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Hibrandenburg
11-05-2017, 10:02 PM
I've got a mate who sleeps 4 hrs a day and is still a fully functioning human being. He swears the secret is to make sure it's only 4 hrs otherwise he's knackered the whole day. 4 hrs good 3 hrs or 5 bad.
Me? I work shifts so sometimes the alarm goes at 4am and sometimes it goes at 4pm but no matter when it goes it's pointless for me to go to bed before midnight, otherwise I can't sleep.
Anyone else have weird sleeping habits?
frazeHFC
12-05-2017, 12:28 AM
I remember speaking this guy (very weird individual) at a party when I was at Uni in Dundee. He said that during exam time he sleeps/revises in 20 minute shifts through the night. He'll set his alarm every 20 mins from 10pm-8am and will revise for 20 then sleep for 20 and so on.
Me and a mate questioned this but he said its the best way to retain information. One of the strangest people I've ever met and this story has stuck in my head ever since.
danhibees1875
12-05-2017, 05:11 AM
Nothing too weird, but I do keep on meaning to try to change my sleeping pattern to try to get more sleep. I generally fall asleep between 12-1 and my alarm gets me up at 7. I never particularly sleep in, at weekends I'll usually wake up not long after 7 unless I was particularly tired.
I feel I should stop setting my alarm as I'm confident I'll wake up on time naturally - and feel much better for it.
Peevemor
12-05-2017, 05:26 AM
I've got a mate who sleeps 4 hrs a day and is still a fully functioning human being. He swears the secret is to make sure it's only 4 hrs otherwise he's knackered the whole day. 4 hrs good 3 hrs or 5 bad.
Me? I work shifts so sometimes the alarm goes at 4am and sometimes it goes at 4pm but no matter when it goes it's pointless for me to go to bed before midnight, otherwise I can't sleep.
Anyone else have weird sleeping habits?
There's a theory that sleep works best in a 4 hour cycle and that 4 or 8 hours, being complete cycles, will leave you feeling better than, say 7 or 9 hours.
I normally go to bed at 2:00am and get up at 6:45 (9:30 at weekends), though I sometimes nod off on the couch depending how crap the tv is.
While most of you are just getting up I'm finishing off my glass of wine and am about to slink off to bed. Usually get to bed around half seven and wake up around three as I'm permanent nightshift...which is the way I like it. I've tried rotating shifts and sleeping patterns and that's the worst.
I was about to say that I get woken up regularly, say around four or five times a "day" but I'm just used to it and I'm still fresh when I wake up for some reason. I can't imagine being a day person and being woken up so many times during my sleep.
Maybe there's something in that four hour theory as there is definitely a four hour window where I'm in the deepest sleep imaginable. There could be bright sunlight, roadworks outside, blazing arguments in the same room but I'm out regardless.
Pretty Boy
12-05-2017, 05:54 AM
I can't lie in. I get up at 6.40 every day for work and don't set an alarm as I wake at 6.35 on the dot every morning. Weekends are the same, wake up at the same time and although I'll lie in bed for a bit longer I rarely fall back asleep and I'm usually out of bed by 7.15 at the latest. Not really that weird as it's just my sleeping habit but I genuinely can't remember the last time I was in bed after 8am.
HibbyAndy
12-05-2017, 03:40 PM
I can't lie in. I get up at 6.40 every day for work and don't set an alarm as I wake at 6.35 on the dot every morning. Weekends are the same, wake up at the same time and although I'll lie in bed for a bit longer I rarely fall back asleep and I'm usually out of bed by 7.15 at the latest. Not really that weird as it's just my sleeping habit but I genuinely can't remember the last time I was in bed after 8am.
To a tee the same as me
Craig_HFC
12-05-2017, 03:54 PM
I can't lie in. I get up at 6.40 every day for work and don't set an alarm as I wake at 6.35 on the dot every morning. Weekends are the same, wake up at the same time and although I'll lie in bed for a bit longer I rarely fall back asleep and I'm usually out of bed by 7.15 at the latest. Not really that weird as it's just my sleeping habit but I genuinely can't remember the last time I was in bed after 8am.
