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cammy1969
13-05-2017, 12:45 AM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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ekhibee
13-05-2017, 01:36 AM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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My wife's diabetic. There'll be plenty of tablets to take, such as Metformin, Ramprol and Glycoside, but as long as you take them when you're meant to, you'll be fine. Some type 2's, like my wife, have to inject themsleves with insulin, but you might not have to do that, you might get the tablets instead. Your blood sugar level's the important thing too, if you get too low (7 is the average for people without diabetes, but diabetics often have a higher blood sugar level than that) you run the risk of getting a 'hypo,' which can be dangerous and can in some cases bring about a coma. If you feel you're getting that way you need to take something with sugar, a mars bar for example, just to get your sugar level back up. The doc'll keep you right about most of that though. Once a year you'll get an appointment to get your eyes checked, and another appointment you'll get will be for feet. Don't miss them, they're important. If a diabetic bangs their foot they actually run the risk of amputation in some cases, extreme as that sounds.

Bottom line, as long as you take you tablets/injections regularly, and attend the appointments your meant to, you'll be fine. There's plenty of diabetic stuff out there foodwise, but you don't need to stick to it rigidly, you will still have a perfectly normal quality of life providing you take your medication and attend the necessary appointments. A small tip-if you get a cold or need to go to the pharmacist for any kind of medication, always check with the pharmacist/assistant whether you can take it. Diabetics shouldn't take some medications. phew, that's it. I think!

sadtom
13-05-2017, 02:52 AM
Me too 3 years ago.
Take yer meds, eat healthy, take it easy wi the bevy, stop smoking, lose weight and cut out all the tasty stuff. Ye might no' actually live longer but it will f***in' well feel like it. :greengrin

Brunswickbill
13-05-2017, 06:21 AM
Have read of Michael Mosley's book "The 8-Week Blood Sugar Diet: Lose weight fast and reprogramme your body." A lot of good advice in there about diet and type 2 diabetes.

Stranraer
13-05-2017, 06:32 AM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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Just be thankful that you're not type 1. My Mum was type 1 and it was a nightmare trying to get her sugar levels correct day in, day out. The only advice I would give you is to stay away from the drink as it seems to raise my Dad's sugar levels (who is type 2).

Annasam
13-05-2017, 06:32 AM
Have read of Michael Mosley's book "The 8-Week Blood Sugar Diet: Lose weight fast and reprogramme your body." A lot of good advice in there about diet and type 2 diabetes.

Tell your wife that the GP recommended regular horizontal exercise as the best way to regulate blood glucose levels

Ray_
13-05-2017, 07:32 AM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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The tablets can have side effects that make you feel rotten, loose weight [if needed], regular exercise and healthy eating will bring enormous benefits and reduce the need for tablets.

ronaldo7
13-05-2017, 07:45 AM
My wife's diabetic. There'll be plenty of tablets to take, such as Metformin, Ramprol and Glycoside, but as long as you take them when you're meant to, you'll be fine. Some type 2's, like my wife, have to inject themsleves with insulin, but you might not have to do that, you might get the tablets instead. Your blood sugar level's the important thing too, if you get too low (7 is the average for people without diabetes, but diabetics often have a higher blood sugar level than that) you run the risk of getting a 'hypo,' which can be dangerous and can in some cases bring about a coma. If you feel you're getting that way you need to take something with sugar, a mars bar for example, just to get your sugar level back up. The doc'll keep you right about most of that though. Once a year you'll get an appointment to get your eyes checked, and another appointment you'll get will be for feet. Don't miss them, they're important. If a diabetic bangs their foot they actually run the risk of amputation in some cases, extreme as that sounds.

Bottom line, as long as you take you tablets/injections regularly, and attend the appointments your meant to, you'll be fine. There's plenty of diabetic stuff out there foodwise, but you don't need to stick to it rigidly, you will still have a perfectly normal quality of life providing you take your medication and attend the necessary appointments. A small tip-if you get a cold or need to go to the pharmacist for any kind of medication, always check with the pharmacist/assistant whether you can take it. Diabetics shouldn't take some medications. phew, that's it. I think!

Some great info mate.:aok:

Other reading here. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diabetes-type2/Pages/Living-with.aspx

Baldy Foghorn
13-05-2017, 07:47 AM
My wife's diabetic. There'll be plenty of tablets to take, such as Metformin, Ramprol and Glycoside, but as long as you take them when you're meant to, you'll be fine. Some type 2's, like my wife, have to inject themsleves with insulin, but you might not have to do that, you might get the tablets instead. Your blood sugar level's the important thing too, if you get too low (7 is the average for people without diabetes, but diabetics often have a higher blood sugar level than that) you run the risk of getting a 'hypo,' which can be dangerous and can in some cases bring about a coma. If you feel you're getting that way you need to take something with sugar, a mars bar for example, just to get your sugar level back up. The doc'll keep you right about most of that though. Once a year you'll get an appointment to get your eyes checked, and another appointment you'll get will be for feet. Don't miss them, they're important. If a diabetic bangs their foot they actually run the risk of amputation in some cases, extreme as that sounds.

