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andybev1
13-02-2018, 12:07 AM
I should think so.

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2018/02/12/hearts-owner-confirms-plans-to-lay-new-pitch-with-1m-hybrid-the-preferred-choice/

Hearts owner Ann Budge has confirmed that the club will lay a new pitch this summer – with a £1 million hybrid surface the preferred choice.

The existing turf was only put down a year ago at a six-figure cost but is already showing extensive signs of wear and tear, and any sustained period of rainfall makes underfoot conditions difficult for the players.

This was evident during the recent Premiership victory over St Johnstone, with manager Craig Levein saying afterwards: “When it’s really wet, it’s really bad it was really poor on Saturday, the players were slipping all over the place.”


Despite costs for the new main stand rising to £15 million, the club are keen to install a hybrid surface, which uses natural grass intertwined with artificial turf fibres.

Budge said: “As you will remember, a new surface was laid down this time last year, however, that was only ever intended to be a temporary solution.

“I am pleased, therefore, to announce that plans to relay the pitch in the summer have been approved by the board of directors.

“This will allow us to completely rip up the turf and the soil beneath it, something that hasn’t been done in nearly 20 years.

“This will represent another major financial commitment by the club but we believe it to be an essential investment that will benefit the team for years to come.”
The Scotland rugby team already benefit from using a hybrid surface at neighbouring Murrayfield stadium, which Hearts used for four games earlier this season while Tynecastle was being redeveloped.

The SRU paid an estimated £1.25 million to lay the pitch in 2014.

English football sides Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool all use a similar surface

Stuart93
13-02-2018, 12:15 AM
I should think so.

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2018/02/12/hearts-owner-confirms-plans-to-lay-new-pitch-with-1m-hybrid-the-preferred-choice/

Hearts owner Ann Budge has confirmed that the club will lay a new pitch this summer – with a £1 million hybrid surface the preferred choice.

The existing turf was only put down a year ago at a six-figure cost but is already showing extensive signs of wear and tear, and any sustained period of rainfall makes underfoot conditions difficult for the players.

This was evident during the recent Premiership victory over St Johnstone, with manager Craig Levein saying afterwards: “When it’s really wet, it’s really bad it was really poor on Saturday, the players were slipping all over the place.”


Despite costs for the new main stand rising to £15 million, the club are keen to install a hybrid surface, which uses natural grass intertwined with artificial turf fibres.

Budge said: “As you will remember, a new surface was laid down this time last year, however, that was only ever intended to be a temporary solution.

“I am pleased, therefore, to announce that plans to relay the pitch in the summer have been approved by the board of directors.

“This will allow us to completely rip up the turf and the soil beneath it, something that hasn’t been done in nearly 20 years.

“This will represent another major financial commitment by the club but we believe it to be an essential investment that will benefit the team for years to come.”
The Scotland rugby team already benefit from using a hybrid surface at neighbouring Murrayfield stadium, which Hearts used for four games earlier this season while Tynecastle was being redeveloped.

The SRU paid an estimated £1.25 million to lay the pitch in 2014.

English football sides Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool all use a similar surface

Yet some people still think they're skint...

andybev1
13-02-2018, 12:30 AM
Yet some people still think they're skint...

yep, makes you wonder.

Michael
13-02-2018, 12:34 AM
Does anyone know what surface we have? It says on Wikipedia we have a hybrid pitch, but I'm not sure if that's accurate.

The_Horde
13-02-2018, 01:16 AM
Oh goody. We might actually get to play them at football there next season.

The_Horde
13-02-2018, 01:17 AM
Does anyone know what surface we have? It says on Wikipedia we have a hybrid pitch, but I'm not sure if that's accurate.

It is.

NAE NOOKIE
13-02-2018, 03:12 AM
It is.

Maybe ... but surely not to the quality of Arsenal or Man Utd, which is what the Yams appear to be proposing .... If Hibs had spent north of a million quid on the pitch surely we would have heard about it?

jijihibby
13-02-2018, 04:08 AM
Who cares the reasoning or amount of money spent? It can only be an improvement - the furrows and lumps on the existing farmland hampered Hibs and other teams who have gone there and want to play a game of football - not hoofball. For Hibs it is great news. 6-4-0 will no doubt be claiming it's the ''natural order''.

SirDavidsNapper
13-02-2018, 06:19 AM
I should think so.

