James Keatings

[grievsie]

Sorry if this has already been posted but a source at Dundee Utd has stated that Keats is close to signing for them, along with Billy King apparently. Would like to keep him.

[1van Sprou7e]

I thought he wanted a crack at the premiership?

Surely he'd wait till after the playoffs before signing for them

[Tobias Funke]

Sorry if this has already been posted but a source at Dundee Utd has stated that Keats is close to signing for them, along with Billy King apparently. Would like to keep him.

Dundee United don't know what league they will be playing in next season. I find it highly unlikely Keatings would be trying to agree terms with a club who could be in the championship again. Sounds like p*sh to me.

[Jim44]

Dundee United don't know what league they will be playing in next season. I find it highly unlikely Keatings would be trying to agree terms with a club who could be in the championship again. Sounds like p*sh to me.

......... then again, we're all aware of Keating's predilection for the Championship. :wink:

[grievsie]

Dundee United don't know what league they will be playing in next season. I find it highly unlikely Keatings would be trying to agree terms with a club who could be in the championship again. Sounds like p*sh to me.

You know what rumours are like.

[Peevemor]

If he goes, he goes. I think he can do a job for us but probably not as a guaranteed starter which is what he wants.

[easty]

If he goes, he goes. I think he can do a job for us but probably not as a guaranteed starter which is what he wants.

Definitely not as a guaranteed starter.

[Dashing Bob S]

Would hope that he would stay with Hibs and try to improve as a player rather than set up as a striking John Rankin in the Championship.

[HibsNutter]

Would make sense tbh, if Lennon wants to keep Cummings, get Boyce, bring Shaw through and bring in a target man then his game time will be limited still. You would think he will want regular starts and he isn't going to get that with us.

[Centre Hawf]

Good move for him if so. Said it before that this is his level and hes probably going to be a main man for them.

[Sammy7nil]

Good move for him if so. Said it before that this is his level and hes probably going to be a main man for them.

Yip I would say thanks very much and good luck.

[danhibees1875]

I'd want to keep Keatings if possible, but I can't begrudge him the chance to make it 4 league winner medals out of 5 to join his Scottish Cup winning medal. That's quite the record!

[oneone73]

I'd want to keep Keatings if possible, but I can't begrudge him the chance to make it 4 league winner medals out of 5 to join his Scottish Cup winning medal. That's quite the record!

Fourth? Hamilton were runners-up. He has two medals

[portyhibernian]

Good move for him if so. Said it before that this is his level and hes probably going to be a main man for them.

I wouldn't mind him staying, but tend to agree with this.

[1van Sprou7e]

I'd want to keep Keatings if possible, but I can't begrudge him the chance to make it 4 league winner medals out of 5 to join his Scottish Cup winning medal. That's quite the record!

He didn't win the league with Hamilton

[MWHIBBIES]

He'll score 25 goals playing every week at Championship level, this isn't ''his level'', look at some of the players playing in the top flight. He'd walk into any bottom 6 side.

[danhibees1875]

Fourth? Hamilton were runners-up. He has two medals


He didn't win the league with Hamilton

Good point. :aok:

[allezsauzee]

He'll score 25 goals playing every week at Championship level, this isn't ''his level'', look at some of the players playing in the top flight. He'd walk into any bottom 6 side.

I'd agree that he could easily be playing the premier league but I'd imagine that Dundee United will pay better than most of the bottom 6 Premier League Clubs. Keats has to balance professional achievement with paying his mortgage. He should get a regular game and a decent salary at United

[ekhibee]

He's a good sub to bring on, but never a 90 minute player. DU will soon find that out if they sign him. Mind you, they should already know about players like that, Simon Murray is very similar in that respect IMO.

[supermcginn]

He'll score 25 goals playing every week at Championship level, this isn't ''his level'', look at some of the players playing in the top flight. He'd walk into any bottom 6 side.
He's only scored 40 league goals in over 150 games, we need better for the step up good luck to him at utd.

[snooky]

A lot of people say he's not good enough but I see players in all Scottish teams that could easily be classified as not good enough.
Plenty mercenaries but very few Messi-naries around these pairts.

[GreenCastle]

Another player I would keep if possible.

Good for team morale - scores goals and gives us something different.

He's a natural finisher and hopefully he stays.

[MWHIBBIES]

He's only scored 40 league goals in over 150 games, we need better for the step up good luck to him at utd.How many of those are starts?

