Dandy Dons 4 v The Mighty Hibees 1 FT

[SaulGoodman]

21st May 2016 seems a long time ago now

Oh wow

[rcarter1]

Looks like this half we've reverted comfortably back to creating 3758295828391944928 chances and scoring 0 goals.

We really do lack goals from anywhere. Anyway, the Dons were in the right place to go full throttle after the Derek McInnes affair. Carry on Hibs!! :agree:

[Moulin Yarns]

Every time our defence gets the ball I get the urge to have a fag and a whiskey.

Obviously so do they

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Reality check. Embarrassing, total utter pish. Couple players needed in Jan. Blow the whistle and put us out of our misery.

[where'stheslope]

Come on chaps, we've been on the end off some beatings before, its all about how the players react to this!!!

[The Leith Dutch]

One thing for sure McGinns worth is dropping like a stone & we should with draw Dylan's contract offer.

So you'd withdraw a contract offer to a player who has been excellent for us in the bulk of games he's played this season because he's had a couple of bad games?

Have we been **** today? Absolutely.
Should we bin all our good players? Nope. That would be daft.

We're probably the 4th best team in the league and we're going to need 2 or 3 quality players players to go further.
Given that we were in the Championship last year I'll take that.

And no - I don't think today's performance is acceptable.

[Jones28]

SJM has the touch of a ****ing steam train today

[Lancs Harp]

I reckon theyve replaced the water in those water bottles with Eden Mill Gin.

[Stuart93]

Sarcasm not your strong point then?

My point is that those 2 performances were very good, and unlucky not to take 6 points never mind 1. They were against either half of the old firm which is no mean feat.

I'm not really sure who your dig is aimed at, but it's no me that's talking pish.

You're remembering that the rangers aren't anywhere near the team they used to be huh? A team we should be more than capable of beating at home

[andybev1]

We have made them look a lot better than they are. tired performance - one to forget and we will not see that again this season.

Such a crash from last saturday.

[IGRIGI]

Making Aberdeen look like Holland 1974

[Stuart93]

Away and polish your Rover.

What pish you slavering now

[Hibrandenburg]

Sarcasm not your strong point then?

My point is that those 2 performances were very good, and unlucky not to take 6 points never mind 1. They were against either half of the old firm which is no mean feat.

I'm not really sure who your dig is aimed at, but it's no me that's talking pish.

Fair doos, that's clarified my question and we agree. Guess I'm a bit touchy in the current circumstances.

[bringbackbenny]

SJM has the touch of a ****ing steam train today

Yes he and McGeouch very leggy/tired today. Amazed neither was subbed for Slivka.

[Thegreenside]

SJM has the touch of a ****ing steam train today

Was the same Wednesday

[Ozyhibby]

Whittaker, Swanson and Matulivicious have been poor signings. We need to find a way to move them on and bring in replacements in January.


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[Northernhibee]

Problem is, we all unanimously liked the look of the team he picked pre match!! Hindsight is great.

It's not our job to pick the team though - if you work with the team day in, day out you need to know more.

As I say though, everything about this has been dreadful. Accept, fix, move on.

[GreenCastle]

Positive - Hopefully any scouts watching SJM will be put off.

[One Day Soon]

What pish you slavering now

Maybe put on a yellow cardigan at the same time.

[Jim44]

Absolute shambles, I really thought we had moved on from performances like this in recent years ..aw well just when we start thinking we no longer are soft touches we play like this .. brutal

My thoughts exactly. I laughed at Jambo comments about it being a matter of time till we imploded. Unbelievable.

[Thecat23]

How do you recover from this that’s my worry. This is a serious doing here and the players look dead on their feet. With 2 derbies coming up its going to be a huge task for Lennon and the team to mentally get back on track.

First off they have to stop these mistakes and Rocky needs to find confidence from somewhere.

[One Day Soon]

This thread title should be changed to Toys Out the Pram R Us.

[carnoustiehibee]

Whittaker, Swanson and Matulivicious have been poor signings. We need to find a way to move them on and bring in replacements in January.


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Add Murray the goalie and somehow giving Boyle a 4 year deal.

[Thecat23]

Positive - Hopefully any scouts watching SJM will be put off.

That’s the only bonus. Anyone who’s watched the last couple of games will be wondering what the hell everyone is on about as he’s been well below par.

[SaulGoodman]

Whittaker, Swanson and Matulivicious have been poor signings. We need to find a way to move them on and bring in replacements in January.


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Swanson has been injured

[cabbageandribs1875]

We have made them look a lot better than they are. tired performance - one to forget and we will not see that again this season.

Such a crash from last saturday.



if it's the reverse last 3 fixtures later in the season it could be, sellick/sevco away and aberdeen at home...where they've won already

[Hibrandenburg]

We're being found out big style. As others have said, we're not nearly as good as some folk think we are.

We're having a bad day at the office after an 80 hour week and the company Christmas party the night before. This team isn't nearly as bad as some folk think they are.

[SaulGoodman]

Add Murray the goalie and somehow giving Boyle a 4 year deal.

Oh **** off

[MWHIBBIES]

If that is a genuine comment it is the stupidest I've seen on here for a long while.3 big games this week, 3 times he has got it very wrong with the selection. How is my comment stupid?

[Lago]

In the last 5 minutes McGinn has been caught in possession twice and McGeough has passed the ball to no one twice and to a Hibs player under pressure once whilst Stevenson had zero options when facing their goal 45 yards out then 30 seconds later had bags of time and clipped a ball to nobody.

Sums us up today. No ideas, individual errors and lack of focus.

