Prince Harry to be maried

[Hibbyradge]

I, for one, am truly delighted. So much so that I was going to post this in the Good News thread, but I decided that it deserved a thread of its own.

There's been such a lot of depressing news recently so this has come along at exactly the right time to cheer us all up. Good old Harry, doing the right thing for his country. Again!

It's a shame they haven't specified the date yet as I'll need to get a new outfit for the street parties and there's quite a difference in temperature from early Spring to the middle of June.

No doubt a baby will be just around the corner too, so that'll give us all a welcome distraction from Brexit. I do hope it's a boy.

[calumhibee1]

Will it be a public holiday? All I care about, although I will admit Harry seems an alright bloke.

[-Jonesy-]

Not just married, married to a REAL LIFE CELEBRITY!!!!

I've almost already totally forgotten that all our futures are going down the jet fighter as I'm pure gushing with positive patriotism now

[snooky]

I'm so excited about it all. Another royal wedding!
O the joy. I'm just beside myself. :coffee:

[Mikey]

How much is this going to cost me?

[snooky]

How much is this going to cost me?

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[Hibbyradge]

How much is this going to cost me?

http://newsthump.com/2017/11/27/royal-engagement-delights-people-who-enjoy-paying-for-weddings-theyre-not-invited-to/

[stoneyburn hibs]

I wonder what auld Phil makes of it all.

[lord bunberry]

I couldn’t care less about the royals, but what gets on my nerves is the nauseating coverage this will get on tv and radio.

[Pretty Boy]

This news has put the precarious political situation in Spain, the deadlock in Brexit talks, the threat of a nuclear capable North Korea, the political unrest in central Africa and the continuing tensions in the Middle East in perspctive.

Simply wonderful news and well deserving of rolling news coverage and the top billing it has earned in the media today when compared to the trivialities above.

God save the Queen and all of her wonderful extended family.

[Hibbyradge]

This news has put the precarious political situation in Spain, the deadlock in Brexit talks, the threat of a nuclear capable North Korea, the political unrest in central Africa and the continuing tensions in the Middle East in perspctive.

Simply wonderful news and well deserving of rolling news coverage and the top billing it has earned in the media today when compared to the trivialities above.

God save the Queen and all of her wonderful extended family.

Huzzah!

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[johnbc70]

Give the boy a break, not a massive fan of the Royals but he never chose this lifestyle. I get the impression he would drop it all in a minute as well to lead a normal life. Must have been hard losing your Mum at such an early age.

[overdrive]

Give the boy a break, not a massive fan of the Royals but he never chose this lifestyle. I get the impression he would drop it all in a minute as well to lead a normal life. Must have been hard losing your Mum at such an early age.

This is where I’m at with this. Saying that, I’m bloody devastated... Suits won’t be the same without her.

[Mibbes Aye]

Give the boy a break, not a massive fan of the Royals but he never chose this lifestyle. I get the impression he would drop it all in a minute as well to lead a normal life. Must have been hard losing your Mum at such an early age.

:agree:

As I get older I get less and less critical of the Royals.

In my younger adult years I was mortally affronted at the whole concept of the Royal Family, I still don't think it's a defensible notion but I'm actually not that bothered now and from a political point of view, I recognise they can and do represent 'soft power' when it has come to UK foreign relations, even if that hasn't always been wielded in the most satisfactory ways by PMs. I also think that the Queen's PMs will have generally benefited from their weekly audiences with her - May is her thirteenth, so she's heard just about everything and probably proves wise counsel. Certainly there's never been the sense she has overstepped the role that a 'constitutional monarch' is meant to provide.

As for Harry, his missteps have been well-publicised but I think I probably did worse at his age, without the relentless spotlight of attention. While some will argue he is born into privilege (and I don't disagree), the important thing is what he does with that privilege. As he has grown up, he seems to have thrown himself into using his status to promote good causes (particularly veterans). He's maybe not the dissolute princes from the history books.

[Glory Lurker]

It flat out depresses me that we still have this circus in the 21st century.

[WeeRussell]

Give the boy a break, not a massive fan of the Royals but he never chose this lifestyle. I get the impression he would drop it all in a minute as well to lead a normal life. Must have been hard losing your Mum at such an early age.