[Ozyhibby]

Another player I would keep if possible.

Good for team morale - scores goals and gives us something different.

He's a natural finisher and hopefully he stays.

There is not a single player in the squad who does not have people on here saying we should keep. That's a good thing as it shows that we have been doing well.
There is no way it can happen though if we are going to progress the squad for the premier league. Some popular players will have to leave.


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[JDHibs]

Legend for his role in the cup win, and getting us promoted, but id happily let him leave.

Too inconsistent, doesnt get involved in games enough and as for a "natural finisher" he has 5 league goals this seasons in over 20 games, 1150 minutes and he will get even less time/chances in the top league.

No time for sentiment when it comes to our squad next season, need to be ruthless and aim as high as possible.

People are right, he probably would play every week for a bottom 6 side, but guess what? We arent aiming for bottom 6, we are aiming for top 4!!!

[scoopyboy]

He'll score 25 goals playing every week at Championship level, this isn't ''his level'', look at some of the players playing in the top flight. He'd walk into any bottom 6 side.

If that was the case then surely we should have played him every week, he would be the top scorer in the league by six clear goals.

Personally I think you're wrong.

[JDHibs]

He'll score 25 goals playing every week at Championship level, this isn't ''his level'', look at some of the players playing in the top flight. He'd walk into any bottom 6 side.

So you think he is better than Cummings? Off memory i dont think Cummings has hit 25 league goals in a single season?

19 this season and 18 the other 2 seasons in the league. Keatings is no where near as good as Jason, hence why hes played 2nd fiddle to Jason since he joined.

[Diclonius]

Keatings is making a wee career for himself getting teams out of the Championship.

[lucky]

Good move for him he's a great signing for them. I wish him all the best. I feel that the top end of the championship is his level. TBF he's failed to be a starter at Celtic, Hearts and Hibs but has done well at Hamilton, Hearts and Hibs in the championship so good luck to him

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Dundee Utd stated recently that if they don't go up then a further wave of cuts would have to be made. Surely they will wait until they find out what league they will be in.

[MWHIBBIES]

So you think he is better than Cummings? Off memory i dont think Cummings has hit 25 league goals in a single season?

19 this season and 18 the other 2 seasons in the league. Keatings is no where near as good as Jason, hence why hes played 2nd fiddle to Jason since he joined.

Jason should score more goals than he does as well.

I think if Keatings played 36 games up front for a decent side in this league he would score 20+ goals yes. Waghorn scored 20 in this league and he is ****ing pony. Rory Loy scored 20 as well a couple of years ago.

[SirDavidsNapper]

He's been offered a deal with us so up to him if he takes it or moves on. Personally I'd like him to stay. Assuming we flog Cummings and Holt leaves we're going to be short and I'd like to retain some continuity.

[Greenworld]

He's been offered a deal with us so up to him if he takes it or moves on. Personally I'd like him to stay. Assuming we flog Cummings and Holt leaves we're going to be short and I'd like to retain some continuity.
Forwards to me is one position you can chop and change ...if some leave some more will come not worried

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[calumhibee1]

Keatings for me is a bit like Dylan in that just when you feel ready to give up on him he reminds you of the quality that he has and you start to think we should maybe keep him. I personally don't think he'll be here next season and while I like him as a player I just don't think he's quite got the quality or consistency to be a lot of use to a team who are aiming for top four.

[blackpoolhibs]

Jason should score more goals than he does as well.

I think if Keatings played 36 games up front for a decent side in this league he would score 20+ goals yes. Waghorn scored 20 in this league and he is ****ing pony. Rory Loy scored 20 as well a couple of years ago.

He's not good enough to earn a move and a place in the 1st 11 of a decent side, that's why he's a sub at best for the last two teams he's played for.

He's another of those types of player we've had far too many off in the past, who are too inconsistent, and flatter to deceive every now and then.

Saying all that, i'd keep him as a decent sub, but would rather we got in someone better.

[MWHIBBIES]

He's not good enough to earn a move and a place in the 1st 11 of a decent side, that's why he's a sub at best for the last two teams he's played for.

He's another of those types of player we've had far too many off in the past, who are too inconsistent, and flatter to deceive every now and then.

Saying all that, i'd keep him as a decent sub, but would rather we got in someone better.He'd get more money at Hibs/Hearts/United than he would at Hamilton or Kilmarnock. He'd get into those sides but why go to smaller clubs? He will have done very well for himself over the last 5 years I'd imagine.

