Hearts' New Stand Thread (Merged)

[Ozyhibby]

It’s nothing to do with managing her expectations. She is flat out lying to them. If they are daft enough to believe her, then more fool them. If I was them I would be worried that if she can lie so easily about this, what other lies is she telling them?


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[Sergio sledge]

It’s nothing to do with managing her expectations. She is flat out lying to them. If they are daft enough to believe her, then more fool them. If I was them I would be worried that if she can lie so easily about this, what other lies is she telling them?


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I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she doesn't have much experience dealing with construction projects and when the contractor tells her they are still on track she takes it at face value and doesn't have the experience to realise that what they are telling her is not achievable.

[Ozyhibby]

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she doesn't have much experience dealing with construction projects and when the contractor tells her they are still on track she takes it at face value and doesn't have the experience to realise that what they are telling her is not achievable.

She has plenty knowledge of the building industry close at hand. She knows exactly what she is doing. It’s all about keeping the money rolling in. Nothing else matters as they are spending a lot more than they are bringing in.


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[Ozyhibby]

Their annual accounts have came out at the start of November since she took over so they should be due any day now. They will make interesting reading.
Ours are due now as well.


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[Peevemor]

It’s nothing to do with managing her expectations. She is flat out lying to them. If they are daft enough to believe her, then more fool them. If I was them I would be worried that if she can lie so easily about this, what other lies is she telling them?


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I don't believe she's been lying about expected completion dates, I think she's been misinformed. I think that the contractors, maybe being over optimistic, have been telling her what she wants to hear as opposed to the reality.

I've worked in construction for over 30 years, and I've lost count of the number of times I've seen contractors making the right noises to keep a client happy when everyone around the table knows that they're promising the impossible.

[Bostonhibby]

It now looks every inch a £14million piece of architecture.

A lot of us here have been put right in our place.Magnificent, if someone wanted to buy one of those orangey brown colored seats how much would it cost bearing in mind a plastic owl is £4k?

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[Peevemor]

Magnificent, if someone wanted to buy one of those orangey brown colored seats how much would it cost bearing in mind a plastic owl is £4k?

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https://www.amazon.com/Hearts-Universal-Bucket-Seat-Cover-Black/dp/B000CAM1NM

[Bostonhibby]

https://www.amazon.com/Hearts-Universal-Bucket-Seat-Cover-Black/dp/B000CAM1NM☺

These look neither atmospheric or historic to me.

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[Pete]

https://www.amazon.com/Hearts-Universal-Bucket-Seat-Cover-Black/dp/B000CAM1NM

“Global priority shipping”?

It’s all making sense now.

[Peevemor]

☺

These look neither atmospheric or historic to me.

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?

https://www.dhresource.com/0x0s/f2-albu-g3-M00-80-70-rBVaHVZIneiAVKEWAAJ1AXiNg8Q373.jpg/heart-shaped-pillow-car-pillow-cushion-pillow.jpg

[Bostonhibby]

?

https://www.dhresource.com/0x0s/f2-albu-g3-M00-80-70-rBVaHVZIneiAVKEWAAJ1AXiNg8Q373.jpg/heart-shaped-pillow-car-pillow-cushion-pillow.jpgToo poppy like, they'll only get stolen.

Mind you matching ones for Potter and the good doctor might work. And one of those windscreen stickers with their names on.

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[McSwanky]

Too poppy like, they'll only get stolen.

:top marks

[Col2]

Their annual accounts have came out at the start of November since she took over so they should be due any day now. They will make interesting reading.
Ours are due now as well.


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Will they need to give full transparency on cost of stand even though accounts would have had a cut of date eg end of July?

[hibbyfraelibby]

I don't believe she's been lying about expected completion dates, I think she's been misinformed. I think that the contractors, maybe being over optimistic, have been telling her what she wants to hear as opposed to the reality.

I've worked in construction for over 30 years, and I've lost count of the number of times I've seen contractors making the right noises to keep a client happy when everyone around the table knows that they're promising the impossible.

She is just telling the punters what they want to hear in the same manner project customers of Newell and Budge used to get led a merry dance with cost and timescale over-runs on IT projects they were delivering got. Once an IT Consultant always always a failure to deliver on time or to budget or to specification

[Iain G]

I don't believe she's been lying about expected completion dates, I think she's been misinformed. I think that the contractors, maybe being over optimistic, have been telling her what she wants to hear as opposed to the reality.

I've worked in construction for over 30 years, and I've lost count of the number of times I've seen contractors making the right noises to keep a client happy when everyone around the table knows that they're promising the impossible.

She should read this thread then :greengrin:wink:

[Jack Hackett]

She should read this thread then :greengrin:wink:

I have a sneaky wee feeling she does :greengrin

[Caversham Green]

Will they need to give full transparency on cost of stand even though accounts would have had a cut of date eg end of July?

No, the costs up to year end will be shown as 'Assets in the course of construction'. That will accumulate until the stand is finished and then be transferred to Land and Buildings - at that point (probably in the 2018 accounts) we'll know the full cost.

They'd already spent £706,000 by 30 June 2016 - presumably planning etc.

[Caversham Green]

I see in her latest brief update she says the cappings had to be grey because of planning conditions "in keeping with the new Tynecastle school" but as far as I can see the two buildings are not remotely similar. In fact the school has what might be termed a glass curtain wall made of darkened glass with black/dark grey frames - the stand would have looked far better if they had followed that example IMO.

[supershotmo]

The Evening News must be right. I take it you have to dangle your legs if you have a seat behind the dug out.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/video-hearts-new-main-stand-nears-completion-1-4604098?d

[Iain G]

The Evening News must be right. I take it you have to dangle your legs if you have a seat behind the dug out.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/video-hearts-new-main-stand-nears-completion-1-4604098?d

It will not be finished with all certification and testing complete for the 19th November. No chance.

[Jim44]

The Evening News must be right. I take it you have to dangle your legs if you have a seat behind the dug out.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/video-hearts-new-main-stand-nears-completion-1-4604098?d

Plastic bags round seats for plastic Huns.

[Oscar T Grouch]

The Evening News must be right. I take it you have to dangle your legs if you have a seat behind the dug out.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/video-hearts-new-main-stand-nears-completion-1-4604098?d

Wow, I am astonished at this video, it genuinely looks like they dont have a main stand, just 4 bog standard stands with no corporate facilities. This has to be a world first, well done hearts!!! To give them credit, the tunnel looks much wider in this vid that in the photo previously posted here :greengrin

[Not In The Know]

"On the pitch side, the new stand offers design continuity with the other three stands forming a real cauldron.”

Mega lols. So its as crap as the other 3 then!

[Aldo]

Will they need to give full transparency on cost of stand even though accounts would have had a cut of date eg end of July?

Transparency and Yams ha like that Col


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[dangermouse]

The Evening News must be right. I take it you have to dangle your legs if you have a seat behind the dug out.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/video-hearts-new-main-stand-nears-completion-1-4604098?d

Nears completion my erse!

[Geo_1875]

Nears completion my erse!

And only costing £12million?

[Pete]

Wow, I am astonished at this video, it genuinely looks like they dont have a main stand, just 4 bog standard stands with no corporate facilities. This has to be a world first, well done hearts!!! To give them credit, the tunnel looks much wider in this vid that in the photo previously posted here :greengrin

The facilities are all there.

They’re just facing the wrong way.

[RyeSloan]

Nears completion my erse!

And all paid for by the fans allegedly as well...

[Seveno]

I don't believe she's been lying about expected completion dates, I think she's been misinformed. I think that the contractors, maybe being over optimistic, have been telling her what she wants to hear as opposed to the reality.

I've worked in construction for over 30 years, and I've lost count of the number of times I've seen contractors making the right noises to keep a client happy when everyone around the table knows that they're promising the impossible.

You are being too kind to her. I have never worked in construction but it has been blindingly obvious to anyone with a modicum of commonsense that it was never going to be ready for the start of November, let alone the promised earlier dates. She has been lying to the muppets to keep the money coming in.

[O'Rourke3]

Plastic seat stuck to a wall a completion doth not make.... The guy who's copyright is on the video was also involved in the labour of love which is the glass curtain. It's interesting he didn't present that on video as well or would windaes be too confusing to the aesthetic pygmies like ourselves that cant see the curtain for the glass?

[lord bunberry]

Wow, I am astonished at this video, it genuinely looks like they dont have a main stand, just 4 bog standard stands with no corporate facilities. This has to be a world first, well done hearts!!! To give them credit, the tunnel looks much wider in this vid that in the photo previously posted here :greengrin
Here’s a picture from yesterday with someone standing in the tunnel. It really is single file traffic
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[greenginger]

And all paid for by the fans allegedly as well...


There are fans on our Council ? Yep, all paid for by the fans right enough.

[GreenOnions]

There were some unpleasant truths edited out of the EEN article before it was published. These are shown below in green:

Unlike most of Hearts' spending over the last twenty years - which was financed largely by hoodwinked Lithuanian taxpayers as well as by various unwitting local businesses and charities, Heriot Watt University and Edinburgh council tax payers - the club's new stand has been Paid for by fans ......(it) has slowly been taking shape since the spring and is now close to welcoming its first paying customers

[Speedway]

'paid for by fans' followed by 'will soon be open to paying customers'.

So you pay for the right to pay for the right to sit down in a stand.

This lot aren't as daft as we make them out to be.

The Owner's toilet has also been installed.

Tickets can now be reserved online for the stadium tour which includes a viewing of the brand new 'Budgie Cludgie'.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Here’s a picture from yesterday with someone standing in the tunnel. It really is single file traffic
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Don't know if it's the position the photos been taken at but it doesn't even look to be in the centre of the stand

[hibees 7062]

'paid for by fans' followed by 'will soon be open to paying customers'.

