Queensferry Crossing Experience

[H18 SFR]

Did anyone get it in the ballot? All my friends have had emails to say they didn't get it, I've still not heard. When I login it says you're entered in the ballot still.

[BroxburnHibee]

I thought it might take a few days. Assumed with over 50000 applications you wouldn't find out right away.

[H18 SFR]

I thought it might take a few days. Assumed with over 50000 applications you wouldn't find out right away.

I ready today over 250k applications.

[BroxburnHibee]

I ready today over 250k applications.

I think that's the total number of people in the applications. My application was for 3 people for instance.

I read it was something like 51000 applications.

[Green Man]

Glad to see I'm not the only one waiting for an email.

[ronaldo7]

I got my text and e mail today. Success for me plus 3 others. Trouble is, it's 9.30 on Sunday morning.

[H18 SFR]

I think that's the total number of people in the applications. My application was for 3 people for instance.

I read it was something like 51000 applications.

Got you!

[speedy_gonzales]

It was a no for me,,,, unfortunate as I've walked the other two!

[Moulin Yarns]

Rejected email but on a reserve list.

[lord bunberry]

Why not just wait and go over in your car? It will be much more civilised and comfortable.

[Hibs Class]

No email for me yet. Online account just says I'll get an email at some point.

[frazeHFC]

I got accepted + 4. Although our house backs on to the field it's being constructed in so we were told we would get a spot.

[RyeSloan]

Obviously I'm missing something? [emoji12]

1) Will you not be able to walk over the bridge any other time like you can with the existing bridge?

2) Why do 250,000 people want to walk across a bridge?

[PeeJay]

Obviously I'm missing something? [emoji12]

1) Will you not be able to walk over the bridge any other time like you can with the existing bridge?

2) Why do 250,000 people want to walk across a bridge?

Probably because they have the opportunity to walk up the middle of the road while crossing over without having to worry about traffic? Once opened there will be no pedestrian walkway - aparently it is classified as part of the motorway

[BroxburnHibee]

Didn't get in.

[Hibs Class]

Got my rejection email this morning.

[RyeSloan]

Probably because they have the opportunity to walk up the middle of the road while crossing over without having to worry about traffic? Once opened there will be no pedestrian walkway - aparently it is classified as part of the motorway

Fair enough...not sure I'm anywhere near getting the excitement to be honest but clearly nearly a quarter of a million folk ken what's going on so who am I to question their logic [emoji23]

[oldbutdim]

Rejected email but on a reserve list.

Same.

[lapsedhibee]

not sure I'm anywhere near getting the excitement to be honest

+1. Would be more exciting to walk across with traffic, in a will-I-get-to-the-other-side-without-being-run-over/arrested-for-being-a-terrorist? sort of way.

[JeMeSouviens]

Why not just wait and go over in your car? It will be much more civilised and comfortable.

It opens for traffic for 3 days before they close it for the walkers.

[ColinNish]

It opens for traffic for 3 days before they close it for the walkers.

Yeah, can't really get my head round that. Anyone know the reason for it?

[Allant1981]

got an email saying unsuccessful, the wee man was quite excited as well

[Allant1981]

It opens for traffic for 3 days before they close it for the walkers.

thought it was opening after people walked over?

[ColinNish]

thought it was opening after people walked over?

Nope. Open the Thursday and Friday, closed Saturday and Sunday, open again on the Monday. Bit nuts if you ask me.
Bet it'll be something to do with them being able to say it opened in August.

[Loopz]

Nope. Open the Thursday and Friday, closed Saturday and Sunday, open again on the Monday. Bit nuts if you ask me.
Bet it'll be something to do with them being able to say it opened in August.

Me +3 confirmed yesterday.

[frazeHFC]

Thank god the speed limit is going to be 70, only realised that today.

[ColinNish]

Thank god the speed limit is going to be 70, only realised that today.

As opposed to?

[Mr White]

As opposed to?

It's 50 on the kingston bridge on the M8.

[lord bunberry]

It's 50 on the kingston bridge on the M8.

The old bridge when fully open was 60.

[Mr White]

The old bridge when fully open was 60.

Was it? I thought it was 50 too or was that a relatively recent change? Presumably the wind break measures and the fact the motorway now starts south of the Forth are the reasons behind the higher speed limit on the new bridge?

[Pete]

The old bridge when fully open was 60.

I think it was 50 but I can't remember as these stupid average speed cameras have been up for so long.

I doubt the limit on the new one will be 70. 50 is fair enough.

[ColinNish]

The old bridge when fully open was 60.

It wasn't, it Was 50.

[BroxburnHibee]

Thank god the speed limit is going to be 70, only realised that today.

I very much doubt it.

It will be a motorway but limit will be 50.

[frazeHFC]

I'm sure the original bridge was 50, but it's been 40 for ages now. New one is "understood" to be 70 according to the BBC. I'm guessing the design with the wind shields and continuous surface allows this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-40340139

"The speed limit will initially be 40mph but it is understood the new crossing will become a motorway with a 70mph speed limit in September."

A Q&A by Transport Scotland also states 70 mph.

[lord bunberry]

Was it? I thought it was 50 too or was that a relatively recent change? Presumably the wind break measures and the fact the motorway now starts south of the Forth are the reasons behind the higher speed limit on the new bridge?
You're right it was. I don't know where I got 60mph. In my defence I've probably only been over it a few hundred times :greengrin

[Green Man]

I didn't get a space. I'm not particularly bothered as I imagine it will be a bit of a nightmare getting to wherever the Park and ride is, getting bussed along then getting home afterwards.

[lucky]

Probably because they have the opportunity to walk up the middle of the road while crossing over without having to worry about traffic? Once opened there will be no pedestrian walkway - aparently it is classified as part of the motorway

We've got threads elsewhere on this forum complaining about people walking in the roads. Personally can't see the attraction the view won't be any different to the Forth bridge

[oldbutdim]

You're right it was. I don't know where I got 60mph. In my defence I've probably only been over it a few hundred times :greengrin

I was convinced it was 60mph too.

That didn't cut any ice with the cops in the 'undercover' car following me who charged me with speeding at 60mph.

:rolleyes:

[PeeJay]

We've got threads elsewhere on this forum complaining about people walking in the roads. Personally can't see the attraction the view won't be any different to the Forth bridge

Walking on this road on this particular occasion is probably safe enough I would imagine. Think the view will be slightly different from the one when on the Forth Bridge too - you'll be able to see the Forth Bridge for a start ... :greengrin

[CapitalGreen]

We've got threads elsewhere on this forum complaining about people walking in the roads. Personally can't see the attraction the view won't be any different to the Forth bridge

A close up view of one of the greatest engineering projects completed in this country.

[lucky]

Walking on this road on this particular occasion is probably safe enough I would imagine. Think the view will be slightly different from the one when on the Forth Bridge too - you'll be able to see the Forth Bridge for a start ... :greengrin

Fair point 😂

[snooky]

Gordon Effin Brown being interviewed about the QC bridge on BBC apparently.
As appropriate and popular a choice the Hearts made today.
Gordon Brown, FFS.