I don't think we've had too many players like that, we've had too many players who are utterly predictable and rubbish. He is neither

[corby hibee]

I don't think he will start many games again, maybe cash and swap for Boyce?

[blackpoolhibs]

He'd get more money at Hibs/Hearts/United than he would at Hamilton or Kilmarnock. He'd get into those sides but why go to smaller clubs? He will have done very well for himself over the last 5 years I'd imagine.

I don't think we've had too many players like that, we've had too many players who are utterly predictable and rubbish. He is neither


He'd never score 25 goals a season for any club, certainly not Hamilton or Kilmarnock and i'd even include celtic in that, who are a decent team.

We have had many players who have played the odd decent game then failed to deliver and disappear when given a start, he's just another in a long list.

[emerald green]

Dundee Utd stated recently that if they don't go up then a further wave of cuts would have to be made. Surely they will wait until they find out what league they will be in.

:agree: I can't see DU being good enough to successfully negotiate/win potentially six play-off matches to get out of the Championship.

[MWHIBBIES]

He'd never score 25 goals a season for any club, certainly not Hamilton or Kilmarnock and i'd even include celtic in that, who are a decent team.

We have had many players who have played the odd decent game then failed to deliver and disappear when given a start, he's just another in a long list.Brian Graham and Martin Boyle have scored 25 goals for clubs in the lower leagues, Keatings is a better goalscorer than both of them IMO.

Keatings will surprise a few people if he moves on, will do well for a club in the right system.

[blackpoolhibs]

Brian Graham and Martin Boyle have scored 25 goals for clubs in the lower leagues, Keatings is a better goalscorer than both of them IMO.

Keatings will surprise a few people if he moves on, will do well for a club in the right system.

In one season?

[MWHIBBIES]

In one season?Yes

[blackpoolhibs]

Yes

Well perhaps Keatings would do the same in the lower leagues, should he get a decent team down there.

[MWHIBBIES]

Well perhaps Keatings would do the same in the lower leagues, should he get a decent team down there.Graham done it in the Championship, playing every week with confidence can do amazing things.

[blackpoolhibs]

Graham done it in the Championship, playing every week with confidence can do amazing things.


£100 he does not score 20 league goals next season if he leaves?

Or even if he stays.

[ancient hibee]

I don't think he will start many games again, maybe cash and swap for Boyce?
Do you really think we can get a top goal scorer from the top league for a bit of cash and a guy who is at best third choice in the second tier?

[oneone73]

Do you really think we can get a top goal scorer from the top league for a bit of cash and a guy who is at best third choice in the second tier?

... a guy who's out of contract at that!

[MWHIBBIES]

£100 he does not score 20 league goals next season if he leaves?Eh no...I don't know who he is joining, who he is playing alongside, who the manager is, what role he will be playing etc

He could break his leg on his debut ffs...

It takes more than ability to score that many goals. I said I think he could in the right set-up at the right club, his problem is that he can't just fit in anywhere and consistently play to his best IMO.

[ancient hibee]

... a guy who's out of contract at that!
That as well:greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Eh no...I don't know who he is joining, who he is playing alongside, who the manager is, what role he will be playing etc

He could break his leg on his debut ffs...

It takes more than ability to score that many goals. I said I think he could in the right set-up at the right club, his problem is that he can't just fit in anywhere and consistently play to his best IMO.

He could do all of that, or none and sign for celtic and still wouldnt score 20 goals. He's just not that good, and way too inconsistent to get a good side where he'd play every week.

[heretoday]

He's been offered a deal with us so up to him if he takes it or moves on. Personally I'd like him to stay. Assuming we flog Cummings and Holt leaves we're going to be short and I'd like to retain some continuity.
I'd definitely like him to stay. He's stepped up with some important goals this season.

We're not exactly flush with strikers unless Lennon has someone in mind for next term.

[eastmainsmsh]

I'd definitely like him to stay. He's stepped up with some important goals this season.

We're not exactly flush with strikers unless Lennon has someone in mind for next term.

Tony watt maybe

[1van Sprou7e]

Tony watt maybe

must be taking the pi$$

[scoopyboy]

Brian Graham and Martin Boyle have scored 25 goals for clubs in the lower leagues, Keatings is a better goalscorer than both of them IMO.

Keatings will surprise a few people if he moves on, will do well for a club in the right system.

Brian Graham has never scored anywhere near 25 goals in a season.

