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Nameless
19-07-2017, 06:44 PM
Scotland -v- England at the womens Euros is just about to kick off on C4. A few Hibbys in the Scotland squad, and a real chance of beating a very talented England side.

C'mon girls, do us proud!!

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I'm_cabbaged
19-07-2017, 06:53 PM
Any Hibs ladies playing?

cabbageandribs1875
19-07-2017, 06:57 PM
oh dear....two defenders looked a bit silly there 0-1

Nameless
19-07-2017, 06:57 PM
1-0 England. Simple through ball and the Arsenal striker is 1 on 1, good finish but we are playing decent so far.

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Nakedmanoncrack
19-07-2017, 06:57 PM
Been a good first 10 mins before losing the goal, hopefully flood gates not about to open.

HFCdeb
19-07-2017, 06:57 PM
1-0 to England. The Hibs ladies are on the bench.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 06:58 PM
Any Hibs ladies playing?
No, all 3 on the bench.

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Shrekko
19-07-2017, 07:01 PM
oh dear....two defenders looked a bit silly there 0-1

Will see at half time but the scorer looked offside?

Hibernian Verse
19-07-2017, 07:08 PM
Will see at half time but the scorer looked offside?

Yards on.

Not quite sure what I was expecting but for an international game this is really poor.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 07:12 PM
Yards on.

Not quite sure what I was expecting but for an international game this is really poor.
It's been competitive, fairly even and I've yet to see anyone dive or roll around like they have been shot. Scotlands striker Jane Ross has looked very decent too.

2-0 as I type this [emoji52]

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davhibby
19-07-2017, 07:15 PM
Don't think that was a freekick for the second

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2017, 07:16 PM
You do know Alan Titchmarsh in on ITV?

Vault Boy
19-07-2017, 07:18 PM
That's that.

Nakedmanoncrack
19-07-2017, 07:18 PM
Flood gates open.

NthCarolinaHibs
19-07-2017, 07:18 PM
This could turn into a right MacBeamer...😳

High-On-Hibs
19-07-2017, 07:18 PM
It's hard to take the womens game seriously when you see a series of goals like this.

Big_Franck
19-07-2017, 07:18 PM
Hardly ever watch womens football so I thought I'd give it a chance. Its just as bad as I had imagined.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 07:18 PM
Jeezo!! 3-0 and that was awful defending. I can see England getting 8 or 9 here.

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bod
19-07-2017, 07:19 PM
You do know Alan Titchmarsh in on ITV?
Mrs in charge of your remote tonight?

cabbageandribs1875
19-07-2017, 07:19 PM
like the 2nd goal the keeper not covering herself in glory and our defenders too slow to react...game over after 30 minutes unfortunately





anyway, off to watch star trek recordings now

I'm_cabbaged
19-07-2017, 07:21 PM
Hardly ever watch womens football so I thought I'd give it a chance. Its just as bad as I had imagined.

Exactly what I was thinking, how bad are the goalkeepers 😂

Since90+2
19-07-2017, 07:23 PM
I wonder what level the Scottish ladies team would be able to compete at in the men's game? I reckon teams in the Lowland league would probably hammer them.

dmc1875
19-07-2017, 07:25 PM
The goalkeeping is the part of the women's game that gets me they all seem shocking

I'm_cabbaged
19-07-2017, 07:30 PM
[QUOTE=Since90+2;5107384]I wonder what level the Scottish ladies team would be able to compete at in the men's game? I reckon teams in the Lowland league would probably hammer them.[/QUOTEhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/1216738/australias-national-womens-team-thumped-7-0-by-under-15s-boys-team/
Sorry can't do links

flash
19-07-2017, 07:33 PM
I thought there would be goals in the big match tonight and I was right.
2-0 to Dundee United away at Buckie Thistle.

G B Young
19-07-2017, 07:36 PM
Watched a few minutes. Scotland are abysmal although I gather they have some of their better players out injured. Looked like it could be seven or eight nil if England keep the tempo up.

G B Young
19-07-2017, 07:37 PM
Mrs in charge of your remote tonight?

Don't knock Love Your Garden. Fine programme :wink:

hibee1875
19-07-2017, 07:37 PM
Standard posts slating the women's game 🙄.

For what it's worth, the standard of the English players is pretty decent, their defenders in particular. The English players all seem a lot physically stronger than us, they look like proper athletes.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 07:38 PM
But for a good goalie and 2 decent central defenders, we would have a decent side. Scotland are competing well across midfield, and look dangerous up front. We have a total lack of height in this team, so the corners and crosses are just wasting possession. Having said all that, England are clearly a very talented team and are superior with the ball.

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Lancs Harp
19-07-2017, 07:40 PM
If Hibs ladies are with Glasgow the best ladies team in Scotland how come none of our girls are in the team? Do Scotlands best players play down south?

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2017, 07:41 PM
Mrs in charge of your remote tonight?