I'm exactly the same.
I am convinced that my wife could sleep for a week if she didn't have an alarm/me/the dog to wake her up, though.
Scouse Hibee
12-05-2017, 04:19 PM
I never lie in, I consider it to be a waste of valuable time especially at the weekend or a day off from work during the week. Pretty much midnight until 6.15am is my regular pattern during the week and until 7am at weekends.
Danderhall Hibs
12-05-2017, 06:10 PM
Back of 11 until 645 during the week.
Usually wake up at the back of 7 at the weekends cos I need a push. Sometimes go back to bed, sometimes get up.
I always wake up properly between 6 and 6:10 without fail every day, weekend or weekday.
l also wake up several times a night, have done since I was in my early teens. I can count on one hand the number of nights I've slept through fully.
Most days my Fitbit sleep pattern is up and down like a yoyo. For example, last night I woke up 5 times and was restless a further 21 times (that's not a mistype :greengrin).
hibs#1
12-05-2017, 10:00 PM
Does anybody for lack of a better word get restless legs in there bed?don't know if that's the proper wording but it drives me up the wall some nights the nights I don't get it is sleep like a log.
Edit: just googled it restless legs syndrome is actually a condition that gets worse with age 😑 several causes most common iron deficiency.might have to see a doctor if it gets worse.
overdrive
12-05-2017, 10:11 PM
I could sleep all day if I was left to it. If it wasn't for my wife forcing me to get up, I'd easily not wake up until 2pm on a weekend with going to bed at midnight.
Mr Grieves
12-05-2017, 10:42 PM
Does anybody for lack of a better word get restless legs in there bed?don't know if that's the proper wording but it drives me up the wall some nights the nights I don't get it is sleep like a log.
Edit: just googled it restless legs syndrome is actually a condition that gets worse with age 😑 several causes most common iron deficiency.might have to see a doctor if it gets worse.
I get that occasionally, it's hell. I've found myself sleeping on cool surfaces (the floor!) Which seems to help.
The_Exile
12-05-2017, 11:45 PM
I could sleep all day if I was left to it. If it wasn't for my wife forcing me to get up, I'd easily not wake up until 2pm on a weekend with going to bed at midnight.
I'm pretty much the same, whenever I'm off work (weekends or annual leave) I sleep 12-14 hours straight without waking, tend to turn in around 1am and get up at 2pm is the usual routine. Getting up in the morning for work at 7 after 8-9 hours sleep is a monumental effort and I don't really fully wake up until around 10-11am. I've been like this since I was very young, and don't really drink alcohol or much caffeine at all, don't have sleep apnoea or anything like that so can't really explain my weird sleeping habits.
cammy1969
13-05-2017, 12:26 AM
Find it unreal reading you guys, have never slept more 3 hours in one go for any one day in years But just been diegnosed diebetic type 2 can't Evan try to say how hard am finding it too adjust,
shattered every day can't remember sleeping more than 3 hours in one go
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EH6 Hibby
13-05-2017, 12:38 AM
Find it unreal reading you guys, have never slept more 3 hours in one go for any one day in years But just been diegnosed diebetic type 2 can't Evan try to say how hard am finding it too adjust,
shattered every day can't remember sleeping more than 3 hours in one go
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Did you watch the program on BBC one earlier this week called The Trouble with Sleep? They discuss a link between insomnia and type 2 diabetes. It also had a look at some ways to improve sleeping patterns. I thought it was really interesting.
Danderhall Hibs
13-05-2017, 09:00 AM
I'm pretty much the same, whenever I'm off work (weekends or annual leave) I sleep 12-14 hours straight without waking, tend to turn in around 1am and get up at 2pm is the usual routine. Getting up in the morning for work at 7 after 8-9 hours sleep is a monumental effort and I don't really fully wake up until around 10-11am. I've been like this since I was very young, and don't really drink alcohol or much caffeine at all, don't have sleep apnoea or anything like that so can't really explain my weird sleeping habits.
