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chookyembra
22-01-2018, 02:31 PM
No Yam here son.
Joined here many years ago and more a reader but decided to post because yesterday was pathetic.
I am not a fan of Lennon, you are, we disagree. We are allowed to disagree.
You have 1000's of posts I don't - it doesn't make your point more valid than mine and it certainly doesn't make me a yam.

Oh and 36mpg

sauzee1966
22-01-2018, 02:35 PM
we have improved from last year. if we had been given the choice to be where we are in the league just now in May we would have taken it.


don't base your judgement on one game. Also getting players in has to be within the budget we have.....there is no pressure on NL at all he's the right guy and we are VERY lucky to have him.


lets not hound him out....that would be a HUGE mistake







We’ve all been fully behind him since he’s come in, but today he got it all wrong. We looked second to everything today and this whole Stokes crap hasn’t helped and I hope he never plays for us again. Lennon letting certain players off with discipline issues doesn’t help either.

Pressure on to bring in players who can do a job as we could throw away what could have been a good season.

Lennon must now look at himself and the team selection.

Zoro
22-01-2018, 02:41 PM
Gives the players permission to drink before a big game (Aberdeen away)

certain players turn up when they want for training the same players late everyday.

allowing players to drink on a training camp when he knows certain players will take the p*ss (some players to blame)

not admitting he's got it wrong when he gets it wrong.

I like Lennon's passion but he's getting found out tactically ad his no nonsense approach sometimes isn't the answer to get the players best response

Lago
22-01-2018, 02:42 PM
No Yam here son.
Joined here many years ago and more a reader but decided to post because yesterday was pathetic.
I am not a fan of Lennon, you are, we disagree. We are allowed to disagree.
You have 1000's of posts I don't - it doesn't make your point more valid than mine and it certainly doesn't make me a yam.

Oh and 36mpg
Well said

Peevemor
22-01-2018, 02:43 PM
Gives the players permission to drink before a big game (Aberdeen away)

certain players turn up when they want for training the same players late everyday.

allowing players to drink on a training camp when he knows certain players will take the p*ss (some players to blame)

not admitting he's got it wrong when he gets it wrong.

I like Lennon's passion but he's getting found out tactically ad his no nonsense approach sometimes isn't the answer to get the players best response

Which is it then? :dunno:

Zoro
22-01-2018, 02:49 PM
i personally would like him to stay but he has to make some changes the way he runs things.


Which is it then? :dunno:

judas
22-01-2018, 03:03 PM
Think Lennon is the subject of some unfair criticism

My own view is that Hibs and Hearts are now evenly matched.

Hearts, under Levein, have improved considerably since the start of the season and Hibs have remained much the same. I thought that in the 2nd half particularly, Hearts pressed Hibs very effectively and for all but 6-7 minutes, Hibs simply didn't get time on the ball.

I would say that introducing another winger - especially an inconsistent one - on to a narrow pitch, was a gamble, especially after losing the physical presence of Bartley. But I don't think the options on the bench helped.

I felt good about Lennon's pre season signings, no point applying hindsight now. He's got us to a semi. We are currently 4th in the league. But, I am concerned about the calibre of player he has brought to the club in the January window.

We need to find a healthy Stokes replacement (and offer his wages which I believe are the highest at the club) and we need to keep Mcgeough.

OsloHibs
22-01-2018, 03:52 PM
Thing is though - take me back to the summer and tell me we're about to sign those 4 players and add in Swanson on perm deals and I'd be away down the pub to celebrate!

I wasn't! I was the one on here taking the abuse for being all meh about it.. Giving Whittaker & Rocky 4 year deals was lunacy to me. Ah well, nowt we can do now. Onwards & upwards as they say!!

Doh Rae Me
22-01-2018, 03:56 PM
There's only one thing I want to say about Neil Lennon.

I absolutely love him.

IlDiavola
22-01-2018, 04:01 PM
is that you Trump? :wink:

:greengrin:greengrin

Cameron1875
22-01-2018, 04:02 PM
He is a lucky man that Stubbsy left him a very strong spine to the team.

There seems to be no plan about formation or players brought in that will suit our style. Signing a bunch of decent players then hoping for the best isn't a plan.

No one can doubt that Swanson for example had a good season last year but where is he meant to be playing.

wookie70
22-01-2018, 04:02 PM
I wasn't! I was the one on here taking the abuse for being all meh about it.. Giving Whittaker & Rocky 4 year deals was lunacy to me. Ah well, nowt we can do now. Onwards & upwards as they say!!

I'm the same I was Meh about Stokes, Whittaker, Swanson and on length of contract Rocky. I wasn't that bothered with Efe either as I thought he wasn't much of an improvement over Daz and Hanlon and we also had Fonts and latterly Porteous. We didn't need a big money Centre Half imo. None of them fitted the model I thought we were following under Stubbs of youngish Scottish/British players who were hungry to go on and do better in the game.

MWHIBBIES
22-01-2018, 04:04 PM
Arsene Wenger does the same I’ve noticed!

It is never his, or his teams fault, if something goes wrong.

Wenger regularly takes resonsibility and blames his team. You're thinking of Mourinho

Tornadoes70
22-01-2018, 04:06 PM
There's only one thing I want to say about Neil Lennon.

I absolutely love him.

You'll not be saying that next time we meet yam.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

IlDiavola
22-01-2018, 04:35 PM
There's only one thing I want to say about Neil Lennon.

