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Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 02:39 PM
I can't help but think it may have been an idea to postpone the match, given Monday's events, for the sake of the fans if not the players. How are the United fans expected to enjoy it, to sing and party at a final? The suicide bomber grew up as a United fan. I get the argument that life should continue as normal to send a message to terrorists, but if I were there as a fan of a Manchester team, I think I would feel it unseemly to be singing and celebrating about football.

Just give it a week for the shock to subside? What do you think?

Ozyhibby
24-05-2017, 02:50 PM
I can't help but think it may have been an idea to postpone the match, given Monday's events, for the sake of the fans if not the players. How are the United fans expected to enjoy it, to sing and party at a final? The suicide bomber grew up as a United fan. I get the argument that life should continue as normal to send a message to terrorists, but if I were there as a fan of a Manchester team, I think I would feel it unseemly to be singing and celebrating about football.

Just give it a week for the shock to subside? What do you think?

I disagree for about a million reasons. We have to carry on, just like we should have played the game against AEK Athens.


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lucky
24-05-2017, 02:54 PM
We honour the dead and grieve for their passing but as a society we must try and continue. Failure to do that gives the terrorists a victory. The game should go ahead and hopefully United win

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 02:56 PM
I disagree for about a million reasons. We have to carry on, just like we should have played the game against AEK Athens.


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I get the carry on argument, as I say, and if the final didn't involve a Manchester club I would definitely agree. I just think it could put the United supporters in a difficult position, with supporters of the club amongst the dead and injured. How does one react as a fan in these circumstances?

HUTCHYHIBBY
24-05-2017, 02:59 PM
I can't help but think it may have been an idea to postpone the match, given Monday's events, for the sake of the fans if not the players. How are the United fans expected to enjoy it, to sing and party at a final? The suicide bomber grew up as a United fan. I get the argument that life should continue as normal to send a message to terrorists, but if I were there as a fan of a Manchester team, I think I would feel it unseemly to be singing and celebrating about football.

Just give it a week for the shock to subside? What do you think?

If it had happened in Stockholm it would certainly have been postponed, hopefully the correct decision has been made and all the attention can be focused on what happens on the pitch.

Navids Numpties
24-05-2017, 02:59 PM
Hope united get hoofed. Mon the pool.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 03:04 PM
If it had happened in Stockholm it would certainly have been postponed, hopefully the correct decision has been made and all the attention can be focused on what happens on the pitch.

Members of my family are United season ticket holders but couldn't get tickets for Stockholm. From what I can gather, they haven't even given tonight's game a thought yet; there's just too much going on in the city.

guthrie01
24-05-2017, 04:04 PM
The game should absolutely go ahead, it's terrorists aim not to create danger but create fear. Fear of going to a concert, attending a football match, going on a plane, fear of even walking down the street.

If we stop living our lives as we want to then they win, we can respect those who sadly lost their lives but also also choose to live without fear or worrying what could happen.

I hope the Man U and Ajax fans enjoy the match tonight, 90 minutes where the only concern is wanting your team to win.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 04:07 PM
The game should absolutely go ahead, it's terrorists aim not to create danger but create fear. Fear of going to a concert, attending a football match, going on a plane, fear of even walking down the street.

If we stop living our lives as we want to then they win, we can respect those who sadly lost their lives but also also choose to live without fear or worrying what could happen.

I hope the Man U and Ajax fans enjoy the match tonight, 90 minutes where the only concern is wanting your team to win.

I'm not so much speaking out of fear but respect in this case. If a local team wasn't involved, I would certainly agree.

Anyway, it's by the by, as the games goes ahead. Wonder what the atmosphere will be like though.....

Hamish
24-05-2017, 04:10 PM
On BT Sport 2 Freeview for anyone interested.

allant1981
24-05-2017, 04:21 PM
I can't help but think it may have been an idea to postpone the match, given Monday's events, for the sake of the fans if not the players. How are the United fans expected to enjoy it, to sing and party at a final? The suicide bomber grew up as a United fan. I get the argument that life should continue as normal to send a message to terrorists, but if I were there as a fan of a Manchester team, I think I would feel it unseemly to be singing and celebrating about football.

Just give it a week for the shock to subside? What do you think?

ive just been watching videos online and they certainly seem to be enjoying themselves so far

hibee_girl
24-05-2017, 04:28 PM
If the game had been in Manchester I'd understand it being called off.

As it is it might give the fans something else to focus on for 90 minutes at least.

660
24-05-2017, 04:45 PM
Hope Man Utd get pumped.

