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blackpoolhibs
30-01-2018, 09:51 PM
Nothing will come to close to 2016 though, not a chance.
for those not even born it will.
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 09:52 PM
If I could have any two out of Stanton, Sauzee and Stokes back playing for us right now it would be a really close call as to whether I picked Stanton or Sauzee first. There's no doubt however that in terms of all round ability, consistency and sheer impact on team and club it would absolutely be those two I would pick every time.
SRHibs
30-01-2018, 09:52 PM
And we will be talking about stokes in 60 years his picture of him running away after the first celebrating will be iconic.
Not disputing that, just the idea that you saying “Stokes is more of a legend” has some basis in fact. It’s entirely opinion based. Every Hibs player on the park on 21/05/16 is a cup winning legend.
Callum_62
30-01-2018, 09:52 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42882013
hibbysam
30-01-2018, 09:52 PM
Well said :greengrin but I still totally disagree with you. P.S. read my post again I said nowt about hating anyone all I said was I can't believe you would support stokes above Hibs each to their own though.
It’s not about supporting him above Hibs. He’s a hero whom I hold in the highest regard. What’s happened in this spell is not going to change that feeling.
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 09:53 PM
Well he did. It’s not a made up quote. It’s on YouTube in an interview somewhere
It is linked to in this thread. Watch it and then come back and admit he was in no way being disrespectful to the club.
blackpoolhibs
30-01-2018, 09:53 PM
If I could have any two out of Stanton, Sauzee and Stokes back playing for us right now it would be a really close call as to whether I picked Stanton or Sauzee first. There's no doubt however that in terms of all round ability, consistency and sheer impact on team and club it would absolutely be those two I would pick every time.
Exactly and Pat must be 70 odd.
Speedway
30-01-2018, 09:54 PM
Stokes departure confirmed.
FranckSuzy
30-01-2018, 09:54 PM
I wasn't born, maybe nostalgia please a part in your method of thinking. I hear the stories but it has no real significance to me. My children my grandchildren will be told the fairytale of stokes double in the Scottish cup final after 114 years before any mention of Stanton or the famous 5 until the next hero comes along.
I wonder how old you actually are since you have picked the username of a player who was with Hibs about 14/15 years ago? Also, I take it you haven't heard much about Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool either then, if the 1970's (when Pat Stanton was at his peak) were before your time? :confused:
McHibby
30-01-2018, 09:55 PM
Not with the Hibees of course
Stanton isn't fit to lace Sir Stokes boots
I really hope you're not being serious. He is universally recognised as one the best players of his generation. Can the same be said about Stokes? Don't get me wrong, Stokes is a talented player and played a huge part in one of the best days in my life. I will never, ever forget a single one of those players. But being a Hibs legend is not quite the same as being amongst the very best players in Scotland for over a decade.
guthrie01
30-01-2018, 09:56 PM
Making up what exactly? You have your opinion then call mine utter nonsense. Forums are hilarious - what makes it nonsense? Because you don't like it or...? Give counter argument might have been nice.
Alright then...
"Stokes was likely given a bumper contract at Hibs in order to return. A return he delayed either to avoid a preseason, or in the hope of another club coming in, or to get more money from Hibs"
You're just speculating without knowing the facts, how do you know he delayed coming back.
So he wanted more money to play for us, wow he must be the first player to negotiate a contract.
"He then proceeds to play mediocre in virtually every game"
Not true, our top goalscorer and the most shots in the league*. But aye that's mediocre right enough :rolleyes:
"Let's be honest Cup Final is his only stand out performance"
Again not true, the Inverness game he scored 2 which in the Scottish cup was an outstanding performance, the Dundee game earlier this season where he came on and saved us 3 points.
Just the ones which came right away to me but I can go back to his time under Yogi where he earned us a £1.2 million move to Celtic if you want...
"rumours of teammates being unhappy with him"
Unless you can back up these rumors then you can't exactly use that in an argument I'm afraid
But carry on bashing one of our Scottish Cup winning legends
madhatter
30-01-2018, 09:57 PM
‘Personal’ 😂 I’m guessing you didn’t bother with the trek on the Wednesday after losing the league cup final to watch a Stokes masterclass single handedly drag us over the line. Stokes was far and away the best player on the pitch in the final, let’s not make up stories to the contrary, he could’ve scored 5 that day easily.
You clearly have issues with the guy, your choice but let’s not make **** up about his time with us.
Name another match. You are listing a few matches. Important matches but few matches nevertheless. I don't have issues with him, I have issues with someone disrespecting the club. Perhaps he hasn't but for Hibs to get to the point of terminating his contract I'd assume his temperament has been really rather poor.
You seem to be ignoring all the poor points of Stokes. I really can't be bothered arguing. You are now making cheap shots about the 'quality' of fan I am with "didn't bother with the trek". Worrying prospect for a fan to target a fellow fan because of a player the club have released...legend or not.
I'll be there tomorrow supporting the players of Hibs, that's all I care about. You have a good night.
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 09:57 PM
I really hope you're not being serious. He is universally recognised as one the best players of his generation. Can the same be said about Stokes? Don't get me wrong, Stokes is a talented player and played a huge part in one of the best days in my life. I will never, ever forget a single one of those players. But being a Hibs legend is not quite the same as being amongst the very best players in Scotland for over a decade.
Think Beckenbauer in a Hibs strip.
DavidDavidGray
30-01-2018, 09:58 PM
It is linked to in this thread. Watch it and then come back and admit he was in no way being disrespectful to the club.
Mate I’ve seen the video. Go back and look at my list and admit in no way did I say he was being disrespectful.
yonder1875
30-01-2018, 10:00 PM
Stokes departure confirmed.
By Hibs?
Unseen work
30-01-2018, 10:01 PM
Anthony Stokes, you’re a legend.
An idiot.
But a legend none the less.
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 10:02 PM
Mate I’ve seen the video. Go back and look at my list and admit in no way did I say he was being disrespectful.
I thought your point was that he was?
hibbysam
30-01-2018, 10:03 PM
Name another match. You are listing a few matches. Important matches but few matches nevertheless. I don't have issues with him, I have issues with someone disrespecting the club. Perhaps he hasn't but for Hibs to get to the point of terminating his contract I'd assume his temperament has been really rather poor.
You seem to be ignoring all the poor points of Stokes. I really can't be bothered arguing. You are now making cheap shots about the 'quality' of fan I am with "didn't bother with the trek". Worrying prospect for a fan to target a fellow fan because of a player the club have released...legend or not.
I'll be there tomorrow supporting the players of Hibs, that's all I care about. You have a good night.
You only asked for one more example as you said the cup final was his ‘only standout match’ - now I quote another and you want another one. Ok then, he came on as a sub against Dundee earlier this season. Instrumental in getting us three points with some utterly astonishing football.
Good stuff, hopefully you take the blindfold off and appreciate some of the wonderful football some of our players may produce.
madhatter
30-01-2018, 10:04 PM
You only asked for one more example as you said the cup final was his ‘only standout match’ - now I quote another and you want another one. Ok then, he came on as a sub against Dundee earlier this season. Instrumental in getting us three points with some utterly astonishing football.
Good stuff, hopefully you take the blindfold off and appreciate some of the wonderful football some of our players may produce.
Have a good night.
The Spaceman
30-01-2018, 10:04 PM
Thank you Anthony Stokes for scoring 2 of the most important, seismic and fortune-changing goals in our clubs history. You will forever be remembered for this and good luck to you wherever you end up.
eastmainsmsh
30-01-2018, 10:05 PM
11 goals not bad for his attitude and conduct shame it has to be like this the master of his own downfall
Sammy7nil
30-01-2018, 10:06 PM
It’s not about supporting him above Hibs. He’s a hero whom I hold in the highest regard. What’s happened in this spell is not going to change that feeling.
I hate repeating myself but so he can do anything to disrespect Hibs that is okay with you? Is there really nothing he could do to change your mind :confused:
pacoluna
30-01-2018, 10:08 PM
I wonder how old you actually are since you have picked the username of a player who was with Hibs about 14/15 years ago? Also, I take it you haven't heard much about Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool either then, if the 1970's (when Pat Stanton was at his peak) were before your time? :confused:
I'm 24 paco Luna's brace against AEK was one of my first memorable nights at Easter road. No just like Stanton I've only heard stories about Dalglish, no real significance to me.
What does “disrespecting Hibs” actually mean? Sounds like oversimplistic drivel.
hibbyfraelibby
30-01-2018, 10:08 PM
Look on the bright side. Big Davie is relieved that he has gig for the rest of the season now🤣
hibbysam
30-01-2018, 10:08 PM
I hate repeating myself but so he can do anything to disrespect Hibs that is okay with you? Is there really nothing he could do to change your mind :confused:
Its done, he’s gone. What purpose does it serve to start hating the guy now? Or being disappointed in him? He gave me the greatest weekend of my life, that tops the lot.
I’m sorry if that doesn’t match what people want to hear but I’d rather look beyond all the hearsay of this season and look at the good he has brought this club. Remember the cup win is what allowed us the opportunity to bring him back to us based on our crowds being up, turnover being up, all as a result of his contribution that day in 2016.
guthrie01
30-01-2018, 10:08 PM
Have a good night.
Hopefully you can wake up tomorrow and appreciate some of the stuff our Stokes has done for the club :wink:
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 10:10 PM
Look on the bright side. Big Davie is relieved that he has gig for the rest of the season now🤣
Needless.
snooky
30-01-2018, 10:12 PM
Think Beckenbauer in a Hibs strip.
Franz will be honoured at such acclaim.
Paddy :not worth
Stokes has had some great performances for Hibs, and played a big part (along with his team mates) in winning the Scottish Cup. I still wouldn’t place him above the famous 5, or Stanton or others tbh. That’s in part due to longevity and service to the club. It’s also in part due to how he has acted whilst a Hibs player (across his spells), and the negativity that he has caused.
He was disruptive the first time. This time, I think he’s been more than that, he’s been disrespectful to the club, to Lennon, to his team mates, and to the fans. That can’t be excused because of his performances. He rightly would expect Hibs to pay his full wages, but he wasn’t putting in full effort, which has a knock on affect on him and his teammates.
Thanks for for the good times, won’t miss the bad times, I think Stokes will live to regret throwing this opportunity back in Lennons face. I can’t see him getting near another club of stature, although no doubt a desperate club will pay him a decent wage to pull the same crap with them.
Sammy7nil
30-01-2018, 10:14 PM
Its done, he’s gone. What purpose does it serve to start hating the guy now? Or being disappointed in him? He gave me the greatest weekend of my life, that tops the lot.
