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Navids Numpties
14-07-2017, 05:55 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on this super-fight? No matter who wins there will be a rematch and probably a trilogy.
HibernianJK
14-07-2017, 11:28 PM
Really can't wait for this. So disappointing the the build up is being overshadowed by the Mayweather Mcgregor farce.
I have a feeling Canelo will win this. He looked so sharp and powerful in his last fight whereas GGG wasn't as good as he's been previously.
Should be absolutely brilliant as the power both have is ridiculous and could KO each other at any time.
More excited than I was for AJ Klitschko and if it's close to that fight we're in for a treat.
GGG for me. Should be a cracking contest either way. Just wish it had happened a few years ago
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Since90+2
15-07-2017, 07:07 PM
Tough fight to call. Canelo is probably in his prime whereas GGG is maybe just past his best.
Both of them have granite chins so I can't see a stoppage and I reckon Canelo might get it on points (even if it should be given to GGG).
K-Zazu
15-07-2017, 09:14 PM
If Canelo wins there won't be a rematch no danger
makaveli1875
16-07-2017, 08:47 PM
GGG will beat the **** out of Canelo
Navids Numpties
11-09-2017, 08:57 PM
Less than one week...
HibernianJK
11-09-2017, 09:10 PM
Less than one week...
Starting to get proper excited for this. Opinion seems to be split and can see it developing into a slug fest. Canelo's hand speed might give the slightly aging GGG some problems as the fight goes on but GGG will be sure to find Alvarez' chin with a few so be good to see how Canelo takes them.
Not been this excited for a fight in a long time.
Mon Dieu4
11-09-2017, 09:20 PM
It's a proper 50/50 fight, I've a sneaking feeling that Canelo will win this, think he's been pretty canny in his timing of this, GGG didn't look his usual self against Jacobs, I know Jacobs piled on the extra weight but maybe age is catching up with GGG, a win either way won't surprise me and I genuinely don't care which of them win, just want to see a classic
Pretty Boy
12-09-2017, 12:39 PM
It's Canelos defining fight imo. If he wins he becomes the superstar of the sport, loses and it's a long road back. I really can't make my mind up about him. He was totally outclassed by Mayweather (he was lucky if he won a round and how it was a split decision is beyond me) then very luck to get the win against Ersianday Lara a couple of fights later. He beat Cotto well and has done what should be expected of him since that fight.
I think the timing of the contest suits Alvarez just a little bit more and can see him taking it on points, probably with at least one controversial card. If it does turn into a centre of the ring slugfest (which Canelos style can tempt) then it could be very interesting.
makaveli1875
13-09-2017, 12:11 PM
Canelo has spent the last few years fighting smaller guys at catchweights , then finally fighting a guy his own size that was clearly drained coming down to canelos weight in chavez.
He's going to get a shock when he runs into the brute force of GGG fighting at his natural weight . GGG has been waiting his entire career for a fight of this magnitude and i think he's going to come in motivated and hungry for the KO . He has taken punches from guys with canelo like power but canelo aint ever been hit as hard as he will be from GGG
Im gonna be in Vegas on fight night , pity i dont have a ticket though
Benny Brazil
15-09-2017, 09:03 PM
It's Canelos defining fight imo. If he wins he becomes the superstar of the sport, loses and it's a long road back. I really can't make my mind up about him. He was totally outclassed by Mayweather (he was lucky if he won a round and how it was a split decision is beyond me) then very luck to get the win against Ersianday Lara a couple of fights later. He beat Cotto well and has done what should be expected of him since that fight.
I think the timing of the contest suits Alvarez just a little bit more and can see him taking it on points, probably with at least one controversial card. If it does turn into a centre of the ring slugfest (which Canelos style can tempt) then it could be very interesting.
In my view if it does turn in to a slugfest then it's GGG's fight. He has the power of punch to cause real damage - am not sure Canelo has the same power to hurt GGG.
Really looking forward to this one - should be a classic.
Pretty Boy
15-09-2017, 09:19 PM
In my view if it does turn in to a slugfest then it's GGG's fight. He has the power of punch to cause real damage - am not sure Canelo has the same power to hurt GGG.
Really looking forward to this one - should be a classic.
Wouldn't disagree with that.
