Jeremy Corbyn

[Pretty Boy]

Sometimes in life you just have to put your hands up and say you got it wrong.

I was vocally critical of Jeremy Corbyn, I genuinely believed in his shaky first few months he was going to lead Labour to a catastrophic defeat and return them to the wilderness of the Foot years. Even recently I doubted his ability to put up much of a fight against a Tory party there to be got at.

Whilst it has to be noted he didn't win there is little doubt he fought a brave campaign against a hostile media and began to win round an electorate which ranged from wary to openly hostile, myself included. On his watch Labour produced a genuinely left wing manifesto that has put an ideological debate back on the table in UK politics, he mobilised a vote that had felt disenfranchised in recent years and appealed to new voters. Where he goes now is an interesting question. With the likelihood of us being back at the polls relatively shortly I think he deserves the chance to try and build on his momentum (no pun intended). He needs the Scottish Labour Party t up their game big time and he needs, and deserves, support and loyalty from the PLP to go about his work in being the most effective opposition Labour can be in the meantime.

I'll certainly have no hesitation in getting behind him in the coming months and I'll pop my humble pie in the oven ready to serve.

[Hibs Class]

Agree with much of that - I viewed JC similarly and he does deserve credit for what Labour have achieved. However there is also no doubt that May ran a disastrous campaign, demonstrating a level of incompetence that was unimaginable a few months ago and Labour are still 50+ seats back. I cannot see the conservatives getting it so badly wrong next time around. What happens next will depend on who ends up forming the next government - if it is conservative led then it'll give them time to recover, if it is Labour led it allows JC to build on this foundation and demonstrate credibility.

[hibsbollah]

:agree:

Beyond all my expectations. Above all the NHS has survived another parliamentary term. I'm in Yorkshire today and that Jared OMara geezer beating slimy creature in Sheffield Nick Clegg is my personal highlight.

[snooky]

I think if a traffic cone had stood against May it would have won. She is as solid and stable as a bouncy castle in a gale.

[hibsbollah]

I think if a traffic cone had stood against May it would have won. She is as solid and stable as a bouncy castle in a gale.

This is going to be a familiar refrain from those who want to give Corbyns team no credit.

[PeeJay]

I think if a traffic cone had stood against May it would have won. She is as solid and stable as a bouncy castle in a gale.

Think your "traffic cone" probably may indeed have had a decent chance - May's disastrous campaign and poor decison-making makes Corbyn look a decent option when he quite plainly isn't - a good Labour leader and a Labour party with a proper plan for the country and its future would have actually won, instead of losing to this shambles of a Tory party, something the Corbynistas should maybe consider?

[DaveF]

Tories a disaster area, yet Labour still 50 odd seats behind them. Yep, great.

[HibernianJK]

A good, honest man who has EVERYBODY'S best interest at heart.

The margin was probably too big to overturn in one go, but if he continues on the right track there's no reason he can't continue the swing in England and hopefully bleed some of his thinking in to ScoLab.

[Betty Boop]

This is going to be a familiar refrain from those who want to give Corbyns team no credit.

Exactly ! Has any other opposition leader faced down such an onslaught, from the MM let alone his own party ? Well done Jezza you've given people hope for the future. :flag:

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

This is going to be a familiar refrain from those who want to give Corbyns team no credit.

And its clearly nonsense.

May got a similar share of vote to Blair in 97 i heard this morning - as did corbyn get a similar share to his subsequent victories i believe.

The man has done a miraculous job, all credit to him.

[Smartie]

I'm not a Labour man, but Jeremy Corbyn deserves a medal for managing to get young people engaged, interested, voting and influencing their own futures.

[G B Young]

No question he enjoyed a much better campaign than predicted - and credit to him for that - but he's over-egging it massively to claim they 'won' the election. When all's said and done Labour still came up some 70 seats short of a majority and around 60 behind the Tories. It would be more accurate to say they 'lost less badly' than last time. Assuming the Tories continue in government it's hard to imagine he'll come up against such a hopelessly ineffective campaigner as May again.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

No question he enjoyed a much better campaign than predicted - and credit to him for that - but he's over-egging it massively to claim they 'won' the election. When all's said and done Labour still came up some 50 seats back and it would be more accurate to say they 'lost less badly' than last time. Assuming the Tories continue in government it's hard to imagine he'll come up against such a hopelessly ineffective campaigner as May again.

