SNP - Labour deal?

[JeMeSouviens]

David Martin MEP
"We are far away from the next Holyrood elections but I think the groundwork should be being laid now for a potential SNP-Labour coalition that to many will seem unthinkable.
"There are signals, very weak signals, the real hate - and it was hate - between Labour and the SNP is beginning to weaken.
"I would not quite say there is a rapprochement but there is more possibility of co-operation and working together than there has been in a long time. Being on the same side in the Brexit referendum has helped that."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41280634

I'd have thought incredibly unlikey but then again Hibs have sided with the Huns. :boo hoo: Apparently welcomed by SNP MEP Alyn Smith and former Labour minister Malcolm Chisholm.

[danhibees1875]

Sorry for missing the point here, but should they not wait until there has been a vote first? :greengrin

[ronaldo7]

David Martin MEP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41280634

I'd have thought incredibly unlikey but then again Hibs have sided with the Huns. :boo hoo: Apparently welcomed by SNP MEP Alyn Smith and former Labour minister Malcolm Chisholm.

The hand of friendship has been offered on many occasions over the last few years, and it's been swiped away.

One of the Branch office candidates says this...

19365

The other can't be bothered to pay his workers the real living wage, or to allow Unions to organise in his business. Even minority shareholders can speak to daddy.

I'm not sure which one I'd pick.

[Glory Lurker]

Frankly, I'd give almost anything to see R7 and Lucky skipping hand-in-hand through the flowers. :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

Frankly, I'd give almost anything to see R7 and Lucky skipping hand-in-hand through the flowers. :greengrin

Then vote Yes at the next referendum and you might just see them do that in a few years at a socialist party conference after the SNP have disappeared back to the 4 corners of the political globe.

[lucky]

Two things R7 and I disagree on most things so unlikely to agree which hand to hold and more importantly Labour will never do a deal with the Nats at Holyrood especially under Leonard's leadership as he does not regard them as progressive enough

[SHODAN]

The hand of friendship has been offered on many occasions over the last few years, and it's been swiped away.

One of the Branch office candidates says this...

19365

The other can't be bothered to pay his workers the real living wage, or to allow Unions to organise in his business. Even minority shareholders can speak to daddy.

I'm not sure which one I'd pick.

Ah well, he can forget about my vote then.

[Pete]

Ah well, he can forget about my vote then.

What one?😉

I'm certainly not going to base my vote on how they will get on with the SNP. Socialism first for me so Leonard will definitely getting my vote.

I'm sure the other candidate means well but in the interests of synergy, it has to be someone who's on Jeremy Corbyns wavelength.

[One Day Soon]

The hand of friendship has been offered on many occasions over the last few years, and it's been swiped away.

One of the Branch office candidates says this...

19365

The other can't be bothered to pay his workers the real living wage, or to allow Unions to organise in his business. Even minority shareholders can speak to daddy.

I'm not sure which one I'd pick.


Nationalists are funny.

[ronaldo7]

Nationalists are funny.

Brit nats are even funnier.

Border guards indeed.🌞

[xyz23jc]

Brit nats are even funnier.

Border guards indeed.🌞

Even funnier, everyone seems to want to do a deal with the SNP Axis of Evil all of a sudden.....Except for the font of all knowledge and everyone's favorite non-SNP politician, William Rennie Esq! :greengrin:agree:

[One Day Soon]

Brit nats are even funnier.

Border guards indeed.🌞


"Brit nats" :hilarious

[ronaldo7]

"Brit nats" :hilarious

Your ability to close the living room curtains to the thought of British Nationalism is telling.

The Union at "ANY" cost for the so called socialists in the International British Labour party, just can't help themselves.

https://t.co/ZW41hdOYgw

[lucky]

International socialists will always oppose nationalism regardless of wherever in the world nationalism rises.

[Peevemor]

International socialists will always oppose nationalism regardless of wherever in the world nationalism rises.

By "international", do you mean controlled from another country?

[marinello59]

Your ability to close the living room curtains to the thought of British Nationalism is telling.

The Union at "ANY" cost for the so called socialists in the International British Labour party, just can't help themselves.

https://t.co/ZW41hdOYgw

I don't think that's his point. The 'Brit Nat' term carries connotations that you are well aware of. It does fit in with your previous attempts to paint the Labour Party as a hotbed of Orange Order activism though.

[marinello59]

International socialists will always oppose nationalism regardless of wherever in the world nationalism rises.

A principled position which is totally understandable. I'm not so sure Sarwar is any sort of Socialist though.

[lucky]

A principled position which is totally understandable. I'm not so sure Sarwar is any sort of Socialist though.

I agree with your comments and I've known him for years and never heard him described himself as a socialist

[pacoluna]

I agree with your comments and I've known him for years and never heard him described himself as a socialist
I have.. a champagne socialist.

[JeMeSouviens]

International socialists will always oppose nationalism regardless of wherever in the world nationalism rises.

If this is supposed to mean people in Scottish Labour then why don't they oppose the British nationalism of the Brexiteers?

It's a principled position to be in favour of a Trotskyist International revolution. I'm not quite so sure fighting the creation of a modern outward looking, small European country by wrapping yourself in the colours of a fading, class ridden, imperial power quite qualifies. Especially one heading for isolationism like the UK.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Even more reasons to loathe Sarwar.

Claims to support living wage. Family firm advertises jobs at minimum wage. Claims reason for not paying living wage is he supports mandatory living wage, not voluntary. What an absolute tosspot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41332462

[ronaldo7]

I don't think that's his point. The 'Brit Nat' term carries connotations that you are well aware of. It does fit in with your previous attempts to paint the Labour Party as a hotbed of Orange Order activism though.

Brit Nats are many, and varied. They come in all shapes and sizes, and I don't have to paint the Labour party as a hotbed of OO activism. Labour party members have been outed as have some Tories, it's not a secret anymore.

You seem to see the Brit Nat term in a very narrow definition. It's not and never has been only about the Orange Order.

You only need to see the mess the Brit Nats have made of Brexit to see the term covers a vast array of people.

Just like Scot Nats, or Self Determinists. :wink:

[marinello59]

Brit Nats are many, and varied. They come in all shapes and sizes, and I don't have to paint the Labour party as a hotbed of OO activism. Labour party members have been outed as have some Tories, it's not a secret anymore.

You seem to see the Brit Nat term in a very narrow definition. It's not and never has been only about the Orange Order.

You only need to see the mess the Brit Nats have made of Brexit to see the term covers a vast array of people.

Just like Scot Nats, or Self Determinists. :wink:

This is comedy gold from you R.
On a thread about the potential for Labour and SNP to work together your default position is to blame Labour for refusing the hand of friendship in the past before swiftly using the out of date branch office term then dismissing them as Brit Nats etc. I'm guessing you can't ever see this happening. :faf:

[ronaldo7]

This is comedy gold from you R.
On a thread about the potential for Labour and SNP to work together your default position is to blame Labour for refusing the hand of friendship in the past before swiftly using the out of date branch office term then dismissing them as Brit Nats etc. I'm guessing you can't ever see this happening. :faf:

I don't know what your getting excited about. :greengrin

The hand of friendship has been offered and slapped away, first by Miliband, and then Corbyn or did I just make that up?

The Branch office is still a branch office, or can you point me to the registered Scottish Labour Party, and where the money comes from?

To the OP's ref to working together. It's already happening at local level in Edinburgh as you know. It's just that the SNP won't work with the Tories at local level, unlike the Labour party.

How's Aberdeen council getting along?

[marinello59]

I don't know what your getting excited about. :greengrin

The hand of friendship has been offered and slapped away, first by Miliband, and then Corbyn or did I just make that up?

The Branch office is still a branch office, or can you point me to the registered Scottish Labour Party, and where the money comes from?

To the OP's ref to working together. It's already happening at local level in Edinburgh as you know. It's just that the SNP won't work with the Tories at local level, unlike the Labour party.

How's Aberdeen council getting along?

I just thought it was funny. :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

This is comedy gold from you R.
On a thread about the potential for Labour and SNP to work together your default position is to blame Labour for refusing the hand of friendship in the past before swiftly using the out of date branch office term then dismissing them as Brit Nats etc. I'm guessing you can't ever see this happening. :faf:

I think its called wooing - joyfully and in a civic style. :tee hee:

[ronaldo7]

This is comedy gold from you R.
On a thread about the potential for Labour and SNP to work together your default position is to blame Labour for refusing the hand of friendship in the past before swiftly using the out of date branch office term then dismissing them as Brit Nats etc. I'm guessing you can't ever see this happening. :faf:

I've just watched the prospective Slab leaders hustings, and it won't be happening any time soon. The only good thing to come out of it, is Anas offering to mow Nicolas lawn. :aok:

SNP Baaaaaad.

[ronaldo7]

International socialists will always oppose nationalism regardless of wherever in the world nationalism rises.

:faf:

https://t.co/WylZDf8ztk

[JeMeSouviens]

As (predictably) depressing as this thread has turned out: here's an actual SNP-Lab deal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/19/scottish-and-welsh-leaders-seek-to-ward-off-westminster-hijack-of-powers

[Hibrandenburg]

International socialists will always oppose nationalism regardless of wherever in the world nationalism rises.

Seems like there are many "international socialists" around the world have gone national, making them "national socialists".

[Future17]

As (predictably) depressing as this thread has turned out: here's an actual SNP-Lab deal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/19/scottish-and-welsh-leaders-seek-to-ward-off-westminster-hijack-of-powers

I'm not clicking that link based on the words at the end of it! :shocked:

[marinello59]

As (predictably) depressing as this thread has turned out: here's an actual SNP-Lab deal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/19/scottish-and-welsh-leaders-seek-to-ward-off-westminster-hijack-of-powers

Prrof that at the top, politicans will get deals done and work together when there is common ground. A bit harder lower down where there appears to be actual hatred between SNP and Labour activists.