Bottom line, as long as you take you tablets/injections regularly, and attend the appointments your meant to, you'll be fine. There's plenty of diabetic stuff out there foodwise, but you don't need to stick to it rigidly, you will still have a perfectly normal quality of life providing you take your medication and attend the necessary appointments. A small tip-if you get a cold or need to go to the pharmacist for any kind of medication, always check with the pharmacist/assistant whether you can take it. Diabetics shouldn't take some medications. phew, that's it. I think!

Chocolate is not the best thing for treating hypos, as it takes time to absorb the sugar. Best thing is lucozade or a sweet drink like coke etc, as it works straight away

PapillonVert
13-05-2017, 08:57 AM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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Watch your diet. Try to cut down on carbs, especially refined carbs. So, cut down on bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, cakes, biscuits (I know all the things we love to eat). White rice apparently sends the blood sugar sky high and it stays high for longer than usual so should be avoided as much as possible.

Beer is quite high in carbs. Wine (red and dry) and spirits less so but you need to try and stay within safe limited. So, alcohol not banned but should be restricted.

Even unrefined carbs (porridge, wholemeal bread) can raise the blood sugar levels so restrict the amount you take.

Lean meats, fish, cheese do not affect blood sugar. Go for low-carb veg. You can eat fruit but be careful - two or three pieces a day max. Try to avoid high-sugar fruits like bananas, pineapple, mangoes, even grapes, or eat only occasionally. Berries are good. Apples, oranges, pears also. Avoid fruit juice as it is basically pure sugar and goes straight into the bloodstream. Better to have a piece of fruit which contains fibre which slows down the absorption of the sugar.

A good cookbook I have found is "The 8-week blood sugar diet recipe book" by Dr. Clare Bailey with Dr. Sarah Schenker (available in Sainsbury's and also from Amazon and probably from Waterstone's).

The NHS nutritionists tend to come out with received wisdom which has been somewhat discredited by recent research (emphasises eating carbs, for instance, which is now considered wrong by a lot of physicians).

When shopping, check the carb content of everything. Even so-called healthy yoghurt can be laden with sugar. 4g of carb is the equivalent of one teaspoon of sugar and so some yoghurts can contain the equivalent of 4 - 5 teaspoons of sugar. Soups, beans and other things you might consider healthy can also contain a lot of sugar or sugar-equivalent carbs (carbs are converted into sugar in the bloodstream and so don't be fooled by labels which give carb content and also sugar content).

Finally, attend all your GP appointments, get your blood tested regularly, your eyes screened, your feet checked.

Stay positive. A diagnosis of Type 2 diabetes is not a death sentence. Assuming you look after yourself, you can live a normal life.

ekhibee
13-05-2017, 10:58 AM
Chocolate is not the best thing for treating hypos, as it takes time to absorb the sugar. Best thing is lucozade or a sweet drink like coke etc, as it works straight away
You're probably right, I'm just going with what my wife does. It seems to work for her, and fast too. She stays away from coke because of the (supposed) negative effects of aspartmine, but that's unrelated to diabetes. And she hates lucozade lol.

PapillonVert
13-05-2017, 11:08 AM
You're probably right, I'm just going with what my wife does. It seems to work for her, and fast too. She stays away from coke because of the (supposed) negative effects of aspartmine, but that's unrelated to diabetes. And she hates lucozade lol.

Or you can buy Gluco Tabs (available from Sainsbury's) which contain fast-acting glucose.

7062
13-05-2017, 11:28 AM
My wife is type 1. We have mini cans of Coke in the fridge at all times. Apparently that's about the right amount of sugar to have and I think it's a pretty fast way of getting it into the system.

To the OP. Keep your chin up. You're probably going to have a few rough days. If you keep an eye on what you're eating/drinking it should be manageable.

WeeRussell
13-05-2017, 12:14 PM
From my time working with medical insurance (a few years ago right enough) I'd say it's generally a lot easier to manage with less effect on your daily life, than if you had type 1, assuming no complications.

Follow the doc's orders, which will help you maintain a decent control (hba1c reading probably?).. quite often type 2 is diet controlled with no, or very little, medication. It may not change much for you with the exception of some of your diet and excerise (which more of us could do with improving in any case!) and the occasional trip to get readings and ensure everything is being well managed.

Getting diagnosed with anything is never nice, but just take time to understand what it means for you and how you need to adapt. All the best mate!

Colr
13-05-2017, 12:30 PM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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Bloke I work with reversed it by cutting iut carbs. Good way to lose weight in any case which should help.

Jim44
13-05-2017, 12:35 PM
Get yourself a BG monitor. The Codefree one from Amazon is the cheapest with the cheapest test strips. Using this sensibly can tell you which food is to be avoided or taken in moderation.

bingo70
13-05-2017, 12:37 PM
Jelly babies also good for raising blood levels quickly. 4 normally enough to get the job done.

ekhibee
13-05-2017, 01:01 PM
Should also have mentioned travel insurance, it shoots up if your diabetic.

Lago
13-05-2017, 01:10 PM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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Good diet, loose weight & reduce alcohol consumption.

SanFranHibs
13-05-2017, 01:15 PM
Good diet, loose weight & reduce alcohol consumption.

You don't want too much loose weight. That's why I do stomach exercises.

