View Full Version : Levein "Natural Order" statement - sectarian?
Joe Baker2
23-01-2018, 12:15 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
R'Albin
23-01-2018, 12:16 PM
:hilarious
Elephant Stone
23-01-2018, 12:19 PM
Wouldn't have thought so mate. He's still an utter prick of a man, though.
Hermit Crab
23-01-2018, 12:20 PM
Oh ffs. :rolleyes:
Baldy Foghorn
23-01-2018, 12:21 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Totally sectarian. :greengrin
Send him to Coventry, and off with his Head:aok:
RossScott1991
23-01-2018, 12:22 PM
Time to get over the derby defeat and stop coming out with such nonsense imo.
Sir David Gray
23-01-2018, 12:22 PM
20058
Geo_1875
23-01-2018, 12:25 PM
I really don't think there was anything sectarian in his comments. What he failed to mention was that they had sneaked a narrow win over Hibs and this was the natural order of things from the late 70's to the late 80's, except for the amount of times that they sneaked a draw. This natural order threatened to come back during the 90's and for a short period in the 00's but Hibs did manage to beat them on occasion. What he, and their fans, fail to remember is that when they were not expecting this natural order to be maintained they didn't bother turning up to watch. For some of their fans this means that they think they're still on an unbeaten run of 220. He's just a fanny and not brave enough to be deliberately sectarian.
IGRIGI
23-01-2018, 12:26 PM
We could hire some social justice warriors and have a field day with this on Twitter.
Mantis Toboggan
23-01-2018, 12:31 PM
We could hire some social justice warriors and have a field day with this on Twitter.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
You seem to enjoy using this phrase, despite the fact that it immediately marks you out as a bit of a clown.
Elephant Stone
23-01-2018, 12:32 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
You seem to enjoy using this phrase, despite the fact that it immediately marks you out as a bit of a clown.
Social justice is terrible eh :hilarious
The Leith Dutch
23-01-2018, 12:32 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
It really isn't.
"Natural Order" is an extremely common thing for arrogant pricks to say and I'll wager most folk wouldn't see a particular connection to NI in the 1970s.
End of the day he's a classless prick in charge of a hoofball crowd of thugs that narrowly won a match against a Hibs side who needed to deliver an astonishingly poor performance for them to get that win.
Only thing that concerns me is putting the puddle drinkers back in their box next derby.
Jones28
23-01-2018, 12:33 PM
Oh dear 😂
NAE NOOKIE
23-01-2018, 01:09 PM
FFS ...... Levin is a prick, what he said showed he is a prick with no class. But sectarian? Jeezo :faf:
Bostonhibby
23-01-2018, 01:12 PM
No way it's sectarian. I doubt he could form an opinion one way or the other unless it was the 3.40 at Kempton.
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DarlingtonHibee
23-01-2018, 01:12 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Away back to kickback...
Ozyhibby
23-01-2018, 01:17 PM
Levien’s a fanny but him gloating over a derby win is good for the game. More managers should do it.
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NAE NOOKIE
23-01-2018, 01:19 PM
Away back to kickback...
If the guy is a Yam then he needs to have a word and so do any of his puddle drinking pals who he tries to impress by showing them his 'wind up post' on Hobos . Net.
If it is a wind up attempt its a piss poor one. Sectarianism is a curse on the game in this country and anybody who tries to promote it by trying to deliberately introduce it as a factor between us and the Yams in this or any other falling out needs to stop following football altogether.
givescotlandfreedom
23-01-2018, 01:21 PM
Levein is a Hearts dick. Hates us and we hate him. I doubt there's anything sectarian there but I would be wary of taking my computer into PC World for repair if I were him.
Johnny_Leith
23-01-2018, 01:22 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
You seem to enjoy using this phrase, despite the fact that it immediately marks you out as a bit of a clown.
And your username marks you out as a top lad 😂👍 Dr mantis
JDHibs
23-01-2018, 01:24 PM
Its crap like this that ends up on the "Hibs.net Meltdown" twitter page and makes us all look like a bunch of c***s...
Please delete.
Smartie
23-01-2018, 01:25 PM
I heard that Rev Craig Levein once got caught short on 12th July and had to **** into his bowler hat.
HeidTheBaw
23-01-2018, 01:25 PM
Time to get over the derby defeat and stop coming out with such nonsense imo.
the poster has a point..there is an element amongst these morons that borders on Nazi-ism Fascist ****s
hibsbollah
23-01-2018, 01:31 PM
For the 107 guests suddenly on this thread, just remember, we're above you in the league, you've only beaten us once in the last ten attempts, and your manager specialises in hiding in dundee cludgies when his team needed him most, on Albert Kidd Day.
:flag:
Pretty Boy
23-01-2018, 01:32 PM
I heard he burst into the Hibs changing room post match on a big white charger shouted '**** the Pope and no surrender ya bams' slapped Lennon in the face, said we were all as left footed as Lewis Stevenson and left shouting we would 'never, never, never beat them again'.
HoboHarry
23-01-2018, 01:34 PM
For the 107 guests suddenly on this thread, just remember, we're above you in the league, you've only beaten us once in the last ten attempts, and your manager specialises in hiding in dundee cludgies when his team needed him most, on Walter Kidd Day.
:flag:
Walter Kidd day?
hibsbollah
23-01-2018, 01:37 PM
Walter Kidd day?
Oh dear, :faf: epic fail on my part there. Its got a nice ring to it though.
Vini1875
23-01-2018, 01:49 PM
It is not sectarian, but I think it is never too far away with them. It is a mind set of the establishment or at least council type establishment as they try to look down on us. Personally I'm glad that they think they are somehow better than us, because when we are winning it must have them suffering and unable to comprehend the world as it is. They are grey, dull men, whose only concern is making sure Hibs don't win.
It is not sectarian, but I think it is never too far away with them. It is a mind set of the establishment or at least council type establishment as they try to look down on us. Personally I'm glad that they think they are somehow better than us, because when we are winning it must have them suffering and unable to comprehend the world as it is. They are grey, dull men, whose only concern is making sure Hibs don't win.
They do sail close to the wind in their own forelock-tugging way.
A couple of their club's recent obsessions:
- McCrae's Battalion - vocally Anti-Catholic on it's inception and in it's recruitment.
- The Rosebery Family - Archibald Primrose 5th Earl of Rosebery, Head of the Orange Order in Scotland, Honorary President of Hearts and vehement Anti-Catholic, "whatever happens in Ireland is for England to decide" was one of his more considered responses on discussing Irish Home Rule whilst Prime Minister.
Chuck in a good few renditions of the Billy Boys and no response from anyone at Hearts (Budge seems to have given up) and it's a thin veneer.
Saying that I doubt Levein has the nuance or subtlety to make such a reference.
Gawd, I hate this country sometimes.
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Oh come on. No
bigwheel
23-01-2018, 02:35 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
nothing Sectarian...you are taking a leap there...just an arrogant and nasty twat....simples
Smartie
23-01-2018, 02:37 PM
Gawd, I hate this country sometimes.
The most sensible post on this utter car crash of a thread.
Keith_M
23-01-2018, 02:40 PM
He's trying to appeal to his support's inflated sense of importance and unjustified sense of superiority.
As we've seen with many statements from that club before, they're a classless club with classless people in charge.
I'm glad to say that those in charge of Hibs are above cheap digs.
But no, it's in no way sectarian.
SloopJB
23-01-2018, 02:45 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
When I heard that the statement had been made I was surprised and imagined CL taking an undeserved high and mighty stance.
When I saw it on TV I thought he was clearly joking when he said it.
It was discussed on sportsound with Tom English saying it was banter and Mickey Stewart saying it was disrespectful.
I think it was an attempt at banter but I don't think he should have said it.
Probably on a par with a player cupping an ear or taking their top off in celebration.
Roll on the Dundee game.
Iggy Pope
23-01-2018, 02:51 PM
Every single utterance out of Levein or anyone at Tynecastle I find sectarian in the extreme.
There are only two true faiths at times such as these. Hibs and theirs. The right one and the other one.
**** him, the Hearts *******!
Bostonhibby
23-01-2018, 02:51 PM
Oh dear, :faf: epic fail on my part there. Its got a nice ring to it though.Don't worry about it, we should have a Walter Kidd day. Another legend from the golden era who never won so much as a game of pontoon.
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CMurdoch
23-01-2018, 02:56 PM
What squirrels pish from 2 posters. The OP with 86 posts to his name and the other with 1
GIRUY yam idiots.
On a brighter note I do like the sound of Walter Kidd day.
Humour from wherever it comes is good.
Nasty **** is boring.
mmmmhibby
23-01-2018, 02:59 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
You seem to enjoy using this phrase, despite the fact that it immediately marks you out as a bit of a clown.
You seem to be telling this person that your views are right and his are wrong. Which means your the clown.
Mantis Toboggan
23-01-2018, 03:03 PM
You seem to be telling this person that your views are right and his are wrong. Which means your the clown.
I said nothing of the sort, I'm telling him that using an irrelevant and meaningless insult in this thread is fairly clownish.
marinello59
23-01-2018, 03:05 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Really?
Possibly the most contrived post I have seen here in a long time.
Bostonhibby
23-01-2018, 03:11 PM
Really?
Possibly the most contrived post I have see here on a long time.
Indeed, "natural order" in its simplest form means, to me, that what is meant to happen simply and spontaneously happens.
For example, right thinking people intend that a charity should receive all of it's funds immediately, a bill that is due is paid, etc
I could go on.