Nobody hates him he will always have a huge part in the clubs history but he is only one player out of many who played their part in May. It appears from the outside he cares very little for our club and I am sure everyone associated with Hibs will very quickly get over his untimely departure starting tomorrow.
madhatter
30-01-2018, 10:15 PM
Hopefully you can wake up tomorrow and appreciate some of the stuff our Stokes has done for the club :wink:
Its just football mate and this is just a forum. I love the same club as rest of you. Just because we have different opinion on Stokes doesn't mean we need to berate each other. Stokes has done some wonderful things, I've never denied that. I just think, knowing his talent, he should have showed it more often. If anything I'm complementing him with that - he should have been taking control of most games. He played with us in the Championship and didn't look great in a lot of games...I remember both sides to his play. He is largely a disappointment for me because of his talent. If he didn't have that talent then I wouldn't expect so much of him...
Hope he can get himself sorted and enjoy the remainder of his career. My focus is on Hibs though, hope other fans are the same.
A new day tomorrow and we have a big game. :flag:
3 or 4 posters on this thread making themselves look absolutely stupid by some of their posts, some of the comments are just ****ing nuts, lots of drugs being taken tonight I think.
Its done, he’s gone. What purpose does it serve to start hating the guy now? Or being disappointed in him? He gave me the greatest weekend of my life, that tops the lot.
I’m sorry if that doesn’t match what people want to hear but I’d rather look beyond all the hearsay of this season and look at the good he has brought this club. Remember the cup win is what allowed us the opportunity to bring him back to us based on our crowds being up, turnover being up, all as a result of his contribution that day in 2016.
But no one else’s contribution? Neither of his goals would have happened except for his teammates setting him up, especially his second goal. And it still needed DGs goal to win the cup.
it was a tremendous and momentous win, but it’s not all credited to Stokes.
HeidTheBaw
30-01-2018, 10:20 PM
Think Beckenbauer in a Hibs strip.
"better than Bobby Moore" I think to quote Tommy DOCHERTY...AND HE WAS RIGHT
pacoluna
30-01-2018, 10:21 PM
"For disciplinary reasons he [Antonio] was not involved tonight," Moyes said. "He turned up late this morning for a meeting and it wasn't the first time. I'm not having it at the club, I've said right from the start what it's going to be like.
It's too often so I didn't involve him tonight, otherwise I would have probably tried to get him on the bench. He's apologised for it and because of that we move on.
This is what Moyes said with regards to dropping Antonio for West ham today when they already had 9 missing players. What's the difference between this and stokes, why can't hibs/Lennon disclose why stokes was dropped for the 3 games before being released.
guthrie01
30-01-2018, 10:21 PM
Its just football mate and this is just a forum. I love the same club as rest of you. Just because we have different opinion on Stokes doesn't mean we need to berate each other. Stokes has done some wonderful things, I've never denied that. I just think, knowing his talent, he should have showed it more often. If anything I'm complementing him with that - he should have been taking control of most games. He played with us in the Championship and didn't look great in a lot of games...I remember both sides to his play. He is largely a disappointment for me because of his talent. If he didn't have that talent then I wouldn't expect so much of him...
Hope he can get himself sorted and enjoy the remainder of his career. My focus is on Hibs though, hope other fans are the same.
A new day tomorrow and we have a big game. :flag:
Ok fair enough mate, my last comment was going too far.
He had some great times and some bad times, and you're right that he should of been even better than he was because of his abilities but here we are...
Hope we can both enjoy tomorrow and go 7 points clear of the Hearts :thumbsup:
DavidDavidGray
30-01-2018, 10:23 PM
I thought your point was that he was?
Nope. Was simply pointing out that the quote wasn’t made up and he’d jumped the gun slightly to call it ‘utter nonsense’.’
calumhibee1
30-01-2018, 10:24 PM
I will forever love Anthony Stokes but this is probably for the best. Thanks for the memories and putting in the best individual performance I’ve ever seen in a Hibs strip to give me the best day of my life.
Heisenberg
30-01-2018, 10:26 PM
He’s a club legend for his part in us winning that cup. Welcome back for a pint down in Leith whenever he wants, maybe just don’t invite Lennon :greengrin
RossScott1991
30-01-2018, 10:27 PM
Anyone know if we will have had to pay stokes off ?
pacoluna
30-01-2018, 10:28 PM
Nope. Was simply pointing out that the quote wasn’t made up and he’d jumped the gun slightly to call it ‘utter nonsense’.’
It was made up, he said he'll probably be back for a pint when asked if he will be back at Er . Not "yeah but only for a pint" as you quoted.
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 10:31 PM
Nope. Was simply pointing out that the quote wasn’t made up and he’d jumped the gun slightly to call it ‘utter nonsense’.’
Except that it was utter nonsense as the youtube clip demonstrates. It was a perfectly innocent remark said in the moment in response to something that he clearly was not even remotely thinking about at that point when out drinking and celebrating on Leith Walk.
DavidDavidGray
30-01-2018, 10:35 PM
Except that it was utter nonsense as the youtube clip demonstrates. It was a perfectly innocent remark said in the moment in response to something that he clearly was not even remotely thinking about at that point when out drinking and celebrating on Leith Walk.
Have a day off man. He’s asked about whether he’d be back, obviously meaning as in footballing terms, and he responded with the pint remark. I don’t have a problem with the remark itself, however tryna say it’s a made up quote is nonsense.
Captain Trips
30-01-2018, 10:36 PM
A lot of the players at the club do not have the benefit of having played in the Cup final while that means everything to us every player has to be treated by the club equally. The fans do not have to but the club does and so do I.
If this had been Simon Murray he would have had nothing in the locker from a cup final win. Stokes get no slack from me I treat him like anyone else that signed this season. Completely unacceptable.
basehibby
30-01-2018, 10:39 PM
More importantly it sets a very clear marker for the rest of the squad that we have standards of behaviour and not one player is bigger than the club. Sad as it may be I think this is strong (and good) management. I don't feel sorry for Anthony Stokes, I feel sorry for the people that put all that effort in during summer to get him. He's let everyone down at the club.
This - thanks for the memories Stokesy but you blew it. Good strong management from Lennon who I think dealt with the situation with the minimum of fuss while sending a clear message to the rest of the squad that he's not to be messed with.
Hopefully he can put the freed up wage to good use - it's looking like an interesting close to the window now!
One Day Soon
30-01-2018, 10:41 PM
Have a day off man. He’s asked about whether he’d be back, obviously meaning as in footballing terms, and he responded with the pint remark. I don’t have a problem with the remark itself, however tryna say it’s a made up quote is nonsense.
Look, the quote is being used to imply he was being disrespectful to the club in dismissing whether he would be back to play by saying only for a pint. That was clearly not his intent or meaning. The quote is being used out of context and is therefore complete nonsense.
The Harp
30-01-2018, 10:42 PM
Will always be grateful to Stokesy for the vital part he played in our Cup win - I had resigned myself to the fact that I wouldn't see a Hibs captain lift our holy grail before I popped my clogs.
None of us wanted his time at Hibs to end this way but I wish him well and hope he gets his life sorted before it's too late.
RossScott1991
30-01-2018, 10:51 PM
What’s the script with his contract , do hibs need to pay him off?
SRHibs
30-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Look, the quote is being used to imply he was being disrespectful to the club in dismissing whether he would be back to play by saying only for a pint. That was clearly not his intent or meaning. The quote is being used out of context and is therefore complete nonsense.
The quote is literally being used in context. I didn’t think it was disrespectful however his comment, along with Boyle’s “will he ****”, seems to imply he didn’t expect to be back playing football at ER. That’s not to say he wasn’t glad to be back, but I couldn’t really see how anything else could be inferred from that exchange.
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 10:54 PM
What’s the script with his contract , do hibs need to pay him off?
How would any of us know the exact details of what are private and confidential employer/employee negotiated contract terminations?
How much are the Yams paying Malaury Martin to sit on pavement cafes and drink Lattes every week?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
lochhibs
30-01-2018, 10:56 PM
good riddance to bad rubbish.
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 10:58 PM
good riddance to bad rubbish.
:confused:
Pathetic.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
sleeping giant
30-01-2018, 10:58 PM
That moment though , when he ran through the smoke to score so early :gwa:
lochhibs
30-01-2018, 11:02 PM
:confused:
Pathetic.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
why is it pathetic?
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:05 PM
why is it pathetic?
Ehh.. duh.
You called a Holy Grail winning legend 'bad rubbish'.
I would suggest that's 100% Pathetic.
No?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Captain Trips
30-01-2018, 11:09 PM
Ehh.. duh.
You called a Holy Grail winning legend 'bad rubbish'.
I would suggest that's 100% Pathetic.
No?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
The only thing pathetic in all this is Stokes, if Simon Murray had been the one binned he would have no past at Hibs to cut him slack. For me all players should be treated the same and Stokes behaviour while back at my club has been unacceptable.
California-Hibs
30-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Ehh.. duh.
You called a Holy Grail winning legend 'bad rubbish'.
I would suggest that's 100% Pathetic.
No?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Exactly. I’m glad he’s gone too as it’s for the greater good these days but a level of respect should ALWAYS be given to him for two, yes TWO goals he scored in our Cup Final win. Wether some folks like it or not he’ll go down as one of the all time biggest legends of Easter Road.
lochhibs
30-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Ehh.. duh.
You called a Holy Grail winning legend 'bad rubbish'.
I would suggest that's 100% Pathetic.
No?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
legend or not he's shown a total disregard to the people who put faith in bringing him back to the club. ive not mentioned his impact on 'that day' because i feel it's irrelevant in this situation. he's been a bad seed on his return. you going say he hasn't been?
CathroMustStay
30-01-2018, 11:10 PM
So Lennon's in charge and NO-ONE gets away with crap. What a turnaround that is from the cossetting of chocolate soldiers we'd been seeing for years before he came.
I'll never forget the cup final and his contribution but I'm afraid I'll also struggle to forget this drawn out episode and his failure to commit properly to the club's interests this season. It's been a golden opportunity for him and the club to kick on and instead he's let himself and the club down.
I genuinely believe we're building something special right now and anyone who isn't signed up to that or who thinks they're bigger than the the rest needs to know where the door is.
Nailed it. :top marks
Thanks for the Scottish Cup Final, Stokesy, but your attitude as a professional football player is/was deplorable.
:nlgwa
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:11 PM
The only thing pathetic in all this is Stokes, if Simon Murray had been the one binned he would have no past at Hibs to cut him slack. For me all players should be treated the same and Stokes behaviour while back at my club has been unacceptable.
Would you call Stokesy the man who did most to win the Holy Grail 'bad rubbish'?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Captain Trips
30-01-2018, 11:13 PM
Would you call Stokesy the man who did most to win the Holy Grail 'bad rubbish'?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Yes I think he is of now in 2018 an utter dick, and we will not be winning it in 2018 as he was unavailable to help us do so due to being a dick.
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:13 PM
legend or not he's shown a total disregard to the people who put faith in bringing him back to the club. ive not mentioned his impact on 'that day' because i feel it's irrelevant in this situation. he's been a bad seed on his return. you going say he hasn't been?