Agree with most of what you’re saying but I don’t think anyone is actually having a go at Harry himself. Although there will be those that don’t like the guy, most will be like me (and as mentioned above) it’s the way the media and a lot of our public go on like it’s important to us, or that we should all be rejoicing in it.

I don’t having anything against the guy personally, but I care more about the colour of my next ***** than his wedding.

[Sergey]

:agree:

As I get older I get less and less critical of the Royals.

In my younger adult years I was mortally affronted at the whole concept of the Royal Family, I still don't think it's a defensible notion but I'm actually not that bothered now and from a political point of view, I recognise they can and do represent 'soft power' in a political sense, even if that hasn't always been wielded in the most satisfactory ways by PMs. I also think that the Queen's PMs will have generally benefited from their weekly audiences with her - May is her thirteenth, so she's heard just about everything and probably proves wise counsel. Certainly there's never been the sense she has overstepped the role that a 'constitutional monarch' is meant to provide.

As for Harry, his missteps have been well-publicised but I think I probably did worse at his age, without the relentless spotlight of attention. While some will argue he is born into privilege (and I don't disagree), the important thing is what he does with that privilege. As he has grown up, he seems to have thrown himself into using his status to promote good causes (particularly veterans). He's maybe not the dissolute princes from the history books.

I'm not wanting to get into a hotted debate, but the bit I've highlighted in bold is what irks me.

He has promoted the Help For Heroes charity. A charity that I don't agree with for a number of reasons. The general public should not be asked to pay for rehabilitation hospitals for the injured and wounded from the Iraq/Afghan conflicts (those conflicts have been discussed to death). That is the job of the ******' government who took us into them in the first place - NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC. - the HFH charity has been promoted on political grounds with the backing of the Royals and Government at the expense of others who are losing bundles to that specific charities gain (Lady Haig being one).

14 minutes of utter gushing tosh on the lunchtime news as the headline story had me rewinding to the opening scenes of Bargain Hunt.

[Mibbes Aye]

I'm not wanting to get into a hotted debate, but the bit I've highlighted in bold is what irks me.

He has promoted the Help For Heroes charity. A charity that I don't agree with for a number of reasons. The general public should not be asked to pay for rehabilitation hospitals for the injured and wounded from the Iraq/Afghan conflicts (those conflicts have been discussed to death). That is the job of the ******' government who took us into them in the first place - NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC. - the HFH charity has been promoted on political grounds with the backing of the Royals and Government at the expense of others who are losing bundles to that specific charities gain (Lady Haig being one).

14 minutes of utter gushing tosh on the lunchtime news as the headline story had me rewinding to the opening scenes of Bargain Hunt.

Not disagreeing with you, but I wasn't aware of any formal connection between Harry and HFH.

When I posted, I was thinking of the Invictus Games, which he has really promoted heavily. The only other thing I'm really aware of is stuff he's done around HIV/AIDS in Africa, which IIRC was close to his mother's heart.

If I'm being pedantic, the 'general public' pay for rehab hospitals regardless - whether through direct taxation or through charity :greengrin. I think I agree with your sentiment however, it should come from public funds (i.e. most likely through direct taxation).

[Mibbes Aye]

Agree with most of what you’re saying but I don’t think anyone is actually having a go at Harry himself. Although there will be those that don’t like the guy, most will be like me (and as mentioned above) it’s the way the media and a lot of our public go on like it’s important to us, or that we should all be rejoicing in it.

I don’t having anything against the guy personally, but I care more about the colour of my next ***** than his wedding.

I think you highlight an important point.

I first saw news of the engagement on a 'broadsheet' news website, and I clicked on the link to see what it said. I'm not particularly curious, but without a doubt that link, and probably even more so on the 'redtop' websites, will have many times more clicks than the analysis of why the 'hard border' in Ireland is threatening Brexit.

There's no right or wrong to that, I think it just reflects that people will be interested in huge numbers and who am I or anyone else to judge?

The media will follow that, hence why Megan whatsit has been under relentless media attention for as long as she has been with Harry, whereas most people in the street would struggle to name the Irish foreign minister, or even the taoiseach, despite the fact that they will probably have more influence on our lives and our children's lives than the aforementioned Megan.