I absolutely love him.

Hmmm...

Two of them going today maybe?

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 04:39 PM
I'm the same I was Meh about Stokes, Whittaker, Swanson and on length of contract Rocky. I wasn't that bothered with Efe either as I thought he wasn't much of an improvement over Daz and Hanlon and we also had Fonts and latterly Porteous. We didn't need a big money Centre Half imo. None of them fitted the model I thought we were following under Stubbs of youngish Scottish/British players who were hungry to go on and do better in the game.

You sound like Tim Sherwood.

Hibrandenburg
22-01-2018, 04:48 PM
is that you Trump? :wink:

Aye Rocketman and my button is bigger than your's so button it. :wink:

wookie70
22-01-2018, 04:48 PM
You sound like Tim Sherwood. What did he say about Hibs signings.

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 04:51 PM
He is a lucky man that Stubbsy left him a very strong spine to the team.

There seems to be no plan about formation or players brought in that will suit our style. Signing a bunch of decent players then hoping for the best isn't a plan.

No one can doubt that Swanson for example had a good season last year but where is he meant to be playing.

This.

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 04:54 PM
What did he say about Hibs signings.

Players need to be Scottish/British and hungry... Why?

Doh Rae Me
22-01-2018, 05:12 PM
You'll not be saying that next time we meet yam.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

No yam here, just fed up reading all the guff criticising our manager, who in my opinion, is the best manager that I've seen Hibs have.
We lose 1 derby in 10 and it's all doom and gloom.
Trust me when I say I've seen worse times at Easter Rd.
I'm 49.

lapsedhibee
22-01-2018, 05:14 PM
No yam here, just fed up reading all the guff criticising our manager, who in my opinion, is the best manager that I've seen Hibs have.
We lose 1 derby in 10 and it's all doom and gloom.
Trust me when I say I've seen worse times at Easter Rd.
I'm 49.

Are you saying you've had a season ticket since you were 9? :confused:

supermcginn
22-01-2018, 05:15 PM
No yam here, just fed up reading all the guff criticising our manager, who in my opinion, is the best manager that I've seen Hibs have.
We lose 1 derby in 10 and it's all doom and gloom.
Trust me when I say I've seen worse times at Easter Rd.
I'm 49.
Best manager ever? Based on what? I'm 33 he wouldn't be in my top 3.

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 05:16 PM
No yam here, just fed up reading all the guff criticising our manager, who in my opinion, is the best manager that I've seen Hibs have.
We lose 1 derby in 10 and it's all doom and gloom.
Trust me when I say I've seen worse times at Easter Rd.
I'm 49.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 best manager ever. 😂😂😂😂😂

Doh Rae Me
22-01-2018, 05:16 PM
No my first game was beating Raith Rivers to get back into the first division. I've never had a season ticket.
Does that make me a yam?

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 05:17 PM
No my first game was beating Raith Rivers to get back into the first division. I've never had a season ticket.
Does that make me a yam?

Who said you supported Hearts?

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 05:20 PM
Are you saying you've had a season ticket since you were 9? :confused:

I've had a season ticket since i was 5.. what is so surprising about someone having a season ticket at the age of 9?🤔

Doh Rae Me
22-01-2018, 05:20 PM
Ignsh70

Tornadoes70
22-01-2018, 05:21 PM
No my first game was beating Raith Rivers to get back into the first division. I've never had a season ticket.
Does that make me a yam?

No probs mate. Just seen you bid a lot of money for the Lawrie Reilly shirt. There's a few yams on here spouting nonsense and yours seemed an improbable post at this time. Apologies, I'm going to give the yam hunt a rest. Leave it to others and admins.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 05:23 PM
Best manager ever? Based on what? I'm 33 he wouldn't be in my top 3.

Mowbray maybe collins.. who else could be in your top 3 has to be either McLeish or Lennon.

Doh Rae Me
22-01-2018, 05:28 PM
No probs mate. Just seen you bid a lot of money for the Lawrie Reilly shirt. There's a few yams on here spouting nonsense and yours seemed an improbable post at this time. Apologies, I'm going to give the yam hunt a rest. Leave it to others and admins.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

Thanks, as far as Neil Lennon is concerned i love him for his grit, for his honesty for his, what I believe, genuine affection for our club. Stubbs 2nd for cup and Mobury for his football.

Sioux
22-01-2018, 05:34 PM
I'm the same I was Meh about Stokes, Whittaker, Swanson and on length of contract Rocky. I wasn't that bothered with Efe either as I thought he wasn't much of an improvement over Daz and Hanlon and we also had Fonts and latterly Porteous. We didn't need a big money Centre Half imo. None of them fitted the model I thought we were following under Stubbs of youngish Scottish/British players who were hungry to go on and do better in the game.

Ha ha. Yet another genius in hindsight.

WhileTheChief..
22-01-2018, 05:36 PM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 best manager ever. 😂😂😂😂😂

Favourite manager in my time as a Hibs fan, if not the best. I’m 45.

Auld, Stanton, Blackley, Miller, Duffy, McLeish, Sauzee, Williamson, Mowbray, Collins, Paatelainen, Hughes, Calderwood, Fenlon, Butcher and Stubbs.

He might not be the best but I wouldn’t take any of the others, at their peak, in place of him. Who would you rather have?

He’s got my support 100%.