As a lifelong Hibernian supporter I'd never call any of our players no matter what 'bad rubbish'. Especially not one who scored two goals in the quest to win the Holy Grail.
Pathetic!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
lochhibs
30-01-2018, 11:15 PM
Would you call Stokesy the man who did most to win the Holy Grail 'bad rubbish'?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
i already did. you need to forget the cup win and see what impact he's had on and off the park this season at the club.
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:15 PM
Yes I think he is of now in 2018 an utter dick.
Wow!
No need to say any more to me as i won't be replying to you. We're on completely different wavelengths.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
monktonharp
30-01-2018, 11:15 PM
his performance that day will live with me until I finally depart this planet.
Shame how it’s turned out but I, along with the thousands of other Hibs fans will never ever forget his contribution to what is one of if not the best day of our lives.Stokesey deserved to be taking the Ba' hame that day! he ran the show, with our captain putting the "final" nail on the hun coffin but Anthony Stokes deservered at least a hatrick that day. forever remembered. surprised at some comments, but do remember that Latapy should have played for us in a perfectly winnable final.! he f==ked it up and cost us the chance but some still call him a legend!
Captain Trips
30-01-2018, 11:16 PM
Wow!
No need to say any more to me as i won't be replying to you. We're on completely different wavelengths.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Excellent is that a promise?
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:17 PM
i already did. you need to forget the cup win and see what impact he's had on and off the park this season at the club.
I'll never forget the Holy Grail win!!!
Ever!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
California-Hibs
30-01-2018, 11:18 PM
Ok, he’s gone. It’s for the greater good. No one is bigger than the club and any off field distractions need and should be dealt with appropriately. I’m ok with this decision. What I’m not ok with is some of the stuff and names that are getting thrown about towards this guy!
Let it truly sink in for a minute. 114 years....two goals out of three to win us THAT cup! Wether folk like it or not Anthony Stokes will go down in the history books as one of the biggest all time legends of our club. Of course it’s sour how it’s ended and there most definitely is a tainted aspect of the whole player, BUT, let’s not forget just how massive a contribution he made in a game that meant the world to us and will be remembered forever more.
Let’s remember him for that.
Rant over. Sorry your attitude couldn’t fall in line Anthony, but that 90 minute show you put on in May 21st 2016, wow, just wow. ‘Anthony Stokes baring down on gooooal....!’
Goodbye legend.
sleeping giant
30-01-2018, 11:20 PM
"Need to forget the cup win"
:hilarious
basehibby
30-01-2018, 11:20 PM
The famous 5, Stanton, Sauzee, griffiths.
All come behind stokes in the list of all time greats. This is the man who scored two goals in the Scottish cup final! Hero.
erm - you and cleanyman want to lay off the cleaning fluid
lochhibs
30-01-2018, 11:21 PM
I'll never forget the Holy Grail win!!!
Ever!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
so in your eyes any of the 14 that played that day can do whatever they want at the club and you're fine with it?
and you say i'm the 1 that's pathetic.
deary me.
HeidTheBaw
30-01-2018, 11:21 PM
Would you call Stokesy the man who did most to win the Holy Grail 'bad rubbish'?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
there were others to thank..... he didn't do it all on his own. At least guys like Keat's..now gone, Fyvie...now gone played as if wearing the jersey meant something to them... same with Font's. Stokes and only Stokes blew his chance at ER...nobody else, so deal. bet you can't wait to applaud JC to appear at ER in a Hun jersey...I for one now hate him, legend or not
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:22 PM
there were others to thank..... he didn't do it all on his own. At least guys like Keat's..now gone, Fyvie...now gone played as if wearing the jersey meant something to them... same with Font's. Stokes and only Stokes blew his chance at ER...nobody else, so deal. bet you can't wait to applaud JC to appear at ER in a Hun jersey...I for one now hate him, legend or not
Bugger off!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
sleeping giant
30-01-2018, 11:22 PM
Yes I think he is of now in 2018 an utter dick, and we will not be winning it in 2018 as he was unavailable to help us do so due to being a dick.
Is that how you will remember him when telling the story of the cup win when you're old and grey?
:bitchy:
Jamesie
30-01-2018, 11:24 PM
Has to be one of the most disappointing signings ever, especially when you consider the furore and excitement over him on here towards the end of the window, but you can’t fault Lennon for signing him I don’t think. Hindsight eh. Only out for himself.
Agree - Lennon can’t be criticised here. We always knew this was going to be a gamble; sometimes they work out and sometimes they don’t.
basehibby
30-01-2018, 11:27 PM
So we now have to hate the guy because he’s been a bad boy and been binned? If so do we need to hate Latapy, Riordan, GOC, Griffiths etc? No. The boy won us the cup, not only in the cup final but all the way to the final as well. My feelings will be the same now regardless of what he’s done/doing. He gave me the greatest weekend of my life.
You don't have to hate him but some of the fawning going on here is ridiculous. SC winning legend he may be (along with the rest of his teammates - it is a team game remember!) but he has acted like a leg-end and gotten himself the boot as a disruptive infuence. Sad but true - the club is bigger and we move on.
Captain Trips
30-01-2018, 11:28 PM
Is that how you will remember him when telling the story of the cup win when you're old and grey?
:bitchy:
2016 and 2018 are 2 different events, he was excellent best performance ever possibly. In 2018 he is a dick yeah, I can easily separate the 2 events.
If Simon Murray had done this without the good fortune to be a cup winner the attitude on here would be far far worse for him. I would have called him a dick or any other players that jeopardise THIS season targets.
Stokes should be called out in the same way if this had been Murray, Slivka, Rocky or Barker. They would have got hounded for being unavailable for a Derby due to indiscipline.
HeidTheBaw
30-01-2018, 11:30 PM
Bugger off!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Why would I?...cos' i'm new here lmao.... Admins know me from way back, but your succinct and well thought reply in the face of my ripping you a new one is cause for much entertainment...I am not, never have been a sycophant. I''m sure Stokesy loves you though. Want to buy a "stokesy's on fire" mug?
only 6 in the world...
lochhibs
30-01-2018, 11:33 PM
2016 and 2018 are 2 different events, he was excellent best performance ever possibly. In 2018 he is a dick yeah, I can easily separate the 2 events.
If Simon Murray had done this without the good fortune to be a cup winner the attitude on here would be far far worse for him. I would have called him a dick or any other players that jeopardise THIS season targets.
agree 100%. some people cant or wont separate the 2 events.
monktonharp
30-01-2018, 11:34 PM
I have not followed the thread through fully, and not read a Red Top paper for years now and may be out the loop regarding the actual circumstances of his demise as a Hibernian(ex) player. I do however, retain the right to remember his performance in the final that day as one of the best I can remember from a Hibernian player at Hampden, with the exception of Stanton/O'Rourke way back.I fully respect the club's actions when they have kicked him out the door, and there must have been something seriously wrong with his actions or attitude. a sad end.
basehibby
30-01-2018, 11:36 PM
Dont be daft, we will have won it numerous times in the next 60 years.
I like you're thinking BH :thumbsup:
:flag::cup::cup::cup::cup::cup::cup::cup::flag:
Is It On....
30-01-2018, 11:37 PM
Just watched the first goal again..what a glorious finish and the celebration was so brilliantly understated.
RossScott1991
30-01-2018, 11:39 PM
Just watched the highlights of cup final on the back of this. Could and should have had about 4 goals. He is a man on a mission, there was no way he wasn’t winning the cup that day. It is easily probaly one of the best individual performance I’ve ever seen. Brings a sadness, watching him go at tavernier all game. If only that was the stokes we had. Sorry it didn’t work out, but he will look at himself one day and realise. No one should harbour bad feelings though as this man played a massive part in providing memories of a lifetime. He is human, we are all different and make mistakes.
Thank you Stokesy, regardless of what mistakes you have made I will always remember you terrorising rangers that day. “Stokesys on fire” in streets of Leith in early hours of the morning. Any future kids/grandkids I will be able to watch back cup final dvd and show them moments that you should be remembered for.
Stokesy on fire your defence is terrified - 21/05/2016
monktonharp
30-01-2018, 11:42 PM
Just watched the highlights of cup final on the back of this. Could and should have had about 4 goals. He is a man on a mission, there was no way he wasn’t winning the cup that day. It is easily probaly one of the best individual performance I’ve ever seen. Brings a sadness, watching him go at tavernier all game. If only that was the stokes we had. Sorry it didn’t work out, but he will look at himself one day and realise. No one should harbour bad feelings though as this man played a massive part in providing memories of a lifetime. He is human, we are all different and make mistakes.
Thank you Stokesy, regardless of what mistakes you have made I will always remember you terrorising rangers that day. “Stokesys on fire” in streets of Leith in early hours of the morning. Any future kids/grandkids I will be able to watch back cup final dvd and show them moments that you should be remembered for.
Stokesy on fire your defence is terrified - 21/05/2016
:rockin:
hibby6270
30-01-2018, 11:46 PM
Ok, he’s gone. It’s for the greater good. No one is bigger than the club and any off field distractions need and should be dealt with appropriately. I’m ok with this decision. What I’m not ok with is some of the stuff and names that are getting thrown about towards this guy!
Let it truly sink in for a minute. 114 years....two goals out of three to win us THAT cup! Wether folk like it or not Anthony Stokes will go down in the history books as one of the biggest all time legends of our club. Of course it’s sour how it’s ended and there most definitely is a tainted aspect of the whole player, BUT, let’s not forget just how massive a contribution he made in a game that meant the world to us and will be remembered forever more.
Let’s remember him for that.
Rant over. Sorry your attitude couldn’t fall in line Anthony, but that 90 minute show you put on in May 21st 2016, wow, just wow. ‘Anthony Stokes baring down on gooooal....!’
Goodbye legend.
:thumbsup:
guthrie01
30-01-2018, 11:49 PM
I mean I agree with all of your post but do we really need ANOTHER thread about Stokes.
This is like the 50th thread over the past couple of weeks
Halifaxhibby
30-01-2018, 11:51 PM
Thought I'd join in as well.... thank you anthony for a pefect display of what you can do as a player last year..your finish against the govan zombies after 15 secs at easter road ( granted it was wee zemamma that set it up beautifully ) was indeed a highlight!. You have let yourself and so many of your admirers down lately which is such a shame. Now do us all a favour and jog on....
Tornadoes70
30-01-2018, 11:55 PM
Ok, he’s gone. It’s for the greater good. No one is bigger than the club and any off field distractions need and should be dealt with appropriately. I’m ok with this decision. What I’m not ok with is some of the stuff and names that are getting thrown about towards this guy!
Let it truly sink in for a minute. 114 years....two goals out of three to win us THAT cup! Wether folk like it or not Anthony Stokes will go down in the history books as one of the biggest all time legends of our club. Of course it’s sour how it’s ended and there most definitely is a tainted aspect of the whole player, BUT, let’s not forget just how massive a contribution he made in a game that meant the world to us and will be remembered forever more.