Human nature, I guess.

[Sergey]

Not disagreeing with you, but I wasn't aware of any formal connection between Harry and HFH.

When I posted, I was thinking of the Invictus Games, which he has really promoted heavily. The only other thing I'm really aware of is stuff he's done around HIV/AIDS in Africa, which IIRC was close to his mother's heart.

If I'm being pedantic, the 'general public' pay for rehab hospitals regardless - whether through direct taxation or through charity :greengrin. I think I agree with your sentiment however, it should come from public funds (i.e. most likely through direct taxation).

:aok:

It just seems that one 'charity' is receiving preferential treatment/marketing/backing from government; at the expense of many others who have fended for themselves since their inauguration.

Falklands War veterans don't qualify for HFH care, BTW. That was a legit war seemingly.

[Pretty Boy]

Give the boy a break, not a massive fan of the Royals but he never chose this lifestyle. I get the impression he would drop it all in a minute as well to lead a normal life. Must have been hard losing your Mum at such an early age.

I’ve no issue with him personally. It’s the whole media circus around it that sickens me. Tens of thousands of people are in dangerous of losing their livelihoods and lives in Bali and it’s bumped down the news because a couple in their 30s have done what thousands of people do every year.

The relationship and interest some people have with the royals in this country baffles me. I can’t view them as anything other than a curious relic of an outdated system yet some seem absolutely obsessed with everything they do to the extent a guy who is to all intents and purposes pretty unimportant in the hereditary system dominates the news for a full day at the expense of far more important issues that have far more impact on everyone’s life.

[Mibbes Aye]

:aok:

It just seems that one 'charity' is receiving preferential treatment/marketing/backing from government; at the expense of many others who have fended for themselves since their inauguration.

Falklands War veterans don't qualify for HFH care, BTW. That was a legit war seemingly.

My concern there would be that from experience, it is far from rare that specific organisations in the third sector/charities can become very successful at dominating the funding that central or local government can offer.

Sometimes that can be a good thing - if the particular organisation is well-organised, delivers well and has the right ethos - but it can also lead to organisations dominating their particular sector and that raises questions about whether it stifles choice, innovation and diversity. And ultimately, worse outcomes for those who are meant to be accessing and receiving support.

[Sergey]

My concern there would be that from experience, it is far from rare that specific organisations in the third sector/charities can become very successful at dominating the funding that central or local government can offer.

Sometimes that can be a good thing - if the particular organisation is well-organised, delivers well and has the right ethos - but it can also lead to organisations dominating their particular sector and that raises questions about whether it stifles choice, innovation and diversity. And ultimately, worse outcomes for those who are meant to be accessing and receiving support.

Mibbes - I bow to your understanding, I'm merely an onlooker who donates to British Legion every month (my late fathers request).

Something doesn't sit right with the whole 'charity' set-up. For political figures and the royals to actively promote fund raising to a given cause seems uncouth and underhand. It does give the likes of whatever royal it is again that we're discussing something to do to eke out his legitimacy as a 'good upstanding citizen' and a 'credit to the nation'.

Let him pay for his own wedding - he couldn't afford it on army wages. :greengrin

[johnbc70]

I’ve no issue with him personally. It’s the whole media circus around it that sickens me. Tens of thousands of people are in dangerous of losing their livelihoods and lives in Bali and it’s bumped down the news because a couple in their 30s have done what thousands of people do every year.

The relationship and interest some people have with the royals in this country baffles me. I can’t view them as anything other than a curious relic of an outdated system yet some seem absolutely obsessed with everything they do to the extent a guy who is to all intents and purposes pretty unimportant in the hereditary system dominates the news for a full day at the expense of far more important issues that have far more impact on everyone’s life.

I know what your saying about Bali, but I don't see any threads on here discussing the impending potential disaster in Bali and the impact it may have, but lots of us commenting on the news today about Prince Harry. What will have more of an impact on our lives?

[lapsedhibee]

I think it just reflects that people will be interested in huge numbers and who am I or anyone else to judge?

How I wish this were generally true. I certainly am. I would far rather hear 14 minutes of the national news on, say, 2 to the power of 274,207,281 − 1 (or anything else of interest to GIMPS) than who a fairly poor soap actress is getting married to.