Tornadoes70
22-01-2018, 05:40 PM
Thanks, as far as Neil Lennon is concerned i love him for his grit, for his honesty for his, what I believe, genuine affection for our club. Stubbs 2nd for cup and Mobury for his football.

Eddie Turnbull will always be my top manager but each to our own personal choice.

:aok:

Mon the Cabbage!!!

supermcginn
22-01-2018, 05:43 PM
Mowbray maybe collins.. who else could be in your top 3 has to be either McLeish or Lennon.

McLeish would probably be top, built a brilliant side and signed my favourite ever player. Stubbs would be above Lennon too for obvious reasons. I don't want Lennon out I just don't get the hype he gets from some.

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 08:23 PM
Favourite manager in my time as a Hibs fan, if not the best. I’m 45.

Auld, Stanton, Blackley, Miller, Duffy, McLeish, Sauzee, Williamson, Mowbray, Collins, Paatelainen, Hughes, Calderwood, Fenlon, Butcher and Stubbs.

He might not be the best but I wouldn’t take any of the others, at their peak, in place of him. Who would you rather have?

He’s got my support 100%.

Mcleish Mowbray Stubbs. There's 3. Miller, Collins too.

Mcleish is a judas but was a much much better manager.

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 08:29 PM
Mcleish Mowbray Stubbs. There's 3. Miller, Collins too.

Mcleish is a judas but was a much much better manager.

How do you come to that conclusion. Stubbs is a hero but is never in a million years one the best managers we have had regarding the last 30 years.

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 08:33 PM
How do you come to that conclusion. Stubbs is a hero but is never in a million years one the best managers we have had regarding the last 30 years.

Neither is Lennon. I would still take Stubbs every single day of the week and I would even try to raise funds for him to fly back to an Everton tribute night.

Lennon will and is getting found out. Gary Parker is the brains. Best manager ever ffs.

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 08:41 PM
Neither is Lennon. I would still take Stubbs every single day of the week and I would even try to raise funds for him to fly back to an Everton tribute night.

Lennon will and is getting found out. Gary Parker is the brains. Best manager ever ffs.

There is still this element of our support who are willing to go through Lennon's current tenure with a fine tooth comb intentionally looking for negative aspects of his management just purely because they want Stubbs back... It's ridiculous

One Day Soon
22-01-2018, 08:43 PM
Neither is Lennon. I would still take Stubbs every single day of the week and I would even try to raise funds for him to fly back to an Everton tribute night.

Lennon will and is getting found out. Gary Parker is the brains. Best manager ever ffs.


Why are Everton tribute nights ok?

WhileTheChief..
22-01-2018, 08:44 PM
At least Lennon’s got the brains to have Parker as his assistant :cb

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 08:45 PM
Their is still this element of our support who are willing to go through Lennon's current tenure with a fine tooth comb intentionally looking for negative aspects of his management just purely because they want Stubbs back... It's ridiculous

Yet there's some in the support that give him all the backing in the world regardless of us anything for some weird reason. Stubbs is a better coach with a better eye for a player. Mowbray and Mcleish completely different level. Best manager ever you said. Madness, now it's the usual an agenda against Lennon.

I just don't rate him as a manager and I don't think he has our interests 100% at heart.

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 08:45 PM
Why are Everton tribute nights ok?

I was kidding.

Firestarter
22-01-2018, 08:45 PM
At least Lennon’s got the brains to have Parker as his assistant :cb

Very true, his saving grace.

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 08:51 PM
Yet there's some in the support that give him all the backing in the world regardless of us anything for some weird reason. Stubbs is a better coach with a better eye for a player. Mowbray and Mcleish completely different level. Best manager ever you said. Madness, now it's the usual an agenda against Lennon.

I just don't rate him as a manager and I don't think he has our interests 100% at heart.
I never said my first, I said either mowbray,Collins then McLeish/Lennon. I never suggested it's an agenda against Lennon however you did say he will get found out.. What? like Stubbs did after two failed attempts to get promoted? Then sacked after 14 games with Rotherham?

One Day Soon
22-01-2018, 08:54 PM
I never said my first, I said either mowbray,Collins then McLeish/Lennon. I never suggested it's an agenda against Lennon however you did say he will get found out.. What? like Stubbs did after two failed attempts to get promoted? Then sacked after 14 games with Rotherham?

Bullseye.

Northernhibee
22-01-2018, 08:55 PM
I never said my first, I said either mowbray,Collins then McLeish/Lennon. I never suggested it's an agenda against Lennon however you did say he will get found out.. What? like Stubbs did after two failed attempts to get promoted? Then sacked after 14 games with Rotherham?

If Stubbs was managing us last season I'm 100% confident he would have been promoted. Last season was a far easier league than the previous two years in far easier circumstances yet we still made heavy weather of it at certain points.

Rotherham were a basket case of a club. Let us not forget that Lennon was an absolute disaster at Bolton in the same league.

Quite honestly, as an overall picture including signings and achievements with Hibs I'd take Stubbs every single day of the week.

pacoluna
22-01-2018, 09:04 PM
If Stubbs was managing us last season I'm 100% confident he would have been promoted. Last season was a far easier league than the previous two years in far easier circumstances yet we still made heavy weather of it at certain points.

Rotherham were a basket case of a club.

Quite honestly, as an overall picture including signings and achievements with Hibs I'd take Stubbs every single day of the week.