Let’s remember him for that.
Rant over. Sorry your attitude couldn’t fall in line Anthony, but that 90 minute show you put on in May 21st 2016, wow, just wow. ‘Anthony Stokes baring down on gooooal....!’
Goodbye legend.
Great post Sir!
Undoubtedly a Hibernian FC Legend!
We put a banner up (not me personally) saying it was 'Time for Heroes' and Stokesy answered the call. My brother and I had not long entered Hampden when he scored and it was magnificent. A forever Hibernian legend no matter the recent indulgences. I'd hope the vast majority of us who had Dad's or Mum's who'd yearned for but never lived long enough or were well enough to see the Holy Grail lifted will see past the human frailties that exist within.
God bless you Stokesy, you brought tears of joy to most of us!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!
HeidTheBaw
30-01-2018, 11:56 PM
I mean I agree with all of your post but do we really need ANOTHER thread about Stokes.
This is like the 50th thread over the past couple of weeks
Erm ...no we don't...if he's gone, he's gone. MOVE on
Halifaxhibby
30-01-2018, 11:58 PM
Thanks tony. All the best. Now beat it!...we need folk to play and care.:nlgwa
monktonharp
30-01-2018, 11:58 PM
Ok, he’s gone. It’s for the greater good. No one is bigger than the club and any off field distractions need and should be dealt with appropriately. I’m ok with this decision. What I’m not ok with is some of the stuff and names that are getting thrown about towards this guy!
Let it truly sink in for a minute. 114 years....two goals out of three to win us THAT cup! Wether folk like it or not Anthony Stokes will go down in the history books as one of the biggest all time legends of our club. Of course it’s sour how it’s ended and there most definitely is a tainted aspect of the whole player, BUT, let’s not forget just how massive a contribution he made in a game that meant the world to us and will be remembered forever more.
Let’s remember him for that.
Rant over. Sorry your attitude couldn’t fall in line Anthony, but that 90 minute show you put on in May 21st 2016, wow, just wow. ‘Anthony Stokes baring down on gooooal....!’
Goodbye legend.new thread and trying to be a new slant , on his plus and minus attributes. might be merged with the original thread of his demise, but I have some degree of support with your comments. he has done some silly stuff in the past, and we all knew he was liable to do things again. you have to consider that anyone playing for Celtic, when he was at the time was actually daft enough to buy a front street hoose in Broxburn, might have a wee mental issue. however, I agree he will ever be remembered for that day. btw, after watching your actions when we won that day, I wonder if we had lost.......................would you have been forever remembered for smashing that wall mounted telly by throwing one o' the bairns at it? lol
monktonharp
31-01-2018, 12:01 AM
Thought I'd join in as well.... thank you anthony for a pefect display of what you can do as a player last year..your finish against the govan zombies after 15 secs at easter road ( granted it was wee zemamma that set it up beautifully ) was indeed a highlight!. You have let yourself and so many of your admirers down lately which is such a shame. Now do us all a favour and jog on....I hope your snow is baw deep in Halifax tomorrow, lol
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 12:09 AM
Great post Sir!
Undoubtedly a Hibernian FC Legend!
We put a banner up (not me personally) saying it was 'Time for Heroes' and Stokesy answered the call. My brother and I had not long entered Hampden when he scored and it was magnificent. A forever Hibernian legend no matter the recent indulgences. I'd hope the vast majority of us who had Dad's or Mum's who'd yearned for but never lived long enough or were well enough to see the Holy Grail lifted will see past the human frailties that exist within.
God bless you Stokesy, you brought tears of joy to most of us!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!
your brother scored ???......LEGEND...bugger me I must have been pissed ;)
Tornadoes70
31-01-2018, 12:16 AM
your brother scored ???......LEGEND...bugger me I must have been pissed ;)
Aye, if you say so.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Halifaxhibby
31-01-2018, 12:16 AM
I hope your snow is baw deep in Halifax tomorrow, lol
Cheers sweetie.x :aok:
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 12:25 AM
:boo hoo:
Aye, if you say so.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Tornadoes70
31-01-2018, 12:28 AM
:boo hoo:
Did I forget to say my brother ran on the pitch scored a goal and Stokesy celebrated it and you've ripped me a new one!
Okay!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 12:41 AM
Did I forget to say my brother ran on the pitch scored a goal and Stokesy celebrated it and you've ripped me a new one!
Okay!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
read back..i think you will find that you forgot to mention it..... was that at East Mains then??? well ripped haha...Stokes , legend as was is a liability, deal with it
monktonharp
31-01-2018, 12:45 AM
Cheers sweetie.x :aok:
so kind
Tornadoes70
31-01-2018, 12:46 AM
read back..i think you will find that you forgot to mention it..... was that at East Mains then??? well ripped haha...Stokes , legend as was is a liability, deal with it
What's your take on Potter who appears to hate Hibernian, attacking football, criticism, being beat fairly, and Malaury Martin enjoying Lattes's on match day etc?
If you can rip me a new one surely you could rip them doubly as well?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 12:56 AM
What's your take on Potter who appears to hate Hibernian, attacking football, criticism, being beat fairly, and Malaury Martin enjoying Lattes's on match day etc?
If you can rip me a new one surely you could rip them doubly as well?
Mon the Cabbage!!!
ye I could rip them..i don't care to though. they do it for themselves. Hate everything about them but not gonna get bent out of shape about it. Let them worry about US
Tornadoes70
31-01-2018, 12:59 AM
ye I could rip them..i don't care to though. they do it for themselves. Hate everything about them but not gonna get bent out of shape about it. Let them worry about US
Aye.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 01:04 AM
Aye.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
No worries..be up the road for the Fridat night derby...Mash tun pre game, you can buy :na na:
Tornadoes70
31-01-2018, 01:06 AM
No worries..be up the road for the Fridat night derby...Mash tun pre game, you can buy :na na:
No worries mate, nice one!
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Hi Heid Yin
31-01-2018, 01:26 AM
I for one wish him good luck in not just his football career but his life in general.
Once the years tick by, Stokesy will reflect on words said and deeds done. This applies to all of us.
I feel disappointment in his leaving us, but also pride in the behaviour and actions of the caretakers of our great club.
They are privy to what actually led to Stokes' demise and I trust in them, in particular, Neil lennon and Leeann Dempster, to have weighed up the repurcussions and impact of letting our marquee signing go.
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 01:47 AM
Stokes did the business that day.... meanwhile as a Hibs supporter of 50+ years I watched from a hospital bed...near death, but yeah I obviously got through it. Despite all my ills I try to get to games as often as health and finances allow. Did Stokes ever give a **** about me ??? I doubt it long as he could get to the bookies...why did we let him go in his first spell?...hitting on the other, mostly younger players to fund his gambling habit...totally unsettled the dressing room... legendary prick is what he is
jakedance
31-01-2018, 01:52 AM
Best of luck to the man. A genuine club legend. We wouldn’t have had the best day in our history without him.
I trust Lennon and Dempster on this and if he had to go I’m glad the situation has been nipped in the bud in what seems a quiet and dignified way.
Viva_Palmeiras
31-01-2018, 01:54 AM
Worthy of a separate thread or to be merged?0
Johnny_Leith
31-01-2018, 01:55 AM
Fair enough, that's your opinion. It's a bit all over the place, I think you're trying to say something along the lines of 'thanks for your 21/5/16 performance but your off-field issues have left to you not being focused and I'm glad you're away'.
I doubt anyone on here is going to change your opinion. But, although I'm glad you're better, I fail to see the relevance of your hospitalisation. Unless stokes knew you were in hospital, what's that got to do with it? Do you mean to say, players move on a football isn't as important as a person's health, so well survive without him?
As for letting him go the first time, the player wanted to move and we had a good offer from Celtic. He was doing the business on the park and his talents attracted a bigger club, it's football. Yes, lots of rumours were floating about at the time but that was a long time ago. If those actions have continued, then it's stokes who loses out by wasting his career. Hibernian will continue to grow.
Is there anything wrong with fans wishing a player well on their way out the club? Regardless of the circumstances, I'll always be grateful to stokes for his performance on our glorious day. He was unplayable, scored two and played a massive part in ending our hoodoo and giving all of us the best sporting (some the non sporting) day of our lives.
Nobody is perfect, good luck Anthony. Thanks for all your efforts over the years, we move onwards and upwards.
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 02:11 AM
Worthy of a separate thread or to be merged?0
He's no longer worthy....**** on us
Fair enough, that's your opinion. It's a bit all over the place, I think you're trying to say something along the lines of 'thanks for your 21/5/16 performance but your off-field issues have left to you not being focused and I'm glad you're away'.
I doubt anyone on here is going to change your opinion. But, although I'm glad you're better, I fail to see the relevance of your hospitalisation. Unless stokes knew you were in hospital, what's that got to do with it? Do you mean to say, players move on a football isn't as important as a person's health, so well survive without him?
As for letting him go the first time, the player wanted to move and we had a good offer from Celtic. He was doing the business on the park and his talents attracted a bigger club, it's football. Yes, lots of rumours were floating about at the time but that was a long time ago. If those actions have continued, then it's stokes who loses out by wasting his career. Hibernian will continue to grow.
Is there anything wrong with fans wishing a player well on their way out the club? Regardless of the circumstances, I'll always be grateful to stokes for his performance on our glorious day. He was unplayable, scored two and played a massive part in ending our hoodoo and giving all of us the best sporting (some the non sporting) day of our lives.
Nobody is perfect, good luck Anthony. Thanks for all your efforts over the years, we move onwards and upwards.
My opinion is all over the place?.. FWIW of course he never knew of my hospitalisation or health issues. BUT and this is a big BUT..Hibs supporters funded his move to us and wages thereafter, and he repaid us by or with what? knowing we loved him ? then **** on us? if he'd shaken a leg in other games we'd be higher than fourth. Given that's what he was bought to do I.E. score goals... Player of his "class" eh?...wake me up for the cup finals...how many against the otherside did he score?..big game player my ass...takes the money and runs
California-Hibs
31-01-2018, 02:11 AM
I mean I agree with all of your post but do we really need ANOTHER thread about Stokes.
This is like the 50th thread over the past couple of weeks
Any and no matter many threads that allows us to reminisce about THAT day in May should always be acceptable and embraced.
California-Hibs
31-01-2018, 02:15 AM
He's no longer worthy....shat on us
My opinion is all over the place?.. FWIW of course he never knew of my hospitalisation or health issues. BUT and this is a big BUT..Hibs supporters funded his move to us and wages thereafter, and he repaid us by or with what? knowing we loved him ? then shat on us? if he'd shaken a leg in other games we'd be higher than fourth. Given that's what he was bought to do I.E. score goals... Player of his "class" eh?...wake me up for the cup finals...how many against the otherside did he score?..big game player my ass...takes the money and runs
He won us the cup we craved more than anything else. No matter what way you spin it, HE won us the cup that day and will go down as one of the all time greats.