You make a valid point. From their perspective though, they have won, as much in their own party as in Westminster.

You are right though, when all is said and done a dreadful campaign amd an uninspiring pm have beaten them comfortably, on a very large share of the vote.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

I think Corbyn's team utilised social media pretty well and got a lot of young voters to vote for the first time.. Hopefully the youngsters will be heartened by the progress made and will come out in even greater numbers next time.

The Torries have no interest in the youth vote as they see them as apathetic, that's why they usually have policies aimed at pensioners. Again, hopefully they make that mistake again in future.

[matty_f]

I don't know how anytime could criticise his leadership credentials, he had a great result despite being up against it from all quarters. If anyone was string and stable during that campaign, it was him.

[R'Albin]

I think if a traffic cone had stood against May it would have won. She is as solid and stable as a bouncy castle in a gale.

It was the most votes Labour have received since 2001. An incredible achievement given 80% of his MPs and the vast majority of the media were against him at one point.

I voted for him in both leadership elections but I have to admit, I would never have predicted he would do so well in this election.

[HiBremian]

:agree:

Beyond all my expectations. Above all the NHS has survived another parliamentary term. I'm in Yorkshire today and that Jared OMara geezer beating slimy creature in Sheffield Nick Clegg is my personal highlight.

Pleased to report my vote helped achieve that one, Bollah ;-)


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[marinello59]

I don't know how anytime could criticise his leadership credentials, he had a great result despite being up against it from all quarters. If anyone was string and stable during that campaign, it was him.

It's worth noting how positive his campaign was. His main emphasis was on the type of Country he wanted to see. A lesson to all of the others.

[CropleyWasGod]

It's worth noting how positive his campaign was. His main emphasis was on the type of Country he wanted to see. A lesson to all of the others.

Yep, agreed.

If only his colleagues up here could have been as positive. It was like listening to 2 different parties at times.

[Hibbyradge]

A number of significant factors are responsible for this result and the Tories' arrogance is at the root of a few of them.

They were so certain that they were going to win, they took the opportunity to introduce social care reforms, which were quickly dubbed "the dementia tax" and were hugely unpopular. Massive mistake.

They also decided to end the triple lock on pensions and you don't mess with the pensioners before a general election. Another colossal error by the Tories which was compounded when Labour, and the Lib Dems, stepped in to guarantee it.

The terror attacks in Manchester, and particularly London, were also damaging for the Tories. Usually the Conservatives would get a boost from something like that - and those who suggested Manchester was a Conservative conspiracy should be utterly ashamed of themselves - but May was badly hurt by the accusation that she couldn't be trusted to keep us safe because it was her that cut police numbers.

Her refusal to take part in the live debate wasn't too damaging until Corbyn changed his mind and agreed to get involved. That was a great move as it made May appear aloof, if not irrelevant. Corbyn was just Corbyn: a bit bumbly, maybe, but harmless enough. He came across as principled and honest and his policies were generally popular. The attacks on him personally became tiresome and ineffective.

What certainly can not be taken away from him is his success in mobilising the younger voters. A different Labour leader may have attracted more of the older generation who see Corbyn as too far to the left, but they would have done well to match Corbyn's popularity with youth.

It's going to be very interesting going forward. The criticisms about Corbyn's association with terrorists are tired and old now, and he's almost immune to them, so what will they attack him with? The words "strong and stable" will never be used again unless satirically, and the idea that the Tories deserve a strong mandate is also laughable.

I know it's the morning after the night before, but right now, I see a positive future for the Labour Party. I saw the opposite a month ago.

[Hibbyradge]

:agree:

I'm in Yorkshire today

You should have popped in. :greengrin :aok:

[Betty Boop]

Labour take Kensington. :flag:

[pacoluna]

And its clearly nonsense.

May got a similar share of vote to Blair in 97 i heard this morning - as did corbyn get a similar share to his subsequent victories i believe.

The man has done a miraculous job, all credit to him.
Nothing to do with movement? They deserve as much credit as corbyn.Stood up to the media and the blairites they gained and spread the word of hope and completely contradicted people with attitudes like yourself that a "movement" is just a bunch of self righteous, self important students.