[B.H.F.C]

Brian Graham has never scored anywhere near 25 goals in a season.

Think he did for Raith and that was what got him his move to Dundee Utd.

It was a one off right enough.

[MWHIBBIES]

Brian Graham has never scored anywhere near 25 goals in a season.Aye, except that season he scored 27 goals for Raith Rovers


http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=43743&season_id=142

[scoopyboy]

Aye, except that season he scored 27 goals for Raith Rovers


http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=43743&season_id=142

Aye, except you were talking League goals.

So take goals off for non Championship goals and see what you come back with.

[jgl07]

I don't think he will start many games again, maybe cash and swap for Boyce?
Keatings is out of contract, no?

[Sir David Gray]

He's a decent player but we need better than him if we're going to challenge for a top four place next season.

If he stays then of course I will continue to support him but I just doubt how much of an impact he will have in the Premiership.

[J-C]

Brian Graham and Martin Boyle have scored 25 goals for clubs in the lower leagues, Keatings is a better goalscorer than both of them IMO.

Keatings will surprise a few people if he moves on, will do well for a club in the right system.


Boyle has only scored 22 in a season 2011-12 for Montrose in the 3rd division.

[blackpoolhibs]

Aye, except you were talking League goals.

So take goals off for non Championship goals and see what you come back with.


Boyle has only scored 22 in a season 2011-12 for Montrose in the 3rd division.

Aye but apart from that, :wink: Keatings could score 25 goals a season if he found a decent team to play for, although i'd argue his last 2 teams are a decent as he will ever get in terms of quality.

[J-C]

Aye but apart from that, :wink: Keatings could score 25 goals a season if he found a decent team to play for, although i'd argue his last 2 teams are a decent as he will ever get in terms of quality.


SPL stats so far this year

Scott Sinclair 21
Boyce 20
Dembele 17
Doolan 13
Armstrong 13
Walker 12
Rooney 11
McGinn 10
Miller 10

All playing in good teams yet non have scored 25 league goals this season and of all the players last year in the SPL, only Griffiths scored more than 25, in fact he got 31.

So getting 25 league goals is actually not an easy thing to achieve.

[HibsNutter]

EEN reporting that Billy King is close to signing for them, at least that part it right:greengrin

[where'stheslope]

SPL stats so far this year

Scott Sinclair 21
Boyce 20
Dembele 17
Doolan 13
Armstrong 13
Walker 12
Rooney 11
McGinn 10
Miller 10

All playing in good teams yet non have scored 25 league goals this season and of all the players last year in the SPL, only Griffiths scored more than 25, in fact he got 31.

So getting 25 league goals is actually not an easy thing to achieve.

Good facts here!!!

Will be very interesting to see how Jase will compete in that list next season if he's still here?

Biggest fact on your list is Celtic have goals from every dept of their team not just a loan striker.

So what we need to get to top 6 or above is, 2 regular goal scorers up front with goals coming from defense and midfield as often as possible.

Its a big ask, but with the right players and system it could be achievable!!!!

[danhibees1875]

Do you really think we can get a top goal scorer from the top league for a bit of cash and a guy who is at best third choice in the second tier?

We'll give them Whittaker as well. :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

SPL stats so far this year

Scott Sinclair 21
Boyce 20
Dembele 17
Doolan 13
Armstrong 13
Walker 12
Rooney 11
McGinn 10
Miller 10

All playing in good teams yet non have scored 25 league goals this season and of all the players last year in the SPL, only Griffiths scored more than 25, in fact he got 31.

So getting 25 league goals is actually not an easy thing to achieve.

Exactly, :agree: its nonsense to say Keatings in a decent team would score so many goals, he might if he dropped down a few divisions and played for the best team in that league, but i the championship or the top league, he has no chance.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Exactly, :agree: its nonsense to say Keatings in a decent team would score so many goals, he might if he dropped down a few divisions and played for the best team in that league, but i the championship or the top league, he has no chance.

If he dropped down a few divisions he'd get 50 minimum. :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

If he dropped down a few divisions he'd get 50 minimum. :greengrin


:greengrin Aye perhaps even 60, then he'd get a move to either Hibs or hearts.

[Danderhall Hibs]

:greengrin Aye perhaps even 60, then he'd get a move to either Hibs or hearts.

He'd only get 60 if he played every week in a decent side.

[blackpoolhibs]

He'd only get 60 if he played every week in a decent side.

So its Hibs then. :wink: