Hibernian First Team Squad 2017/18

[Speedway]

Neil Lennon has stated (according to the EEN) that he will be working with a first team squad of 20 (NOT including goalkeepers) this season.

Therefore, to know how many signings are still to be made, we do a simple count up of who we have got.

Goalkeepers aside this gives us:

1. David Gray
2. Steven Whittaker
3. Lewis Stevenson
4. Callum Crane
5. Efe Ambrose
6. Paul Hanlon
7. Liam Fontaine
8. Darren McGregor
9. Scott Martin
10. Marvin Bartley
11. Danny Swanson
12. Dylan McGeough
13. John McGinn
14. Martin Boyle
15. Anthony Stokes
16. Big Davie
17. Simon Murray
18. Brian Graham
19. Vyk Slivka
20. Vacant

So unless I've missed something, we know that the remaining places could be taken by:

19. Ryan Porteous
20. Oli Shaw

Or we could have two new players coming in such as:

19. Stokes
20. Commons

This is assuming that the anticipated departures of Handling and Graham DON'T happen.

If they DO happen, then I make it that another 2 players are still to be signed AFTER Stokes/Commons. This could be why Fyvie and Pennant were not offered deals 'at this moment'.

Thoughts?

Edit:updated squad

[CapitalGreen]

Neil Lennon has stated (according to the EEN) that he will be working with a first team squad of 20 (NOT including goalkeepers) this season.

Therefore, to know how many signings are still to be made, we do a simple count up of who we have got.

Goalkeepers aside this gives us:

1. David Gray
2. Steven Whittaker
3. Lewis Stevenson
4. Callum Crane
5. Efe Ambrose
6. Paul Hanlon
7. Liam Fontaine
8. Darren McGregor
9. Scott Martin
10. Marvin Bartley
11. Danny Swanson
12. Dylan McGeough
13. John McGinn
14. Martin Boyle
15. Danny Handling
16. Big Davie
17. Simon Murray
18. Brian Graham
19. Vacant
20. Vacant

So unless I've missed something, we know that the remaining places could be taken by:

19. Ryan Porteous
20. Oli Shaw

Or we could have two new players coming in such as:

19. Stokes
20. Commons

This is assuming that the anticipated departures of Handling and Graham DON'T happen.

If they DO happen, then I make it that another 2 players are still to be signed AFTER Stokes/Commons. This could be why Fyvie and Pennant were not offered deals 'at this moment'.

Thoughts?

Fraser Murray?

[Souter96Mac]

Can see Graham leaving once we've brought in Stokes. Think handling will leave in some form, whether it's a loan or on a permanent. Think porteous and Shaw will be out on loan whilst Fraser Murray will be in and around the squad.

[Brightside]

Replace Danny with Fraser Murray.

Add Stokes and Henderson.

[Speedway]

Deivydas Matulevičius

#16

[Brightside]

Deivydas Matulevičius

Thats Big Davie. :wink:

[pacoluna]

Thats Big Davie. :wink:

Just noticed that :greengrin

[J-C]

Fraser Murray?


I think some players like Fraser will still be involved in the Dev team and getting game time/training with the main squad, hence why he may not be in a main 20 man squad, same for Porteous and Shaw.

Hopefully Stokes signs today and we then get Henderson and maybe later in the window Commons once his operation on his back is healed.

[BlackSheep]

I don't think we will see Shaw away from the first team/dev squad this year.

[Speedway]

Do you reckon we could still use a bit of pace in that squad?

[Fergus52]

Do you reckon we could still use a bit of pace in that squad?


definitely, only really Boyle on that list who could be described as fast.

[Ozyhibby]

Still 3 to come after Stokes. Source, Neil Lennon.


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[AlbertK86]

definitely, only really Boyle on that list who could be described as fast.

Take it you've not seen Simon Murray yet ?

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[Leith Green]

We are crying out for another wide player , and an attacking central midfielder

[Iain G]

Speedway, more see it as:

1. David Gray
2. Steven Whittaker
3. Lewis Stevenson
4.
5. Efe Ambrose
6. Paul Hanlon
7. Liam Fontaine
8. Darren McGregor
9. Scott Martin
10. Marvin Bartley
11. Danny Swanson
12. Dylan McGeough
13. John McGinn
14. Martin Boyle
15.
16. Big Davie
17. Simon Murray
18. Brian Graham
19.
20.