[Hibbyradge]

Labour take Kensington. :flag:

Are you sure?

The count was suspended and will resume at 6.00pm.

[marinello59]

Are you sure?

The count was suspended and will resume at 6.00pm.

It's been confirmed.

[Hibbyradge]

It's been confirmed.

I can't find any report.

The Kensington count has been suspended, meaning the constituency won't yet be electing its MP.

Work at the count has been delayed – with a result not expected until at least tonight, and perhaps tomorrow.

Reports earlier in the night had suggested that Labour would take the seat from Conservatives. But the results appear to have been so close that repeated recounts are necessary – and the staff are not available to complete the count.

Tellers are now reportedly too tired to take part after having spent almost 12 hours counting votes. They had been seen falling asleep at their tables as they waited for counts and recounts to finish.

Now those staff will be given a chance to "rest and recuperate" before heading back to count all over again.

In a statement, returning officer Tony Redpath said: "The provisional result of the election was known at approximately 2am. That result was very close and a recount was therefore requested.

"The result on that recount also remained very close.

"A request for a third count was therefore made. At this stage staff had been up all night and were becoming visibly tired. In order to have confidence in its accuracy, the recount has been suspended to allow staff to rest and recuperate.

"The count will recommence as soon as possible and details will be posted on our website and on social media."

Kensington has been a strongly Tory seat since its inception. But it also staunchly voted to remain in the Brexit referendum, leading Labour to contest the seat actively during the election campaign.

[Betty Boop]

Are you sure?

The count was suspended and will resume at 6.00pm.
Oh you of little faith :greengrin

https://twitter.com/search?q=labour+gain+kensington&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ese arch

[Hibbyradge]

Oh you of little faith :greengrin

https://twitter.com/search?q=labour+gain+kensington&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ese arch

Thanks.

That's amazing.

Corbyn wins Kensington. Corbyn! Kensington! :faf:

[Colr]

Sometimes in life you just have to put your hands up and say you got it wrong.

I was vocally critical of Jeremy Corbyn, I genuinely believed in his shaky first few months he was going to lead Labour to a catastrophic defeat and return them to the wilderness of the Foot years. Even recently I doubted his ability to put up much of a fight against a Tory party there to be got at.

Whilst it has to be noted he didn't win there is little doubt he fought a brave campaign against a hostile media and began to win round an electorate which ranged from wary to openly hostile, myself included. On his watch Labour produced a genuinely left wing manifesto that has put an ideological debate back on the table in UK politics, he mobilised a vote that had felt disenfranchised in recent years and appealed to new voters. Where he goes now is an interesting question. With the likelihood of us being back at the polls relatively shortly I think he deserves the chance to try and build on his momentum (no pun intended). He needs the Scottish Labour Party t up their game big time and he needs, and deserves, support and loyalty from the PLP to go about his work in being the most effective opposition Labour can be in the meantime.

I'll certainly have no hesitation in getting behind him in the coming months and I'll pop my humble pie in the oven ready to serve.

He did do well but it has to be pointed out (again) that the Tories were utter schecht!

[Hibbyradge]

The Tories won in Mansfield. 'Kin weird election.

[Colr]

I'm not a Labour man, but Jeremy Corbyn deserves a medal for managing to get young people engaged, interested, voting and influencing their own futures.

And identifying that people (especially the young) are sick of the message of austerity and no hope that comes from the Tories. That message did for the Atlee government, after all.

[Northernhibee]

If it was not a snap election I'd have been unhappy with the result. However in two months he's gone from 20%+behind with the Murdoch empire against him and wiped out a Tory majority in an election he couldn't have been prepared for. It's a great result.

[lucky]

JC has shown that people want change and he delivered a good result in the face of some of the worst media coverage any political leader has faced. He deserves to continue as leader and may yet become PM

[Betty Boop]

JC has shown that people want change and he delivered a good result in the face of some of the worst media coverage any political leader has faced. He deserves to continue as leader and may yet become PM



Hear hear ! or is it Here here ?

