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SirDavidsNapper
07-09-2017, 05:15 PM
I see there is another thread by someone on Brokeback trying to justify why they are bigger than Hibs. God we are getting to them. Worth a read for comedy value.

Just a tip for any Jambos looking in. Fans of big teams don't feel the need to go on and on and on about it to their city rivals. Enjoy playing 2nd fiddle to us for the foreseeable future 👍

sleeping giant
07-09-2017, 05:26 PM
Big teams steal from charities.

MWHIBBIES
07-09-2017, 05:29 PM
What I think of whenever they claim they are a big team


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJY7BTIuPY

fat freddy
07-09-2017, 05:30 PM
Big teams fans High Six each other when they get away with bumping these guys...

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

AltheHibby
07-09-2017, 05:34 PM
Just noticed Scrubbers Laundry in that list. Maybe they thought they could sign Wayne Rooney? 😎

Onion
07-09-2017, 05:35 PM
I see there is another thread by someone on Brokeback trying to justify why they are bigger than Hibs. God we are getting to them. Worth a read for comedy value.

Just a tip for any Jambos looking in. Fans of big teams don't feel the need to go on and on and on about it to their city rivals. Enjoy playing 2nd fiddle to us for the foreseeable future 👍

Someone needs to buy them a big team bus :aok:

fat freddy
07-09-2017, 05:36 PM
Just noticed Scrubbers Laundry in that list. Maybe they thought they could sign Wayne Rooney? 😎

Vlad had to wash the money somewhere, he just forgot to pay the scrubber

Mathias Jack
07-09-2017, 05:37 PM
The one on that list that always gets me on that list is, Hitachi Capital...7 quid! ha ha ha ha

fat freddy
07-09-2017, 05:45 PM
My favourite is the 13k they bumped Spectator Seating for.
Ye Gods of Seating are currently serving a dish of Karma to our free spending Maroon chums.

Pretty Boy
07-09-2017, 05:49 PM
McDonalds is bigger than El Celler De Can Roca.

It's not better though.

IGRIGI
07-09-2017, 05:54 PM
The irony is their obsession around being the "big team" is exactly why they're not a big team, in any city where one team is considerably bigger than another they don't care about them.

Firestarter
07-09-2017, 05:57 PM
The irony is their obsession around being the "big team" is exactly why they're not a big team, in any city where one team is considerably bigger than another they don't care about them.

It's like the Huns calling themselves the peepul. They are obsessed with it and now it's a level playing field they are getting frustrated they can't spend what they haven't got and the realisation is kicking in we have a better side, better manager and the better stadium regardless of their new stand.

Tobias Funke
07-09-2017, 06:00 PM
Hearts are the football equivalent of small bobby syndrome.

Thecat23
07-09-2017, 06:01 PM
One of the most embarrassing threads I've seen on there and that's saying something! They can't stand that we are streets ahead of them now.

They keep crawling back to the days when then were financial doping. Now they are on a level playing field lets see who's the better side.

You can just imagine the type of fan on Kickback. Fat red faced jakeball, mixed with spotty teen virgin who's just rattled one onto a dirty sock. They are just creepy!

SirDavidsNapper
07-09-2017, 06:05 PM
Usually big teams have a better infrastructure than smaller teams. Or a bigger stadium or better players and manager and so on. Not really in Hearts case.

seanshow
07-09-2017, 06:05 PM
I refuse to visit the yams website, but summing up from those I have been unfortunate to be in the company of, talk mince loudly in the hope that someone will listen.

Small man Syndrome ✓
Delusions of Grandeur ✓
Self Importance ✓

Firestarter
07-09-2017, 06:12 PM
Usually big teams have a better infrastructure than smaller teams. Or a bigger stadium or better players and manager and so on. Not really in Hearts case.

Better players, no
Better manager, no
Bigger stadium, no
Better stadium, no
Own training facilities, no
Beat their rivals in 7 games, no
Most recent Cup success, no

The only thing they have done since admin caught up with them is win the championship ahead of us. Would I swap that for a Scottish cup win, no and would they swap going up for a Scottish cup win, yes.

They have very little to hawk on about these days, so of course they need a wee cheer themselves up thread.

SirDavidsNapper
07-09-2017, 06:13 PM
Better players, no
Better manager, no
Bigger stadium, no
Better stadium, no
Own training facilities, no
Beat their rivals in 7 games, no
Most recent Cup success, no

The only thing they have done since admin caught up with them is win the championship ahead of us. Would I swap that for a Scottish cup win, no and would they swap going up for a Scottish cup win, yes.

They have very little to hawk on about these days, so of course they need a wee cheer themselves up thread.100%

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NORTHERNHIBBY
07-09-2017, 06:16 PM
Holiday Inn Aberdeen £58. That must have been an away game and the first team and the subs all piled into a cosy double bed. Wonder if they changed ends at half time.

Thecat23
07-09-2017, 06:39 PM
Better players, no
Better manager, no
Bigger stadium, no
Better stadium, no
Own training facilities, no
Beat their rivals in 7 games, no
Most recent Cup success, no

The only thing they have done since admin caught up with them is win the championship ahead of us. Would I swap that for a Scottish cup win, no and would they swap going up for a Scottish cup win, yes.

They have very little to hawk on about these days, so of course they need a wee cheer themselves up thread.

This 👍🏼👍🏼

emerald green
07-09-2017, 06:39 PM
I'm not 100% sure most Yams (the sane ones anyway) really believe, deep down, all this "big team" keech. It's just something they use to try to wind up Hibs supporters. It's old hat and boring.

The Yams that actually really believe it aren't the sharpest tacks in the box. That's putting it very mildly.

Aldo
07-09-2017, 06:52 PM
Big teams fans High Six each other when they get away with bumping these guys...

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

Can I point out for all those looking in at this long list

THE LADY HAIG POPPY FUND.

Total and utter disgraceful club and fir me will forever be know as THE CLUB WITH NO SHAME


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HIBERNIAN-0762
07-09-2017, 06:59 PM
Can I point out for all those looking in at this long list

THE LADY HAIG POPPY FUND.

Total and utter disgraceful club and fir me will forever be know as THE CLUB WITH NO SHAME


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

:top marks

SirDavidsNapper
07-09-2017, 07:10 PM
Better players, no
Better manager, no
Bigger stadium, no
Better stadium, no
Own training facilities, no
Beat their rivals in 7 games, no
Most recent Cup success, no

The only thing they have done since admin caught up with them is win the championship ahead of us. Would I swap that for a Scottish cup win, no and would they swap going up for a Scottish cup win, yes.

They have very little to hawk on about these days, so of course they need a wee cheer themselves up thread.Could even narrow it down to..

Most recent Scottish cup, no
Most recent League cup, no
Most recent win in Europe, no

Maybe that's just petty though. Wouldn't want to ruin their delusions of grandeur.

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SanFranHibs
07-09-2017, 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by Aldo

Can I point out for all those looking in at this long list

THE LADY HAIG POPPY FUND.

Total and utter disgraceful club and fir me will forever be know as THE CLUB WITH NO SHAME

And what some of their lot and their apologists fail to ask...."Why did an anonymous 'friend' pay off that debt?" Because that was theft!! Illegal !! A court case could have resulted.

All the other debts, though immoral to stiff their creditors, can be put down to mismanagement, but the money collected for a charity, subsequently stolen, was theft.

IF you don't hate Hearts get out of here !! :na na:

:flag::flag:

Dalehibbie
07-09-2017, 07:16 PM
I refuse to visit the yams website, but summing up from those I have been unfortunate to be in the company of, talk mince loudly in the hope that someone will listen.

Small man Syndrome ✓
Delusions of Grandeur ✓
Self Importance ✓
Was watching a programme last week, and these are three of the qualifying factors for a psychopath.

OtleyHibs
07-09-2017, 07:18 PM
It's like when you're at school and a mate goes on about all the sex he has had which really means he's a virgin. 😄

They can bang on about being as "big" as they like, just shows how bitter and worried they are that we have had a resurgence and are going from strength to strength.

GGTTH

AndyM_1875
07-09-2017, 07:23 PM
Big teams fans High Six each other when they get away with bumping these guys...