[hibsbollah]

I’ve no issue with him personally. It’s the whole media circus around it that sickens me. Tens of thousands of people are in dangerous of losing their livelihoods and lives in Bali and it’s bumped down the news because a couple in their 30s have done what thousands of people do every year.

The relationship and interest some people have with the royals in this country baffles me. I can’t view them as anything other than a curious relic of an outdated system yet some seem absolutely obsessed with everything they do to the extent a guy who is to all intents and purposes pretty unimportant in the hereditary system dominates the news for a full day at the expense of far more important issues that have far more impact on everyone’s life.

Agree completely.

The race of this girl is also apparently something of interest to people. Here's an article in the supposed 'republican' Guardian that encapsulates what wrong with the coverage. Should we care? Does any of it matter? Are black people somehow going to feel blessed that the Saxe Coburgs, sorry, Windsors, have lowered themselves to muddy their bloodline up? And is the heir of the throne allowed to marry catholics, since clearly 'mixed races' are now OK?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/prince-harry-meghan-markle-britishness-monarchy-relevant

It's all an embarrassment to the Enlightenment, to be honest.

[Mibbes Aye]

Mibbes - I bow to your understanding, I'm merely an onlooker who donates to British Legion every month (my late fathers request).

Something doesn't sit right with the whole 'charity' set-up. For political figures and the royals to actively promote fund raising to a given cause seems uncouth and underhand. It does give the likes of whatever royal it is again that we're discussing something to do to eke out his legitimacy as a 'good upstanding citizen' and a 'credit to the nation'.

Let him pay for his own wedding - he couldn't afford it on army wages. :greengrin

I can see where you are coming from :aok:

That last line is a can of worms :greengrin. I think the families pay for the wedding itself (cue argument about how that is actually public money anyway) but the security bill (not just given the families, but the foreign dignitaries, let alone our esteemed PM and Leader of the Opposition) will be public purse and it's an Aladdin's cave of targets.

[Mibbes Aye]

Agree completely.

The race of this girl is also apparently something of interest to people. Here's an article in the supposed 'republican' Guardian that encapsulates what wrong with the coverage. Should we care? Does any of it matter? Are black people somehow going to feel blessed that the Saxe Coburgs, sorry, Windsors, have lowered themselves to muddy their bloodline up? And is the heir of the throne allowed to marry catholics, since clearly 'mixed races' are now OK?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/prince-harry-meghan-markle-britishness-monarchy-relevant

It's all an embarrassment to the Enlightenment, to be honest.

Lots of people do care though. Or at least are very interested. You or I might not be, and we can comfort ourselves by knowing what the Enlightenment was and being able to articulate it to some poor ignorant souls who are labouring under 'false consciousness' :rolleyes:

I know you support Corbyn and I'm sorry but your post is reflective of that very superior attitude his support shows to the people they claim to represent. The reason it's big news is because lots of people are interested in it, rather than how many secular 'angels of the people' can dance on the head of a pin.

[hibsbollah]

Lots of people do care though. Or at least are very interested. You or I might not be, and we can comfort ourselves by knowing what the Enlightenment was and being able to articulate it to some poor ignorant souls who are labouring under 'false consciousness' :rolleyes:

I know you support Corbyn and I'm sorry but your post is reflective of that very superior attitude his support shows to the people they claim to represent. The reason it's big news is because lots of people are interested in it, rather than how many secular 'angels of the people' can dance on the head of a pin.

You have a really unpleasant habit of judging posters on their beliefs on unrelated subjects. I was of the opinion that the Royal family is an institution at odds with the modern world way before I was aware of who Jeremy Corbyn was. At what point did I mention 'false consciousness'? Or angels of the people and dancing on the head of a pin? And please show me where I'm displaying a 'superior attitude'? Are you trying to suggest I'm looking down my noses at people that like the royal family? I'm absolutely not, I'm just baffled by it and I don't share it. You've no interest in engaging with the content of my post, which is absolutely up to you, but please don't start a boring strawmanathon.

The news coverage is propaganda that would make Pyongyang blush. I just find it all very bizarre.