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2018/02/12/hearts-owner-confirms-plans-to-lay-new-pitch-with-1m-hybrid-the-preferred-choice/

Hearts owner Ann Budge has confirmed that the club will lay a new pitch this summer – with a £1 million hybrid surface the preferred choice.

The existing turf was only put down a year ago at a six-figure cost but is already showing extensive signs of wear and tear, and any sustained period of rainfall makes underfoot conditions difficult for the players.

This was evident during the recent Premiership victory over St Johnstone, with manager Craig Levein saying afterwards: “When it’s really wet, it’s really bad it was really poor on Saturday, the players were slipping all over the place.”


Despite costs for the new main stand rising to £15 million, the club are keen to install a hybrid surface, which uses natural grass intertwined with artificial turf fibres.

Budge said: “As you will remember, a new surface was laid down this time last year, however, that was only ever intended to be a temporary solution.

“I am pleased, therefore, to announce that plans to relay the pitch in the summer have been approved by the board of directors.

“This will allow us to completely rip up the turf and the soil beneath it, something that hasn’t been done in nearly 20 years.

“This will represent another major financial commitment by the club but we believe it to be an essential investment that will benefit the team for years to come.”
The Scotland rugby team already benefit from using a hybrid surface at neighbouring Murrayfield stadium, which Hearts used for four games earlier this season while Tynecastle was being redeveloped.

The SRU paid an estimated £1.25 million to lay the pitch in 2014.

English football sides Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool all use a similar surface

A new pitch again? I thought they'd imported the best grass the world has ever seen from Germany for 300k last season? A bigger waste of money than Steven Naismith.

Greenworld
13-02-2018, 07:36 AM
Maybe ... but surely not to the quality of Arsenal or Man Utd, which is what the Yams appear to be proposing .... If Hibs had spent north of a million quid on the pitch surely we would have heard about it?How do you think our pitch looks in comparison.
To be it's the best I've seen in years

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Not In The Know
13-02-2018, 07:41 AM
Queen Anne and the believers are just so amazing. I hear spurs have been in touch tapping into the jumbos comprehensive knowledge on how to maintain the 30th best footballing surface in Edinburgh

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs-tv/features/stadium-stories---sliding-pitch-update/

try this one.

andybev1
13-02-2018, 07:57 AM
Queen Anne and the believers are just so amazing. I hear spurs have been in touch tapping into the jumbos comprehensive knowledge on how to maintain the 30th best footballing surface in Edinburgh.

Check this out. Mind boggling.

http://m.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs-tv/features/stadium-stories---sliding-pitch-update/

I cannot see any article on that link?

SirDavidsNapper
13-02-2018, 07:57 AM
Not sure that pitch will fit in with Hearts traditional footballing philosophies.........HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!

Spike Mandela
13-02-2018, 08:11 AM
Yet some people still think they're skint...

Yeah, they’ve found the football ‘magic money tree’.

Fan ownership kicked further into the long grass, mystery benefactors exhausted and fans paying large sums over and above their season ticket money for a bang average mid table club.

What could possibly go wrong?

Bostonhibby
13-02-2018, 08:14 AM
This is exactly it, whatever the good doctor chooses to do next by way of running costs and maintenance just moves the dream further away.

Wait until they realise they have to turf the clouds as well to accommodate their "style" of play.

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GreenCastle
13-02-2018, 08:34 AM
Celtic relaid thier pitch with the more expensive hybrid but it’s really not great.

The yams issue will be lack of light and even though they use some fancy lights to help it grow they aren’t cheap to buy or use.

I hope they do spend the money on a decent pitch as fed up playing them on a terrible surface which suits Leveins direct hoofball. It’s like watching a different sport at the PBS.

Golden Bear
13-02-2018, 08:37 AM
Does anyone know what surface we have? It says on Wikipedia we have a hybrid pitch, but I'm not sure if that's accurate.

ER is surely a grass only pitch?

PeeKay
13-02-2018, 08:38 AM
No doubt they will defray the costs by selling the turf that they beat us on to their delusional supporters.

Clerie Green
13-02-2018, 08:39 AM
I always thought that ****** was supposed to be good for the grass !

:flag: :nlgwa:flag:

GreenCastle
13-02-2018, 08:50 AM
No doubt they will defray the costs by selling the turf that they beat us on to their delusional supporters.