Haymaker
31-01-2018, 02:19 AM
He won us the cup we craved more than anything else. No matter what way you spin it, HE won us the cup that day and will go down as one of the all time greats.
This. He was immense. He was unplayable.
Right now he is leaving under a cloud. In a few years none of us will care how he left. He was in THAT team. He scored two goals in THAT final.
Saint Anthony Stokes
HeidTheBaw
31-01-2018, 02:21 AM
He won us the cup we craved more than anything else. No matter what way you spin it, HE won us the cup that day and will go down as one of the all time greats.
McGiinn, Hendo and SDG won us the cup and Fyvie...that's fact. Stokes went missing when we went 2-1 down....until Hendo planted one on his folliculararily challenged head..then he was up for it again
Viva_Palmeiras
31-01-2018, 03:17 AM
McGiinn, Hendo and SDG won us the cup and Fyvie...that's fact. Stokes went missing when we went 2-1 down....until Hendo planted one on his folliculararily challenged head..then he was up for it again
Looks like there’s no changing your mind. Perhaps just get it all off your chest and move on.
Nobody went missing that day. Games ebb and flow. Being there at the crucial moments is key and executing - he and the team did.
Maybe get a voodoo doll of Stokes and pins in him :)
heid the baw
31-01-2018, 03:57 AM
I wasn't born, maybe nostalgia please a part in your method of thinking. I hear the stories but it has no real significance to me. My children my grandchildren will be told the fairytale of stokes double in the Scottish cup final after 114 years before any mention of Stanton or the famous 5 until the next hero comes along.
What younger posters have to realise is the context of the time when Stanton played. Stanton's Hibs lost a cup final to a side with Macari, Dalglish, McNeill, Jinky etc. They also came league runners up to Steins 9 in a row team.
Hibs beat a very average Rangers side to win the cup. A great achievement, but before we start comparing Stokes to Stanton, just remember Stanton twice led Hibs within a baw hair of being Scottish champions and Stokes contributions still failed to get us out of the Championship.
One game can make you a legend. Just ask Wayne Foster
Viva_Palmeiras
31-01-2018, 04:14 AM
Was just saying to a Jambo - who posted a pic of Foster on the fence after our last derby - right enough that was the year he went on to lift the cup.... Not!
I think it can be difficult for non-Stanton era fans to appreciate just how good they were and I include myself in that however when you read the history it starts to sink in nothing like seeing them in the flesh tho
Allant1981
31-01-2018, 05:24 AM
McGiinn, Hendo and SDG won us the cup and Fyvie...that's fact. Stokes went missing when we went 2-1 down....until Hendo planted one on his folliculararily challenged head..then he was up for it again
pish
Libby Hibby
31-01-2018, 05:27 AM
Can he no just sorry?
Get him in the team tomorrow
Depends on what he is sorry for.
I’m afraid none of us on here know.
Northernhibee
31-01-2018, 05:44 AM
He didn't win us the cup. The entire team won us the cup. To a man we were fantastic that day.
California-Hibs
31-01-2018, 06:19 AM
McGiinn, Hendo and SDG won us the cup and Fyvie...that's fact. Stokes went missing when we went 2-1 down....until Hendo planted one on his folliculararily challenged head..then he was up for it again
Get a grip. Sure, I’ll definitely come on board with the team on the whole won us the cup but there’s no doubt whatever that Stokes was head and shoulders above. Away and rewatch the highlights! 2 goals, hit the post, brilliant shot that forced the corner in the 92nd minute for the winner....are those facts enough for you? You may have a gripe about Stokes but don’t talk pish!
erin-go-bragh87
31-01-2018, 06:30 AM
Making up quotes now are we 😂😂 never once did he say he will only be back for a pint. What nonsense.
Maybe have a quick Google or look on YouTube before calling my post nonsense pal.
pacoluna
31-01-2018, 06:31 AM
Maybe have a quick Google or look on YouTube before calling my post nonsense pal.
I didn't need to look and can confirm your talking nonsense.
"Yeah but only for a pint" wasn't said.
Dalianwanda
31-01-2018, 06:36 AM
Saddens me to see people salivate over a player like Stokes, let's be honest he is a bit of a waster, like Riordan and O'Connor. 3 of them had endless talent but they have gone about wasting it.
We've had far better in the past, true legends who would do anything for Hibs. These players would stay back after training to improve themselves, then at the latter end of their career stay back to help a few of the younger players.
People need to get over this. I've seen people claiming Hibs are disgraceful and Stokes has been dealt with in a shocking manner. Worries me how people can side with a notoriously badly behaved individual over the club they've loved for years. Incidentally Leeann will be involved with Stokes' exit? Who do you love more? Its Leeann for me - she had more to do with us winning the cup than anyone else.
To answer your question, Stokes was likely given a bumper contract at Hibs in order to return. A return he delayed either to avoid a preseason, or in the hope of another club coming in, or to get more money from Hibs. He then proceeds to play mediocre in virtually every game. Let's be honest Cup Final is his only stand out performance. How many man of the matches has he won? He is then involved in many off field incidents and has had run in with Lennon and rumours of teammates being unhappy with him...
Love the player I've described above? Nah, I can understand kids having an affection for him. I can also understand those that have suffered 40-50+ years waiting for the cup having an affinity with him. Love? No. I still maintain I love the club. If you need to love anybody at the club, make it Leeann at the moment.
Id agree with a lot of things here. I would say that what he did on the day is part of legend, he on his own isnt. He's shown the club very little respect & from what I've read in interviews still doesn't see that. If it wasnt for his cup performance his last couple of stints with us would be classes as mediocre to say the least.
He reminds me of Conor McGregor as someone who has great skill & ability but never a role model to our kids in how you should conduct yourself.
I'm sad he's gone but glad hes gone, we owe him nothing. Hopefully he sorts himself out and shines with someone (outside our league of course).
allezsauzee
31-01-2018, 06:37 AM
Stokesy will always be a Hibs legend as will the other members of the cup winning team but it's time to move on....until the future thread speculating on Stokes signing for a 4th time is posted.
we are hibs
31-01-2018, 06:38 AM
He's no longer worthy....**** on us
My opinion is all over the place?.. FWIW of course he never knew of my hospitalisation or health issues. BUT and this is a big BUT..Hibs supporters funded his move to us and wages thereafter, and he repaid us by or with what? knowing we loved him ? then **** on us? if he'd shaken a leg in other games we'd be higher than fourth. Given that's what he was bought to do I.E. score goals... Player of his "class" eh?...wake me up for the cup finals...how many against the otherside did he score?..big game player my ass...takes the money and runs
Theres that myth again. That stokes only turned up for the cup final. That season he also won us the game in Inverness only 3 days after losing a cup final, set up MANY goals too including the first Inverness game and Falkirk play offs and was involved in lots of our good play that led to goals.
This season whether people like it or not he's scored 11 goals half way through, and people saying "aye but they're penalties" so what? Do they count less because they came from twelve yards? No, it's the exact same goal. He's also contributed with assists and moments this season for example threading a great through ball for Stevenson against Celtic which Shaw scored from.
its a complete and utter myth which sadly has been bought that stokes turned up for one game. He turned up for much more than that.
Kojock
31-01-2018, 06:39 AM
Let's face it if Stokes wasn't a flawed character he'd be playing at a far higher level than Hibs. Thanks for your contribution to my best ever day as a Hibs supporter. Now it's time to move on. GGTTH
JimBHibees
31-01-2018, 06:48 AM
McGiinn, Hendo and SDG won us the cup and Fyvie...that's fact. Stokes went missing when we went 2-1 down....until Hendo planted one on his folliculararily challenged head..then he was up for it again
Look you got beat last night accept it these things happen. :greengrin
basehibby
31-01-2018, 06:57 AM
Some of the Stokesy apologists on here make me spew.
Garbled ignorant pish like "Stanton couldn't lace his boots"
Pathetic hero-worshiping for a flawed character who has pissed his chances up the wall and shown scant respect for the club we all support.
Insulting other Hibbys and calling them Yams because they disagree with your self-flagelating masochistic nonsense
Coming out with garbage like "he won us the cup" and in so doing totally dismissing the sterling efforts of the team, the squad, the manager that got us there.
Wind yer necks in you pathetic weirdos - you are embarassing.
The Harp Awakes
31-01-2018, 07:02 AM
Gutted for Hibs. Gutted for Anthony. A very sad day.
One Day Soon
31-01-2018, 07:08 AM
McGiinn, Hendo and SDG won us the cup and Fyvie...that's fact. Stokes went missing when we went 2-1 down....until Hendo planted one on his folliculararily challenged head..then he was up for it again
It's hard to tell whether you are deliberately trolling, Yammering or just completely lacking in all judgment.
One Day Soon
31-01-2018, 07:09 AM
Look you got beat last night accept it these things happen. :greengrin
lol. Not on aggregate though eh?
JimBHibees
31-01-2018, 07:12 AM
lol. Not on aggregate though eh?
Just as well Levein didnt go further back with his aggregate scores. I think at one point a few years back it was something like 49-1 for Celtic taking into account about 10 games, their 4 0 freak result was very much that. :greengrin
One Day Soon
31-01-2018, 07:14 AM
Just as well Levein didnt go further back with his aggregate scores. I think at one point a few years back it was something like 49-1 for Celtic taking into account about 10 games, their 4 0 freak result was very much that. :greengrin
Aye, they're back in deep natural ordure now right enough.
Golden Bear
31-01-2018, 07:37 AM
It will be interesting to see where the man ends up, right now I suspect it will be a League of Ireland team .
California-Hibs
31-01-2018, 07:37 AM
Theres that myth again. That stokes only turned up for the cup final. That season he also won us the game in Inverness only 3 days after losing a cup final, set up MANY goals too including the first Inverness game and Falkirk play offs and was involved in lots of our good play that led to goals.
This season whether people like it or not he's scored 11 goals half way through, and people saying "aye but they're penalties" so what? Do they count less because they came from twelve yards? No, it's the exact same goal. He's also contributed with assists and moments this season for example threading a great through ball for Stevenson against Celtic which Shaw scored from.
its a complete and utter myth which sadly has been bought that stokes turned up for one game. He turned up for much more than that.
This guy gets it.
SirDavidsNapper
31-01-2018, 07:46 AM
[emoji23] brilliant. Thanks for the memories Stokesyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/30e364854622d8d30c4d81ea815c9d23.jpg
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BSEJVT
31-01-2018, 07:49 AM
Strange old thread this one
Folk adulating him
Folk disappointed in him
Folk couldn't care less
Add in the utterly pointless debate over past greats and the place of Stokes in amongst them, its got everything this thread except murder and adultery, but having said that its not over yet.