I always get involved in these debates and I always seem to agree to disagree. As I said there are elements of our support who want Stubbs back at all costs and will nit pick at all Lennon's faults. I base my judgment on facts.. the fact being Lennon got us up first time and currently has us 4th in the spfl pushing for Europe. There's a lot of ifs and butts regarding Stubbs but he failed his remit of promotion twice, however he will of course always be a hero of mine because of the SC.

SquashedFrogg
22-01-2018, 09:04 PM
Neither is Lennon. I would still take Stubbs every single day of the week and I would even try to raise funds for him to fly back to an Everton tribute night.

Lennon will and is getting found out. Gary Parker is the brains. Best manager ever ffs.

Attention seeking yet again. Initially sad, now embarrassing.

Northernhibee
22-01-2018, 09:23 PM
I always get involved in these debates and I always seem to agree to disagree. As I said there are elements of our support who want Stubbs back at all costs and will nit pick at all Lennon's faults. I base my judgment on facts.. the fact being Lennon got us up first time and currently has us 4th in the spfl pushing for Europe. There's a lot of ifs and butts regarding Stubbs but he failed his remit of promotion twice, however he will of course always be a hero of mine because of the SC.

I base my opinion on facts too. Last season was a far easier league yet we still weren't that good and we're currently looking at two wins out of ten. Recruitment has been awful (Whittaker on a 3yr deal at 33?).

He's not bad, but he's not doing a hugely better job than the likes of Yogi etc. who we had before Hibs really went downhill IMO.

DavidDavidGray
22-01-2018, 09:48 PM
I always get involved in these debates and I always seem to agree to disagree. As I said there are elements of our support who want Stubbs back at all costs and will nit pick at all Lennon's faults. I base my judgment on facts.. the fact being Lennon got us up first time and currently has us 4th in the spfl pushing for Europe. There's a lot of ifs and butts regarding Stubbs but he failed his remit of promotion twice, however he will of course always be a hero of mine because of the SC.

I think Lennon is a better manager than Stubbs overall, but Stubbs did a better job with us than Lennon has so far. Don’t get me wrong, I am NOT suggesting Lennon be sacked or saying that he has done a terrible job. He got us promoted, has us in 4th and has reached 2 semi finals. The reason I say Stubbs is because he completely turned us around. He inherited a shambolic squad with a terrible mentality and got us to 2nd in the league and a cup semi, finishing above Rangers. He then, in his second season, reached BOTH cup finals and was making a fight of the league against a rejuvenated Rangers, however fatigue eventually caught up with the players and the form massively dipped for a few games, handing Rangers the league. He also obviously won the Scottish Cup. He has had a better transfer record than Lennon so far aswell IMO. Again though, delighted with the league position we’re in right now and have full faith in Lennon.

OsloHibs
22-01-2018, 09:48 PM
Players need to be Scottish/British and hungry... Why?

I want every player to be hungry for success. What's the point in anything less? I should have been playing yesterday!!!!

Weir07
22-01-2018, 09:59 PM
No yam here, just fed up reading all the guff criticising our manager, who in my opinion, is the best manager that I've seen Hibs have.
We lose 1 derby in 10 and it's all doom and gloom.
Trust me when I say I've seen worse times at Easter Rd.
I'm 49.
Well I'm 49 too and I'd have McLeish, Mowbray and Stubbs above Lennon. I think people like Lennon's aggressive personality and associate this with him being a winner. However, I think he's a mediocre manager who's recruitment is questionable to say the least. Good recruitment is key for a manager and having a string of managers, from Collins onwards, that recruited poorly, led to the position we found ourselves in four years ago.

Peevemor
22-01-2018, 11:42 PM
Well I'm 49 too and I'd have McLeish, Mowbray and Stubbs above Lennon. I think people like Lennon's aggressive personality and associate this with him being a winner. However, I think he's a mediocre manager who's recruitment is questionable to say the least. Good recruitment is key for a manager and having a string of managers, from Collins onwards, that recruited poorly, led to the position we found ourselves in four years ago.I enjoyed most of McLeish's time at ER, but he had more money to spend than any other manager in our history (he also signed some guff). I wasn't that fussed when he went. Once transfer windows were introduced and he couldn't sign new players whenever he wanted things went pretty stale - the results during his last 10 months in charge are pretty mediocre.

Mowbray and Stubbs rebuilding efforts were far more impressive IMO, but both lack the mentality of Lennon.

A mix of the 3 of them would be pretty good.

hibbykris
23-01-2018, 06:11 AM
Lennon is currently 3/1 2nd favourite for the Oxford job on Skybet. Fav currently 5/2.


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JimBHibees
23-01-2018, 06:12 AM
Favourite manager in my time as a Hibs fan, if not the best. I’m 45.

Auld, Stanton, Blackley, Miller, Duffy, McLeish, Sauzee, Williamson, Mowbray, Collins, Paatelainen, Hughes, Calderwood, Fenlon, Butcher and Stubbs.

He might not be the best but I wouldn’t take any of the others, at their peak, in place of him. Who would you rather have?

He’s got my support 100%.

Tend to agree. Good post.

wookie70
23-01-2018, 06:15 AM
I'd have McLeish, Mowbray, Collins and Stubbs in front of Lennon. Fairer to judge at the end of the season though

jacomo
23-01-2018, 08:43 AM
I'd have McLeish, Mowbray, Collins and Stubbs in front of Lennon. Fairer to judge at the end of the season though


Usual reaction to a derby defeat on here, which is fair enough.

