Luke Berry

[GreenLake]

Is it good buy or goodbye? Im just going to walk the dug

:greengrin

[Heisenberg]

That's a bit of a leap from having agreed a fee no?

Why else would Cambridge allow their player to go and visit another club while under contract with them?

[HoboHarry]

Why else would Cambridge allow their player to go and visit another club while under contract with them?
Aye ok then. Fee was agreed and Rod Petrie scuppered the deal. You win.

[Heisenberg]

Aye ok then. Fee was agreed and Rod Petrie scuppered the deal. You win.

I said absolutely nothing about Rod Petrie. Weird turn to take it. I've also never once mentioned us scrimping on the deal or not offering enough cash to the player. Calm down.

[Leith Green]

This thread is way beyond tragic, it borders on desperation .. Can we not close it and move on?

[1van Sprou7e]

That's a bit of a leap from having agreed a fee no?

I thought Millar said that we were showing him about the training ground?

What exactly is your point here?

[HoboHarry]

I thought Millar said that we were showing him about the training ground?

What exactly is your point here?
I don't have one so I gave up. I am inordinately unqualified to argue about nothing so I have decided to leave it to others who are better at it than me.

[Lago]

This thread is way beyond tragic, it borders on desperation .. Can we not close it and move on?
Pretty obvious the guy came up had a look around didn't fancy it & has gone back South to wait for better offers.

[K-Zazu]

This thread is way beyond tragic, it borders on desperation .. Can we not close it and move on?

That's the way I'm feeling

[Tobias Funke]

This thread is way beyond tragic, it borders on desperation .. Can we not close it and move on?

How is it tragic? Paper/media outlet links us with a player, topic opens, negotiations drag on, fans discuss recent developments. The recent trend for folk on here requesting threads to be closed is utterly ridiculous. Should we just close every subject that doesn't contain what you want to hear?

If the deal doesn't go through this topic will drop off the first page like every other non relevant thread. Until then let's just leave it open for debate.

[Iain G]

How is it tragic? Paper/media outlet links us with a player, topic opens, negotiations drag on, fans discuss recent developments. The recent trend for folk on here requesting threads to be closed is utterly ridiculous. Should we just close every subject that doesn't contain what you want to hear?

If the deal doesn't go through this topic will drop off the first page like every other non relevant thread. Until then let's just leave it open for debate.

Still sounds like an ambitious move by Hibs to try and sign a well regarded player by getting in first ahead of other interested clubs. If it does or doesn't come off its good to see the club showing intent in the transfer market.

[Heisenberg]

Lennon has confirmed it's not happening.

[1875STEVE]

Berry deal off - Source - Neil Lennon

[RamYer1902]

Confirmed by Neil Lennon, this deal is off.


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[The_Horde]

Where?

[Pete]

Berry deal off - Source - Neil Lennon

Cool.

We move on.

[Ken]

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[SHODAN]

Lennon has confirmed it's not happening.

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[neil7908]

Also quoted in the Scotman. Disappointing but hopefully young Fraser Murray can step up this year.

[supermcginn]

Also quoted in the Scotman. Disappointing but hopefully young Fraser Murray can step up this year.

Plenty other fish in the sea, a first choice number 10 will be coming in it just won't be berry

[Baw187]

Also quoted in the Scotman. Disappointing but hopefully young Fraser Murray can step up this year.

What? And bang in 20 goals from midfield?!

Not slating Young Murray, think he's got a bright future but hardly the alternative to a £250k signing with a history of banging them in from Midfield.

[Onion]

Confirmed by Neil Lennon, this deal is off.


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Disappointing, and a little embarrassing. Quite rare for clubs to agree a fee etc and for the club/player to fail to agree personal terms. These things should have been assessed or sounded out with the players' agent early on.

[GreenLake]

I have a feeling this will be his 15 minutes of fame.

[hfc rd]

Disappointing, and a little embarrassing. Quite rare for clubs to agree a fee etc and for the club/player to fail to agree personal terms. These things should have been assessed or sounded out with the players' agent early on.