Topped off by "pint gate"
What a fractious place Hibs Net has become
I bet the admins cant wait for the transfer window to close and the games to come thick and fast again
The devil makes work for idle keyboard fingers to do
BegbieHSC
31-01-2018, 07:53 AM
So gutted by this.
Best of luck, Stokesy - forever a ledge! #28
LALthehibeeGAL
31-01-2018, 08:01 AM
Just watched the highlights of cup final on the back of this. Could and should have had about 4 goals. He is a man on a mission, there was no way he wasn’t winning the cup that day. It is easily probaly one of the best individual performance I’ve ever seen. Brings a sadness, watching him go at tavernier all game. If only that was the stokes we had. Sorry it didn’t work out, but he will look at himself one day and realise. No one should harbour bad feelings though as this man played a massive part in providing memories of a lifetime. He is human, we are all different and make mistakes.
Thank you Stokesy, regardless of what mistakes you have made I will always remember you terrorising rangers that day. “Stokesys on fire” in streets of Leith in early hours of the morning. Any future kids/grandkids I will be able to watch back cup final dvd and show them moments that you should be remembered for.
Stokesy on fire your defence is terrified - 21/05/2016
:agree::top marks
LALthehibeeGAL
31-01-2018, 08:04 AM
Ok, he’s gone. It’s for the greater good. No one is bigger than the club and any off field distractions need and should be dealt with appropriately. I’m ok with this decision. What I’m not ok with is some of the stuff and names that are getting thrown about towards this guy!
Let it truly sink in for a minute. 114 years....two goals out of three to win us THAT cup! Wether folk like it or not Anthony Stokes will go down in the history books as one of the biggest all time legends of our club. Of course it’s sour how it’s ended and there most definitely is a tainted aspect of the whole player, BUT, let’s not forget just how massive a contribution he made in a game that meant the world to us and will be remembered forever more.
Let’s remember him for that.
Rant over. Sorry your attitude couldn’t fall in line Anthony, but that 90 minute show you put on in May 21st 2016, wow, just wow. ‘Anthony Stokes baring down on gooooal....!’
Goodbye legend.
:agree::top marks:aok:
What a car crash of a thread this is :confused:
Look, Stokes and all that team will forever be legends for winning the cup in 2016 but we are not now talking about that game, we're talking about the here and now.
Stokes came back, took forever to decide if he was going to join us and when he did he started his usual ****ing about, drinking, gambling, not turning up or turning up late and generally acting like a ****. He's caused disruption again in the dressing and was not overly liked by the rest of the players, the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Very good player when he could be ersed which wasn't enough, ta for the memories but ultimately his demons have let him and us down again.
snooky
31-01-2018, 08:09 AM
Strange old thread this one
Folk adulating him
Folk disappointed in him
Folk couldn't care less
Add in the utterly pointless debate over past greats and the place of Stokes in amongst them, its got everything this thread except murder and adultery, but having said that its not over yet.
Topped off by "pint gate"
What a fractious place Hibs Net has become
I bet the admins cant wait for the transfer window to close and the games to come thick and fast again
The devil makes work for idle keyboard fingers to do
I don't think Hibsnet is any different from society as a whole. Everybody has their own take on any subject. This Stoksie thread lays that bare.
What is it they say about opinions? They're like a-holes - everybody has one.Vive la difference, I say.
jacomo
31-01-2018, 08:12 AM
What a car crash of a thread this is :confused:
Look, Stokes and all that team will forever be legends for winning the cup in 2016 but we are not now talking about that game, we're talking about the here and now.
Stokes came back, took forever to decide if he was going to join us and when he did he started his usual ****ing about, drinking, gambling, not turning up or turning up late and generally acting like a ****. He's caused disruption again in the dressing and was not overly liked by the rest of the players, the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Very good player when he could be ersed which wasn't enough, ta for the memories but ultimately his demons have let him and us down again.
:agree:
Don’t know what’s worse tbh - the sanctimonious hand wringing or the overblown eulogies.
Anyhow it’s all done now.
Bostonhibby
31-01-2018, 08:23 AM
Released no.. Punted yes!
Took the utter piss out the club, boy couldn’t care less!Sadly, this is where I am on this sorry mess. We put a lot into getting him on board and it wasn't reciprocated.
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WeeRussell
31-01-2018, 08:33 AM
What a car crash of a thread this is :confused:
Look, Stokes and all that team will forever be legends for winning the cup in 2016 but we are not now talking about that game, we're talking about the here and now.
Stokes came back, took forever to decide if he was going to join us and when he did he started his usual ****ing about, drinking, gambling, not turning up or turning up late and generally acting like a ****. He's caused disruption again in the dressing and was not overly liked by the rest of the players, the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Very good player when he could be ersed which wasn't enough, ta for the memories but ultimately his demons have let him and us down again.
Wait, it’s a “Car crash” because people are reflecting on what he did in the final while acknowledging that it hasn’t worked out this time round? Didn’t you go on to do exactly that in your post, only with a little more dig rather than praise?
May have picked it up wrong as haven’t read all 14 pages, it’s just what your post on it’s own implied.
Wait, it’s a “Car crash” because people are reflecting on what he did in the final while acknowledging that it hasn’t worked out this time round? Didn’t you go on to do exactly that in your post, only with a little more dig rather than praise?
May have picked it up wrong as haven’t read all 14 pages, it’s just what your post on it’s own implied.
It's a car crash because we have a number of posters who won't hear a bad thing written about Stokes, Legend and all that but won't recognise that again he's made a right pigs ear of his return to us.
All 14 players plus the squad are legends for that day in May but we have to focus on now, Stokes acted like a grade A prick and what's happened was inevitable, he has serious social problems that need professional help, if not he may well end up the drunk skint player that used to be a legend, there have been many of those over the years, just look at Gazza and Best.
andybev1
31-01-2018, 08:48 AM
Lennons spoke yesterday as if he was still at the Club, he was asked about stokes and said he will not be in the squad and a decision will be made later. Surely, if released , there would be no questions except a statement of the fact that he was released. He will never play again no doubt but he is not released, unless there is a statement from hibs somewhere.
Hibeesmad
31-01-2018, 08:50 AM
Lennons spoke yesterday as if he was still at the Club, he was asked about stokes and said he will not be in the squad and a decision will be made later. Surely, if true, there would be no questions except a conclusion of the fact that he was released. He will never play again no doubt but he is not released, unless there is a statement from hibs somewhere.
I’d imagine Lennon will confirm this tonight in one of his interviews at the game. At the meantime I’d assume the club are looking to get in a replacement
andybev1
31-01-2018, 09:03 AM
I’d imagine Lennon will confirm this tonight in one of his interviews at the game. At the meantime I’d assume the club are looking to get in a replacement
Sounds about right mate.
lapsedhibee
31-01-2018, 09:22 AM
The quote is literally being used in context. I didn’t think it was disrespectful however his comment, along with Boyle’s “will he ****”, seems to imply he didn’t expect to be back playing football at ER. That’s not to say he wasn’t glad to be back, but I couldn’t really see how anything else could be inferred from that exchange.
:agree:
the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Is this fact, or confirmed rumour, or unconfirmed rumour?
:agree:
Is this fact, or confirmed rumour, or unconfirmed rumour?
I'd be surprised if this was ever confirmed by Hibs or Stokes but a few genuine ITK guys on here have mentioned this, I've also been told this by someone connected to the club, seemingly happened at training when they got back from Portugal, don't know what was said but it nearly came to blows and they had to be separated.
Borderlands
31-01-2018, 10:13 AM
I'd be surprised if this was ever confirmed by Hibs or Stokes but a few genuine ITK guys on here have mentioned this, I've also been told this by someone connected to the club, seemingly happened at training when they got back from Portugal, don't know what was said but it nearly came to blows and they had to be separated.
Anthony Stokes: Hibernian striker leaves by mutual consent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42882013
Anthony Stokes: Hibernian striker leaves by mutual consent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42882013
Think you misunderstood my post, I meant that Hibs and Stokes would not confirm what actually happened between Stokes and Lennon, we may never know the full story, obviously It's been confirmed he's left.
21.05.2016
31-01-2018, 10:42 AM
It's amazing how much slack Stokes is getting from hibs fans because of the cup final. Being a cup final hero does not give any player the right to disrespect the club and manager and cause disruption. Perhaps that was Stokes problem? Perhaps it all went to his head and he believed he could get away with what he liked because he was a club legend.
If it had been a player not involved in the cup final who had been doing the same things he would be hounded out but for some people they are happy to have a player taking the utter piss out the club just because he scored in the final.
blackpoolhibs
31-01-2018, 10:43 AM
What a car crash of a thread this is :confused:
Look, Stokes and all that team will forever be legends for winning the cup in 2016 but we are not now talking about that game, we're talking about the here and now.
Stokes came back, took forever to decide if he was going to join us and when he did he started his usual ****ing about, drinking, gambling, not turning up or turning up late and generally acting like a ****. He's caused disruption again in the dressing and was not overly liked by the rest of the players, the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Very good player when he could be ersed which wasn't enough, ta for the memories but ultimately his demons have let him and us down again.
100% spot on. :top marks
Also, players do not get dropped and released for no reason, especially good players. So those who wanted him back in the side irrespective, need to ask themselves why Hibs would be doing this?
pacoluna
31-01-2018, 10:48 AM
It's amazing how much slack Stokes is getting from hibs fans because of the cup final. Being a cup final hero does not give any player the right to disrespect the club and manager and cause disruption. Perhaps that was Stokes problem? Perhaps it all went to his head and he believed he could get away with what he liked because he was a club legend.
If it had been a player not involved in the cup final who had been doing the same things he would be hounded out but for some people they are happy to have a player taking the utter piss out the club just because he scored in the final.
All ifs and buts, fact is though he did play a massive part in us winning the cup so of course he is going to be remembered differently from others.
GreenNWhiteArmy
31-01-2018, 10:52 AM
Hibs legend
Cheers for your contribution in each of your spells at Hibs Stokesy
Sad way for it to end but the show must go on. Big game tonight
lucky
31-01-2018, 11:04 AM
Still nothing from Hibs on his release. Stokes is a great player but only when he can be arsed. The cup final was the greatest day as a Hibs fan. But like all that team they are club legends but whilst we will never forget that day we move on. Stokes has broken club rules and now he’s been moved on. Players come and go but our club continues.
Great post Sir!
Undoubtedly a Hibernian FC Legend!
We put a banner up (not me personally) saying it was 'Time for Heroes' and Stokesy answered the call. My brother and I had not long entered Hampden when he scored and it was magnificent. A forever Hibernian legend no matter the recent indulgences. I'd hope the vast majority of us who had Dad's or Mum's who'd yearned for but never lived long enough or were well enough to see the Holy Grail lifted will see past the human frailties that exist within.
God bless you Stokesy, you brought tears of joy to most of us!!!