Very disappointing to go out of the Scottish Cup at this stage but we’ve had our customary trip to Hampden this season.

We are currently sitting 4th in the League so we are punching our weight.

Obviously there have been a lot of distractions off the field, particularly in the past month or so. Some tough decisions need to be made.

Overall, you’ve got to say that Lenny has done what has been asked of him, without setting the heather on fire.

Smartie
23-01-2018, 08:55 AM
Lennon's done very well with the players he's had available. His transfer business has been a bit questionable though, if it had been good then the available players we would have been much better.

Stubbs really had an eye for a player and brought some fantastic players to the club. I really don't know how he managed to attract Malonga, Allan, McGeouch, McGinn, Fontaine, Fyvie etc to the Scottish Championship when before and since we've had trouble bringing in real quality to the Premier Keague.

Much as I hate to criticise Stubbs though, he possibly didn't get quite as much out of the players as he might have.



I agree that the immediate aftermath of a painful Scottish Cup exit to our rivals is probably not the most sensible time to make an objective analysis.

MacGruber
23-01-2018, 11:15 AM
Lennon's done very well with the players he's had available. His transfer business has been a bit questionable though, if it had been good then the available players we would have been much better.

Stubbs really had an eye for a player and brought some fantastic players to the club. I really don't know how he managed to attract Malonga, Allan, McGeouch, McGinn, Fontaine, Fyvie etc to the Scottish Championship when before and since we've had trouble bringing in real quality to the Premier Keague.

Much as I hate to criticise Stubbs though, he possibly didn't get quite as much out of the players as he might have.



I agree that the immediate aftermath of a painful Scottish Cup exit to our rivals is probably not the most sensible time to make an objective analysis.

Stubbs is out of work - maybe we can get him back on the payroll on the recruitment team???

G B Young
23-01-2018, 11:41 AM
Well I'm 49 too and I'd have McLeish, Mowbray and Stubbs above Lennon. I think people like Lennon's aggressive personality and associate this with him being a winner. However, I think he's a mediocre manager who's recruitment is questionable to say the least. Good recruitment is key for a manager and having a string of managers, from Collins onwards, that recruited poorly, led to the position we found ourselves in four years ago.

I don't think his personality is aggressive. I think he tells it like it is, but there's an intelligent balance to what he says - even at his most heated and you'll never him him come out with the petty c**p that you hear from that weasel Levein. He's been in some tough places both as a human being and as a football player, which has shaped his personality and made him the winner he was on the pitch. He wants to instil something of that mentality in our club, which has for far too much of its history underachieved. He's surprised me by just how much insight and understanding he has brought to the job and I would love to see him achieve his ambitions for us.

I also think his recruitment has been good, but that for a variety of reasons the most recent signings haven't worked out the way he would have expected. He brought in the right sort of players (eg Holt, Marciano, Ambrose and retaining Cummings etc) to ensure we got the job done of winning the Championship and for me the majority of the players he recruited over the summer were spot on. He took a punt on Stokes, and I don't imagine anyone is more disappointed with Lennon over the way that seems to have ended up. I think we all expected Swanson to deliver a lot more but he's been in a difficult place, while Slivka was hailed as an absolute gem by many on here based on his early displays. With the possible exception of big Dave and the length of deal given to Whittaker, I'd ask anyone to state which of those summer signings they genuinely thought were poor at the time.

Albanian Hibs
23-01-2018, 11:56 AM
Gives the players permission to drink before a big game (Aberdeen away)

certain players turn up when they want for training the same players late everyday.

allowing players to drink on a training camp when he knows certain players will take the p*ss (some players to blame)

not admitting he's got it wrong when he gets it wrong.

I like Lennon's passion but he's getting found out tactically ad his no nonsense approach sometimes isn't the answer to get the players best response

What's this about players drinking before Aberdeen game? I must have missed this.

heretoday
23-01-2018, 12:02 PM
Tony Mowbray. Come back to Easter Road!

bingo70
23-01-2018, 12:05 PM
Tony Mowbray. Come back to Easter Road!

Doing a decent job at Blackburn I think?

Next hibs manager will be Strachan I reckon.

Hopefully that’s not for a while yet though as would love Lennon to turn our form around.

660
23-01-2018, 12:07 PM
Doing a decent job at Blackburn I think?

Next hibs manager will be Strachan I reckon.

Hopefully that’s not for a while yet though as would love Lennon to turn our form around.

I'd love to see Strachan at Hibs to be honest.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
23-01-2018, 12:08 PM
I’d take Stubbs back. His style of football would work so much better in the Premiership than it did in the Ch’ship as so many teams sat back. Only bad thing is out defence was powderpuff at tims under him. Lennon seems to have toughened us up a bit but the style isn’t as good as Stubbsy’s.

Thecat23
23-01-2018, 12:10 PM
Doing a decent job at Blackburn I think?

Next hibs manager will be Strachan I reckon.

Hopefully that’s not for a while yet though as would love Lennon to turn our form around.

No danger would Hibs next manager be Strachan. Mans a dinosaur and hopefully Lennon is here a while!

Plus he doesn’t fit into model that LD wants.

Golden Bear
23-01-2018, 12:10 PM
I’d take Stubbs back. His style of football would work so much better in the Premiership than it did in the Ch’ship as so many teams sat back. Only bad thing is out defence was powderpuff at tims under him. Lennon seems to have toughened us up a bit but the style isn’t as good as Stubbsy’s.