And the 4 spaces filled by the options of young folks:

Ryan Porteous
Fraser Murray
Oli Shaw
Callum Crane

Or the new players coming in:

Stokes
Henderson
Commons

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not sure all the youngsters will be officially counted as 1st team squad members. Given we can strip 18 every week then 20 outfield players leaves us tight.

I think it will be 20 senior players with Murray, Shaw etc involved but classed as development players.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm not sure all the youngsters will be officially counted as 1st team squad members. Given we can strip 18 every week then 20 outfield players leaves us tight.

I think it will be 20 senior players with Murray, Shaw etc involved but classed as development players.

I'm not sure exactly how it works but it's possible the youngsters will count as development players as long as they are on their development contracts, just because Lennon won't want them taking up space on his first team budget.


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[18Hibee75]

Still 3 to come after Stokes. Source, Neil Lennon.


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Seem pretty confident stokes is signing. Have you seen something that I've missed?

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[Lewiehas2]

1. David Gray
2. Steven Whittaker
3. Lewis Stevenson
4. Ryan Porteous
5. Efe Ambrose
6. Paul Hanlon
7. Liam Fontaine
8. Darren McGregor
9. Scott Martin
10. Marvin Bartley
11. Danny Swanson
12. Dylan McGeouch
13. John McGinn
14. Martin Boyle
15. Fraser Murray
16. Vacant (Hopefully Hendo)
17. Big Davie
18. Simon Murray
19. Oli Shaw
20. Vacant (Hopefully Stokesy)

That would be a tremendous squad!!

[Lee Marvin]

1. David Gray
2. Steven Whittaker
3. Lewis Stevenson
4. Ryan Porteous
5. Efe Ambrose
6. Paul Hanlon
7. Liam Fontaine
8. Darren McGregor
9. Scott Martin
10. Marvin Bartley
11. Danny Swanson
12. Dylan McGeouch
13. John McGinn
14. Martin Boyle
15. Fraser Murray
16. Vacant (Hopefully Hendo)
17. Big Davie
18. Simon Murray
19. Oli Shaw
20. Vacant (Hopefully Stokesy)

That would be a tremendous squad!!

Swap Porteous for another midfielder and we have a winner!!

[indiejak1413]

I'm pretty sure Handling and Crane are surplus to requirements.

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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Still 3 to come after Stokes. Source, Neil Lennon.


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AFTER Stokes?? :hyper

We badly need another winger. That would be my priority after a striker is signed

[Speedway]

I reckon Slivka's arrival leaves 1 place in the squad as it stands and 3 if Handling and Graham get the Spanish Archer.

[Brightside]

I reckon Slivka's arrival leaves 1 place in the squad as it stands and 3 if Handling and Graham get the Spanish Archer.

Danny wont be in the first team squad based on chats with the coaches at the weekend. He really needs to accept a deal elsewhere. He will not break into this team now.

[eastcoasthibby]

Do you reckon we could still use a bit of pace in that squad?

I agree I think we.need.to add a pacey wide player , if Boyle gets crocked or more so to create competition we need an out and out qide playing.forward.

[Callum7]

1. Gray
2. Hanlon
3. Fontaine
4. Stevenson
5. McGregor
6. Ambrose
7. Swanson
8. Bartley
9. McGinn
10. McGeouch
11. Slivka
12. Matulevicius
13. Handling
14. S. Murray
15. Boyle
16. Graham
17. Whittaker
18.
19.
20.

Porteous, Crane, F. Murray and shaw could be in the list as well.

[Iggy Pope]

Danny wont be in the first team squad based on chats with the coaches at the weekend. He really needs to accept a deal elsewhere. He will not break into this team now.

It pains me to say but watching him at Muirhouse and Selkirk has done nothing to convince me otherwise.

[Billy Whizz]

1. Gray
2. Hanlon
3. Fontaine
4. Stevenson
5. McGregor
6. Ambrose
7. Swanson
8. Bartley
9. McGinn
10. McGeouch
11. Slivka
12. Matulevicius
13. Handling
14. S. Murray
15. Boyle
16. Graham
17. Whittaker
18.
19.
20.

Porteous, Crane, F. Murray and shaw could be in the list as well.

Think Crane will definitely go out on loan, and Graham will be moved on. Not sure about Scott Marlin
Leaves us with 15 outfield players plus 2 goalies, also think we may bring in another goalie.
So around 5 spaces up for grabs including Porteous Murray and Shaw

[MyJo]

1. Gray
2. Hanlon
3. Fontaine
4. Stevenson
5. McGregor
6. Ambrose
7. Swanson
8. Bartley
9. McGinn
10. McGeouch
11. Slivka
12. Matulevicius
13. Handling
14. S. Murray
15. Boyle
16. Graham
17. Whittaker
18.
19.
20.

Porteous, Crane, F. Murray and shaw could be in the list as well.

Crane and shaw to be loaned out. Porteous and Murray to remain in the squad. Handling and Graham free to leave or will be released at the end of the transfer window.

Bring in Stokes, Henderson and Commons and we're done

[Brightside]

Think Crane will definitely go out on loan, and Graham will be moved on. Not sure about Scott Marlin
Leaves us with 15 outfield players plus 2 goalies, also think we may bring in another goalie.
So around 5 spaces up for grabs including Porteous Murray and Shaw
If crane goes out we have no cover at LB otherwise I'd agree

[Franck Stanton]

If crane goes out we have no cover at LB otherwise I'd agree

SW can play left back

[The_Sauz]

SW can play left back
So can Paul Hanlon :agree:

[Ozyhibby]

And both would get the nod before Crane, as that's what happened last season.


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[mjhibby]

From what Nl has said there will be 2/3 more signings. Stokes or striker of that ilk a wide pacey midfielder either from English lower leagues or abroad and one other. Commons will be on board providing he recovers fine from his back op but that could be months away and possibly the first Derby till he's up and running. It's a very strong squad but obviously needing another striker or two. As it's turned out with keatings injury not keeping him could well have been the right thing as it seems to take a good while for him to get his form back after injury. Simon Murray is raw but does the business and has already shown that he is a very good signing and I'm looking forward to seeing how he and davey work out.

[indiejak1413]

Think Crane will definitely go out on loan, and Graham will be moved on. Not sure about Scott Marlin
Leaves us with 15 outfield players plus 2 goalies, also think we may bring in another goalie.
So around 5 spaces up for grabs including Porteous Murray and ShawCranes defo away but he's being held back by the club. They don't want him but they want to pick and choose who takes him.. but it's easy to hold back a kids career when he's only getting £250 a week. Great development by the club.

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[theonlywayisup]

Watching Porteous on Tuesday night convinces me that he's a start in the making.

I don't think he'll develop watching Efe, McGregor, Fontaine and Hanlon from the stand / subs bench and I can't see him getting a pick ahead of them yet.

Instead, I think he should move on loan to a Championship side - maybe Dunfermline or Livingston would be a good pick - until January and then see how things have progressed.

[Smartie]

Watching Porteous on Tuesday night convinces me that he's a start in the making.

I don't think he'll develop watching Efe, McGregor, Fontaine and Hanlon from the stand / subs bench and I can't see him getting a pick ahead of them yet.

Instead, I think he should move on loan to a Championship side - maybe Dunfermline or Livingston would be a good pick - until January and then see how things have progressed.

Dundee United are pretty weak at the back and are supposedly looking for defenders.

I think that would be the ideal move for him - big club, pressure from fans, expected to play well and win every week.

After Wednesday I'd love to see him in a competitive game against stronger opposition as he really looks the part.

I'd only make the loan until January so if he did well or we had any defenders injured or out of form then we could get him back.

[Ozyhibby]

Dundee United are pretty weak at the back and are supposedly looking for defenders.

I think that would be the ideal move for him - big club, pressure from fans, expected to play well and win every week.

After Wednesday I'd love to see him in a competitive game against stronger opposition as he really looks the part.

I'd only make the loan until January so if he did well or we had any defenders injured or out of form then we could get him back.

He could be loaned to another premier league team. He's certainly good enough.


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[Ozyhibby]

Cranes defo away but he's being held back by the club. They don't want him but they want to pick and choose who takes him.. but it's easy to hold back a kids career when he's only getting £250 a week. Great development by the club.

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If it's a loan then of course the club will pick and choose who he goes to?


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[Smartie]

He could be loaned to another premier league team. He's certainly good enough.


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I agree.

He's a bit unlucky that he's emerged at a time when we've got so many good options in his position.

Having been in the Championship for a few years though, I now think it's a pretty decent, competitive league. Playing in a good team, competing for the Championship in front of decent home crowds might be better for him than playing for the likes of Hamilton at a higher level.

[indiejak1413]

I agree but surely 1st team football is what he needs so why prolong the inevitable if there is no chance he's going to play.

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[BSEJVT]

Cranes defo away but he's being held back by the club. They don't want him but they want to pick and choose who takes him.. but it's easy to hold back a kids career when he's only getting £250 a week. Great development by the club.