So you pay for the right to pay for the right to sit down in a stand.

This lot aren't as daft as we make them out to be.

The Owner's toilet has also been installed.

Tickets can now be reserved online for the stadium tour which includes a viewing of the brand new 'Budgie Cludgie'.

Who ****s there when they take over ?

[scm70nyd1973]

You can't beat Wellington on a good day :wink::greengrin:na na:

Only if it isnae windy - can’t beat Waiheke Island though !

[lapsedhibee]

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she doesn't have much experience dealing with construction projects and when the contractor tells her they are still on track she takes it at face value and doesn't have the experience to realise that what they are telling her is not achievable.


I don't believe she's been lying about expected completion dates, I think she's been misinformed. I think that the contractors, maybe being over optimistic, have been telling her what she wants to hear as opposed to the reality.

Very generous guys. Isn't her Hibby brother a builder? She knows.

[Iain G]

Only if it isnae windy - can’t beat Waiheke Island though !

Wellington is even nice in a little bit of a breeze 😁

[lyonhibs]

That stand, with the whole 1 side still missing and the interior looking like some unfinished "industrial chic" theme pub is about as near to completion as I am to a coke fuelled threesome with Jennifer Lawrence and a young Farah Fawcett.

To wit, not as close as either myself or Hearts fans would wish.

[Iain G]

The EEN don't even question the lies and fabrications that they are being fed, where are these 150 workers in ANY of the photos?!? And they would all be working on top of each other!

I am working on a project that costs 10 times the value of this tin pot stand and we are barely hitting 300 on site at peak!

Nobody in the media is willing to ask questions for fear of losing their free lunches and call Budge out for being a liar.

If I was claiming all hands to the pump to finish it I would be posting photos of the hoardes crawling all over it to show how.much effort was being put in...

[JimBHibees]

The EEN don't even question the lies and fabrications that they are being fed, where are these 150 workers in ANY of the photos?!? And they would all be working on top of each other!

I am working on a project that costs 10 times the value of this tin pot stand and we are barely hitting 300 on site at peak!

Nobody in the media is willing to ask questions for fear of losing their free lunches and call Budge out for being a liar.

Yep at Ibrox it was succulent lamb, at Hearts succulent yam. :greengrin

[hibby6270]

Their annual accounts have came out at the start of November since she took over so they should be due any day now. They will make interesting reading.
Ours are due now as well.


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You’re right. Both clubs published their accounts around this time last year.

However, According to Companies House, their accounts to 30 June 2017 aren’t due until 31st Dec 2017.
Ours up to the same date aren’t due until 31st March 2018.

Not sure if that’s the final dates they have to be published on or whether they can be published any time up to those dates.

[Famous Fiver]

Deafening silence from Budge on 3 things

1) Cost
2) Completion date
3) Capacity

1) Too embarrassed to let on what the cost overrun is, or can she not put a figure on it?
2) Looks like it's weeks/months away from being anywhere near ready
3) Certain to be less than Easter Road. We don't care but you can bet the thousands of the great unwashed will be.

All they get are the platitudes. ' It'll be great when it's finished'.

Pass the popcorn. This has got a long way to run yet.

[MyJo]

Yep at Ibrox it was succulent lamb, at Hearts succulent yam. :greengrin

Succulent yam fries :agree:

can't forget the chips

[SJNB Hibby]

The Season Preview edition of 442 finally made it to our shores.
In the Yams section, when asked "Save the Date for" the response by one Joel Sked is:
"Hearts v Aberdeen on September 9th in front of the new Main Stand" only out by at least 2 months!!:greengrin

[GreenCastle]

They are now selling tickets online for the next 5 home games at the PBS.

One fan comments on kickback...

"How come there is almost no tickets left in the New Stand already?"

Maybe because you spent £14 million adding only 1500 new seats :faf: (which is about the lower tier of the FF lower)

Stuck with that capacity for many years to come :lolyam:

[hibbyfraelibby]

They are now selling tickets online for the next 5 home games at the PBS.

One fan comments on kickback...

"How come there is almost no tickets left in the New Stand already?"

Maybe because you spent £14 million adding only 1500 new seats :faf: (which is about the lower tier of the FF lower)

Stuck with that capacity for many years to come :lolyam:

So if they are selling them they can only sell what has been built / installed meaning we can finally put to bed the over 20k capacity debate.

We need a Vomitorium Dot Count. Callum!

[Albanian Hibs]

Deafening silence from Budge on 3 things

1) Cost
2) Completion date
3) Capacity

1) Too embarrassed to let on what the cost overrun is, or can she not put a figure on it?
2) Looks like it's weeks/months away from being anywhere near ready
3) Certain to be less than Easter Road. We don't care but you can bet the thousands of the great unwashed will be.

All they get are the platitudes. ' It'll be great when it's finished'.

Pass the popcorn. This has got a long way to run yet.

That EEN article stating there will be 7290 seats.....😎

[GreenCastle]

So if they are selling them they can only sell what has been built / installed meaning we can finally put to bed the over 20k capacity debate.

We need a Vomitorium Dot Count. Callum!

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/details/event.aspx?itemref=1616

If anyone has the time and patience to count them - click the link above! I am sure it's been done earlier in this thread.

I notice the club with no shame are still selling restricted view seats also behind the police box - anyway to make some £££ :rolleyes:

[Bostonhibby]

That EEN article stating there will be 7290 seats.....[emoji41]Anyone remember the EEN difficulties with yam related numbers when they were "self sufficient" or when Banderson was spouting about millions they'd raised only to be out in his arithmetic by, er, ehm millions?

Capacity will be somewhere around 6800, source? our family yam and a guy who is sub contracting there. At least as reliable as the EEN.

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[Keith_M]

I've finally worked out what this actually means


"Work still to be completed includes creating the dug-outs, which will be sunk slightly to improve pitch views"


It looks like they really did forget, when designing the Stand, that it was supposed to have things like Dugouts, etc. Now that they've remembered, they realised that having normal Dugouts would block the view of the seats behind, so they've had to lower them a bit.



The "improved pitch views" they're referring to isn't from the Dugout... it's from the seats directly behind.



:faf:

[GreenCastle]

I've finally worked out what this actually means


"Work still to be completed includes creating the dug-outs, which will be sunk slightly to improve pitch views"


It looks like they really did forget, when designing the Stand, that it was supposed to have things like Dugouts, etc. Now that they've remembered, they realised that having normal Dugouts would block the view of the seats behind, so they've had to lower them a bit.



The "improved pitch views" they're referring to isn't from the Dugout... it's from the seats directly behind.

:faf:

I said at the time of the plans they had forgotten the dugouts.

I'm not quite sure how being sunken into the ground will improve pitch views :confused: Most modern stadiums are having raised dugouts so coaches can get better views from a higher vantage point of team shape etc.

[Iain G]

I said at the time of the plans they had forgot the dugouts.

I'm not quite sure how being sunken into the ground will improve pitch views :confused: Most modern stadiums are having raised dugouts so coaches can get better views from a higher vantage point of team shape etc.

The further down they dig the further away from the hoofball they will be!

[--------]

I've finally worked out what this actually means

"Work still to be completed includes creating the dug-outs, which will be sunk slightly to improve pitch views"

It looks like they really did forget, when designing the Stand, that it was supposed to have things like Dugouts, etc. Now that they've remembered, they realised that having normal Dugouts would block the view of the seats behind, so they've had to lower them a bit.

The "improved pitch views" they're referring to isn't from the Dugout... it's from the seats directly behind.

:faf:

I remember years ago when we had just completed the first phase of the ER rebuild. The Famous Five and the South Stand were completed and the first derby match afterwards the Jambos were crowing about how Hibs had got it all wrong - the front 2 or 3 rows in the South were so low no one sitting there could see what was going on. And of course they didn't believe the explanation - in order to ensure that the stadium when finished would be UEFA-compliant, Hibs had to level the famous sloping pitch. The goal at the south end of the ground was, I believe, 8 feet higher than that at the north end.

A very few years later the West Stand was built (that's the Main Stand that they're saying is so inferior to the world-class "erection" they're in the process of raising right now) the pitch was levelled and everything turned out to be just right.

This is called forward planning, or foresight, or even common sense. You get an architect to design your stadium, taking all future issues into account, and then build in accordance with his design.

That way you get a pitch that's the right size, with properly-sized run-off areas around it, and stands built so that all the seats allow an unrestricted view of all four corners of the pitch, and all the modern facilities required to stage major club and international matches. I believe those facilities include a clear view of the pitch from the respective technical areas for the team coaches ...

Of course we don't have glass curtains or a piazza or vomitoriums at ER, but all of the spectators (and the teams' coaching staffs) can see all of the match all of the time. Which is kind of the point of a football stadium, I'd have thought.

[Sioux]

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/details/event.aspx?itemref=1616

If anyone has the time and patience to count them - click the link above! I am sure it's been done earlier in this thread.

I notice the club with no shame are still selling restricted view seats also behind the police box - anyway to make some £££ :rolleyes:

£39 for a premium seat!! Are they kidding?

I've just put 10 in my basket for the PT game.

Maybe we could get this sold out in a couple of hours:turnevil:

[greenlex]

I remember years ago when we had just completed the first phase of the ER rebuild. The Famous Five and the South Stand were completed and the first derby match afterwards the Jambos were crowing about how Hibs had got it all wrong - the front 2 or 3 rows in the South were so low no one sitting there could see what was going on. And of course they didn't believe the explanation - in order to ensure that the stadium when finished would be UEFA-compliant, Hibs had to level the famous sloping pitch. The goal at the south end of the ground was, I believe, 8 feet higher than that at the north end.