:agree:

andybev1
23-01-2018, 12:19 PM
Just seen the lennon interview on hibstv. When asked will there be any more movement in the transfer market and he said 'a possibilty yeah, we need to add a bit of firepower', and he said that 'a wee bit of physicality was missing today, Davidas was missing with a knee injury' (so the person that started the rumour that he would be leaving all those weeks ago - probably in the hope they would look good and ITK if it happened - should get a grip IMO)

RossScott1991
23-01-2018, 12:20 PM
I’m worried about us. We are sitting 4th, however the early season momentum has fizzled out. We have a squad that is devoid of goal scoring. Our best striker Stokes is AWOL, Mcgeough is running out of contract and rumours of him flying about of going to Aberdeen. We are signing guys like Rherras and being linked with players like Ryan McGowan who quite frankly is pish. Lennon is hopeless in the transfer market, and anyone we do get linked with is target men on trial with poor scoring records at previous clubs. We gave likes of Whittaker a 3 year deal - I’ve no idea why. We are on a stinking run of form in the league. Our next 5 games are massive, and can anyone really see us getting much from some of them ? Our games away to old firm at start of season came when we were on a high and flying. I just don’t see how we are going to get anything from them this time round.

Meanwhile likes of hearts are on a high, making couple of good loan signings.

Time to fight fire with fire hibs and sign guys who we know can hit the ground running. This current policy is a complete shambles. It is very worrying. Our best players are still Stubbs signings.

Maybe I’m just a negative miserable git at moment, just lost confidence in recent results and players we are linked with everyday.

bingo70
23-01-2018, 12:22 PM
I’m worried about us. We are sitting 4th, however the early season momentum has fizzled out. We have a squad that is devoid of goal scoring. Our best striker Stokes is AWOL, Mcgeough is running out of contract and rumours of him flying about of going to Aberdeen. We are signing guys like Rherras and being linked with players like Ryan McGowan who quite frankly is pish. Lennon is hopeless in the transfer market, and anyone we do get linked with is target men on trial with poor scoring records at previous clubs. We gave likes of Whittaker a 3 year deal - I’ve no idea why. We are on a stinking run of form in the league. Our next 5 games are massive, and can anyone really see us getting much from some of them ? Our games away to old firm at start of season came when we were on a high and flying. I just don’t see how we are going to get anything from them this time round.

Meanwhile likes of hearts are on a high, making couple of good loan signings.

Time to fight fire with fire hibs and sign guys who we know can hit the ground running. This current policy is a complete shambles. It is very worrying. Our best players are still Stubbs signings.

Maybe I’m just a negative miserable git at moment, just lost confidence in recent results and players we are linked with everyday.

Jesus, I thought I was a bit down after the result on Sunday but you’ve got me greetin into my soup here.

IGRIGI
23-01-2018, 12:24 PM
Stubbs had us finish behind Falkirk in the Championship, completely unacceptable for us to be in that position and cup or no cup I'd have had him out on his arse for that.

RossScott1991
23-01-2018, 12:24 PM
Jesus, I thought I was a bit down after the result on Sunday but you’ve got me greetin into my soup here.

Hahaha apologies, good to get it off my chest! We just need abit of magic and a kick to get going again

G B Young
23-01-2018, 12:25 PM
No danger would Hibs next manager be Strachan. Mans a dinosaur and hopefully Lennon is here a while!

Plus he doesn’t fit into model that LD wants.

Absolutely. Vastly overrated as Scotland boss and at aged 60+ unlikely to bring much in the way of fresh ideas. No chance he'd consider giving up relaxed retirement down south to manage Hibs either, even if he is a fan.

IGRIGI
23-01-2018, 12:25 PM
I’d take Stubbs back. His style of football would work so much better in the Premiership than it did in the Ch’ship as so many teams sat back. Only bad thing is out defence was powderpuff at tims under him. Lennon seems to have toughened us up a bit but the style isn’t as good as Stubbsy’s.

And what would happen if every club did what Ross County did in the League Cup final and sit back and hit us on the break?

Stubbs had no answer for it which is why we finished 3rd behind Falkirk in his 2nd season.

pacoluna
23-01-2018, 12:27 PM
those who criticize lennon for his Celtic connections and at the possibility he would jump at opportunity to manage celtic again yet hail stubbs who after two seasons jumped ships to join bloody Rotherham :confused:

G B Young
23-01-2018, 12:28 PM
I’m worried about us. We are sitting 4th, however the early season momentum has fizzled out. We have a squad that is devoid of goal scoring. Our best striker Stokes is AWOL, Mcgeough is running out of contract and rumours of him flying about of going to Aberdeen. We are signing guys like Rherras and being linked with players like Ryan McGowan who quite frankly is pish. Lennon is hopeless in the transfer market, and anyone we do get linked with is target men on trial with poor scoring records at previous clubs. We gave likes of Whittaker a 3 year deal - I’ve no idea why. We are on a stinking run of form in the league. Our next 5 games are massive, and can anyone really see us getting much from some of them ? Our games away to old firm at start of season came when we were on a high and flying. I just don’t see how we are going to get anything from them this time round.

Meanwhile likes of hearts are on a high, making couple of good loan signings.

Time to fight fire with fire hibs and sign guys who we know can hit the ground running. This current policy is a complete shambles. It is very worrying. Our best players are still Stubbs signings.

Maybe I’m just a negative miserable git at moment, just lost confidence in recent results and players we are linked with everyday.

