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Big90inOz
13-10-2017, 02:49 AM
Perhaps if we had a fair system of choosing the Scotland squads more people would be interested ? I lost interest in the National side many many years ago, how can a player who is turning in good performances week in week out not get picked but if he gets a transfer to the old firm or down South immediately becomes International class while gathering splinters in his arse sitting on the bench ?






In IMO managing Scotland isn’t as big as it used to be. The Spark kind of went and players would often see them as a inconvenience friendly wise. We all know playing for Scotland should be right up there with the highlight of your career but it lost its mojo. Not saying all players, thankfully we still have guys desperately wanting to play no matter what.

Has it been because of the champions league factor? We already see the best players now with the amount of footy where before a Scotland game in tv was only time you would see a team like France or whoever we’re playing.

Just playing a bit devils advocate here, don’t think there is an answer but I feel modern Football has made us lose focus on our country’s national side. Or is it purely because we’re just ***** 😁

Beefster
13-10-2017, 05:55 AM
The only names that aren’t utterly depressing are McInnes and Michael O’Neill IMHO.

Lambert, Moyes, McLeish and co are only interested / being mentioned because they are Scottish and can’t get a job elsewhere. All guys whose careers are on a downwards trajectory.

GreenNWhiteArmy
13-10-2017, 07:37 AM
Klinsmann or Hiddink would be my preference.

We need somebody with no association to Scotland right now imo who has a track record in playing youth mixed with experience.

I'd have kept Strachan for the nation's league campaign and if that went tits up then recruited someone new for the euro qualifiers.

A manager of a club team, rightly or wrongly is unlikely to want the role right now - particularly a young guy like McInnes

pacoluna
13-10-2017, 08:09 AM
Big Sam would an interesting appointment. But it will be someone who has a connection with the Old Firm.



:faf:

pacoluna
13-10-2017, 08:10 AM
Jim Duffy? Very well respected in the game.

:faf:

pacoluna
13-10-2017, 08:11 AM
Wonder if Stubbs would be interested? With Rod on SFA board, Stubbs’ name may well be discussed.

Good with the media, excellent man manager - I think he’d be a good appointment.

His last result at Hampden was pretty decent! 😂

:faf:

pacoluna
13-10-2017, 08:14 AM
Same here, but after turning down the chance to manage in the PL not sure he’d take it. Plus he’s still young and may want to still be involved in everyday stuff that goes with a club manager like training each day and just being involved in club football.

Huge difference from that to managing at international level.

When did he turn down the chance to manage in the PL?

Thecat23
13-10-2017, 08:39 AM
When did he turn down the chance to manage in the PL?

Sorry they were in the prem they were relegated I think when Mcinnes was offered the job. I’d have to check. Either way Sunderland is a huge club can’t see him taking Scotland on either.

Souter96Mac
13-10-2017, 09:03 AM
Sorry they were in the prem they were relegated I think when Mcinnes was offered the job. I’d have to check. Either way Sunderland is a huge club can’t see him taking Scotland on either.

Could have the chance to manage in league 1 next season by the looks of it..

Thecat23
13-10-2017, 09:13 AM
Could have the chance to manage in league 1 next season by the looks of it..

Haha I know, crazy the state they have found themselves in now.

500miles
13-10-2017, 09:20 AM
Tommy Wright. Knows that the value of a team is greater than the sum of its parts, and a Scotland manager needs that. For that reason, I believe he would pick more Scottish based players in form, than struggling English based players.

Souter96Mac
13-10-2017, 09:37 AM
Haha I know, crazy the state they have found themselves in now.

Not sure if im being biased here, with affinity to Newcastle, but they way they were flirting with relegation for years in the prem, it doesn't surprise me to be honest. Another big club that has shambolic ownership.

silverhibee
13-10-2017, 12:02 PM
Shirley!!!


Noooooooooooooo :boo hoo:

heidtheba
13-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Perhaps if we had a fair system of choosing the Scotland squads more people would be interested ? I lost interest in the National side many many years ago, how can a player who is turning in good performances week in week out not get picked but if he gets a transfer to the old firm or down South immediately becomes International class while gathering splinters in his arse sitting on the bench ?I

I agree totally. My first year of watching football was 92/93 and I couldn't understand how Billy Dodds of Dundee/St Johnston was banging in the goals but didn't get a consideration for the national team, then goes to Rangers (with a better squad behind him) and suddenly gets an invite. How does that even work?

Smartie
13-10-2017, 12:58 PM
Tommy Wright. Knows that the value of a team is greater than the sum of its parts, and a Scotland manager needs that. For that reason, I believe he would pick more Scottish based players in form, than struggling English based players.