A very few years later the West Stand was built (that's the Main Stand that they're saying is so inferior to the world-class "erection" they're in the process of raising right now) the pitch was levelled and everything turned out to be just right.

This is called forward planning, or foresight, or even common sense. You get an architect to design your stadium, taking all future issues into account, and then build in accordance with his design.

That way you get a pitch that's the right size, with properly-sized run-off areas around it, and stands built so that all the seats allow an unrestricted view of all four corners of the pitch, and all the modern facilities required to stage major club and international matches. I believe those facilities include a clear view of the pitch from the respective technical areas for the team coaches ...

Of course we don't have glass curtains or a piazza or vomitoriums at ER, but all of the spectators (and the teams' coaching staffs) can see all of the match all of the time. Which is kind of the point of a football stadium, I'd have thought.
Not only that the FF stand appeared to be much higher as not only was the south half of the pitch lowered the north half was raised to make it level. Amazing what can be achieved if you get the proper professionals in to do their thing.

[Skol]

So some jambos will have their view obscured by levein and the away manager.

[Lunatic]

I actually think the whole thing is looking amazing. The best main stand in world football will very soon be gracing us with it's presence. They've almost finished the toilets and they're looking good, all that remains is to paint them pink.

https://i.imgur.com/mEVzrxG.gifv

[jacomo]

I remember years ago when we had just completed the first phase of the ER rebuild. The Famous Five and the South Stand were completed and the first derby match afterwards the Jambos were crowing about how Hibs had got it all wrong - the front 2 or 3 rows in the South were so low no one sitting there could see what was going on. And of course they didn't believe the explanation - in order to ensure that the stadium when finished would be UEFA-compliant, Hibs had to level the famous sloping pitch. The goal at the south end of the ground was, I believe, 8 feet higher than that at the north end.

A very few years later the West Stand was built (that's the Main Stand that they're saying is so inferior to the world-class "erection" they're in the process of raising right now) the pitch was levelled and everything turned out to be just right.

This is called forward planning, or foresight, or even common sense. You get an architect to design your stadium, taking all future issues into account, and then build in accordance with his design.

That way you get a pitch that's the right size, with properly-sized run-off areas around it, and stands built so that all the seats allow an unrestricted view of all four corners of the pitch, and all the modern facilities required to stage major club and international matches. I believe those facilities include a clear view of the pitch from the respective technical areas for the team coaches ...

Of course we don't have glass curtains or a piazza or vomitoriums at ER, but all of the spectators (and the teams' coaching staffs) can see all of the match all of the time. Which is kind of the point of a football stadium, I'd have thought.


Bingo.

[O'Rourke3]

I remember years ago when we had just completed the first phase of the ER rebuild. The Famous Five and the South Stand were completed and the first derby match afterwards the Jambos were crowing about how Hibs had got it all wrong - the front 2 or 3 rows in the South were so low no one sitting there could see what was going on. And of course they didn't believe the explanation - in order to ensure that the stadium when finished would be UEFA-compliant, Hibs had to level the famous sloping pitch. The goal at the south end of the ground was, I believe, 8 feet higher than that at the north end.

A very few years later the West Stand was built (that's the Main Stand that they're saying is so inferior to the world-class "erection" they're in the process of raising right now) the pitch was levelled and everything turned out to be just right.

This is called forward planning, or foresight, or even common sense. You get an architect to design your stadium, taking all future issues into account, and then build in accordance with his design.

That way you get a pitch that's the right size, with properly-sized run-off areas around it, and stands built so that all the seats allow an unrestricted view of all four corners of the pitch, and all the modern facilities required to stage major club and international matches. I believe those facilities include a clear view of the pitch from the respective technical areas for the team coaches ...

Of course we don't have glass curtains or a piazza or vomitoriums at ER, but all of the spectators (and the teams' coaching staffs) can see all of the match all of the time. Which is kind of the point of a football stadium, I'd have thought.

Or build a stand that coped with press,media, players tunnel, dugouts, police control and tv commentary :faf:

[Phil MaGlass]

The further down they dig the further away from the hoofball they will be!

Its actually trenches they are digging, preparing to single handedly win WW3

[theonlywayisup]

As someone who works in the industry there's no way it will be ready for the end of the month if below still has to be completed.

"Work still to be completed includes creating the dug-outs, which will be sunk slightly to improve pitch views; fitting the Roseburn end gable, power installation for lighting and PA systems; and laying new roadway to accommodate emergency vehicles."

[theonlywayisup]

Lifted from Wiki

The first dugout appeared at Pittodrie (home of Aberdeen) in the early 1920s. The story goes that Aberdeen’s trainer at the time, Donald Colman, was a boxing and dancing enthusiast obsessed with his players’ footwork. Because he also made meticulous notes during each game and therefore needed a dry notebook, he had Aberdeen build a sunken covered area at Pittodrie, thereafter known as the ‘dugout’. A few years later Everton visited, liked the idea and built one at Goodison Park. Don’t forget that this was some 40 years before the introduction of substitutes.

In the early days dugouts had to be sunk below ground level so as not to get in the way of the crowd, although it is not that uncommon in Non League to find the odd example where they are positioned immediately in front of the stand, as at Sidlesham until fairly recently. These days it is quite rare to see a proper dugout, sunk below ground level. Part of this reason probably stems from the fact that it is virtually impossible to get a good view of the action from such a worms eye position, although a more pragmatic answer is that they tend to get full of water, particularly during a typical British football season. Wembley Stadium was unusual in that there were no dugouts as such, but instead provided the classic ‘trainers bench’ on the touchline.

... So now you know :greengrin

They tend to get full of water. I'm sure they designed in some decent drainage to remove the water.

[Springbank]

Ann Budge could just get the fans to bring along a bucket or pail to each game. Lets face it hearts have been shipping water ever since mrs budge took over, pocketing her risk-free 6% interest while the fans pay and pay again.

So instead of expensive engineered drainage solutions, this surely represents another 'world first' opportunity:

For just £51 you can spend a game in the home dug out (or £15 for the away dug out) getting a World Class matchday experience.
Terms/Conditions : bring a pail at 1pm to help drain the puddles (drinking optional at NO EXTRA COST)

[jingler1954]

Very generous guys. Isn't her Hibby brother a builder? She knows.

He is and a big Hibby!

[Moulin Yarns]

As someone who works in the industry there's no way it will be ready for the end of the month if below still has to be completed.

"Work still to be completed includes creating the dug-outs, which will be sunk slightly to improve pitch views; fitting the Roseburn end gable, power installation for lighting and PA systems; and laying new roadway to accommodate emergency vehicles."

like this?

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[RyeSloan]

As someone who works in the industry there's no way it will be ready for the end of the month if below still has to be completed.

"Work still to be completed includes creating the dug-outs, which will be sunk slightly to improve pitch views; fitting the Roseburn end gable, power installation for lighting and PA systems; and laying new roadway to accommodate emergency vehicles."

Yeah it was quite amusing the way they slipped that in like it was a snagging list...

[blackpoolhibs]

Can hear the excuses already, levein says we have 5 players out of the next 2 games with trenchfoot.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Exclusive Pictures of the new Jumbo's sunken dugouts being trialled.

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[lord bunberry]

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That’s that then, they’d never lie about this sort of thing would they?

[Kato]

Sinking the dugouts to "improve pitch views". Jesus H Christ, they really will swallow any old tosh.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Sinking the dugouts to "improve pitch views". Jesus H Christ, they really will swallow any old tosh.

Seems typically Hearts. How is sinking the dugouts going to improve views? Views of football boots?

[Bostonhibby]

Sinking the dugouts to "improve pitch views". Jesus H Christ, they really will swallow any old tosh.Indeed. They are leaving the police control box in place to offer an elite group of fans the exclusive opportunity to acquire a seat that offers them the experience of seeing some of a football match whilst simultaneously observing some views of the heads and shoulders of Scotlands finest in action.

Watch and learn hobos.

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[Frazerbob]

They're now selling tickets for the next 5 home games, at Tynie. Looks like they're finally getting it (partially) open.

[Bostonhibby]

They're now selling tickets for the next 5 home games, at Tynie. Looks like they're finally getting it (partially) open.They've been taking money from the givers in exchange for shares in the club under the last two regimes and they've still received zilch so this ticket sale doesn't actually mean they'll do what it says on the ticket.

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[Aldo]

<img src="http://www.hibs.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=19622"/> That’s that then, they’d never lie about this sort of thing would they?

So it will be safe for fans with everything tested and a safety certificate issued or typical yam style they will do what they want??

[WhileTheChief..]

Sinking the dugouts to "improve pitch views". Jesus H Christ, they really will swallow any old tosh.

I think they mean for the fans behind the dugouts.

Clearly it’s more important for them to see the game than the manager!!

[BSEJVT]

I think they mean for the fans behind the dugouts.

Clearly it’s more important for them to see the game than the manager!!

I don’t doubt that sinking the dugouts will give a far better view of the pitch itself

Unfortunately it will be completely impossible to determine what is actually happening on it from them

[Bostonhibby]

I think they mean for the fans behind the dugouts.

Clearly it’s more important for them to see the game than the manager!!Another unique selling point at the gorgie Maracana. They have innovatively designed these seats so fans can see the game.

Obviously doesn't apply in the school view lounge.

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[lapsedhibee]

Exclusive Pictures of the new Jumbo's sunken dugouts being trialled.

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Did they get the idea for these dugouts from the Vietcong when they defeated them in the Vietnam War?

[WoreTheGreen]

Did they get the idea for these dugouts from the Vietcong when they defeated them in the Vietnam War?

Fools mental jakies.

[Saturday Boy]

Fools mental jakies.