Yip our mid field 2 have been poor today.

[GreenCastle]

Whittaker, Swanson and Matulivicious have been poor signings. We need to find a way to move them on and bring in replacements in January.


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Whittaker - pretty much as expected - some good but not a long term solution and struggles against speed

Swanson - hasn’t had a fair run plus the distraction of personal issues. Feel he can still add goals.

Big Davey - brought to help Slivka settle in - good guy but not a Holt.

Yes we need more quality if we want to get top 2 or 3.

[neil7908]

Whittaker, Swanson and Matulivicious have been poor signings. We need to find a way to move them on and bring in replacements in January.


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Harsh on Danny. I think in the circumstances he needs to be given until at least summer.

I'm puzzled by Big Dave. Managers make poor signings but he's barely had a look in and is exactly the kind of player we need.

Lennon seemed delighted when he joined as well, felt like he'd pulled a rabbit out of a hat.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Add Murray the goalie and somehow giving Boyle a 4 year deal.



i'm saying nowt at that one :tin hat:

[Jones28]

You're remembering that the rangers aren't anywhere near the team they used to be huh? A team we should be more than capable of beating at home

Will you just away and *****?

We should have beaten them, we were denied a penalty, we missed numerous chances, they had nothing in the game bar 5 minutes from which they scored 2 goals, we dominated them otherwise. They spent £10 million in the summer and have in place a coach who openly admitted they got away with one. We've had a good record against rangers recently but we also took a couple of doings off them in our last season together in the championship. So if you can't see that we were unlucky as opposed to poor you shouldn't be watching football.

[Pretty Boy]

This thread title should be changed to Toys Out the Pram R Us.

Do fans of any club generally react well to a poor performance and a 4-0 defeat? Or a run of 1 win in 6 games?

I'm sure Lennon will say all the right things publicly but behind closed doors there will be plenty 'toys out the pram' from him as well.

[Dr_Regal]

I'd rather have listened to "I saw mummy kissing Santa Claus" on repeat for 90 mins straight then watch what we have just produced.

[One Day Soon]

We're having a bad day at the office after an 80 hour week and the company Christmas party the night before. This team isn't nearly as bad as some folk think they are.


Exactly but far, far too sensible.

[cabbageandribs1875]

no scoring in any of the other games

[neil7908]

Exactly but far, far too sensible.

I think time will tell. All I will say is no chance we'll finish 2nd or 3rd this season.

And it won't go down well on here but Hearts will be 3 points behind if they win today.

[BroxburnHibee]

Not offside

[Hibrandenburg]

Maybe put on a yellow cardigan at the same time.

:tee hee:

[erin go bragh]

After the effort put in these last two games . This one was always going to be a tough one . Still sitting in 4th place though. Beat County on Sat and onwards and upwards we go .

[guthrie01]

Whittaker, Swanson and Matulivicious have been poor signings. We need to find a way to move them on and bring in replacements in January.


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The majority of signings since Lennon came in have ended up being poor

[Thecat23]

That should have stood.

[Pretty Boy]

We've got away with one there. Half a yard onside. Ketstone cops stuff again at the back.

[Hibrandenburg]

I think time will tell. All I will say is no chance we'll finish 2nd or 3rd this season.

And it won't go down well on here but Hearts will be 3 points behind if they win today.


What have hearts got to do with anything?

[Biggie]

It wasn't the players Xmas night out last night was it ?

[carnoustiehibee]

Oh **** off

Truth hurts for deluded

[bigwheel]

We've got away with one there. Half a yard onside. Ketstone cops stuff again at the back.

Yep. evens it up for 4th goal where GMS was offside when set up pass made

[where'stheslope]

I think time will tell. All I will say is no chance we'll finish 2nd or 3rd this season.

And it won't go down well on here but Hearts will be 3 points behind if they win today.

In that case they will be level on points if they beat Celtic on Sunday???

[SaulGoodman]

I think time will tell. All I will say is no chance we'll finish 2nd or 3rd this season.

And it won't go down well on here but Hearts will be 3 points behind if they win today.

Hearts don't play today, they play against Celtic tomorrow. Forgive me if I'm not pishing ma frillies.

[Lancs Harp]

Here we go! :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

I said before the game I wanted our recent league record against Aberdeen to change and it certainly has. It's now 9 games without a win against them and 8 without a goal.

[Ozyhibby]

Whittaker - pretty much as expected - some good but not a long term solution and struggles against speed

Swanson - hasn’t had a fair run plus the distraction of personal issues. Feel he can still add goals.

Big Davey - brought to help Slivka settle in - good guy but not a Holt.

Yes we need more quality if we want to get top 2 or 3.

Brought in to help Slivka settle in? Do you actually believe that nonsense? Do you really think we can afford to bring buddies for players?


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[Hibrandenburg]

Let all do the Hibees bounce. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah Nah!

[Moulin Yarns]

Has to go down as an own goal

[SaulGoodman]

Truth hurts for deluded

Okay chief no bother

[Jones28]

Hahaha

[cabbageandribs1875]

comeback is on

[Thecat23]

Only positive is we now have got these games out the way. We have a window coming up to improve the side and hopefully let a few go. Some need to maybe look at themselves after this including the manager and look at why we got hammered so easily today.

[SaulGoodman]

i said before the game i wanted our recent league record against aberdeen to change and it certainly has. It's now 9 games without a win against them and 8 without a goal.

goallllllll

[Pretty Boy]

I said before the game I wanted our recent league record against Aberdeen to change and it certainly has. It's now 9 games without a win against them and 8 without a goal.

Or not.

A positive!

