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DavidDavidGray
21-01-2018, 07:12 PM
Dundee Away, Celtic Away, Motherwell at Home, Rangers Away And Aberdeen at Home.

If we fail to win any of these, which is a possibility as we only won one of the original games against these teams, it would be 2 wins out of our last 15. Need to bounce back from today’s result quickly and make sure that we are still in contention for 3rd at the end of these 5 games.

S4uzee
21-01-2018, 07:14 PM
3 points if we’re lucky

murray26
21-01-2018, 07:15 PM
Jeez that’s tough but it could be a good thing.. top 4 would still be amazing so let’s see what happens

calumhibee1
21-01-2018, 07:15 PM
Dundee Away, Celtic Away, Motherwell at Home, Rangers Away And Aberdeen at Home.

If we fail to win any of these, which is a possibility as we never won the original games against these teams, it would be 2 wins out of our last 15. Need to bounce back from today’s result quickly and make sure that we are still in contention for 3rd at the end of these 5 games.

Dundee and Motherwell should be wins. The other 3 we'll be lucky to get a point from, possibly against Aberdeen IMO.

murray26
21-01-2018, 07:16 PM
Looking at that again 4 points would be nice lol 😂

ekhibee
21-01-2018, 07:17 PM
Dundee Away, Celtic Away, Motherwell at Home, Rangers Away And Aberdeen at Home.

If we fail to win any of these, which is a possibility as we never won the original games against these teams, it would be 2 wins out of our last 15. Need to bounce back from today’s result quickly and make sure that we are still in contention for 3rd at the end of these 5 games.
We beat Rangers at Ibrox first game of the season, not sure what you mean by 'original.'

DavidDavidGray
21-01-2018, 07:19 PM
We beat Rangers at Ibrox first game of the season, not sure what you mean by 'original.'

Ah yes you’re right. I’ll edit it now as made a mistake there. By original I mean the last game at that ground eg Dundee Away 1-1 Motherwell at Home 2-2

ekhibee
21-01-2018, 07:29 PM
Ah yes you’re right. I’ll edit it now as made a mistake there. By original I mean the last game at that ground eg Dundee Away 1-1 Motherwell at Home 2-2
No probs mate, it's a fair point you're making too.

DavidDavidGray
21-01-2018, 07:43 PM
IF we don’t win any of the next 5, should questions start being asked of Lennon? I have confidence in him, however if it gets to 2 or 3 wins out of the last 15 then surely the questions must be asked?

Borderhibbie76
22-01-2018, 04:22 PM
IF we don’t win any of the next 5, should questions start being asked of Lennon? I have confidence in him, however if it gets to 2 or 3 wins out of the last 15 then surely the questions must be asked?How about we cross that bridge IF we come to it ah??

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DavidDavidGray
22-01-2018, 04:52 PM
How about we cross that bridge IF we come to it ah??

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Was simply posing the question. I’m a fan of Lennon and think he’s done really well with us.

IGRIGI
22-01-2018, 04:55 PM
Dundee and Motherwell are must win,anything else is a bonus.

GreenNWhiteArmy
22-01-2018, 04:59 PM
10 points. **** your negativity

A win in Dundee. Home wins against the sheep and Motherwell then a point from one our trips to the ugly sisters.

GGTTH

Hermit Crab
22-01-2018, 05:03 PM
The OP is getting some stick but he makes a fair point. If we fail to win or take any points over the next 5 games we’re in deep farm animal dung! Will people still be backing Lennon in a little over 2 weeks time if we don’t get any positive results from these games?


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Ardenttwo
22-01-2018, 05:31 PM
3 points if we’re lucky

A draw against Murderwell Lose the rest

DavidDavidGray
22-01-2018, 05:44 PM
10 points. **** your negativity

A win in Dundee. Home wins against the sheep and Motherwell then a point from one our trips to the ugly sisters.

GGTTH
Negativity? Simply stating what is a realistic possibility. I’ve already stated twice on this thread that I’m a Lennon fan, however facts are facts and we’ve won 2 out of our last 10 games which is not good enough and it’s a very challenging run of games coming up. Do I have faith in Lennon to tie it around? Definitely. No need for that negativity comment.

Ronniekirk
22-01-2018, 06:00 PM
The OP is getting some stick but he makes a fair point. If we fail to win or take any points over the next 5 games we’re in deep farm animal dung! Will people still be backing Lennon in a little over 2 weeks time if we don’t get any positive results from these games?


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Unless there was a complete meltdown in Portugal by the squad and Management ,there is no chance we wont win one of our next five fixtures and at least draw another ,and that would be a minimum expectation



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Famous Fiver
22-01-2018, 06:09 PM
Top six finish should be the target for first year in the Premier League. Europe a bonus.

Let's not look at the next five in isolation, we'll be better placed to judge at the end of the season.

If, according to the doom mongers on here, we crash and burn, who do we need to get us out of the Championship?

I give you Neil Lennon, who won it for us last year.

My opinion is let the man get on with it without constant sniping. Get behind the man and the club.

Lago
22-01-2018, 06:10 PM
10 points. **** your negativity

A win in Dundee. Home wins against the sheep and Motherwell then a point from one our trips to the ugly sisters.

GGTTH
There's optimism, realisim and wishful thinking.

Pretty Boy
22-01-2018, 06:12 PM
Games we just need to get through, and both Motherwell and Dundee are winnable, then we have a pretty decent 6 game run to the split.

I'll go DLWLD so 5 points.

DavidDavidGray
22-01-2018, 06:20 PM
Top six finish should be the target for first year in the Premier League. Europe a bonus.

Let's not look at the next five in isolation, we'll be better placed to judge at the end of the season.

If, according to the doom mongers on here, we crash and burn, who do we need to get us out of the Championship?

I give you Neil Lennon, who won it for us last year.

My opinion is let the man get on with it without constant sniping. Get behind the man and the club.

Doom mongers? I’ve stated multiple times, twice on this thread alone, that I’m a fan of Lennon and have faith in him. Don’t see how being concerned about 2 wins out of 10 makes me a doom monger though. Been nothing but supportive of Lennon.