Canelo dodged this fight long enough waiting for GGG to age. It's the fight many of us have been waiting on for a few years. Hopefully GGG wins and if canelo does people will say it's a fight he should have won given GGG's age, IMO. I like canelo but GGG more [emoji106]
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lord bunberry
16-09-2017, 09:27 PM
What time is it due to start? I'm struggling to stay awake due to my lack of divine intervention. I'm thinking of setting my alarm.
Pretty Boy
16-09-2017, 09:31 PM
Callum Smith fight on ItV4 at the moment. He's looking good.
Pretty Boy
16-09-2017, 09:34 PM
Callum Smith fight on ItV4 at the moment. He's looking good.
After saying that he just took a bit of a beating in the 5th and is bleeding heavily from the nose now. He was eating left hands and looked very uncomfortable towards the end of the round.
lord bunberry
16-09-2017, 09:53 PM
After saying that he just took a bit of a beating in the 5th and is bleeding heavily from the nose now. He was eating left hands and looked very uncomfortable towards the end of the round.
Smith seems to have weathered the storm, but it's debatable how far he can go based on this performance.
Pretty Boy
16-09-2017, 09:57 PM
Smith seems to have weathered the storm, but it's debatable how far he can go based on this performance.
Certainly not been at his best tonight. That knockdown should seal it though.
lord bunberry
16-09-2017, 09:59 PM
Certainly not been at his best tonight. That knockdown should seal it though.
It wouldn't surprise me to see a knockdown in the final round.
lord bunberry
16-09-2017, 10:03 PM
That touch of gloves in the last round was something I've never seen before. Well done both fighters.
Pretty Boy
16-09-2017, 10:07 PM
Smith wins by UD.
Billy Joe Saunders next, about 40 minutes away. BT Sport.
yonder1875
17-09-2017, 02:40 AM
Not long now.
Navids Numpties
17-09-2017, 02:46 AM
Hour and 20 roughly to go... buzzing
yonder1875
17-09-2017, 02:54 AM
Hour and 20 roughly to go... buzzing
It's about to start lad.
Navids Numpties
17-09-2017, 03:09 AM
It's about to start lad.
So I see I thought it'd be a typical USA 5am start.
sambajustice
17-09-2017, 04:00 AM
draw
Mon Dieu4
17-09-2017, 04:02 AM
No danger was that a draw, GGG won that by a few rounds, the judge that gave it by 8 to Canelo wants taken out the back and shot
yonder1875
17-09-2017, 04:04 AM
Absolute farce from judge number 1, 118-110 to Canelo. GGG won that 8-4 for me - Las Vegas loves a draw.
Speedy
17-09-2017, 04:07 AM
Draw was a fair result for me. GGG more aggressive but left himself open for bigger hits.
Nobody really troubled throughout, draw and a rematch.
Haymaker
17-09-2017, 04:09 AM
Absolute farce from judge number 1, 118-110 to Canelo. GGG won that 8-4 for me - Las Vegas loves a draw.
Of course they do, loads of build up and another bumper crowd. $$$$
Pretty Boy
17-09-2017, 05:10 AM
GGG won that by a couple.
No way is Alvarez losing on points on a Golden Boy card in Vegas though. If there's a rematch Golovkin needs a KO.
Mantis Toboggan
17-09-2017, 05:32 AM
The 118 to 110 scorecard is absolutely insane but not unexpected. A level playing field was too much to ask for as usual.
At least it was a good fight.
easty
17-09-2017, 09:36 AM
Be good to see a rematch, but GGG will be feeling very hard done by today.
Canelo did a lot of things well but overall he was second best in he fight.
lord bunberry
17-09-2017, 10:57 AM
Just watched it. I can't believe the judges gave that as a draw. This was billed as the fight to save boxing, but its ended up in another farcical decision. Golovkin won that by at least three rounds imo.
Money talks in boxing, especially when Goldenboy is promoting.
The judge that gave it to Cannelo should never be allowed into a boxing arena again.
nellio
17-09-2017, 03:34 PM
Draw was a fair result for me. GGG more aggressive but left himself open for bigger hits.
Nobody really troubled throughout, draw and a rematch.