The goal line that Oli Shaw scored on ?

WhileTheChief..
13-02-2018, 08:52 AM
About time they sorted it. We should see how they get on and consider doing similar in future if it makes a big difference.

Why is their fan ownership thing mentioned here so often?

Hearts fans couldn’t care less about when FoH funds are used to pay back Budge. They’re happy for the funds to be used to pay for the stand, bring in Naismith or for the new pitch.

MurrayfieldHibs
13-02-2018, 08:58 AM
FOH are paying for the new pitch.

hibbyfraelibby
13-02-2018, 09:18 AM
I take it they will be lifting the tatties first to sell at the Farmer's Market to help pay for this?

JimBHibees
13-02-2018, 09:23 AM
There is no way on this earth that the pitch they relaid last season was meant to be a temporary solution. Sportsound gave them a platform in the build up to last seasons cup derby telling all how making it was.

WhileTheChief..
13-02-2018, 09:30 AM
It was.

There was chat of them doing a hybrid last year but they didn’t have the time so went with a temporary measure.

Why we we trying to find fault here? We’ve been slagging their pitch for ages and they’re finally doing something about it!

Smartie
13-02-2018, 09:32 AM
"In another exclusive first for Scottish football, establishment club Hearts hope to install a "hybrid" style of pitch. This won't be the type of hybrid seen at clubs like Manchester United - Hearts' hybrid will combine a football pitch with a traditional tattie field. The Gorgie club aim to be able to provide the quality of surface preferred by hoofball boss Craig Levein whilst simultaneously attempting to satisfy their punters' increasingly insatiable demand for chips.

Levein commented from his special Tynecastle toilet "plop, plop, gurgle, fart, gurgle, skoosh - blood doesn't show on a Maris piper."

Ozyhibby
13-02-2018, 09:33 AM
ER is surely a grass only pitch?

It is. The reason it is in such good condition is that we have a small lighting rig now. There is barely any wear even where the goalies stand.
A hybrid surface would only really be worthwhile if we were going to be using it more.


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JimBHibees
13-02-2018, 09:37 AM
It was.

There was chat of them doing a hybrid last year but they didn’t have the time so went with a temporary measure.

Why we we trying to find fault here? We’ve been slagging their pitch for ages and they’re finally doing something about it!

Ok fair does if right. Got the impression listening to the radio that night that they were shipping over the eight wonder of the world on pallets from Germany rather than laying a temporary pitch to be replaced not long after.

Golden Bear
13-02-2018, 09:40 AM
It is. The reason it is in such good condition is that we have a small lighting rig now. There is barely any wear even where the goalies stand.
A hybrid surface would only really be worthwhile if we were going to be using it more.


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I agree. Different game but the pitches at Murrayfield and Scotstoun (home of Glasgow Warriors) look outstanding. I spoke to one of the Warriors players and he said they didn't have any real injury problems which were caused by the surface. The quality of these hybrid pitches has improved significantly in recent years.

In theory it would also allow the Development squad to play their games at ER without any concerns about wear and tear of the pitch.

EskbankHibby
13-02-2018, 09:41 AM
There is no way on this earth that the pitch they relaid last season was meant to be a temporary solution. Sportsound gave them a platform in the build up to last seasons cup derby telling all how making it was.

It was.

They laid a temporary surface (only 40mm apparently) when Cathro was there with the premise that it was the surface that was stopping the Gorgie Galacticos performing. They were 'meant' to then completely resurface at the time of the build of the new stand as they had plenty of time between the end of the season and the opening of the new stand in September (:faf:).

I'm sure you know how that particular planning operation ran. For what it's worth i think it's a good thing, their pitch is a disgrace and anything that introduces further cost burden to our pink chums is fine by me.:aok:

greenlex
13-02-2018, 09:44 AM
Ok fair does if right. Got the impression listening to the radio that night that they were shipping over the eight wonder of the world on pallets from Germany rather than laying a temporary pitch to be replaced not long after.

He’s nit right. The pitch was laid last year and was supposed to be the digs danglies. Right down to his it was transported as turf from the continent. Never in a million years was it meant as a temporary measure.

Carheenlea
13-02-2018, 09:53 AM
A hybrid pitch migh be their "preferred option", but the reality will more likely be a standard grass park being repaid. No danger will they spend £1M on a pitch.