AllyT
13-05-2017, 01:36 PM
I have been type 2 for 7 years now. Best advice I can give you is lose weight. I've lost around 10kg and it has really lowered my blood sugar levels. Exercise is also good but you don't need to go mad, a brisk 20 minutes + walk per day will do wonders. Good luck.

mattyjacklegend
13-05-2017, 02:41 PM
I have been type 2 for 7 years now. Best advice I can give you is lose weight. I've lost around 10kg and it has really lowered my blood sugar levels. Exercise is also good but you don't need to go mad, a brisk 20 minutes + walk per day will do wonders. Good luck.

Aye, hibs are good eh 😉

HibbiesandtheBaddies
13-05-2017, 03:10 PM
Me too 3 years ago.
Take yer meds, eat healthy, take it easy wi the bevy, stop smoking, lose weight and cut out all the tasty stuff. Ye might no' actually live longer but it will f***in' well feel like it. :greengrin

:greengrin

hibby6270
13-05-2017, 03:11 PM
Mrs Hibby6270 has been Type 2 diabetic for about 3 years now and having to inject insulin daily to keep sugar levels steady. She's recently changed to once a week injection instead of the daily injections and that has definitely helped.

As most have said, watching your diet is the main thing. Doesn't mean you have to give up everything you enjoy eating & drinking but moderation and common sense are key.

Not sure where you're based but if in Edinburgh, the diabetes nurses at Western General are great. Always available on the end of the phone during the day if you have any questions.

On an even more local level, there is a great 1 day course you can go on. In Leith it's held at the Medical Centre just off Great Junction Street (next to Victoria Baths). Pretty sure though the same sort of thing will be available at other Health/Medical centres wherever you live. I went along with Mrs H6270 just to 'educate' myself on what Diabetes was about and how to live with it. Close family need to know what it's all about, not just yourself.

All the best.

telford hibbee
13-05-2017, 03:47 PM
Not read all the posts on here but an increase in execerise is a massive help. And we are only talking walking as opposed to a gym membership. Wish I could take my own advice mind you.

Baldy Foghorn
13-05-2017, 03:47 PM
Been type 1 for 31 years, it doesn't get any easier

fatbloke
13-05-2017, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=cammy1969;5041355]Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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been Type2 for about 18 years. As said before probs lots of tablets to take. Best way is all things in moderation, bin most chocolate and sugar loaded things. However, watch sugar free and similar stuff which can be loaded with sugar by other names like sucrose and others. Try to keep your weight down, test your blood sugars regularly, get in touch with practice nurse at your surgery and be advised by him/her and don't ignore any other symptoms of Type 2. Good luck.

fatbloke
13-05-2017, 04:03 PM
Get yourself a BG monitor. The Codefree one from Amazon is the cheapest with the cheapest test strips. Using this sensibly can tell you which food is to be avoided or taken in moderation.
Get a free machine online and test strips should be free on NHS.

TRC
13-05-2017, 04:12 PM
Been type 1 for 27 years, hypos best treated for me with a sugary drink a small bit of chocolate then a bit of toast and some milk, this helps with a double dip hypo that can creep up again if your sugar is still falling. Have a look at diabetes UK forum as well always tons of discussion going on

WindyMiller
13-05-2017, 05:00 PM
Been type 2 since 2004. Take the tablets, reduce your weight, take a bit more exercise.

My weight was stable for years (18 kg lost over 12 years) but at my yearly check the nurse asked if I could drop my carb. intake. I love bread and rolls so decided the beer had to go, I've lost 5 kg. since the start of March.

Best of luck.

Jim44
13-05-2017, 05:33 PM
Get a free machine online and test strips should be free on NHS.

I don't think you're right. Type 2 diabetics won't get a monitor or strips unless they are taking insulin or in danger of hypos. The monitor is about £14 and the strips £7.50 for 50 on Amazon.

hibbiedon
13-05-2017, 05:53 PM
Diagnosed type 2 two years ago, diet controlled but didn't take it serious, put on tablets in December last year then had to double the dose in march, reviewed again next week. If you get the chance join FFIT, it has to be a lifestyle change Best of luck

speedy_gonzales
13-05-2017, 05:56 PM
Whilst not directly related to your diabetes we (wife & I) decided to try and shift some weight. After much research and looking in to the science of it, we chose a LCHF or low carb high fat diet.
Apart from weight falling off (I lost 2 stone in 2 months, wife lost closer to 3,,,but she had more to lose "insert smiley face") the biggest revelation was my wife's astronomical blood pressure dropping to normal levels meaning she could come off her meds for the first time in 13 years and our blood sugars dropping.
As others have said, beer/bread/rice/pasta/root veg are high on carbs and carbohydrate is basically science speak for sugar!

cammy1969
13-05-2017, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the advice guys a few things will have to change from life style but am sure being sensible is a big part of dealing with it thanks again


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CraigHibee
13-05-2017, 07:17 PM
I'm type 2 bud, got diagnosed 2009, felt like I was on a 3 day hangover before I got it confirmed. Try and watch the carbs, sugar, chocolate, bread etc, all in moderation.

I was in denial for ages with it, never took it seriously then ny brother in law died from complications with his type 1 then it hit me. Plenty of resources and forums online that can help with any questions etc that you have.

I've been doing a low carb diet the last fee months and lost 2 stone, been on and off the diet as it's not easy being good 110% of the time.