Nope, I did happen to turn over for a minute and caught that comedy clanger, i mean why use your hands when you can get the bar to save it for you? :faf:

I'm now onto watchdog, Alan was getting on my titch.

Haymaker
19-07-2017, 07:43 PM
If Hibs ladies are with Glasgow the best ladies team in Scotland how come none of our girls are in the team? Do Scotlands best players play down south?

Or here in the US I imagine

Shrekko
19-07-2017, 07:43 PM
Yards on.



Yards? Really?...wow

hibee1875
19-07-2017, 07:44 PM
If Hibs ladies are with Glasgow the best ladies team in Scotland how come none of our girls are in the team? Do Scotlands best players play down south?

A lot of players are moving abroad these days. I'm sure one plays for Bayern Munich. One of England's players just signed for Barcelona. The woman's super league probably is where most Scottish girls aim for. Apart from hibs and Glasgow city the standard up here isn't the greatest. There's a lot more competition down south.

ElginHibbie
19-07-2017, 07:46 PM
A lot of players are moving abroad these days. I'm sure one plays for Bayern Munich. One of England's players just signed for Barcelona. The woman's super league probably is where most Scottish girls aim for. Apart from hibs and Glasgow city the standard up here isn't the greatest. There's a lot more competition down south.

I think the girl who played for Bayern left, but a lot of them play in Sweden and think I saw one of the squad plays in Italy.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 07:47 PM
If Hibs ladies are with Glasgow the best ladies team in Scotland how come none of our girls are in the team? Do Scotlands best players play down south?
Our striker, Jane Ross plays for Man City, I think she was their top scorer last season. The womens game in Scotland is still in a relative state of infancy, and has nowhere near the finances of countries like England, Italy, USA, Canada or Germany. Just to qualify for the Euros is an amazing achievement.

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Velma Dinkley
19-07-2017, 07:49 PM
The men's game has been getting money pumped into for centuries and look at the state of it. The Scottish women have done amazing with heehaw cash. If you hate Scotland or hate football then fair enough but just say it.

Pretty Boy
19-07-2017, 07:54 PM
Women who are playing international football getting slaughtered by the pub league and armchair legends.

In years to come these women will be able to say they represented their country at the highest level.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 07:56 PM
4-0, hat-trick for Taylor. The theme of the night is certainly our poor goalkeeper and central defence.

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Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 07:56 PM
Mighty England dominating the jocks again I see. I didn't even know this was on until I got tipped off by pm.
;-)

ElginHibbie
19-07-2017, 07:57 PM
4-0, hat-trick for Taylor. The theme of the night is certainly our poor goalkeeper and central defence.

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Poor central defence.... well good to see as a country we are at least consistent

Thecat23
19-07-2017, 07:57 PM
Woman can't play in goals. I am even going to put "FACT" in there too. Absolutely brutal at every level.

hibee1875
19-07-2017, 07:57 PM
4-0, hat-trick for Taylor. The theme of the night is certainly our poor goalkeeper and central defence.

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Unfair on the keeper id say. She's been let down by her two CBs, one of which is only on their 5th cap.

lord bunberry
19-07-2017, 07:58 PM
This game would be a lot closer if our keeper used her hands. She ran out there and her hands were far too low.

hibee1875
19-07-2017, 07:58 PM
Woman can't play in goals. I am even going to put "FACT" in there too. Absolutely brutal at every level.

Good commanding punch by the England keeper in a crowded box there...

Lancs Harp
19-07-2017, 07:59 PM
Very true PB.

I dont know if Scotland have qualified for this tournament before or not but its been a great journey for Scotland to be there. Tings are at least moving in the right direction. England with the help of considerable resources have improved dramatically over the past 10 years or so and have moved from being no hopers to a team that can at least challenge for things. As someone posted earlier the ladies game in Scotland is in its relative infancy. The girls need a bit of backing not slating.

Joe6-2
19-07-2017, 08:00 PM
Mighty England dominating the jocks again I see. I didn't even know this was on until I got tipped off by pm.
;-)

Booooo

Bishop Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:01 PM
Mighty England dominating the jocks again I see. I didn't even know this was on until I got tipped off by pm.
;-)

Again! Youse sneaked a point at Hampden.

Woman's game is chalk and cheese compared to 10 years ago. Obvious to see the fitness levels are excellent. Keepers and centre halves are the weak Links though. As EPL teams pump money into the woman's game, the gap between The English and Scottish leagues will accelerate like the men's game.

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Again! Youse sneaked a point at Hampden.

Woman's game is chalk and cheese compared to 10 years ago. Obvious to see the fitness levels are excellent. Keepers and centre halves are the weak Links though. As EPL teams pump money into the woman's game, the gap between The English and Scottish leagues will accelerate like the men's game.

Class always rises to the top mate, England will always pump Scotland.

hibsbollah
19-07-2017, 08:04 PM
Women who are playing international football getting slaughtered by the pub league and armchair legends.

In years to come these women will be able to say they represented their country at the highest level.