[One Day Soon]

3 big games this week, 3 times he has got it very wrong with the selection. How is my comment stupid?

"Our manager is nowhere near as good as this place thinks he is. Doesn't look like a winner this week."

Its our first season back up. We very nearly beat a Celtc team that is miles ahead of everyone else. We hammered The Rangers but somehow lost after hitting the post twice at least and being denied a cast iron penalty. We've come to Aberdeen after two high tempo games in quick succession and had a bad day at the office. We are pushing for a European place and are a good bet to finish third or fourth.

I'd say our manager is every bit as good as this place thinks he is.

[Beefster]

It wasn't the players Xmas night out last night was it ?

No.

Comeback on.

[NZ Green]

We want 5?

[Thief]

Aberdeen’s high press all over the pitch, and always covering the ‘out pass’ has completely done us.
Would love to see hibs play like that.
Hope you’re reading Neil [emoji106]


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[SRHibs]

1-1 in the second half. No bad.

[madhatter]

Genuinely think Hibs should refund the fans who made the trip. Awful performance and a lot of it looks like a lack of effort and zero conviction.

Can happily take the team losing 4-1 if we were outplayed but positioning is all over the place and effort has been disgraceful.

[Stuart93]

Maybe put on a yellow cardigan at the same time.

Sound pal

[Lago]

Should have been on from the start.

[HoboHarry]

Who scored?

[neil7908]

Who scored?

OG

[Johnny_Leith]

Who scored?

One for the dubious goals panel, but stokes hit the shot.

[erin go bragh]

I said before the game I wanted our recent league record against Aberdeen to change and it certainly has. It's now 9 games without a win against them and 8 without a goal.

That poor but at least we have scored . Didn't realise our record against them was so poor . Back to back wins over the festivities and all will be forgiven .

[Lago]

Only positive is we now have got these games out the way. We have a window coming up to improve the side and hopefully let a few go. Some need to maybe look at themselves after this including the manager and look at why we got hammered so easily today.

Your right because our highly praised mid field have been absolutely creamed today. Dons professional to a tee.

[GreenCastle]

To all the Jambos looking in - we still run this city !

[One Day Soon]

Do fans of any club generally react well to a poor performance and a 4-0 defeat? Or a run of 1 win in 6 games?

I'm sure Lennon will say all the right things publicly but behind closed doors there will be plenty 'toys out the pram' from him as well.


No they don't and I'm sure there are equally daft comments on their fan sites too. "I'm no happy" is one thing, but some of the utter pish posted by one or two people on here today is the definition of 'look at me' trolling.

[Ozyhibby]

Genuinely think Hibs should refund the fans who made the trip. Awful performance and a lot of it looks like a lack of effort and zero conviction.

Can happily take the team losing 4-1 if we were outplayed but positioning is all over the place and effort has been disgraceful.

Should they ask the fans to pay double when we win big as well?


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[Hibrandenburg]

"Our manager is nowhere near as good as this place thinks he is. Doesn't look like a winner this week."

Its our first season back up. We very nearly beat a Celtc team that is miles ahead of everyone else. We hammered The Rangers but somehow lost after hitting the post twice at least and being denied a cast iron penalty. We've come to Aberdeen after two high tempo games in quick succession and had a bad day at the office. We are pushing for a European place and are a good bet to finish third or fourth.

I'd say our manager is every bit as good as this place thinks he is.

Yep, but the bedwetters will have you believe we're as bad as hearts and why do they keep bringing hearts into it? Rovers and cardigans all over this thread, where were they last Sunday?

[Thecat23]

Your right because our highly praised mid field have been absolutely creamed today. Dons professional to a tee.

Dons midfield had it so easy today it was unreal. They won’t have an easier game I don’t think all season.

[cabbageandribs1875]

think the commentator said we went on a run against aberdeen of 1 win in 34 games, didn't pick up what period though, probably the dons heady days




probably why they have a 136 wins to 102 in head to head games(every competition)

[JeMeSouviens]

"Our manager is nowhere near as good as this place thinks he is. Doesn't look like a winner this week."

Its our first season back up. We very nearly beat a Celtc team that is miles ahead of everyone else. We hammered The Rangers but somehow lost after hitting the post twice at least and being denied a cast iron penalty. We've come to Aberdeen after two high tempo games in quick succession and had a bad day at the office. We are pushing for a European place and are a good bet to finish third or fourth.

I'd say our manager is every bit as good as this place thinks he is.

Can’t argue with that. We have absolutely honked today, but honkers like this have been few and far between.

[Stuart93]

To all the Jambos looking in - we still run this city !

Have a word mate. Who gives a ****

[Souter96Mac]

Still think we'll finish 2nd tbh. Consistently beat the teams below us and we will.

[hibsbollah]

Yep, but the bedwetters will have you believe we're as bad as hearts and why do they keep bringing hearts into it? Rovers and cardigans all over this thread, where were they last Sunday?

Tucked up with a ginsters pastie in the bungalow. (Rover in garage freshly waxed and cardy on a synthetic wash)

[Stuart93]

Yep, but the bedwetters will have you believe we're as bad as hearts and why do they keep bringing hearts into it? Rovers and cardigans all over this thread, where were they last Sunday?

Just left Easter road pretty happy we managed to get a point. This Saturday unhappy cause we've picked up 0 points against two teams our manager thinks we're better than

[Beefster]

Have a word mate. Who gives a ****

Jambos try to pretend that they don’t give a **** but they do really. It gnaws at them.

[Hiber-nation]

Dons midfield had it so easy today it was unreal. They won’t have an easier game I don’t think all season.