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

The guys in our support who bang on about Rangers and dismiss this list of shame almost out of hand should perhaps take another look. Really guys? Really?

Thecat23
07-09-2017, 07:24 PM
If you could pick someone from a Tv show to be a Jambo it would be Jay from Inbetweeners. Full of utter bull**** and gets laughed at by pretty much everyone!

Kato
07-09-2017, 07:51 PM
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People cutting a load of pre-Mercer jambos a lot slack here. Even before then they were total crowdbores. Faced with some their more motley published attendances back then they ranted about how they didn't count the main stand and/or the away end. Some from that era "texaco cup jambos", were/are complete gunts.

Bostonhibby
07-09-2017, 07:52 PM
If you could pick someone from a Tv show to be a Jambo it would be Jay from Inbetweeners. Full of utter bull**** and gets laughed at by pretty much everyone![emoji1] right on the money.

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GreenNWhiteArmy
07-09-2017, 08:13 PM
If you could pick someone from a Tv show to be a Jambo it would be Jay from Inbetweeners. Full of utter bull**** and gets laughed at by pretty much everyone!

Haha belter

greenginger
07-09-2017, 08:23 PM
from their shame list,

The Rangers F C ..... £ 1410.00 :na na:

Pretty Boy
07-09-2017, 08:30 PM
If you could pick someone from a Tv show to be a Jambo it would be Jay from Inbetweeners. Full of utter bull**** and gets laughed at by pretty much everyone!

Nailed it.

Waxy
07-09-2017, 08:53 PM
For a team who think they're the big team they're doing a great impression of the wee team.

Peevemor
07-09-2017, 08:54 PM
I'm not 100% sure most Yams (the sane ones anyway) really believe, deep down, all this "big team" keech. It's just something they use to try to wind up Hibs supporters. It's old hat and boring.

The Yams that actually really believe it aren't the sharpest tacks in the box. That's putting it very mildly.Even the "sane" ones can't always restrain themselves. Of the folk that supported Edinburgh teams in my local, it was about 50/50 Hibs/Hearts - nearly all matchgoers. The yams individually were sound and we could have decent conversations on all subjects (including football) and some tremendous craic.

However, when the yams crowded together with a drink in them they became, to a man, total fannies.

I've also observed this trait in other groups of yams that I know.

jgl07
07-09-2017, 09:20 PM
Even the "sane" ones can't always restrain themselves. Of the folk that supported Edinburgh teams in my local, it was about 50/50 Hibs/Hearts - nearly all matchgoers. The yams individually were sound and we could have decent conversations on all subjects (including football) and some tremendous craic.

However, when the yams crowded together with a drink in them they became, to a man, total fannies.

I've also observed this trait in other groups of yams that I know.

What is the collective noun for Yams?

A Fanny of Yams?

Renfrew_Hibby
07-09-2017, 09:38 PM
Do you think the Barca forums are full of Espanyol wee team this and Espanyol wee team that?
WTF constitutes a big team anyways? Believe it or not neither us or them are big teams in the grand scheme of things.

Pretty Boy
07-09-2017, 09:46 PM
Do you think the Barca forums are full of Espanyol wee team this and Espanyol wee team that?
WTF constitutes a big team anyways? Believe it or not neither us or them are big teams in the grand scheme of things.

I think my all time favourite deluded Hearts fan comment was when one of them said the difference in size between Hibs and Hearts was comparitive to that between Manchester United and Stockport County. Somehow I don't think many Man Utd fans fret over Stockport in the same way Hearts fans do over Hibs.

As said above by another poster I find most Hearts fans in isolation to be ok people just supporting their team but stick them in a group and it's like a hysteria takes over and they become absolute weapons.

Carheenlea
07-09-2017, 10:00 PM
A club that had to constantly remind everyone that they are a big club, is by definition not a big club.

Viva_Palmeiras
07-09-2017, 10:15 PM
"But the futures mine" as Ian Brown sang.

Bostonhibby
07-09-2017, 10:18 PM
For a team who think they're the big team they're doing a great impression of the wee team.

They've never really understood what it takes to be "big" so they cling on to the mythical yet undefinable size definition they rely so heavily on.

Not many clubs of any real status would be begging their fans to insert their loose change into plastic cows to help build a stand, but in an attempt to simplify things for any yams looking in here's an example on a level that might just sink in. Hibs are the very far away from you.

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NadeAteMyLunch!
07-09-2017, 10:27 PM
Can never decide if THE BIG CLUB or THE FAMOUS is more cringe worthy? Both are absolutely off the scale.

Criswell
07-09-2017, 10:30 PM
One way to shut them up is to say "strangely enough our "wee club" has never been in administration". Do you have to be a "big club" to have that on your CV?

monktonharp
07-09-2017, 10:44 PM
What is the collective noun for Yams?

A Fanny of Yams?a cauldron of fuds.

660
07-09-2017, 10:56 PM
Can never decide if THE BIG CLUB or THE FAMOUS is more cringe worthy? Both are absolutely off the scale.

Haha “the famous” is a favourite of mine. Never fails to make me laugh.

Deansy
07-09-2017, 10:59 PM
I see there is another thread by someone on Brokeback trying to justify why they are bigger than Hibs. God we are getting to them. Worth a read for comedy value.
Just a tip for any Jambos looking in. Fans of big teams don't feel the need to go on and on and on about it to their city rivals. Enjoy playing 2nd fiddle to us for the foreseeable future 👍


If the OP genuinely and honestly belived this to be true, then he'd have had no need whatsoever to start that thread !. The fact that he has done just tells me the damage we did to them BEFORE Wallace Mercer took over, still runs deep and that deep-down, they know exactly who is the 'Big team' and they'll always know it !

heretoday
07-09-2017, 11:20 PM
I don't understand why Hearts see themselves as bigger. In what way?
They get bigger crowds? Okay but recently they've been doing better than us. See what happens if we start challenging for the top. Anyway,Barca might have a few more fans than Real but you wouldn't say that they were a bigger club.
It's just a WUP.

California-Hibs
07-09-2017, 11:22 PM
Genuinely, when was the last time they beat us in a derby??? 😂

greenginger
07-09-2017, 11:32 PM
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/details/event.aspx?itemref=1570


About 15 sections sold out at roughly 650 seats/section would just under 10 k Yams attending.

Better get a sales drive going tomorrow for the Big club reputation. :greengrin

SirDavidsNapper
07-09-2017, 11:53 PM
I don't understand why Hearts see themselves as bigger. In what way?
They get bigger crowds? Okay but recently they've been doing better than us. See what happens if we start challenging for the top. Anyway,Barca might have a few more fans than Real but you wouldn't say that they were a bigger club.
It's just a WUP.

They won't have much bigger home crowds than Hibs this season and their away following is substantially smaller. Infact we would have had a higher average home gate than them this season if they hadn't built the new tin can. The novalty factor might attract a few extra orks along. Will still be very close though.

SirDavidsNapper
07-09-2017, 11:56 PM
I don't understand why Hearts see themselves as bigger. In what way?
They get bigger crowds? Okay but recently they've been doing better than us. See what happens if we start challenging for the top. Anyway,Barca might have a few more fans than Real but you wouldn't say that they were a bigger club.
It's just a WUP.

They won't have much bigger home crowds than Hibs this season and their away following is substantially smaller mainly because they are Barry White away from home and have been for a number of years (another big team trait). Infact we would have had a higher average home gate than them this season if they hadn't built the new tin can. The novalty factor might attract a few extra orks along. Will still be very close though.

Hibbycol
08-09-2017, 03:06 AM
Big teams fans High Six each other when they get away with bumping these guys...

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
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Peevemor
08-09-2017, 03:35 AM
One way to shut them up is to say "strangely enough our "wee club" has never been in administration". Do you have to be a "big club" to have that on your CV?Administration - no, but...

SouthMoroccoStu
08-09-2017, 04:35 AM
Haha “the famous” is a favourite of mine. Never fails to make me laugh.

It's like the weird kid at school giving themselves a cool nickname and trying to get everyone to call them by it

lapsedhibee
08-09-2017, 05:26 AM
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/details/event.aspx?itemref=1570


About 15 sections sold out at roughly 650 seats/section would just under 10 k Yams attending.

Better get a sales drive going tomorrow for the Big club reputation. :greengrin

They've been busy this morning. Only about 15/16 sections now showing as NOT sold out, so most of the other 390k will be there after all.

SouthMoroccoStu
08-09-2017, 05:42 AM
Sunday 22nd May 2016

Over 150,000 people on the streets of Edinburgh and Leith celebrating

Big team

Brooster
08-09-2017, 05:44 AM
"Always in our shadow" That's another favourite of mines. These trumpets are off the scale.

lapsedhibee
08-09-2017, 05:53 AM
If the OP genuinely and honestly belived this to be true, then he'd have had no need whatsoever to start that thread !. The fact that he has done just tells me the damage we did to them BEFORE Wallace Mercer took over, still runs deep and that deep-down, they know exactly who is the 'Big team' and they'll always know it !
Nah. Just as bad coming from Hibs fans.

fat freddy
08-09-2017, 06:21 AM
"Always in our shadow" That's another favourite of mines. These trumpets are off the scale.

I know two banjo playing yokels with that very line tattooed on their arms. Its a compliment to Hibs that they feel the need to think about us everytime they see their skin. They envy Hibs more than they admire Hearts.

The Falcon
08-09-2017, 07:16 AM
Can never decide if THE BIG CLUB or THE FAMOUS is more cringe worthy? Both are absolutely off the scale.

It's all very Donald Trump-ish. Alternatively they could be called the Trumpettes.......

The Falcon
08-09-2017, 07:20 AM
One way to shut them up is to say "strangely enough our "wee club" has never been in administration". Do you have to be a "big club" to have that on your CV?


Administration - no, but...

We were but very briefly, as in a matter of hours or however long it took for STF to ditch Rowland. All monies owed by Hibernian FC were paid.

Baw187
08-09-2017, 07:21 AM
I know two banjo playing yokels with that very line tattooed on their arms. Its a compliment to Hibs that they feel the need to think about us everytime they see their skin. They envy Hibs more than they admire Hearts.

I've got a photo that I always post on FB or twitter anytime I read the 'forever in our shadow' keek.

It's too rude for on here but essentially it's a projected shadow on a wall of a giant willy.


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MB62
08-09-2017, 07:33 AM
Can I point out for all those looking in at this long list

THE LADY HAIG POPPY FUND.

Total and utter disgraceful club and fir me will forever be know as THE CLUB WITH NO SHAME


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A FORMER youth footballer who was once on the books of Hearts is facing a jail sentence after carrying out a robbery at a branch of Greggs. Andrew Shaw took charity cash from the bakery shop in the latest of a series of thefts to support his drug habit.

Says it all really.

Keith_M
08-09-2017, 07:37 AM
It's like the weird kid at school giving themselves a cool nickname and trying to get everyone to call them by it



My nickname at school was 'Ace', but nobody ever called me it, no matter hom many times I asked.


Oi you, whaddaya mean weird!

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 07:41 AM
My nickname at school was 'Ace', but nobody ever called me it, no matter hom many times I asked.


Oi you, whaddaya mean weird!Not 8 Ace by any chance?[emoji4]

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Keith_M
08-09-2017, 07:50 AM
Not 8 Ace by any chance?[emoji4]

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Ace Rimmer, actually



:wink:




http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/features/analysis/holo-i-must-be-going/holo_7.jpg

WhileTheChief..
08-09-2017, 07:52 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 07:56 AM
Ace Rimmer, actually



:wink:




http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/features/analysis/holo-i-must-be-going/holo_7.jpgProbably worse!

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Keith_M
08-09-2017, 08:01 AM
Probably worse!

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That's your opinion, but then you're just jealous cos you've never had Princess Bonjela (see how close she's clinging to me in the fotie!)



:wink:

Peevemor
08-09-2017, 08:04 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.

It's not that simple. For a long time prior to entering administration they were very publicly struggling financially (players' wages, etc.). They managed to struggle along to the end of season 2012-13, opening Tynecastle while knowing they didn't have the money to pay the police, etc., all to avoid the 15 point penalty which would have relegated them.

And I suppose the Lady Haig money was simply "resting in their account"?


Meanwhile, Dundee manager John Brown, whose club would have been spared relegation if Hearts had gone into administration a month earlier, accused his rivals of cheating by delaying the announcement.
Hearts finished in 10th place, 14 points ahead of Dundee but the automatic 15-point deduction which will now be applied in 2013/14 would have seen them demoted if their plight had been confirmed before the end of last season.
Unlike other Scottish clubs who have gone into administration and have then had their automatic points deduction applied with immediate effect, Hearts will have their penalty applied prospectively to next season.
There have been dark murmurings on Tayside about the potential damage to the SPL’s TV deals if they had had to consign Edinburgh derbies alongside Old Firm games as fixtures they were no longer able to supply broadcasters.
“It doesn’t surprise me that this has happened,” he said. “We’ve known all along how serious the problems were at Tynecastle. What really annoys me is that they have totally used and abused the system by leaving it until now to avoid relegation and it’s been allowed to happen.
“They’re probably laughing at us now but what has gone on is scandalous. They’ve taken the Mickey out of everyone and the whole thing stinks.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hearts/10126094/Hearts-bow-to-inevitable-with-move-to-administration.html

CropleyWasGod
08-09-2017, 08:06 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.

They entered administration BECAUSE they couldn't pay their bills.:wink:

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 08:13 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.One of the reasons for their administration was the sheer scale of their debts (bills) that they ran up with either the inability to pay or the deliberate intention not to pay.

Combining that with how long some of the bigger items had been outstanding it's unlikely that they'd taken the opportunity to deal with them on a business as usual basis like most clubs living within their actual budget do.

Tax bills, particularly PAYE NIG and VAT don't just arrive out the blue and to get as far into the recovery process that HMRC did in this case they must not have been dealt with in the normal way or it wouldn't have reached the stage where they had to put themselves into administration. Genuine just my take on it. As for the council and Heriot Watt. Let's just say they were far more liberal, and for longer than they would have been in pursuing the ordinary Edinburgh tax payer. They certainly didn't pay those bills on a business as usual basis for whatever reason.

Poppy thieves? The club that deliberately witheld money from a charity still exists. The act doing so is a theft and they used the money as it was part of a deficit disclosed by the ongoing business that they didn't have the funds for at the time or didn't hand them over.

Might be a bit distasteful to some agreed but to others proportionate given the way certain elements of them hijack aspects of the very cause they didn't give the money too?

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Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 08:19 AM
That's your opinion, but then you're just jealous cos you've never had Princess Bonjela (see how close she's clinging to me in the fotie!)



:wink:Clinging is it? Looks a bit like a kidnapping with a smile under duress to me!

Opinions eh?[emoji6]

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Deansy
08-09-2017, 08:20 AM
One of the reasons for their administration was the sheer scale of their debts (bills) that they ran up with either the inability to pay or the deliberate intention not to pay.

Combining that with how long some of the bigger items had been outstanding it's unlikely that they'd taken the opportunity to deal with them on a business as usual basis like most clubs living within their actual budget do.

Tax bills, particularly PAYE NIG and VAT don't just arrive out the blue and to get as far into the recovery process that HMRC did in this case they must not have been dealt with in the normal way or it wouldn't have reached the stage where they had to put themselves into administration. Genuine just my take on it. As for the council and Heriot Watt. Let's just say they were far more liberal, and for longer than they would have been in pursuing the ordinary Edinburgh tax payer. They certainly didn't pay those bills on a business as usual basis for whatever reason.

Poppy thieves? The club that deliberately witheld money from a charity still exists. The act doing so is a theft and they used the money as it was part of a deficit disclosed by the ongoing business that they didn't have the funds for at the time or didn't hand them over.

Might be a bit distasteful to some agreed but to others proportionate given the way certain elements of them hijack aspects of the very cause they didn't give the money too?

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Cheers Mate - saved me from doing all that typing !!

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 08:28 AM
Cheers Mate - saved me from doing all that typing !!Like I say, just one opinion!

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greenginger
08-09-2017, 08:30 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.