These things happen though. Selling club accept the transfer fee but player may not want to join despite his club accepting the transfer offer.

[1van Sprou7e]

Disappointing, and a little embarrassing. Quite rare for clubs to agree a fee etc and for the club/player to fail to agree personal terms. These things should have been assessed or sounded out with the players' agent early on.

What are you basing that on? I don't believe it's that rare at all

There are also several potential reasons why he may not have signed, it's not necessarily the fault of the club

[Lago]

I have a feeling this will be his 15 minutes of fame.
Correct, who had heard of Berry previously he plays in the 4th, yes 4th tier of English football. His agent's played a blinder, everyone knows he is available for transfer & at what price also you can bet they will have worked out what his basic wage demands will be following his ER visit. If he goes it will still be at the lower levels of the English game, which I agree may well pay him more.

[Platinum Scotty]

Could another option be that whilst he liked what he saw at Hibs, when he factored in moving north and the potential upheaval then coupled it with the utterly dire Scottish performances during the week wondered what level of football he was letting himself in for so opted to price himself out of the move(if wages appeared to be the stumbling block) just a thought

[Ringothedog]

What? And bang in 20 goals from midfield?!

Not slating Young Murray, think he's got a bright future but hardly the alternative to a £250k signing with a history of banging them in from Midfield.

He was "banging" them in whilst playing in the English 4th tier, there was absolutely no chance that he would score that many in the top tier in Scotland, if he was that good he would have been snapped up by another team already.

I am certain we will sign somebody better than Luke Berry.

[Heisenberg]

He was "banging" them in whilst playing in the English 4th tier, there was absolutely no chance that he would score that many in the top tier in Scotland, if he was that good he would have been snapped up by another team already.

I am certain we will sign somebody better than Luke Berry.

He was snapped up by a team in a higher league and failed miserably so was punted back to Cambridge asap. Berry looked good and I was excited by his potential signing based on the video clips and his goal record last season but he still would've been a bit of a risk. I'm excited to see who Lennon targets next.

[Baw187]

He was "banging" them in whilst playing in the English 4th tier, there was absolutely no chance that he would score that many in the top tier in Scotland, if he was that good he would have been snapped up by another team already.

I am certain we will sign somebody better than Luke Berry.

I get that but Fraser Murray? Hardly comparable was the point.

[neil7908]

What? And bang in 20 goals from midfield?!

Not slating Young Murray, think he's got a bright future but hardly the alternative to a £250k signing with a history of banging them in from Midfield.

Who's to say Berry would have scored 20 goals for us? I'm not saying Fraser will get that number, just pointing out that all is not lost.

Swanson is one I'd put money on hitting double figures across all competitions next season.

[Nameless]

It doesn't say who ended the deal - hibs may be the ones who pulled the plug.

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[1van Sprou7e]

It doesn't say who ended the deal - hibs may be the ones who pulled the plug.

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You think we agreed a sum, invited him up and showed him around East Mains only to then pull the plug?

Not likely

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Berry would have been crushed in the currant spl

[Ringothedog]

You think we agreed a sum, invited him up and showed him around East Mains only to then pull the plug?

Not likely

We would if his personal terms were outrageous

[Nameless]

You think we agreed a sum, invited him up and showed him around East Mains only to then pull the plug?

Not likely
He might have failed the medical, or possibly Lennon didn't like the cut of his jib - Lennon did say the reason was personal.

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[KWJ]

Who's to say Berry would have scored 20 goals for us? I'm not saying Fraser will get that number, just pointing out that all is not lost.

Swanson is one I'd put money on hitting double figures across all competitions next season.

Exactly. James Collins scored 1 in 3 a league above Berry before joining Hibs for 200k. He then went back and did the same in League 2 and has improved since then.

[snooky]

It doesn't say who ended the deal - hibs may be the ones who pulled the plug.

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*Rasp*Berry?

The deal is dead & Berryed then.

[The_Horde]

He might have failed the medical, or possibly Lennon didn't like the cut of his jib - Lennon did say the reason was personal.

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No he said it was private and didn't want the public getting it. If the player didn't fancy hibs Lennon would've said.

[Waxy]

Berry would have been crushed in the currant spl

Good chance he might have been rotten anyway.When he's old he'll be telling everyone that he once had signing talks with The Hibees.

[O'Rourke3]

He was "banging" them in whilst playing in the English 4th tier, there was absolutely no chance that he would score that many in the top tier in Scotland, if he was that good he would have been snapped up by another team already.

I am certain we will sign somebody better than Luke Berry.
What league were Aldershot in when Miller was sniffing round David Platt?

[Andy74]

What league were Aldershot in when Miller was sniffing round David Platt?

Who cares? He played for Crewe.

[O'Rourke3]

Who cares? He played for Crewe.
[emoji1]

[O'Rourke3]

Geography never a strong point. Memory is and that clearly needed tested...

[Glory Lurker]

This can't possibly still be a thing.

[pacorosssco]

[QUOTE=1van Sprou7e;5094543]You think we agreed a sum, invited him up and showed him around East Mains only to then pull the plug?

Not likely[/QUOTE

Yes doubt the plan was to not do deal but maybe after his demands behavoir said trip things changed. We just move on now

[GreenLake]

*Rasp*Berry?

The deal is dead & Berryed then.

Dingle

[snooky]

Dingle
:greengrin
Yep, we don't need any hangers on.

[HoboHarry]

Berry would have been crushed in the currant spl
Nonsense - he would have been raisin his game every week.......

[pacorosssco]

Nonsense - he would have been raisin his game every week.......


Luke yer havin an ed de graaf

[Deeds]

He had the chance to wear the most beautiful strip in professional football...its his loss as far as
I'm concerned xx

[GreenLake]

:greengrin
Yep, we don't need any hangers on.

:greengrin
They will pile up on us.

[Jim44]

Look, this is the last straw .... Berry!!!

[Brunswickbill]

This is all just sour grapes.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

In the end though, we have not signed a player who really didn't want to come and for me at least, that is more than fine. Over to LD to support the boss to sign up the players who do want to come.

[lucky]

I'd never heard off him before he was linked with us and he looked decent on paper but deal has not gone through. I wish him all all best for the future but I'm not going to be overly concerned that he's not signed. He can go back playing lower league football and we can challenge for cups and a place in Europe

[The_Horde]

In the end though, we have not signed a player who really didn't want to come and for me at least, that is more than fine. Over to LD to support the boss to sign up the players who do want to come.

He did want the move. Why do people continue to deny the information given on here by folk who know?

[Heisenberg]

He did want the move. Why do people continue to deny the information given on here by folk who know?

The information given on here? It was one boy who dropped a comment in then ****ed off and didn't say another word. I don't blame folk for not believing it.

[Earlydelivery]

If you mean me ? What I said was what I was told from a very good source .
no more information from me .

[The_Horde]

The information given on here? It was one boy who dropped a comment in then ****ed off and didn't say another word. I don't blame folk for not believing it.

Why won't NL talk about it then? I think people are firmly head in the sand with this one.

[easty]

Why won't NL talk about it then? I think people are firmly head in the sand with this one.

What's there to say? We're no signing him, he's already said the deals off.

[Heisenberg]

Why won't NL talk about it then? I think people are firmly head in the sand with this one.

Because it's private? Could be his Mrs told him she wouldn't go? Could be he wanted too much cash? Could be Cambridge pulled the plug? Several different options. Doubt we'll ever officially find out what happened. Time to move on.

[The_Horde]

What's there to say? We're no signing him, he's already said the deals off.

Aye but he's normally quite open with the reasons. He openly said he wanted to keep this one private, which I found odd.

[The_Horde]

Because it's private? Could be his Mrs told him she wouldn't go? Could be he wanted too much cash? Could be Cambridge pulled the plug? Several different options. Doubt we'll ever officially find out what happened. Time to move on.

Why would Cambridge accept an offer and then pull the plug? Something must've happened for that to be the case. They can't have gone from being fully accepting of the player leaving to come to us and then randomly just not. Something must've happened. Maybe they wanted the fee kept quiet? Much like us with JC. You seen the reaction of their fans yourself!

[Heisenberg]

Why would Cambridge accept an offer and then pull the plug? Something must've happened for that to be the case. They can't have gone from being fully accepting of the player leaving to come to us and then randomly just not. Something must've happened. Maybe they wanted the fee kept quiet? Much like us with JC. You seen the reaction of their fans yourself!

Keeping the fee quiet is virtually impossible these days. News outlets will report on the fee/possible fee in almost every deal that goes on. SSN broke the story and mentioned the 250k. I'd be astonished if Cambridge wanted to pull the deal because of that. Even if that was the case, if the player wanted to move to us that badly he could have forced their hand to make it happen.

[Lago]

If you mean me ? What I said was what I was told from a very good source .
no more information from me .
Don't think anyone is really interested to be honest. Silence is golden.

[Kato]

He did want the move. Why do people continue to deny the information given on here by folk who know?

Because they could well be talking absolute pants.

[staunchhibby]

Time to move on we know he is not coming

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Jeezo, time to close this thread no? :rolleyes:

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Can we close this thread ?

[Smartie]

Because it's private? Could be his Mrs told him she wouldn't go? Could be he wanted too much cash? Could be Cambridge pulled the plug? Several different options. Doubt we'll ever officially find out what happened. Time to move on.

He couldn't bear the thought of putting his dog into quarantine.

Who was that again?

[Slim Shady]

Why would Cambridge accept an offer and then pull the plug? Something must've happened for that to be the case. They can't have gone from being fully accepting of the player leaving to come to us and then randomly just not. Something must've happened. Maybe they wanted the fee kept quiet? Much like us with JC. You seen the reaction of their fans yourself!

Bang on here. Even though the fee quoted was far off the mark, media, mostly social media has killed this one.

[easty]

He couldn't bear the thought of putting his dog into quarantine.

Who was that again?

Belle and Sebastian?

[Kato]

Bang on here. Even though the fee quoted was far off the mark, media, mostly social media has killed this one.

Pure speculation.

[GordonHFC]

Why would Cambridge accept an offer and then pull the plug? Something must've happened for that to be the case. They can't have gone from being fully accepting of the player leaving to come to us and then randomly just not. Something must've happened. Maybe they wanted the fee kept quiet? Much like us with JC. You seen the reaction of their fans yourself!

They pulled the plug because of the serious grief they were getting from their supporters. Someone at our end let loose with the fee and all hell broke loose at their end.

[Billy Whizz]

They pulled the plug because of the serious grief they were getting from their supporters. Someone at our end let loose with the fee and all hell broke loose at their end.

Seriously

[blackpoolhibs]

They pulled the plug because of the serious grief they were getting from their supporters. Someone at our end let loose with the fee and all hell broke loose at their end.


Of course they did. :faf:

Do you honestly believe that Gordon?

[SMAXXA]

Why is this still a threat? Aside from me asking this?

[Andy74]

They pulled the plug because of the serious grief they were getting from their supporters. Someone at our end let loose with the fee and all hell broke loose at their end.

Nah.

[CMurdoch]

According to the Cambridge Utd Chairman they did not agree a fee for Luke Berry with any club.
He states there were 4 bids made for the player, all of which they rejected.
What it doesn't state is who made the offers. So Hibs may have made all 4 offers or none at all.

Sheds a bit more light on the issue and shows us fans that the player didn't turn us down. He is an under contract player and his team decided to keep hold of him.

[Callum_62]

According to the Cambridge Utd Chairman they did not agree a fee for Luke Berry with any club.
He states there were 4 bids made for the player, all of which they rejected.
What it doesn't state is who made the offers. So Hibs may have made all 4 offers or none at all.

Sheds a bit more light on the issue and shows us fans that the player didn't turn us down. He is an under contract player and his team decided to keep hold of him.

After the expected fee was made public?


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[StevieCowan]

After the expected fee was made public?


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Yes and that's what killed the deal.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Yes and that's what killed the deal.
This is correct

[Heisenberg]

Yes and that's what killed the deal.

SSN reported the fee. Bunch of ****s.

[LancsHibs]

SSN reported the fee. Bunch of ****s.

Well somebody must have told them!

[Callum_62]

Lets see where he ends up or how much he goes for in the end. Undisclosed i reckon [emoji23]


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[GordonHFC]

Why would he come up here and look around the HTC if a fee hadn't been agreed. Anyone heard of that happening before when a player is under contract?

[Heisenberg]

Well somebody must have told them!

True. Makes the witch hunt against some Hibs fans pages look a bit silly though. SSN were the first to report the fee. No one has a clue who told them.

[GordonHFC]

True. Makes the witch hunt against some Hibs fans pages look a bit silly though. SSN were the first to report the fee. No one has a clue who told them.

Think Hibs might have a clue.

[Heisenberg]

Think Hibs might have a clue.

They probably will do. I'd guess it was his agent.

[matty_f]

Belle and Sebastian?

:faf: This post deserved more recognition, imho.

[The_Horde]

They probably will do. I'd guess it was his agent.

They wouldn't have pulled the deal if it was the guys agent, clearly they think it was us.

[FitbaFolkKen]

I reckon Cambridge moved the goalposts, why would we say a fee was agreed only for days later it was to come out it wasn't. Sounds a bit ropey and not our clubs fault tbh.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Think Hibs might have a clue.
:agree:

[matty_f]

:agree:

What exactly is the allegation? I genuinely lost track of this story, what actually happened to cause the deal to stall?

[Hibee87]

If hibs never told the media a fee was agreed and it came from a rumour page then why not just tell ssn this is fake and negotiations are still ongoing?

I truly don't know if it's common for a player to be shown around, but if negotiations were still ongoing I don't see why hibs couldn't request the chance to speak to him and maybe meet the squad etc to see if he would fit the plan.

If the goalposts were moved what's would hibs not just be blunt and say a fee was agreed and they moved it (if true) or say a fee couldn't be reached.

[HoboHarry]

If hibs never told the media a fee was agreed and it came from a rumour page then why not just tell ssn this is fake and negotiations are still ongoing?

I truly don't know if it's common for a player to be shown around, but if negotiations were still ongoing I don't see why hibs couldn't request the chance to speak to him and maybe meet the squad etc to see if he would fit the plan.

If the goalposts were moved what's would hibs not just be blunt and say a fee was agreed and they moved it (if true) or say a fee couldn't be reached.
As we are all aware, Hibs rarely comment regarding transfers until they are complete and even when they do they don't get into the real details in public.

[Aldo]

I reckon Cambridge moved the goalposts, why would we say a fee was agreed only for days later it was to come out it wasn't. Sounds a bit ropey and not our clubs fault tbh.

I will add as I posted earlier the agent has played a big part in all this!!

[easty]

:faf: This post deserved more recognition, imho.

Thanks. I thought so too :aok:

[Hibee87]

As we are all aware, Hibs rarely comment regarding transfers until they are complete and even when they do they don't get into the real details in public.

As in the proper way to do business. And if it is genuinely a personal thing with player and/or wages I agree we wouldn't announce it. But the fact the chairman said a fee wasn't agreed and if it's putting hibs or fans connected to hibs in a bad light I'd expect us to say something, don't you think?

Edit. I realise my first bit might be misread. I meant why didn't Cambridge say to ssn negotiones are still ongoing if he cares enough about to gossip to make that statement.

[GordonHFC]

As I said earlier, if a fee hadn't been agreed why was he at the HTC?

[mjhibby]

Just another chapter in the crazy world of the transfer window. A fee must have been broadly agreed for him to fly out to Edinburgh and go to HTC. Sounds like the players fancied it but their club got greedy when presumably other clubs became interested. I would of thought adding in say a sell on clause would maybe have been a solution but it probably didn't get to that.

[Paisley Hibby]

The guy's not coming is all I need to know. I don't care why he's not coming and I care even less about what he does next.