I can explain it mate. It's quite well known actually.
You're a lazy *******. :greengrin
Killiehibbie
13-05-2017, 11:20 AM
2 1/2 hours yesterday and 4 hours today, I hate nightshift.
patch1875
13-05-2017, 12:35 PM
Not sleeping well just now. Been struggling switching my brain off, go to bed with it wirring around wake up the same so don't think it stops in between. Seem to sleep through not to bad but it can't be a quality sleep as I wake up tired every morning.
Joys of running my own business I think.
Stranraer
13-05-2017, 07:05 PM
During the winter I was taking my medication at 3 in the afternoon and going to bed at 6. I would then wake up at 3 or 4 in the morning and be awake the rest of the day.
matty_f
13-05-2017, 07:22 PM
I get that occasionally, it's hell. I've found myself sleeping on cool surfaces (the floor!) Which seems to help.
I get that from time to time, it's brutal.
Generally sleep well though, anytime between 11 and 1 for falling asleep then up at 6:45. Like a lie in at the weekend though.
bingo70
13-05-2017, 07:54 PM
Sleeping isn't my problem, needing a piss is. Every night I'll be up at least once or twice and it does my head in. No idea last time I had a full nights uninterrupted sleep but we're certainly talking years.
Weird sleep thing for me though is if I'm hungover or just hit a wall through being knackered it amazes me how little I need to sleep to sort me out. Sometimes even a 5 minute snooze sorts me right out.
Hibrandenburg
13-05-2017, 08:02 PM
One of the best things I got from my time in the army was the ability to sleep anywhere at any time. That came in great use when I later worked for the emergency services on 24hr shifts, 25 minutes here and 15 there, being able to go from sleep to fully alert was something a lot of guys couldn't do and they paid the price with burnout. They only place I can't sleep is in a moving motor vehicle, but that's probably a good thing too. Funnily enough now I'm in a job with relatively normal hours in comparison to previous jobs, I have difficulty going to bed earlier than midnight.
speedy_gonzales
13-05-2017, 08:07 PM
Can't sleep if I go to bed too early, I like to retire after 0100hrs.
I don't use an alarm clock, I generally wake up when I'm due to get up, around 0700hrs.
BUT,,,I do have a projection clock that beams the time on the ceiling, I reckon I clock watch without actually realising it.
The_Exile
14-05-2017, 07:26 AM
I can explain it mate. It's quite well known actually.
You're a lazy *******. :greengrin
:greengrin That is a distinct possibility! !
overdrive
10-12-2018, 11:59 PM
I could sleep all day if I was left to it. If it wasn't for my wife forcing me to get up, I'd easily not wake up until 2pm on a weekend with going to bed at midnight.
Dragging this thread back up as my sleeping habits are very different now. I’ve been suffering from insomnia for almost 5 months since a breakup. I get max 1-2 hours sleep a night (maybe 3 on a weekend). I’ve cut out caffeine almost entirely, cut my alcohol consumption down to virtually nothing, I’ve tried the apps (eg headspace and one my GP recommended), tried the weird ASMR videos (which ironically I used to quite like before all this) and tried all the advice found online or suggested by my GP (avoiding electronics, etc.). Nothing really works although the apps did work to begin with in the sense I got to sleep quite quickly but would wake up very soon after back at square one. They don’t work at all now.
The one thing my GP was very keen on me doing was exercise. I told her I had already tried this but it actually had the opposite effect and on days I would exercise I would actually not be able to sleep at all. She suggested I was either exercising too late (I.e. at 5.30pm) or too vigorously, so she suggested I keep vigorous exercise to weekends before 5pm and to do yoga. I signed up to yoga classes (and actually did one at 12 yesterday and 5 today). Guess what, no sleep last night and I can tell I’m heading the same way tonight. I’ve done a bit of reading over the past few months and from what I can gather, there is no real evidence exercise outside of a very gentle walk has any positive impact on sleep but there is evidence strenuous exercise has a negative impact on sleep. So my question is, why do GPs, the NHS websites and other insomnia literature almost universally suggest this?
Before anyone says, yes I know I posted this on an electronic device but that didn’t seem to have any noticeable impact anyway.
patch1875
11-12-2018, 05:44 AM
All sounds sensible advice. I sometimes take magnesium an hour before bed seems to help me sleep better.
Since90+2
11-12-2018, 06:32 AM
For anyone interested in sleep and its impact on the body watch Joe Rogans Podcast with Matthew Walker who is a Professor at Harvard University specialising in Sleep. Absolutely fascinating.
One tip from the program is that generally your body temperature needs to cool down before sleep so it's better to try to fall asleep in a cold environment.
overdrive
11-12-2018, 08:21 AM
For anyone interested in sleep and its impact on the body watch Joe Rogans Podcast with Matthew Walker who is a Professor at Harvard University specialising in Sleep. Absolutely fascinating.
One tip from the program is that generally your body temperature needs to cool down before sleep so it's better to try to fall asleep in a cold environment.
Yep. This is another thing that a lot of the official advice seems to get wrong as well as it suggests you take a warm bath before bed. I suppose they are maybe coming at it from the relaxation angle, but for me the downside from the increase in body temperature outweighs the relaxing benefits of the bath. It always took me longer to get to sleep before my insomnia issues if I had a bath at bedtime. I usually sleep with the window open even at this time of year.
Since90+2
11-12-2018, 08:28 AM
Yep. This is another thing that a lot of the official advice seems to get wrong as well as it suggests you take a warm bath before bed. I suppose they are maybe coming at it from the relaxation angle, but for me the downside from the increase in body temperature outweighs the relaxing benefits of the bath. It always took me longer to get to sleep before my insomnia issues if I had a bath at bedtime. I usually sleep with the window open even at this time of year.
Matthew Walker covers the bath before bed tip in the podcast. Apparently it does help but not for the reasons people think, once you leave the bath your body reacts to being out the warm environment and into the cold air and it leads to a fairly rapid drop in body temperature which in turn should help sleep.
Its on YouTube and definitely worth a watch.
CropleyWasGod
11-12-2018, 08:53 AM
Hypnotherapy :agree:
hibs#1
11-12-2018, 05:15 PM
CBD oil of some description? I vape mine a couple of times a week can really help (I get restless legs 😠) I know you can get CBD drops and pills as well if vaping isn't for you.
HUTCHYHIBBY
11-12-2018, 05:40 PM
CBD oil of some description? I vape mine a couple of times a week can really help (I get restless legs 😠) I know you can get CBD drops and pills as well if vaping isn't for you.
Don't take this the wrong way but, get that checked out (restless legs), an ex-friend of mine had that and died in his early 40s. Nae point leaving it to chance, sorry, mean it in the nicest way. 👍
hibs#1
11-12-2018, 05:54 PM
Don't take this the wrong way but, get that checked out (restless legs), an ex-friend of mine had that and died in his early 40s. Nae point leaving it to chance, sorry, mean it in the nicest way. 👍
Definitely not taking it the wrong,much appreciated. It's not a constant thing I get just every now and again.i take a nasal spray during the summer for hayfever which more or less knocks my allergies away but gives me restless legs (it is a side affect of anti histamines)some times it's just to much caffeine etc.Thanks though 👍.
HUTCHYHIBBY
11-12-2018, 07:08 PM
Good mate! 👍
Just Jimmy
11-12-2018, 08:13 PM
i work nights 9pm - 7am, afternoons 1-11pm and earlies 7am-5pm. my shift pattern is a mix of the above generally grouped together for a few days then a few off. in May we move to 6 on 4 off. 2 day 2 noon 2 night 4 off which will be better but I generally find it hard to sleep early. i have no problem sleeping during the day off nights but I find it hard to sleep at 9pm to get up at 530am for earlies for example.
i duno how to fix that tbh.
