Bigot derby, Sky Sports One, noon K.O.

[Hibernia&Alba]

No.

Garner cost £225,000.

The £1.8m figure was a combination of the actual fee sevco paid for Garner, the agents' fees, Garner's salary over the course of the deal signed at Greyskull, loyalty bonuses, anticipated win bonuses, and so on. Lots of clubs do this to make it look as if they are splashing the cash when they are not.

Newcastle have been doing this for years while Ashley has been in charge. For example, in 1996 (a decade before Ashley turned up), NUFC paid Blackburn £15m for Alan Shearer. £15m was the sum the selling club received. A couple of years back, NUFC supposedly paid Monaco £6m for Emmanuel Riviere - aye, right. The transfer Monaco received for the player was £1.8m, and the rest was rolled up as above.

It's also a good way for owners to trouser money that has supposedly been spent on transfer fees. Ashley is a known thief, and this is why HMRC are at St James' Park all the time.

He really does appear to be a horrible human being, as evidenced by the treatment of his employees.

May his involvement at Ibrox be very long indeed :greengrin

[HFCdeb]

No.

Garner cost £225,000.

The £1.8m figure was a combination of the actual fee sevco paid for Garner, the agents' fees, Garner's salary over the course of the deal signed at Greyskull, loyalty bonuses, anticipated win bonuses, and so on. Lots of clubs do this to make it look as if they are splashing the cash when they are not.

Newcastle have been doing this for years while Ashley has been in charge. For example, in 1996 (a decade before Ashley turned up), NUFC paid Blackburn £15m for Alan Shearer. £15m was the sum the selling club received. A couple of years back, NUFC supposedly paid Monaco £6m for Emmanuel Riviere - aye, right. The transfer Monaco received for the player was £1.8m, and the rest was rolled up as above.

It's also a good way for owners to trouser money that has supposedly been spent on transfer fees. Ashley is a known thief, and this is why HMRC are at St James' Park all the time.

Thanks for this. Is it "illegal" or one of those unstickable discrepancies that sees the likes of Harry Redknapp walk free? Surely there's tax implications, otherwise why would HMRC bother? I used to work for them and know how savage they can be when they have someone in their sights.

[HFCdeb]

He really does appear to be a horrible human being, as evidenced by the treatment of his employees.

May his involvement at Ibrox be very long indeed :greengrin

I'm torn between wanting him jailed for his treatment of his workforce and wanting him to really ram it up Sevco dry. It's a real inner turmoil 😉👌

[lord bunberry]

I've just been reading the thread on Rangers media about the guy that ran on the pitch. Apparently they need to "rise above it" because "we're better than that" and my personal favourite "we need to take the moral high ground " That one thread alone is full of hatred and bigotry and some other things that I honestly wish I hadn't read. What planet are these idiots on? They are disgusting cretins who have no place in a civilised country.

[magpie1892]

Thanks for this. Is it "illegal" or one of those unstickable discrepancies that sees the likes of Harry Redknapp walk free? Surely there's tax implications, otherwise why would HMRC bother? I used to work for them and know how savage they can be when they have someone in their sights.

I think HMRC have trouble with the burden of proof in football cases for a variety of reasons - chief among them that everyone in many cases are all happy to perjure themselves so that they all walk. This is how Redknapp got away with it - Boys' club.

[Is It On....]

No.

Garner cost £225,000.

The £1.8m figure was a combination of the actual fee sevco paid for Garner, the agents' fees, Garner's salary over the course of the deal signed at Greyskull, loyalty bonuses, anticipated win bonuses, and so on. Lots of clubs do this to make it look as if they are splashing the cash when they are not.

Newcastle have been doing this for years while Ashley has been in charge. For example, in 1996 (a decade before Ashley turned up), NUFC paid Blackburn £15m for Alan Shearer. £15m was the sum the selling club received. A couple of years back, NUFC supposedly paid Monaco £6m for Emmanuel Riviere - aye, right. The transfer Monaco received for the player was £1.8m, and the rest was rolled up as above.

It's also a good way for owners to trouser money that has supposedly been spent on transfer fees. Ashley is a known thief, and this is why HMRC are at St James' Park all the time.

"Preston manager Simon Grayson is resigned to losing Garner after the clubs agreed a fee of about £1.5million". I hope that this widely reported number correct (where did you get your info) but as the fee was not disclosed we are left in limbo. What I didn't know was that the season before Sevco swooped he only scored 6 goals so his exploits this season are pretty much in line with what should have been expected. Hopefully he is on as an attractive package that makes it difficult to move him on.

[Is It On....]

I think HMRC have trouble with the burden of proof in football cases for a variety of reasons - chief among them that everyone in many cases are all happy to perjure themselves so that they all walk. This is how Redknapp got away with it - Boys' club.

Seem to remember that it was Redknapps dog that had all the money. Maybe Dave King should approach the dog to invest in Sevco? 😂

[magpie1892]

"Preston manager Simon Grayson is resigned to losing Garner after the clubs agreed a fee of about £1.5million". I hope that this widely reported number correct (where did you get your info) but as the fee was not disclosed we are left in limbo. What I didn't know was that the season before Sevco swooped he only scored 6 goals so his exploits this season are pretty much in line with what should have been expected. Hopefully he is on as an attractive package that makes it difficult to move him on.

Sports journalist at the Lancashire Evening Post, former colleague of mine from the Middle East. He put the £225k figure to both PNE and sevco at the time but PNE denied it and sevco didn't bother to respond so it couldn't go in the paper.

Don't know what he's earning but I can probably find out. He's there until 2020 though, and you do wonder, if hun tried to flog him, how much they'd get for such a **** player. He's Dundee United/St Mirren class.

[Kato]

Derek Griffiths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Griffiths), perhaps.

Oh, aye.

[Kato]

Looking forward to reading Keith Jackson's take on Celtic players being attacked and how supporters of Rangers are the common denominator

The Sunday Mail bravely put nothing on their front page about the "bother", going against the grain as all the other organs did.

[cabbageandribs1875]

a ninth has been arrested, looks like it was the monkey boy, tw@t


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-39766739

It comes after officers said that were aware of a racially motivated incident.
It is understood someone allegedly made a monkey gesture at Celtic player Scott Sinclair.

[southsider]

Handed himself into cop-shop. May well get a lie in. Hope so. Vile people.

[BullsCloseHibs]

Neil Lennon is sure we'll be Celtics closest challenge next year. He is right.

[Cabbage East]

a ninth has been arrested, looks like it was the monkey boy, tw@t


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-39766739

It comes after officers said that were aware of a racially motivated incident.
It is understood someone allegedly made a monkey gesture at Celtic player Scott Sinclair.


Disgusting.

[ronaldo7]

I've just been reading the thread on Rangers media about the guy that ran on the pitch. Apparently they need to "rise above it" because "we're better than that" and my personal favourite "we need to take the moral high ground " That one thread alone is full of hatred and bigotry and some other things that I honestly wish I hadn't read. What planet are these idiots on? They are disgusting cretins who have no place in a civilised country.

Sex offender.

Flashed an 11 yr old girl, and was convicted in 2010. Disgusting man.

https://t.co/WHFS5cBpgH

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Sky sports news reporting 3 Rangers fans have been in court for offences from the old firm game on Saturday.

One for racist gestures, one for running on the pitch to assault a Celtic player and one for sectarian singing.

Sorry, was that ONE for sectarian singing!!!!????

He must have one heck of a loud voice

[lord bunberry]

Sex offender.

Flashed an 11 yr old girl, and was convicted in 2010. Disgusting man.

https://t.co/WHFS5cBpgH
I can't say I'm surprised tbh.

[GordonHFC]

Sky sports news reporting 3 Rangers fans have been in court for offences from the old firm game on Saturday.

One for racist gestures, one for running on the pitch to assault a Celtic player and one for sectarian singing.

Sorry, was that ONE for sectarian singing!!!!????

He must have one heck of a loud voice

Plus a megaphone and an echo machine !!!

[18Hibee75]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-fan-who-confronted-scott-10350980

What a Freak. Doesn't surprise me that he's a h*n as well. Flashing a wee girl when she was with her mum, and has two kids, wtf. Another thing I noticed is that the article says he is 23 years old?? He looks at least 35. What a horrible zombie club with horrible hypocritical fans.

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[Is It On....]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-fan-who-confronted-scott-10350980

What a Freak. Doesn't surprise me that he's a h*n as well. Flashing a wee girl when she was with her mum, and has two kids, wtf. Another thing I noticed is that the article says he is 23 years old?? He looks at least 35. What a horrible zombie club with horrible hypocritical fans.

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The pervert’s lawyer described McLellan as a “prolific offender” Source: Daily Ranger / Rebel 😂

[ehf]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-fan-who-confronted-scott-10350980

What a Freak. Doesn't surprise me that he's a h*n as well. Flashing a wee girl when she was with her mum, and has two kids, wtf. Another thing I noticed is that the article says he is 23 years old?? He looks at least 35. What a horrible zombie club with horrible hypocritical fans.

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He looks at least 60 in some of the photos! The government should use this to demonstrate the dangers of a life on the Buckfast.