Diclonius
22-01-2018, 06:22 PM
Dundee and Motherwell are must-wins. We can write off Celtic, and a point at Rangers would be a good result. The home game v Aberdeen is extremely important as to how our season turns out.

Curly1875
22-01-2018, 06:25 PM
Dundee and Motherwell are must-wins. We can write off Celtic, and a point at Rangers would be a good result. The home game v Aberdeen is extremely important as to how our season turns out.

Celtic should not be a write off by any means, they are absolutely beatable.

I mean ffs hearts hammered them!

GreenNWhiteArmy
22-01-2018, 07:02 PM
Negativity? Simply stating what is a realistic possibility. I’ve already stated twice on this thread that I’m a Lennon fan, however facts are facts and we’ve won 2 out of our last 10 games which is not good enough and it’s a very challenging run of games coming up. Do I have faith in Lennon to tie it around? Definitely. No need for that negativity comment.

We've taken 4 points in glasgow, taken 4 points from each of Motherwell and Dundee and should have beaten Aberdeen at home.

Our recent form is relatively poor but we've shown before we can go on a run of decent form.

Since losing to Celtic in the league cup we've

Won 6 league games
Drawn 4 leagues games
Lost 3 league games
Lost 1 Scottish cup game

Not really that bad is it?

Borderhibbie76
22-01-2018, 07:37 PM
We've taken 4 points in glasgow, taken 4 points from each of Motherwell and Dundee and should have beaten Aberdeen at home.

Our recent form is relatively poor but we've shown before we can go on a run of decent form.

Since losing to Celtic in the league cup we've

Won 6 league games
Drawn 4 leagues games
Lost 3 league games
Lost 1 Scottish cup game

Not really that bad is it?Doesn't fit in with the doom-mongers on here tho mate does it....had we not lost that scrappy late goal yesterday this place would be very different today. It's amazing what 1 bad result does...all of a sudden we r gonna plummet down the division

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Pretty Boy
22-01-2018, 07:53 PM
Doesn't fit in with the doom-mongers on here tho mate does it....had we not lost that scrappy late goal yesterday this place would be very different today. It's amazing what 1 bad result does...all of a sudden we r gonna plummet down the division

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Is it not more the case that yesterdays result has brought a poor run of form stretching back a couple of months and 10 games into sharper focus rather than a knee jerk reaction?

I've certainly seem some hysterical stuff but I've also seen a lot of valid points, positive and negative, over the last 24 hours.

SeanWilson
22-01-2018, 07:54 PM
Dundee Away, Celtic Away, Motherwell at Home, Rangers Away And Aberdeen at Home.

If we fail to win any of these, which is a possibility as we only won one of the original games against these teams, it would be 2 wins out of our last 15. Need to bounce back from today’s result quickly and make sure that we are still in contention for 3rd at the end of these 5 games.

Dundee a 3, Celtic 1, Motherwell 3, rangers 3, Aberdeen 1

Totally doable.

B.H.F.C
22-01-2018, 07:55 PM
Top six finish should be the target for first year in the Premier League.

Not when you are sitting in 4th at this stage of the season, with a decent gap to 5th. To merely finish in the top 6 now would be a disappointing season, especially having been knocked out of the Scottish by that lot.

Borderhibbie76
22-01-2018, 08:02 PM
Is it not more the case that yesterdays result has brought a poor run of form stretching back a couple of months and 10 games into sharper focus rather than a knee jerk reaction?

I've certainly seem some hysterical stuff but I've also seen a lot of valid points, positive and negative, over the last 24 hours.There are issues I'm not denying it...I've also posted querying what Lennon was thinking about with that line up yesterday and I am concerned at his signings to date. But people claiming what will happen when we lose next 5 games...can we just not wait and give the manager and team a chance to turn it around first

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Stuart93
22-01-2018, 08:05 PM
Not when you are sitting in 4th at this stage of the season, with a decent gap to 5th. To merely finish in the top 6 now would be a disappointing season, especially having been knocked out of the Scottish by that lot.

Agree with this. When you see the rest of the quality in the league we really should be finishing 4th, 5th at absolute worst.

I keep seeing the excuse "first time back in the top flight" which would suggest we'll add to the squad to build on it...however I'm not overly confident of adding better players to our team than we have.

Jones28
22-01-2018, 08:05 PM
Dundee a 3, Celtic 1, Motherwell 3, rangers 3, Aberdeen 1

Totally doable.

Sorry mate but you're dreaming if you think that's realistic given our form.

Ardenttwo
22-01-2018, 08:07 PM
3 points if we’re lucky

A draw against Murderwell Lose the rest

Pretty Boy
22-01-2018, 08:11 PM
There are issues I'm not denying it...I've also posted querying what Lennon was thinking about with that line up yesterday and I am concerned at his signings to date. But people claiming what will happen when we lose next 5 games...can we just not wait and give the manager and team a chance to turn it around first

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I broadly agree.

Certainly not calling for the manager to go and I'm sure we will win at least 1 of the next 5.

Borderhibbie76
22-01-2018, 08:13 PM
I broadly agree.

Certainly not calling for the manager to go and I'm sure we will win at least 1 of the next 5.Let's hope so as we all need a lift from the current gloom

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California-Hibs
22-01-2018, 10:24 PM
7 points.

SeanWilson
23-01-2018, 07:37 AM
Sorry mate but you're dreaming if you think that's realistic given our form.

Yes, however beat Dundee in a decent performance and manage points at parkhead and you'd be confident in a performance against Motherwell and anything can happen at Ibrox. Form is temporary and as much as folk are reacting like we've just been relegated again (we are 4th and competing well as a top 4 side over the piece), I actually believe in our current setup and have total faith that Lennon will have them right up for this next match.

Steve20
23-01-2018, 07:41 AM
We'll beat Motherwell, draw with Dundee and Rangers and lose to Celtic and Aberdeen.

Heisenberg
23-01-2018, 07:50 AM
That’s a tough run of fixtures, especially off the back of playing the Huns, Celtc and Aberdeen consecutively in December.

Cabbage East
23-01-2018, 08:02 AM
The hysteria on here. Can everyone calm down?