[ronaldo7]

Gordon Effin Brown being interviewed about the QC bridge on BBC apparently.
As appropriate and popular a choice the Hearts made today.
Gordon Brown, FFS.

We remember when they said it was Salmond's vanity project. Labour liars at it again.

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[Moulin Yarns]

A work colleague was a guest of the engineers at the weekend so I have seen some photographs taken on the bridge. I would love to have got the chance to walk across it.

[snooky]

A friend tells me that Gordon Brown is claiming it was he who scrapped the tolls on the Forth Road Bridge. That's a bridge too far, Gogs. :crazy:

[ronaldo7]

https://t.co/Z2xTDBhKxZ

[Jack]

Big hold ups on the bridge because a HGV had a blow out and didn't make it onto the hard shoulder. 50 minute delays South bound but traffic still moving! Delays beginning North bound.

I'm due to go over shortly but I think I'll have another 20 minutes in bed!

[RyeSloan]

New bridge...same old delays! Over an hour this morning and this evening.

Hopefully when the 70mph limit comes in it will help but does anyone know why the old bridge is not being used during rush hour? Gonna be one hell of an expensive bus lane otherwise!

[Billy Whizz]

New bridge...same old delays! Over an hour this morning and this evening.

Hopefully when the 70mph limit comes in it will help but does anyone know why the old bridge is not being used during rush hour? Gonna be one hell of an expensive bus lane otherwise!

I thought buses and lorries were going to use the old bridge?

[Jack]

I thought buses and lorries were going to use the old bridge?

The delayed repairs to the old bridge are being done between now and November during which time all traffic will use the new bridge at a restricted 40mph. No idea what the need is for that restriction when wee cars and big lorries and trucks safely use similar roads without restrictions!

When the old bridge is fixed it will become a pubic transport route (and emergency vehicles) and the speed restrictions will be lifted.

[RyeSloan]

The delayed repairs to the old bridge are being done between now and November during which time all traffic will use the new bridge at a restricted 40mph. No idea what the need is for that restriction when wee cars and big lorries and trucks safely use similar roads without restrictions!

When the old bridge is fixed it will become a pubic transport route (and emergency vehicles) and the speed restrictions will be lifted.

I know we should all be in raptures that we have finally built a bridge to replace one that passed it's expected volumes ages and ages ago but I'm still perplexed why the new bridge has been built only two lanes wide (yes I know it also has a hard shoulder but hard shoulders are not general traffic lanes and if it is to be used as one then they should have built it with an extra lane) and with no pedestrian access.

To now have to rely on the old bridge and the associated cost of maintaining it to enable pedestrian and cycle crossing plus the occasional bus just seems a bit bizarre to me.

Probably in a minority of one on this but hey ho.

[frazeHFC]

Queensferry can be a nightmare for traffic at the best of times but this next week is going to be brutal with visitors coming to see the bridge.

Hardly a surprise that there is delays on the first day, it will no doubt still be slow for a few more weeks.


The delayed repairs to the old bridge are being done between now and November during which time all traffic will use the new bridge at a restricted 40mph. No idea what the need is for that restriction when wee cars and big lorries and trucks safely use similar roads without restrictions!

When the old bridge is fixed it will become a pubic transport route (and emergency vehicles) and the speed restrictions will be lifted.

Well that's annoying. :boo hoo: Had read the 70mph was to come in to affect at the end of next week.

[frazeHFC]

Seen a lot of people slating the design of the bridge but I'm sure world renowned engineers will have thought up every possibility. Approx £2-3bn cheaper than was first costed, getting rid of any public access which wasn't even necessary part of that cut-back.

If they want to promote public transport then it's a great shout having the buses go over the old bridge. Bus to Fife which is always mobbed after work will get their at least 30 mins quicker than it usually does, bypassing any delays on the new bridge (which hopefully won't be as bad anyway but at rush hour there's guaranteed to be some sort of delay).






That was my civils glasses on writing that, I'll probably change my tune when I'm the one sitting in the traffic. :tee hee:

[ColinNish]

New bridge...same old delays! Over an hour this morning and this evening.

Hopefully when the 70mph limit comes in it will help but does anyone know why the old bridge is not being used during rush hour? Gonna be one hell of an expensive bus lane otherwise!

Delays were due by twats wanting to be "first over the bridge" and then they can stick up photos/videos on social media. Saddos.

[Jack]

I know we should all be in raptures that we have finally built a bridge to replace one that passed it's expected volumes ages and ages ago but I'm still perplexed why the new bridge has been built only two lanes wide (yes I know it also has a hard shoulder but hard shoulders are not general traffic lanes and if it is to be used as one then they should have built it with an extra lane) and with no pedestrian access.

To now have to rely on the old bridge and the associated cost of maintaining it to enable pedestrian and cycle crossing plus the occasional bus just seems a bit bizarre to me.

Probably in a minority of one on this but hey ho.

It's UK Government policy that replacement roads should not have more capacity than those they replace, so only 2 lanes. The lanes on the new bridge are much wider than the old and as you've noted there's a hard shoulder which in theory will cope better with breakdowns.

[Jack]

Queensferry can be a nightmare for traffic at the best of times but this next week is going to be brutal with visitors coming to see the bridge.

Hardly a surprise that there is delays on the first day, it will no doubt still be slow for a few more weeks.



Well that's annoying. :boo hoo: Had read the 70mph was to come in to affect at the end of next week.

I'll be happy to be wrong with this.

[lapsedhibee]

Anyone know if the west-side cycle/pedestrian lane on the old Road Bridge is open just now? :dunno:

[Colr]

Delays were due by twats wanting to be "first over the bridge" and then they can stick up photos/videos on social media. Saddos.

I wonder how many of them had hot footed from Parliament Green having taken selfies of themselves with Big Ben's last bongs for a few years.

In pre-social media days they would have bought the daily record and kept the 4 page commemorative pull out for the grandchildren.

Rant over!

[Jack]

Seen a lot of people slating the design of the bridge but I'm sure world renowned engineers will have thought up every possibility. Approx £2-3bn cheaper than was first costed, getting rid of any public access which wasn't even necessary part of that cut-back.

If they want to promote public transport then it's a great shout having the buses go over the old bridge. Bus to Fife which is always mobbed after work will get their at least 30 mins quicker than it usually does, bypassing any delays on the new bridge (which hopefully won't be as bad anyway but at rush hour there's guaranteed to be some sort of delay).






That was my civils glasses on writing that, I'll probably change my tune when I'm the one sitting in the traffic. :tee hee:

To be fair the first estimates were for an all singing all dancing bridge, 3 lanes as noted above not allowed, a light railway/tram line lol, pedestrian access and the likes.