:top marksAll this pish chat is up there with 'Africans just cant play in goal' you used to hear. Show some respect FFS.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:04 PM
Mighty England dominating the jocks again I see. I didn't even know this was on until I got tipped off by pm.
;-)
Call yourself an Englishman! You should be down your local, St George painted on your coupon, screaming at the TV.

To negate any cultural stereotypes, I can confirm that I am watching this in a kilt and Glengarry, eating haggis and drinking Irn-Bru.

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High-On-Hibs
19-07-2017, 08:06 PM
Class always rises to the top mate, England will always pump Scotland.

Classholes always rise to the top and England has plenty of them. :wink:

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:07 PM
Classholes always rise to the top and England has plenty of them. :wink:

11 Scottish ladies on display just like the men's team :-)

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:08 PM
Call yourself an Englishman! You should be down your local, St George painted on your coupon, screaming at the TV.

To negate any cultural stereotypes, I can confirm that I am watching this in a kilt and Glengarry, eating haggis and drinking Irn-Bru.

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To be fair I still have my Morris dancing kit on compete with leg bells so I am contributing.

cabbageandribs1875
19-07-2017, 08:09 PM
oh dear, what a classless post, family forum eh

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:10 PM
oh dear, what a classless post, family forum eh

You are correct, apologies I have now amended my post.

Bishop Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:12 PM
Call yourself an Englishman! You should be down your local, St George painted on your coupon, screaming at the TV.

To negate any cultural stereotypes, I can confirm that I am watching this in a kilt and Glengarry, eating haggis and drinking Irn-Bru.

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He's got the white plastic garden chair ready to throw about later in the tournament ;-)

Lancs Harp
19-07-2017, 08:14 PM
England Scotland ladies match degenerates into the usual England Scotland punch and judy show on Hibs.net :greengrin

The odd thing is Scouse probably fights the corner for Scottish football on a regular basis with his circle of friends and relatives down south. I know I do. But on here its back to Punch and Judy. :wink:

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:15 PM
He's got the white plastic garden chair ready to throw about later in the tournament ;-)

I'm dancing about the living room with it now...cmon then

bod
19-07-2017, 08:16 PM
:faf: the banters better than the game

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:16 PM
England Scotland ladies match degenerates into the usual England Scotland punch and judy show on Hibs.net :greengrin

The odd thing is Scouse probably fights the corner for Scottish football on a regular basis with his circle of friends and relatives down south. I know I do. But on here its back to Punch and Judy. :wink:

Ach it's all good fun, I love you all.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:17 PM
Both teams have some absolute honeyz. Toni Duggan is B.E.A-utiful, as well as being a very handy right back.

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Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:19 PM
Both teams have some absolute honeyz. Toni Duggan is B.E.A-utiful, as well as being a very handy right back.

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I often think the same of Sir David Gray, must be a right back thing.

SquashedFrogg
19-07-2017, 08:20 PM
Class always rises to the top mate, England will always pump Scotland.

Can we switch this chat to Tennis? Having a hill named after you doesn't count btw :na na:

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:22 PM
I often think the same of Sir David Gray, must be a right back thing.
I think it helps that she plays for Everton, the other love in my life [emoji6]

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Colr
19-07-2017, 08:22 PM
Any Hibs players on?

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:23 PM
Can we switch this chat to Tennis? Having a hill named after you doesn't count btw :na na:

This is strictly an 11 a side team game conversation :-)

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:24 PM
Any Hibs players on?
Not yet.

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Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:24 PM
I think it helps that she plays for Everton, the other love in my life [emoji6]

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Does she really? I never realised the bitters had anyone so good looking.

Johnny Clash
19-07-2017, 08:26 PM
Good to see the women just get up and play on after they get clattered. No rolling aout play acting that you see plenty of in the men's game.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:27 PM
Does she really? I never realised the bitters had anyone so good looking.
I stand corrected, she went from Everton to Man City, and has just signed for Barcelona!!

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Colr
19-07-2017, 08:27 PM
Not yet.

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Well, that's clearly where they are going wrong!

Lancs Harp
19-07-2017, 08:28 PM
Does she really? I never realised the bitters had anyone so good looking.

Ridiculous comment, Peter Beardsley and Phil Neville played for Everton.

Colr
19-07-2017, 08:31 PM
Good to see the women just get up and play on after they get clattered. No rolling aout play acting that you see plenty of in the men's game.

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahvII8Wuqw4

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:32 PM
5-0. We have been well skelped, BUT, we still have 2 more games to go. England are capable of winning this tournament, and will turn over other sides. This is no disgrace, and I am proud of all the women representing us tonight (even our goalie).

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Sas_The_Hibby
19-07-2017, 08:34 PM
Really don't see the point in comparing the women's game to the men's. I don't watch women's tennis thinking they're not as good as Federer or Murray.

Lancs Harp
19-07-2017, 08:36 PM
5-0. We have been well skelped, BUT, we still have 2 more games to go. England are capable of winning this tournament, and will turn over other sides. This is no disgrace, and I am proud of all the women representing us tonight (even our goalie).