Hermit Crab
23-01-2018, 11:36 AM
Next 5 games.

Dundee away - very winnable match, show the right attitude and we should come away with something from the game. Dundee have won 4 of their last 10 games conceding 7 goals and scoring 12. Prediction, score draw

Celtic away - I think we all know whats coming, it could be a really bad day and we would really need to be at our absolute best to take something from the game, defending needs to improve for starters. Prediction, home win

Motherwell home - imo our best chance of 3 points, Motherwell are a bit hot and cold just now and having not lost to them this season and them having lost Moult we should have enough to beat them at home, although Cifti is a decent replacement for Moult. Prediction, home win

The Rangers away - lets not kid ourselves, they really have improved and signed well this window, on a decent run just now and we will be really up against it at Ibrox although Lennon does like a trip through there. Prediction, home win.

Aberdeen home - A team we've barely laid a glove on this season, full of good players and seem to have never-ending money to spend on transfers. GMS destroyed us twice already this season. Prediction, away win.

lyonhibs
23-01-2018, 11:46 AM
5 or maaaaaybe 6 points from those games IMO.

Tornadoes70
23-01-2018, 11:48 AM
Next 5 games.

Dundee away - very winnable match, show the right attitude and we should come away with something from the game. Dundee have won 4 of their last 10 games conceding 7 goals and scoring 12. Prediction, score draw

Celtic away - I think we all know whats coming, it could be a really bad day and we would really need to be at our absolute best to take something from the game, defending needs to improve for starters. Prediction, home win

Motherwell home - imo our best chance of 3 points, Motherwell are a bit hot and cold just now and having not lost to them this season and them having lost Moult we should have enough to beat them at home, although Cifti is a decent replacement for Moult. Prediction, home win

The Rangers away - lets not kid ourselves, they really have improved and signed well this window, on a decent run just now and we will be really up against it at Ibrox although Lennon does like a trip through there. Prediction, home win.

Aberdeen home - A team we've barely laid a glove on this season, full of good players and seem to have never-ending money to spend on transfers. GMS destroyed us twice already this season. Prediction, away win.

Certainly a challenging run of games coming up and this is where we find out the character of the team. We're sitting in a decent position in the league and these are the type of games players should relish. What they would certainly appreciate though is us supporters giving them our loud vocal backing in these matches and focus on looking forward. Bring it on.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

hibbysam
23-01-2018, 12:05 PM
Next 5 games.

Dundee away - very winnable match, show the right attitude and we should come away with something from the game. Dundee have won 4 of their last 10 games conceding 7 goals and scoring 12. Prediction, score draw

Celtic away - I think we all know whats coming, it could be a really bad day and we would really need to be at our absolute best to take something from the game, defending needs to improve for starters. Prediction, home win

Motherwell home - imo our best chance of 3 points, Motherwell are a bit hot and cold just now and having not lost to them this season and them having lost Moult we should have enough to beat them at home, although Cifti is a decent replacement for Moult. Prediction, home win

The Rangers away - lets not kid ourselves, they really have improved and signed well this window, on a decent run just now and we will be really up against it at Ibrox although Lennon does like a trip through there. Prediction, home win.

Aberdeen home - A team we've barely laid a glove on this season, full of good players and seem to have never-ending money to spend on transfers. GMS destroyed us twice already this season. Prediction, away win.

We need a minimum of 6 points which would keep us above hearts after them. We would then need to take advantage of them having a difficult run in while we have more winnable games.

Lancs Harp
23-01-2018, 07:17 PM
15 points there, no bother.

We are Hibs we rule supreme.

:flag:

Gmack7
23-01-2018, 08:45 PM
with the Huns playing with the sheep a win tomorrow night gets us back in the mix further up .hibs and Hamilton double

SJNB Hibby
02-02-2018, 12:51 PM
Thought I'd bump this thread. Most were $h!tt!ng themselves, but so far 6 points with a narrow lose to Celtic

ajf
02-02-2018, 09:42 PM
Thought I'd bump this thread. Most were $h!tt!ng themselves, but so far 6 points with a narrow lose to Celtic
Yes ! And if McGregor makes it I'm confident of getting something from tomorrows game and we'll beat Aberdeen in a fortnight , minimum 9 possibly 10 points
:nlgwa:nlgwa

GreenNWhiteArmy
02-02-2018, 09:49 PM
Yes ! And if McGregor makes it I'm confident of getting something from tomorrows game and we'll beat Aberdeen in a fortnight , minimum 9 possibly 10 points
:nlgwa:nlgwa

I said 10 points before Dundee, 4 points short with 2 to play.

To be fair, some of the predictions were quite frankly embarrassing

Hibbyradge
02-02-2018, 10:25 PM
I said 10 points before Dundee, 4 points short with 2 to play.

To be fair, some of the predictions were quite frankly embarrassing

Predictions made you feel embarrassed?

Isn't that a bit, well, odd?

DavidDavidGray
02-02-2018, 10:33 PM
What on earth was I worried about?

Heisenberg
03-02-2018, 01:19 AM
3rd in the form table over the last 6 matches. Nothing to worry about whatsoever.

green day
03-02-2018, 03:53 PM
No bad so far !!

hibbie02
03-02-2018, 04:03 PM
Sorry mate but you're dreaming if you think that's realistic given our form.

Maybe want to revisit your assessment? :greengrin

lord bunberry
03-02-2018, 04:06 PM
Maybe want to revisit your assessment? :greengrin
:tee hee::tee hee:

Franck Stanton
03-02-2018, 04:13 PM
Dundee a 3, Celtic 1, Motherwell 3, rangers 3, Aberdeen 1

Totally doable.

No' a bad prediction, only one game out so far.

PS - Care to share your lottery numbers ?

DavidDavidGray
17-02-2018, 04:38 PM
What was I worried about 😬

Baw187
17-02-2018, 04:42 PM
What was I worried about [emoji51]

Done us out of a point![emoji16]

Silversand
17-02-2018, 04:43 PM
12 points from 15 out of these games is a great return.

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IGRIGI
17-02-2018, 05:24 PM
Panic Merchants.