Correct, Dylan was way off the pace and McGinn had his worst game for Hibs by a mile. Add to that comical defending and no threat up front.

No excuses for that but we can still get 9 points from the next 3 games.

[One Day Soon]

Sound pal

If you knew, you'd know.

[Stuart93]

Jambos try to pretend that they don’t give a **** but they do really. It gnaws at them.

I agree. We've just been pumped 4-1 from Aberdeen though. Who gives a **** about hearts

[lugz]

Full refund for travelling fans?

[hibsbollah]

Just watched Steven Whittaker at the fourth goal. What is he up to?

[Thecat23]

Correct, Dylan was way off the pace and McGinn had his worst game for Hibs by a mile. Add to that comical defending and no threat up front.

No excuses for that but we can still get 9 points from the next 3 games.

That’s basically it, need to learn from this today and focus on what we can do not what we can’t change. Beat Ross County and that’s a start. Think Lennon needs to have a chat with McGinn and Mcgeough get them going again because when these two play Hibs play.

[One Day Soon]

Have a word mate. Who gives a ****

Clearly you do for some mysterious reason, otherwise why reply?

[NZ Green]

We've had a fairly good season so I can forgive one (very) bad performance, as long as it is only one and a lesson has been learned.

[One Day Soon]

Just watched Steven Whittaker at the fourth goal. What is he up to?

Completely failing to go with his man, that's what. No pace and doesn't even look match fit.

[Glory Lurker]

On the bright side, it would have been typical Hibs if we’d picked up 5+ points this week then played a stinker next week against Ross County and got thumped. At least we’ll not have that frustration to deal with.

[Stuart93]

Clearly you do for some mysterious reason, otherwise why reply?

Weird.

[hibsbollah]

Completely failing to go with his man, that's what. No pace and doesn't even look match fit.

...and then puts his arm up claiming something, what? offside? asking to be subbed?

[cabbageandribs1875]

well done all the fans staying until the end :nlgwa

[madhatter]

Should they ask the fans to pay double when we win big as well?


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No. Difference is between players not turning up and doing their jobs. These players are paid to play football and in vast spells in that game we looked like a part time team. No shape, no teamwork, no effort, no conviction. In other words, professional footballers were neither professional or played much football. They still get paid their £1000-£3000 a week while the fans fork out on a trip to Aberdeen. That performance looked pre-meditated almost, I’d struggle to give 1 player a higher rating than 2. I struggle to see how an entire team, 11 plus the subs that came on be so poor. Not a single player won their individual battle.

Again if they had played remotely like they could, even a few of them then fine, no refund chat. Not a single player turned up, hence talk of reimbursing the transport.

The feel good vibe the club have will evaporate if supporters travel that far to see that drivel, players should’ve stayed on the coach because they were clearly not bothered about the game.

[One Day Soon]

...and then puts his arm up claiming something, what? offside? asking to be subbed?


I think in his head he's in a restaurant trying to call for the bill.

[MWHIBBIES]

"Our manager is nowhere near as good as this place thinks he is. Doesn't look like a winner this week."

Its our first season back up. We very nearly beat a Celtc team that is miles ahead of everyone else. We hammered The Rangers but somehow lost after hitting the post twice at least and being denied a cast iron penalty. We've come to Aberdeen after two high tempo games in quick succession and had a bad day at the office. We are pushing for a European place and are a good bet to finish third or fourth.

I'd say our manager is every bit as good as this place thinks he is.

We very nearly got hammered by that Celtic team though, we weren't great until he changed it. We lost to Rangers, all that matters. We got destroyed today.

Our home form is poor, he is consistently getting the team wrong, many of his signings haven't worked and our recent performances are nothing like 3rd or 4th place quality.

Need to get going again, starting with Ross County.

[bigwheel]

Just watched Steven Whittaker at the fourth goal. What is he up to?

He was rightly claims for offside against McKay..was just off when May played the set up pass...


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[Lago]

Dons midfield had it so easy today it was unreal. They won’t have an easier game I don’t think all season.

You know someone said earlier that we lack a leader on the park & thats right, showing my age here but Stanton & Blackley or Des Bremmner or Maty Jack would never have put up with that lack luster display.

[Beefster]

He was rightly claims for offside against McKay..was just off when May played the set up pass...


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That’s fine but he can’t do it at the expense of actually defending.

[madhatter]

He was rightly claims for offside against McKay..was just off when May played the set up pass...


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You play to the whistle. The number of hibs players that slowed to a jog with their hand held up or just praying for the whistle to go is a disgrace.

[Thecat23]

You know someone said earlier that we lack a leader on the park & thats right, showing my age here but Stanton & Blackley or Des Bremmner or Maty Jack would never have put up with that lack luster display.

Yep, hard to argue with that. Someone to help the other lads and take control.

[where'stheslope]

Efe has an off day, and everyone is on his back?

When he played for Celtic, we hoped he would make another of his famous howlers!

Since he been with us, he has been fairly steady, so long as its a one off, who cares!!!

[hibsbollah]

He was rightly claims for offside against McKay..was just off when May played the set up pass...


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Even if he was offside, you dont stop running when the guys just in front of you though :dunno: he'd be more use bringing GMS down than stop trying completely.

[Allant1981]

we were so poor today, couldn't actually believe what i was seeing, if only one or two have an off day you can get away with it but today there was 5 or 6 who were terrible, hopefully lennon gives them a few home truths

[One Day Soon]

We very nearly got hammered by that Celtic team though, we weren't great until he changed it. We lost to Rangers, all that matters. We got destroyed today.