Top post 😁

[WoreTheGreen]

"I love the smell of made pan chips in the morning "

[AltheHibby]

Did they get the idea for these dugouts from the Vietcong when they defeated them in the Vietnam War?

When they do the jambo remake will Nade be cast as Pyle? They certainly have the same profile. 😀

[--------]

Another unique selling point at the gorgie Maracana. They have innovatively designed these seats so fans can see the game.

Obviously doesn't apply in the school view lounge.

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I think you mean "Macaroon"? Naw? :devil:

[Bostonhibby]

I think you mean "Macaroon"? Naw? [emoji317]Maybe but it'd have to be a big one.

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[Winston Ingram]

The last statement they released said the delay was to allow for testing. There’s a picture on Jkb from this afternoon showing the stand is clearly not finished.

[Bostonhibby]

The last statement they released said the delay was to allow for testing. There’s a picture on Jkb from this afternoon showing the stand is clearly not finished.

:agree: They're just testing it to see if its not finished - there will be a positive announcement from the good doctor tomorrow.

Dear listeners we have tested the new stand on time and are please to be able to tell you that it is not finished.

Much rejoicing in the land, sacrificing of first born children, Halleys comet putting in an early appearance etc..........

Tune in next week for we're planning to test the window in the school view lounge to see if we can see the castle.

[Forthview]

The last statement they released said the delay was to allow for testing. There’s a picture on Jkb from this afternoon showing the stand is clearly not finished.

They always knew testing of the structure and building services installations was a Statutory requirement to get approval from building control, completion is not delayed because of these works. It's just another lie sucked up by the idiots.

[Kato]

I think they mean for the fans behind the dugouts.

Clearly it’s more important for them to see the game than the manager!!
:wink:

Maybe the seats recline and everybody can lie back and watch the ball hoofing about truss height.

[Argylehibby]

:wink:

Maybe the seats recline and everybody can lie back and watch the ball hoofing about truss height.
:faf::faf:

[Joe6-2]

So some jambos will have their view obscured by levein and the away manager.

All depends how deep they sink it!!

[Joe6-2]

Fools mental jakies.

Brilliant 👍

[majorhibs]

When they do the jambo remake will Nade be cast as Pyle? They certainly have the same profile. 😀

10 men could’ve probably carried Pyle. But defo no Nade!

[Deansy]

Somewhere in deepest, darkest Russia there's a Lithuanian, ex-submariner muttering away to himself - 'Bollockski - if only I'd remembered the amount of ****ski these morons can swallow, I would've trebled the price of the share-certificates !'

[Bostonhibby]

Somewhere in deepest, darkest Russia there's a Lithuanian, ex-submariner muttering away to himself - 'Bollockski - if only I'd remembered the amount of ****ski these morons can swallow, I would've trebled the price of the share-certificates !'Don't despair. Remember the good doctor often refers to unnamed investors when megastand funding comes up. Maybe Agent romanov is still around? 6.5% interest is still a decent return[emoji6]

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[Ozyhibby]

Don't despair. Remember the good doctor often refers to unnamed investors when megastand funding comes up. Maybe Agent romanov is still around? 6.5% interest is still a decent return[emoji6]

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Unnamed sources of finance? And the SFA and SPFL allow this, why?


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[Moulin Yarns]

Unnamed sources of finance? And the SFA and SPFL allow this, why?


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A return to the days of PFI projects. :wink:

[Bostonhibby]

Unnamed sources of finance? And the SFA and SPFL allow this, why?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkUndisclosed investors I think the phrase was.

The "fit and proper person" test is the benchmark for me. If you pass the sort of people they do then it's the wild west once they get the nod.

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[Eyrie]

Unnamed sources of finance? And the SFA and SPFL allow this, why?


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Because such unknown individuals would struggle to fail any fit and proper test that has already been passed by a glib and shameless liar.

[snooky]

I actually think the whole thing is looking amazing. The best main stand in world football will very soon be gracing us with it's presence. They've almost finished the toilets and they're looking good, all that remains is to paint them pink.

https://i.imgur.com/mEVzrxG.gifv

Will the new Tynie stand be anything like My Little Pony's Castle?

[Joe6-2]

Will the new Tynie stand be anything like My Little Pony's Castle?

No, because my little pony can see the castle!

[PapillonVert]

The ones who have a restricted view should be grateful, I think.

[1van Sprou7e]

So was that the last game at murrayfield anyone know?

[SirDavidsNapper]

So was that the last game at murrayfield anyone know?

Nobody knows. Not even Budge

[WoreTheGreen]

No, because my little pony can see the castle!

On holiday and got speaking to a the rangers fan seen my SCW polo and said he had been working on Tiny he mentioned the castle view suite then showed me photo's on his phone. The only view of the castle is if you stand on the roof

[hibby6270]

Will the new Tynie stand be anything like My Little Pony's Castle?

There will be a passing resemblance. They are after all both pink.

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[Iain G]

Don't despair. Remember the good doctor often refers to unnamed investors when megastand funding comes up. Maybe Agent romanov is still around? 6.5% interest is still a decent return[emoji6]

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We can all name one of the sources of cash, the Lady Haig Poppy Fund... :wink:

[Ozyhibby]

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[Bostonhibby]

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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJust reminded me about the patchwork quilt bit. Looks like they weren't joking and they're leaving it like that. Unique and sophisticated.

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[jacomo]

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But Craig says they've played their last game at Murrayfield so it must be true.

What a horror show.

[G B Young]

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Yep, almost ready!

[snooky]

Hearts joy as the new "Castle View Lounge" at Tynecastle is opened at last.

http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper#/media/File%3ALunch-atop-a-skyscraper-c1932.jpg (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper#/media/File%3ALunch-atop-a-skyscraper-c1932.jpg)

[Crazyhorse]

They're now selling tickets for the next 5 home games, at Tynie. Looks like they're finally getting it (partially) open.

Yeah its an interesting one. In terms of numbers of tickets they can actually sell to normal punters in the ground a jambo informs me that the capacity is approx. 17500. He is quite sure about this and(quite rightly in my view) doesn't seem too bothered, they needed to replace the old main stand etc. But if we calculate 500 seats for; team officials, directors, the press, disabled spaces, behind the police box, etc, that leaves 2000 hospitality seats to make it a 20k capacity stadium. I can't see where they are fitting all them in. Originally I thought they might get up to 19,700 in Tiny but I would think 19,300 is more accurate and a "sell out" figure is always going to be under 19k.

The huge amount of money they have spent to build this is going to set them back several season on the pitch and that is going to hit attendances - a vicious circle in the short to medium term.

[Sammy7nil]

Seems typically Hearts. How is sinking the dugouts going to improve views? Views of football boots?

Might it be for fans behind the dug out ?

[snooky]

Might it be for fans behind the dug out ?

They're going back to their grass roots it would appear.

[Sammy7nil]

Biscuits was back tracking yesterday saying the stand would be good / fine but still has some way to go.

He did mention the escalator and lifts and Castle View Lounge though :greengrin

Then went on to say the only direct debit that made him smile was the one to FOH it was well worth it and Anne Budges monthly news letters are great :greengrin

[Kato]

Biscuits was back tracking yesterday saying the stand would be good / fine but still has some way to go.

He did mention the escalator and lifts and Castle View Lounge though :greengrin

Then went on to say the only direct debit that made him smile was the one to FOH it was well worth it and Anne Budges monthly news letters are great :greengrin

99% fawning guff on the radio yesterday. Asked Budge some tricky questions but didn't press her to actually answer them properly, which she didn't. The rest was the usual "magnificent megastand" nonsense.

[Iain G]

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Is that the dugouts arrived now? :greengrin

Seriously, 13 days and a lot of work to complete and testing and get full sign off on the construction side and get a safety certificate?

No chance if it's all done properly :agree:

[Hibernia&Alba]

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I still can't get over the red cladding.
"It should be maroon ken"
"Baws, this'll dae"

[greenginger]

I've got some info. for the good Doctor Budge.

Just done an accurate dot count from their season ticket web page and get a figure of 5528 for the new stand.

Add to that 300 premium seats behind the directors box, 62 private box seats behind them, and 810 lounge access seats , gives the new stand capacity 6700 without counting directors box/media /toilets.

The other 3 stands are supposed to hold 12,809 but I think that's a slight over-estimate, even taking their figure the capacity would be 19,509.

Tiny Tynie right enough. :greengrin

[MrSmith]

Their stand does look pretty cool but they need to realise its only brick, mortar and steel! Its a one tier stand with an added conservatory, where they get mega-stand from is beyond me?? And, as for the vomitories, they are specifically used in regard to a coliseum - I definitely do not see a coliseum in Gorgie. However, I'm going out with a few Hearts supporting mates next weekend and will have a note book on hand to note the amount of Budge-esque words, statements and fantasies they use. Plus will need to note in all the realities and true evidence relating to being asked to 'prove' my info as factual when contradicting their version of the truth.

[Alan62]

19,509 seems pretty near 22,000 to me and those latest pics suggest work is almost complete. I fear this thread may be reaching its end. Oh wait, ...

[G B Young]

The interiors are looking world-class...and just a baw-hair from completion!!

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I especially love that shade of 70s residential care home pink.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Might it be for fans behind the dug out ?That would make too much sense [emoji85]

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[iwasthere1972]

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Looks as complete as the other three stands. Looking good and ready for chip frying.

[Alan62]

The interiors are looking world-class...and just a baw-hair from completion!!

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2017_11/339354C4-94D9-45FC-8AD5-6C6DFAFD6E19.thumb.jpeg.b036f75808bb59f0e65af081dc 2c900c.jpeg

I especially love that shade of 70s residential care home pink.