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Although the keeper hasnt had the best of nights I think she was a little let down* by her central defenders

* I refrained from using the term "exposed" for reasons of decency.

Sas_The_Hibby
19-07-2017, 08:36 PM
6-0

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:37 PM
6-0, Toni Duggan nods one right at the death. Why do you hurt me, when I love you so much!!

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Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:37 PM
Really don't see the point in comparing the women's game to the men's. I don't watch women's tennis thinking they're not as good as Federer or Murray.

I don't think any of us do either to be honest.There can be no direct comparison.

Scouse Hibee
19-07-2017, 08:38 PM
Ridiculous comment, Peter Beardsley and Phil Neville played for Everton.

:-)

SquashedFrogg
19-07-2017, 08:39 PM
This is strictly an 11 a side team game conversation :-)

:greengrin

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:40 PM
Although the keeper hasnt had the best of nights I think she was a little let down* by her central defenders

* I refrained from using the term "exposed" for reasons of decency.
You're right. The keeper didn't have much protection. She can't be that bad I suppose, as I think that was her 192nd cap.

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Colr
19-07-2017, 08:41 PM
Really don't see the point in comparing the women's game to the men's. I don't watch women's tennis thinking they're not as good as Federer or Murray.

Indeed. It's dumb discussion.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 08:46 PM
You're right. The keeper didn't have much protection. She can't be that bad I suppose, as I think that was her 192nd cap.

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Scratch that, she has 200 caps! It's a sin that we have an athlete who has represented her country 200 times and the SFA aren't making a massive deal about it. If this was America, she'd be a national hero. I'm not a feminist, but our nationwide attitude to women's sporting achievements in this country stinks.

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BSEJVT
19-07-2017, 08:51 PM
I stand corrected, she went from Everton to Man City, and has just signed for Barcelona!!

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And she is also a striker

Other than that and the other errors you corrected you were bang on

SquashedFrogg
19-07-2017, 08:51 PM
Scratch that, she has 200 caps! It's a sin that we have an athlete who has represented her country 200 times and the SFA aren't making a massive deal about it. If this was America, she'd be a national hero. I'm not a feminist, but our nationwide attitude to women's sporting achievements in this country stinks.

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Agreed 100%. Some of the comments on this thread are frightening.

I guess some people are still stuck firmly in the dark ages....

Colr
19-07-2017, 08:53 PM
Agreed 100%. Some of the comments on this thread are frightening.

I guess some people are still stuck firmly in the dark ages....

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?322980-NHC-Women-s-Football

HUTCHYHIBBY
19-07-2017, 09:10 PM
Mighty England dominating the jocks again I see. I didn't even know this was on until I got tipped off by pm.
;-)

Could be the first time I've ever posted this but, LOL! :-)

HFCdeb
19-07-2017, 09:23 PM
Knew this thread would turn into a depressing slagging of women's football then the equally depressing chat about their looks.
Proud of Scotland getting to a major tournament. Hopefully it's the beginning of us being ever presents in them.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 09:28 PM
equally depressing chat about their looks

So, women can (and do) comment on the attractiveness of male players, but men cannot do likewise about women? That's not very open minded now, is it?


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Nameless
19-07-2017, 09:30 PM
Knew this thread would turn into a depressing slagging of women's football then the equally depressing chat about their looks.
Proud of Scotland getting to a major tournament. Hopefully it's the beginning of us being ever presents in them.
Also, if you read the whole thread, it's far more complimentary and encouraging than it is disparaging.

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Lago
19-07-2017, 09:34 PM
Also, if you read the whole thread, it's far more complimentary and encouraging than it is disparaging.

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Having said that, having just seen the goals & that awful strip they are on a par with the Strachan's lot.

HFCdeb
19-07-2017, 09:40 PM
So, women can (and do) comment on the attractiveness of male players, but men cannot do likewise about women? That's not very open minded now, is it?


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I didn't say that was ok either so my open-mindedness is in fact.

HFCdeb
19-07-2017, 09:42 PM
Also, if you read the whole thread, it's far more complimentary and encouraging than it is disparaging.

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I did read it all, knowing full well it would descend into chat about looks, hence my opening sentence "I knew this thread would turn into..."

hibbysam
19-07-2017, 09:46 PM
I did read it all, knowing full well it would descend into chat about looks, hence my opening sentence "I knew this thread would turn into..."

Why, just because they play football, can they not be attractive? Or can't we comment on said attractiveness? Actors/actresses get spoken about in the same way.

Looking for something to make a negative out of for me!

Nameless
19-07-2017, 10:01 PM
I did read it all, knowing full well it would descend into chat about looks, hence my opening sentence "I knew this thread would turn into..."
It hardly "descended into chat about looks". I made one comment about Toni Duggan, which is the only one about looks in all the 10 pages. The comment was made slightly tongue in cheek, given that we were getting horsed at the time.

It's nice to see that you picked out the minority of negative comments, and bypassed the positive ones - Pretty Boys post on this thread is more indicative of the positivity towards womens football on this board I feel, than the perceived "depressing slating" that you seem to have read.

Anyway, I share your hope that this tournament can be a positive experience for our ladies.

I also hope England get to the final, so I can see more of Ms Duggan on my telly box [emoji4]

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Brightside
19-07-2017, 10:07 PM
Both teams have some absolute honeyz. Toni Duggan is B.E.A-utiful, as well as being a very handy right back.

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Toni is a forward.

Johnny Clash
19-07-2017, 10:09 PM
Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahvII8Wuqw4

Great clip. Great goal !

Brightside
19-07-2017, 10:09 PM
Bottom line is England are a professional team. Scotland are miles away from that level and are missing the only world class player they have. The 2 CHs for Scotland are awful examples and it's beyond me why they would get picked.

Nameless
19-07-2017, 10:11 PM
Toni is a forward.
I'm not going to lie, some of my"facts" tonight make Trump look straight as a die. Research, then post!!

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Glory Lurker
23-07-2017, 04:06 PM
Portugal now. Should be a chance to get back in the mix. Come on, ladies!

:saltireflag:saltireflag:saltireflag

Hibby Gav
23-07-2017, 04:09 PM
Portugal now. Should be a chance to get back in the mix. Come on, ladies!

:saltireflag:saltireflag:saltireflag


And 2 Hibbys playing! :aok:

Since90+2
23-07-2017, 04:18 PM
An almost comical miss there from the Scottish forward.

Nameless
23-07-2017, 05:05 PM
A wee bit disappointed with Scotland today. We should expect to beat Portugal, so I expect better in the second half.

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wick hibby
23-07-2017, 05:24 PM
1-1

Sir David Gray
23-07-2017, 05:31 PM
2-1 Portugal

Sir David Gray
23-07-2017, 05:51 PM
Full time 2-1 defeat.

edwards
23-07-2017, 05:56 PM
an
Full time 2-1 defeat.


Was about to say the manager Anna Signeuls has been in charge for far to long and the Sottish woman's team need new blood then I saw this below pity she couldn't have been in charge before more forward thinking and has done well in womans football.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39471314

Nameless
23-07-2017, 06:36 PM
Early home from another tournament, but still really impressed we qualified in the first place. Our domestic competition isn't up to much, but most of our team play in the top leagues. This proves that we are a country who produce talent, so now is the time for the SFA to build on this success and give our women the same backing as they do the men's game.

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Sir David Gray
23-07-2017, 06:41 PM
Early home from another tournament, but still really impressed we qualified in the first place. Our domestic competition isn't up to much, but most of our team play in the top leagues. This proves that we are a country who produce talent, so now is the time for the SFA to build on this success and give our women the same backing as they do the men's game.

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Do you mean the same backing in a financial sense?

I would be surprised if any country's association does that.

Nameless
23-07-2017, 06:54 PM
Do you mean the same backing in a financial sense?

More money would help, but no. More professional coaching available to the younger age groups, and more "girls club" sides would be great. I went to school with 2 girls who were easily among the most talented players I ever played with or against. Also at my school was a player who went on to play junior football for a good few years, and both these girls were better than him. Neither girl continued playing after leaving school, and it makes me wonder how many are lost to the game in the same way. I left school in '99, so accept that things are better now, but we still have a way to go.


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BSEJVT
23-07-2017, 07:12 PM
I am a great advocate of women's football and am happy with it being supported, both by Hibs at club level and by the SFA at International level, but the support given to it needs to be proportionate to participation rates to some extent and to the revenue that it raises itself or we risk damaging further the "golden goose" that drives the revenue for youth and women's football, the men's game.

I would be prepared to bet that most women and girls players are first attracted to the game by their support or that of their forbears support of it as a professional men's sport.

Women's football, at least in the UK (Scotland particularly) isn't sufficiently well publicised / supported (by folk actually attending games) to generate the participation levels we are now thankfully seeing.

If we were to take Hibs an example.

The Hibs women's team is far more successful than the Hibs men's team has been.

I don't think even the women's team most ardent activist would argue for an equal share of the revenue raised by Hibs.

Whether its liked or not, football is a commercial business at elite level regardless of whether it is the women's or men's game and the revenue given to either party will be to a large extent by their individual commercial activities, crowds and success.

I am happy that the Hibs women's team is supported by the club but would have real issues if I thought that that was to the severe detriment of the men's team which is what I predominantly follow. Thankfully I don't believe that to be the case.

Brightside
23-07-2017, 07:15 PM
FA invested 7.1m in grassroots girls football last year. SFA invested 700k. It's simply not ever going to happen in Scotland. Any kid who gets to a decent level will be away at 14/15.

BSEJVT
23-07-2017, 07:56 PM
FA invested 7.1m in grassroots girls football last year. SFA invested 700k. It's simply not ever going to happen in Scotland. Any kid who gets to a decent level will be away at 14/15.