NYHibby
24-05-2017, 05:28 PM
On BT Sport 2 Freeview for anyone interested.

It is also on Youtube for free.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 05:36 PM
AJAX TEAM NEWS
Starting XI: Onana, Veltman, Riedewald, Sanchez, De Ligt, Klaassen, Schone, Ziyech, Traore, Younes, Dolberg
Subs: Boer, Tete, Westermann, De Jong, Van de Beek, Kluivert, Neres


MAN UTD TEAM NEWS
Starting XI: Romero, Valencia, Smalling, Blind, Dariman, Fellaini, Herrera, Pogba, Mata, Rashford, Mkhitaryan
Subs: De Gea, Fosu-Mensah, Jones, Carrick, Lingard, Martial, Rooney

Pete
24-05-2017, 05:53 PM
There's going to be a minutes silence tonight. Call me cynical but I hope it doesn't get ruined by the more extreme element in the Ajax crowd.

I think lots of neutrals will now be willing United on to win. I hope they do.

HibbyAndy
24-05-2017, 06:11 PM
Cmon Ajax

Scouse Hibee
24-05-2017, 06:13 PM
Hope Man Utd get pumped.

That would normally be my sentiments, however on this occasion I will be quite happy for at least some Manchester folk to be able to rejoice in a sporting victory.

Lancs Harp
24-05-2017, 06:33 PM
Ajax for me, took out an Ajax Juve double for the European silverwear at the semi final stages.

Got some good kids Ajax and despite Jose often dour approach think this might be a decent match.

So thats 0-0 and penalties then.

Eaststand
24-05-2017, 06:39 PM
It is also on Youtube for free.

I just found that on youtube, its excellent HD quality too :-)

GGTTH

hibsbollah
24-05-2017, 06:44 PM
Gaun the Ajax!
Is that Patrick Kluiverts son on the bench?

Kavinho
24-05-2017, 06:47 PM
Gaun the Ajax!
Is that Patrick Kluiverts son on the bench?

Aye.


What is it with those slapped "handshakes" ?

Sprouleflyer
24-05-2017, 06:49 PM
Less than half the tickets given to the supporters, crazy!

Pete70
24-05-2017, 06:57 PM
Less than half the tickets given to the supporters, crazy!

More neutrals/Uefa hangers on at the match than supporters of both competing clubs combined. Crazy indeed.

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 06:58 PM
Think United will be happier with their start. Ajax look like a young, nervous team so far.

Lancs Harp
24-05-2017, 07:03 PM
Just remember lads we were in this cup, this could have been us tonight :greengrin

:flag:

hibsbollah
24-05-2017, 07:04 PM
spawny ****s

does this result (if it happens) open up a 5th champions league place for England?

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 07:05 PM
One of the most expensive players in the world. Scores a total fluke.

Hibby70
24-05-2017, 07:07 PM
Man U fans break out in light applause after going 1 nil up in a European final.

Show some exuberance for god's sake.

SteveHFC
24-05-2017, 07:08 PM
Utd fans just standing up and applauding in a European final :faf:

Scouse Hibee
24-05-2017, 07:11 PM
Man U fans break out in light applause after going 1 nil up in a European final.

Show some exuberance for god's sake.

Maybe they don't feel like showing too much exuberance tonight.

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 07:13 PM
I know people criticise Pogba but there's been 4 or 5 times already tonight in which his ability to retain and recycle possession in a tight situation has been superb.

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 07:14 PM
Are people really trying to suggest the Utd fans in attendance tonight aren't every bit as passionate about their club as we are ours? With the allocation they were given it's the total die hards there tonight.

Biggie
24-05-2017, 07:16 PM
Probably don't want to show too much excitement as its only the wee cup :wink:

Andy74
24-05-2017, 07:17 PM
One of the most expensive players in the world. Scores a total fluke.

Strange post. Do good players not get deflections?

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 07:18 PM
Strange post. Do good players not get deflections?
It was meant as a tongue in cheek comment.

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Dashing Bob S
24-05-2017, 07:23 PM
Definitely a Snorhinho side rather than a Manchester United one.

Wee Effen Bee
24-05-2017, 07:29 PM
Definitely a Snorhinho side rather than a Manchester United one.

39 mins of misplaced passing from both teams; very few shots; 2 each on target? sclaffed/deflected goal and that's the good bits.:greengrin

Andy74
24-05-2017, 07:32 PM
Does anyone know if the Ajax team are quite young? It's not really coming through in the commentary. 😉

Scouse Hibee
24-05-2017, 07:32 PM
European final....
.... A snore fest so far

Hibby70
24-05-2017, 07:40 PM
European final....
.... A snore fest so far

It's not even in VR so we can't scan the Ajax end for nice Dutch girls.

inglisavhibs
24-05-2017, 07:50 PM
European final....
.... A snore fest so far
It's bloody awful, United are just spoilers and are killing the game. Enjoyed the Falkirk, United play off game far more.

SteveHFC
24-05-2017, 07:51 PM
2-0

Game over.

G B Young
24-05-2017, 07:52 PM
Utd fans just standing up and applauding in a European final :faf:

I'm not watching the game but don't you think there might be an element of respect for those murdered in Manchester on Monday behind the low key tone adopted by the fans? I know a lot of my focus would be elsewhere if Hibs were playing in a big game and a similar incident had taken place in Edinburgh two nights previously.

HibbyAndy
24-05-2017, 07:52 PM
It's bloody awful, United are just spoilers and are killing the game. Enjoyed the Falkirk, United play off game far more.

That's Jose Mourhino for you...Utter borefest . Boring boring football

Heisenberg
24-05-2017, 07:53 PM
Ajax have been brutal.

Hermit Crab
24-05-2017, 07:54 PM
Ajax have shat it but they are a very young team. In a few years time they will be excellent if they keep that team together.

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 07:55 PM
Ajax have been very disappointing considering the hype aroud them in the build up.

I was looking forward to seeing the cavalier side I'd heard people waxing lyrical about but it's not been in evidence. Utd have set up professionally but Ajax have been brutal.

Heisenberg
24-05-2017, 07:58 PM
Utd fans just standing up and applauding in a European final :faf:

I don't get it, what's funny?

Michael
24-05-2017, 07:59 PM
Ajax have shat it but they are a very young team. In a few years time they will be excellent if they keep that team together.

Sadly they'll probably be raided by the 'big 4' leagues.

cleanyman
24-05-2017, 07:59 PM
Ajax are terrible

Over hyped to the max

Scouse Hibee
24-05-2017, 08:01 PM
I thought Ajax would clean up tonight.

Hermit Crab
24-05-2017, 08:03 PM
I thought Ajax would clean up tonight.


:tee hee:

Haymaker
24-05-2017, 08:05 PM
That's Jose Mourhino for you...Utter borefest . Boring boring football

While it may be boring, he's successful. If he goes on to win it tonight will that be every trophy he's competed for?

EDIT: Forgot he's already won it before.

Off the bar
24-05-2017, 08:07 PM
While it may be boring, he's successful. If he goes on to win it tonight will that be every trophy he's competed for?

He won the eufa with Porto against Celtic I think

Haymaker
24-05-2017, 08:08 PM
He won the eufa with Porto against Celtic I think

Indeed, I forgot that!

heretoday
24-05-2017, 08:14 PM
God I hate United.

GreenNWhiteArmy
24-05-2017, 08:15 PM
Hardly a classic so far but from a united perspective, who cares?

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 08:20 PM
Referee is probably a contender for MotM. He's got most things spot on.

HoboHarry
24-05-2017, 08:24 PM
I thought Ajax would clean up tonight.

They got bleached instead.....

Moody Blues
24-05-2017, 08:26 PM
Poor poor game. Expected so much more.

Green forever
24-05-2017, 08:27 PM
They got bleached instead.....

Probably wipe the floor with them..

WhileTheChief..
24-05-2017, 08:30 PM
I'm not watching the game but don't you think there might be an element of respect for those murdered in Manchester on Monday behind the low key tone adopted by the fans? I know a lot of my focus would be elsewhere if Hibs were playing in a big game and a similar incident had taken place in Edinburgh two nights previously.

Exactly.

The celebrations tonight will be totally subdued in light of what happened and rightly so.

To be slagging off Man Utd fans tonight of all nights is ridiculous.

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 08:30 PM
Let's be honest finals aren't always classics. United have played to their relative strengths and nulified Ajax.

If Juventus play the same way against Madrid next week it will be hailed as a tactical masterclass but because it's Mourinho it's treated as the work of the anti christ.

660
24-05-2017, 08:30 PM
Pogba is crap. No wonder juve were pishing themselves laughing when Man Utd paid that much for him.

Lancs Harp
24-05-2017, 08:30 PM
Disappointed with Ajax they are better than that, they keep trying to walk the ball in and United had them all worked out from the start. They stll have some talented youngsters there though. Men against boys tonight though.