Mon the Cabbage!!
Dry your eyes, he's gone.
What a car crash of a thread this is :confused:
Look, Stokes and all that team will forever be legends for winning the cup in 2016 but we are not now talking about that game, we're talking about the here and now.
Stokes came back, took forever to decide if he was going to join us and when he did he started his usual ****ing about, drinking, gambling, not turning up or turning up late and generally acting like a ****. He's caused disruption again in the dressing and was not overly liked by the rest of the players, the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Very good player when he could be ersed which wasn't enough, ta for the memories but ultimately his demons have let him and us down again.
A fine objective well thought out post, sanity.
WeeRussell
31-01-2018, 11:13 AM
It's amazing how much slack Stokes is getting from hibs fans because of the cup final. Being a cup final hero does not give any player the right to disrespect the club and manager and cause disruption. Perhaps that was Stokes problem? Perhaps it all went to his head and he believed he could get away with what he liked because he was a club legend.
If it had been a player not involved in the cup final who had been doing the same things he would be hounded out but for some people they are happy to have a player taking the utter piss out the club just because he scored in the final.
How could he be hounded out when nobody actually knows what happened?
.. Martin Boyle (who never featured in the cup final) has had a couple of incidents now and hasn't been hounded out.
I think it's more surprising how many people have now decided he's been rubbish this season, wasn't trying etc, because of the latest incidents/rumours. Cup final exploits aside.
I for one am sad to see the back of him.. and not simply because he's a cup final hero, but because we've lost arguably our best player.
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31-01-2018, 11:13 AM
Dry your eyes, he's gone.
:agree:
He's a fine player, but he's been trouble wherever he's been throughout his career.
IMO his signing was NL's only serious misjudgement in his time here. If it had worked out, it would have been genius. It didn't, and in hindsight it seems it was never going to.
And he wasn't 'hounded out' - not this time, not the last time, not the time before. He gave the club no alternative.
Time to draw a line and move on.
21.05.2016
31-01-2018, 11:19 AM
All ifs and buts, fact is though he did play a massive part in us winning the cup so of course he is going to be remembered differently from others.
I know that but as I say the cup final is not a free pass for him to take the piss out the club. Some fans seem to happily accept Lennon and the club being made a mockery of JUST because it's Stokes. Eternally grateful to Stokes for giving me the best day of my life but hugely annoyed at him for taking the piss out of hibs.
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31-01-2018, 11:21 AM
What a car crash of a thread this is :confused:
Look, Stokes and all that team will forever be legends for winning the cup in 2016 but we are not now talking about that game, we're talking about the here and now.
Stokes came back, took forever to decide if he was going to join us and when he did he started his usual ****ing about, drinking, gambling, not turning up or turning up late and generally acting like a ****. He's caused disruption again in the dressing and was not overly liked by the rest of the players, the Portugal escapade was the last straw and Dempster and Craig got involved telling Lennon to sort one way or another. It came to a head when they got back when he squared up to Lennon and there was only going to be one winner there.
Very good player when he could be ersed which wasn't enough, ta for the memories but ultimately his demons have let him and us down again.
The situation in a nutshell. A club like Hibs that can't just go out and sign whoever the manager wants depends on good relations in the dressing-room. It's perfectly clear that Stokes was a disruptive influence in our squad - as he was on both his previous visits to ER.
I will always be grateful for the two goals he scored at Hampden in 2016, but his indiscipline and disruptive behaviour has been affecting the team adversely for some time now, and IMO his departure was overdue.
Thanks for the memories - mind the door doesn't hurt your back on the way out, Tone. :bye:
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31-01-2018, 11:48 AM
Will always be a legend, but it's an exit akin to Sauzee's in terms of disappointment. Of course Le God was the ultimate pro - Stokes is sadly a wasted talent.
Absolutely not. There's no comparison between the two at all.
The club let FS down - badly.
Stokes has let the club and the fans down - badly - three times now. I'll always be grateful for the Hampden goals, but the club and its future are infinitely more important than a disruptive character like Stokes.
The only person Stokes is interested in is himself. That's always been the case. Good luck to whoever decides to give him his next chance to get back into the game. They'll need it.
Stevie Reid
31-01-2018, 12:55 PM
Absolutely not. There's no comparison between the two at all.
The club let FS down - badly.
Stokes has let the club and the fans down - badly - three times now. I'll always be grateful for the Hampden goals, but the club and its future are infinitely more important than a disruptive character like Stokes.
The only person Stokes is interested in is himself. That's always been the case. Good luck to whoever decides to give him his next chance to get back into the game. They'll need it.
On balance, I'm glad he's gone - I just think it's a shame how it ended.
21.05.2016
31-01-2018, 01:12 PM
He won us the cup we craved more than anything else. No matter what way you spin it, HE won us the cup that day and will go down as one of the all time greats.
Yes but thats not going to help us here and now is it? Thats what some people seem to be missing. YES he's a legend, YES every single hibs fan is eternally grateful to him for that day but he can't live off that and be given a free pass to create trouble and upset the dressing room.
He has been cut a lot of slack because he won us the cup, from myself included up to a point and if it was simply a one off incident i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and move on but it seems to be a series of incidents and he's clearly not learning his lesson. Enough has to be enough, a "final warning" starts to become totally futile if he is getting one over and over again and it hardly sends teh right message to the rest of the players. Not turning up/ turning up late to training and arguing with Lennon when he is there just says to me he's arrogant and has a problem with rules and authority.
Onion
31-01-2018, 01:30 PM
It's a car crash because we have a number of posters who won't hear a bad thing written about Stokes, Legend and all that but won't recognise that again he's made a right pigs ear of his return to us.
All 14 players plus the squad are legends for that day in May but we have to focus on now, Stokes acted like a grade A prick and what's happened was inevitable, he has serious social problems that need professional help, if not he may well end up the drunk skint player that used to be a legend, there have been many of those over the years, just look at Gazza and Best.
Let me guess, empathy ain't your strong suit. Anyone in need of professional help is by nature not in control of their own actions and/or emotions. If Stokes does need help (and it does looks that way), then how on earth can you accuse him of being a "grade A pr*ck" ?
Stokes performance in the Cup Final is an undeniable fact, that we all watched in awe. Some of us would much sooner dwell on that, than start berating and accusing the guy of high treason when no one knows the full facts or his personal circumstances.
Sir David Gray
31-01-2018, 01:45 PM
Let me guess, empathy ain't your strong suit. Anyone in need of professional help is by nature not in control of their own actions and/or emotions. If Stokes does need help (and it does looks that way), then how on earth can you accuse him of being a "grade A pr*ck" ?
Stokes performance in the Cup Final is an undeniable fact, that we all watched in awe. Some of us would much sooner dwell on that, than start berating and accusing the guy of high treason when no one knows the full facts or his personal circumstances.
I would like to think that if that was the case, Hibs wouldn't have sacked him or whatever action has been taken against him to terminate his contract.
Let me guess, empathy ain't your strong suit. Anyone in need of professional help is by nature not in control of their own actions and/or emotions. If Stokes does need help (and it does looks that way), then how on earth can you accuse him of being a "grade A pr*ck" ?
Stokes performance in the Cup Final is an undeniable fact, that we all watched in awe. Some of us would much sooner dwell on that, than start berating and accusing the guy of high treason when no one knows the full facts or his personal circumstances.
We're not talking mental health problems here, he's got gambling and drinking problems, these are more addictions than health problems and the kind of addictions that makes you a prick, ask anyone who's got friends and family with these problems, I had a mother and father who both had alcohol problems. Professional help means gong to AA and gamblers anonymous to get help.
Greencore
31-01-2018, 02:12 PM
We're not talking mental health problems here, he's got gambling and drinking problems, these are more addictions than health problems and the kind of addictions that makes you a prick, ask anyone who's got friends and family with these problems, I had a mother and father who both had alcohol problems. Professional help means gong to AA and gamblers anonymous to get help.
Anyone can run a GA and AA meeting. With NO qualifications, they are NOT processional.
Anyone can run a GA and AA meeting. With NO qualifications, they are NOT processional.
Nitpicking here a little, they're seen as professional bodies to help people with there addictions.
calumhibee1
31-01-2018, 02:14 PM
We're not talking mental health problems here, he's got gambling and drinking problems, these are more addictions than health problems and the kind of addictions that makes you a prick, ask anyone who's got friends and family with these problems, I had a mother and father who both had alcohol problems. Professional help means gong to AA and gamblers anonymous to get help.
“The kind of addictions that make you a prick”
Incredible.
MWHIBBIES
31-01-2018, 02:15 PM
Wish I was in the know so I could join in this anti Stokes angry mob.
Discipline comes from the top down, the fact he wasn't the only one being daft tells me there is a problem larger than him.
Don't remember things like this happening under Stubbs. Also don't remember Stubbs missing pre season for a TV gig, partying with another Scottish team when they won a trophy or leaving our training camps for a nonsense dinner.
This isn't some anti Neil Lennon rant but he definitely has to take some responsibility for this.
Sad to see Stokes go, by miles our best player on his day and showed that many times this season. Scored some important goals and created some as well. We'll be lucky to find better.
blackpoolhibs
31-01-2018, 02:16 PM
“The kind of addictions that make you a prick”
Incredible.
They are the kind of addictions that make you very annoying to your employers and playing staff.
“The kind of addictions that make you a prick”
Incredible.
Have you ever dealt with a gambling addict or an alcoholic? They may need help but their actions can make them pricks, ask a few of the players at Hibs and they'l tell you how much of a dick Stokes was like, hence why he was disruptive in the dressing room and has been booted from his last 3 clubs.
Too many dewy eyed people on this forum who see Stokes as some kind of god. Fantastic individual performance on that day in May but his social life and could't give a **** attitude ultimately got him sacked, it's a sad way for his career to end at Hibs but he's only himself to blame.
ahibby
31-01-2018, 02:29 PM
Wish I was in the know so I could join in this anti Stokes angry mob.
Discipline comes from the top down, the fact he wasn't the only one being daft tells me there is a problem larger than him.
Don't remember things like this happening under Stubbs. Also don't remember Stubbs missing pre season for a TV gig, partying with another Scottish team when they won a trophy or leaving our training camps for a nonsense dinner.
This isn't some anti Neil Lennon rant but he definitely has to take some responsibility for this.
Sad to see Stokes go, by miles our best player on his day and showed that many times this season. Scored some important goals and created some as well. We'll be lucky to find better.
Neil Lennon has been proved wrong by bringing in Anthony Stokes. He gambled and lost. He brought him in not just because of his experience and ability but also because he is a fellow country man. At the time I was in two minds, because I didn't think he'd bring us the goals we need. I knew he had talent, I first saw him in a reserve match when he played for Falkirk. He was about nineteen and was coming back from an injury, we dominated that match until the second half when Stokes came on and changed the game. They got a draw 2-2 and while Stokes didn't score iirc, he did lift them to get the draw. The ability was always there but many of us knew that he wasn't really what we needed. The names that are being mentioned now, could be more like what we need. Although can't help feel that Scott Allen won't play a huge part for us but hope I am wrong. So I am more intrigued by the signing of the forward from Grasshoppers and the possible signing of Thomas.
worcesterhibby
31-01-2018, 02:36 PM
“The kind of addictions that make you a prick”
Incredible.
To be fair he should have said "The kind of addictions that make you act like a prick" anyone who has lived with a family member who has a gambling or achohol addiction will understand that sentence. The real problem is that if the person with the addictions won't accept that they have a problem, then there is little you can do to help them. In the meantime you have to pick up the peices while they let you don't again and again and deny that there is a problem. Make no mistake, people who have to live and work with addicts in this situation often need support as much as the addict in denial. I have no inside knowledge of the Stokes saga, but if he is an addict in denial then he will be badly effecting all those around him, including his team mates and other members of Hibs staff. If he is unwilling to accept there was a problem to solve, then Hibs have probably done him a favour by releasing him. I have no doubt that Anthony Stokes is a nice lad with some real problems...by all accounts, these problems have led him to continually ACT like a prick.
Getting all PC about it doesn't change things.
Peevemor
31-01-2018, 02:38 PM
Neil Lennon has been proved wrong by bringing in Anthony Stokes. He gambled and lost. He brought him in not just because of his experience and ability but also because he is a fellow country man...
:confused: What a strange thing to say. Even if he was, and he isn't, I doubt that had anything to do with it. He's hardly filled the team or his staff with Irishman (North or South) has he?
calumhibee1
31-01-2018, 02:42 PM
Have you ever dealt with a gambling addict or an alcoholic? They may need help but their actions can make them pricks, ask a few of the players at Hibs and they'l tell you how much of a dick Stokes was like, hence why he was disruptive in the dressing room and has been booted from his last 3 clubs.
Too many dewy eyed people on this forum who see Stokes as some kind of god. Fantastic individual performance on that day in May but his social life and could't give a **** attitude ultimately got him sacked, it's a sad way for his career to end at Hibs but he's only himself to blame.
You didn’t say that though, you said the kind of addiction that makes you a prick, as if having some sort of involuntary addiction automatically makes you a prick.
ahibby
31-01-2018, 02:47 PM
:confused: What a strange thing to say. Even if he was, and he isn't, I doubt that had anything to do with it. He's hardly filled the team or his staff with Irishman (North or South) has he?
No he hasn't but he did say at the time it was good for him to have him in, unless he was referring to the Celtic link and I've just taken it as the Irish link. What I mean is that he made out it was as much a comfort signing for him as a football one, that's the way I understood it. Are you saying that he was brought in only and purely for his footballing prowess because if so and you are right then that would be a worse scenario for me, someone who never thought that Anthony Stokes was what we needed.
Sir David Gray
31-01-2018, 03:01 PM
Now confirmed.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/8380
blackpoolhibs
31-01-2018, 03:18 PM
No he hasn't but he did say at the time it was good for him to have him in, unless he was referring to the Celtic link and I've just taken it as the Irish link. What I mean is that he made out it was as much a comfort signing for him as a football one, that's the way I understood it. Are you saying that he was brought in only and purely for his footballing prowess because if so and you are right then that would be a worse scenario for me, someone who never thought that Anthony Stokes was what we needed.
If i am on the receiving end of someone taking the piss out of me, i would call them a dick, irrespective on how he drinks or takes drugs or has mental problems.
Semantics shemantics
No idea why i linked you into this, the reply was for Callum. :greengrin
ahibby
31-01-2018, 03:25 PM
If i am on the receiving end of someone taking the piss out of me, i would call them a dick, irrespective on how he drinks or takes drugs or has mental problems.
Semantics shemantics
No idea why i linked you into this, the reply was for Callum. :greengrin
I didn't know about all those problems he had I just thought he was a lazy so and so who enjoyed a night out even when he shouldn't be on a night out. I don't know about addictions, thank goodness, but we all want what's best for Hibs.
You didn’t say that though, you said the kind of addiction that makes you a prick, as if having some sort of involuntary addiction automatically makes you a prick.
I think worcesterhibby summed it up by saying I should have added "act" like a prick, I honestly didn't think missing the word act would cuse you so many problems, it was plainly obvious what I was saying.
andybev1
31-01-2018, 03:45 PM
We're not talking mental health problems here, he's got gambling and drinking problems, these are more addictions than health problems and the kind of addictions that makes you a prick, ask anyone who's got friends and family with these problems, I had a mother and father who both had alcohol problems. Professional help means gong to AA and gamblers anonymous to get help.
both are not mutually exclusive
21.05.2016
31-01-2018, 04:04 PM
Wish I was in the know so I could join in this anti Stokes angry mob.
Discipline comes from the top down, the fact he wasn't the only one being daft tells me there is a problem larger than him.
Don't remember things like this happening under Stubbs. Also don't remember Stubbs missing pre season for a TV gig, partying with another Scottish team when they won a trophy or leaving our training camps for a nonsense dinner.
This isn't some anti Neil Lennon rant but he definitely has to take some responsibility for this.
Sad to see Stokes go, by miles our best player on his day and showed that many times this season. Scored some important goals and created some as well. We'll be lucky to find better.
Re Lennon leaving the abroad training camp to attend a celtic event, I don't agree with that at all and do find it a little bit disrespectful. Don't mind him attending such events in his own time, he's a celtic legend as well as fan, it's a little annoying but if it's his own time he can do what he likes. However, when he's away on a training trip with us, a trip that has been all bought and paid for by his current employers then it's not on IMO.
However, blaming him for the actions of Stokes, Swanson and Boyle whilst abroad is pretty unfair. The players are grown adults, they shouldn't have to be babysat 24/7 to stop them causing trouble. Lennon tried to treat them like adults and give them a little bit of trust. He would have been quite within his rights to tell them all that alcohol was banned altogether, after all this was a training camp to prepare for one of the biggest games of our season vs hearts of all teams, not a holiday. The three players in question took an absolute liberty and abused Lennons trust once his back was turned. As I say, they aren't children, the responsibility 100% lies with them. If we ever go abroad for training again (and btw I hope we don't as nothing good ever seems to come out of them) I fully expect Lennon will be saying no alcohol at all. Which is pretty sad that a group of grown adults can't be trusted to have just a couple of beers but evidently some folk aren't mature enough. Act like children = get treated like children.
Bad Martini
31-01-2018, 07:34 PM
Thanks for the cup final and other important goals (none as important as that day obviously).
Thats where it ends. Nobody is bigger than the club. I suspect some efforts were made to fix this mess. Who knows? Probably a 203480834 folk on here will claim to know but most wont.
Either way, its not good for us and if he has real problems, not good for him. Best action all around is for him to go, though from a selfish Hibs fan point of view, **** timing and doesn't help our cause. Didn't help us against the mutants either as his finishing would have seen them off at least twice in that game. Sad it didn't work out too.
Anyways, we go marching on.
Hibeesmad
03-02-2018, 08:52 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2179653/neil-lennon-hibs-chiefs-evacuate-anthony-stokes-fire-extinguisher-prank/amp/
Phil MaGlass
03-02-2018, 09:18 AM
i think Lennon has come out pretty well from this(IMO), he has got rid of our highest paid player who brought unrest to the team, he has shown he wont be taken for a fool and the rest of the squad has seen he wont be messed about, he has sent a strong message that only 100% and winners will be tolerated at the club, well done Lennon.
LancsHibs
03-02-2018, 09:50 AM
i think Lennon has come out pretty well from this(IMO), he has got rid of our highest paid player who brought unrest to the team, he has shown he wont be taken for a fool and the rest of the squad has seen he wont be messed about, he has sent a strong message that only 100% and winners will be tolerated at the club, well done Lennon.
That’s the way I see it too.
The massive picture of a fire extinguisher in the Sun article made me chuckle, as if we didn’t know what a fire extinguisher looked like!:hilarious
NORTHERNHIBBY
03-02-2018, 09:51 AM
Stokes was a gamble that didn't pay off. Most of us were happy to see him back. The boss almost stood as his guarantor and he must be hugely frustrated both personally and professionally. But Stokes is gone and not coming back. Need to leave this in the past and move on.
Archie70
03-02-2018, 10:06 AM
If Stokes had fulfilled his potential, knuckled down at training and gave it his all the reality is he would never have been at us and we wouldn't have won the Scottish Cup.
It was because of his issues that celtic were happy to let him go and we all reaped the rewards. So him being wasteful of his undoubted talent brought him back to us and fulfilled our dreams.
I don't think he'll ever change as he is all he'll ever be. However I wish him all the best in his future and will always be thankful to him for that day in May.
Jack Hackett
03-02-2018, 10:31 AM
That’s the way I see it too.
The massive picture of a fire extinguisher in the Sun article made me chuckle, as if we didn’t know what a fire extinguisher looked like!:hilarious
:agree:
Raised a smile. Though tbf, it was probably an education for some of their readers, and could prove to be an invaluable resource for them :greengrin
Allant1981
03-02-2018, 11:39 AM
was this really worth a sacking though? daft prank yes but there must be more to his release than this
green day
03-02-2018, 11:40 AM
was this really worth a sacking though? daft prank yes but there must be more to his release than this
Straw that broke the camel's back.
snooky
03-02-2018, 11:42 AM
That’s the way I see it too.
The massive picture of a fire extinguisher in the Sun article made me chuckle, as if we didn’t know what a fire extinguisher looked like!:hilarious
I think that was for the benefit of your average Sun reader.
Johnny Clash
03-02-2018, 11:50 AM
was this really worth a sacking though? daft prank yes but there must be more to his release than this
I think you are right. There will be more to this and the details will be kept confidential - rightly so.
One Day Soon
03-02-2018, 01:02 PM
I think you are right. There will be more to this and the details will be kept confidential - rightly so.
There is a LOT more to this.
blackpoolhibs
03-02-2018, 01:34 PM
Maybe Stokes was on fire?
Stevie Reid
03-02-2018, 01:36 PM
Maybe Stokes was on fire?
:greengrin
Coco Bryce
03-02-2018, 01:37 PM
Maybe Stokes was on fire?
He's been extinguished now.
Swedish hibee
03-02-2018, 01:59 PM
The Stokesy on fire song has been playing at ER since the final took place, ironic isn't it..
Bostonhibby
03-02-2018, 02:10 PM
That’s the way I see it too.
The massive picture of a fire extinguisher in the Sun article made me chuckle, as if we didn’t know what a fire extinguisher looked like!:hilariousBanderson is going to do an exclusive interview with a fire extinguisher later. If he can't get it to say anything bad about Hibs he'll hope to get it to say something positive about hearts starlets or how it eventually hopes to get a job as an extinguisher in the megastand.
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