[Colr]

Agree completely.

The race of this girl is also apparently something of interest to people. Here's an article in the supposed 'republican' Guardian that encapsulates what wrong with the coverage. Should we care? Does any of it matter? Are black people somehow going to feel blessed that the Saxe Coburgs, sorry, Windsors, have lowered themselves to muddy their bloodline up? And is the heir of the throne allowed to marry catholics, since clearly 'mixed races' are now OK?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/prince-harry-meghan-markle-britishness-monarchy-relevant

It's all an embarrassment to the Enlightenment, to be honest.

I agree that some of the coverage with regard to race is a comlplete embarrassment.

[Mibbes Aye]

You have a really unpleasant habit of judging posters on their beliefs on unrelated subjects. I was of the opinion that the Royal family is an institution at odds with the modern world way before I was aware of who Jeremy Corbyn was. At what point did I mention 'false consciousness'? Or angels of the people and dancing on the head of a pin? And please show me where I'm displaying a 'superior attitude'? Are you trying to suggest I'm looking down my noses at people that like the royal family? I'm absolutely not, I'm just baffled by it and I don't share it. You've no interest in engaging with the content of my post, which is absolutely up to you, but please don't start a boring strawmanathon.

The news coverage is propaganda that would make Pyongyang blush. I just find it all very bizarre.

The post you responded to was about people's interest in the Royals. Your response was about people's interest in the Royals. You ended it by describing it as an embarrassment to the Enlightenment.

It sounded like you were writing for Pseud's Corner. That's why I posted. People being interested in the royals isn't really an embarrassment to the Enlightenment is it? I mean really? I'm engaging with the content of your post here, for the avoidance of doubt.

To suggest it is an embarrassment comes across as looking down at people, rather than being 'baffled', as you described it. If you were baffled, you wouldn't have ended on such a pejorative tone.

You've also no place talking about straw men or hyperbole - "...would make Pyongyang blush". Really???

[hibsbollah]

The post you responded to was about people's interest in the Royals. Your response was about people's interest in the Royals. You ended it by describing it as an embarrassment to the Enlightenment.

It sounded like you were writing for Pseud's Corner. That's why I posted. People being interested in the royals isn't really an embarrassment to the Enlightenment is it? I mean really? I'm engaging with the content of your post here, for the avoidance of doubt.

To suggest it is an embarrassment comes across as looking down at people, rather than being 'baffled', as you described it. If you were baffled, you wouldn't have ended on such a pejorative tone.

You've also no place talking about straw men or hyperbole - "...would make Pyongyang blush". Really???

If you read my post, you will see I was discussing the racial element of the coverage. The nature of the coverage in general, and the article in particular, is an embarrasment to Enlightenment thinking, which gave us the belief that men were created equal. I never said anything about people being interested in the royals, you're still misunderstanding\misrepresenting what I'm saying.

[Mibbes Aye]

If you read my post, you will see I was discussing the racial element of the coverage. The nature of the coverage in general, and the article in particular, is an embarrasment to Enlightenment thinking, which gave us the belief that men were created equal. I never said anything about people being interested in the royals, you're still misunderstanding\misrepresenting what I'm saying.


I’ve no issue with him personally. It’s the whole media circus around it that sickens me. Tens of thousands of people are in dangerous of losing their livelihoods and lives in Bali and it’s bumped down the news because a couple in their 30s have done what thousands of people do every year.

The relationship and interest some people have with the royals in this country baffles me. I can’t view them as anything other than a curious relic of an outdated system yet some seem absolutely obsessed with everything they do to the extent a guy who is to all intents and purposes pretty unimportant in the hereditary system dominates the news for a full day at the expense of far more important issues that have far more impact on everyone’s life.


Agree completely........

.......It's all an embarrassment to the Enlightenment, to be honest.

Yup, see where you're coming from :wink:

In fairness, the bit in the middle that I've not quoted, I don't think we are apart on, though I would have worded it differently. I don't think anyone really cares too much about that though.

The bit I've said before still stands however. People like reading about this sort of stuff, like hearing about it, viewing it and generally taking it all in.

That doesn't make them an embarrassment to the Enlightenment.