Isn't the problem though that the FA's income outstrips the SFA's income by far more than that ratio and the SFA are actually doing better proportionally?

Unfortunately the issue is even more graphic in the men's game and SPL teams are struggling to compete wages wise with div 2 and conference teams

madhatter
23-07-2017, 08:30 PM
how Spain didn't get that penalty I'll never know...

and for the ref to just drop the ball to England's goalkeeper...very strange.

Allant1981
23-07-2017, 08:33 PM
an


Was about to say the manager Anna Signeuls has been in charge for far to long and the Sottish woman's team need new blood then I saw this below pity she couldn't have been in charge before more forward thinking and has done well in womans football.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39471314

shelley is a cracking coach, hopefully can spur them on

Aldo
23-07-2017, 08:38 PM
Shocking defensive performance especially for the second goal. Both CH's caught ball watching and too far up the park!

jacomo
23-07-2017, 08:49 PM
I am a great advocate of women's football and am happy with it being supported, both by Hibs at club level and by the SFA at International level, but the support given to it needs to be proportionate to participation rates to some extent and to the revenue that it raises itself or we risk damaging further the "golden goose" that drives the revenue for youth and women's football, the men's game.

I would be prepared to bet that most women and girls players are first attracted to the game by their support or that of their forbears support of it as a professional men's sport.

Women's football, at least in the UK (Scotland particularly) isn't sufficiently well publicised / supported (by folk actually attending games) to generate the participation levels we are now thankfully seeing.

If we were to take Hibs an example.

The Hibs women's team is far more successful than the Hibs men's team has been.

I don't think even the women's team most ardent activist would argue for an equal share of the revenue raised by Hibs.

Whether its liked or not, football is a commercial business at elite level regardless of whether it is the women's or men's game and the revenue given to either party will be to a large extent by their individual commercial activities, crowds and success.

I am happy that the Hibs women's team is supported by the club but would have real issues if I thought that that was to the severe detriment of the men's team which is what I predominantly follow. Thankfully I don't believe that to be the case.


I don't anyone is suggesting that Hibs support our Ladies team beyond any regard for commercial realities.

But I do believe that prudent investment is growing the game and you simply cannot ignore women's participation in football.

I also believe that the success of Hibs Ladies drives commercial revenue for the club as a whole - including attendance at our first team games.

Who knows where we will be in 20 years time but women's football has come a long, long way in 20 years. Who is to say this growth won't continue?

BSEJVT
24-07-2017, 09:57 AM
I don't anyone is suggesting that Hibs support our Ladies team beyond any regard for commercial realities.

But I do believe that prudent investment is growing the game and you simply cannot ignore women's participation in football.

I also believe that the success of Hibs Ladies drives commercial revenue for the club as a whole - including attendance at our first team games.

Who knows where we will be in 20 years time but women's football has come a long, long way in 20 years. Who is to say this growth won't continue?

I don't disagree with what you say at all and I hope that women's football does continue to grow and develop.

Where we probably depart is on the point of what prudent investment is.

I would argue that Hibs have invested prudently in our women's team, the success of which is there for all to see.

As some of our big spending years of the past 30 years on the men's team have shown however throwing money at something isn't necessarily the answer.

I think there would be huge divisions in the support if our investment in the women's team were to grow to such an extent that it had a detrimental effect on the men's team.

I would however doubt that the women's team drive commercial revenue for the club other than possibly in greater attendances.

I think our having a women's team stops our being viewed negatively (as for example people viewed Muirfield Golf club when it wouldn't admit women members) but I have huge doubts that businesses invest monies into the club generally borne out of their support of the women's team.

Those monies would IMO, go and, would be better for the women's team going directly to them

Colr
27-07-2017, 07:40 PM
1-0 up against Spain!

H113EE5
27-07-2017, 07:43 PM
Tin helmet on ....... no wonder there's next to no exposure on TV for woman's football. This is pi$$ poor. Geez the goalkeepers are absolutely hopeless ( the Scotland one has over 200 caps and can't even friggin' catch the ball) and just as the Scotland goalie is booked for a reckless journey outside her penalty box, the Spanish one does the same. If it wasn't a Scottish team playing, then the TV would be off.

Anyway..... 75% of the possession to Spain....... 1-0 to Scotland

Broken Gnome
27-07-2017, 07:46 PM
1-0 up against Spain!

We'll do enough to go through and England will shaft us. It's like Euro 96 all over again, just 99 per cent less painful.

Glory Lurker
27-07-2017, 07:48 PM
We need a six goal swing against Portugal (with England winning).

iwasthere1972
27-07-2017, 07:48 PM
Tin helmet on ....... no wonder there's next to no exposure on TV for woman's football. This is pi$$ poor. Geez the goalkeepers are absolutely hopeless ( the Scotland one has over 200 caps and can't even friggin' catch the ball) and just as the Scotland goalie is booked for a reckless journey outside her penalty box, the Spanish one does the same. If it wasn't a Scottish team playing, then the TV would be off.