I use this site quite a lot and you can sign up for the newsletter, loads of similar folk use the forum and definitely worth signing up for bud

http://www.diabetes.co.uk

jdships
13-05-2017, 07:53 PM
Me too 3 years ago.
Take yer meds, eat healthy, take it easy wi the bevy, stop smoking, lose weight and cut out all the tasty stuff. Ye might no' actually live longer but it will f***in' well feel like it. :greengrin

:thumbsup:
Spot on!!
Have been " Diabetic for 20 years plus
I take two " Metformin " tablets morning and night pus a blood sugar ncheck evry sixmonts at my GP
" Everyting in moderatio " is the watchword!!
Coming up 85 and i roes not mak a great dael of difference to my lifestyle

Good Luck and " Live your life! :aok:

Forthview
13-05-2017, 09:59 PM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]


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T2 myself mate.
Take your meds and get into a low carbs lifestyle, swap beer for Cuba libre made with coke zero, life will still be good.

Jim44
14-05-2017, 08:34 AM
I don't think you're right. Type 2 diabetics won't get a monitor or strips unless they are taking insulin or in danger of hypos. The monitor is about £14 and the strips £7.50 for 50 on Amazon.

Can I qualify my post. Apparently some practices willprescribe test strips but, I believe, not all ......... seems to be a postcode lottery type of situation.

J-C
14-05-2017, 11:10 AM
If you're borderline, then it can be reversed by losing weight, getting fit and diet, even if it's not these 3 things are a must. I've been told im borderline level 2 and it can be reversed during early stages with these 3 things, it all depends what level your stage 2 is but deffo diet and exercise.

SRHibs
14-05-2017, 11:54 AM
Been type 1 for 31 years, it doesn't get any easier

I don't envy you. My ex was type 1 and even if you attempt to control it and are meticulous in doing so, it's still hard to keep your blood sugar at a decent level. Too high would affect her mood and make her nauseous and too low is obviously dangerous. On the plus side, there were always Fruit Pastilles to hand when I was with her!

Pedantic_Hibee
14-05-2017, 12:01 PM
Me too 3 years ago.
Take yer meds, eat healthy, take it easy wi the bevy, stop smoking, lose weight and cut out all the tasty stuff. Ye might no' actually live longer but it will f***in' well feel like it. :greengrin

:faf:

houstonhibbee
14-05-2017, 01:21 PM
If you're borderline, then it can be reversed by losing weight, getting fit and diet, even if it's not these 3 things are a must. I've been told im borderline level 2 and it can be reversed during early stages with these 3 things, it all depends what level your stage 2 is but deffo diet and exercise.
Who is telling you all this?

not sure it's accurate

borderline is no longer used. It's early onset

reversedvindicates you can get rid of it but that's not the case

as you say with diet and exercise it certainly can be controlled and your a1c can go down

good control means that it doesn't get worse and you will live longer without getting the complications that can lead to loss of eyesight and limbs

J-C
14-05-2017, 03:28 PM
Who is telling you all this?

not sure it's accurate

borderline is no longer used. It's early onset

reversedvindicates you can get rid of it but that's not the case

as you say with diet and exercise it certainly can be controlled and your a1c can go down

good control means that it doesn't get worse and you will live longer without getting the complications that can lead to loss of eyesight and limbs

I'll just tell the nurse at the practice she's talking pap then.

My reading upon fasting was 6.2, the normal non diabetic reading is between 4 and 6, this was my second test and the result was the same, just slightly above the 6. I asked what was next, she said diet and exercise initially to try and bring the level down below 6 and that with strict diet and a weight loss exercise regime it can be reversed or at least levels dropped where medication will not be needed.

I had a very active life up until 4 years ago where I had both hips done within a couple of years of each other and I had become sedentary, as this has only happened with the last 3 years I had a good chance to reverse my blood sugar levels.

houstonhibbee
14-05-2017, 04:01 PM
I'll just tell the nurse at the practice she's talking pap then.

My reading upon fasting was 6.2, the normal non diabetic reading is between 4 and 6, this was my second test and the result was the same, just slightly above the 6. I asked what was next, she said diet and exercise initially to try and bring the level down below 6 and that with strict diet and a weight loss exercise regime it can be reversed or at least levels dropped where medication will not be needed.

I had a very active life up until 4 years ago where I had both hips done within a couple of years of each other and I had become sedentary, as this has only happened with the last 3 years I had a good chance to reverse my blood sugar levels.
your blood sugar levels can go up or down and with the lifestyle changes and potentially medication if required you can lower them to within normal ranges which means you are increasing your life expectancy, but you will not be rid of type 2 once you have it. It can be controlled. Reversing indicates you can go back to a condition where you no longer have type 2 which is not the case.

Why are you getting advice from a nurse and not a doctor?

my range is usually between 6.4 and 7.2. But managed to get it down to 5.8 recently. But that doesn't mean its gone away, still need to work at the diet and exercise plus I take Metformin and also have hypothyroidism which cam mean extreme tiredness if not balanced by meds.

Sound like you have a long and healthy life to live and a few more scottish cup wins to witness yet!