[hibsbollah]

Yup, see where you're coming from :wink:

In fairness, the bit in the middle that I've not quoted, I don't think we are apart on, though I would have worded it differently. I don't think anyone really cares too much about that though.

The bit I've said before still stands however. People like reading about this sort of stuff, like hearing about it, viewing it and generally taking it all in.

That doesn't make them an embarrassment to the Enlightenment.

:dunno: No it doesn't. Other things, like the belief that one class or race of humans are deserving than more respect than others, make them that.

[RyeSloan]

I'm not wanting to get into a hotted debate, but the bit I've highlighted in bold is what irks me.

He has promoted the Help For Heroes charity. A charity that I don't agree with for a number of reasons. The general public should not be asked to pay for rehabilitation hospitals for the injured and wounded from the Iraq/Afghan conflicts (those conflicts have been discussed to death). That is the job of the ******' government who took us into them in the first place - NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC. - the HFH charity has been promoted on political grounds with the backing of the Royals and Government at the expense of others who are losing bundles to that specific charities gain (Lady Haig being one).

14 minutes of utter gushing tosh on the lunchtime news as the headline story had me rewinding to the opening scenes of Bargain Hunt.

Just because their is a Charity to support a specific cause doesn't mean their isn't government money being spent on the same cause or indeed on that charity itself.

Most of the biggest charities in the U.K. receive large amounts of government money either directly or through contracts.

Here is a perfect example of the government and HFH working together:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-help-for-our-heroes


Obviously there are exceptions but it's a misconception to believe that just because a charity exists it automatically means there is no public money being provided to them or its cause.

[Deansy]

Hope she fully realises exactly what she's marrying into - if it doesn't work out she'll need to avoid driving through tunnels for the rest of her life !

[Scouse Hibee]

Good on them,I like a good news story.
Harry seems an all round good guy who has done many good things so far in his life, happy to see him settle down. Will probably become the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

[The Pointer]

Always thought he was a decent bloke but I give the marriage 5 years max. The future in-laws appear a right bunch of hicks of step this and step that with both parents having been declared bankrupt.

As for her she's set herself out as a virtue-signalling, right-on, opinionated, feminist and probably a gold-digger to boot.

[Hibbyradge]

Always thought he was a decent bloke but I give the marriage 5 years max. The future in-laws appear a right bunch of hicks of step this and step that with both parents having been declared bankrupt.

As for her she's set herself out as a virtue-signalling, right-on, opinionated, feminist and probably a gold-digger to boot.

"Probably a good digger".

That phrase says more about the author than the subject.

[CropleyWasGod]

Am I the only person who read the thread title and thought... "Harry is having a transition. Now that IS awareness-raising...."?

Princess Marie has a nice ring (pun intended) to it.

[Geo_1875]

I don't understand the fuss about his fiancees racial background. I believe there were any number of black men in the royal family in the 60's. It was a different time and drugs may have been involved.

[hibsbollah]

I don't understand the fuss about his fiancees racial background. I believe there were any number of black men in the royal family in the 60's. It was a different time and drugs may have been involved.

I think you're confusing the Windsors with Sly and the Family Stone.

[CropleyWasGod]

I don't understand the fuss about his fiancees racial background. I believe there were any number of black men in the royal family in the 60's. It was a different time and drugs may have been involved.

I think it's being celebrated because it's symptomatic of some of the social changes in Britain in the last 50 years;celebration rather than fuss. I have heard a few mixed-race couples on the radio making that very point.

It's not that long since a King had to abdicate over a divorcee. And, remember the rumblings about Harry's mum wanting to marry a Muslim.....

[JeMeSouviens]

I think you highlight an important point.

I first saw news of the engagement on a 'broadsheet' news website, and I clicked on the link to see what it said. I'm not particularly curious, but without a doubt that link, and probably even more so on the 'redtop' websites, will have many times more clicks than the analysis of why the 'hard border' in Ireland is threatening Brexit.

There's no right or wrong to that, I think it just reflects that people will be interested in huge numbers and who am I or anyone else to judge?

The media will follow that, hence why Megan whatsit has been under relentless media attention for as long as she has been with Harry, whereas most people in the street would struggle to name the Irish foreign minister, or even the taoiseach, despite the fact that they will probably have more influence on our lives and our children's lives than the aforementioned Megan.