There might be nobody at the Club now, but it was the Club which was responsible for the debts and it's the same Club.


https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC005863/insolvency

Their Insolvency History will always be on their CV at Companies House.

stantonhibby
08-09-2017, 08:39 AM
One of the reasons for their administration was the sheer scale of their debts (bills) that they ran up with either the inability to pay or the deliberate intention not to pay.

Combining that with how long some of the bigger items had been outstanding it's unlikely that they'd taken the opportunity to deal with them on a business as usual basis like most clubs living within their actual budget do.

Tax bills, particularly PAYE NIG and VAT don't just arrive out the blue and to get as far into the recovery process that HMRC did in this case they must not have been dealt with in the normal way or it wouldn't have reached the stage where they had to put themselves into administration. Genuine just my take on it. As for the council and Heriot Watt. Let's just say they were far more liberal, and for longer than they would have been in pursuing the ordinary Edinburgh tax payer. They certainly didn't pay those bills on a business as usual basis for whatever reason.

Poppy thieves? The club that deliberately witheld money from a charity still exists. The act doing so is a theft and they used the money as it was part of a deficit disclosed by the ongoing business that they didn't have the funds for at the time or didn't hand them over.

Might be a bit distasteful to some agreed but to others proportionate given the way certain elements of them hijack aspects of the very cause they didn't give the money too?

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Indeed......and despite owing money to all and sundry , rather than cut their cloth accordingly they were still signing players.....such as Craig Beattie.

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 09:13 AM
Indeed......and despite owing money to all and sundry , rather than cut their cloth accordingly they were still signing players.....such as Craig Beattie.

That certainly occurred at a time when they will have known they had outstanding business rate, ambulance and police bills, HWU rent, tax instalments, probably vat scheduled payment arrears and NI, I can only speculate why they had so much Big Hearts, Macrae Battalion Trust and of course the Lady Haig poppy fund money resting in their accounts.

You'd think the very fact they are the types of organisation they are the right thing to do is give them their money asap so they can carry on with their good charitable work.

Billy Whizz
08-09-2017, 09:30 AM
They entered administration BECAUSE they couldn't pay their bills.:wink:

Crops, remind me what happened with the HMRC bill

WhileTheChief..
08-09-2017, 09:41 AM
I don't disagree with any of the above.

My point though is that if you or I took over a local shop that had gone into administration we would not be expected or obliged to pay the suppliers that the previous owners stiffed.

Hearts are in the same position. Budge had nothing to do with any of that so I can't see how she is responsible for the Lady Haig fund or any of the unpaid bills.

Maybe a simplistice view but I'm not sure it's an incorrect one?

Sean1875
08-09-2017, 09:46 AM
Theres a yam lassie I know that has previously openly stated that she hates Hibs more than she likes Hearts. Just strange folk when it comes to football.

Peevemor
08-09-2017, 09:49 AM
I don't disagree with any of the above.

My point though is that if you or I took over a local shop that had gone into administration we would not be expected or obliged to pay the suppliers that the previous owners stiffed.

Hearts are in the same position. Budge had nothing to do with any of that so I can't see how she is responsible for the Lady Haig fund or any of the unpaid bills.

Maybe a simplistice view but I'm not sure it's an incorrect one?

Nobody has suggested that she is from what I've seen. The point is that they seem to have started their "big club" crap when the were deliberately spending beyond their means.

MyJo
08-09-2017, 09:50 AM
I find that the sheer number of creditors on thier list often distracts us from some of the most shameful parts including:

The other football clubs that got screwed by them.

Ayr United FC £1,750
Livingston FC £282
Liverpool FC £46,625
Musselburgh Athletic FC £5,790
Stenhousemuir FC £12,900
The Rangers FC £1,410
Kauno Futbolo £13,431

The other footballing authorities and organisations they didnt bother to pay

Football Safety Officers £230
SFA £5,011
Scottish Youth Football Assoc. £1,700
UK Football Academy £228

The agents that probably helped them buy and sell players but didn't get thier agreed fee:

Beswicks Sports Ltd £3,000
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt. £12,000
Key Sports Management £23,049
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750

The public services, taxman & councils that the big team felt they were above paying:

HM Revenue £1,881,068
NHS Lothian £75
NHS Fife £739
Scottish Police Authority £18,585
Scottish Ambulance Services £2,454
North Lanarkshire Council £100
Scottish Water £100
City of Edinburgh Council £90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631

The companies that helped them stage matches at tynecastle but had Hearts pocket the money instead of paying them:

Ticketmaster £33,112
Securevent Security £12,309
SRM Hearts £19,853
G4S £12,057

The artists who didn't get paid royalties for Hearts using thier music at tynecastle

Performing Right Society£13,995
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133

The educational establishment that hearts borrowed training facilities from to train the players they were giving £500k a year to but didn't actually pay them for using it.

Herriot Watt £145,655

and last but not least, the charities & hearts fans:

British Red Cross £76
BIG Hearts Community Trust £589
HoMFC Shareholder Association £5,030
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund £185
McCraes Battalion Trust £100
St Andrews First Aid £364

Ryan69
08-09-2017, 09:51 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.

Apart from the 500,000 fans that knew what must of been happening....and to this day still dont care.

Betty Boop
08-09-2017, 09:51 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.
..
There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.

:agree: Nobody cares apart from us. Never see the MSM refer to it either funnily enough, in fact Tom English et al couldn't be more gushing about Budge and co if they tried.

Keith_M
08-09-2017, 09:55 AM
I don't disagree with any of the above.

My point though is that if you or I took over a local shop that had gone into administration we would not be expected or obliged to pay the suppliers that the previous owners stiffed.

Hearts are in the same position. Budge had nothing to do with any of that so I can't see how she is responsible for the Lady Haig fund or any of the unpaid bills.

Maybe a simplistice view but I'm not sure it's an incorrect one?


The reminders of the unpaid debt are mostly aimed at the Hearts Fans, and their fawning Media friends, who happily revelled in the success they achieved without being embarrassed as to where the money was coming from. They won Scottish Cups, which still they happily crow about, with other people's money. They need reminded of where the money came from at every opportunity.


In regard to Budge...

Similar to her predecessors, she's quite happy to play up to the Glorious War Record, and cash in on Heart's historical connection with the Lady Haig Fund and other charitable organisations, all as a cynical PR ploy..

It's a matter of record that Heart's history also includes diverting money from these funds to pay their other bills, so forgive me for thinking it's a subject she'd be advised to steer clear of... while laying a wreath at the Hearts War Memorial

She's also held up as an example to other clubs in how to run a debt free business, with never a mention that the sole reason that came about is because they stiffed all their creditors, not paying a single penny towards their debt when the club was purchased

Springbank
08-09-2017, 09:56 AM
The whole list of creditors thing means nothing to them.

There is nobody at the club now that was responsible for the unpaid debts, why should they care?

And for the experts on administration you would know that a lot of these bills would have been paid as business as usual but as soon as they entered administration they couldn't be paid.

The poppy thieves chat is simply awful.

Absolutely no offence intended, just an observation but reading this post I can only envision a pre-pubescent Yam, standing at the top of the stairs, crying, screaming "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO"

AKA no defence

NAE NOOKIE
08-09-2017, 10:02 AM
I subscribe to the point put forward by another poster on here that the very fact the Yams go on and on about this flies directly in the face of how real big clubs go about things.

For decades Dundee Utd have had the upper hand on Tayside but I cant recall them ever going on about being 'the big team' and in more extreme examples you have Liverpool and Everton and Man Utd and Man City ...... I cant recall ever hearing a fan of Liverpool or Man Utd referring to themselves as 'the big club' in fact as an outside observer it seems to me that especially in the case of Man Utd their city rivals were almost an irrelevance, so much so that Utd even played in a blue away strip and the first fixture their fans looked for at the start of the season was Liverpool, not Man City.

My favourite example is from Hearts friendly against Everton a few seasons ago where I hear the welt who does their stadium announcements welcomed the travelling Everton fans to "the home of Edinburgh's big team" ........... can you imagine the announcer at Anfield or Old Trafford having so little class as to come out with something like that ... utterly cringe worthy .... and especially when you announce it to fans of a club whose average attendance is over twice what yours is, I bet the Everton fans were at best bemused at worst laughing their ***** off.