Anyway..... 75% of the possession to Spain....... 1-0 to Scotland

Apparently the Scottish goalie had two world class saves. I must have missed them. :greengrin

For all the possession that Spain have had even they're not that good.

Come on the Scots wimmen.

iwasthere1972
27-07-2017, 07:50 PM
We need a six goal swing against Portugal (with England winning).

It's a strange one. Looks like provided the English win we only have to win by two. I say only but you know what I mean.

England winning 2-1.

RoxburghHibs
27-07-2017, 07:52 PM
We'll do enough to go through and England will shaft us. It's like Euro 96 all over again, just 99 per cent less painful.

How does Scotland winning 2-0 and Portugal getting beat say 2-1 mean we are above Portugal?

:confused:

Glory Lurker
27-07-2017, 07:53 PM
Apparently the Scottish goalie had two world class saves. I must have missed them. :greengrin

For all the possession that Spain have had even they're not that good.

Come on the Scots wimmen.

Deffo one world class save. Cracker.

Billy Whizz
27-07-2017, 07:54 PM
How does Scotland winning 2-0 and Portugal getting beat say 2-1 mean we are above Portugal?

:confused:

I'd like to know too

Glory Lurker
27-07-2017, 07:56 PM
Goal difference from won games first?:confused:

LeithMike
27-07-2017, 07:57 PM
Goal difference from games among tied teams? Thereby discount England GD.

iwasthere1972
27-07-2017, 07:57 PM
England are through with a win, a draw or even a one or two-goal defeat, If England lose by three or more, they will be out if Spain win. If England lose 2-0 and Spain win, England would be at worst second ahead of Portugal on overall goal difference.
Portugal are through with any win if Spain do not win. Portugal are definitely through if they win by three goals, or a two-goal margin other than 2-0. If Portugal win by one goal, they need Spain not to win. If Portugal win 2-0, they are through if Spain do not win or if Spain win 1-0. If Portugal win 2-0 and Spain win 2-1, they will be split on disciplinary points, or then on coefficient, which favours Spain. If Portugal draw, they need Spain to lose. If Portugal lose they are out.
Spain are through if they win unless Portugal beat England by a two-goal margin. If that result is 3-1, 4-2 etc, Spain cannot go through; if it is 2-0, Spain would be out if they won 1-0, or if they win 2-1 and are behind Portugal on disciplinary rankings. Spain are through with a draw if Portugal do not win. If Spain lose by one goal, they are through if Portugal lose. If Spain lose by two goals or more, they are out.
Scotland must win by two goals and hope Portugal lose.

Simples. :greengrin

Colr
27-07-2017, 07:58 PM
Tin helmet on ....... no wonder there's next to no exposure on TV for woman's football. This is pi$$ poor. Geez the goalkeepers are absolutely hopeless ( the Scotland one has over 200 caps and can't even friggin' catch the ball) and just as the Scotland goalie is booked for a reckless journey outside her penalty box, the Spanish one does the same. If it wasn't a Scottish team playing, then the TV would be off.

Anyway..... 75% of the possession to Spain....... 1-0 to Scotland

Scottish goalkeepers? Are you Jemima Hill!

H113EE5
27-07-2017, 07:59 PM
Apparently the Scottish goalie had two world class saves. I must have missed them. :greengrin

For all the possession that Spain have had even they're not that good.

Come on the Scots wimmen.

You did.... there have been two shots which hit the post that have bounced through her hands. :agree:

RoxburghHibs
27-07-2017, 07:59 PM
Goal difference from won games first?:confused:

That does fit but wtf

H113EE5
27-07-2017, 07:59 PM
Scottish goalkeepers? Are you Jemima Hill!

Very good :top marks

Broken Gnome
27-07-2017, 08:00 PM
How does Scotland winning 2-0 and Portugal getting beat say 2-1 mean we are above Portugal?

:confused:

Goal difference between teams tied 2nd-4th, completely excluding England and luckily our previous horsing by England.

RoxburghHibs
27-07-2017, 08:02 PM
England are through with a win, a draw or even a one or two-goal defeat, If England lose by three or more, they will be out if Spain win. If England lose 2-0 and Spain win, England would be at worst second ahead of Portugal on overall goal difference.
Portugal are through with any win if Spain do not win. Portugal are definitely through if they win by three goals, or a two-goal margin other than 2-0. If Portugal win by one goal, they need Spain not to win. If Portugal win 2-0, they are through if Spain do not win or if Spain win 1-0. If Portugal win 2-0 and Spain win 2-1, they will be split on disciplinary points, or then on coefficient, which favours Spain. If Portugal draw, they need Spain to lose. If Portugal lose they are out.
Spain are through if they win unless Portugal beat England by a two-goal margin. If that result is 3-1, 4-2 etc, Spain cannot go through; if it is 2-0, Spain would be out if they won 1-0, or if they win 2-1 and are behind Portugal on disciplinary rankings. Spain are through with a draw if Portugal do not win. If Spain lose by one goal, they are through if Portugal lose. If Spain lose by two goals or more, they are out.
Scotland must win by two goals and hope Portugal lose.