Hindsight is wonderful in that respect. As I've asked on another thread, can you name one of Lennon's signings that you thought at the time was 'hopeless'?

I agree that we look to have stalled a bit after several years of upward momentum, but let's see how things have played out come the end of the season.

Elephant Stone
23-01-2018, 12:28 PM
And what would happen if every club did what Ross County did in the League Cup final and sit back and hit us on the break?

Stubbs had no answer for it which is why we finished 3rd behind Falkirk in his 2nd season.

Yeah that's the definitive reason. The fact that we played about 14 more matches than Falkirk that season is completely irrelevant.

IGRIGI
23-01-2018, 12:32 PM
Yeah that's the definitive reason. The fact that we played about 14 more matches than Falkirk that season is completely irrelevant.

Don't care if we played 100 games more than Falkirk, to finish behind them over the course of a season is unacceptable.

scooby
23-01-2018, 12:34 PM
No danger would Hibs next manager be Strachan. Mans a dinosaur and hopefully Lennon is here a while!

Plus he doesn’t fit into model that LD wants.

This 👍

Elephant Stone
23-01-2018, 12:35 PM
Don't care if we played 100 games more than Falkirk, to finish behind them over the course of a season is unacceptable.

What about if it was 150 games and we won three cups?

heretoday
23-01-2018, 12:43 PM
those who criticize lennon for his Celtic connections and at the possibility he would jump at opportunity to manage celtic again yet hail stubbs who after two seasons jumped ships to join bloody Rotherham :confused:

Ah yes but........

G B Young
23-01-2018, 12:52 PM
Stubbs had us finish behind Falkirk in the Championship, completely unacceptable for us to be in that position and cup or no cup I'd have had him out on his arse for that.

You'd have had him sacked after becoming the first Hibs manager in 114 years to win the Scottish Cup because we finished behind Falkirk in the table in the same sesaon? Yep, that would have been the correct course of action.

Smartie
23-01-2018, 02:43 PM
I love Lennon, and I like the way that he fights his and our corner.

But I'm a wee bit unsure how I feel about him having been drawn into this nonsense with Levein.

Levein made a few gloating remarks, a wee bit classless, but understandable given their recent terrible derby record and the relief he must have felt at getting the win.

I don't know if it does Lennon or us any favours for him to be drawn into so much aggro, and especially for him to be as candid about it as he is in the press.

Stevie Reid
23-01-2018, 02:47 PM
I love Lennon, and I like the way that he fights his and our corner.

But I'm a wee bit unsure how I feel about him having been drawn into this nonsense with Levein.

Levein made a few gloating remarks, a wee bit classless, but understandable given their recent terrible derby record and the relief he must have felt at getting the win.

I don't know if it does Lennon or us any favours for him to be drawn into so much aggro, and especially for him to be as candid about it as he is in the press.

I appreciate where you're coming from and don't disagree with any of it, but given for years we thought we were a soft touch on and off the pitch (especially compared to them), I'm happy to see where this takes us!

Onion
23-01-2018, 02:51 PM
I love Lennon, and I like the way that he fights his and our corner.

But I'm a wee bit unsure how I feel about him having been drawn into this nonsense with Levein.

Levein made a few gloating remarks, a wee bit classless, but understandable given their recent terrible derby record and the relief he must have felt at getting the win.

I don't know if it does Lennon or us any favours for him to be drawn into so much aggro, and especially for him to be as candid about it as he is in the press.

That's Lennon and nothing's going to change that. As a Hibs fan, there have been loads of times over the years when I just wished to gawd Hibs would stick up for themselves when the club was insulted or taken for a soft touch. Today, we've a squad full of strong characters and winners who are not afraid of their own shadow, and a manager who will not be intimidated. That's so refreshing. Over time, that will result in more success on the field and pride in the club, which is what we all want.

Firestarter
23-01-2018, 03:36 PM
If anything it shows that Levein completely shat it after making comments such as them. Well done Lennon here in getting him told.

Elephant Stone
23-01-2018, 03:51 PM
Glad to have the man who made a career out of kicking people (and winning nineteen trophies) as our manager.



:flag:

shetlandhibee
23-01-2018, 05:50 PM
That's Lennon and nothing's going to change that. As a Hibs fan, there have been loads of times over the years when I just wished to gawd Hibs would stick up for themselves when the club was insulted or taken for a soft touch. Today, we've a squad full of strong characters and winners who are not afraid of their own shadow, and a manager who will not be intimidated. That's so refreshing. Over time, that will result in more success on the field and pride in the club, which is what we all want.
this :top marks

HIBERNIAN-0762
23-01-2018, 05:51 PM
That's Lennon and nothing's going to change that. As a Hibs fan, there have been loads of times over the years when I just wished to gawd Hibs would stick up for themselves when the club was insulted or taken for a soft touch. Today, we've a squad full of strong characters and winners who are not afraid of their own shadow, and a manager who will not be intimidated. That's so refreshing. Over time, that will result in more success on the field and pride in the club, which is what we all want.

:top marks

WhileTheChief..
23-01-2018, 05:53 PM
The gloves are off....


https://youtu.be/LwO5b7Vo77Q

Eaststandee
23-01-2018, 06:32 PM
The gloves are off....


https://youtu.be/LwO5b7Vo77Q

Cheers I was looking for that :aok:

CathroMustStay
23-01-2018, 06:43 PM
The gloves are off....


https://youtu.be/LwO5b7Vo77Q

Neil Francis Lennon.