At the end of the day I'm happy to concede that Hearts probably do have a bigger support than us, though nowhere near as much as they like to claim. Its undeniable that they have won more honours than us and won more derbies too.
But the truth is even if I had access to the worlds most powerful microscope I still couldn't find my interest in that. What Hearts have won and how many folk go to watch them is an utter irrelevance to me, as it is to 99.9% of Hibs supporters ... in fact the more they bang on about it and the more they spew out their 'big team' rubbish the more I'm happy that I chose to support Hibs.

All their 'big team' shan patter does is give us a handy stick to beat them with ..... the current example being the main stand. If it was anybody else all fans, including Hibs fans, would be happy to see a Scottish club, even Hearts, improving its infrastructure, but because its them we all know there will be a feeling of disappointment when the reality that Easter Road will still be the bigger stadium hits home, no matter how hard they try to brush it off.

Big Team:

Cant sell out their 16,000 allocation for semi finals at Easter Road :faf:

Couldn't sell all their tickets for their last cup final appearance at Hampden :faf:

One tier main stand, with corporate facilities facing a high school instead of the pitch :faf:

A pitch the size of a postage stamp :faf:

Fans who are so much more loyal and dedicated than us that they all go into hiding when they draw Celtic in the cup :faf:

So disorganised they forget to order seats for their mega stand :faf:

Cant make it out of a League cup group made up of posties and fishermen :faf:

Pushed out of their rented super luxurious training facility by the Scottish national hockey team :faf:

A poor second home and away to the Hibs fans in derby matches ... so much so even folk on JKB are admitting it :faf:

All that would be funny in the general scheme of fitba banter anyway .... but when you keep telling folk you are 'the big team' it just ramps up the comedy to extremely 'pleasing' levels for us Hibbies :greengrin

connerg
08-09-2017, 10:06 AM
Hearts are the football equivalent of small bobby syndrome.

:faf: I've Been saying that for years.

Keith_M
08-09-2017, 10:16 AM
In the grand scheme of things, it's like an argument about who's the tallest in a room full of dwarves.


Speaking of which, dontcha think this one looks most like a Jambo...


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ac/cf/ed/accfedb422a5de3e32157e87e7c7f062--art-disney-disney-magic.jpg


:greengrin

660
08-09-2017, 10:36 AM
"Always in our shadow" That's another favourite of mines. These trumpets are off the scale.

“Not in my lifetime” is another belter.

I always thought it referred to our Scottish cup record but turns out it refers to their own league cup record.

Baader
08-09-2017, 10:48 AM
Starts off by saying we've only finished above them once in the past ten years. Which is bull **** right from the off. It's 4. They just make stuff up to try and suit their agenda. No one should ever take them seriously. They're deluded.

celthedd1
08-09-2017, 11:33 AM
Starts off by saying we've only finished above them once in the past ten years. Which is bull **** right from the off. It's 4. They just make stuff up to try and suit their agenda. No one should ever take them seriously. They're deluded.

It's blooming obvious that in a city with two clubs that one is going to have more fans than the other, Hearts have more fans simply because of location and catchment area,they are nearer to west towns of Edinburgh where Leith has the North Sea to its east...Both are historical clubs with proud traditions but Hibs will always come into the mind of your average footie fan in the UK before Hearts...without being biased or childish like them,Hibs are probably more 'famous' than Hearts.

Kato
08-09-2017, 11:40 AM
It's blooming obvious that in a city with two clubs that one is going to have more fans than the other, Hearts have more fans simply because of location and catchment area,they are nearer to west towns of Edinburgh where Leith has the North Sea to its east...Both are historical clubs with proud traditions but Hibs will always come into the mind of your average footie fan in the UK before Hearts...without being biased or childish like them,Hibs are probably more 'famous' than Hearts.

Hibs fans don't just come from Leith.

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 11:45 AM
It's blooming obvious that in a city with two clubs that one is going to have more fans than the other, Hearts have more fans simply because of location and catchment area,they are nearer to west towns of Edinburgh where Leith has the North Sea to its east...Both are historical clubs with proud traditions but Hibs will always come into the mind of your average footie fan in the UK before Hearts...without being biased or childish like them,Hibs are probably more 'famous' than Hearts.

You'll get strongly worded letters from chairmen of insignificant wee club committees all over that part of Edinburgh (whist clubs, spelling bees, afternoon tea clubs, booling clubs etc) written in ink from a cheap but impressive looking fountain pen clasped in a faux leather glove with string on the back. The 6 fingered 1-5ers who can't write will be getting their mums to thumb through the phone book to find out where the blasphemer celthedd1 lives!

Newry Hibs
08-09-2017, 11:47 AM
Hibs fans don't just come from Leith.

... Only the 'real' ones do.
:na na:


disclaimer - I don't

green leaves
08-09-2017, 11:51 AM
Another thread about hearts on kickback.net and you've got the gall to claim the gunts are obsessed!
Deary me.

Tobias Funke
08-09-2017, 11:52 AM
Another thread about hearts on kickback.net and you've got the gall to claim the gunts are obsessed!
Deary me.

And there's you opening it up, reading it and commenting. My irony detector is going off the scale right now.

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 12:04 PM
Another thread about hearts on kickback.net and you've got the gall to claim the gunts are obsessed!
Deary me.It's a reaction to the latest yackback claim about their size again.

It's possible to spend a wee bit time mocking the idiots without actually having or developing obsessions, honest.

Just don't tell any Yams.

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celthedd1
08-09-2017, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE=Kato;5163364]Hibs fans don't just come from Leith.[O
How about 300 miles from Leith !

southsider
08-09-2017, 12:24 PM
Hibs fans don't just come from Leith.
Hibs are not a Leith team. Started in St. Patrick's Church, Cowgate and more central Edinburgh you could not wish to get.

southsider
08-09-2017, 12:27 PM
Anyone read the story of an ex hearts kid being convicted for stealing a charity box. Now I wonder where he got that idea ?

jacomo
08-09-2017, 12:34 PM
Remember, in the heady early days of Vlad (World Cup players, Champions League etc) when the more arrogant Hearts fans like to say that they now operated at a higher level? That Hibs were no longer their rivals?

They now measure their success solely against us. Bless.

Peevemor
08-09-2017, 12:43 PM
Remember, in the heady early days of Vlad (World Cup players, Champions League etc) when the more arrogant Hearts fans like to say that they now operated at a higher level? That Hibs were no longer their rivals?

They now measure their success solely against us. Bless.

They did the same when Mercer borrowed £5m from SMG, the programmed repayment of which was one of the reasons they almost sold Tynie to Cala.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
08-09-2017, 01:21 PM
Offering £3500 a week to some 35 year old keeper..... http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/cedric-carrasso-reveals-why-hearts-move-didn-t-happen-1-4554579

They never learn.... lock away your charity tins.

CropleyWasGod
08-09-2017, 01:22 PM
Crops, remind me what happened with the HMRC bill

It wasn't paid. :greengrin


I find that the sheer number of creditors on thier list often distracts us from some of the most shameful parts including:

The other football clubs that got screwed by them.

Ayr United FC £1,750
Livingston FC £282
Liverpool FC £46,625
Musselburgh Athletic FC £5,790
Stenhousemuir FC £12,900
The Rangers FC £1,410
Kauno Futbolo £13,431



These clubs were paid.

SirDavidsNapper
08-09-2017, 01:41 PM
I subscribe to the point put forward by another poster on here that the very fact the Yams go on and on about this flies directly in the face of how real big clubs go about things.

For decades Dundee Utd have had the upper hand on Tayside but I cant recall them ever going on about being 'the big team' and in more extreme examples you have Liverpool and Everton and Man Utd and Man City ...... I cant recall ever hearing a fan of Liverpool or Man Utd referring to themselves as 'the big club' in fact as an outside observer it seems to me that especially in the case of Man Utd their city rivals were almost an irrelevance, so much so that Utd even played in a blue away strip and the first fixture their fans looked for at the start of the season was Liverpool, not Man City.