Human nature, I guess.

It's indisputable that there's a ton of interest in this and that the media are reflecting that as least as much as they are instigating it.

However, that's no excuse for the bbc and other media to adopt the position that we must all be delighted and rejoice at this news. Tons of folk are interested in the x-factor but we aren't all assumed to be fervent karaoke-ists.

It's the same phenomenon as the poppy, imo, there is an establishment political position and no dissent will be catered for or tolerated.

[JeMeSouviens]

Always thought he was a decent bloke but I give the marriage 5 years max. The future in-laws appear a right bunch of hicks of step this and step that with both parents having been declared bankrupt.

As for her she's set herself out as a virtue-signalling, right-on, opinionated, feminist and probably a gold-digger to boot.

A friend of a friend had the delight of serving him and his entourage in the London club she worked in and apparently he was an insufferable ****. But that was 10+ years ago so I guess he may have grown up. :dunno:

[snooky]

I think you're confusing the Windsors with Sly and the Family Stone.

He probably meant "sly family stoned".

[CropleyWasGod]

I think you're confusing the Windsors with Sly and the Family Stone.

Everyday people, you mean?

[Pete]

So, a marriage falls apart and the woman has a ginger son with another guy she's humping. The grandparents bump off the woman for making a fool of their family, so the ginger kid gets back at the racist grandparents by dating a black chick.

They're not so different after all.

[Geo_1875]

So, a marriage falls apart and the woman has a ginger son with another guy she's humping. The grandparents bump off the woman for making a fool of their family, so the ginger kid gets back at the racist grandparents by dating a black chick.

They're not so different after all.

In next weeks episode of Soap?

[ronaldo7]

I don't understand the fuss about his fiancees racial background. I believe there were any number of black men in the royal family in the 60's. It was a different time and drugs may have been involved.

Victoria was partial to a wee Indian, prior to take aways.

[snooky]

Victoria was partial to a wee Indian, prior to take aways.

Does Becks know about this? :dunno:

[ronaldo7]

Does Becks know about this? :dunno:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12670110 :wink:

[Colr]

Who’s against a day off?

The usual mob

https://yougov.co.uk/opi/surveys/results#/survey/99efa508-d424-11e7-96ad-7117bf051192/question/b8239474-d424-11e7-b5bc-458f0b866b90/age

[Just Alf]

Who’s against a day off?

The usual mob

https://yougov.co.uk/opi/surveys/results#/survey/99efa508-d424-11e7-96ad-7117bf051192/question/b8239474-d424-11e7-b5bc-458f0b866b90/ageAye... My fellow old gits can get tae..... I'd happily have a day off!!!!

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[snooky]

Aye... My fellow old gits can get tae..... I'd happily have a day off!!!!

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Being an old git, instead of getting a day off for the wedding (which I can't have as a pensioner), I'll happily take a days extra pension in lieu.
There ye go. Now have a poll with that option in it.

[Hibbyradge]

I'm against a day off and I'm not in my 60s.

Friggin insignificant but famous bloke getting married is nothing to celebrate.

[The Harp Awakes]

I don't understand the fuss about his fiancees racial background. I believe there were any number of black men in the royal family in the 60's. It was a different time and drugs may have been involved.

The Royal Family and establishment have thankfully diversified to the extent that the colour of people's skin is not a problem these days. As long as she's no a pape she'll be fine:cool2:

[SirDavidsNapper]

Could not care less and the media coverage it's getting is a joke when there's real issues out there.

[JeMeSouviens]

I'm against a day off and I'm not in my 60s.

Friggin insignificant but famous bloke getting married is nothing to celebrate.

Steady on, whatever about the minor royal ... but an extra day off is never insignificant! Our place lets you work bank hols and take a day in lieu. :wink:

[Scouse Hibee]

Could not care less and the media coverage it's getting is a joke when there's real issues out there.

This is a real issue, it makes millions of people feel happy, just the sort of thing media coverage is for.

[snooky]

This is a real issue, it makes millions of people feel happy, just the sort of thing media coverage is for.

Alas, I'm not one of them.