WhileTheChief..
13-02-2018, 10:00 AM
From Feb 2017...

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/615958/hearts-set-to-shell-out-1-2million-on-new-surface-to-end-tynecastle-woes/

£200k last year to relay the pitch with plans to spend £1m on a hybrid 18 months later.

greenlex
13-02-2018, 10:05 AM
From Feb 2017...

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/615958/hearts-set-to-shell-out-1-2million-on-new-surface-to-end-tynecastle-woes/

£200k last year to relay the pitch with plans to spend £1m on a hybrid 18 months later.
Well at the time on Sportsound they were salivating and boasting about the pitch they were putting down. If the suns report is acurate it’s no surprised at the lengths they go to talk up anything they do. All wind and pish IMO. Somewhere in the ordinary spectrum will be the truth about both solutions. Trumpets

SirDavidsNapper
13-02-2018, 10:07 AM
There is no way on this earth that the pitch they relaid last season was meant to be a temporary solution. Sportsound gave them a platform in the build up to last seasons cup derby telling all how making it was.

Exactly. Spent a fortune, boasted about it, didn't work and now it was only temporary :confused:

sauzee=legend
13-02-2018, 10:07 AM
Hybrid pitch, I’m sure hibs do have one.
90% of the pitch is real grass, the remaining 10% is plastic which is down in the soil gripping the roots of the grass together to keep it tighter and stronger, less likely to be damaged.
A good Hybrid pitch will last roughly 8/10years.
However cheaper options available and might mean replacing before the 8/10years.

hibsforeurope
13-02-2018, 10:14 AM
I'm not sure how much a new pitch will improve things at the PBS, unless they upgrade the drainage the new pitch will still be soft and turn into a tattie field.

lapsedhibee
13-02-2018, 10:19 AM
I'm not sure how much a new pitch will improve things at the PBS, unless they upgrade the drainage the new pitch will still be soft and turn into a tattie field.

They won't want to significantly upgrade the drainage as that would restrict their options in the event of their having a player or two injured in the run-up to a derby.

Hibbyradge
13-02-2018, 10:39 AM
A new pitch again? I thought they'd imported the best grass the world has ever seen from Germany for 300k last season? A bigger waste of money than Steven Naismith.

No. They said at the time that they would be laying a new hybrid pitch in 2018.

Hibbyradge
13-02-2018, 10:42 AM
Exactly. Spent a fortune, boasted about it, didn't work and now it was only temporary :confused:

Not true, I'm afraid.

From Feb 2017...

"Groundstaff started to rip up existing turf today and will lay a new pitch that will provide a stopgap until 2018 when the club plan to roll out a hybrid surface that could cost up to £1million."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-begin-work-new-pitch-9861961

WhileTheChief..
13-02-2018, 10:44 AM
^^^ Pesky facts!!

The pitch at ER is 100% grass. We’re now trying to say it’s hybrid in order to ‘keep up’ with them.

This is like when folk were claiming that we use a better standard of breeze block. Mental!!

Hibbyradge
13-02-2018, 10:54 AM
^^^ Pesky facts!!

The pitch at ER is 100% grass. We’re now trying to say it’s hybrid in order to ‘keep up’ with them.

This is like when folk were claiming that we use a better standard of breeze block. Mental!!

Our pitch is made from the petals of thousands of delicate flowers, and puppy fur collected by Peruvian virgins.

FACT.

greenlex
13-02-2018, 10:55 AM
Our pitch is made from the petals of thousands of delicate flowers, and puppy fur collected by Peruvian virgins.

FACT.

You have spelt pussy incorrectly.

lapsedhibee
13-02-2018, 10:56 AM
^^^ Pesky facts!!

The pitch at ER is 100% grass. We’re now trying to say it’s hybrid in order to ‘keep up’ with them.

This is like when folk were claiming that we use a better standard of breeze block. Mental!!

Did that happen? I only remember yams bringing up that ER is made of breeze block as a comparison with their new stadium which was going to be all marble, except for the bits that weren't.

Bostonhibby
13-02-2018, 11:00 AM
Did that happen? I only remember yams bringing up that ER is made of breeze block as a comparison with their new stadium which was going to be all marble, except for the bits that weren't.

[emoji106]That's what happened on the megastand thread. Shortly after the yam criticism someone was able to post images of their rather extensive use of breeze blocks.