Funny how opinions differ. In my opinion there was no way that was a draw. GGG clearly won the fight. How the one judge had it so much in Camel's favour was unbelievable.
lord bunberry
17-09-2017, 03:43 PM
Funny how opinions differ. In my opinion there was no way that was a draw. GGG clearly won the fight. How the one judge had it so much in Camel's favour was unbelievable.
That gave me the right hump :greengrin
GreenNWhiteArmy
17-09-2017, 10:21 PM
Draw was a fair result for me. GGG more aggressive but left himself open for bigger hits.
Nobody really troubled throughout, draw and a rematch.
Yeah I'd agree. I only caught the highlights this afternoon after I'd seen the result but split it 4-2 in the first half to Canelo then the same for GGG in the 2nd.
If anything, GGG won by a round. It certainly wasn't a farcical outcome like I've seen on social media. That 118-110 scorecard though 😂😂😂
GreenLake
18-09-2017, 12:09 AM
Nobody was bothered, it's EMMYs weekend.
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GreenLake
18-09-2017, 12:12 AM
Maybe they will give this fight the farce of the year award for judging. [emoji23] [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/92cc31b71c8b25110f17110c2a8bed29.jpg
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yonder1875
18-09-2017, 11:04 AM
Yeah I'd agree. I only caught the highlights this afternoon after I'd seen the result but split it 4-2 in the first half to Canelo then the same for GGG in the 2nd.
If anything, GGG won by a round. It certainly wasn't a farcical outcome like I've seen on social media. That 118-110 scorecard though 😂😂😂
It wasn't a farcical outcome? Yes it was. GGG was the clear winner of that fight, his defining fight in his career and he has been robbed. It's wrong.
It was officially scored as a draw, seen near enough everyone say that GGG won it, not seen a single person say Canelo should have been given the decision.
Pretty Boy
18-09-2017, 07:45 PM
It wasn't a farcical outcome? Yes it was. GGG was the clear winner of that fight, his defining fight in his career and he has been robbed. It's wrong.
It was officially scored as a draw, seen near enough everyone say that GGG won it, not seen a single person say Canelo should have been given the decision.
I think if all 3 judges had scored it a draw or to Canelo by a round or 2 people would have just about seen the case for it. The 118-110 scorecard turns the whole things farcical though, that suggests the judge in question saw a fight in which GGG only won 2 rounds. No one watching that fight should have been able to only give him 2 rounds let alone a judge who gets a lot of blockbuster fights.
Danderhall Hibs
18-09-2017, 07:57 PM
I think if all 3 judges had scored it a draw or to Canelo by a round or 2 people would have just about seen the case for it. The 118-110 scorecard turns the whole things farcical though, that suggests the judge in question saw a fight in which GGG only won 2 rounds. No one watching that fight should have been able to only give him 2 rounds let alone a judge who gets a lot of blockbuster fights.
I assume that (some) judges work their way up to a level where they can be offered a big brown envelope? Once they take it they're then "retired" and never used again?
It seems to happen fairly regularly.
yonder1875
18-09-2017, 09:32 PM
I think if all 3 judges had scored it a draw or to Canelo by a round or 2 people would have just about seen the case for it. The 118-110 scorecard turns the whole things farcical though, that suggests the judge in question saw a fight in which GGG only won 2 rounds. No one watching that fight should have been able to only give him 2 rounds let alone a judge who gets a lot of blockbuster fights.
I don't think many people would have seen a case for it if all three judges scored it in Canelo's favour, that also would have been farcical. I really do feel triple G was the clear winner of that fight.
Speedy
19-09-2017, 06:48 AM
It wasn't a farcical outcome? Yes it was. GGG was the clear winner of that fight, his defining fight in his career and he has been robbed. It's wrong.
It was officially scored as a draw, seen near enough everyone say that GGG won it, not seen a single person say Canelo should have been given the decision.
The 118-110 card was a joke. If it had been 115-113 or 114-114 then few people would argue.
The other two were 114-114, 113-115 which suggests it was close enough. Nobody was a clear winner imo.
The_Exile
20-09-2017, 01:35 PM
I've watched it twice and scored it a draw both times. 118-110 is almost comical, how an actual judge can see the fight that way is beyond a joke and they should never get another gig IMO.
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