YehButNoBut
17-02-2018, 05:30 PM
Our games up to the split are all winnable, 6 out of 6 wins would surely put us in at least 3rd and near 2nd.

Away to Killie
Home to Hamilton
Home to Hearts
Away to St Johnstone
Home to Partick
Away to Ross County

Toughest may be next week but hopefully momentum from last 2 games will see us through.

Silky
17-02-2018, 07:34 PM
Sorry mate but you're dreaming if you think that's realistic given our form.

That was some dream he had. How did you know?

Silky
17-02-2018, 07:38 PM
There's optimism, realisim and wishful thinking.

Realism would have done!

StevieCowan
17-02-2018, 07:39 PM
IF we don’t win any of the next 5, should questions start being asked of Lennon? I have confidence in him, however if it gets to 2 or 3 wins out of the last 15 then surely the questions must be asked?

😂😂😂

NORTHERNHIBBY
17-02-2018, 07:49 PM
Our games up to the split are all winnable, 6 out of 6 wins would surely put us in at least 3rd and near 2nd.

Away to Killie
Home to Hamilton
Home to Hearts
Away to St Johnstone
Home to Partick
Away to Ross County

Toughest may be next week but hopefully momentum from last 2 games will see us through.


The hardest game will be away to Killie but what a boost we will get if we win that one.

wookie70
17-02-2018, 08:29 PM
Kilmarnock will be tough on the astro given their form, Hearts are stuffy but we should have too much for them and the other 4 games are against the 4 bottom teams in the league. Hamilton, St Johnstone, Ross County and the Jags will most likely be fighting for their lives but we will be favourites in at least 5 of the next 6 games. The Rangers and the Dandy Dons have a very similar run of fixtures so if we want to stay in contention for an automatic slot into Europe then we will have to get a good haul of points.

SeanWilson
19-02-2018, 08:01 AM
Sorry mate but you're dreaming if you think that's realistic given our form.

Didn't dream big enough 😀🍺 predictions after that yam loss were woeful.

SeanWilson
19-02-2018, 08:04 AM
No' a bad prediction, only one game out so far.

PS - Care to share your lottery numbers ?

Sadly, given my gambling record, you'd be better off betting blind 🤣
Gladly, however; knew it then and I know it now, NL is class and we're so much better than that ***** game, which everyone decided the rest of our season on...

GGTTH

timewilltell
19-02-2018, 08:41 AM
3 points if we’re lucky


I make that 12....

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 04:27 PM
Can this go in the vault as the definitive knee-jerk reaction thread?!

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 04:52 PM
Can this go in the vault as the definitive knee-jerk reaction thread?!

It wasn’t really knee jerk though, we were fairly garbage for over a month and on paper it was a very tough run. Just glad we managed to address it and go on an outstanding run which should guarantee us at least 4th.

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 07:21 PM
It wasn’t really knee jerk though, we were fairly garbage for over a month and on paper it was a very tough run. Just glad we managed to address it and go on an outstanding run which should guarantee us at least 4th.

It was complete knee jerk and we weren't garbage (and it was after our first game in three weeks) - we haven't been garbage all season. It was just a spell where we'd had too many draws.

blackpoolhibs
19-02-2018, 07:25 PM
It was complete knee jerk and we weren't garbage (and it was after our first game in three weeks) - we haven't been garbage all season. It was just a spell where we'd had too many draws.

Exactly, if anyone thinks we've been garbage at any time this season, they have not watched us for very long.

Billy Whizz
19-02-2018, 07:36 PM
Exactly, if anyone thinks we've been garbage at any time this season, they have not watched us for very long.

Can’t agree more, much higher standard of player now, than we’ve had since around 2007

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 07:42 PM
It was complete knee jerk and we weren't garbage (and it was after our first game in three weeks) - we haven't been garbage all season. It was just a spell where we'd had too many draws.

We barely looked like scoring, we only won 1 in 7, behind the scenes it was a fiasco. Couple that with the run that was coming and it wasn’t knee jerk and completely understandable.

Thankfully we recruited well and have went on an outstanding run.

Also you say a ‘spell’ but we were drawing too many games all season, but during this ‘spell’ we actually started losing games.

DavidDavidGray
19-02-2018, 08:12 PM
It was complete knee jerk and we weren't garbage (and it was after our first game in three weeks) - we haven't been garbage all season. It was just a spell where we'd had too many draws.

We had won 2 games in 10 and the Stokes situation was still unresolved, definitely not knee jerk. Was a very tough run of fixtures and we have done extremely well to win 4 out of 5. Looks stupid in hindsight but at the time was 100% not knee jerk.

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 08:22 PM
We barely looked like scoring, we only won 1 in 7, behind the scenes it was a fiasco. Couple that with the run that was coming and it wasn’t knee jerk and completely understandable.

Thankfully we recruited well and have went on an outstanding run.

Also you say a ‘spell’ but we were drawing too many games all season, but during this ‘spell’ we actually started losing games.

We scored in every game bar one of that supposedly bad run, and by the end of it we were at the end of January and had lost five league games.

We suffered from not putting teams away and having Celtic, Ranges and Aberdeen in the space of 6 days.

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 08:26 PM
We had won 2 games in 10 and the Stokes situation was still unresolved, definitely not knee jerk. Was a very tough run of fixtures and we have done extremely well to win 4 out of 5. Looks stupid in hindsight but at the time was 100% not knee jerk.

It was knee jerk. We were comfortably 4th in the league and only lost 5 times at that point. We had only won two out of ten, but had only lost three out of ten. Shocker against Aberdeen, last minute defeat to St. Johnstone, and we somehow lost to Rangers despite murdering them.

Was a complete knee jerk to the Hearts defeat.

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 08:30 PM
We scored in every game bar one of that supposedly bad run, and by the end of it we were at the end of January and had lost five league games.

We suffered from not putting teams away and having Celtic, Ranges and Aberdeen in the space of 6 days.

Your last point, those three teams were part of this run we just had, apart from playing the old firm away rather than at home, so I’m struggling to see how it’s knee jerk to suggest those results could be mirrored.