:flag:

givescotlandfreedom
23-01-2018, 11:26 PM
We always moan about Hibs being a soft touch on and off the pitch. We can't get upset when Lennon sticks it to the biggest tadger to roam the earth since Mercer.

kaimendhibs
24-01-2018, 01:09 AM
We always moan about Hibs being a soft touch on and off the pitch. We can't get upset when Lennon sticks it to the biggest tadger to roam the earth since Mercer.Agreed. Neil Lennon will stand up for Hibs and Im pleased about that

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southern hibby
24-01-2018, 07:14 AM
those who criticize lennon for his Celtic connections and at the possibility he would jump at opportunity to manage celtic again yet hail stubbs who after two seasons jumped ships to join bloody Rotherham :confused:

Sorry but to me they’re two different things. At no time did Stubbs constantly go on about another club. In fact NL will talk all day long at every opportunity he gets of a certain club. AS made a mistake moving to Rotherham of that there is no doubt, but did he do it to better his career, to be nearer his family or any number of other examples I could come up with?

NL should at least respect Hibs by saying to the media, sorry but here to discuss all things Hibs not the lesser greens. I won’t lie it annoys me to ****, that he constantly talks about them at every opportunity.

As for him joining the lesser greens, don’t think that will happen anytime soon, if at all.

GGTTH

Colr
24-01-2018, 08:00 AM
I love Lennon, and I like the way that he fights his and our corner.

But I'm a wee bit unsure how I feel about him having been drawn into this nonsense with Levein.

Levein made a few gloating remarks, a wee bit classless, but understandable given their recent terrible derby record and the relief he must have felt at getting the win.

I don't know if it does Lennon or us any favours for him to be drawn into so much aggro, and especially for him to be as candid about it as he is in the press.

If it motivates him the same way Rangers abuse does then so much the better.

Colr
24-01-2018, 08:01 AM
The gloves are off....


https://youtu.be/LwO5b7Vo77Q

Why were the gloves on in the first place? (Only kidding).

Like this from Lennon.

heretoday
24-01-2018, 08:44 AM
Lenny wouldn't have lasted long as a fish. He rises to the bait too quick.

MONKEY'S ERSE
24-01-2018, 08:50 AM
Given the Yams nickname for Neil,I'd love to see him take a bag of popcorn to his next interview , say "This one's for you guys"and have a laugh at them trying to take the p##s out of him. Bit of humour & class to boot -which Levein doesn't have,as Mikey Stewart alluded to yesterday in the press.
Their usual arrogance didn't take long to resurface,did it? If one defeat in 10 to them is the "Natural order" I'll live with that!

One Day Soon
24-01-2018, 12:12 PM
Conducts himself with dignity and class. Takes no 5hit from anyone and clearly likes the club and the fans.

I absolutely love that he hasn't tried to help Levein finesse away his graceless comments. Both the 'natural order' and 'almost wishing it wasn't over the line' comments are signs of a very small minded guy with a severe inferiority complex.

No soft touches at Easter Road anymore. He's already a great Hibs manager for me and if he gets a run of three or more years in the job I think we'll end up wondering how on earth we got this lucky.

Phil MaGlass
24-01-2018, 01:20 PM
Loved this bit lennon said in the EN

He said: “A laugh? I didn’t find it funny. In my time in Scottish football, I’ve seen a lot of people with a misguided sense of superiority in the game – without actually earning it or achieving anything. :greengrin

Read more at: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-neil-lennon-craig-levein-was-pandering-to-hearts-masses-1-4670061

ahibby
24-01-2018, 01:30 PM
In response to the original post I'd say we knew what we were getting with A Stokes. We were probably relieved we got him because of his football pedigree but with reservations due to his baggage and not being an out and out CF. That describes my position at the time and that hasn't changed. His baggage is causing problems within the team now and so it's time to consider alternatives, in my view. With regards to NL, I can't say I am excited by the brand of football I've seen at ER and it has become a bit predictably boring, in my view. On the other hand you can't argue with our position in the league and so I am willing to continue going to matches not to be particularly well entertained but to see how things unfold for the rest of the season. I wish he could improve whatever it is he does at half time that causes them to come out and play less than they did in the first half, I'd like him to sort that out.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
24-01-2018, 02:43 PM
Loved this bit lennon said in the EN

He said: “A laugh? I didn’t find it funny. In my time in Scottish football, I’ve seen a lot of people with a misguided sense of superiority in the game – without actually earning it or achieving anything. :greengrin

Read more at: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-neil-lennon-craig-levein-was-pandering-to-hearts-masses-1-4670061



HaHa! that's telt the Rolf Harris look-a-likey gimp. :top marks

WhileTheChief..
24-01-2018, 05:31 PM
Conducts himself with dignity and class. Takes no 5hit from anyone and clearly likes the club and the fans.

I absolutely love that he hasn't tried to help Levein finesse away his graceless comments. Both the 'natural order' and 'almost wishing it wasn't over the line' comments are signs of a very small minded guy with a severe inferiority complex.

No soft touches at Easter Road anymore. He's already a great Hibs manager for me and if he gets a run of three or more years in the job I think we'll end up wondering how on earth we got this lucky.

:top marksAgree with every word.

It’s only once once he’s gone that we will really appreciate what we had in Neil Lennon.

I hope he’s here for years.