Breeze blocks are of course an entirely appropriate material for this sort of project but they started it![emoji14]

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Lago
13-02-2018, 12:31 PM
I should think so.

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2018/02/12/hearts-owner-confirms-plans-to-lay-new-pitch-with-1m-hybrid-the-preferred-choice/

Hearts owner Ann Budge has confirmed that the club will lay a new pitch this summer – with a £1 million hybrid surface the preferred choice.

The existing turf was only put down a year ago at a six-figure cost but is already showing extensive signs of wear and tear, and any sustained period of rainfall makes underfoot conditions difficult for the players.

This was evident during the recent Premiership victory over St Johnstone, with manager Craig Levein saying afterwards: “When it’s really wet, it’s really bad it was really poor on Saturday, the players were slipping all over the place.”


Despite costs for the new main stand rising to £15 million, the club are keen to install a hybrid surface, which uses natural grass intertwined with artificial turf fibres.

Budge said: “As you will remember, a new surface was laid down this time last year, however, that was only ever intended to be a temporary solution.

“I am pleased, therefore, to announce that plans to relay the pitch in the summer have been approved by the board of directors.

“This will allow us to completely rip up the turf and the soil beneath it, something that hasn’t been done in nearly 20 years.

“This will represent another major financial commitment by the club but we believe it to be an essential investment that will benefit the team for years to come.”
The Scotland rugby team already benefit from using a hybrid surface at neighbouring Murrayfield stadium, which Hearts used for four games earlier this season while Tynecastle was being redeveloped.

The SRU paid an estimated £1.25 million to lay the pitch in 2014.

English football sides Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool all use a similar surface
Where are they getting the money???

SirDavidsNapper
13-02-2018, 12:40 PM
Where are they getting the money???

Hearts don't need money. They just rob other peoples.

SirDavidsNapper
13-02-2018, 12:41 PM
Not true, I'm afraid.

From Feb 2017...

"Groundstaff started to rip up existing turf today and will lay a new pitch that will provide a stopgap until 2018 when the club plan to roll out a hybrid surface that could cost up to £1million."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-begin-work-new-pitch-9861961

Fair enough. Didn't realise that. Only remember the hype around their imported grass.

lucky
13-02-2018, 01:12 PM
Delighted that they are investing in a decent pitch. It can only help Scottish football when all the bigger sides actually have surface fit for purpose. Again 8000 fans paying in a month is making a huge difference to them.

overdrive
13-02-2018, 03:33 PM
I'm pretty sure someone that posts on here works for the company that makes the hybrid pitches. I think he said before that we don't have one.

I also think it is the only hybrid on the market as it is still patented to the company.

Andy JR
13-02-2018, 03:39 PM
Fairly sure its hybrid at ER, Wikipedia claims so.

hibbyfraelibby
13-02-2018, 05:49 PM
We have a hybrid pitch at ER and have had for a couple of years...along with a head groundsmanin Colin who knows how to look after a playing surface properly.

The Hybrid at Tattiecastle just means a mix of 3 different grasses...and Lee Wallace aint one of them

jacomo
13-02-2018, 06:16 PM
A hybrid pitch migh be their "preferred option", but the reality will more likely be a standard grass park being repaid. No danger will they spend £1M on a pitch.


:agree:

This is Hearts we’re talking about. They always try to do things on the cheap (even though it sometimes ends up costing a lot more money).

heretoday
13-02-2018, 09:59 PM
Where are they getting the money???

Out of the fans' pockets.

GreenCastle
13-02-2018, 10:02 PM
It’s cheaper to lay it on the smallest pitch in Scotland - basically like recarpeting a 5s pitch at world of football.

Keep spending the money yams - Budge will want it back soon!

007
13-02-2018, 10:31 PM
It was.

There was chat of them doing a hybrid last year but they didn’t have the time so went with a temporary measure.

Why we we trying to find fault here? We’ve been slagging their pitch for ages and they’re finally doing something about it!


Yes but we like slagging them :agree: and its not as if they never slag us. They finally did something about their main stand and we slagged that loads. Once they fix their pitch we'll find something else, like their training facilities that they don't own but they like to lead everyone to believe they do.

Albanian Hibs
13-02-2018, 10:39 PM
Always try and associate themselves with big teams 😂

"English football sides Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool all use a similar surface"