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Sylar
11-12-2018, 08:49 PM
I'm pretty typical with my times. I go to bed around 10pm weeknights, get up at 6:30am every morning (unless my daughter suggests I get up earlier...).
My "quirk" is that I can't sleep in a quiet room and I can't sleep in a warm room. Window open and fan going year round, and a white noise (rain) app playing from my laptop or phone through the night.
CBD oil of some description? I vape mine a couple of times a week can really help (I get restless legs 😠) I know you can get CBD drops and pills as well if vaping isn't for you.I vape but havent tried the CBD version, is it the Loveburgh brand you use ?
Hibrandenburg
12-12-2018, 05:50 AM
One thing I learned in my previous line of employment was "if you have the chance to sleep, then sleep". If I'm not tired I'll start mentally shutting down areas of the body, starting with the extremities and working in and finally concentrating on just my breathing. Never fails.
beensaidbefore
12-12-2018, 01:01 PM
Not sleeping well just now. Been struggling switching my brain off, go to bed with it wirring around wake up the same so don't think it stops in between. Seem to sleep through not to bad but it can't be a quality sleep as I wake up tired every morning.
Joys of running my own business I think.
Try writing your thoughts down before going to bed. Get them out of your head, and allows you to relax that you are not going to forget anything. Better still do this earlier in the evening and it allows you to begin to shut off.
Another tip is think of 3 good thing from your day, you may have helped someone, achieved something unexpected, nice feedback from work etc etc. Helps you to be in a more positive mind-set before drifting off. Easier said than done sometimes mind you!
hibs#1
12-12-2018, 04:54 PM
I vape but havent tried the CBD version, is it the Loveburgh brand you use ?
Can't off the top of my head remember the brand (bottle is in the house) there will be a few different ones which will be much the same I'd imagine.
RyeSloan
12-12-2018, 04:56 PM
One thing I learned in my previous line of employment was "if you have the chance to sleep, then sleep". If I'm not tired I'll start mentally shutting down areas of the body, starting with the extremities and working in and finally concentrating on just my breathing. Never fails.
That’s the key for me...breathing exercises.
Learning to slow and control your breathing while ‘blanking’ your mind works a treat...you can literally feel your heart rate slowing and your body slows down.
There is a plenty tips on the web as to what to focus on when doing it if thinking nothing is too hard (as it’s much harder than it sounds!)
And being physically tired while it can help doesn’t really do much if your head is not in the right place so to me it’s more about mental control as you go through the slow down breathing that matters most.
HibbyDave
20-12-2018, 05:50 PM
Wear bed socks..... seriously worth a try.
Hope you get sorted.
overdrive
20-12-2018, 08:54 PM
I’ve started taking CBD oil and it’s helping a bit. Still not getting much sleep but finding it easier to doze for a wee bit with it. Hands down its one of the most vile tasting things I’ve ever consumed though. Up there with the duck foetus in Vietnam.
calumhibee1
20-12-2018, 10:51 PM
I’ve started taking CBD oil and it’s helping a bit. Still not getting much sleep but finding it easier to doze for a wee bit with it. Hands down its one of the most vile tasting things I’ve ever consumed though. Up there with the duck foetus in Vietnam.
What kind is it? I’ve tried Loveburgh and it tasted like earth. Not the nicest taste but it wasn’t that bad.
Hibernia&Alba
21-12-2018, 02:04 AM
I've always been an 'active' sleeper. Suffered from bouts of nightmares since childhood, still sometimes scream or shout in my sleep, along with lashing out. Have to wear a mouth-guard to prevent tooth grinding. Not pleasant for the wife when I have a bad night.
overdrive
21-12-2018, 06:04 AM
What kind is it? I’ve tried Loveburgh and it tasted like earth. Not the nicest taste but it wasn’t that bad.
Jacob Hooy CBD+ from Holland and Barrett. Extortionate too. No doubt can get something cheaper online.
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