Everyone very nearly gets hammered by Celtc. How mant teams can come back from 0-2 down against them?

Every commentator agreed that we thrashed The Rangers and should have won. Games like that can happen even when the manager is getting it absolutely right.

Our home form is poor, he is consistently getting the team wrong, many of his signings haven't worked and our recent performances are nothing like 3rd or 4th place quality.

We are clear in 4th and in touching distance of 3rd - he can keep 'consistently getting the team wrong' if we finish 3rd or 4th this season as far as I'm concerned. Our performance against The Rangers was exactly like 3rd or 4th place quality.

Need to get going again, starting with Ross County.

Agreed on that point.

[One Day Soon]

That’s fine but he can’t do it at the expense of actually defending.

A finicky but rather important point.

[neil7908]

The game next week is crucial. Pick up 3 points and we're set up well for the derby.

Draw or lose and the pressure will be well and truly on us.

[madhatter]

Efe has an off day, and everyone is on his back?

When he played for Celtic, we hoped he would make another of his famous howlers!

Since he been with us, he has been fairly steady, so long as its a one off, who cares!!!

I’d never forgive a “one off” when a whole team didn’t turn up. Efe wasn’t the only one at fault McGregor was terrible and let’s be honest the whole team were a disgrace.

I hope Lennon goes through them, they have made him look stupid. They made the travelling fans look like mugs and actually looked a bit like they had checked out for Xmas.

[WillowbraeHibby]

You know someone said earlier that we lack a leader on the park & thats right, showing my age here but Stanton & Blackley or Des Bremmner or Maty Jack would never have put up with that lack luster display.

Showing my age also, but you are so right..

[where'stheslope]

The game next week is crucial. Pick up 3 points and we're set up well for the derby.

Draw or lose and the pressure will be well and truly on us for the derby.

You're fast draining the glass!!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

NL "some of the players didn't want to know today and that is unacceptable" and "cowdenbeath could have beaten us today"

[Mikey09]

No. Difference is between players not turning up and doing their jobs. These players are paid to play football and in vast spells in that game we looked like a part time team. No shape, no teamwork, no effort, no conviction. In other words, professional footballers were neither professional or played much football. They still get paid their £1000-£3000 a week while the fans fork out on a trip to Aberdeen. That performance looked pre-meditated almost, I’d struggle to give 1 player a higher rating than 2. I struggle to see how an entire team, 11 plus the subs that came on be so poor. Not a single player won their individual battle.

Again if they had played remotely like they could, even a few of them then fine, no refund chat. Not a single player turned up, hence talk of reimbursing the transport.

The feel good vibe the club have will evaporate if supporters travel that far to see that drivel, players should’ve stayed on the coach because they were clearly not bothered about the game.


Get a grip man. As Stubbs put it "A tough game at the end of a tough week." You're trying to insinuate the players deliberately played like that?! We were really poor, it happens. Some folk need to grow up.

[madhatter]

Get a grip man. As Stubbs put it "A tough game at the end of a tough week." You're trying to insinuate the players deliberately played like that?! We were really poor, it happens. Some folk need to grow up.

Tell Neil Lennon the same thing then - he pretty much said the same as me. Questioning the players for not wanting to turn up today. It’s not hard to see. How can so many players not turn up on the same day? Who do you give pass marks to?

It may not be deliberate but I can’t help feeling some went up to Aberdeen today thinking “this has been a hard week at ‘work’, I can’t be bothered today, hopefully it’ll go by fast so I can get off home”.

[StevieH]

NL "some of the players didn't want to know today and that is unacceptable" and "cowdenbeath could have beaten us today"

Glad to see NL feels the same as most of us. Our main
strikers (excluding Oli, as don't think he is- yet)
(have scored one goal from open play in the last 6 games
if today's wasn't an OG - Thom that's our main problem
We play some very nice football, but don't move the
ball forward quickly enough, so easy to defend against

[cabbageandribs1875]

Glad to see NL feels the same as most of us. Our main
strikers (excluding Oli, as don't think he is- yet)
(have scored one goal from open play in the last 6 games
if today's wasn't an OG - Thom that's our main problem
We play some very nice football, but don't move the
ball forward quickly enough, so easy to defend against


i agreed with a comment geigan hit on early doors, there was no connection between midfield and forward, he also wondered if it would have been better playing stokes instead of bartley, fair comment tbf from a guy i don't have much time for

[Hibrandenburg]

we were so poor today, couldn't actually believe what i was seeing, if only one or two have an off day you can get away with it but today there was 5 or 6 who were terrible, hopefully lennon gives them a few home truths

:agree: But we need to be realistic and realise what a strenuous week this has been for the players. 3 games in 6 days against the top 3 played a big part in today's performance, the players looked shattered. We'll bounce back after a rest and everyone on here will be happy clapping again. Except our resident Yams that is.

[gaz1875]

Efe has an off day, and everyone is on his back?

When he played for Celtic, we hoped he would make another of his famous howlers!

Since he been with us, he has been fairly steady, so long as its a one off, who cares!!!

Efe made one big mistake today abetted by DMc, as Lennon pointed out he tried to take responsibility today, and at least tried to push the team forward. The midfield was posted missing gave nothing defensively and nothing going forward. Every week no matter the results this season I have been saying we pass the ball and stand still, no one goes forward after making a pass to create space, today the amount of times the midfield passed and stood still or ran backwards was unbelievable. This is why we struggle to score week in week out despite dominating possession in most matches.

[cabbageandribs1875]

the filthy bigoted vile hun 1 st.johnstone 0 after 5 mins

[superbam]

Efe has an off day, and everyone is on his back?