[Hibbyradge]

Oh you of little faith :greengrin

https://twitter.com/search?q=labour+gain+kensington&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ese arch

It's not won yet.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/kensington-election-results-labours-emma-dent-coad-poised-to-win-seat-from-conservatives-after-third-a3561386.html

[Hibbyradge]

He can't get anything right, the dirty old perv. :wink:

https://twitter.com/nonfade_/status/873001410450927621

[Hibernia&Alba]

40 per cent of the vote - 10 per cent up on the last general election - and that's with his own MPs saying he shouldn't be leader, and a press that has crucified him mercilessly. The talk in this election was of Labour being wiped out, but it's turned out very differently. I feared a Tory landslide, but, clearly Corbyn has offered an alternative to the hopelessness of perpetual austerity that appeals. The young vote seems to have voted in unprecedented numbers, for example.

Corbyn deserves great credit for increasing Labours seats and vote share in such a way. He's been excellent for British politics.

[Moulin Yarns]

More votes than the last4 Labour leader

[Hibernia&Alba]

More votes than the last4 Labour leader

:agree:

40 per cent of the vote; an increase of 10 points. Blairism is finished; Labour don't merely need to be slightly nicer Tories to win but can succeed on a democratic socialist platform. There is hope again :aok:

[jacomo]

Agree with much of that - I viewed JC similarly and he does deserve credit for what Labour have achieved. However there is also no doubt that May ran a disastrous campaign, demonstrating a level of incompetence that was unimaginable a few months ago and Labour are still 50+ seats back. I cannot see the conservatives getting it so badly wrong next time around. What happens next will depend on who ends up forming the next government - if it is conservative led then it'll give them time to recover, if it is Labour led it allows JC to build on this foundation and demonstrate credibility.


Enthusing young people to get out and vote was entirely Corbyn's doing. He deserves enormous credit for that.

[pacoluna]

Enthusing young people to get out and vote was entirely Corbyn's doing. He deserves enormous credit for that.

It was movements doing.

[marinello59]

It was movements doing.

What does that mean?:confused:

[stantonhibby]

What does that mean?:confused:

Meant to say Momentum perhaps?

[snooky]

This is going to be a familiar refrain from those who want to give Corbyns team no credit.
Not at all. The man did well. Fair dos.
However, let's be fair, after her recent performances, May was spread out for the slaughter.

[marinello59]

Meant to say Momentum perhaps?

Ah... maybe. Thanks.

[stantonhibby]

Ah... maybe. Thanks.

I'm just guessing and trying to give the poster the benefit of the doubt. Might just be more nonsense from him!

[pacoluna]

I'm just guessing and trying to give the poster the benefit of the doubt. Might just be more nonsense from him!

Was meant to say momentum.

[stantonhibby]

Was meant to say momentum.

Thought so

[Betty Boop]

To think the stick Jezza took about the IRA.


https://twitter.com/19acres/status/873116262116737027/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fkerrydalestreet.co.uk%2Ftopic %2F11030999%2F137%2F

[Hibernia&Alba]

To think the stick Jezza took about the IRA.


https://twitter.com/19acres/status/873116262116737027/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fkerrydalestreet.co.uk%2Ftopic %2F11030999%2F137%2F

Indeed. Will the Daily Mail and The Sun be consistent in their outrage now the DUP are propping up the Tories? Not a chance.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Gregory Campbell M.P. Now keeping the Tories in government. Let's hear from the Tory press about politicians' links to terrorists


https://youtu.be/sTbebWrj560

[jacomo]

Was meant to say momentum.


Sure. But Momentum needed a message to sell and a guy people trusted.

Things like grime4corbyn etc came out of that and helped too.

[Hibbyradge]

Enthusing young people to get out and vote was entirely Corbyn's doing. He deserves enormous credit for that.

Brexit helped too.

[Mr White]

Gregory Campbell M.P. Now keeping the Tories in government. Let's hear from the Tory press about politicians' links to terrorists


https://youtu.be/sTbebWrj560

I'm unaware of his terrorist history but a quick Google shows a quote from him saying the AIDS epidemic was a curse from God on homosexuals.

This is some ****ing twisted interpretation of "strong and stable" that needs that kind of bigoted ***** to hold things together.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I'm unaware of his terrorist history but a quick Google shows a quote from him saying the AIDS epidemic was a curse from God on homosexuals.

This is some ****ing twisted interpretation of "strong and stable" that needs that kind of bigoted ***** to hold things together.

I've met the guy, and he really is as bad as he seems. Nutcase.