[Geo_1875]

This is a real issue, it makes millions of people feel happy, just the sort of thing media coverage is for.

And most of them won't have noticed that their benefits will be frozen for 3 years. Just the sort of thing that slips out while the media are diverted.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Give the boy a break, not a massive fan of the Royals but he never chose this lifestyle. I get the impression he would drop it all in a minute as well to lead a normal life. Must have been hard losing your Mum at such an early age.

He could drop it in a moment to lead 'a normal life' ....... There is no requirement in law that compels a person to keep any title :aok:

Nothing against the guy as a person, but the 'poor me being born a 'royal' stuff is nonsense.

[-Jonesy-]

This is a real issue, it makes millions of people feel happy, just the sort of thing media coverage is for.

Is it? I thought the main role of the news media was to give people an unbiased and true account of the world around them and the issues that might affect them.

[Hibrandenburg]

Let's get basehibby in on the discussion.

http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/10/the-truth-about-the-so-called-british-royal-family-they-are-all-jews/

[johnbc70]

Is it? I thought the main role of the news media was to give people an unbiased and true account of the world around them and the issues that might affect them.

Like it or not millions of people like this and it affects them, hence the news coverage.

Just because people personally don't like it does not mean everyone else feels exactly the same.

[johnbc70]

He could drop it in a moment to lead 'a normal life' ....... There is no requirement in law that compels a person to keep any title :aok:

Nothing against the guy as a person, but the 'poor me being born a 'royal' stuff is nonsense.

I would imagine if he did drop it all he would still be pestered for the rest of his life, so not as easy as you suggest.

[lapsedhibee]

The Royal Family and establishment have thankfully diversified to the extent that the colour of people's skin is not a problem these days. As long as she's no a pape she'll be fine:cool2:

"Besides becoming a member of the Church of England, she will seek to become a British citizen, the palace said."

Seek to become :faf:

[Scouse Hibee]

Is it? I thought the main role of the news media was to give people an unbiased and true account of the world around them and the issues that might affect them.

Same thing and it makes folk happy.

[Pete]

Same thing and it makes folk happy.

It does indeed make a lot of people happy and they lap it up.

Stupid people that is.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I would imagine if he did drop it all he would still be pestered for the rest of his life, so not as easy as you suggest.

Yeh, you are probably right ..... I have a solution though, don't have a 'royal' family, do away with all the titles and protocol and that way at least future generations will be spared the agony that poor Wills and Harry are going through. Sorted :aok:

[-Jonesy-]

I don't see how two millionaires in their 30s getting married would really effect anybody who had never met them

[Hibrandenburg]

It does indeed make a lot of people happy and they lap it up.

Stupid people that is.

Not necessarily stupid, but people with a void in their lives that can be filled with either love for the royal family or cats.

[johnbc70]

It does indeed make a lot of people happy and they lap it up.

Stupid people that is.

So anyone who expresses happiness at this news is stupid? Really?

[Pete]

So anyone who expresses happiness at this news is stupid? Really?

On some level, yes.

I would say how happy you are at this news is directly proportional to how stupid you are.

[Pete]

Not necessarily stupid, but people with a void in their lives that can be filled with either love for the royal family or cats.

Yes that’s probably more fair.

You just know that Union Jack hatted woman who’s always waiting at the barriers has a house that stinks of cat pish.

[snooky]

That's a couple of good pot-boiling posts there, Pete :greengrin

[NAE NOOKIE]

Not necessarily stupid, but people with a void in their lives that can be filled with either love for the royal family or cats.

My cat would like to express his outrage at being dragged into this debate ...... He would also like to point out that he's well capable of taking care of himself without sooking millions out of the public purse :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

My cat would like to express his outrage at being dragged into this debate ...... He would also like to point out that he's well capable of taking care of himself without sooking millions out of the public purse :greengrin

Ach, your cat's a pussy!:greengrin

[heretoday]

They're a lovely couple determined to do some good in the world.

No, not in Africa or some glamorous location. They should get jobs in a care home right here in blighty. See if they're still smiling after several weeks wiping auld erses.

[Finn2015]

Media seem determined to make this the be all and end all. Apparently, more important than people having to use food banks and living in abject poverty