We had only lost 5 games, but had lost 3 in 7 games, and only won 1, so again not knee jerk but basing it on current form. The same way a lot of people now suggest we’ll win 5/6 of our next 6.

DavidDavidGray
19-02-2018, 08:36 PM
It was knee jerk. We were comfortably 4th in the league and only lost 5 times at that point. We had only won two out of ten, but had only lost three out of ten. Shocker against Aberdeen, last minute defeat to St. Johnstone, and we somehow lost to Rangers despite murdering them.

Was a complete knee jerk to the Hearts defeat.

Whatever you say mate

Borderhibbie76
19-02-2018, 08:44 PM
We barely looked like scoring, we only won 1 in 7, behind the scenes it was a fiasco. Couple that with the run that was coming and it wasn’t knee jerk and completely understandable.

Thankfully we recruited well and have went on an outstanding run.

Also you say a ‘spell’ but we were drawing too many games all season, but during this ‘spell’ we actually started losing games.We lost to rangers and Aberdeen...hardly crime of the century and Aberdeen apart we were never garbage

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Jones28
19-02-2018, 08:45 PM
😂😂😂Christ I'm going to stop trying to predict the future

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 08:48 PM
Your last point, those three teams were part of this run we just had, apart from playing the old firm away rather than at home, so I’m struggling to see how it’s knee jerk to suggest those results could be mirrored.

We had only lost 5 games, but had lost 3 in 7 games, and only won 1, so again not knee jerk but basing it on current form. The same way a lot of people now suggest we’ll win 5/6 of our next 6.

That's a fair point re: the mirroring of the fixtures certainly. Though given that we'd already won at Ibrox, taken a point at Celtic Park and only narrowly lost to Aberdeen at ER, people could've shown a bit more faith. Dundee away and Motherwell at home should always have looked winnable for us.

SeanWilson
19-02-2018, 08:57 PM
Whatever you say mate

He's absolutely spot on. We were a comfortable 4th having looked competitive against everyone around us bar the battering in Aberdeen... the cup game was a shocker but not season defining, as has been proven in the subsequent 5 games. Onwards and upwards!
GGTTH

Wilson
19-02-2018, 09:08 PM
He's absolutely spot on. We were a comfortable 4th having looked competitive against everyone around us bar the battering in Aberdeen... the cup game was a shocker but not season defining, as has been proven in the subsequent 5 games. Onwards and upwards!
GGTTH

Looking competitive doesn't keep you in 4th though. Only results do. Playing teams off the park doesn't matter if you don't win the games.

There was a point where, bar a couple of games we let slip, we could have been second. The fact we had stopped talking about second and became fixated on our comfortable fourth is testament to the drop off in form.

It is not the worst crisis if we are at the right end of the table and are playing well. However, if the management and players set a high standard of performances and results, as they should, then it should be expected that questions are asked when the results aren't coming.

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 09:15 PM
Looking competitive doesn't keep you in 4th though. Only results do. Playing teams off the park doesn't matter if you don't win the games.

There was a point where, bar a couple of games we let slip, we could have been second. The fact we had stopped talking about second and became fixated on our comfortable fourth is testament to the drop off in form.

It is not the worst crisis if we are at the right end of the table and are playing well. However, if the management and players set a high standard of performances and results, as they should, then it should be expected that questions are asked when the results aren't coming.

The results at the time still had us comfortably in 4th though, with the performance levels pointing to an improvement, rather than a continued decline, being more likely.

Lennon and the players have indeed set a very high standard. As the spell being referred to was the first bit of real adversity we had faced since he took over (and still wasn't that bad), a bit more faith from the support (on here) was justified.

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 09:20 PM
The results at the time still had us comfortably in 4th though, with the performance levels pointing to an improvement, rather than a continued decline, being more likely.

Lennon and the players have indeed set a very high standard. As the spell being referred to was the first bit of real adversity we had faced since he took over (and still wasn't that bad), a bit more faith from the support (on here) was justified.

We weren’t ‘comfortably’ in 4th. Hearts were on a great run, and we’re gaining on us week on week, down to around 4/5 points. We were slipping further from 2nd/3rd, and falling closer to hearts who had their tails up. It was perfectly reasonable to be worried about the next set of, extremely difficult, fixtures.

As said, thankfully January was very good recruitment wise, and we turned the corner, but it wasn’t knee jerk based on one cup defeat.

Stuart93
19-02-2018, 09:20 PM
Enjoyed reading this thread back, apart from a few very optimistic posters nobody really gave us much chance of picking up any more than 6 points max from the five games, footballs a funny old game. We must be one of the most unpredictable teams on the planet and I love it.

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 09:21 PM
Enjoyed reading this thread back, apart from a few very optimistic posters nobody really gave us much chance of picking up any more than 6 points max from the five games, footballs a funny old game. We must be one of the most unpredictable teams on the planet and I love it.

What supporting Hibs is all about and makes us so entertaining.

Stuart93
19-02-2018, 09:27 PM
What supporting Hibs is all about and makes us so entertaining.

Correct sir

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 10:02 PM
We weren’t ‘comfortably’ in 4th. Hearts were on a great run, and we’re gaining on us week on week, down to around 4/5 points. We were slipping further from 2nd/3rd, and falling closer to hearts who had their tails up. It was perfectly reasonable to be worried about the next set of, extremely difficult, fixtures.

As said, thankfully January was very good recruitment wise, and we turned the corner, but it wasn’t knee jerk based on one cup defeat.

Being 5 points clear in 4th isn't comfortably in 4th place? And it wasn't too bad above us - whilst losing to Rangers and Aberdeen directly didn't help us obviously, during the same time period we are taking about, in the space of a month Rangers lost to Dundee, St. Johnstone, Killie and Hamilton.

Aberdeen certainly benefitted a bit, they won three in a row in December, but had lost to Rangers (twice) and Celtic on either side of those wins, they drew against Hearts too.

Below us, Hearts have lost one game in 17 and are still nine behind us. Motherwell have barely won a game in months. Only Killie have been in good form.

We were comfortably in 4th when the winter break kicked in. Given the upshot of the Portugal trip, the Hearts game in the SC just came too early for us, unfortunately.