That's a pretty good shout, for the reasons you mention.

Brightside
13-10-2017, 01:02 PM
Id like to see an experienced foreign manager in the role with Scott Gemill as his assistant. With scott to take on the role in the next 3/4 years.

Pretty Boy
13-10-2017, 01:09 PM
Haha I know, crazy the state they have found themselves in now.

My heart bleeds for them......

Lee Clark had it right all those years ago; sad Macken *******s!

Thecat23
13-10-2017, 01:10 PM
My heart bleeds for them......

Lee Clark had it right all those years ago; sad Macken *******s!

Don’t sit on the fence PB just tell us how you really feel 😁

Speedway
13-10-2017, 01:20 PM
Surely we're about to witness the glorious dawn of the Stuart Baxter era?

California-Hibs
13-10-2017, 01:35 PM
Step forward - jurgen klinsmann

HoboHarry
13-10-2017, 01:41 PM
Awesome....... (not)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41612064

:confused:

Billy Whizz
13-10-2017, 01:45 PM
Awesome....... (not)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41612064

:confused:

Why, think he’s got a bit of a pedigree

SteveHFC
13-10-2017, 01:46 PM
Awesome....... (not)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41612064

:confused:

Bring back Strachan.

HoboHarry
13-10-2017, 01:50 PM
Why, think he’s got a bit of a pedigree
It's just more of the same old same old.......

GreenNWhiteArmy
13-10-2017, 01:54 PM
It's just more of the same old same old.......

It tells me the SFA are planning on taking their time and searching the world for the best candidate whilst using the management experience of current staff for a friendly in a month's time. We aint gonna give the u21 manager the reigns for a friendly when they'll have important qualifiers to take care of.

Who should be in charge for this game out of curiosity?

Firestarter
13-10-2017, 01:54 PM
Don't have an issue with it. Good manager and knows the game tremendously well.

Souter96Mac
13-10-2017, 02:07 PM
Don't condone a racist being our head coach.

Firestarter
13-10-2017, 02:10 PM
Don't condone a racist being our head coach.

Everyone deserves a second chance surely? Forgiveness to someone that is sorry is human nature.

DarlingtonHibee
13-10-2017, 02:19 PM
What little interest I had in the national team has vanished

Smartie
13-10-2017, 02:25 PM
We need an interim manager to take charge of a friendly. We've appointed an interim manager who was already on the books, who has experience of being a manager and for playing for the national side.

What's the fuss?

Michael
13-10-2017, 02:38 PM
Everyone deserves a second chance surely? Forgiveness to someone that is sorry is human nature.

Maybe if he was 21 when he said it. It's a no from me.

Souter96Mac
13-10-2017, 02:57 PM
Everyone deserves a second chance surely? Forgiveness to someone that is sorry is human nature.

The nature of what he said was and is still shocking imo. Hes apologised, and rightfully so, but still doesn't mean that he's forgiven and the right man for the job in my eyes.

Pretty Boy
13-10-2017, 03:02 PM
He's going to be a caretaker for one game as far as we know. He's not a character I particularly care for but it's not a huge deal as things stand imo.

blackpoolhibs
13-10-2017, 03:26 PM
Has Mother Teresa thrown her hat in the ring yet?

Firestarter
13-10-2017, 03:33 PM
Has Mother Teresa thrown her hat in the ring yet?

😂

Firestarter
13-10-2017, 03:33 PM
The nature of what he said was and is still shocking imo. Hes apologised, and rightfully so, but still doesn't mean that he's forgiven and the right man for the job in my eyes.

Why can't he be forgiven? We all make mistakes right?

Firestarter
13-10-2017, 03:35 PM
It's just more of the same old same old.......

No he's not, he took Cardiff to EPL and kept them up. Who of the same old done that? Prior to that he's done very very well too.

Haymaker
13-10-2017, 05:00 PM
Step forward - jurgen klinsmann

Not convinced by him.

Hibernia&Alba
13-10-2017, 05:03 PM
As long as he really is just a caretaker. I'd be very unhappy if he got the job permanently; they guy is a welt, and, IMHO, just an average manager.

Hibernia&Alba
13-10-2017, 05:05 PM
Don't condone a racist being our head coach.

Racism, anti-Semitism and sexism IIRC. Bernard Manning's full routine.

Fergos
13-10-2017, 08:11 PM
:faf:

Great well thought reply to the suggestion of Allerdyce but what's so funny?

He is tactically very astute whilst the football style isn't great, has a good record with average sides and knows how to man manage - and he hasn't ruled himself out according to media reports. We could do a lot worse.

GGTTH