J-C
14-05-2017, 04:31 PM
your blood sugar levels can go up or down and with the lifestyle changes and potentially medication if required you can lower them to within normal ranges which means you are increasing your life expectancy, but you will not be rid of type 2 once you have it. It can be controlled. Reversing indicates you can go back to a condition where you no longer have type 2 which is not the case.

Why are you getting advice from a nurse and not a doctor?

my range is usually between 6.4 and 7.2. But managed to get it down to 5.8 recently. But that doesn't mean its gone away, still need to work at the diet and exercise plus I take Metformin and also have hypothyroidism which cam mean extreme tiredness if not balanced by meds.

Sound like you have a long and healthy life to live and a few more scottish cup wins to witness yet!


Because my readings were right on the borderline, 1st reading was 7.9 but was after my breakfast, the second was on an empty stomach and was 5.8, she thought it was still slightly high and wanted to see it down to 4-5. So because I've not been officially diagnosed as diabetic, she wanted to see me dieting and exercising to se if the levels come down significantly.

There are many doctors who specialise in diabetics who say it can be reversed but not in all cases, they say levels can be dropped significantly to healthy levels, particularly if caught early doors.

houstonhibbee
14-05-2017, 06:34 PM
Because my readings were right on the borderline, 1st reading was 7.9 but was after my breakfast, the second was on an empty stomach and was 5.8, she thought it was still slightly high and wanted to see it down to 4-5. So because I've not been officially diagnosed as diabetic, she wanted to see me dieting and exercising to se if the levels come down significantly.

There are many doctors who specialise in diabetics who say it can be reversed but not in all cases, they say levels can be dropped significantly to healthy levels, particularly if caught early doors.


Agree with all that. Also if you are classed as type 2 typically you have your A1C measured by blood sample every three months which gives a more accurate picture overall rather than testing after meals, morning, before bed etc

I was diagnosed about 10 years ago and was caught early. I find it difficult with the diet side of it but seem to have managed it reasonably well so far. I try and avoid beer - stick to wine and the odd whisky - and stopped smoking which was a major achievement after 30 years!

J-C
14-05-2017, 09:07 PM
Agree with all that. Also if you are classed as type 2 typically you have your A1C measured by blood sample every three months which gives a more accurate picture overall rather than testing after meals, morning, before bed etc

I was diagnosed about 10 years ago and was caught early. I find it difficult with the diet side of it but seem to have managed it reasonably well so far. I try and avoid beer - stick to wine and the odd whisky - and stopped smoking which was a major achievement after 30 years!


I trained for 39 years, Rugby, American football and latterly natural bodybuilding and I also qualified as a PT specialising on sports nutrition. It all went tits up when working as a PT in Edinburgh I discovered I had arthritis in my hips and have had both done, the right done 4 years ago and since then I've became a lazy sod doing nowt and put 4 stone on. :greengrin

Diet started and exercise began, back to eating chicken, sweet pots and broccoli and will see the nurse in a couple of months time.

houstonhibbee
14-05-2017, 09:27 PM
I trained for 39 years, Rugby, American football and latterly natural bodybuilding and I also qualified as a PT specialising on sports nutrition. It all went tits up when working as a PT in Edinburgh I discovered I had arthritis in my hips and have had both done, the right done 4 years ago and since then I've became a lazy sod doing nowt and put 4 stone on. :greengrin

Diet started and exercise began, back to eating chicken, sweet pots and broccoli and will see the nurse in a couple of months time.
Secret to weight reduction as previously stated by others is low carbs. "Just" cut out the pasta, pizza, white bread, potatoes, snacks and most fruit and you should start losing weight. And soda. Stick to water - it's great!

Sounds like you have a soft spot for that nurse!!

J-C
14-05-2017, 10:09 PM
Secret to weight reduction as previously stated by others is low carbs. "Just" cut out the pasta, pizza, white bread, potatoes, snacks and most fruit and you should start losing weight. And soda. Stick to water - it's great!

Sounds like you have a soft spot for that nurse!!


Did you not read I am a qualified Sorts nutritionist :greengrin


18603

This was me in 2006 getting 2nd in the Scottish Natural Bodybuilding Championships Masters, the blood test just gave me the kick up the bum I needed to get fit again. No saturated fat, sugars and fizzy drinks as you say, low carbs medium protein and medium fats.

Oh and the nurse is deffo not my type, old and frumpy.

houstonhibbee
14-05-2017, 10:17 PM
Did you not read I am a qualified Sorts nutritionist :greengrin


18603

This was me in 2006 getting 2nd in the Scottish Natural Bodybuilding Championships Masters, the blood test just gave me the kick up the bum I needed to get fit again. No saturated fat, sugars and fizzy drinks as you say, low carbs medium protein and medium fats.

Oh and the nurse is deffo not my type, old and frumpy.

sorry preaching to the converted. Seriously is that you?

