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ekhibee
03-02-2018, 02:55 PM
Big build up, totally outplayed and out thought tactically by Wales, plenty of individual mistakes, BBC Rugby commentators and analysts bigging up certain Scottish players over the last few weeks, they've all been poor. The only one that has an excuse is Laidlaw who's been out for a while, but Townsend looks as if he's been completely out thought by the Welsh coach. Scotland are better than this, but nowhere near as good as some people seem to think, on this performance anyway.

Mr Grieves
03-02-2018, 03:02 PM
Mistake after mistake, a shambolic performance.

Golden Bear
03-02-2018, 03:23 PM
Very very poor. Rabbits caught in the headlights once again.

McD
03-02-2018, 04:15 PM
Gave the game away, the Welsh weren’t anything special, we were shambolic.

some hard questions needing asked and answered by the coaching staff and the players.

HibernianJK
03-02-2018, 04:29 PM
The coaching staff must take their share of the blame but some of the errors on the field committed by the players were embarrassing and something that no rugby player at any level should make. Basic handling errors. Complete rethink needed needed before next week.

Fritz
03-02-2018, 05:19 PM
Intercept tries happen but no excuse for the way we just seemed to chuck it after that. Completely lost the plot. So poor. Watson just about got pass marks but he's the only one.

cabbageandribs1875
03-02-2018, 06:18 PM
won't even bother watching a recording of the game, unfortunately scotland are always capable of results like todays, still, £40 on a welsh win has softened the blow, read somewhere that since 2000 scotland have won away from home just 6 times...with 4 of they wins coming in italy, the french mucked up against ireland by missing a penalty with just a few mins left which would have meant the irish needing a try to win, but i was positive if ireland just controlled play from then on they were perfectly capable of winning with a drop goal...and they duly obliged with a great effort by sexton, they've set themselves up for a last day winner takes all at twickenham as i'm sure they will win all their next 3 games all at home v italy/wales/scotland, scotland(imo) will now be involved in the basement battle with italy to avoid that wooden spoon




p.s. cheeky wee £30 on england to win tomorrow in italy starting at -22 points

Golden Bear
03-02-2018, 08:28 PM
won't even bother watching a recording of the game, unfortunately scotland are always capable of results like todays, still, £40 on a welsh win has softened the blow, read somewhere that since 2000 scotland have won away from home just 6 times...with 4 of they wins coming in italy, the french mucked up against ireland by missing a penalty with just a few mins left which would have meant the irish needing a try to win, but i was positive if ireland just controlled play from then on they were perfectly capable of winning with a drop goal...and they duly obliged with a great effort by sexton, they've set themselves up for a last day winner takes all at twickenham as i'm sure they will win all their next 3 games all at home v italy/wales/scotland, scotland(imo) will now be involved in the basement battle with italy to avoid that wooden spoon




p.s. cheeky wee £30 on england to win tomorrow in italy starting at -22 points

Brave bet - good luck !

nellio
04-02-2018, 01:47 PM
Felt sorry for Scotland fans. Total underperformance.

Being Welsh I was well happy with a bonus point win but I'm also a big fan of Scotland rugby and felt disappointed. On to France next Sunday. Ill be looking for a big reaction.

heretoday
04-02-2018, 08:15 PM
It's between us and Italy for the wooden spoon. Again.

BroxburnHibee
04-02-2018, 08:36 PM
Gatland didn't pick Scots for the Lions because he doesn't feel they travel well.

Looks like he's right.

weecounty hibby
05-02-2018, 07:42 PM
First time on here after having been in Wales for the match. Travelled down on Thursday and spent roughly £700 and once again had a great weekend but ruined completely by the result. I feel we made a huge mistake getting rid of Cotter as coach. One of the top 4/5 coaches in the world to be replace by someone who might one day possibly maybe a very good coach. Too many wrong selections and too many just shat it basically in the big game atmosphere. I was there when we lost 50-3 and Saturday was a worse performance!!