[Betty Boop]

I've met the guy, and he really is as bad as he seems. Nutcase.


The DUP being discussed on Question Time now.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The DUP being discussed on Question Time now.

That Oakeshott woman from The Daily Mail is a repugnant character.

[Pretty Boy]

That Oakeshott woman from The Daily Mail is a repugnant character.

Horrible woman.

For all Alistair Campbell is a total prick I enjoyed him getting the reaction from her he did at the very end.

[Betty Boop]

That Oakeshott woman from The Daily Mail is a repugnant character.


:agree: Vile.

[hibsbollah]

Pleased to report my vote helped achieve that one, Bollah ;-)


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:aok:Good stuff. An inspirational victory speech from him, I was really
moved I have to say.

[hibsbollah]

:agree:

40 per cent of the vote; an increase of 10 points. Blairism is finished; Labour don't merely need to be slightly nicer Tories to win but can succeed on a democratic socialist platform. There is hope again :aok:

:top marks

[Bristolhibby]

Labour have just taken Kensington!

WTF?!?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kensington-election-result-labour-wins-tory-safe-seat-corbyn-may-latest-a7782961.html

[Hibernia&Alba]

Labour have just taken Kensington!

WTF?!?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kensington-election-result-labour-wins-tory-safe-seat-corbyn-may-latest-a7782961.html

Aye and have taken Kensington with Jeremy Corbyn as leader and a left wing manifesto.

[hibsbollah]

Aye and have taken Kensington with Jeremy Corbyn as leader and a left wing manifesto.

Socialist takes Chelsea and Kensington, Tories now the second force in Scotland. Strange times.

[wookie70]

The first thing Labour should do is to put PR in their manifesto. Have a look at the figures for the last few GEs. It is frightening how the value a vote varies depending on postcode.

Blair 2005 9,552,436 35.2% votes 355 seats
Brown 2010 8,609,527 votes 29% 258 seats
Milliband 2015 9,347,304 votes 30.4% 232 seats
Corbyn 2017 12,874,985 votes 40% 262 seats
Howard 2005 8,784,915 votes 32.4% 198 seats
Cameron 2010 10,726,614 votes 36.1% 307 seats
Cameron 2015 11,334,576 votes 36.9% 331 seats
May 2017 13,667,213 votes 42.4% 318 seats
First past the post is a crazy system. Corbyn get a bigger percentage of the vote and at least a million more votes more than the previous 3 PMs and is 89 seats short of a majority. He was only 0.7% less but 2 million more than Blair in 2001 who gained 413 seats.
May gets 2.4% more votes than Corbyn but that equates to 21% more seats. The "left" get around 54% of the vote but that isn't enough for a majority of seats.
May can rightly claim she got the most seats and the most votes but she does not speak on behalf of the majority in Britain. The system we have though will allow her to join together with 10 creationist nutters and have an outright majority that will let her do anything she wants as long as she can get every Tory and DUP bum on a seat and agreeing with the party line.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The first thing Labour should do is to put PR in their manifesto. Have a look at the figures for the last few GEs. It is frightening how the value a vote varies depending on postcode.

Blair 2005 9,552,436 35.2% votes 355 seats
Brown 2010 8,609,527 votes 29% 258 seats
Milliband 2015 9,347,304 votes 30.4% 232 seats
Corbyn 2017 12,874,985 votes 40% 262 seats
Howard 2005 8,784,915 votes 32.4% 198 seats
Cameron 2010 10,726,614 votes 36.1% 307 seats
Cameron 2015 11,334,576 votes 36.9% 331 seats
May 2017 13,667,213 votes 42.4% 318 seats
First past the post is a crazy system. Corbyn get a bigger percentage of the vote and at least a million more votes more than the previous 3 PMs and is 89 seats short of a majority. He was only 0.7% less but 2 million more than Blair in 2001 who gained 413 seats.
May gets 2.4% more votes than Corbyn but that equates to 21% more seats. The "left" get around 54% of the vote but that isn't enough for a majority of seats.
May can rightly claim she got the most seats and the most votes but she does not speak on behalf of the majority in Britain. The system we have though will allow her to join together with 10 creationist nutters and have an outright majority that will let her do anything she wants as long as she can get every Tory and DUP bum on a seat and agreeing with the party line.


:agree:

I voted Green. One seat for 525,000 votes.
Conservatives - 42,979 votes per seat.
Labour - 49,141 votes per seat
SNP - 27,931 votes per seat
Lib dem - 197,648 votes per seat
DUP - 29,232 votes per seat
Sinn Fein - 34, 131 votes per seat
Plaid Cymru - 41,117 votes per seat
UKIP - Nothing at all for 593,852 votes

[wookie70]

:agree:

I voted Green. One seat for 525,000 votes.
Conservatives - 42,979 votes per seat.
Labour - 49,141 votes per seat
SNP - 27,931 votes per seat
Lib dem - 197,648 votes per seat
DUP - 29,232 votes per seat
Sinn Fein - 34, 131 votes per seat
Plaid Cymru - 41,117 votes per seat
UKIP - Nothing at all for 593,852 votes

I typically vote Green but Corbyn did enough to convince me. As a Civil Servant I have heard him speak a few times at Union Conference and he is very supportive as is John McD. First past the post just makes some voters votes hugely valuable. It is a terrible system if you believe votes should be of equal value. The Scottish system seems reasonable in maintaining a constituency element and propping that up with list seats.

[The Harp Awakes]

Whatever you do Jeremy sort out Scottish Labour.

Gutter politicians most of whom would stab you in the back given the opportunity. James Kelly, Kezia, Ian Murray and Iain Gray to name but a few, the latter of whom was outrageous in his comments on BBC Radio Scotland today. 2 of them Hibees as well:rolleyes:

[Sir David Gray]

I personally don't get it but he has done well from the starting position he had. To have gained so many seats is certainly an impressive result for him.

I still don't think Labour will ever win a General Election with Jeremy Corbyn as leader though.

[Pretty Boy]

I personally don't get it but he has done well from the starting position he had. To have gained so many seats is certainly an impressive result for him.

I still don't think Labour will ever win a General Election with Jeremy Corbyn as leader though.

For me it's now somewhat irrelevant whether Corbyn ever actually wins an election as leader. He has put the ideological debate back on the table both within the Labour Party and amongst the public. His hand will be strengthened moving forward because many of the 'rebels' will be willing to get behind him, at least for the meantime.

The next challenge is of course actually setting about winning an election, whether that's in a year or 5 years. He's done a fine job mobilising the young and student vote and reawakening a group of traditional voters who Labour had alienated in recent years. What he needs to do now is start winning more votes from the SNP in Scotland and the Tories in England and indeed now Scotland. That may require a few concessions and a policy or 2 from the centre ground, I think that is now firmly acheivable whilst maintaining a strong social democratic heart. He's got my vote for the forseeable.

[hibsbollah]

For me it's now somewhat irrelevant whether Corbyn ever actually wins an election as leader. He has put the ideological debate back on the table both within the Labour Party and amongst the public. His hand will be strengthened moving forward because many of the 'rebels' will be willing to get behind him, at least for the meantime.

The next challenge is of course actually setting about winning an election, whether that's in a year or 5 years. He's done a fine job mobilising the young and student vote and reawakening a group of traditional voters who Labour had alienated in recent years. What he needs to do now is start winning more votes from the SNP in Scotland and the Tories in England and indeed now Scotland. That may require a few concessions and a policy or 2 from the centre ground, I think that is now firmly acheivable whilst maintaining a strong social democratic heart. He's got my vote for the forseeable.

:agree: Its not about the man, it's about his policies, as I've said many times already. Inspire people with ideas and win the election in five years with a genuinely radical agenda, whoevers at the helm.

[marinello59]

:agree: Its not about the man, it's about his policies, as I've said many times already. Inspire people with ideas and win the election in five years with a genuinely radical agenda, whoevers at the helm.

:agree:

[Hibbyradge]

This, from the New Yorker, is brilliant.

THE BOOK OF JEREMY CORBYN

And it came to pass, in the land of Britain, that the High Priestess went unto the people and said, Behold, I bring ye tidings of great joy. For on the eighth day of the sixth month there shall be a general election.

And the people said, Not another one.

And they waxed wroth against the High Priestess and said, Didst thou not sware, even unto seven times, that thou wouldst not call a snap election?

And the High Priestess said, I know, I know. But Brexit is come upon us, and I must go into battle against the tribes of France, Germany, and sundry other holiday destinations. And I must put on the armor of a strong majority in the people’s house. Therefore go ye out and vote.

And there came from the temple pollsters, who said, Surely this woman will flourish. For her enemy is as grass; she cutteth him down. He is as straw in the wind, and he will blow away. And the trumpet of her triumph shall sound in all the land.

And the High Priestess said, Piece of cake.

And there came from the same country a prophet, whose name was Jeremy. His beard was as the pelt of beasts, and his raiments were not of the finest. And he cried aloud in the wilderness and said, Behold, I bring you hope.

And suddenly there was with him a host of young people. And he said unto them, Ye shall study and grow wise in all things, and I shall not ask ye for gold. And the sick shall be made well, and they also will heal freely. And he promised unto them all manner of goodly things.

And the young people said unto him, How shall these things be rendered, seeing that thou hast no money in thy purse?

And he spake unto them in a voice of sounding brass and said, Soak the rich. And again, Pull down the mighty from their seats.

And the young people went absolutely nuts.

And they hearkened unto the word of Jeremy, and believed. For they said unto themselves, Lo, he bringeth unto us the desire of our hearts. He cometh by bicycle, with a helmet upon his head. And he eateth neither flesh nor fowl, according to the Scriptures. For man cannot live by bread alone, but hummus is quite another matter.

And the High Priestess saw all these things and was sore. And she gathered unto her the chief scribes and the Pharisees and said unto them, What the hell is going on?

And they said unto her, It is a blip, as if it were a rough place upon the road.

But they said unto themselves, When the government was upon her shoulders, this woman was mighty. But now that she has gone abroad unto every corner of the land, she stumbleth. For surely it is written that ruling and campaigning are as oil and water, and there shall be no concord betwixt them.

And the chief scribes wrote upon tablets, saying, Jeremy is false of tongue. He hideth wickedness in his heart. And his sums do not add up.

And nobody paid any attention.

And the elders rose up and said to the young people, If ye choose Jeremy, he will bring distress in your toils and wailing upon your streets. Do ye not remember the nineteen-seventies?

And the young people said, The what?

And the elders spake again, and said to the young people, Beware, for he gave succor in days of yore to the I.R.A.

And the young people said, The what?

And the young people said, Jeremy shall bring peace unto all nations, for he hateth the engines of war that take wing across the heavens. And he showeth respect for all peoples, even unto the transgender community.

And the elders said, The what?

And it came to pass that the heathen of this land came among the people, with fire and sword, and slew many among the faithful. And great was the lamentation.

And the High Priestess waxed exceeding wroth and said to the people, Fear not. For I shall bind your wounds and give ye shelter from the heathen, and shall take up the sword against them.

And there came again pollsters from the temple, who said, Will the people not vote for her in this hour of need?

And nobody paid any attention.

And it came to the vote.

And the elders went up to vote, and the young people. And the young people were as a multitude. And in the hours of darkness there was much counting. And the young people watched by night, and the elders went to bed.

And there came in the morning news that the High Priestess had vanquished the prophet Jeremy. But the triumph of the High Priestess was as the width of a nail. And she was vexed.

And the elders and the chief scribes and the Pharisees spoke among themselves, yea, even in the corners of their houses.

And there was great rejoicing amidst the multitude of the young. And they took strong wine, and did feast among themselves. And there were twelve baskets left over.

And of the pollsters there was no sign.

And the people saw Jeremy and said, Surely this man has won? Doth he not skip in gladness like a young hart upon the hills?

And there was great murmuring among the elders. And they said unto themselves, Weep not. For the High Priestess doth but prepare the way. Cometh there not one who is greater than she?

And they said, Behold, for the hour of the redeemer is upon us. And his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the Prince of Peace. And they cried in one voice, Boris.

And the young people said, Oh, ****.

And the people gave tongue, and made supplication unto the Lord, saying, Lord, let our cry come unto thee.

And the Lord thought the whole thing was absolutely hilarious.

And then the people said, Lord, what shall we do regarding Brexit? For henceforth the High Priestess shall be as weak as a newborn lamb. How shall we hope for continued access to the single market?

And the Lord said, The what?

[HiBremian]

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Tory déja vu?


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