We haven't been below 4th since the end of October, and the first run of fixtures was done.

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 10:20 PM
Being 5 points clear in 4th isn't comfortably in 4th place? And it wasn't too bad above us - whilst losing to Rangers and Aberdeen directly didn't help us obviously, during the same time period we are taking about, in the space of a month Rangers lost to Dundee, St. Johnstone, Killie and Hamilton.

Aberdeen certainly benefitted a bit, they won three in a row in December, but had lost to Rangers (twice) and Celtic on either side of those wins, they drew against Hearts too.

Below us, Hearts have lost one game in 17 and are still nine behind us. Motherwell have barely won a game in months. Only Killie have been in good form.

We were comfortably in 4th when the winter break kicked in. Given the upshot of the Portugal trip, the Hearts game in the SC just came too early for us, unfortunately.

We haven't been below 4th since the end of October, and the first run of fixtures was done.

No, 5 points isn’t comfortable when you were 11 ahead a matter of weeks before hand. No matter how you paint it we had slipped 10 points, I think, behind Aberdeen at one stage, and we’re being dragged closer to hearts who were starting to look resurgent.

It’s easy to say now that we’re 9 ahead, but at the time of printing our lead over hearts had halved and we had surrendered meekly in the cup.

If you ask now are we comfortable, of course we are, but like I say that’s after this outstanding run that was very hard to see coming.

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 10:26 PM
No, 5 points isn’t comfortable when you were 11 ahead a matter of weeks before hand. No matter how you paint it we had slipped 10 points, I think, behind Aberdeen at one stage, and we’re being dragged closer to hearts who were starting to look resurgent.

It’s easy to say now that we’re 9 ahead, but at the time of printing our lead over hearts had halved and we had surrendered meekly in the cup.

If you ask now are we comfortable, of course we are, but like I say that’s after this outstanding run that was very hard to see coming.

We didn't surrender meekly in the cup, we certainly didn't play well, but we were competitive and battled gamely. We lost a tight game one nil, to a very fortunate goal - albeit Hearts were definitely the better team in the second half.

At the time of that game we were five points clear in fourth and only Celtic had lost less games than us. The run that's been talked about is nowhere near as bad as has been made out.

I think 8 was the most Aberdeen have been ahead. Hearts actually narrowed the gap to three points with their win over Celtic, but we had extended it to five again by the next fixtures.

Mikey09
19-02-2018, 10:39 PM
No, 5 points isn’t comfortable when you were 11 ahead a matter of weeks before hand. No matter how you paint it we had slipped 10 points, I think, behind Aberdeen at one stage, and we’re being dragged closer to hearts who were starting to look resurgent.

It’s easy to say now that we’re 9 ahead, but at the time of printing our lead over hearts had halved and we had surrendered meekly in the cup.

If you ask now are we comfortable, of course we are, but like I say that’s after this outstanding run that was very hard to see coming.

Do you really believe this?

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 10:41 PM
We didn't surrender meekly in the cup, we certainly didn't play well, but we were competitive and battled gamely. We lost a tight game one nil, to a very fortunate goal - albeit Hearts were definitely the better team in the second half.

At the time of that game we were five points clear in fourth and only Celtic had lost less games than us. The run that's been talked about is nowhere near as bad as has been made out.

I think 8 was the most Aberdeen have been ahead. Hearts actually narrowed the gap to three points with their win over Celtic, but we had extended it to five again by the next fixtures.

1 win in 7 and out the cup to hearts is fairly poor stuff.

At the start of December we beat Partick to go 1 behind Aberdeen and 11 clear of hearts.

After the cup game we were 8 behind the dons and 5 ahead of hearts. To me that clearly shows we were in poor form and others around were closing the gap and pulling away. We then lost in the cup. Still can’t believ that you think it was one game (in the cup) and knee jerk to think we may struggle with the fixtures we had.

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 10:45 PM
Do you really believe this?

Yes, we were piss poor that day, we created very little (think Boyle missed a great chance and hit one straight at the keeper) against a poor hearts side. We didn’t impose ourselves at all on the game and the shenanigans from the camp looked as if it had a huge bearing.

Stevie Reid
19-02-2018, 10:55 PM
1 win in 7 and out the cup to hearts is fairly poor stuff.

At the start of December we beat Partick to go 1 behind Aberdeen and 11 clear of hearts.

After the cup game we were 8 behind the dons and 5 ahead of hearts. To me that clearly shows we were in poor form and others around were closing the gap and pulling away. We then lost in the cup. Still can’t believ that you think it was one game (in the cup) and knee jerk to think we may struggle with the fixtures we had.

I'm defending the situation as resolutely now as I was immediately after the Hearts game. I have had faith in this team for a long time, and we've played well in the vast majority of games this season - allied to that, I'm realistic enough to know that in our first season back in the SPL, we'd have the odd sticky patch.

We were never in crisis, and I never thought one was likely.

hibbysam
19-02-2018, 11:00 PM
I'm defending the situation as resolutely now as I was immediately after the Hearts game. I have had faith in this team for a long time, and we've played well in the vast majority of games this season - allied to that, I'm realistic enough to know that in our first season back in the SPL, we'd have the odd sticky patch.

We were never in crisis, and I never thought one was likely.

You said it was knee jerk which means it was based on one game. Stats clearly show our form had dipped for a month before that. If I was gambling based on our fixtures, going by our form, the fixtures coming and our previous post Xmas performances, along with the unsettled nature of our off field issues then I’m afraid the money would be going on a poorish run.

As it is I’m delighted it never materialised and we have stabilised our season again, but the knee jerk comment clearly wasn’t right whether you had faith or not.

SeanWilson
19-02-2018, 11:18 PM
You said it was knee jerk which means it was based on one game. Stats clearly show our form had dipped for a month before that. If I was gambling based on our fixtures, going by our form, the fixtures coming and our previous post Xmas performances, along with the unsettled nature of our off field issues then I’m afraid the money would be going on a poorish run.

As it is I’m delighted it never materialised and we have stabilised our season again, but the knee jerk comment clearly wasn’t right whether you had faith or not.