Pretty Boy
11-02-2018, 03:40 PM
I'm not sure if this has been a game for the purist as my knowledge of rugby is pretty much zero but it's been very entertaining in the way the scoring has gone.

cabbageandribs1875
11-02-2018, 03:58 PM
master class from townsend by finally taking finn russell off after 65 minutes, he really should have been taken off 25 minutes earlier at HT as he was absolutely abysmal today, tackling like a wee girl, kicking possession away constantly and the worst crime off all...failing to find touch 2 or 3 times:bitchy: but a great win in the end :saltireflag

weecounty hibby
11-02-2018, 04:08 PM
Brilliant result. Some big performances in the forwards. Laidlaw outstanding. Jones back playing in his right position played well. Horne had a strong game. Only player who didn't have a good game was Russell. Stop believing the hype and get back to basics Finn. Kicking was awful as well. Need to up the performance levels by 20% to beat England

weecounty hibby
11-02-2018, 04:42 PM
although it was a toss of the coin for me with which rugby manager i disliked more between Gattland and that ignorant little to$$er of a man eddie jones....jones wins it hands down, arrogant little gnome, hope he's proud of himself trying to embarrass the female interviewing him yesterday

Jones is a horrible man. A good friend of mine knows him well through working for the SRU for years and said he is a complete ****er that no one can stand. All this bull**** just now about how jones is a wind up merchant and is alright is only because he is England coach. If he was Scotland coach and said some of that crap he would get slaughtered. Can't stand Gatland either mind

Golden Bear
11-02-2018, 04:44 PM
Finn Russell's form has went downhill since he signed his mega bucks contract with Racing 92. They must be a worried Club right now!

The Pointer
11-02-2018, 07:11 PM
Jones is a horrible man. A good friend of mine knows him well through working for the SRU for years and said he is a complete ****er that no one can stand. All this bull**** just now about how jones is a wind up merchant and is alright is only because he is England coach. If he was Scotland coach and said some of that crap he would get slaughtered. Can't stand Gatland either mind

If his interview post match yesterday is anything to go by, he is certainly an arrogant git. The TMO fckd up big style with that decision and he wouldn't answer the question he was asked. I appreciate he was asked a 'what if' question but he just bullshttd the response.

Anyway, today's response by Scotland to last week was outstanding, despite Russell's below par performance and the ring loosening first ten minutes. I thought Gilchrist had possibly his best game for Scotland while Watson, Hoggy, Dents, Gray, Berghan and Laidlaw were tremendous. That was pretty physical at times.

And do you know what? Lenny was at the game!

Sergio sledge
11-02-2018, 07:50 PM
Finn Russell is by far the best option we have at stand off. He's not been very good the first two games of the six nations but there's no way we can drop him. (Perhaps that's part of the problem?) He reminds me of Townsend in his younger days, a bit of a mercurial talent, equally as capable of throwing the game away with terrible decisions as he is of a moment of magic to win us a huge game. I was always gutted when Townsend was dropped for the likes of Duncan Hodge, it took some of the excitement of the game, so I hope they stick with Russell.

Stonewall
11-02-2018, 09:08 PM
If his interview post match yesterday is anything to go by, he is certainly an arrogant git. The TMO fckd up big style with that decision and he wouldn't answer the question he was asked. I appreciate he was asked a 'what if' question but he just bullshttd the response.

Anyway, today's response by Scotland to last week was outstanding, despite Russell's below par performance and the ring loosening first ten minutes. I thought Gilchrist had possibly his best game for Scotland while Watson, Hoggy, Dents, Gray, Berghan and Laidlaw were tremendous. That was pretty physical at times.

And do you know what? Lenny was at the game!

So was McGinn. Seeing him was the highlight of my son's day although the game ran it a close second.

cabbageandribs1875
11-02-2018, 09:26 PM
Jones is a horrible man. A good friend of mine knows him well through working for the SRU for years and said he is a complete ****er that no one can stand. All this bull**** just now about how jones is a wind up merchant and is alright is only because he is England coach. If he was Scotland coach and said some of that crap he would get slaughtered. Can't stand Gatland either mind


i can certainly believe that :agree: horrible little scroat of a man, Gatlands remarks about the scottish team leading up to cardiff were pathetic as well, although the southern hemisphere teams play with some class... jones and Gatland have none whatsoever, classless/graceless fuds the two of them

hibsbollah
11-02-2018, 10:17 PM
i can certainly believe that :agree: horrible little scroat of a man, Gatlands remarks about the scottish team leading up to cardiff were pathetic as well, although the southern hemisphere teams play with some class... jones and Gatland have none whatsoever, classless/graceless fuds the two of them

Anybody else think that if football managers did the same kind of prematch sledging on a daily basis that rugby coaches seem to do these days, we'd never hear the end of it?

overdrive
12-02-2018, 12:18 PM
I see the plane carrying the French team home has been grounded and French players removed for questioning by the police. Allegedly involved in a mass brawl on George Street.

Wembley67
12-02-2018, 12:21 PM
I see the plane carrying the French team home has been grounded and French players removed for questioning by the police. Allegedly involved in a mass brawl on George Street.

Who the heck in their right mind would take on the French rugby team at fisticuffs??

overdrive
12-02-2018, 12:32 PM
Who the heck in their right mind would take on the French rugby team at fisticuffs??

Sky News are now saying it is to do with a sexual assault.

Edit: Police Scotland are now saying they have concluded that no crime has been committed.

heretoday
12-02-2018, 04:27 PM
Who the heck in their right mind would take on the French rugby team at fisticuffs??

George Best?

McD
12-02-2018, 07:27 PM
Finn Russell is by far the best option we have at stand off. He's not been very good the first two games of the six nations but there's no way we can drop him. (Perhaps that's part of the problem?) He reminds me of Townsend in his younger days, a bit of a mercurial talent, equally as capable of throwing the game away with terrible decisions as he is of a moment of magic to win us a huge game. I was always gutted when Townsend was dropped for the likes of Duncan Hodge, it took some of the excitement of the game, so I hope they stick with Russell.


:top marks Agree with you on all counts my friend

weecounty hibby
23-02-2018, 09:02 PM
Scotland U 20s beat England tonight. An unbelievable result considering the gulf in resources both in personnel and finances. Well done the young team, fingers crossed for tomorrow for the big team

IGRIGI
24-02-2018, 10:05 AM
Eddie Jones is Rugby's version of Levein (with success though), hope we can wipe that smirk off of his face.

Pretty Boy
24-02-2018, 03:39 PM
Fighting in the tunnel before the game apparently. Love it.

Dinkydoo
24-02-2018, 03:45 PM
Its weird that the commentators are celebrating the scuffle in the tunnel before the match. If that was football we'd have an investigation and players banned before the game had begun.

The difference in attitude is interesting, but probably due to how physical the game is.

Ice hockey is the same. Hook a player, that's you out for a few minutes to think about what you've done before coming back on :faf:

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Pretty Boy
24-02-2018, 04:05 PM
Is there a facepalm big enough for the guy in the crowd with the half and half face paint?

heretoday
24-02-2018, 04:24 PM
Its weird that the commentators are celebrating the scuffle in the tunnel before the match. If that was football we'd have an investigation and players banned before the game had begun.

The difference in attitude is interesting, but probably due to how physical the game is.

Ice hockey is the same. Hook a player, that's you out for a few minutes to think about what you've done before coming back on :faf:

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It's mostly handbags. Big treelike chaps grasping each other at arms length. Nothing to see here.
Everyone goes for a few beers after.

Pretty Boy
24-02-2018, 04:32 PM
Ripping them a new one so far. Can't wait to see Guscotts puss tripping him.

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 04:32 PM
superb try from huw jones 22-6 HT hope we can keep it up in the 2nd

Golden Bear
24-02-2018, 04:35 PM
Well well well. Keep it going lads !

Dinkydoo
24-02-2018, 04:38 PM
I enjoyed watching the last 6 nations hand-egg and decided to give it another bash this year. From the second half against France to now we've played some great stuff.


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hibsbollah
24-02-2018, 04:47 PM
Fin Russell says :giruy: to his critics in a spectacular way.

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 04:51 PM
that was rather easy, still it wouldn't be scotland if we didn't shoot ourselves in the foot now and then

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 04:56 PM
fs hogg :grr:

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 04:59 PM
aw man if horne had passed that ball we were in, criminal

Pretty Boy
24-02-2018, 05:03 PM
Let off there albeit an excellent bit of refereeing.

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:12 PM
russell kicking away possession, needlessly



followed by a forward pass from him :rolleyes:

IGRIGI
24-02-2018, 05:15 PM
For some reason I'm ten times more nervous with rugby, I've had to start tanning in a bottle of wine to get through this.

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:17 PM
For some reason I'm ten times more nervous with rugby, I've had to start tanning in a bottle of wine to get through this.




excuses excuses

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:18 PM
could really do with getting more points on the board

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:19 PM
usual english thuggery at rugby....no change there


yellow card well done referee

Pretty Boy
24-02-2018, 05:20 PM
Thought that was a red but think him missing the face has saved him. Good decision again.

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:21 PM
good kick 25-13 need to clear the decks from the re-start

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:25 PM
get another 3 points on the board and i'l be confident :)

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:26 PM
unfortunately another poor line out

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:28 PM
wee scroat eddie jones starting to worry i hope

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:36 PM
great turnover :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:37 PM
and yet another total ****up at our own line-out...ffs

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:38 PM
get in ya dancer yi :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:





p.s. i absolutely detest eddie jones...get it up yi

IGRIGI
24-02-2018, 05:40 PM
Get.that.wrapped.360.degrees.right.*****.roooooooo ooooooooond ye jones!!!!!

Golden Bear
24-02-2018, 05:42 PM
Unbeleeeeeeevable!

cabbageandribs1875
24-02-2018, 05:44 PM
nice round of boo's for poison dwarf jones

hfc rd
24-02-2018, 05:45 PM
Well done Scotland!! What an atmosphere at Murrayfield as well! Absolutely proud of all the lads!

We did a lot of talking exchanging jibes with them off the pitch and we needed to ensure we backed that up on the pitch and we did it in style!

GIRFUY Eddie Jones!

Lancs Harp
27-02-2018, 08:55 PM
Sorry thought this was going to be a curling tread. :wink::greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
09-03-2018, 09:24 PM
scotland U20's unlucky going down 30-25 in oirland, wales losing at home to the italians 7-18

cabbageandribs1875
10-03-2018, 03:19 PM
outclassed in ireland, penalty after penalty gifted away, natural order definitely restored

Danderhall Hibs
10-03-2018, 09:59 PM
outclassed in ireland, penalty after penalty gifted away, natural order definitely restored

Threw too many chances away.

Really difficult to win away from home in the 6N as shown in the 2nd match.

cabbageandribs1875
11-03-2018, 02:55 PM
Threw too many chances away.

Really difficult to win away from home in the 6N as shown in the 2nd match.



doubly hard when we gift teams 7 points and can't make basic throws, still, at least our women won :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
15-03-2018, 03:38 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43409476



England head coach Eddie Jones has "apologised unreservedly" for offensive comments he made about Wales and Ireland.

At a sponsors' talk in July 2017, the Australian described Wales as a "**** little place" and spoke about how disappointed he was by a recent defeat by the "****my Irish".


i really really REALLY despise this little cretin, he's going to lose all his teeth some day

IGRIGI
17-03-2018, 12:35 PM
Getting tanned senseless currently by Italy.