Simples. :greengrin

Emmmm so why is a 2-0 win going to put us above Portugal if they get beat?

RoxburghHibs
27-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Goal difference between teams tied 2nd-4th, completely excluding England and luckily our previous horsing by England.

Ahhhhhhh :thumbsup:

iwasthere1972
27-07-2017, 08:04 PM
Emmmm so why is a 2-0 win going to put us above Portugal if they get beat?

No idea. I only copy and paste. No read. :wink:

Glory Lurker
27-07-2017, 08:19 PM
It doesn't look like we know another goal would put us through. Cannae be right?

blackpoolhibs
27-07-2017, 08:47 PM
Does anyone really care?

G B Young
27-07-2017, 08:55 PM
Too little too late...heroic failure...did us proud etc...yada yada...yawn. Same old story when it comes to Scotland football teams.

Golden Bear
27-07-2017, 09:02 PM
Sorry, that was a gallant but dreadful display from our girls. They did however manage to grind a 1-0 victory from the jaws of a six goal defeat.

Brightside
28-07-2017, 07:37 AM
Thankfully there is now a changing of the guard. The team is full of players who should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. Shelly will bring more of the youth in now. Players that are faster, fitter and hungrier. Goalkeeper will remain a problem as Scotland don't have any standouts.

WeeRussell
28-07-2017, 07:52 AM
Too little too late...heroic failure...did us proud etc...yada yada...yawn. Same old story when it comes to Scotland football teams.

Haha I like that you don't even try and be discreet about your trolling anymore.

SRHibs
28-07-2017, 08:00 AM
Tin helmet on ....... no wonder there's next to no exposure on TV for woman's football. This is pi$$ poor. Geez the goalkeepers are absolutely hopeless ( the Scotland one has over 200 caps and can't even friggin' catch the ball) and just as the Scotland goalie is booked for a reckless journey outside her penalty box, the Spanish one does the same. If it wasn't a Scottish team playing, then the TV would be off.

Anyway..... 75% of the possession to Spain....... 1-0 to Scotland

You just have to take it as its own sport and try not to compare it to the men's game. It's night and day. It's likely that most highschool boys teams would win the women's World Cup if participating.

SirDavidsNapper
28-07-2017, 09:43 AM
There was a woman's football tournament on?

G B Young
28-07-2017, 09:48 AM
Slightly off topic but I spotted this on the BBC Scotland website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-40743632

I recall as a kid actually thinking we could win the tournament so I guess there must have been enough genuine belief for the Royal Mail to take our chances seriously. The stamps are pretty awful mind you.

No real surprise to learn they've never produced any similar stamps given how long it is since Scotland even qualified for a major tournament.

WeeRussell
28-07-2017, 09:55 AM
Slightly off topic but I spotted this on the BBC Scotland website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-40743632

I recall as a kid actually thinking we could win the tournament so I guess there must have been enough genuine belief for the Royal Mail to take our chances seriously. The stamps are pretty awful mind you.

No real surprise to learn they've never produced any similar stamps given how long it is since Scotland even qualified for a major tournament.

Ah come on - it's never too off topic to have a dig at Scotland.

MB62
28-07-2017, 10:18 AM
Thankfully there is now a changing of the guard. The team is full of players who should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. Shelly will bring more of the youth in now. Players that are faster, fitter and hungrier. Goalkeeper will remain a problem as Scotland don't have any standouts.

Did we not have about 07 players out through injury and missed the tournament?

I thought the girls did very well considering, and it's a step in the right direction from them.

Brightside
28-07-2017, 10:34 AM
Did we not have about 07 players out through injury and missed the tournament?

I thought the girls did very well considering, and it's a step in the right direction from them.

we had 2 out that would probably have made the team. Kim Little being the main one. But the problem was Anna just wont play youth before experience...its a joke that so many of the team are on over 100+ caps. The defence had about 800 caps between them!

JimBHibees
28-07-2017, 10:57 AM
Thankfully there is now a changing of the guard. The team is full of players who should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. Shelly will bring more of the youth in now. Players that are faster, fitter and hungrier. Goalkeeper will remain a problem as Scotland don't have any standouts.

Personally thought they did well beating a country the size of Spain is surely an achievement and we really should have beaten Portugal also. Were unlucky with the players out injured especially Little who is an excellent footballer.

MB62
28-07-2017, 01:56 PM
we had 2 out that would probably have made the team. Kim Little being the main one. But the problem was Anna just wont play youth before experience...its a joke that so many of the team are on over 100+ caps. The defence had about 800 caps between them!

Are the 'young team' better than the 'auld yins'?

Phil MaGlass
28-07-2017, 06:49 PM
Cannae believe ahm gonnae say this, but, the wimmens game has been pretty entertaining, a few cracking goals tae. Watchin Sweden Italy the noo, its 1-1.