The reactions were absolutely knee jerk post that one game. If you've watched us week in/out this season I don't know how you'd see otherwise.

JimBHibees
20-02-2018, 07:10 AM
We didn't surrender meekly in the cup, we certainly didn't play well, but we were competitive and battled gamely. We lost a tight game one nil, to a very fortunate goal - albeit Hearts were definitely the better team in the second half.

At the time of that game we were five points clear in fourth and only Celtic had lost less games than us. The run that's been talked about is nowhere near as bad as has been made out.

I think 8 was the most Aberdeen have been ahead. Hearts actually narrowed the gap to three points with their win over Celtic, but we had extended it to five again by the next fixtures.

Agree totally the knee jerk from the cup game was a joke. Bearing in mind we were brilliant and lost to Rangers including a stonewall pen which would have seen us neck and neck with them. Aberdeen game was poor however I think there were reasons for that the 3rd very tough game in 5 days. Also have to look at the derby where we were denied a goal. Personally think we werent great in the second half of both derbies on both times a tattie field of a pitch but didnt deserve to lose in the cup though we defended a set piece poorly so it can happen. The new guys coming in have helped and also the removal of Stokes has probably made the group tighter and happier. Enjoy it while it lasts I would say.

lyonhibs
20-02-2018, 11:12 AM
A cracking run of form, one of the best 5/6 game spells I can remember in recent times.

It looked like a daunting run of games post cup exit but the way we've played and improvement since the January window "slammed shut" is marked and most enjoyable :agree:

hibbysam
20-02-2018, 11:15 AM
The reactions were absolutely knee jerk post that one game. If you've watched us week in/out this season I don't know how you'd see otherwise.

Performances don’t win you games however. We had won 1 in 7 and lost in the cup, had a similar run of fixtures again. People had their opinions and based on the facts it wasn’t knee jerk.

Borderhibbie76
20-02-2018, 11:27 AM
We weren’t ‘comfortably’ in 4th. Hearts were on a great run, and we’re gaining on us week on week, down to around 4/5 points. We were slipping further from 2nd/3rd, and falling closer to hearts who had their tails up. It was perfectly reasonable to be worried about the next set of, extremely difficult, fixtures.

As said, thankfully January was very good recruitment wise, and we turned the corner, but it wasn’t knee jerk based on one cup defeat.It was knee jerk to the derby defeat mate.. U can argue all you want but maybe next time show a wee bit more faith in these players and our manager when we hit a wee form dip...and that's really all it was.

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Ronniekirk
20-02-2018, 11:50 AM
I think May2116 is annoyed some people think his post was a knee jerk reaction to the Cup loss against Hearts
I think going into the Hearts game on the back of a break ,and with everything that went on in Portugal and the fact we weren't on a winning run made that result not such a surprise We don't win many v them at Tyncastle
So am going to give them the Benefit of the doubt and say it wasn't a knee jerk post
However while i couldn't of predicted how well our transfer business would turn out,I agree the poster was too gloomy ,and negative in their forecasting of results in the next five games
I posted at the time the Dundee and Motherwell games were winnable and thought we would get beat at Celtic might pick up a draw at Ibrox and had no idea how the Aberdeen game would go
Am delighted at the turn of events and the second half against Aberdeen is how i would like us to play every week but with more goals
Realistically that isn't likely to
happen and we could well come unstuck on that pitch at Killie despite our 3. 0 win their last time out
Am not going to predict this next run but am confident we will be fourth in the league come the Split and with more luck and if other results go for us we could get into third
But i was out my seat more times in the second half with excitement at the quality of moves that narrowly missed out on being a third and fourth goal our play deserved
Looking forward to these next five games with confidence despite Mcginn and Bartley being one booking away from suspensions


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hibbysam
20-02-2018, 12:58 PM
I think May2116 is annoyed some people think his post was a knee jerk reaction to the Cup loss against Hearts
I think going into the Hearts game on the back of a break ,and with everything that went on in Portugal and the fact we weren't on a winning run made that result not such a surprise We don't win many v them at Tyncastle
So am going to give them the Benefit of the doubt and say it wasn't a knee jerk post
However while i couldn't of predicted how well our transfer business would turn out,I agree the poster was too gloomy ,and negative in their forecasting of results in the next five games
I posted at the time the Dundee and Motherwell games were winnable and thought we would get beat at Celtic might pick up a draw at Ibrox and had no idea how the Aberdeen game would go
Am delighted at the turn of events and the second half against Aberdeen is how i would like us to play every week but with more goals
Realistically that isn't likely to
happen and we could well come unstuck on that pitch at Killie despite our 3. 0 win their last time out
Am not going to predict this next run but am confident we will be fourth in the league come the Split and with more luck and if other results go for us we could get into third
But i was out my seat more times in the second half with excitement at the quality of moves that narrowly missed out on being a third and fourth goal our play deserved
Looking forward to these next five games with confidence despite Mcginn and Bartley being one booking away from suspensions


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I never actually gave any predictions Ronnie. I was hoping we would beat both dundee and Motherwell which guaranteed us being above hearts after the Aberdeen game. I thought they would win most of their games. I’m also let the moon we won 4 out of 5 and turned the form on its head.

My argument, however, is posters saying it was knee jerk ‘because we were playing very well’... we were indeed. But we ad nowhere near the points we should have had as a result of not scoring enough goals. This had been our issue for a while, we then lost our top scorer and it wasn’t looking great on the scoring front. We also decided to start shopping goals during that poor run. It was also a very tough run of games.

It wasn’t about ‘not having faith’ but more about predictions based on form. The knee jerk stuff would be absolutely correct on the Lennon threads discussing his merits of managing us etc.

Anyhow, it’s done, we turned performances into 3 points instead of 1 most weeks and have cemented our place in the top 4. Long may it continue.

basehibby
20-02-2018, 01:05 PM
There's optimism, realisim and wishful thinking.

:faf::faf::faf: So - if 10 points out of 15 was "wishful thinking" then answers on a postcard for what 12 means :na na:

basehibby
20-02-2018, 01:07 PM
Sorry mate but you're dreaming if you think that's realistic given our form.

11 points was "dreaming" - so presumably the 12 points yielded has necessitated a change of bed sheets???

My_Wife_Camille
20-02-2018, 01:23 PM
I never actually gave any predictions Ronnie. I was hoping we would beat both dundee and Motherwell which guaranteed us being above hearts after the Aberdeen game. I thought they would win most of their games. I’m also let the moon we won 4 out of 5 and turned the form on its head.

My argument, however, is posters saying it was knee jerk ‘because we were playing very well’... we were indeed. But we ad nowhere near the points we should have had as a result of not scoring enough goals. This had been our issue for a while, we then lost our top scorer and it wasn’t looking great on the scoring front. We also decided to start shopping goals during that poor run. It was also a very tough run of games.

It wasn’t about ‘not having faith’ but more about predictions based on form. The knee jerk stuff would be absolutely correct on the Lennon threads discussing his merits of managing us etc.

Anyhow, it’s done, we turned performances into 3 points instead of 1 most weeks and have cemented our place in the top 4. Long may it continue.
Everything is always crystal clear with hindsight. It's nothing to do with having faith, or knee jerk reactions. We have won 4 from our last 5 but prior to that we had won only 4 of 12 and had problems for large parts of the season where we weren't winning games we should have won. The only people predicting that we would have had a run as good as we did were doing so out of blind faith or being sarcastic.

By the time the Hearts game round we had gone through a run of games where we were losing a number of soft goals while never really looking like scoring. Even a number those we did score in that period (Stokes v Aberdeen, Lewis v Rangers, Shaw v Ross County and Killie, Efe v Celtic) were hugely fortunate as they were either massive deflections, a result of a goalkeeping howler or an own goal. The team looked predictable, stale and disjointed and there were a number of threads on here questioning Lennon, Ambrose, McGinn and Stokes to name a few all before we even kicked off against Hearts.

Even the games we did play well in (Rangers and Killie imo) we couldn't win. After the Portugal incident there were a lot of people concerned about the direction that our season was going in. This was also all before the Hearts game. The result there wasn't a knee jerk reaction, it was the tipping point. Thankfully it tipped in our favour.

I can predict with a fairly large degree of certainty that if we beat Hamilton and go into the Hearts game on the back of a run where we have won 5 from our last 6 then the reaction on here wouldn't be nearly as bad if we lose as it was after the cup game. If it is then we can talk about knee jerk reactions.

I didn't make a prediction but I probably would have had us down for 6 or 7. I do agree that the ones predicting 1 or 3 points were just as extreme as those predicting 10+

hibbysam
20-02-2018, 01:26 PM
Everything is always crystal clear with hindsight. It's nothing to do with having faith, or knee jerk reactions. We have won 4 from our last 5 but prior to that we had won only 4 of 12 and had problems for large parts of the season where we weren't winning games we should have won. The only people predicting that we would have had a run as good as we did were doing so out of blind faith or being sarcastic.

By the time the Hearts game round we had gone through a run of games where we were losing a number of soft goals while never really looking like scoring. Even a number those we did score in that period (Stokes v Aberdeen, Lewis v Rangers, Shaw v Ross County and Killie, Efe v Celtic) were hugely fortunate as they were either massive deflections, a result of a goalkeeping howler or an own goal. The team looked predictable, stale and disjointed and there were a number of threads on here questioning Lennon, Ambrose, McGinn and Stokes to name a few all before we even kicked off against Hearts.

Even the games we did play well in (Rangers and Killie imo) we couldn't win. After the Portugal incident there were a lot of people concerned about the direction that our season was going in. This was also all before the Hearts game. The result there wasn't a knee jerk reaction, it was the tipping point. Thankfully it tipped in our favour.

I can predict with a fairly large degree of certainty that if we beat Hamilton and go into the Hearts game on the back of a run where we have won 5 from our last 6 then the reaction on here wouldn't be nearly as bad if we lose as it was after the cup game. If it is then we can talk about knee jerk reactions.

I didn't make a prediction but I probably would have had us down for 6 or 7. I do agree that the ones predicting 1 or 3 points were just as extreme as those predicting 10+

100%

Dashing Bob S
20-02-2018, 01:27 PM
Everything is always crystal clear with hindsight. It's nothing to do with having faith, or knee jerk reactions. We have won 4 from our last 5 but prior to that we had won only 4 of 12 and had problems for large parts of the season where we weren't winning games we should have won. The only people predicting that we would have had a run as good as we did were doing so out of blind faith or being sarcastic.

By the time the Hearts game round we had gone through a run of games where we were losing a number of soft goals while never really looking like scoring. Even a number those we did score in that period (Stokes v Aberdeen, Lewis v Rangers, Shaw v Ross County and Killie, Efe v Celtic) were hugely fortunate as they were either massive deflections, a result of a goalkeeping howler or an own goal. The team looked predictable, stale and disjointed and there were a number of threads on here questioning Lennon, Ambrose, McGinn and Stokes to name a few all before we even kicked off against Hearts.

Even the games we did play well in (Rangers and Killie imo) we couldn't win. After the Portugal incident there were a lot of people concerned about the direction that our season was going in. This was also all before the Hearts game. The result there wasn't a knee jerk reaction, it was the tipping point. Thankfully it tipped in our favour.

I can predict with a fairly large degree of certainty that if we beat Hamilton and go into the Hearts game on the back of a run where we have won 5 from our last 6 then the reaction on here wouldn't be nearly as bad if we lose as it was after the cup game. If it is then we can talk about knee jerk reactions.

I didn't make a prediction but I probably would have had us down for 6 or 7. I do agree that the ones predicting 1 or 3 points were just as extreme as those predicting 10+

Nonsense. Some of us predicted this run from the off. :fibber::fibber::fibber::fibber:

Hermit Crab
20-02-2018, 02:04 PM
I was one who predicted a poor points tally after these games but we were on a bad run at the time and I thought that it was going to be our almost traditional post xmas collapse. So pleased its turned out not to be the case. What difference a few wins makes coupled with excellent performances and a decent transfer window.