The Scottish Government was faced with a dilemma when it discovered a new bridge was needed. Took the old plans and stripped out everything that was needed and were left with a bridge version of our East Stand, it does what's needed and no more.

Because it was off the UK Government script the Scottish Government was able to ignore the normal UK Government contracts and went for a style an international private contractor would have gone for. This included a penalty for being late and an agreed exchange rate on the £ which allowed costs to be kept within budget.

I found all this out when I was in a tour of the build a few months ago.

[frazeHFC]

I'll be happy to be wrong with this.

I read that ages ago, a quick Google confirms what you say about it being 40mph for a few more months.



To be fair the first estimates were for an all singing all dancing bridge, 3 lanes as noted above not allowed, a light railway/tram line lol, pedestrian access and the likes.

The Scottish Government was faced with a dilemma when it discovered a new bridge was needed. Took the old plans and stripped out everything that was needed and were left with a bridge version of our East Stand, it does what's needed and no more.

Because it was off the UK Government script the Scottish Government was able to ignore the normal UK Government contracts and went for a style an international private contractor would have gone for. This included a penalty for being late and an agreed exchange rate on the £ which allowed costs to be kept within budget.

I found all this out when I was in a tour of the build a few months ago.

Sounds interesting! Makes sense that it was designed for "what it needs and no more" when you consider how vast the cost difference is between the old and new designs. I remember having a 4th year (high school) placement at Arup in 2008 where one of the people looking after me was involved in the bridge design. Then seeing it built right outside my window over the past 5 years it feels strange that it's finally complete.

[RyeSloan]

It's UK Government policy that replacement roads should not have more capacity than those they replace, so only 2 lanes. The lanes on the new bridge are much wider than the old and as you've noted there's a hard shoulder which in theory will cope better with breakdowns.

I've seen that quoted before but I'm unsure as to what mandatory policy it relates to.

It also makes no sense when you see what they have done with the M8 or the dual carriage way plans for the A9 all of that is definitely wider than the road it is replacing. Also the road off the bridge is now 3 lanes up to the Dalgety Bay junction when it was only two before not to mention the A3 widening plans down south was in the news recently so I'm struggling with this reason.

Add in the fact the old bridge clearly had capacity issues then building 'just what was needed and no more' is even dafter as clearly a bigger bridge was what was needed

I'm delighted they have built a new bridge, I just happen to think they have made it too small and now have to rely on the old bridge for critical elements like pedestrian and cycle crossings which appears short sighted.

[derekHFC]

As of November, the old bridge will be for public transport plus taxi's and private hire vehicles.

Motorcycles up to a certain CC will be allowed on the old bridge as well as pedestrians and cyclists in the current format - although I think one side will be cyclists and the other pedestrians.

New bridge will be for the general public and commercial vehicles. This will become 70mph as of November.

If the old bridge needs to close because of high winds, the new bridge will end up three lanes each way, with the hard shoulder used for public transport.

The big issue for me, is that the problem often isn't getting over the bridge, its getting to it. Queensferry Road, Telford Road, Blackhall, etc will still be choked with traffic and like getting to the new M8, nothing will change in that respect.

Anyway, I still think we should have built a tunnel :greengrin

[Speedy]

As of November, the old bridge will be for public transport plus taxi's and private hire vehicles.

Motorcycles up to a certain CC will be allowed on the old bridge as well as pedestrians and cyclists in the current format - although I think one side will be cyclists and the other pedestrians.

New bridge will be for the general public and commercial vehicles. This will become 70mph as of November.

If the old bridge needs to close because of high winds, the new bridge will end up three lanes each way, with the hard shoulder used for public transport.

The big issue for me, is that the problem often isn't getting over the bridge, its getting to it. Queensferry Road, Telford Road, Blackhall, etc will still be choked with traffic and like getting to the new M8, nothing will change in that respect.

Anyway, I still think we should have built a tunnel :greengrin

Controversial

[Pretty Boy]

Had to drive over the new bridge.

View is pretty crap when driving as the perspex screens obscure most of the other 2 bridges. Sure it will be better for those walking as they should be able to see over. Structure itself is impressive.

[Jack]

I've seen that quoted before but I'm unsure as to what mandatory policy it relates to.

It also makes no sense when you see what they have done with the M8 or the dual carriage way plans for the A9 all of that is definitely wider than the road it is replacing. Also the road off the bridge is now 3 lanes up to the Dalgety Bay junction when it was only two before not to mention the A3 widening plans down south was in the news recently so I'm struggling with this reason.

Add in the fact the old bridge clearly had capacity issues then building 'just what was needed and no more' is even dafter as clearly a bigger bridge was what was needed

I'm delighted they have built a new bridge, I just happen to think they have made it too small and now have to rely on the old bridge for critical elements like pedestrian and cycle crossings which appears short sighted.

I agree. Just saying what our group was told by an 'official'.

[heretoday]

It's a bridge.

Get over it. :cool2:

[Billy Whizz]

Can't believe they don't have a turn off for South Queensferry, if you're coming from Newbridge, until you reach the roundabout before the new bridge
All that unnecessary traffic, that could have been able to get off the road earlier. Plus it takes another 5 mins to get into the Ferry now as well

[snooky]

It's a bridge.

Get over it. :cool2:

:aok: :top marks

[snooky]

As of November, the old bridge will be for public transport plus taxi's and private hire vehicles.

Motorcycles up to a certain CC will be allowed on the old bridge as well as pedestrians and cyclists in the current format - although I think one side will be cyclists and the other pedestrians.

New bridge will be for the general public and commercial vehicles. This will become 70mph as of November.

If the old bridge needs to close because of high winds, the new bridge will end up three lanes each way, with the hard shoulder used for public transport.

The big issue for me, is that the problem often isn't getting over the bridge, its getting to it. Queensferry Road, Telford Road, Blackhall, etc will still be choked with traffic and like getting to the new M8, nothing will change in that respect.

Anyway, I still think we should have built a tunnel :greengrin

Na, that would be boring.

[Hibrandenburg]

It's a bridge.

Get over it. :cool2:

:greengrin

[frazeHFC]

It's a bridge.

Get over it. :cool2:

:hilarious


Mum was stuck in a queue over it tonight moaning so I text her that. She didn't get it and responded angrily. :tee hee:

[ronaldo7]

Absolute state of this.

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The cringe is strong with this one.:rolleyes:

Alternatively we had a great time today going over the Bridge. All the ambassadors were fantastic, even offering to take photos for us. A great day was had by all.

The organisation was fantastic too, and security very tight.

Well done to all.

[speedy_gonzales]

Absolute state of this.

19306

The cringe is strong with this one.:rolleyes:



Someone called George Rosie said just as much during the week when the bridge opened, he went as far as to say it was an "International Bridge" paid for with Scottish money.
Technically he's right but then most major projects these days have international involvement at some point!

[jonty]

Alternatively we had a great time today going over the Bridge. All the ambassadors were fantastic, even offering to take photos for us. A great day was had by all.