'Care home pink' sums this up perfectly. I'm impressed with the way that the breeze block moves seamlessly to plasterboard in this shot. In fact, I almost didn't notice and had to study it carefully to see the join. I'm so glad that Queen Anne insisted on upgrading the serveries. Can't wait to see the bogs.

Wonder if the serving staff will be rigged out in maroon and care-home-pink outfits?

[Peevemor]

The 'carehome pink' that we can see is the colour of Gyproc fireline board - it's to easily distinguish it from standard plasterboard.

[Alan62]

Stop spoiling the fun, Peevemor.


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[McSwanky]

The 'carehome pink' that we can see is the colour of Gyproc fireline board - it's to easily distinguish it from standard plasterboard.

So they've still got to paint it?

"Someone get me Ian Black's mobile number, pronto!"

[greenlex]

The 'carehome pink' that we can see is the colour of Gyproc fireline board - it's to easily distinguish it from standard plasterboard.

Surprised they’re bothering to be honest.

[Peevemor]

Surprised they’re bothering to be honest.

We can read that two ways - both of which are appropriate.

[MB62]

'Care home pink' sums this up perfectly. I'm impressed with the way that the breeze block moves seamlessly to plasterboard in this shot. In fact, I almost didn't notice and had to study it carefully to see the join. I'm so glad that Queen Anne insisted on upgrading the serveries. Can't wait to see the bogs.

Wonder if the serving staff will be rigged out in maroon and care-home-pink outfits?

According to Alan Preston? on the radio yesterday, the toilets are going to be 'FULLY FUNCTIONAL' (his description) in this new £12m stand.
Now that's what I call impressive :wink: :faf:

[Alan62]

According to Alan Preston? on the radio yesterday, the toilets are going to be 'FULLY FUNCTIONAL' (his description) in this new £12m stand.
Now that's what I call impressive :wink: :faf:

What? No. Flushing and everything. Sheesh! I'm so jealous.

[Clerie Green]

According to Alan Preston? on the radio yesterday, the toilets are going to be 'FULLY FUNCTIONAL' (his description) in this new £12m stand.
Now that's what I call impressive :wink: :faf:
They will need to be if they are watching that keek !:thumbsup:

[Bostonhibby]

We can read that two ways - both of which are appropriate.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Best post on what has been a stonker of a thread.

Made my day [emoji106]

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[Bostonhibby]

What? No. Flushing and everything. Sheesh! I'm so jealous.If there's a man that knows what a fully functional toilet looks like it's him.

A career spent talking the finer points of waste disposal when the folk that pay his wages thought he was a football commentator.

Do any other football teams in the world have toilets that work or is this another first that they'll be hyping quite soon before announcing the latest non completion date (delay is such an unsophisticated word for such a highly sophisticated design).
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[Arch Stanton]

They're now selling tickets for the next 5 home games, at Tynie. Looks like they're finally getting it (partially) open.

Not necessarilly. If it still isn't ready I reckon they will just start postponing games.

[WoreTheGreen]

So they've still got to paint it?

"Someone get me Ian Black's mobile number, pronto!"

My first read i thought it said panto which made think which of snow whites little helpers would he be. Dopey?

[ancient hibee]

Presumably if they have the best lavs in the world they’ll be flushed with success.

[WoreTheGreen]

Presumably if they have the best lavs in the world they’ll be flushed with success.

But do these bogs come with seats?

[OxoHibby]

Looks as complete as the other three stands. Looking good and ready for chip frying.

Have the fryers started a fire that burnt that bit down?

[OxoHibby]

According to Alan Preston? on the radio yesterday, the toilets are going to be 'FULLY FUNCTIONAL' (his description) in this new £12m stand.
Now that's what I call impressive :wink: :faf:

Hahahaha imagine in the 21st century being able to make toilets work. Truly world class

[McSwanky]

Have the fryers started a fire that burnt that bit down?

Insurance job?

:hmmm:

There might yet be a way out of this for Mrs Budge...

[Iain G]

Hahahaha imagine in the 21st century being able to make toilets work. Truly world class

Sounds like a lot of old ballcocks to me...

[Springbank]

Not necessarilly. If it still isn't ready I reckon they will just start postponing games.

Now i'm not usually a cynic, but a convenient postponement, or two, while they have an injury crisis, and a confidence crisis...well.well.well....

[G B Young]

Not necessarilly. If it still isn't ready I reckon they will just start postponing games.

Can they do that though? I mean, does 'our new stand's still not ready and Murrayfield's not available this weekend' count as a valid reason for postponement? I'd have thought they'd incur at least a fine, if not docked points for that.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Can they do that though? I mean, does 'our new stand's still not ready and Murrayfield's not available this weekend' count as a valid reason for postponement? I'd have thought they'd incur at least a fine, if not docked points for that.

Unable to fulfil fixture?

Match awarded to opponents 3-0.

[Crazyhorse]

According to Alan Preston? on the radio yesterday, the toilets are going to be 'FULLY FUNCTIONAL' (his description) in this new £12m stand.
Now that's what I call impressive :wink: :faf:

Harry '****ting it in 1986' Potter will be testing each one personally. Another expert niche role he has at Tiny.

[HibbyDave]

There will be a further announcement in a day or two....... Blah, Blah, Blah but essentially we wont be ready till the year end. (ish).


NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS WILD STATEMENT but I'm sure that Dr B will be along soon to contradict me if I'm wrong.
Watch this space.

[Tobias Funke]

I’m completely blown away by how insipid and cheap the whole project looks. World class according to Kiwidoug as well. What a total balloon that boy is.

[Jack Hackett]

I’m completely blown away by how insipid and cheap the whole project looks. World class according to Kiwidoug as well. What a total balloon that boy is.


When you take into consideration just how 'tiny' their world is over the road, it probably is.

[greenginger]

There will be a further announcement in a day or two....... Blah, Blah, Blah but essentially we wont be ready till the year end. (ish).


NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS WILD STATEMENT but I'm sure that Dr B will be along soon to contradict me if I'm wrong.
Watch this space.

I stopped by in Mcleod Street about 4PM today. The piazza or what ever they call it and the Gorgie end exit are nearly complete but the Roseburn end has a good bit to go .

While I was there Doctor Budge emerged from the world class erection with 2 or 3 builder boss looking chappies.

Under her maroon hard hat she had a face like thunder so that might be an indication of progress inside or maybe she's just been told of more additional costs and the Gorgie coo's been milked dry. :greengrin

[Crazyhorse]

The other 3 stands are supposed to hold 12,809 but I think that's a slight over-estimate :greengrin

I think you are right it is a bit lower.
See http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/pages/historytynecastlestadium

Figures seem to be:
Wheatfield - 5902
Roseburn - 3436
Gorgie - 3160

Total - 12598

Tiny is going to look a lot better but they seem to have spend so much (circa £15m) to raise capacity so little.

[HibbyDave]

I stopped by in Mcleod Street about 4PM today. The piazza or what ever they call it and the Gorgie end exit are nearly complete but the Roseburn end has a good bit to go .

While I was there Doctor Budge emerged from the world class erection with 2 or 3 builder boss looking chappies.

Under her maroon hard hat she had a face like thunder so that might be an indication of LACK OF progress inside or maybe she's just been told of more additional costs and the Gorgie coo's been milked dry. :greengrin


Hmmm.... fixed that for you. Of course she may just look like that every day?


They appointed a window cleaner too. Hope they agreed a fee up front.

[Pete]

“Piazza”. 🤣

Talk about giving their mind a treat.

The only piazza’s round there will be cheese and tomato ones.

[greenginger]

I think you are right it is a bit lower.
See http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/pages/historytynecastlestadium

Figures seem to be:
Wheatfield - 5902
Roseburn - 3436
Gorgie - 3160

Total - 12598

Tiny is going to look a lot better but they seem to have spend so much (circa £15m) to raise capacity so little.

I got the figures from the new stand planning application - stadium exiting statement.

That has, Wheatfield - 5918
Roseburn - 3551
Gorgie - 3340

That's 12,809 but if anyone fancies doing a dot count.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Karma I believe it's called...
Shafted businesses and charities galore and now they've been stung for £15M!
What have they got to show for it?
A cheap as 'chips' dreary stand based on the early 1990s design of their other three stands with a crappy office block bolted on to the front of it, giving them world class views of a modern studies classroom.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Piazza - they think they are building an Italian masterpiece. It's a dump in Gorgie.

[Craig_HFC]

Winning there will be a piazza piss if their current form continues

[lapsedhibee]

Just reminded me about the patchwork quilt bit. Looks like they weren't joking and they're leaving it like that. Unique and sophisticated.


Quilt bit? Quilt bit? Shirley that's a patchwork curtain wall, or have I misunderstood that concept?

[WoreTheGreen]

Parmazan with yir chips son?

[Bostonhibby]

Quilt bit? Quilt bit? Shirley that's a patchwork curtain wall, or have I misunderstood that concept?Who knows? We are but hobos who are used to a straightforward trouble free built stadium with none of the hype.

It'll be a sophisticated design of a curtain wall. Made up of all the bits the supplier had lying around ☺

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[RoYO!]

When's Nick Knowles due on site again?!

[G B Young]

Unable to fulfil fixture?

Match awarded to opponents 3-0.

Is there precedent for that? I'm not seeing that mentioned here:

Non-fulfilment of Fixture Obligations
G46 No Club shall, unless the circumstances of the failure are outside the control of theClub concerned and could not have been reasonably foreseen and reasonablyanticipated and remedied prior to the match, fail to fulfil its fixture obligations inrespect of any League Match or Play-Off Match on and at the appointed or, as thecase may be, rescheduled date, time and venue.
G47 For the purposes of Rules G5 and G46 a representation by a Club that it will not orintends not to fulfil a fixture obligation or that it will do so only subject to acondition or conditions which are or are found to be unacceptable to the Boardshall be deemed to be in breach of Rule G5 notwithstanding that the Board has ormay have rescheduled or later reschedules the match concerned.
G48 Without prejudice to any other sanctions, which may be imposed for a breach ofRules, a Club failing to fulfil a fixture obligation in terms of Rules G5 and/or G46shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses necessarily incurred by theopposing Club as a direct result of the failure. The amount of such compensationwill be at the discretion of the Board which will consider every such case on itsmerits.