When he played for Celtic, we hoped he would make another of his famous howlers!

Since he been with us, he has been fairly steady, so long as its a one off, who cares!!!

Mistake for the fourth aside (and he wasnt soley culpable for that) I thought he was our best performer today

[cabbageandribs1875]

the filthy bigoted vile hun 1 st.johnstone 1

[Boyle89]

:agree: But we need to be realistic and realise what a strenuous week this has been for the players. 3 games in 6 days against the top 3 played a big part in today's performance, the players looked shattered. We'll bounce back after a rest and everyone on here will be happy clapping again. Except our resident Yams that is.
Thats a very mature way of looking at things. Some perspective needed by more of us. We are hibs after all and performances like this will happen from time to time. Even with lennon as manager we will still lose games like this.

[The Leith Dutch]

We very nearly got hammered by that Celtic team though, we weren't great until he changed it. We lost to Rangers, all that matters. We got destroyed today.

Our home form is poor, he is consistently getting the team wrong, many of his signings haven't worked and our recent performances are nothing like 3rd or 4th place quality.

Need to get going again, starting with Ross County.

The bit in bold appears to be saying that the nature of the performance was important when we got a point while irrelevant when we didn't get one. The Celtic game was a level of performance in the closing stages I have very rarely seen from a Hibs team.

You're spot on about the home form though: 11 points out of a possible 27 compared to 19 from a possible 30 on the road.
The goals conceded makes unpleasant reading there too - 14 goals in 9 home matches compared to 11 goals in 10 away matches (which was 7 in 9 prior to today's omnishambles).

That needs to improve.

[JimBHibees]

:agree: But we need to be realistic and realise what a strenuous week this has been for the players. 3 games in 6 days against the top 3 played a big part in today's performance, the players looked shattered. We'll bounce back after a rest and everyone on here will be happy clapping again. Except our resident Yams that is.

I do think the schedule needs to be taken into account no way should we be playing our 3 hardest games within 6 days. Aberdeen played on a Friday last week so had a big physical advantage.

[gaz1875]

I do think the schedule needs to be taken into account no way should we be playing our 3 hardest games within 6 days. Aberdeen played on a Friday last week so had a big physical advantage.

How could anyone tell for sure they would be the 3 hardest games before a ball was kicked. And to be fair, against the Huns it was pretty much our most dominant performance, just a crazy 5 minutes cost us.

[truehibernian]

Lennon should keep his thoughts to himself when talking about '2nd best team in country' and '2nd best footballing side' - that worked for Celtic when he was manager because he had an array of talent on the pitch and on the bench, and a squad with years of that hardened mentality. When you are trying to instil and ingrain that mentality (into Hibs) when we haven't had that for a good while, you have to be mindful that you are doing the opposition team talk for them if you aren't in a position to 'walk the talk'.

He did the Dons teamtalk yesterday as far as I'm concerned.

He's also now in a delicate position of administering tough love or giving them time off the clear heads and minds. I'd do the latter and give the lads a few days off, and get back to work Wednesday with full focus on 3 points v County. We are a good side, it's been a tough week mentally and physically and we will bounce back again I'm sure of it.

No disgrace losing to Aberdeen but not in the manner we did today - no leaders today, need a real captain in that side - haven't had one for a number of years.

[stantonhibby]

How could anyone tell for sure they would be the 3 hardest games before a ball was kicked. And to be fair, against the Huns it was pretty much our most dominant performance, just a crazy 5 minutes cost us.

Who would you have said our 3 hardest games would be against ?

[ekhibee]

It was a really disappointing performance against a team that were comfortably beaten by Rangers twice in a week- the same Rangers that we shouldv'e hammered on Wednesday. We just have to pick ourselves up and start again. I have to agree with what some people have said on other threads, we definitely need another striker, a target man that the wingers can use to full advantage, but that's just my opinion.

[gaz1875]

Who would you have said our 3 hardest games would be against ?

On paper Celtic Rangers and Hearts, Our hardest have been Aberdeen St Jonstone and Hamilton.

[stantonhibby]

On paper Celtic Rangers and Hearts, Our hardest have been Aberdeen St Jonstone and Hamilton.

So at the start of the season you would have a Cathro led Hearts ahead of Aberdeen.....aye ok.

[gaz1875]

So at the start of the season you would have a Cathro led Hearts ahead of Aberdeen.....aye ok.

Aye ok :aok:

[weecounty hibby]

In pretty much every season, bar a hand full, in all my time watching Hibs Celtic, Aberdeen and the Hun would be the toughest 3 matches. Tough week for us, we need now to make sure we put away the teams at the other end of the table

[ancient hibee]

Don’t think anyone could argue against this being the toughest seven days that any team in the league has had this season.Even so we should have beaten Rangers which would have given us a satisfactory four points.However our inability to put games to bed is costing us dear and has to be rectified.

[CallumHibs07]

Ambrose and McGregor are bombscares. Play 4 at the back with Hanlon and Porteous.

[truehibernian]

Don’t think anyone could argue against this being the toughest seven days that any team in the league has had this season.Even so we should have beaten Rangers which would have given us a satisfactory four points.However our inability to put games to bed is costing us dear and has to be rectified.

I'd say it's the opposite that needs fixed - defensively we are poor and we need two new full backs who are strong, energetic and have pace. Conceding soft goals will be our undoing (and is at present).