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 12:44 PM
it was men against boys, now it's men against Girls

Jim44
17-03-2018, 12:45 PM
Getting tanned senseless currently by Italy.

They’re a real Jeckyll and Hyde outfit. They can be so good at times but more often than not they are mince with no backbone, skill or character.

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 01:10 PM
mon the Girls :flag:

IGRIGI
17-03-2018, 01:11 PM
Somehow managed to drag ourselves in front, shown some character having looked well beat at one point.

Jim44
17-03-2018, 01:20 PM
If it wasn’t for Laidlaw, we would be in a sorry state. Unconvincing win.

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 01:20 PM
we truly are a great team :greengrin
price nearly ****s it up

all credit goes to the italians

hibsbollah
17-03-2018, 01:21 PM
I kind of wanted Italy to win this. Feel sorry for their horrible run of defeats and there's nothing in it for us anyway.

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 01:38 PM
I kind of wanted Italy to win this. Feel sorry for their horrible run of defeats and there's nothing in it for us anyway.


we could end up 3rd if other results go our way, nothing in it for us ?


Grand Slam: £5.5m
1st: £4.5m
2nd: £3.3m
3rd: £2.3m
4th: £1.8m
5th: £1.3m
6th: £800,000

IGRIGI
17-03-2018, 01:43 PM
Italy done well today but I think they need to bring in some sort of play off, teams like Georgia or Romania would give Italy a run for their money in a play off.

Golden Bear
17-03-2018, 01:43 PM
Average performance but a good win. Some of the derogatory comments on Facebook are disgraceful, we weren't really as bad as that.

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 01:50 PM
Italy done well today but I think they need to bring in some sort of play off, teams like Georgia or Romania would give Italy a run for their money in a play off.


i'm all for giving entry to Georgia thus increasing it to 7 nations, i don't think it would be the right thing to do for international rugby by downgrading italy, imo of course

hibsbollah
17-03-2018, 02:38 PM
we could end up 3rd if other results go our way, nothing in it for us ?


Grand Slam: £5.5m
1st: £4.5m
2nd: £3.3m
3rd: £2.3m
4th: £1.8m
5th: £1.3m
6th: £800,000

I hadn't realised that, fair enough.

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 02:41 PM
eddie jones decision to lengthen the in goal area backfires with a 3rd irish try :greengrin poor wee eddie



more than a bit of luck for at least two of those trys though

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 02:43 PM
I hadn't realised that, fair enough.


tiz a lot of money for the SRU hopefully :agree: helluva lot of money even just between 1st and 3rd

hibsbollah
17-03-2018, 02:49 PM
tiz a lot of money for the SRU hopefully :agree: helluva lot of money even just between 1st and 3rd

To be honest I'm not really knowledgeable about rugby, I just use the six nations as an excuse to go in for a bit of'anyone but england' :)

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 02:50 PM
already looking forward to the ireland v all blacks autumn international

Mr White
17-03-2018, 03:10 PM
Paddy's day grand slam at Twickenham? Ah go on then :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
17-03-2018, 05:57 PM
so, the welsh win even though the french dominated, very credible 3rd spot for Scotland, just a pity with our lack of bonus points, the bottom two nations should get relegated to a newly formed north siberian league for the next two decades :greengrin

theonlywayisup
17-03-2018, 06:44 PM
so, the welsh win even though the french dominated, very credible 3rd spot for Scotland, just a pity with our lack of bonus points, the bottom two nations should get relegated to a newly formed north siberian league for the next two decades :greengrin

Who finished in the bottom two?

:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

Jones28
17-03-2018, 09:20 PM
Well, not an awful day

One Day Soon
18-03-2018, 12:13 AM
They’re a real Jeckyll and Hyde outfit. They can be so good at times but more often than not they are mince with no backbone, skill or character.

Oi! We're getting there, late starters at this game compagno.