The organisation was fantastic too, and security very tight.

Well done to all.
We had a similar experience - the ambassadors were chatty and helpful. Organisation was well thought out and executed.
The only delay we experienced was a brief 5 minute wait to get on the bus. (with a young child, even 30 seconds standing still can be painful :greengrin)

[snooky]

Someone called George Rosie said just as much during the week when the bridge opened, he went as far as to say it was an "International Bridge" paid for with Scottish money.
Technically he's right but then most major projects these days have international involvement at some point!

:agree: Similar to the HS2. :wink:

[High-On-Hibs]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21271331_1387524758021595_871623783159140960_n.jpg ?oh=637abc80f0742024a8de03557128fd65&oe=5A1524E6

[Beefster]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21271331_1387524758021595_871623783159140960_n.jpg ?oh=637abc80f0742024a8de03557128fd65&oe=5A1524E6

IIRC Patrick Harvie was pretty vocal about it being an SNP vanity project. He should probably get a mention if there are points to be scored.

[High-On-Hibs]

IIRC Patrick Harvie was pretty vocal about it being an SNP vanity project. He should probably get a mention if there are points to be scored.

Patrick Harvie won't be at the bridge with a big pair of scissors attempting to gain political ground on something that he was in opposition to before.

[Beefster]

Patrick Harvie won't be at the bridge with a big pair of scissors attempting to gain political ground on something that he was in opposition to before.

I'm lost. I thought the Queen opened it?

[Jack]

I'm lost. I thought the Queen opened it?

No, I opened it last Thursday!

Ok I wasn't the first over, northbound, but in my poshed accent with all the pomp I could muster I declared it open. Having not seen nor heard anyone do so previously or claim the distinction on dotnet, I was the first!

I then did something similar southbound around midday.

The bridge is/wiz open before Liz and Nicky followed somewhat later :-)

[High-On-Hibs]

I'm lost. I thought the Queen opened it?

The queen has always been the symbol of British Unionism/Nationalism and she gets rolled out whenever they want to hog credit for something they played no hand in.

[Beefster]

The queen has always been the symbol of British Unionism/Nationalism and she gets rolled out whenever they want to hog credit for something they played no hand in.

So it wasn't the Scottish Government that invited her?

[RyeSloan]

The queen has always been the symbol of British Unionism/Nationalism and she gets rolled out whenever they want to hog credit for something they played no hand in.

Who are 'they'?

And where is the examples of them hogging credit?

I suppose she pitched up unannounced, pushed Nicola out the way, grabbed the scissors and while tempted to use them for something else declared that she was going to open the bridge for the Union?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

How on earth is a bridge now being used to try and score cheap political points?

I mean its not like there are already two that habe been built in the same location or anything...

Its a cool bridge, that i think we needed and that our government has delivered.

What it had to do with nuclear submarines, the queen or anything else is beyond me.

[Just Alf]

How on earth is a bridge now being used to try and score cheap political points?

I mean its not like there are already two that habe been built in the same location or anything...

Its a cool bridge, that i think we needed and that our government has delivered.

What it had to do with nuclear submarines, the queen or anything else is beyond me.This!






Sorry for the use of the "this!" thingy but sometimes it fits perfectly! :D


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[marinello59]

How on earth is a bridge now being used to try and score cheap political points?

I mean its not like there are already two that habe been built in the same location or anything...

Its a cool bridge, that i think we needed and that our government has delivered.

What it had to do with nuclear submarines, the queen or anything else is beyond me.

It's an achievement that all Scots are taking immense pride in whether they voted Yes, No, Leave, Remain or for Boaty McBoatface. It really is a stunning new symbol for Scotland that we can all unite around.
The noises off are best ignored, they're like the miserable ****ers self righteously moaning on the sidelines at parties whilst everybody else has a good time. :greengrin

[RyeSloan]

It's an achievement that all Scots are taking immense pride in whether they voted Yes, No, Leave, Remain or for Boaty McBoatface. It really is a stunning new symbol for Scotland that we can all unite around.
The noises off are best ignored, they're like the miserable ****ers self righteously moaning on the sidelines at parties whilst everybody else has a good time. :greengrin

Dunno about immense pride but it sure as hell does look good I'll give ya that!

[McD]

The queen has always been the symbol of British Unionism/Nationalism and she gets rolled out whenever they want to hog credit for something they played no hand in.


Watch out for the men in black :rolleyes:

[McD]

It's an achievement that all Scots are taking immense pride in whether they voted Yes, No, Leave, Remain or for Boaty McBoatface. It really is a stunning new symbol for Scotland that we can all unite around.
The noises off are best ignored, they're like the miserable ****ers self righteously moaning on the sidelines at parties whilst everybody else has a good time. :greengrin


:agree:

Its a tremendous structure that serves a practical and needed purpose, it looks terrific, it adds to the historic nature of the area (as someone said earlier, we (that's all of Scotland @high on Hibs), have 3 bridges all built in separate centuries that all still serve their original purpose which to me is an amazing achievement), which came in under budget so credit where it's due to all involved from government level right down to the blokes tightening the bolts.

No point scoring needed from any side

[Green Man]

I got to walk on the bridge today with my son's school. It's an impressive structure when viewed from afar but seeing the towers up close really brought home the height of them. It's a brilliant piece of engineering and everyone involved in its construction deserves a lot of credit.

[snooky]

Just took an hour to get from the M9 and across the QC. Many thanks to all the folk who just went there to drive across it from all of us who are actually going somewhere. You made our day.
Just as an afterthought, why didn't they keep the old bridge open for the serious travellers and leave the QC for the joy of the daytripping voyeurs. Tailbacks for three mile and one perfectly good bridge unused. :crazy:

[Beefster]

Just took an hour to get from the M9 and across the QC. Many thanks to all the folk who just went there to drive across it from all of us who are actually going somewhere. You made our day.
Just as an afterthought, why didn't they keep the old bridge open for the serious travellers and leave the QC for the joy of the daytripping voyeurs. Tailbacks for three mile and one perfectly good bridge unused. :crazy:

I heard that cyclists were driving across the new bridge just to cause tailbacks. Cannae even stick to their own bridge. ****s.

[lord bunberry]

Just took an hour to get from the M9 and across the QC. Many thanks to all the folk who just went there to drive across it from all of us who are actually going somewhere. You made our day.
Just as an afterthought, why didn't they keep the old bridge open for the serious travellers and leave the QC for the joy of the daytripping voyeurs. Tailbacks for three mile and one perfectly good bridge unused. :crazy:
What a disaster area that was today.

[Billy Whizz]

What a disaster area that was today.

And it has been since it opened. They need to get the 40m limits up to 70 as soon as possible

[lord bunberry]

And it has been since it opened. They need to get the 40m limits up to 70 as soon as possible
I won't be heading over again anytime soon.

[Billy Whizz]

I won't be heading over again anytime soon.

Me neither. Thank god it's not a toll bridge!

[Glory Lurker]

Going over and back today was better than the game. She's amazing. Strange feeling, too, being in a car, crossing the Forth, and looking over at the Forth Road Bridge rather than being on it. Felt quite sentimental, thinking of the incredible job she did over the last 50-odd years.

[Sir David Gray]

The delayed repairs to the old bridge are being done between now and November during which time all traffic will use the new bridge at a restricted 40mph. No idea what the need is for that restriction when wee cars and big lorries and trucks safely use similar roads without restrictions!

When the old bridge is fixed it will become a pubic transport route (and emergency vehicles) and the speed restrictions will be lifted.

I'm pretty sure that's something very different! :greengrin

[snooky]

I'm pretty sure that's something very different! :greengrin

It was always a bit hairy driving over the old bridge.

[GreenLake]

This is quite exciting and I had no idea they were building a new bridge. Why would they need one? I don't remember jams on the old bridge but then I left in the late 70's.

New bucket list item. Ship a decent ride over and re-drive Scotland (note: remember to fill the tank).

[snooky]

The bridge 'opened' almost a week ago and has been closed to traffic for more than half of that time. They're closing it sometime today apparently for a Ford transit procession of something.
Another minority group with the world revolving around them.
Jesus, give me strength. :rolleyes:

[Hibrandenburg]

I won't be heading over again anytime soon.

A Bridge too Far?

[lord bunberry]

A Bridge too Far?
:greengrin

[heretoday]

The bridge 'opened' almost a week ago and has been closed to traffic for more than half of that time. They're closing it sometime today apparently for a Ford transit procession of something.
Another minority group with the world revolving around them.
Jesus, give me strength. :rolleyes:

You'd have thought Transits would be on the FRB since it's to be used for commercial vehicles.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Went over it on the bus yesterday at about 11am, no delays whatsoever.

[CropleyWasGod]

You'd have thought Transits would be on the FRB since it's to be used for commercial vehicles.Classic cars, Shirley?

Sic Transit in whatever....

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[Glory Lurker]

Finding the continued moaning about the new bridge very tedious. The old bridge was (slowly) falling down, for Pete' sake. Once the speed limit goes up and the sightseeing subsides, it'll be plain sailing (as it were). I trust though that the folk moaning at the moment will at that point still be moaning because I take it they have genuine transport-strategy concerns, as opposed to being SNP/ Scotland -haters?

[snooky]

Finding the continued moaning about the new bridge very tedious. The old bridge was (slowly) falling down, for Pete' sake. Once the speed limit goes up and the sightseeing subsides, it'll be plain sailing (as it were). I trust though that the folk moaning at the moment will at that point still be moaning because I take it they have genuine transport-strategy concerns, as opposed to being SNP/ Scotland -haters?

Very tedious stuck in a 3 mile queue too.

[Glory Lurker]

Very tedious stuck in a 3 mile queue too.

Aye, but there's plenty reason for that at the moment. 3 mile queues won't be a regular feature once it is fully operational.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Quite an interesting programme just finished on Ch5 about The Forth Bridge, would imagine it'll be available via catch up (Britains Greatest Bridges).

[lapsedhibee]

Quite an interesting programme just finished on Ch5 about The Forth Bridge, would imagine it'll be available via catch up (Britains Greatest Bridges).

And currently half-way through on Ch5 +1.

[lord bunberry]

Finding the continued moaning about the new bridge very tedious. The old bridge was (slowly) falling down, for Pete' sake. Once the speed limit goes up and the sightseeing subsides, it'll be plain sailing (as it were). I trust though that the folk moaning at the moment will at that point still be moaning because I take it they have genuine transport-strategy concerns, as opposed to being SNP/ Scotland -haters?
People aren't moaning about the bridge itself. It's the sightseers causing huge tailbacks that the problem.

[Glory Lurker]

People aren't moaning about the bridge itself. It's the sightseers causing huge tailbacks that the problem.

Some are, unfortunately, but agree 100% that it's folk -quite understandably given how ace it is - going just to have a shot of the bridge that are causing the problems.

[RyeSloan]

Some are, unfortunately, but agree 100% that it's folk -quite understandably given how ace it is - going just to have a shot of the bridge that are causing the problems.

Is this actually true though?

Of the thousands of cars stuck in the now daily 60min queues how many are there just to drive across the thing? Seems improbable to me that they make up any significant volume. That said there does seem to be some sort of random human actions going on as the volume of traffic actually crossing the bridge at any one time is really low...I've been across it 4 times now and each time it's been a huge queue to get on then massive spaces between the cars when on the bridge. There was even one twonk yesterday driving at 20mph as they went across.

Also it's very odd that the M9 spur is backed up so far yet today and yesterday the A90 was clear all the way to the merge point of these two.

I suppose we won't know until November when they finally increase the speed limit but none the less it's hardly an auspicious start for such a vaunted piece of infrastructure.

[marinello59]

Finding the continued moaning about the new bridge very tedious. The old bridge was (slowly) falling down, for Pete' sake. Once the speed limit goes up and the sightseeing subsides, it'll be plain sailing (as it were). I trust though that the folk moaning at the moment will at that point still be moaning because I take it they have genuine transport-strategy concerns, as opposed to being SNP/ Scotland -haters?


Criticising the SNP doesn't make you a Scotland hater.

[ColinNish]

Is this actually true though?

Of the thousands of cars stuck in the now daily 60min queues how many are there just to drive across the thing? Seems improbable to me that they make up any significant volume. That said there does seem to be some sort of random human actions going on as the volume of traffic actually crossing the bridge at any one time is really low...I've been across it 4 times now and each time it's been a huge queue to get on then massive spaces between the cars when on the bridge. There was even one twonk yesterday driving at 20mph as they went across.

Also it's very odd that the M9 spur is backed up so far yet today and yesterday the A90 was clear all the way to the merge point of these two.

I suppose we won't know until November when they finally increase the speed limit but none the less it's hardly an auspicious start for such a vaunted piece of infrastructure.

Dude, there's been folk travelling up from England to go over the bridge. Weirdos.

Plus folk that are going for a jolly over the bridge go over it, come off at the first junction after it to go back over it, hence the congestion.

[One Day Soon]

Finding the continued moaning about the new bridge very tedious. The old bridge was (slowly) falling down, for Pete' sake. Once the speed limit goes up and the sightseeing subsides, it'll be plain sailing (as it were). I trust though that the folk moaning at the moment will at that point still be moaning because I take it they have genuine transport-strategy concerns, as opposed to being SNP/ Scotland -haters?


I'm sure the new bridge is a very nice bridge, but at the end of the day it's just a bridge.

[RyeSloan]

Dude, there's been folk travelling up from England to go over the bridge. Weirdos.

Plus folk that are going for a jolly over the bridge go over it, come off at the first junction after it to go back over it, hence the congestion.

Yeah I get that but I'm not convinced they are making up a large portion of the traffic or anywhere near enough to cause the congestion.

Anyhoo as I said we won't know until November and as a frequent user of the crossing I'm damn well hoping that it improves significantly!!

[Jack]

Yeah I get that but I'm not convinced they are making up a large portion of the traffic or anywhere near enough to cause the congestion.

Anyhoo as I said we won't know until November and as a frequent user of the crossing I'm damn well hoping that it improves significantly!!

I read after the first day they expected 80,000 vehicles which would have included sightseeing types, the actual figure was 10,000 more!

Many years ago I was speaking with a traffic planner type person. One thing I remember from that was the difference between free flowing traffic and gridlock was a difference of just 3% volume.

[Beefster]

Criticising the SNP doesn't make you a Scotland hater.

Even criticising the new bridge doesn't make you a Scotland hater!

[Glory Lurker]

Criticising the SNP doesn't make you a Scotland hater.

Never said it did. The oblique is in there for a reason.

[Glory Lurker]

Even criticising the new bridge doesn't make you a Scotland hater!

Again, didn't say it did. If folk have transport strategy reasons, then fair enough. Confident all will come out okay in the end, though.

[RyeSloan]

I read after the first day they expected 80,000 vehicles which would have included sightseeing types, the actual figure was 10,000 more!

Many years ago I was speaking with a traffic planner type person. One thing I remember from that was the difference between free flowing traffic and gridlock was a difference of just 3% volume.

Well nothing is as queer as folk I suppose...warned of serous delays they still get in their car and sit for an hour in traffic just to drive over a bridge.

We'll just have to wait and see I suppose and as I said I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the damn thing improves.

[frazeHFC]

On the south side having a motorway and a dual carriageway join and then instantly drop to 40mph, it's obvious there's going to be delays. Once it's 70 it will be fine or at least much better.

Some people (social media not meaning here) love a moan and most of the time without thinking it through.

[speedy_gonzales]

On the south side having a motorway and a dual carriageway join and then instantly drop to 40mph, it's obvious there's going to be delays. Once it's 70 it will be fine or at least much better.

Some people (social media not meaning here) love a moan and most of the time without thinking it through.
But is that not what we had whilst the new bridge was being built, and with no significant queues?
There's certainly a lot more "tourist" traffic but there's also the suggestion that the road layout (although temporary) is adding to the congestion.

[speedy_gonzales]

Many years ago I was speaking with a traffic planner type person. One thing I remember from that was the difference between free flowing traffic and gridlock was a difference of just 3% volume.
Interesting stat if correct, just shows how difficult it is to manage new road layouts, junctions etc.

[snooky]

I read after the first day they expected 80,000 vehicles which would have included sightseeing types, the actual figure was 10,000 more!

Many years ago I was speaking with a traffic planner type person. One thing I remember from that was the difference between free flowing traffic and gridlock was a difference of just 3% volume.

Or one asshole.

[jonty]

But is that not what we had whilst the new bridge was being built, and with no significant queues?
There's certainly a lot more "tourist" traffic but there's also the suggestion that the road layout (although temporary) is adding to the congestion.

every morning there would be queues back to admiralty (on a good day) or halbeath (on a bad day). these wont disappear just because theres a new bridge or speeds get back up to 70mph.
And by queues, i mean slow moving traffic. 15 minute delays would be the norm.
Same going home at night.

They should experiment and make the whole thing a 40. that'll mess up a few clutches :devil:

The only thing the new bridge should help with is broken down vehicles (hard shoulder if it can be used) and less closures due to high winds. It'll do nothing for volume of traffic, IMO.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

People always find something to moan about.

However i did think that not using the new bridge to increase current capacity significantly (either for roads or room for trains / trams) was a mistake, given its lifespan is circa one hundred years.

[speedy_gonzales]

every morning there would be queues back to admiralty (on a good day) or halbeath (on a bad day). these wont disappear just because theres a new bridge or speeds get back up to 70mph.
And by queues, i mean slow moving traffic. 15 minute delays would be the norm.
Same going home at night.
Aye, I'm fairly familiar with the road bridge delays but I was questioning FrazeHFC's suggestion the merging of roads prior to the bridge going North was the issue


On the south side having a motorway and a dual carriageway join and then instantly drop to 40mph, it's obvious there's going to be delays.

That's been the case since the M9 link was built and the road speed (& average cameras) was reduced to prevent accidents with drivers rubber necking to observe the advancement of the new/replacement road bridge.
There's definitely MUCH more congestion and queues (miles of) just now, whether it's this 3% stat causing it (infrastructure tourism) or lane design I'm sure it'll all come good!

[ColinNish]

every morning there would be queues back to admiralty (on a good day) or halbeath (on a bad day). these wont disappear just because theres a new bridge or speeds get back up to 70mph.
And by queues, i mean slow moving traffic. 15 minute delays would be the norm.
Same going home at night.

They should experiment and make the whole thing a 40. that'll mess up a few clutches :devil:

The only thing the new bridge should help with is broken down vehicles (hard shoulder if it can be used) and less closures due to high winds. It'll do nothing for volume of traffic, IMO.

Hurrah! Someone with something sensible to say! 👏👏👏

[stoneyburn hibs]

No issues heading to Perth and back this morning, pleasantly surprised.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I was driving home yesterday after visiting my mum. There was some stupid cow driving at 20mph over the bridge taking selfies!!! Unreal how many ********s are going over just for a jolly and going straight back over.

[Future17]

I was driving home yesterday after visiting my mum. There was some stupid cow driving at 20mph over the bridge taking selfies!!! Unreal how many ********s are going over just for a jolly and going straight back over.

You should have taken her reg and reported her...particularly as there will be camera footage of her on the bridge.

[bigwheel]

You should have taken her reg and reported her...particularly as there will be camera footage of her on the bridge.


who do you think he is ..Lee Wallace?? :wink:

[Future17]

who do you think he is ..Lee Wallace?? :wink:

If he were Lee Wallace the story would have been about her ramming his car off the edge of the bridge whilst snorting lines from a copy of Mein Kampf.

[One Day Soon]

I was driving home yesterday after visiting my mum. There was some stupid cow driving at 20mph over the bridge taking selfies!!! Unreal how many ********s are going over just for a jolly and going straight back over.

What is wrong with people?

It's. Just. A. Bridge.

[frazeHFC]

They are planning to build houses between queensferry and the new motorway. This is fine, but they are then planning to close the road/roundabout by mcdonalds. This will mean all queensferry traffic going through queensferry itself, rather than going along the top road, and heavily increase traffic outside Echline primary school. Absolute joke if they do that, dangerous road as it is never mind increasing the volume of traffic. Petition people been round our house today against it. Can see a huge backlash.

[ronaldo7]

What is wrong with people?

It's. Just. A. Bridge.

One that wouldn't have been built under your lot.

[One Day Soon]

One that wouldn't have been built under your lot.


a) I don't have a 'lot'. That's why I'm critical of all parties rather than having to put out Pravda-speak for just one.

b) It's just a bridge.

[ronaldo7]

a) I don't have a 'lot'. That's why I'm critical of all parties rather than having to put out Pravda-speak for just one.

b) It's just a bridge.

As I said, your lot would have sent the money back. Brit nat stylee.

[weecounty hibby]

What is wrong with people?

It's. Just. A. Bridge.

That's like saying Big Ben is just a clock. The new bridge is spectacular and a fabulous piece of engineering. It is a modern, cutting edge design and something we should be proud of in Scotland. It adds to the already special and iconic setting of the rail and 1st road bridge over the Firth of Forth. I am an engineer so may be a bit biased but I think it is very very special

[Beefster]

That's like saying Big Ben is just a clock. The new bridge is spectacular and a fabulous piece of engineering. It is a modern, cutting edge design and something we should be proud of in Scotland. It adds to the already special and iconic setting of the rail and 1st road bridge over the Firth of Forth. I am an engineer so may be a bit biased but I think it is very very special

Big Ben is actually just a bell.

Yours etc
A. Pedant

[snooky]

Big Ben is actually just a bell.

Yours etc
A. Pedant

Haud yer tongue. :wink:

[One Day Soon]

As I said, your lot would have sent the money back. Brit nat stylee.

There are no allied tanks in Baghdad.

[lapsedhibee]

It is a modern, cutting edge design and something we should be proud of in Scotland.

Obviously it's a modern design, innit. It's not as if anyone's going to spend multisquillions erecting a structure that's 40 or 50 years out of date!

[grunt]

Obviously it's a modern design, innit. It's not as if anyone's going to spend multisquillions erecting a structure that's 40 or 50 years out of date!

Haha! I see what you're thinking! [emoji3]


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[Moulin Yarns]

I crossed a bridge last week, it went from mainland Scotland to 'not an island' the Isle of Skye. Just like the Queensferry crossing, it looks better from a distance, when you are not actually on it. IMHO

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Obviously it's a modern design, innit. It's not as if anyone's going to spend multisquillions erecting a structure that's 40 or 50 years out of date!

😁

[One Day Soon]

Had to cross the bridge to Fife yesterday for the first time. Went over at 1.45 - choked. Came back at 6 - even more choked.

Something is seriously wrong there, whether its the ludicrous 40mph average speed limit or something else it shouldn't be bumper to bumper like that. Fife in-laws spitting tacks about it.

I do not understand why both bridges couldn't have been left fully open for the first six months.

[derekHFC]

I do not understand why both bridges couldn't have been left fully open for the first six months.

The road network on the north side didn't allow it and with the promise of it being open in August 2017, it wasn't possible.

[snooky]

The road network on the north side didn't allow it and with the promise of it being open in August 2017, it wasn't possible.

It was nose to tail this morning heading south at 6.45am. :sairhead:
They have the technology to build this fantastic bridge but can't impliment a temporary network system for a couple of months till things settle down? :confused:

[One Day Soon]

It was nose to tail this morning heading south at 6.45am. :sairhead:
They have the technology to build this fantastic bridge but can't impliment a temporary network system for a couple of months till things settle down? :confused:


Well that can't be due to bridge visitors at 6.45 am on a monday morning surely?

The 40mph limit - and the distance it lasts for - is completely nuts. Is there some other traffic management issue at work here though?

[snooky]

Well that can't be due to bridge visitors at 6.45 am on a monday morning surely?

The 40mph limit - and the distance it lasts for - is completely nuts. Is there some other traffic management issue at work here though?

It's an oxymoron. "Safety overkill"

[frazeHFC]

Wonder what the reason is for keeping it at 40mph for so long, anyone know? Having it at 70 will definitely improve the situation to some degree.

In other news the suds pond they have built outside my house for the bridge has brought a family of 4 deer to us, see them every morning and night right outside the house when I look out my window.

[snooky]

Wonder what the reason is for keeping it at 40mph for so long, anyone know? Having it at 70 will definitely improve the situation to some degree.

In other news the suds pond they have built outside my house for the bridge has brought a family of 4 deer to us, see them every morning and night right outside the house when I look out my window.

They'll be safe enough in the traffic as long as their horns work.

[snooky]

Gordon Effin Brown being interviewed about the QC bridge on BBC apparently.
As appropriate and popular a choice the Hearts made today.
Gordon Brown, FFS.

Nurse, he's escaped again!

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15565168.Gordon_Brown_warns_danger_of_Britain___39 _sleepwalking__39__into_next_financial_crisis/

[Jack]

Nurse, he's escaped again!

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15565168.Gordon_Brown_warns_danger_of_Britain___39 _sleepwalking__39__into_next_financial_crisis/

With his financial track record you'd think he'd slither into the background on such matters and say nothing.

On the other hand with him taking the UK headlong into the last crisis he's the most experienced!

[Green Man]

I was heading from Newton towards Queensferry early Saturday afternoon. Traffic was tailed back along the Newton road trying to get onto the bridge, not helped by cars coming from the A90 up to the roundabout and back onto the slip road trying to avoid a bit of the queue. It's a shambles.

[easty]

not helped by cars coming from the A90 up to the roundabout and back onto the slip road trying to avoid a bit of the queue.

We went over on Saturday early afternoon too. We did that, over the roundabout and back on, probably saved us about half an hour! Traffic was brutal.

[snooky]

We went over on Saturday early afternoon too. We did that, over the roundabout and back on, probably saved us about half an hour! Traffic was brutal.

Pity we don't have an other bridge at hand to spread the traffic flow. :rolleyes:

[snooky]

Well, it didn't take long to happen, did it?. I like the way they've tied the 'snagging' into the 'preparation-for-the-70mph-switch' ...Aye, right boys. :whistle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42136651

[speedy_gonzales]

Well, it didn't take long to happen, did it?. I like the way they've tied the 'snagging' into the 'preparation-for-the-70mph-switch' ...Aye, right boys. :whistle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42136651
When I read this story online yesterday before it was updated today,the EEN seemed to intimate that there had been an oversight with the road joints on the bridge at either end and the engineers only realised this AFTER the road was open to traffic. I'm NOT an engineer but it sounded like a loading calculation error, if so, how is that possible in this day and age of computer modelling, they built the towers taking in to consideration the curvature of the earth but miscalculated the road surface depth needed at each end,,,, sounds fishy to me!

[Pete]

This new bridge seems to be worse as far as congestion goes and it can’t be down to bridge tourists any more.

It must be the design of the approach road or slip road as the traffic always speeds up again when it actually reaches the bridge. Somebody has made a mess of something.

[RyeSloan]

This new bridge seems to be worse as far as congestion goes and it can’t be down to bridge tourists any more.

It must be the design of the approach road or slip road as the traffic always speeds up again when it actually reaches the bridge. Somebody has made a mess of something.

The approach from the Edinburgh side is perfectly fine but you are right there does seem to be a big tail of traffic then when you get on the bridge the thing is half empty...it's really strange.

The approach from the Fife side is a bit tight I would suggest and both of them have slip roads coming onto the motorway just before the bridge which can't help the traffic flow on the main approach.

I'm still convinced they should have built it 3 lanes wide but we shall await the 70mph limit and see what that does before getting the knives out [emoji12]

[speedy_gonzales]

The approach from the Edinburgh side is perfectly fine,,,,
I'm not so sure, I think the slip joining from the A904 right before the bridge is too tight and slows traffic down unnecessarily. Strangely, the old bridge approach and slip from Echline r/about suffered similar tailbacks and the pinch-point could generate queues heading back to Crammond Brig but we just dealt with it,,,,

[RyeSloan]

I'm not so sure, I think the slip joining from the A904 right before the bridge is too tight and slows traffic down unnecessarily. Strangely, the old bridge approach and slip from Echline r/about suffered similar tailbacks and the pinch-point could generate queues heading back to Crammond Brig but we just dealt with it,,,,

Not disagreeing that it's defo a contributor but I've been over the bridge on a number of occasions where that slip was basically empty and the tail back was still a reasonable size (some might suggest simply going down the left hand lane, over the roundabout and down to avoid such queues, but that might be considered bad form [emoji12])

To me it's pretty obvious that they should have moved that slip a good distance away and have it coming onto a 3 lane motorway taking traffic over a 3 lane bridge....considering it is such a funnel for so much traffic it seems a no brainier to build one that was bigger, wider and with way better access than the one from the 60's. It's better for sure but should have been significantly better than that [emoji13]

[snooky]

I read somewhere at the weekend that some of the plastic sheets had come loose. I wonder if the "70mph upgrade" is a convenient excuse to allow them to close the lanes to do the repairs.

It's not like me to be cynical. :whistle:

[snooky]

Evening News reporting today that the problem is due to "workmanship" at the expansion joints. It has to be fixed before speed limit raised to 70mph.

[snooky]

"The Continuing Story Of Bungling Still" (that's for the Beatle fans)

More news on the drip feed today.....

..... (Michelle Rennie) added: "It is a workmanship issue, the design is correct.
"The surfacing wasn't laid to the tolerances set out in the design.
"The contractor hadn't designed the solution to this until probably a couple of weeks ago.
"There are (also) minor snagging issues with the wind shield.
"Some needs a bit of finishing work, which we will look to do during these few days when we have the lane restrictions on."

'Relatively normal'
Ms Rennie also told MSPs: "We've been consistently saying that there would be finishing and snagging works required.
"The contract allows for those works up until next September at no additional cost.
"There will be additional works. Mechanical and electrical works, lifts to the towers, and that sort of thing.
"There was no need to delay opening the bridge for that sort of thing. These are relatively normal."
Conservative MSP Jamie Greene asked if there would be further closures.
Ms Rennie replied: "There will be further lane restrictions."
The carriageway resurfacing work is due to take place between Thursday evening and 06:00 on Wednesday 6 December.
Southbound traffic will be diverted across the Forth Road Bridge while the work is carried out, with a speed limit of 40 mph on both bridges.
Transport Scotland said work was necessary on the bridge expansion joints to allow it to carry traffic travelling at 70 mph.

If you want to read the rest of the article (which is basically 'SNP Bad' as one would expect, to be fair), here it is ->>>>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42165899

[Jim44]

BBC news on radio 2 reported the temporary closure. They announced that the bridge would be closed to south bound traffic today, ‘“so traffic travelling south will have to use the Kincardine bridge, that’s over the Clyde isn’t it?” :confused: :rolleyes:

[theonlywayisup]

BBC news on radio 2 reported the temporary closure. They announced that the bridge would be closed to south bound traffic today, ‘“so traffic travelling south will have to use the Kincardine bridge, that’s over the Clyde isn’t it?” :confused: :rolleyes:

You're getting confused with the Erskine Bridge. The Kincardine Bridge is over the Forth - however, it's the 'old' Forth Road Bridge that's being used.

[snooky]

You're getting confused with the Erskine Bridge. The Kincardine Bridge is over the Forth - however, it's the 'old' Forth Road Bridge that's being used.

You are all confused. Northbound traffic to use the Skye bridge, southbound the Kessock bridge. Alien spacecraft can still use Bonnybridge.

[ronaldo7]

You are all confused. Northbound traffic to use the Skye bridge, southbound the Kessock bridge. Alien spacecraft can still use Bonnybridge.

Is this a press release from the Tory/Labour press team?

[JeMeSouviens]

Queensferry Crossing project 'well managed' and 'value for money' - says Audit Scotland:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-45041862

[Billy Whizz]

Queensferry Crossing project 'well managed' and 'value for money' - says Audit Scotland:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-45041862

It’s still so slow at peak times though

[mvteng]

It’s still so slow at peak times though

Travel home from Dunfermline to Edinburgh every day. All week its been tailed back for miles at rush hour.

For me , the biggest problem is the slip road that joins on just before the start of the bridge heading south. This just slows all the traffic down and is just a bad design.

absolutely no reason why they couldnt have all the rosyth traffic going across the old bridge and do away with the slip road.

[speedy_gonzales]

For me , the biggest problem is the slip road that joins on just before the start of the bridge heading south. This just slows all the traffic down and is just a bad design.

It's more or less the same going north, the slip is too close to the bridge proper. They'd have been better doing a reverse corkscrew similar to the A899 on to the M8 heading east.

[speedy_gonzales]

Queensferry Crossing project 'well managed' and 'value for money' - says Audit Scotland:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-45041862

Is it even finished, I thought there was still 11 months of remedial work to complete?

[snooky]

Queensferry Crossing project 'well managed' and 'value for money' - says Audit Scotland:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-45041862

Well they would, wouldn't they. :wink:

[RyeSloan]

Travel home from Dunfermline to Edinburgh every day. All week its been tailed back for miles at rush hour.

For me , the biggest problem is the slip road that joins on just before the start of the bridge heading south. This just slows all the traffic down and is just a bad design.

absolutely no reason why they couldnt have all the rosyth traffic going across the old bridge and do away with the slip road.

Ahh but remember the bridge was INTENTIONALLY designed not to increase capacity so rush hour tail backs were designed INTO the bridge.

It’s clearly a better bridge to use in non peak times but I’m with you on why they can’t use the old one for car traffic at peak times...that seems to be a non sensical decision.

[Billy Whizz]

Ahh but remember the bridge was INTENTIONALLY designed not to increase capacity so rush hour tail backs were designed INTO the bridge.

It’s clearly a better bridge to use in non peak times but I’m with you on why they can’t use the old one for car traffic at peak times...that seems to be a non sensical decision.
Also help if the residents of South Queensferry and Kirkliston, didn’thave to go all the way to the new bridge, to get into their houses