My favourite example is from Hearts friendly against Everton a few seasons ago where I hear the welt who does their stadium announcements welcomed the travelling Everton fans to "the home of Edinburgh's big team" ........... can you imagine the announcer at Anfield or Old Trafford having so little class as to come out with something like that ... utterly cringe worthy .... and especially when you announce it to fans of a club whose average attendance is over twice what yours is, I bet the Everton fans were at best bemused at worst laughing their ***** off.

At the end of the day I'm happy to concede that Hearts probably do have a bigger support than us, though nowhere near as much as they like to claim. Its undeniable that they have won more honours than us and won more derbies too.
But the truth is even if I had access to the worlds most powerful microscope I still couldn't find my interest in that. What Hearts have won and how many folk go to watch them is an utter irrelevance to me, as it is to 99.9% of Hibs supporters ... in fact the more they bang on about it and the more they spew out their 'big team' rubbish the more I'm happy that I chose to support Hibs.

All their 'big team' shan patter does is give us a handy stick to beat them with ..... the current example being the main stand. If it was anybody else all fans, including Hibs fans, would be happy to see a Scottish club, even Hearts, improving its infrastructure, but because its them we all know there will be a feeling of disappointment when the reality that Easter Road will still be the bigger stadium hits home, no matter how hard they try to brush it off.

Big Team:

Cant sell out their 16,000 allocation for semi finals at Easter Road :faf:

Couldn't sell all their tickets for their last cup final appearance at Hampden :faf:

One tier main stand, with corporate facilities facing a high school instead of the pitch :faf:

A pitch the size of a postage stamp :faf:

Fans who are so much more loyal and dedicated than us that they all go into hiding when they draw Celtic in the cup :faf:

So disorganised they forget to order seats for their mega stand :faf:

Cant make it out of a League cup group made up of posties and fishermen :faf:

Pushed out of their rented super luxurious training facility by the Scottish national hockey team :faf:

A poor second home and away to the Hibs fans in derby matches ... so much so even folk on JKB are admitting it :faf:

All that would be funny in the general scheme of fitba banter anyway .... but when you keep telling folk you are 'the big team' it just ramps up the comedy to extremely 'pleasing' levels for us Hibbies :greengrin

That's the thing. They constantly set themselves up for a fall with the big team chat. If they didn't spout crap like that they wouldn't be ridiculed over things like their new stand (as much). Like another poster has said, Hibs are definatley the more well known of the two clubs dare I say "famous" but in terms of size it's six and half a dozen.

NAE NOOKIE
08-09-2017, 02:53 PM
It's blooming obvious that in a city with two clubs that one is going to have more fans than the other, Hearts have more fans simply because of location and catchment area,they are nearer to west towns of Edinburgh where Leith has the North Sea to its east...Both are historical clubs with proud traditions but Hibs will always come into the mind of your average footie fan in the UK before Hearts...without being biased or childish like them,Hibs are probably more 'famous' than Hearts.

Though there may be something in that it is also the case that there are historical reasons why Hearts are slightly better supported.

It should be remembered that from the foundation of both clubs up until the end of the 19th century the vast majority of Hibs support was drawn from a pretty small demographic, IE the Irish Catholic community of Edinburgh, whereas the Hearts support was drawn from the much larger general population of Edinburgh .... It would probably have been after WW1 ( at least so far as Edinburgh football was concerned ) that who you supported was much less dependent on which 'community' you belonged to.

The effect of those early years on the current state of affairs would undoubtedly be that when it comes to family tradition being a factor in which team you support Hearts will have the edge over Hibs. In the latter part of the 19th century the population of Edinburgh including Leith was around 250,000 of which its reasonable to surmise at least 75% had no affiliation to the Irish Catholic community and therefor if they were going to follow a football club it would be far more likely to be Hearts than the Catholics only Hibernian.

So though there may indeed be geographical reasons for the difference in support there are undoubtedly historical reasons for it as well ... Nowadays only an idiot would choose which club to support based on what religion they perceive themselves to be and I doubt that ever happens when it comes to Hibs or Hearts ..... but back in the day people did, a situation not helped by Hibs policy in the first 20 years or so of only allowing Catholics to be club members, and that undoubtedly has an affect when it comes to modern day family affiliation to both clubs, not because of religion but purely because of what has become family tradition.

Aldo
08-09-2017, 04:31 PM
I find that the sheer number of creditors on thier list often distracts us from some of the most shameful parts including: The other football clubs that got screwed by them. Ayr United FC £1,750 Livingston FC £282 Liverpool FC £46,625 Musselburgh Athletic FC £5,790 Stenhousemuir FC £12,900 The Rangers FC £1,410 Kauno Futbolo £13,431 The other footballing authorities and organisations they didnt bother to pay Football Safety Officers £230 SFA £5,011 Scottish Youth Football Assoc. £1,700 UK Football Academy £228 The agents that probably helped them buy and sell players but didn't get thier agreed fee: Beswicks Sports Ltd £3,000 Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt. £12,000 Key Sports Management £23,049 Stellar Football Ltd£5,750 The public services, taxman & councils that the big team felt they were above paying: HM Revenue £1,881,068 NHS Lothian £75 NHS Fife £739 Scottish Police Authority £18,585 Scottish Ambulance Services £2,454 North Lanarkshire Council £100 Scottish Water £100 City of Edinburgh Council £90,715 City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631 The companies that helped them stage matches at tynecastle but had Hearts pocket the money instead of paying them: Ticketmaster £33,112 Securevent Security £12,309 SRM Hearts £19,853 G4S £12,057 The artists who didn't get paid royalties for Hearts using thier music at tynecastle Performing Right Society£13,995 PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325 PPL£4,133 The educational establishment that hearts borrowed training facilities from to train the players they were giving £500k a year to but didn't actually pay them for using it. Herriot Watt £145,655 and last but not least, the charities & hearts fans: British Red Cross £76 BIG Hearts Community Trust £589 HoMFC Shareholder Association £5,030 Lady Haigs Poppy Fund £185 McCraes Battalion Trust £100 St Andrews First Aid £364

That's a brilliant summary and it's utterly disgraceful and disgusting. Especially the last part.

I have saved that and will use it over the weekend when the 1-5 brigade start their pish.

Hope you don't mind?

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 04:41 PM
That's a brilliant summary and it's utterly disgraceful and disgusting. Especially the last part.

I have saved that and will use it over the weekend when the 1-5 brigade start their pish.

Hope you don't mind?I think they originally had thousands of the Macraes Battalion Trust money "resting" in their accounts and in fact disclosed this much higher figure then massaged it down through some property charge (?) or something like that to the Trust?

Anyone confirm deny or clarify?

See correction below

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truehibernian
08-09-2017, 04:43 PM
Offering £3500 a week to some 35 year old keeper..... http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/cedric-carrasso-reveals-why-hearts-move-didn-t-happen-1-4554579

They never learn.... lock away your charity tins.

Said French keeper claiming £4K a week - before you know it Avril via Barry will be claiming it was nearer £1K a week or 'pay as you play' or that a 'better keeper' became available.

Aldo
08-09-2017, 04:46 PM
I find this brilliant and looked at a number of this I note the following

Big Team

Fails to pay way
Robbed charities and local businesses (including Lady Haig Poppy Fund)
Bestest Main Stand in land and appears that they are first to build one
Main Stand that will be 1 tier with restricted views
Capacity that will struggle to be anywhere near 20k
Tiny pitch
15 million in debt and counting
Stadium that won't be uefa/FIFA category.
Rented training facilities that they get punted out of regularly
They are skint

Wee Team

Pays way
Good financial position
Own FIFA/uefa category 2 stadium with capacity 20250 + (without cheating)
Own training centre

Need I say more.

Do you know what if that's they want to think then I say 'Dad on'

We are doing really really good for being a so call wee team!

Big team, the famous whatever they will always be known as the 'club with no shame'

Billy Whizz
08-09-2017, 04:47 PM
It wasn't paid. :greengrin



These clubs were paid.

That's what I thought. That's a substantial amount of money they didn't pay to HMRC

As you said, they had to pay their football debts

Aldo
08-09-2017, 04:48 PM
I think they originally had thousands of the Macraes Battalion Trust money "resting" in their accounts and in fact disclosed this much higher figure then massaged it down through some property charge (?) or something like that to the Trust? Anyone confirm deny or clarify? Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

BH if that's true then it shows them for what they are.

£1 or £10,000 these are charities yet they still think they did nowt wrong.

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 05:14 PM
BH if that's true then it shows them for what they are.

£1 or £10,000 these are charities yet they still think they did nowt wrong.

My apologies, just did the checking, It was Big Hearts community trust funds that were resting in HOMFC's bank account. £34k of it to be exact.

Kaiser1962
08-09-2017, 05:16 PM
I think they originally had thousands of the Macraes Battalion Trust money "resting" in their accounts and in fact disclosed this much higher figure then massaged it down through some property charge (?) or something like that to the Trust?

Anyone confirm deny or clarify?

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That was Big Hearts Community Trust who HMFC owed just over £34k.

It is worth noting that the figure of £28m does not include the £22m DFE swaps, the £18.7m debt forgiveness nor the inter co invoices from Kaunas/Milson for another £5.1m. But, as a Yam told me, "these were all legitimate transaction".

The Lady Haig Poppy Fund...........there's no coming back from that I'm afraid. Thats just wrong.

emerald green
08-09-2017, 05:24 PM
However, when the yams crowded together with a drink in them they became, to a man, total fannies.

I've also observed this trait in other groups of yams that I know.

Yep, this sounds very familiar. I suppose one of the consultants at the Royal Edinburgh might be able to explain this syndrome. :dunno:

proud_and_green
08-09-2017, 05:42 PM
What is the collective noun for Yams?

A Fanny of Yams?

An exaggeration of yams!

Or perhaps an embellishment of yams.

jgl07
08-09-2017, 05:42 PM
Anyone read the story of an ex hearts kid being convicted for stealing a charity box. Now I wonder where he got that idea ?
Was that from Greggs?

That would be Hearts Class!

MyJo
08-09-2017, 05:46 PM
It wasn't paid. :greengrin



These clubs were paid.

Only because, had they not been paid then hearts would not have been allowed to carry on in the league.

They chose to spend the money on players they could not otherwise afford to pay rather than giving the money they owed to teams like Musselburgh and stenhousemuir where £5k or £10k is a considerable amount in their budget.

Only when forced to by the threat of expulsion from the league have they actually coughed up and paid these. Not because it was the right thing to do or because they were ashamed of their actions, it was pure self-preservation

Kato
08-09-2017, 05:49 PM
There's a good reason they have to overspend to meet success. They are cack-handed flumps. Any other Scottish clubs outwith the OF rifling eighty to a hundred million through their books in eight years would have won more than two Scottish Cups.

Aldo
08-09-2017, 06:21 PM
My apologies, just did the checking, It was Big Hearts community trust funds that were resting in HOMFC's bank account. £34k of it to be exact.

You have nowt to apologise for BH.

Lies lies lies and they continue with the new mega stand. There was little or no chance of it being ready and they knew this so they lied to the spfl and the other teams in the league.


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Aldo
08-09-2017, 06:22 PM
That was Big Hearts Community Trust who HMFC owed just over £34k.

It is worth noting that the figure of £28m does not include the £22m DFE swaps, the £18.7m debt forgiveness nor the inter co invoices from Kaunas/Milson for another £5.1m. But, as a Yam told me, "these were all legitimate transaction".

The Lady Haig Poppy Fund...........there's no coming back from that I'm afraid. Thats just wrong.

And the one I will never ever let them forget about!


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kaimendhibs
08-09-2017, 06:32 PM
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6106

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Aldo
08-09-2017, 07:01 PM
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6106 Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

And the lies continue!

Total and utter BS!

The lack of progress is plain to see ..... They are skint

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 07:12 PM
And the lies continue!

Total and utter BS!

The lack of progress is plain to see ..... They are skintAch, it's all going swimmingly. They're going to shock us all and move the sheep game to tynecastle tomorrow as planned.

They're holding it back so they can do an announcement on that eclipses even the one about them discovering and then frying the potato.

We'll never keep up.

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Aldo
08-09-2017, 07:15 PM
Ach, it's all going swimmingly. They're going to shock us all and move the sheep game to tynecastle tomorrow as planned.

They're holding it back so they can do an announcement on that eclipses even the one about them discovering and then frying the potato.

We'll never keep up.

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It what big teams do apparently!!


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HIBERNIAN-0762
08-09-2017, 07:26 PM
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6106

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Lies and B. S.

It's what they do best, and the funny thing is the average yam sucks it all up.

Absolute mugs.

Peevemor
08-09-2017, 07:32 PM
An exaggeration of yams!

Or perhaps an embellishment of yams.A delusion of yams?

O'Rourke3
08-09-2017, 07:45 PM
An empty vessel of Yams

Bostonhibby
08-09-2017, 08:11 PM
A shareholding of yams.

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SANH 1875
08-09-2017, 08:56 PM
A shareholding of yams.

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A shame of hearts supporters

SuperAllyMcleod
08-09-2017, 09:25 PM
As regards the 'big team' nonsense, I always just ask them to give me the first two lines of the Hearts song and then let it sink in.

Line two is "There's a wee fitba team that aye makes its mark".

Shot by their own gun.

SirDavidsNapper
08-09-2017, 11:48 PM
Hibs are a beautiful club. End of story.

Captain Trips
09-09-2017, 09:42 AM
Hearts are a joke, we know it most other clubs now see it and deep down their fans know it. All their players also know it.

NAE NOOKIE
09-09-2017, 10:49 AM
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6106

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"Everything that was due to be delivered by 9th September will still be delivered by then, with the exception of the installation of the seats"

What a pile of bullcrap ..... its blatantly obvious from the most recent pictures from the site that they are miles from being in a position to install the seats, even if they had any, so unless the non delivery of the seats made them decide to concentrate their efforts away from installing the decking the assertion that the stand would be ready to accept paying punters by the 9th was at best pure fantasy, at worst a bare faced lie.

Either way, its not a position I would like to see my club in. You either admit that you were / are incompetent or that you were simply dishonest with your supporters. Embarrassing either way.

The Falcon
09-09-2017, 11:14 AM
"Everything that was due to be delivered by 9th September will still be delivered by then, with the exception of the installation of the seats"

What a pile of bullcrap ..... its blatantly obvious from the most recent pictures from the site that they are miles from being in a position to install the seats, even if they had any, so unless the non delivery of the seats made them decide to concentrate their efforts away from installing the decking the assertion that the stand would be ready to accept paying punters by the 9th was at best pure fantasy, at worst a bare faced lie.

Either way, its not a position I would like to see my club in. You either admit that you were / are incompetent or that you were simply dishonest with your supporters. Embarrassing either way.


Aye, and I'm going to ride Beyonce by the 20th September, everything will be done and dusted by that date with the possible exception of the involvement of Beyonce.

emerald green
09-09-2017, 11:34 AM
Being such a "big team" (lol) no doubt Murrayfield will be bursting at the seams today. There will surely be another "full house" (lol again) or at least a near capacity crowd of 67,100.

Not sure if it's correct, but did I hear Aberdeen are bringing 7,000 fans for this game today?

Bostonhibby
09-09-2017, 12:05 PM
Being such a "big team" (lol) no doubt Murrayfield will be bursting at the seems today. There will surely be another "full house" (lol again) or at least a near capacity crowd of 67,100.

Not sure if it's correct, but did I hear Aberdeen are bringing 7,000 fans for this game today?[emoji23]

They'll get the big screens set up at tynecastle for the 375,000 overspill or maybe the council will find them a venue.

Chip sales will go through the roof.

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Aldo
09-09-2017, 12:58 PM
"Everything that was due to be delivered by 9th September will still be delivered by then, with the exception of the installation of the seats"

What a pile of bullcrap ..... its blatantly obvious from the most recent pictures from the site that they are miles from being in a position to install the seats, even if they had any, so unless the non delivery of the seats made them decide to concentrate their efforts away from installing the decking the assertion that the stand would be ready to accept paying punters by the 9th was at best pure fantasy, at worst a bare faced lie.

Either way, its not a position I would like to see my club in. You either admit that you were / are incompetent or that you were simply dishonest with your supporters. Embarrassing either way.

They are skint hence the BS spouting from them. Any money made from the Murrayfield experience will go straight to stand fund.


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SirDavidsNapper
09-09-2017, 03:43 PM
16k Hearts fans at Murrayfield when they were basically giving away tickets. Big team.

iwasthere1972
09-09-2017, 04:01 PM
Being such a "big team" (lol) no doubt Murrayfield will be bursting at the seams today. There will surely be another "full house" (lol again) or at least a near capacity crowd of 67,100.

Not sure if it's correct, but did I hear Aberdeen are bringing 7,000 fans for this game today?

Heard on Sportscene that they took 8000.

Frazerbob
09-09-2017, 04:05 PM
Aprox £200k in additional ticket sales from today.

NOLA
09-09-2017, 04:22 PM
Hertz are pish. End off.


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Kato
09-09-2017, 04:31 PM
Aprox £200k in additional ticket sales from today.

Less the outlay its buttons really. Aberdeen fans must have had fun.

Deansy
09-09-2017, 05:00 PM
Less the outlay its buttons really. Aberdeen fans must have had fun.

Even if it IS buttons they still shouldn't be allowed to make extra-money because of a 'problem' THEY created !. A 'problem' (forgot to order the seats ?? - aye right !!) that's as believeable as their 'We're NOT going into administration' statement at the end of the 2013 season that allowed them to cheat relegation and send Dundee down when it should've - by rights - been them !. They llied to the GFA then and there's every chance they've lied on this occasion !. Plus other clubs have played with only 3 stands open - why not them ??

Peevemor
09-09-2017, 06:47 PM
Even if it IS buttons they still shouldn't be allowed to make extra-money because of a 'problem' THEY created !. A 'problem' (forgot to order the seats ?? - aye right !!) that's as believeable as their 'We're NOT going into administration' statement at the end of the 2013 season that allowed them to cheat relegation and send Dundee down when it should've - by rights - been them !. They llied to the GFA then and there's every chance they've lied on this occasion !. Plus other clubs have played with only 3 stands open - why not them ??Because they've sold more STs than their 3 operational stands hold.

greenginger
09-09-2017, 07:00 PM
16k Hearts fans at Murrayfield when they were basically giving away tickets. Big team.


From what I saw on TV it certainly looked like they filled the East Stand which has a capacity of 10,700



http://www.britinfo.net/T/1127238.htm

Was there another 6000 behind the goals ?

tamig
09-09-2017, 07:04 PM
Even if it IS buttons they still shouldn't be allowed to make extra-money because of a 'problem' THEY created !. A 'problem' (forgot to order the seats ?? - aye right !!) that's as believeable as their 'We're NOT going into administration' statement at the end of the 2013 season that allowed them to cheat relegation and send Dundee down when it should've - by rights - been them !. They llied to the GFA then and there's every chance they've lied on this occasion !. Plus other clubs have played with only 3 stands open - why not them ??
Any extra money they do make - if any - will just be chucked at the new stand. In saying that, I agree that they should have been made to play their home games in front of three stands.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
09-09-2017, 07:05 PM
16k Hearts fans at Murrayfield when they were basically giving away tickets. Big team.

They embarrass themselves. Maybe the quality of chips on offer was poor.

Eyrie
09-09-2017, 07:21 PM
Because they've sold more STs than their 3 operational stands hold.

That is a problem of their own making. They could simply have capped the number of season tickets based on the capacity of the remaining three stands.

Bostonhibby
09-09-2017, 07:24 PM
16k Hearts fans at Murrayfield when they were basically giving away tickets. Big team.They're going to have to use hampden for their next home game, then Wembley after that if they don't bump their average tynecastle last season "sell out" numbers up as all the big teamers we keep hearing about ain't turning up and it can only be the stadium they don't like.

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Fisherrow Harp
10-09-2017, 02:42 AM
Hibs are a beautiful club. End of story.
Thread ended with that really!

Fisherrow Harp
10-09-2017, 02:44 AM
Aye, and I'm going to ride Beyonce by the 20th September, everything will be done and dusted by that date with the possible exception of the involvement of Beyonce.
Aye cause I'm booked in with her on the 20th. Though tbf 30 seconds isn't going to take a lot out of her day!

GreenLake
10-09-2017, 05:40 AM
Hearts are a big team like the Bay City Rollers are a research institute.

Spike Mandela
10-09-2017, 07:16 AM
Will be interesting to see their Murrayfield crowds when St J and The Rangers come calling.

Depending on Hearts performances under Levein they might maintain their level of support but St J won't bring many. I am sure they are relying on the 'cousins of Orange' turning up in their numbers but wouldn't surprise me if the Rangers supporters organisations suggest a boycott especially if pressure is ramped up for an inquiry into the SFA , governance and the EBT fiasco.

Pete
10-09-2017, 08:50 AM
Will be interesting to see their Murrayfield crowds when St J and The Rangers come calling.

Depending on Hearts performances under Levein they might maintain their level of support but St J won't bring many. I am sure they are relying on the 'cousins of Orange' turning up in their numbers but wouldn't surprise me if the Rangers supporters organisations suggest a boycott especially if pressure is ramped up for an inquiry into the SFA , governance and the EBT fiasco.

I can see Rangers easily taking 10k. They're all mouth and won't boycott.

On that, Hearts point to their big 20-25 thousand plus attendances during the eighties as part of the "big team" myth but the truth is that they used to give over nearly half their ground whenever the old firm came calling. That Gorgie road end was a monster that easily took ten thousand and there were OF fans in a large part of their main stand. Ourselves and Aberdeen took good numbers back then too.

Fur coat and no knickers.

Billy Whizz
10-09-2017, 08:53 AM
Aprox £200k in additional ticket sales from today.

Nothing like that. If it had been at the old or new Tynie, there would have been 17,000 or 20,000 at the new
So 7,000 extra at £23 less vat = £134,000, but it seemingly cost them £100,000 to rent it

GreenCastle
10-09-2017, 09:04 AM
Will be interesting to see their Murrayfield crowds when St J and The Rangers come calling.

Depending on Hearts performances under Levein they might maintain their level of support but St J won't bring many. I am sure they are relying on the 'cousins of Orange' turning up in their numbers but wouldn't surprise me if the Rangers supporters organisations suggest a boycott especially if pressure is ramped up for an inquiry into the SFA , governance and the EBT fiasco.

I expected a larger crowd yesterday.

Saints game - take off 6,000 from yesterday.

Huns - may put some Yams off attending plus it seems away attendance is capped at 6,800/7,000. Will be a different atmosphere outside the stadium compared to yesterday though.

Phil MaGlass
12-09-2017, 11:43 AM
Big team

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/billy-davies-i-wanted-austin-macphee-to-go-but-hearts-job-beneath-me-1-4555407

NAE NOOKIE
12-09-2017, 12:05 PM
Big team

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/billy-davies-i-wanted-austin-macphee-to-go-but-hearts-job-beneath-me-1-4555407

He would no doubt have said the same about Hibs ..... the guy sounds like an egotistical tosser, there's plenty of better managers than him who have dropped down to clubs that might have been seen as 'below their level' in order to get back into the game.

If it was below his level why did he apply in the first place ......... looks like a sackful of sour grapes to me.

greenginger
12-09-2017, 12:16 PM
He would no doubt have said the same about Hibs ..... the guy sounds like an egotistical tosser, there's plenty of better managers than him who have dropped down to clubs that might have been seen as 'below their level' in order to get back into the game.

If it was below his level why did he apply in the first place ......... looks like a sackful of sour grapes to me.


I wonder how he feels about being interviewed and rejected by the person who got the job ?

MyJo
12-09-2017, 12:27 PM
Big team

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/billy-davies-i-wanted-austin-macphee-to-go-but-hearts-job-beneath-me-1-4555407

While is funny to laugh at the Yams about it he comes across as a complete and utter tosser in that article.

Keith_M
12-09-2017, 12:29 PM
While is funny to laugh at the Yams about it he comes across as a complete and utter tosser in that article.


Managing Hearts was beneath him, yet he still applied for the job?

Aye, right!