Forthview
14-05-2017, 10:28 PM
If you view online diabetes forums the general perception is that the advice and guidance you get from GPs and in particular the practice nurses is dreadful, they work on the basis that a 'one size fits all' approach is best for everybody. Reality is all diabetic's bodies are different and need specific treatment, speaking from experience you just don't get it. Some good advice here though. BTW, if you now have diabetes you will always be diabetic. Don't panic, there's loads of blogs and forums out there, read as much as you can.

houstonhibbee
14-05-2017, 10:38 PM
If you view online diabetes forums the general perception is that the advice and guidance you get from GPs and in particular the practice nurses is dreadful, they work on the basis that a 'one size fits all' approach is best for everybody. Reality is all diabetic's bodies are different and need specific treatment, speaking from experience you just don't get it. Some good advice here though. BTW, if you now have diabetes you will always be diabetic. Don't panic, there's loads of blogs and forums out there, read as much as you can.
Type 2 typically means that your body is not producing enough insulin - and will never do once it gets to that point. By careful control can avoid it worsening to the point you need to start injecting. I know some people that dont want to take meds and it is possible in some cases to control it through exercise and diet alone.
I believe good monitoring is the key to understand how you are doing in managing it.
Apart from anything else when you get to 50 plus good diet and exercise should be the norm in any case to avoid heart disease etc so maybe not so bad after all if it forces you to make those lifestyle changes. Better late than never. :wink:
Managing to quit smoking after 30 years was a major achievement for me!

J-C
15-05-2017, 05:56 AM
sorry preaching to the converted. Seriously is that you?

Yep that's me aged 47, in all my glory with fake tan and posing briefs :greengrin, 14 weeks diet, 5% BF and a 28" waist, weight was 11st 7lbs. I generally trained at around 12st 10lbs.

Fast forward 10 years and I've had both hips done, back driving a taxi instead of training people and added 4+ stones in weight, this is only been since my second hip, hence why getting fit and getting the diet going again will see me reverse the slightly high sugar levels, not fully diabetic but damn close enough to make me think.

Oscar T Grouch
15-05-2017, 07:04 AM
I've been T1 for 26 years now. While T1 and T2 are totally different conditions I will say the only time I feel 100% is when I'm on a healthy diet and I'm taking regular exercise. My friend got diagnosed with T2 a few years back, he decided to change his life around. He started exercising and changed to a healthy diet. He stuck to it, lost 18kg and his doctor says his bloods are of a non diabetic now. He is also happier than I've ever known him. So good exercise and diet are the best way to treat T2. It's also the best way to control T1, I'm currently doing this and with this mornings an exception by blood sugar has stayed reasonabley low.

Bill Milne
15-05-2017, 07:56 AM
I have been Type 2 for 21 years now. As some posters have said, moderation and exercise are the key to a healthy life style. Sadly, I didn't follow my own advice and I am now on insulin.

houstonhibbee
15-05-2017, 08:40 AM
I have been Type 2 for 21 years now. As some posters have said, moderation and exercise are the key to a healthy life style. Sadly, I didn't follow my own advice and I am now on insulin.
Sorry to hear that
does taking insulin make a huge difference? How long have you been on insulin? Do you do diet and exercise more now?

The_Exile
15-05-2017, 09:11 AM
Been type 1 for 27 years. Type 1 and Type 2 are completely different conditions but some generic stuff can be advised for both. You'll likely need to break any and all bad habits, no smoking, you can drink but not heavily, the odd gin and slimline tonic won't kill you, always use 'diet' mixers. Alcohol can raise your sugar level then crash it later on so if you want to avoid a world of pain just don't get hammered.

Exercise is vital, even if it's half an hour on the exercise bike in the living room every couple of days, it all helps. I was quite lucky in that I was diagnosed at 7 years old so haven't known any different really, have known a couple of folk who were diagnosed Type 1 in adulthood and they have had some horrendous complications as human beings are creatures of habit. Breaking bad habits and adopting new healthy ones are key, and no-one but you can really commit to that, the party lifestyle has to stop I'm afraid mate, get a cosy blanket and a Netflix subscription :greengrin

Hypos require fast acting glucose to snap out of quickly, don't take chocolate as that takes ages to absorb because of the high fat content, you might feel like you're coming out the hypo but it's purely a placebo effect. Have some Lucozade in the fridge just incase, if you don't like Lucozade, the wee energy gels that cyclists use are also great and come in a range of flavours. When your hypo some folk experience the hypo hunger monster, it's like when you're really thirsty and you down a pint of water in second. You get this feeling of "I must eat a s***load of sugary stuff at once!", try to resist that and just have around 20 grams of fast acting carbs, otherwise your sugar level will be bouncing around all day and you'll feel absolutely terrible.

Good luck, if you're based in Edinburgh then we're really lucky to have one of, if not THE countries leading diabetes team on our doorstep and you're in good hands. Seems to be plenty folk on here with experience too.

Bill Milne
16-05-2017, 09:49 AM
Sorry to hear that
does taking insulin make a huge difference? How long have you been on insulin? Do you do diet and exercise more now?

On insulin for roughly 3 years, it helps to moderate levels but, as time goes by (I'm 61), my body gets less capable of self-help! I do my best on exercise front but the desire to take a pint gets the better of me, I'm afraid.

danhibees1875
16-05-2017, 01:07 PM
Chocolate is not the best thing for treating hypos, as it takes time to absorb the sugar. Best thing is lucozade or a sweet drink like coke etc, as it works straight away

Interestingly, I read an article this morning about the new sugar taxes coming into play and how drink companies were taking early action and drastically cutting the amount of sugar in their drinks. I've no idea why this isn't something they'd advertise heavily (making their drinks healthier) but it was noted that people who rely on grabbing a quick bottle of Lucozade might not then get as much sugar as they would expect.

One to watch out for if people have tried and tested foods/drinks they rely on.

ekhibee
16-05-2017, 04:11 PM
Interestingly, I read an article this morning about the new sugar taxes coming into play and how drink companies were taking early action and drastically cutting the amount of sugar in their drinks. I've no idea why this isn't something they'd advertise heavily (making their drinks healthier) but it was noted that people who rely on grabbing a quick bottle of Lucozade might not then get as much sugar as they would expect.

One to watch out for if people have tried and tested foods/drinks they rely on.
Yep, also worth watching out for Aspartame as one of the ingredients in some fizzy drinks, it has been linked to MS apparently.

Baldy Foghorn
16-05-2017, 04:33 PM
Interestingly, I read an article this morning about the new sugar taxes coming into play and how drink companies were taking early action and drastically cutting the amount of sugar in their drinks. I've no idea why this isn't something they'd advertise heavily (making their drinks healthier) but it was noted that people who rely on grabbing a quick bottle of Lucozade might not then get as much sugar as they would expect.

One to watch out for if people have tried and tested foods/drinks they rely on.

Think Lucozade have already started reducing sugar in their drinks Dan? I could be wrong though.

danhibees1875
16-05-2017, 04:36 PM
Think Lucozade have already started reducing sugar in their drinks Dan? I could be wrong though.
Yeah, but I don't think everyone knows about it and it's not very well highlighted it seems. :aok:

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Baldy Foghorn
16-05-2017, 04:44 PM
Yeah, but I don't think everyone knows about it and it's not very well highlighted it seems. :aok:

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Pretty poor really, if having a hypo and drinking Lucozade, which is lesser in sugar (if you weren't aware). It really should be highlighted on the packaging

Oscar T Grouch
16-05-2017, 05:00 PM
I use gloucose tablets when I hypo. Three of them and a wee sandwich and all is good. Never liked sugary drinks. I did managed to get down to 2.2 today after my lunchtime walk had to eat digestive biscuit as I run out of tabs 🙈Sorta ruins the diet when you need to eat sugar 😡

Jim44
16-05-2017, 05:14 PM
I've read that a few jelly babies are a good source of sugar for hypos.:dunno:

bingo70
16-05-2017, 05:22 PM
I've read that a few jelly babies are a good source of sugar for hypos.:dunno:

Aye, from me earlier on this thread? 😂

My wife is type 1 and that's what the doctors recommended to her when she was pregnant, 4 should be enough. Word of warning though, she fell into a diabetic coma shortly after having jelly babies trying to fix a hypo, when the paramedics arrived they were annoyed she tried to fix it with jelly babies, if it's a bad hypo you're having then they aren't suitable as don't work quick enough apparently.

I'm trying to help her (and shed some of my massive gut) by going on a High fat low carbs diet and I bloody hate it, breakfast and dinners are great but I'd murder someone for a packet of crisps or a chocolate bar right now and I'm only 2 days in.

Fair play to anyone who can stick to this sort of diet.

Jim44
16-05-2017, 07:27 PM
Aye, from me earlier on this thread? 😂

My wife is type 1 and that's what the doctors recommended to her when she was pregnant, 4 should be enough. Word of warning though, she fell into a diabetic coma shortly after having jelly babies trying to fix a hypo, when the paramedics arrived they were annoyed she tried to fix it with jelly babies, if it's a bad hypo you're having then they aren't suitable as don't work quick enough apparently.

I'm trying to help her (and shed some of my massive gut) by going on a High fat low carbs diet and I bloody hate it, breakfast and dinners are great but I'd murder someone for a packet of crisps or a chocolate bar right now and I'm only 2 days in.

Fair play to anyone who can stick to this sort of diet.

Really dark 90%+ cocoa chocolate, like Lindt or Green and Blacks,in moderation, is worth trying.

speedy_gonzales
16-05-2017, 08:08 PM
I'm trying to help her (and shed some of my massive gut) by going on a High fat low carbs diet and I bloody hate it, breakfast and dinners are great but I'd murder someone for a packet of crisps or a chocolate bar right now and I'm only 2 days in.

Fair play to anyone who can stick to this sort of diet.


Really dark 90%+ cocoa chocolate, like Lindt or Green and Blacks,in moderation, is worth trying.

I buy the small packs of Bellarom dark chocolate from Lidl's. They're 40 gram bars and are 43.3g of carbs per 100g, so 17.3g per bar.

I've been doing low carb since the turn of the year and if you plan your meals well it needn't be that difficult.
I recently found low carb pancakes (egg/cream cheese/cinnamon/stevia) which I have with bacon at the weekend, makes me feel a little more normal and a little less diet fanatic!

Colr
19-05-2017, 05:45 AM
I buy the small packs of Bellarom dark chocolate from Lidl's. They're 40 gram bars and are 43.3g of carbs per 100g, so 17.3g per bar.

I've been doing low carb since the turn of the year and if you plan your meals well it needn't be that difficult.
I recently found low carb pancakes (egg/cream cheese/cinnamon/stevia) which I have with bacon at the weekend, makes me feel a little more normal and a little less diet fanatic!
I've been doing low carb for a while as well and agree that its been the easiest diet to do.
Don't bother with trendy cloud bread, though. Its rubbish!!

Colr
19-05-2017, 05:48 AM
Aye, from me earlier on this thread? 😂

My wife is type 1 and that's what the doctors recommended to her when she was pregnant, 4 should be enough. Word of warning though, she fell into a diabetic coma shortly after having jelly babies trying to fix a hypo, when the paramedics arrived they were annoyed she tried to fix it with jelly babies, if it's a bad hypo you're having then they aren't suitable as don't work quick enough apparently.

I'm trying to help her (and shed some of my massive gut) by going on a High fat low carbs diet and I bloody hate it, breakfast and dinners are great but I'd murder someone for a packet of crisps or a chocolate bar right now and I'm only 2 days in.

Fair play to anyone who can stick to this sort of diet.

I felt a bit light headed for the first week or so but that went and I got used to it. If I'm losing weight I go quite low calorie but I can feel a bit under-nourished after 6 weeks so have to give it a break.

RIP
25-05-2017, 04:41 PM
Hay guys ave just been diagnosed type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago, which explains how ave felt for last 8-9 months 48 years old just put it down to getting old lived a party life for 30-35 years. Any tips for does n don'ts from anyone with disabilities mucho [emoji106]

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Cammy

I'm 60 and was diagnosed Type 2 in April last year. I had been near to falling asleep at work, couldn't work out what was wrong. I can relate to the party life a bit although gave up the Don Revie a few years ago to the benefit of my health.

I did the eye checks, cholesterol checks, feet checks and was referred to Diabetes classes. Nurse insisted I start on tablets. I asked how long for and she said syne die. Bugger that thought I so I sought a second opinion from the GP. He gave me 2 months grace to try diet, exercise.

I lost 2 stone and every day now walk 10,000 steps, drink 2 litres of fluid, eat 5-6 bits of fruit and apart from one luxury day per week, eat no processed food whatsoever. My gut and appetite have shrunk to the point where I can no longer manage a 3 course meal but that's more than compensated by taste buds that really savour all food now.

Big lifestyle change but never started the tablets and my readings moved to green by the time of my second 2 month check. Give it a try bud, may extend your life by ten years. Word of warning though. Mrs Cammy will have to put up with you chasing her around the boudoir a bit more :devil:

green leaves
31-05-2017, 05:45 PM
Sorry not got time to read the whole thread so apologies if someone has already posted this,go to the My diabetes My way site and sign up.It makes a few weeks to set the account up but it gives you access to your diabetic medical records along with really good advice.

cabbageandribs1875
01-06-2017, 01:02 AM
Sorry not got time to read the whole thread so apologies if someone has already posted this,go to the My diabetes My way site and sign up.It makes a few weeks to set the account up but it gives you access to your diabetic medical records along with really good advice.


very helpful site :agree: coincidentally got e-mail from them yesterday regarding the sugar difference in Lucozade


for all that's mentioned lucozade etc for hypos

Lucozade News
Individuals who rely on Lucozade to treat hypos (hypoglycaemia) are being advised to check the labels of the energy drink as the amount of sugar per 100ml has significantly reduced. This change was implemented in April 2017 and will apply to all Lucozade flavours as well as the original drink. Previously, 100ml of Lucozade Original contained 17g of carbohydrate and this will be reduced to 8.9g. People who experience hypos are advised to drink 15-20g of rapid acting carbohydrate to treat their low blood sugar.

Suggested replacements for hypo treatment are as follows:
1. 200ml of concentrate orange juice
2. 4-5 Large Jelly Babies
3. 4-6 Glucose tablets
4. X2 tubes of glucogel
5. 150 – 200mls non diet fizzy juices (however these might also be subject to change in the future)

don't know others thoughts on the glucose tablets but myself and daughter(both type 1) never use the glucose tablets for treating quite a severe hypo, they take ages to work but i do always have a packet on me just for taking 1-2 at the first feelings of possibly going hypo

Colr
02-06-2017, 11:05 AM
very helpful site :agree: coincidentally got e-mail from them yesterday regarding the sugar difference in Lucozade


for all that's mentioned lucozade etc for hypos

Lucozade News
Individuals who rely on Lucozade to treat hypos (hypoglycaemia) are being advised to check the labels of the energy drink as the amount of sugar per 100ml has significantly reduced. This change was implemented in April 2017 and will apply to all Lucozade flavours as well as the original drink. Previously, 100ml of Lucozade Original contained 17g of carbohydrate and this will be reduced to 8.9g. People who experience hypos are advised to drink 15-20g of rapid acting carbohydrate to treat their low blood sugar.

Suggested replacements for hypo treatment are as follows:
1. 200ml of concentrate orange juice
2. 4-5 Large Jelly Babies
3. 4-6 Glucose tablets
4. X2 tubes of glucogel
5. 150 – 200mls non diet fizzy juices (however these might also be subject to change in the future)

don't know others thoughts on the glucose tablets but myself and daughter(both type 1) never use the glucose tablets for treating quite a severe hypo, they take ages to work but i do always have a packet on me just for taking 1-2 at the first feelings of possibly going hypo


Great for exams, though!