Dashing Bob S
24-05-2017, 08:37 PM
Wish I hadn't wasted time watching that. Ajax punchless, Man U boring. When you think of some of the exciting teams both clubs have produced they are an embarrassment to the names.

lyonhibs
24-05-2017, 08:37 PM
That would normally be my sentiments, however on this occasion I will be quite happy for at least some Manchester folk to be able to rejoice in a sporting victory.

Likewise. Happy they've won it

Dinkydoo
24-05-2017, 08:39 PM
Glad United have won tonight but Ajax have been very naive.

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Michael
24-05-2017, 08:43 PM
Hate how they keep going on about qualifying for the Champions League. Like, who cares? They've won a bloody trophy.

B.H.F.C
24-05-2017, 08:43 PM
Utd have been crap this year but still have two trophies and a champions league place in the bag so Jose must be doing something right.

G B Young
24-05-2017, 08:44 PM
Glad to hear United won. A much-needed good news story for the city.

SteveHFC
24-05-2017, 08:44 PM
Ajax will be some team in a few years time.

Keyser Sauzee
24-05-2017, 08:48 PM
Ajax will be some team in a few years time.

I was thinking that aswell but likelyhood is that a few of these players will be sold onto bigger better teams splitting up what is potentially a very good side.

Haymaker
24-05-2017, 08:48 PM
Ajax will be some team in a few years time.

If they stay together.

Pretty Boy
24-05-2017, 08:49 PM
Ajax will be some team in a few years time.

That team will be broken up within 2 or 3 seasons. Money talks and even huge names like Ajax can't compete when the super rich come calling.

Moody Blues
24-05-2017, 08:50 PM
Ajax will be some team in a few years time.

Do you honestly think so. They will have to learn to pass to each other to start with. There seems to be a massive gulf between CHampions League and Europa.

G B Young
24-05-2017, 08:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAnogTwXoAAgTQK.jpg:large

SirDavidsNapper
24-05-2017, 08:57 PM
Ajax will be some team in a few years time.

Their better players will be cherry picked by giants such as Bournemouth and Brighton and Hove Albion.

3pm
24-05-2017, 09:00 PM
Think Zlatan appreciated the banner!!

Holmesdale Hibs
24-05-2017, 09:01 PM
Think Zlatan appreciated the banner!!

That was brilliant.

dp00
24-05-2017, 09:02 PM
A touch of class from city [emoji122]

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Keyser Sauzee
24-05-2017, 09:02 PM
That was brilliant.

What happened?

3pm
24-05-2017, 09:04 PM
What happened?

'Zlatan stay and you can **** my wife'

The_Horde
24-05-2017, 09:04 PM
What happened?

Posed with a banner that said Zlat please stay and I'll let you **** my wife :hilarious

Tv folk took ages to notice what he was up to.

Holmesdale Hibs
24-05-2017, 09:05 PM
What happened?

Guy in the front row had a banner saying 'Zlatan, if you stay you can **** my wife'. Zlatan stood on front of it, asked the cameramen behind to move, and asked his mate to take a picture. BT realised what was happening a few seconds too late

660
24-05-2017, 09:10 PM
Guy in the front row had a banner saying 'Zlatan, if you stay you can **** my wife'. Zlatan stood on front of it, asked the cameramen behind to move, and asked his mate to take a picture. BT realised what was happening a few seconds too late

Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.

GreenNWhiteArmy
24-05-2017, 09:17 PM
3 trophies but a "*****" season apparently. Cannot wait for a good season. Well in United.

Hopefully Hibs could have a "*****" season like that soon

jgl07
24-05-2017, 09:25 PM
https://twitter.com/LJWilkinson12/status/867483680104644608

The European equivalent of the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 09:29 PM
Ajax have some excellent young players who got them to a European final, but it was comfortable for United tonight. The gulf in 'know how' as much as anything was obvious.

Big thing for United, of course, is Champions League qualification. We can lament the fact that, in modern football, winning the trophy isn't the main thing, but that's just the way things are for the really big clubs now; they have to be in the Champions League. Two trophies and CL qualification is a fairly good season, but they have to challenge for the title and have a good CL run next season. Big summer of transfer activity for Jose, which he must get right.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 09:29 PM
A touch of class from city [emoji122]

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:agree:

Unseen work
24-05-2017, 09:37 PM
thay Ajax performance reminded me of us.

Got to the penalty box then nothing.

jacomo
24-05-2017, 09:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAnogTwXoAAgTQK.jpg:large


Class.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 10:02 PM
A post for Scouse Hibee:

Major trophies won (updated 24.05.17)

Manchester United 45
Liverpool 44


:na na:

660
24-05-2017, 10:06 PM
A post for Scouse Hibee:

Major trophies won (updated 24.05.17)

Manchester United 45
Liverpool 44


:na na:

Oh dear

hibsbollah
24-05-2017, 10:09 PM
Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.

Explain. There is no connection between the two things.

Hibernia&Alba
24-05-2017, 10:11 PM
Some of the Ajax supporters not happy at their team's performance tonight


https://youtu.be/kzE6PwUE3K8

CapitalGreen
24-05-2017, 10:11 PM
Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.

Strange post.

Sir David Gray
24-05-2017, 10:59 PM
Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.

I'm not quite sure how you come to that conclusion to be honest.

It was nothing to do with death or making light of anything that happened in Manchester. It was a banner that was aimed exclusively at Zlatan Ibrahimovic and although the wording was a bit vulgar, it was hardly distasteful because of the terrorist attack.

poolman
24-05-2017, 11:24 PM
Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.

That post has left me totally puzzled 🤔

pacorosssco
24-05-2017, 11:26 PM
Their better players will be cherry picked by giants such as Bournemouth and Brighton and Hove Albion.

Harsh reality but true. Used to be AC Millan or Barca but still selling players every year for good value. Like Celtic limited by league.

Mibbes Aye
25-05-2017, 12:21 AM
I actually enjoyed the game. Two different tactical styles and one proved to be successful. I loved the touch, technique and dribbling of Ajax. They weren't able to finish off their efforts because Utd were so well organised and disciplined. There was a certain naivety on the part of Ajax but to compensate, a lot of their passing was so surgical and deserves admiration. Man U set up cleverly and showed Mourinho knows how to win the big games.

Monaco and Ajax will both be plundered in the close season. Lots of genuine young talent. My pick from tonight was Davinson Sanchez. Fully expect him to be looking for houses with a Munich or Barcelona postcode. Hope he ends up at Arsenal and expect both Manchester teams to be in for him. Only twenty but the timing on some of his tackles spoke of much greater experience.

pacorosssco
25-05-2017, 01:09 AM
I actually enjoyed the game. Two different tactical styles and one proved to be successful. I loved the touch, technique and dribbling of Ajax. They weren't able to finish off their efforts because Utd were so well organised and disciplined. There was a certain naivety on the part of Ajax but to compensate, a lot of their passing was so surgical and deserves admiration. Man U set up cleverly and showed Mourinho knows how to win the big games.

Monaco and Ajax will both be plundered in the close season. Lots of genuine young talent. My pick from tonight was Davinson Sanchez. Fully expect him to be looking for houses with a Munich or Barcelona postcode. Hope he ends up at Arsenal and expect both Manchester teams to be in for him. Only twenty but the timing on some of his tackles spoke of much greater experience.

Lived last ten years holland . Dolberg looks real talent but what do i know yet monaco way more wealth and team just made semi main event. If monaco utd final. Monaco win
Ado den haag my team but i salute a young ajax team tonight who a deflected opener made task all the harder.

JimBHibees
25-05-2017, 06:07 AM
Lived last ten years holland . Dolberg looks real talent but what do i know yet monaco way more wealth and team just made semi main event. If monaco utd final. Monaco win
Ado den haag my team but i salute a young ajax team tonight who a deflected opener made task all the harder.

Agree totally was brilliant to see a young team most of which home grown playing so well and getting to a final. Early goal changed the game and to me it is huge respect to Ajax that Man U didn't think their multi million pound squad could go toe to toe with them but rather play a cagey defensive counter attack style. While appreciating that was a massive game for United no way will their fans put up with that anti football style over a longer period.

Owen Hargreaves must be the worst pundit ever, horrific and hugely biased.

Scouse Hibee
25-05-2017, 06:26 AM
A post for Scouse Hibee:

Major trophies won (updated 24.05.17)

Manchester United 45
Liverpool 44


:na na:

Post for H&A if you're going to take the piss at least get the figures correct ;-)

Delighted for the people of Manchester who have been able to take their minds off the atrocities for a short time with this victory.

Scouse Hibee
25-05-2017, 06:27 AM
Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.

Nonsense.

lucky
25-05-2017, 06:42 AM
Ajax pass the ball well but they never looked like scoring and the result was never in doubt.

Hero76
25-05-2017, 06:55 AM
The game was dire ....utd done what was required but it was a total snore fest

Keith_M
25-05-2017, 08:32 AM
Distasteful given the events in Manchester this week.


Gie's peace.