NAE NOOKIE
23-01-2018, 03:21 PM
Indeed, "natural order" in its simplest form means, to me, that what is meant to happen simply and spontaneously happens.
For example, right thinking people intend that a charity should receive all of it's funds immediately, a bill that is due is paid, etc
I could go on.
Now, if he had said 'new order' we could have accused him of being a fascist :greengrin
Mantis Toboggan
23-01-2018, 03:30 PM
Now, if he had said 'new order' we could have accused him of being a fascist :greengrin
Yesterday was a fairly Blue Monday right enough.
Golden Bear
23-01-2018, 03:37 PM
The most sensible post on this utter car crash of a thread.
:agree:
Utterly embarrassing OP.
hibsbollah
23-01-2018, 03:39 PM
:agree:
Utterly embarrassing OP.
...which is quite clearly someone 'at it', hence the high 'guests' count. Its just maroon tinted daftness.
HUTCHYHIBBY
23-01-2018, 04:02 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Oh FFS, Any chance of deleting this thread?
SRHibs
23-01-2018, 04:31 PM
What squirrels pish from 2 posters. The OP with 86 posts to his name and the other with 1
GIRUY yam idiots.
On a brighter note I do like the sound of Walter Kidd day.
Humour from wherever it comes is good.
Nasty **** is boring.
I can promise you 100% the poster with 1 post is certainly not a ‘Yam’.
oldbutdim
23-01-2018, 04:33 PM
I think 'natural order' is every bit as sectarian as 'hun'.
:aok:
Deansy
23-01-2018, 05:09 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Nah, Levein's 'Natural order' for him actually means 'Other People's Money'/stealing charity-money that's all he knows, it's what he was brought up with - Budgie prefers the term 'Mystery benefactor' !
WeeRussell
23-01-2018, 05:25 PM
Dear lord.
Pretty Boy
23-01-2018, 05:32 PM
Dear lord.
Dear Catholic lord or Protestant lord?
Beefster
23-01-2018, 05:36 PM
Favourite OP ever.
gillythehibby
23-01-2018, 05:37 PM
Levien's Hertz class all over so i'm glad he said it. Just makes us hate/pity them even more. These are the words of a man trying to crack jokes when he's just not funny. Thank fek we've got the Ginger felly in charge. What goes around and all that....
WeeRussell
23-01-2018, 06:06 PM
Dear Catholic lord or Protestant lord?
Away’n ***** ya bigot :)
Did I just read this all correctly??
There was me thinking Potter was talking about Star Wars but I think that’s the 1st Order.
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Jamesconnolly
23-01-2018, 07:05 PM
supremist more like
heretoday
23-01-2018, 07:09 PM
I'm grateful that Levein has shown himself to have a sense of humour after all.
Before now I thought he was the John Swinney of football.
Sammy7nil
23-01-2018, 07:11 PM
When I heard that the statement had been made I was surprised and imagined CL taking an undeserved high and mighty stance.
When I saw it on TV I thought he was clearly joking when he said it.
It was discussed on sportsound with Tom English saying it was banter and Mickey Stewart saying it was disrespectful.
I think it was an attempt at banter but I don't think he should have said it.
Probably on a par with a player cupping an ear or taking their top off in celebration.
Roll on the Dundee game.
I might be wrong but I believe he repeated it at a press conference it may be a joke once but twice ?
Lancs Harp
23-01-2018, 07:15 PM
Club 1872 have issued a statement offering their full support. :wink:
lyonhibs
23-01-2018, 07:18 PM
Sorry, But I'm old enough to remember the term "natural order" being banded about by Loyalists in Northern Ireland in the 1970's. It was deemed sectarian back then. Is this what Levein means or is it just a poor choice of words by an idiot? Either way, he needs to explain and apologise.
Oh no no no no.
Reverse, reverse!!!!
jacomo
23-01-2018, 07:48 PM
FFS ...... Levin is a prick, what he said showed he is a prick with no class. But sectarian? Jeezo :faf:
He’s a diet hun sectarian prick.
:wink:
Billychaotic182
23-01-2018, 07:49 PM
Aw ffs. Please don’t take it there to try and point score. How pathetic!
Jones28
23-01-2018, 08:15 PM
Where's the OP to argue the case further?
Now, if he had said 'new order' we could have accused him of being a fascist :greengrin
I don't agree with the Op but funnily enough, if you Google the phrase "the natural order of things" and Hitler you do get results with a quote attributed to him about religion.
"Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things..."
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Is It On....
24-01-2018, 01:50 AM
For the 107 guests suddenly on this thread, just remember, we're above you in the league, you've only beaten us once in the last ten attempts, and your manager specialises in hiding in dundee cludgies when his team needed him most, on Albert Kidd Day.
:flag:
I remember hearing that Kidd had scored and was gutted...only to be corrected seconds later 😂
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