[jacomo]

Is there precedent for that? I'm not seeing that mentioned here:

Non-fulfilment of Fixture Obligations
G46 No Club shall, unless the circumstances of the failure are outside the control of theClub concerned and could not have been reasonably foreseen and reasonablyanticipated and remedied prior to the match, fail to fulfil its fixture obligations inrespect of any League Match or Play-Off Match on and at the appointed or, as thecase may be, rescheduled date, time and venue.
G47 For the purposes of Rules G5 and G46 a representation by a Club that it will not orintends not to fulfil a fixture obligation or that it will do so only subject to acondition or conditions which are or are found to be unacceptable to the Boardshall be deemed to be in breach of Rule G5 notwithstanding that the Board has ormay have rescheduled or later reschedules the match concerned.
G48 Without prejudice to any other sanctions, which may be imposed for a breach ofRules, a Club failing to fulfil a fixture obligation in terms of Rules G5 and/or G46shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses necessarily incurred by theopposing Club as a direct result of the failure. The amount of such compensationwill be at the discretion of the Board which will consider every such case on itsmerits.


Dear SFA,

Despite my status as a *particularly* successful businesswoman, I have run this project like a rank amateur. I even forgot to order the seats!

Couldn't have seen that coming!!

Free pass please.

Yours,
Dr Ann Budge

P.s. You don't know any good electricians do you?

[Nameless]

Why does she get the moniker "Dr" on here?

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[gaz1875]

I stopped by in Mcleod Street about 4PM today. The piazza or what ever they call it and the Gorgie end exit are nearly complete but the Roseburn end has a good bit to go .

While I was there Doctor Budge emerged from the world class erection with 2 or 3 builder boss looking chappies.

Under her maroon hard hat she had a face like thunder so that might be an indication of progress inside or maybe she's just been told of more additional costs and the Gorgie coo's been milked dry. :greengrin

How on earth could you tell the difference from her normal face :greengrin

[fat freddy]

Why does she get the moniker "Dr" on here?

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She got an honoury doctorate from the University of Dalry in recognition of her services to the revival of 1960's architecture

[Joe6-2]

“Piazza”. 🤣

Talk about giving their mind a treat.

The only piazza’s round there will be cheese and tomato ones.

Hey, with chips!!

[Nameless]

She got an honoury doctorate from the University of Dalry in recognition of her services to the revival of 1960's architectureBut of course - I must have missed the EEN souvenir special covering the ceremony :-)

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[Crazyhorse]

I got the figures from the new stand planning application - stadium exiting statement.

That has, Wheatfield - 5918
Roseburn - 3551
Gorgie - 3340

That's 12,809 but if anyone fancies doing a dot count.

Who knows what the real figures are they seem to be rather concocted for the new stand anyway. The Roseburn and Gorgie stands lost several rows of seats when they extended the pitch I think which seem to be the figures that the hearts webpage is using - hence the lower stand capacities.
A dotcount would be interesting but I doubt any jambos will want to know the result. I suspect the total number of tickets available for sale will be about 1000 less than Easter Rd...

[Ozyhibby]

Who knows what the real figures are they seem to be rather concocted for the new stand anyway. The Roseburn and Gorgie stands lost several rows of seats when they extended the pitch I think which seem to be the figures that the hearts webpage is using - hence the lower stand capacities.
A dotcount would be interesting but I doubt any jambos will want to know the result. I suspect the total number of tickets available for sale will be about 1000 less than Easter Rd...

They lost seats in the wheatfield when they put in the new temp tunnel.


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[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Piazza. Are fans actually gonna chuck that into their every day chat do we think? I'll often txt my mate saying "get you at the club shop at 2.45pm", for example. Are they going to be on the lads whatsapp group spouting guff like "catch you on the piazza at the back of 2". What a bunch of fuds.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The interiors are looking world-class...and just a baw-hair from completion!!

http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2017_11/339354C4-94D9-45FC-8AD5-6C6DFAFD6E19.thumb.jpeg.b036f75808bb59f0e65af081dc 2c900c.jpeg

I especially love that shade of 70s residential care home pink.

This picture is obviously 'fake news' you can clearly see breeze blocks in the photo and we all know the mega stand doesn't employ such cheap and nasty materials.

[Bostonhibby]

This picture is obviously 'fake news' you can clearly see breeze blocks in the photo and we all know the mega stand doesn't employ such cheap and nasty materials.These are NOT breeze blocks. They're hearts blocks. They're like breeze blocks only much thicker.

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[G B Young]

Dear SFA,

Despite my status as a *particularly* successful businesswoman, I have run this project like a rank amateur. I even forgot to order the seats!

Couldn't have seen that coming!!

Free pass please.

Yours,
Dr Ann Budge

P.s. You don't know any good electricians do you?

I note that on kickback somebody has posed the question about contingency plans if the stand really were to fail its safety test ahead of the Partick game. No sign of anybody providing a response - presumably because there isn't a plan!

[Moulin Yarns]

I note that on kickback somebody has posed the question about contingency plans if the stand really were to fail its safety test ahead of the Partick game. No sign of anybody providing a response - presumably because there isn't a plan!

Don't panic Pike.

[Ozyhibby]

If Levein has been brought in earlier they would have only needed three stands.


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[MyJo]

Why does she get the moniker "Dr" on here?

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She has received honorary degrees from universities that technically allow her to use the title of Dr.

It's customary that recipients of honorary doctorates don't actually use the title out of respect for those who worked for several years to earn the same qualification but Dr Budge has no such qualms.

[Killiehibbie]

She has received honorary degrees from universities that technically allow her to use the title of Dr.

It's customary that recipients of honorary doctorates don't actually use the title out of respect for those who worked for several years to earn the same qualification but Dr Budge has no such qualms.Is it not phd level before you get to use the title?

[Bostonhibby]

If Levein has been brought in earlier they would have only needed three stands.


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[Crazyhorse]

Is it not phd level before you get to use the title?

Indeed the Philosophiae Doctor (PhD) is a title granted after a period of study usually 3-4 years full time where you complete a research project and submit a thesis which makes an original contribution to knowledge. It's a hard slog for most people.

The honorary PhD's handed out by universities are largely now a marketing/publicity exercise, e.g. Swansea awarding one to Hilary Clinton to get a 30 second slot on the six o'clock news. Hilary will not be styling herself Dr Clinton, usually only narcissistic oddballs would actually use the title if they hadn't actually completed a real PhD programme.

There is a third way to 'achieve' the title and that is by what is effectively a correspondence course with a dodgy institution. A celebrated example would be Rev Dr Ian R K Paisley's award from that celebrated white supremacist institution the Bob Jones University. I think it cost him $50 and I assume the ceremonial graduation gown was full KKK regalia.

[FilipinoHibs]

Indeed the Philosophiae Doctor (PhD) is a title granted after a period of study usually 3-4 years full time where you complete a research project and submit a thesis which makes an original contribution to knowledge. It's a hard slog for most people.

The honorary PhD's handed out by universities are largely now a marketing/publicity exercise, e.g. Swansea awarding one to Hilary Clinton to get a 30 second slot on the six o'clock news. Hilary will not be styling herself Dr Clinton, usually only narcissistic oddballs would actually use the title if they hadn't actually completed a real PhD programme.

There is a third way to 'achieve' the title and that is by what is effectively a correspondence course with a dodgy institution. A celebrated example would be Rev Dr Ian R K Paisley's award from that celebrated white supremacist institution the Bob Jones University. I think it cost him $50 and I assume the ceremonial graduation gown was full KKK regalia.
Yes you face a
gruelling question session from experts. Imagine the Doc of Dalry being subjected to that!

[Danderhall Hibs]

Yes you face a
gruelling question session from experts. Imagine the Doc of Dalry being subjected to that!

Was the statement the other week not a thesis? Felt long enough.

Not her fault that the questioning hasn’t been up to scratch.

[Billy Whizz]

If Levein has been brought in earlier they would have only needed three stands.


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Ha ha
Bet you regret not playing in front of 3 stands now

[Iain G]

Was the statement the other week not a thesis? Felt long enough.

Not her fault that the questioning hasn’t been up to scratch.

Meanwhile back at the Piazza....

How is the final testing going, you know that one that takes 3 weeks prior to opening for the first game, they must be part of the way through it by now?

[GreenCastle]

They have added a cheap looking car park barrier to the front.

Obviously couldn’t afford the retractable bollards.

I still don’t think it has full power yet - seems still temp lights inside.

Going to be hilarious if they can’t play the next game at the PBS.

They are desperate for it to be played as they don’t have an alternative.

[--------]

She has received honorary degrees from universities that technically allow her to use the title of Dr.

It's customary that recipients of honorary doctorates don't actually use the title out of respect for those who worked for several years to earn the same qualification but Dr Budge has no such qualms.

From Wikipedia:

"Budge was awarded "Entrepreneur of the Year" by the Entrepreneurial Exchange in 2005 and was then inducted into the Entrepreneurial Exchange Hall of Fame in November 2013. She is listed as a role model by the Women's Engineering Society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Engineering_Society).
Ann is an Honorary Graduate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_degree) of Heriot-Watt University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heriot-Watt_University) and Edinburgh Napier University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Napier_University)."