[Allant1981]

Ambrose and McGregor are bombscares. Play 4 at the back with Hanlon and Porteous.

sorry but what a lot of rubbish, ambrose has been possibly our best defender this season and mcregor is just coming back from a long injury

[green day]

Lennon should keep his thoughts to himself when talking about '2nd best team in country' and '2nd best footballing side' - that worked for Celtic when he was manager because he had an array of talent on the pitch and on the bench, and a squad with years of that hardened mentality. When you are trying to instil and ingrain that mentality (into Hibs) when we haven't had that for a good while, you have to be mindful that you are doing the opposition team talk for them if you aren't in a position to 'walk the talk'.

He did the Dons teamtalk yesterday as far as I'm concerned.

He's also now in a delicate position of administering tough love or giving them time off the clear heads and minds. I'd do the latter and give the lads a few days off, and get back to work Wednesday with full focus on 3 points v County. We are a good side, it's been a tough week mentally and physically and we will bounce back again I'm sure of it.

No disgrace losing to Aberdeen but not in the manner we did today - no leaders today, need a real captain in that side - haven't had one for a number of years.

Hang on though, its not just NL opinion, Stephen Craigan on BT (who never praises us) said we were the most entertaining side outside of Celtic.

I think on our day we are decent, but need - dare I say it - a few solid pros to complement some of our flair players.

Today was a nightmare all over the pitch, it wont be often that happens.

[truehibernian]

Hang on though, its not just NL opinion, Stephen Craigan on BT (who never praises us) said we were the most entertaining side outside of Celtic.

I think on our day we are decent, but need - dare I say it - a few solid pros to complement some of our flair players.

Today was a nightmare all over the pitch, it wont be often that happens.

I'd rather our manager doesn't say it so often and in the public domain and media - by all means say it in-house to build confidence but he set us up to have egg on our face today. As far as Craigan, he is a pundit and can say what he likes.

Like you say, and I agree, we are a very decent side and we will inevitably have an off day - performances like the Rangers game show we're not far away from being second best but we need a good, consistent season to build on - so if we get top 4 I'll be very happy indeed.

[cleanyman]

Ambrose and McGregor are bombscares. Play 4 at the back with Hanlon and Porteous.

I'd add the whole defence in there

It's pathetic at times. Look no further than the 'captain'

[Allant1981]

I'd add the whole defence in there

It's pathetic at times. Look no further than the 'captain'

another load of nonsense

[weecounty hibby]

I'd add the whole defence in there

It's pathetic at times. Look no further than the 'captain'

Absolute pish. Paul Hanlon would walk into every team in Scotland except Celtic. He was not alone on Wednesday by having a daft 10 mins and it sounds like everyone today was poor. Hamlin is a consistently high or former for Hibs

[ancient hibee]

I'd say it's the opposite that needs fixed - defensively we are poor and we need two new full backs who are strong, energetic and have pace. Conceding soft goals will be our undoing (and is at present).
In my opinion putting the game to bed also means defending a lead not necessarily adding to it:greengrin

[Boyle89]

I'd add the whole defence in there

It's pathetic at times. Look no further than the 'captain'

Hanlon was out best defender today. He didnt get skinned for a goal or get caught in possession which gave them a goal.

[CallumHibs07]

sorry but what a lot of rubbish, ambrose has been possibly our best defender this season and mcregor is just coming back from a long injury

I'd rather my defenders don't constantly look like they are about to give away the ball, he's been lucky on several occasions this season and today got caught out.

[cleanyman]

Absolute pish. Paul Hanlon would walk into every team in Scotland except Celtic. He was not alone on Wednesday by having a daft 10 mins and it sounds like everyone today was poor. Hamlin is a consistently high or former for Hibs

No he wouldn't.

[21.05.2016]

Well where the hell did that performance come from?! Absolute shambles. Aberdeen are a good team but they didn't even need to be at their best today, we were simply dreadful.

Worst hibs performance for quite some time. Got off to a relatively decent start but after they scored the first it was like all the heads went down. Too many players hiding and looking uninterested today for some reason. Not the performance of a Lennon team and I fully expect that he is furious. The only one for me that would get even a slight pass mark would be Barker, he made some good runs and tried to create.

No need for a complete over reaction, it was a bad day at the office but lets just hope it was a one off. Hopefully it's a massive kick up the arse though.

[Northernhibee]

No he wouldn't.

Aberdeen were sniffing around him in the summer. Yes he would.

[weecounty hibby]

No he wouldn't.

Aberdeen wanted to sign him, he is better and younger than Hughes at hearts, he is better than wilson at rangers. They are our main rivals so unless you think that there are players in the bottom half of the table who would keep him out of their teams, then aye he would!!

[NAE NOOKIE]

Absolutely nobody had a good game today. Our passing and movement were terrible, far too many static players with no movement in front of the ball either in midfield or up front. The number of times the ball was passed to a Hibs player with 3 or 4 Aberdeen players on him was bad enough, but if they had that number of players on a guy where the hell were the Hibs players exploiting the space they must have been leaving elsewhere on the pitch?

Aberdeen pressed really well, but we helped them by having McGinn and McGeouch playing like holding midfield players at times, not one of them managed to get into a forward position where they could damage them apart from McGinn's shot on half time .... it meant Aberdeen could have two guys on Boyle and Barker all the time and all their central players had to deal with was Murray, no wonder he was so ineffective when you allied it to his woeful ball control at times.

That was terrible and we have to find a way to put it behind us, because play like that in any game and we will lose.

[cleanyman]

Aberdeen were sniffing around him in the summer. Yes he would.

But didn't sign him

Cannae be that good then

[Northernhibee]

But didn't sign him

Cannae be that good then

You're quite right, signing a player under contract is just like buying a tin of beans from a supermarket.

We told Aberdeen to bolt.

[ancient hibee]

He wouldn’t look out of place in the Celtic defence.Their Centre halves aren’t great.

[Brightside]

No he wouldn't.

No bother Gail.

[Brightside]

But didn't sign him

Cannae be that good then

He turned down Aberdeen.

[Swedish hibee]

Just in... Wtf happened!!! Oh Jeez.

[Allant1981]

I'd rather my defenders don't constantly look like they are about to give away the ball, he's been lucky on several occasions this season and today got caught out.

he has been good this season but was horrendous today, no point in making up stories

[lucky]

Just back to the hotel, spoke to good few dons fans in the pub and basically they thought today was a game to far for Hibs after the Old Firm. Most believe Hibs will bounce back and still challenge for second. They were impressed with size of the Hibs support and the green Santa hats. A few said that if they lost McInnes then they’d want Lennon but I told them he wouldn’t leave Hibs for them. Overall a crap game but a good city to visit

[emerald green]

I said before the game I wanted our recent league record against Aberdeen to change and it certainly has. It's now 9 games without a win against them and 8 without a goal.

But Hibs are the second best team in the league are they not? Reality check today.

[Hibernia&Alba]

What was that? What the hell was it? I travelled to Aberdeen for that. Unrecognisable form the team which played so well against Rangers just three days earlier. Shambolic performance. I went straight to bed when I got home, so I'm now awake bright and early. That was so bad.

[plhibs]

Have to wonder about the schedule we were the only team that had two days between games.

hibs 3 games in 7 days
dons/hearts/Dundee 3 in 9 days
all the others 3 in 8 days

Maybe the first two games took a lot out of the team. Not an excuse it just bothers me.

[Fergos]

Lennon should keep his thoughts to himself when talking about '2nd best team in country' and '2nd best footballing side' - that worked for Celtic when he was manager because he had an array of talent on the pitch and on the bench, and a squad with years of that hardened mentality. When you are trying to instil and ingrain that mentality (into Hibs) when we haven't had that for a good while, you have to be mindful that you are doing the opposition team talk for them if you aren't in a position to 'walk the talk'.

He did the Dons teamtalk yesterday as far as I'm concerned.

He's also now in a delicate position of administering tough love or giving them time off the clear heads and minds. I'd do the latter and give the lads a few days off, and get back to work Wednesday with full focus on 3 points v County. We are a good side, it's been a tough week mentally and physically and we will bounce back again I'm sure of it.

No disgrace losing to Aberdeen but not in the manner we did today - no leaders today, need a real captain in that side - haven't had one for a number of years.

Totally agree.

Cmon the Hibs.

[ancient hibee]

Have to wonder about the schedule we were the only team that had two days between games.

hibs 3 games in 7 days
dons/hearts/Dundee 3 in 9 days
all the others 3 in 8 days

Maybe the first two games took a lot out of the team. Not an excuse it just bothers me.
It is a reason not an excuse.Probably as much mentally as physically.

[HibeeDaz6270]

Personally i dont think Bartley fits in to the team. I think he takes up space for McGeouch to get on the ball at times. I can see the use for him at times, but too ofte he also gets caught out of position for the role hes meant to do. I would like to see Slivka given a chance to give us another creative player infront of McGeouch to feed passes in to.

Another big problem for us is upfront, especially with Murray up top. We do not have a Striker with the presence or ability to take it in, hold the ball up and bring others in to play. Quite often when our midfielders such as McGeouch and McGinn have the ball there options of a pass are limited which slows them down and are sometimes caught in possession.

Aberdeen had options all over the park when they had the ball.

It was the wrong decision not to play Stokes. Whilst he has been far from his best so far, he at least has the ability to bring others in to play.

[Lancs Harp]

Personally i dont think Bartley fits in to the team. I think he takes up space for McGeouch to get on the ball at times. I can see the use for him at times, but too ofte he also gets caught out of position for the role hes meant to do. I would like to see Slivka given a chance to give us another creative player infront of McGeouch to feed passes in to.

Another big problem for us is upfront, especially with Murray up top. We do not have a Striker with the presence or ability to take it in, hold the ball up and bring others in to play. Quite often when our midfielders such as McGeouch and McGinn have the ball there options of a pass are limited which slows them down and are sometimes caught in possession.

Aberdeen had options all over the park when they had the ball.

It was the wrong decision not to play Stokes. Whilst he has been far from his best so far, he at least has the ability to bring others in to play.


Bartley often provides the balance needed to allow Dylan and SJM to play. OK didnt work yesterday but in big games of recent times it has. A midfield three of Slivka, SJM and Dylan is potentially very exciting but defensively weak, none of them can tackle leaving the the back four (or whatever) under pressure. I'd guess Marv has as many MOTM performances in the last year as anyone.

[Moulin Yarns]

Have to wonder about the schedule we were the only team that had two days between games.

hibs 3 games in 7 days
dons/hearts/Dundee 3 in 9 days
all the others 3 in 8 days

Maybe the first two games took a lot out of the team. Not an excuse it just bothers me.

The teams we played in those first two games got humped at the weekend as well. I wonder if we softened them up for those defeats :wink:

[oneone73]

Have to wonder about the schedule we were the only team that had two days between games.

hibs 3 games in 7 days
dons/hearts/Dundee 3 in 9 days
all the others 3 in 8 days

Maybe the first two games took a lot out of the team. Not an excuse it just bothers me.

We had 3 games in 6 days. The third a lunchtime kick-off.

[JimBHibees]

We had 3 games in 6 days. The third a lunchtime kick-off.

After the longest journey in the league.