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The club do what the club see fit to do in the same way as if the player wanted a move and was in demand he would also be agitating for his own way.

It cracks me up how some Hibs "supporters" are always prepared to take the clubs stance on virtually any topic and twist it to criticise the club.

If Crane was the best left back at the club he would be playing every week.

As he is not but is under contract he needs to abide by the clubs wishes or negotiate his release.

With respect I think the club are probably better placed to decide what's best for his future and their investment than the player is.

If they don't want to risk loaning / releasing that player to another club for whatever reason then that is their prerogative.

[Brightside]

Cranes defo away but he's being held back by the club. They don't want him but they want to pick and choose who takes him.. but it's easy to hold back a kids career when he's only getting £250 a week. Great development by the club.

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TBH the boy need to start showing a lot more in games. Others are making the breakthrough.

[MyJo]

The club do what the club see fit to do in the same way as if the player wanted a move and was in demand he would also be agitating for his own way.

It cracks me up how some Hibs "supporters" are always prepared to take the clubs stance on virtually any topic and twist it to criticise the club.

If Crane was the best left back at the club he would be playing every week.

As he is not but is under contract he needs to abide by the clubs wishes or negotiate his release.

With respect I think the club are probably better placed to decide what's best for his future and their investment than the player is.

If they don't want to risk loaning / releasing that player to another club for whatever reason then that is their prerogative.

Can you imagine guys like Stevenson or Hanlon having that kind of attitude when they were that age?

If Crane is of the mind that Hibs are "harming his career" by not putting him in the first team or letting him go on loan to somewhere we think would be unsuitable then he isn't going to make it.

Remember when Kurtis Byrne was scoring goals for fun winning the league and cup double with the under-19's a few years back and his dad pretty much demanded he be put in the first team or he would sign for Celtic......he's now averaging a goal every 4 games roughly in the irish league while Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon, the quiet hardworking guys from the same team are now mainstays in top-6 SPL clubs despite things not working out at Hibs for any of them.

[TrinityHibby]

Can you imagine guys like Stevenson or Hanlon having that kind of attitude when they were that age?

If Crane is of the mind that Hibs are "harming his career" by not putting him in the first team or letting him go on loan to somewhere we think would be unsuitable then he isn't going to make it.

Remember when Kurtis Byrne was scoring goals for fun winning the league and cup double with the under-19's a few years back and his dad pretty much demanded he be put in the first team or he would sign for Celtic......he's now averaging a goal every 4 games roughly in the irish league while Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon, the quiet hardworking guys from the same team are now mainstays in top-6 SPL clubs despite things not working out at Hibs for any of them.
Excellent post and totally agree with you :top marks

[Looper]

Can you imagine guys like Stevenson or Hanlon having that kind of attitude when they were that age?

If Crane is of the mind that Hibs are "harming his career" by not putting him in the first team or letting him go on loan to somewhere we think would be unsuitable then he isn't going to make it.

Remember when Kurtis Byrne was scoring goals for fun winning the league and cup double with the under-19's a few years back and his dad pretty much demanded he be put in the first team or he would sign for Celtic......he's now averaging a goal every 4 games roughly in the irish league while Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon, the quiet hardworking guys from the same team are now mainstays in top-6 SPL clubs despite things not working out at Hibs for any of them.

agree well said!

[BSEJVT]

Can you imagine guys like Stevenson or Hanlon having that kind of attitude when they were that age?

If Crane is of the mind that Hibs are "harming his career" by not putting him in the first team or letting him go on loan to somewhere we think would be unsuitable then he isn't going to make it.

Remember when Kurtis Byrne was scoring goals for fun winning the league and cup double with the under-19's a few years back and his dad pretty much demanded he be put in the first team or he would sign for Celtic......he's now averaging a goal every 4 games roughly in the irish league while Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon, the quiet hardworking guys from the same team are now mainstays in top-6 SPL clubs despite things not working out at Hibs for any of them.

Well said

I think there was similar chat around the end of the winter transfer window at the start of this year also.

Over the last 5 or 6 years we have had at least 4 or 5 development full backs who were going to be the next big thing and not one of them has made the breakthrough into being a first team regular.

I don't think any of them are playing at any great level now except Booth, maybe we need to trust the management team to recognise who is and who isn't capable and ready

[Speedway]

Neil Lennon has stated (according to the EEN) that he will be working with a first team squad of 20 (NOT including goalkeepers) this season.

Therefore, to know how many signings are still to be made, we do a simple count up of who we have got.

Goalkeepers aside this gives us:

1. David Gray
2. Steven Whittaker
3. Lewis Stevenson
4. Callum Crane
5. Efe Ambrose
6. Paul Hanlon
7. Liam Fontaine
8. Darren McGregor
9. Scott Martin
10. Marvin Bartley
11. Danny Swanson
12. Dylan McGeough
13. John McGinn
14. Martin Boyle
15. Anthony Stokes
16. Big Davie
17. Simon Murray
18. Brian Graham
19. Vyk Slivka
20. Vacant

So unless I've missed something, we know that the remaining places could be taken by:

19. Ryan Porteous
20. Oli Shaw

Or we could have two new players coming in such as:

19. Stokes
20. Commons

This is assuming that the anticipated departures of Handling and Graham DON'T happen.

If they DO happen, then I make it that another 2 players are still to be signed AFTER Stokes/Commons. This could be why Fyvie and Pennant were not offered deals 'at this moment'.

Thoughts?

Edit:updated squad

So with Stokes in and Handling out, room for another BEFORE Graham's future is decided.

[Callum7]

1. Gray
2. Hanlon
3. Fontaine
4. Stevenson
5. McGregor
6. Ambrose
7. Swanson
8. Bartley
9. McGinn
10. McGeouch
11. Slivka
12. Matulevicius
13. Handling
14. S. Murray
15. Boyle
16. Graham
17. Whittaker
18. Stokes
19.
20.

2 more signings expected then?

[JDT]

1. Gray
2. Hanlon
3. Fontaine
4. Stevenson
5. McGregor
6. Ambrose
7. Swanson
8. Bartley
9. McGinn
10. McGeouch
11. Slivka
12. Matulevicius
13. Handling
14. S. Murray
15. Boyle
16. Graham
17. Whittaker
18. Stokes
19.
20.

2 more signings expected then?

Handling is away to Dumbarton

[hfc rd]

1. Gray
2. Hanlon
3. Fontaine
4. Stevenson
5. McGregor
6. Ambrose
7. Swanson
8. Bartley
9. McGinn
10. McGeouch
11. Slivka
12. Matulevicius
13. Handling
14. S. Murray
15. Boyle
16. Graham
17. Whittaker
18. Stokes
19.
20.

2 more signings expected then?



Handling is away and Graham might probably go as well. I'm sure Lennon mentioned we are keeping a spot open for Kris Commons if he makes a good healthy recovery from his injury. That will then still leave 2 spots available. Ideally a LW and striker is what I'd like.

[flash]

Fraser Murray gets one of those places for me. Be quite happy for Shaw to hang around too.

[Leith Green]

Yeah i also think Lennon will be keeping shaw , murray , and porteous in the 1st team squad this season.. we are in a really good place just now

[Silver Fox]

Are we not expecting Porteous and Fraser Murray to be part of the squad and possibly Shaw?

[Silver Fox]

Yeah i also think Lennon will be keeping shaw , murray , and porteous in the 1st team squad this season.. we are in a really good place just now

:agree:

[Ken]

Hibs have announced our transfer business is done [emoji736]


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[MyJo]

Are we not expecting Porteous and Fraser Murray to be part of the squad and possibly Shaw?

:agree: i would be more than happy to have Porteous and Murray as part of the squad for the season, they have shown they are capable of stepping up and holding thier own in the first team and while we have the luxury of a strong squad they can get game time under thier belts without us pushing them too hard too soon like we did with some others.

Shaw, Crane and Martin i would put out on loan.

[TelaStella]

Hibs have announced our transfer business is done [emoji736]


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I wonder where this leaves the Commons deal? It was Lennon who hinted he would be coming back in the first place


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[NAE NOOKIE]

I wonder where this leaves the Commons deal? It was Lennon who hinted he would be coming back in the first place


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Commons isn't really a transfer as such though ... he clearly isn't going to be match fit any time soon and I doubt Hibs will be thinking of him as part of our transfer activity .... If we do get to the stage where Commons would be considered fit enough for us to be seriously looking at him I would think how well we are doing in the league will be a factor.
If we are doing really well I cant see how it would be good business to give a contract to a player at the tail end of his career who has struggled with injury in recent years and who might not even break into the first team if all of our midfield pool is injury free and playing well.

[Speedway]

I wonder where this leaves the Commons deal? It was Lennon who hinted he would be coming back in the first place


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Commons won't be signed inside this window.

[Ray_]

Commons won't be signed inside this window.

As he is out of contract, he can be signed anytime.

[Speedway]

As he is out of contract, he can be signed anytime.

He can, but he won't be.