No offence, but are those REAL Universities? Surely they're just technical colleges for the sons and daughters of the artisan classes?

Not real universities. :rolleyes:

And how can a woman think of studying engineering when most of them can't work out how the simple hinge that is the toilet seat works?

:devil:

[Iain G]

From Wikipedia:

"Budge was awarded "Entrepreneur of the Year" by the Entrepreneurial Exchange in 2005 and was then inducted into the Entrepreneurial Exchange Hall of Fame in November 2013. She is listed as a role model by the Women's Engineering Society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Engineering_Society).
Ann is an Honorary Graduate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_degree) of Heriot-Watt University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heriot-Watt_University) and Edinburgh Napier University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Napier_University)."

No offence, but are those REAL Universities? Surely they're just technical colleges for the sons and daughters of the artisan classes?

Not real universities. :rolleyes:

And how can a woman think of studying engineering when most of them can't work out how the simple hinge that is the toilet seat works?

:devil:

Heriot-Watt is a real university, I know as I spent 4 years there getting real drunk; Napier is just a rebranded Polytech however :greengrin

[--------]

Heriot-Watt is a real university, I know as I spent 4 years there getting real drunk; Napier is just a rebranded Polytech however :greengrin


OK, I'll just give you H-W; it's been around for a while.

But I have to say that IMO if you can remember your time at University, you really weren't there.

Ah, Sandy Bell's .....

:cheers: :partyhibb :cheers: :cheers: :party::partyhibb :party: :sick: :Awright!:

[Iain G]

OK, I'll just give you H-W; it's been around for a while.

But I have to say that IMO if you can remember your time at University, you really weren't there.

Ah, Sandy Bell's .....

:cheers: :partyhibb :cheers: :cheers: :party::partyhibb :party: :sick: :Awright!:

Well I got a bit paper that says I was there :greengrin

[greenginger]

Heriot-Watt is a real university, I know as I spent 4 years there getting real drunk; Napier is just a rebranded Polytech however :greengrin


Oi ! Napier College of Science and Technology if you please.

4 years of night school is how we got our qualifications in them days, and nae beer !:grr:

[Brummie_Hibs]

Queen Margaret's rulez!!!

[JohnMcM]

Oi ! Napier College of Science and Technology if you please.

4 years of night school is how we got our qualifications in them days, and nae beer !:grr:

With an extra 5 years for my Masters I'll have u know.:offski:

[Crazyhorse]

Queen Margaret's rulez!!!

Tom Farmer has an honorary doctorate from there I think. Doesn't style himself as Dr Farmer as far as I know...

[Seveno]

Tom Farmer has an honorary doctorate from there I think. Doesn't style himself as Dr Farmer as far as I know...

Sir Tom Farmer hardly needs a Dr in front of his name. He also had a Papal knighthood and the Polish equivalent.

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Well I got a bit paper that says I was there :greengrin


At MY University we got 'parchments' to tell us how brainy we were.

In Latin and all.

Rolled up and stuffed in a choob.

I still cannae remember what I was supposed to be studying.

I know I learned how to home-brew a beer that could make you blind.

And a number of novel and interesting facts about young ladies. :devil:

And older ones too. :devil:

[tamig]

Tom Farmer has an honorary doctorate from there I think. Doesn't style himself as Dr Farmer as far as I know...

Sir Tom was also the Chancellor of Queen Margaret.

[MyJo]

Sir Tom Farmer hardly needs a Dr in front of his name. He also had a Papal knighthood and the Polish equivalent.

Pretty much sums up both clubs :agree:

Hearts grasping for any sort of reason to lord it over people and giving themselves self-congratulatory nicknames like the big team and the famous thinking themselves far more important than they actually are owned by Dr Budge.

While we have an owner with a knighthood and more letters after his name than you can shake a stick at earned through a lifetime of business acheivement and charitable virtue

[HoboHarry]

At MY University we got 'parchments' to tell us how brainy we were.

In Latin and all.

Rolled up and stuffed in a choob.

I still cannae remember what I was supposed to be studying.

I know I learned how to home-brew a beer that could make you blind.

And a number of novel and interesting facts about young ladies. :devil:

And older ones too. :devil:

Joe Harper could probably be described as a choob that has been rolled up and stuffed............

:greengrin

[--------]

Joe Harper could probably be described as a choob that has been rolled up and stuffed............

:greengrin


If only ....

[Bostonhibby]

Pretty much sums up both clubs :agree:

Hearts grasping for any sort of reason to lord it over people and giving themselves self-congratulatory nicknames like the big team and the famous thinking themselves far more important than they actually are owned by Dr Budge.

While we have an owner with a knighthood and more letters after his name than you can shake a stick at earned through a lifetime of business acheivement and charitable virtueAgree. They're probably queuing up for surgery they're that stupid. And paying for it.

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[Joe6-2]

Was the statement the other week not a thesis? Felt long enough.

Not her fault that the questioning hasn’t been up to scratch.

She would fall at the first hurdle for spelling errors

[Peevemor]

The crests on the seats are looking nice and wonky. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/97888bf91b7fbf76a2bcb2f976617ca0.jpg

[Keith_M]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/8a5829a118c0ac45bc9edbd710bd8a49.jpg
13 days to go.


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I think you'll find it's actually 59 days overdue

[lapsedhibee]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/97888bf91b7fbf76a2bcb2f976617ca0.jpg

Why is the sole owner Ann Budge referring to herself as "We"? Has she started to beLIEve the simple fans' "queen" chat?

[McSwanky]

The crests on the seats are looking nice and wonky. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/97888bf91b7fbf76a2bcb2f976617ca0.jpgWho's the guy in the middle in the clown shoes?

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[Peevemor]

Who's the guy in the middle in the clown shoes?

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He's the guy that's building the stand.

[SirDavidsNapper]

That looks great. Winter matches are going to be special as you approach down McLeod Street. Hopefully we light up the ground with the football as well.*


Drugs are bad kids

[SirDavidsNapper]

It looked really good, much better than the photo. Was chatting to a guy coming off site, and he said that the insides are going to be absolutely stunning, at least the equal of anything in Scotland,*and the actual stand itself is quite breathtaking to sit in.*

More drugs. If you're used to a crumbling wooden asbestos stand then I suppose it would be breathtaking

[SirDavidsNapper]

*

That is beautius. European night games will be special at 7.45 when*all lit up.

😂😂

[fat freddy]

Who's the guy in the middle in the clown shoes?

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Project Manager, he won the job in a raffle at a Hearts fundraiser. The boys made a decent fist of the job to be fair

[Bostonhibby]

Project Manager, he won the job in a raffle at a Hearts fundraiser. The boys made a decent fist of the job to be fair

:agree: Apparently he's got his own pens, a pencil, and a sharpener. Mrs Budge is going to announce this significant leap forward in her next sermon.

[G B Young]

Who's the guy in the middle in the clown shoes?

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I thought it was Cathro being reappointed for a moment.

[jacomo]

*

That is beautius. European night games will be special at 7.45 when*all lit up.

😂😂


Bless.

[Sammy7nil]

Who's the guy in the middle in the clown shoes?

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Mike Magic Man Russell is he a Jambo or just doing a clown impersonation

[monktonharp]

I think you'll find it's actually 59 days overdueis this photo in the ground,or outside/:confused:

[Big90inOz]

Are they installing washed out seating ? Is that the latest craze like denim ? The seats look like they have been in the sun for years, I wonder if they are recycled..............

The badges look honking on the seats :greengrin

[HibeesLA]

'Care home pink' sums this up perfectly. I'm impressed with the way that the breeze block moves seamlessly to plasterboard in this shot. In fact, I almost didn't notice and had to study it carefully to see the join. I'm so glad that Queen Anne insisted on upgrading the serveries. Can't wait to see the bogs.

Wonder if the serving staff will be rigged out in maroon and care-home-pink outfits?

Your wish has been granted:

19641

[Hibernia&Alba]

Your wish has been granted:

19641

That's just like the bathroom of every Jambo I know.

[BSEJVT]

Cant believe they have used MDF on the lavatorium's panels I would have thought it would have been individual glass curtain's and gold taps

[McSwanky]

Your wish has been granted:

19641Truly world class. Cludgies to be proud of, etc etc etc.

I've just realised what the Jambo hordes remind me of now. Donald Trump. "We have the best toilets, nobody has ever seen toilets like these before. Amazing!"



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[iwasthere1972]

is this photo in the ground,or outside/:confused:

Taken from the moon.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

It looked really good, much better than the photo. Was chatting to a guy coming off site, and he said that the insides are going to be absolutely stunning, at least the equal of anything in Scotland,*and the actual stand itself is quite breathtaking to sit in.*

More drugs. If you're used to a crumbling wooden asbestos stand then I suppose it would be breathtaking

An absolute replica of their 25 year old Wheatfield shed. Absolutely breathtaking

[scoopyboy]

Are they installing washed out seating ? Is that the latest craze like denim ? The seats look like they have been in the sun for years, I wonder if they are recycled..............

The badges look honking on the seats :greengrin

They've no taken the plastic bags off them yet lol, as if that's gonnas change things

[Iain G]

Sir Tom Farmer hardly needs a Dr in front of his name. He also had a Papal knighthood and the Polish equivalent.

Where Mrs Budge has a PayPal Doctorate.... :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Are they going to issue away fans protective glasses when they visit the erseholedome?

It's a serious question as I don't imagine many football fans in Scotland will have seen a one tier stand with shiny plastic seats and a bit white steel across the top of it.

I appreciate that their regular proclamations about it are giving the public fair warning but it could still cause a few medical emergencies when the sheer scale of this is finally revealed.

No wonder they're keeping the plastic bags on until the very end and are naming everything in Latin so as to keep it all secret until the big reveal.

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[Iain G]

Truly world class. Cludgies to be proud of, etc etc etc.

I've just realised what the Jambo hordes remind me of now. Donald Trump. "We have the best toilets, nobody has ever seen toilets like these before. Amazing!"



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Heart of Midlothian, setting a new Bog Standard since 1874 :agree:

[GreenCastle]

The crests on the seats are looking nice and wonky. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/97888bf91b7fbf76a2bcb2f976617ca0.jpg

Looks ready to host a game - just like the pink toilets.

[G B Young]

It looked really good, much better than the photo. Was chatting to a guy coming off site, and he said that the insides are going to be absolutely stunning, at least the equal of anything in Scotland,*and the actual stand itself is quite breathtaking to sit in.*

More drugs. If you're used to a crumbling wooden asbestos stand then I suppose it would be breathtaking

Bit of a climbdown from 'world class' then...

[Iain G]

Away down in Gorgie is Tynecastle Park
With a "World Class" stand that is miles from the mark,
It's seats are still missing and it's leaking in parts,
Aye there’s nae other stand to compare with the Hearts'

H-E-A-R-T-S
If you cannae spell it then here’s what it says
Hearts Hearts poor delayed Hearts
It’s down at Tynecastle they bodge
The talk of dot net is it's not ready yet
While Anne Budge exploits them with pride
This is their story this is their song
Built by the Hearts it's sure to go wrong
Pies are for sale at Celtic, Killie and Hibs,
but way down in Gorgie they've all had their chips

Some souwester caps we can always supply,
or buy a Hearts brolly to keep your heid dry,
If we had the time we could hang all the doors,
but we'd have to speed up and complete some of the floors

We’ve raised architectural standards with our curtain wall,
But we've no stairwell handrails so we hope you don't fall,
The piazza is paved and in there's a shock,
We've constructed our badge out of old monoblock

[calumhibee1]

Seems to be dawning on some folk on kickback that they’ve been lied to again. The stadium apparently could have been ready for Kilmarnock but they didn’t want to risk it... yet it’s now Wednesday after the Killie game and they still haven’t fitted all the seats, the end of the actual stand structure still isn’t finished, dugouts aren’t in etc. They were never going to make the Kilmarnock game. Just like they were never going to make all the other deadlines they’ve given.

[Benny Brazil]

Away down in Gorgie is Tynecastle Park
With a "World Class" stand that is miles from the mark,
It's seats are still missing and it's leaking in parts,
Aye there’s nae other stand to compare with the Hearts'

H-E-A-R-T-S
If you cannae spell it then here’s what it says
Hearts Hearts poor delayed Hearts
It’s down at Tynecastle they bodge
The talk of dot net is it's not ready yet
While Anne Budge exploits them with pride
This is their story this is their song
Built by the Hearts it's sure to go wrong
Pies are for sale at Celtic, Killie and Hibs,
but way down in Gorgie they've all had their chips

Some souwester caps we can always supply,
or buy a Hearts brolly to keep your heid dry,
If we had the time we could hang all the doors,
but we'd have to speed up and complete some of the floors

We’ve raised architectural standards with our curtain wall,
But we've no stairwell handrails so we hope you don't fall,
The piazza is paved and in there's a shock,
We've constructed our badge out of old monoblock

:not worth

[greenpaper55]

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Will that be the way the office windows are lit once the stand's open? ie will you be able to see people working and assorted office furniture etc? I had thought the purpose of the glass curtain was to present a kind of seamless screen that you wouldn't actually be able to see through? That seemed to be what the original plans showed before they were scaled back:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwM9PO_fomRqsQXE3R7q2OF4I52ox3O KZjbBvUxfz7-b110EiAlA


This Jambo got a telling off for looking at the stand at night time, apparently the curtain wall magically appears in daylight !

[IWasThere2016]

Away down in Gorgie is Tynecastle Park
With a "World Class" stand that is miles from the mark,
It's seats are still missing and it's leaking in parts,
Aye there’s nae other stand to compare with the Hearts'

H-E-A-R-T-S
If you cannae spell it then here’s what it says
Hearts Hearts poor delayed Hearts
It’s down at Tynecastle they bodge
The talk of dot net is it's not ready yet
While Anne Budge exploits them with pride
This is their story this is their song
Built by the Hearts it's sure to go wrong
Pies are for sale at Celtic, Killie and Hibs,
but way down in Gorgie they've all had their chips

Some souwester caps we can always supply,
or buy a Hearts brolly to keep your heid dry,
If we had the time we could hang all the doors,
but we'd have to speed up and complete some of the floors

We’ve raised architectural standards with our curtain wall,
But we've no stairwell handrails so we hope you don't fall,
The piazza is paved and in there's a shock,
We've constructed our badge out of old monoblock

LOVE IT! :top marks

[CapitalGreen]

https://random.carrd.co/assets/images/gallery01/12_original.jpg?v95297968800151 (https://random.carrd.co/assets/images/gallery01/12_original.jpg?v95297968800151)


Will that be the way the office windows are lit once the stand's open? ie will you be able to see people working and assorted office furniture etc? I had thought the purpose of the glass curtain was to present a kind of seamless screen that you wouldn't actually be able to see through? That seemed to be what the original plans showed before they were scaled back:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwM9PO_fomRqsQXE3R7q2OF4I52ox3O KZjbBvUxfz7-b110EiAlA


This Jambo got a telling off for looking at the stand at night time, apparently the curtain wall magically appears in daylight !

Looks like hoops when lit from inside, such a design may have been more suitable in Glasgow's East End.

[Salt N Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/JamesEllis1804/status/928194803824816133

Hilarious.

[Thecat23]

https://twitter.com/JamesEllis1804/status/928194803824816133

Hilarious.

😂 hope you don’t mind I’ve posted that link on my twitter! Lovely views.

[G B Young]

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Will that be the way the office windows are lit once the stand's open? ie will you be able to see people working and assorted office furniture etc? I had thought the purpose of the glass curtain was to present a kind of seamless screen that you wouldn't actually be able to see through? That seemed to be what the original plans showed before they were scaled back:
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This Jambo got a telling off for looking at the stand at night time, apparently the curtain wall magically appears in daylight !

OK, can we put this one to bed once and for all?? As that pic shows there is NO form of curtain wall. The definition of curtain is 'a piece of suspended material forming a screen'. Now, that artist's impression shows just such a form of screen but as the photo shows there is no such thing in reality. It is, pure and simple, a set of office windows.

Despite this, Budge continues to wax lyrical about the curtain wall. Why is this? Are they planning to add one at a later date?

As others have pointed out, NONE of this would matter in the slightest had Hearts not made such a song and dance about 'the biggest glass curtain wall in Scottish football'. Indeed, had they not made such a song and dance about this stand we wouldn't have had this megathread on the subject.

Those pics showing the 'view' from behind the police control centre sum up what a desperately over-hyped structure this is.

[Hibernia&Alba]

OK, can we put this one to bed once and for all?? As that pic shows there is NO form of curtain wall. The definition of curtain is 'a piece of suspended material forming a screen'. Now, that artist's impression shows just such a form of screen but as the photo shows there is no such thing in reality. It is, pure and simple, a set of office windows.

Despite this, Budge continues to wax lyrical about the curtain wall. Why is this? Are they planning to add one at a later date?

As others have pointed out, NONE of this would matter in the slightest had Hearts not made such a song and dance about 'the biggest glass curtain wall in Scottish football'. Indeed, had they not made such a song and dance about this stand we wouldn't have had this megathread on the subject.

Those pics showing the 'view' from behind the police control centre sum up what a desperately over-hyped structure this is.

Spot on; it's their own self-promotion and big team mentality which yet again makes them subject to ridicule. They always fail to deliver on their words, on and off the pitch.

[CapitalGreen]

The new Tynie entrance isn't very grand is it.

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Especially in comparison to our entrance at Easter Road.

http://www.liberoguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/HibsNEW11.jpg

[Ozyhibby]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171108/8445c8213aa56606637b02a0b8fbbc3b.jpg
11 days to go.
Tomorrow is a big day for them apparently for testing.


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[MrSmith]

https://twitter.com/JamesEllis1804/status/928194803824816133

Wow the pitch hasn't half gotten thinner! I guess they are trying hard to create a run off area to comply with European standards :\

[lapsedhibee]

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What does it say above the badge on the wall? It's not very clear but the second word looks as if it might have four letters in it so I'm thinking maybe "Hogg"?

[Scorrie]

Your wish has been granted:

19641

Is that the lavvy out of the bookies in Trainspotting?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Is that the lavvy out of the bookies in Trainspotting?

A replica and a good effort.

[Iain G]

OK, can we put this one to bed once and for all?? As that pic shows there is NO form of curtain wall. The definition of curtain is 'a piece of suspended material forming a screen'. Now, that artist's impression shows just such a form of screen but as the photo shows there is no such thing in reality. It is, pure and simple, a set of office windows.

Despite this, Budge continues to wax lyrical about the curtain wall. Why is this? Are they planning to add one at a later date?

As others have pointed out, NONE of this would matter in the slightest had Hearts not made such a song and dance about 'the biggest glass curtain wall in Scottish football'. Indeed, had they not made such a song and dance about this stand we wouldn't have had this megathread on the subject.

Those pics showing the 'view' from behind the police control centre sum up what a desperately over-hyped structure this is.

In construction / manufacturer technical speak what they have there would certainly be classed as a curtain wall system. It is a facade that supports nothing but it's own weight (and any loading placed on it from the wind etc) and is connected back to the primary structure.

What it isn't is the lovely architectural Planar glazing system clearly shown in their architectural images.

[Clerie Green]

Pleasing , :thumbsup: