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18Hibee75
26-04-2017, 09:32 PM
Just curious as to what the opinion is on Keatings, who would like to see him stay and have a crack at the premiership, and who thinks we should let him go?

IMO he is a good player who has got a good strike on him, he has even said himself that he would've scored a lot more goals this season if he had always played up front. On the other hand however, he is not consistent enough and can be quite hot and cold, I think we should see how he fairs in the premiership.

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SMAXXA
26-04-2017, 09:35 PM
Stay

ArmadaleHibs
26-04-2017, 09:35 PM
Stay 100%

Onion
26-04-2017, 09:36 PM
stay

Stevie Reid
26-04-2017, 09:36 PM
Stay. No question for me.

hibee_girl
26-04-2017, 09:36 PM
Stay

Sammy7nil
26-04-2017, 09:38 PM
Reluctancly he should go he will be no more than a super sub with very little prospect of challanging for a regular start.

makaveli1875
26-04-2017, 09:38 PM
he's won promotion 3 times , think he's earned a crack at the prem - with us

jacomo
26-04-2017, 09:39 PM
I like him. He does have a bit of quality.

If other strikers are leaving then I would definitely keep him. We need to keep most of this squad together - a couple of good signings and we are looking good, especially if a few of the kids can step up.

HibbyKeith
26-04-2017, 09:39 PM
He deserves to give it a go in the top league and I hope he stays. His dead ball delivery is probably the best we have at the club at the moment.

Diclonius
26-04-2017, 09:41 PM
He'll be offered a new contract, no question. Depends whether he wants to be 3rd choice striker or not. Turned down exactly the same situation at Hearts.

Ronniekirk
26-04-2017, 09:41 PM
Think he will stay as will Boyle unless they particularly want to be guaranteed first team football in which case they may have to move on
Hoping Boyle continues to Develop and Keating's seems to want chance to play at higher level


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iwasthere1972
26-04-2017, 09:44 PM
Please stay.

B.H.F.C
26-04-2017, 09:48 PM
Based on ability there is an argument to keep him. Based on what he's done over the whole season I'm not really sure he's done enough.

When he's good he's good but that hasn't been nearly often enough.

Baw187
26-04-2017, 09:49 PM
Stay.

Ilovehibs
26-04-2017, 09:49 PM
Stay. Keatings on 🔥.

Libby Hibby
26-04-2017, 09:50 PM
Stay

007
26-04-2017, 09:56 PM
Just curious as to what the opinion is on Keatings, who would like to see him stay and have a crack at the premiership, and who thinks we should let him go?

IMO he is a good player who has got a good strike on him, he has even said himself that he would've scored a lot more goals this season if he had always played up front. On the other hand however, he is not consistent enough and can be quite hot and cold, I think we should see how he fairs in the premiership.

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He's got a great delivery too. Stay 100%

CMurdoch
26-04-2017, 10:03 PM
1 year deal with a 1 year option for Hibs

hibby6270
26-04-2017, 10:08 PM
Cryin' Shames (for those old enough!!)

Centre Hawf
26-04-2017, 10:10 PM
1 year deal with a 1 year option for Hibs Go. I think he's half decent but this is his level sadly and sometimes he can look like he's struggling. No doubt the boy can strike a ball but I'm not sure hes consistent enough for me unfortunately.

MixuMac
26-04-2017, 10:11 PM
Stay

Hibs Class
26-04-2017, 10:15 PM
Stay

SMAXXA
26-04-2017, 10:15 PM
Go. I think he's half decent but this is his level sadly and sometimes he can look like he's struggling. No doubt the boy can strike a ball but I'm not sure hes consistent enough for me unfortunately.

Hard to say this is his level as he's not had a crack in the top league but he has earned the chance imo. Good squad player

Sammy7nil
26-04-2017, 10:16 PM
Cryin' Shames (for those old enough!!)

:greengrin if i got on my knees and i pleaded with you :greengrin

wookie70
26-04-2017, 10:17 PM
Jason's delivery is far better. 50/50 on Keats. Over the season he hasn't really produced consistently but there is some quality there.

yonder1875
26-04-2017, 10:18 PM
Stay, he deserves a shot in the prem.

GreenNWhiteArmy
26-04-2017, 10:23 PM
Absolutely good enough to remain as a squad player for next season. We need as much continuity as possible so retaining the bulk of this squad imo would be good and adding in 3 or 4 quality additions

Topographic Hibby
26-04-2017, 10:24 PM
Stay

Final minute victory over Falkirk was the catalyst for getting over the line and crushing Houstons cloggers. Same again tonight, but less significance. Earned a shot at big league with us. Oh, and for going radio rental in front of the North stand when Sir Davids winner went in.....!!

E10 Rifle
26-04-2017, 10:31 PM
We're the second best team in Scotland - why get rid of any of them? If any lesson can be learned from the Jambos it's not to disrupt things too much after promotion.

The Harp Awakes
26-04-2017, 10:34 PM
Stay. A class act who can score good goals. Needs to be more consistent but definitely keep.

Sir David Gray
26-04-2017, 10:35 PM
I think he's a decent player but if we're aiming for a top 3/4 finish next season, I don't feel Keatings is good enough.

I would be more than happy for him to prove me wrong.

GreenLake
26-04-2017, 10:38 PM
Stay.

Nobody knows how he will perform in the top division and he deserves a crack at it.

hibby6270
26-04-2017, 10:39 PM
:greengrin if i got on my knees and i pleaded with you :greengrin

:thumbsup::aok::top marks

SMAXXA
26-04-2017, 10:43 PM
Stay.

Nobody knows how he will perform in the top division and he deserves a crack at it.

Seems to be a general consensus that we will do better as a team in the premier so wouldn't it be logical that players like Keats will do better therefore shouldn't be written off

Fergus52
26-04-2017, 10:47 PM
Good option to have as back-up, absolute wand of a left foot.

However I don't think he's good enough or consistent enough to be starting that many games for us next year. He can score some beautiful goals but his all round play can be pretty bad when it's not going well for him. His first touch is really inconsistent which causes him to lose the ball way too often, not having any strength doesn't help that either when he's competing with centre backs for the ball.

ballengeich
26-04-2017, 10:53 PM
Stay. He'll only start when Cummings is unavailable (assuming he's still around), but he'll be a very good premier division sub.

Unseen work
26-04-2017, 10:58 PM
Hard to argue with 2 goals and an assist.

But for me he is very inconsistent and quite often the game can pass him bye.



Maybe playing as a striker would make a difference.

lord bunberry
26-04-2017, 11:00 PM
He's not good enough to start games so I can see him leaving. He would be falling further down the pecking order next season. If we're serious about challenging for second place it will mean signing another couple of strikers. I wouldn't mind him getting another year, but I can't see it.

Aubenas
26-04-2017, 11:06 PM
Cryin' Shames (for those old enough!!)

This time, be different.....

Squealing pig
26-04-2017, 11:10 PM
Stay

one day maybe...
26-04-2017, 11:10 PM
He's 25 playing in Scotland "Jesus we aren't Barcelona we are Hibs" this guys will score goals no matter where he plays football.

Stokesy's on fire
26-04-2017, 11:29 PM
Keatings deserves to stay and he's good enough to remain at the club.

J-C
26-04-2017, 11:48 PM
Strange one this, Keats deserves a go at the SPL but his inconsistency frustrates, he'll be offered a contract as a back up and it's up to him but he'll give you 10-12 goals a season which could come in handy.

anon1875
27-04-2017, 12:16 AM
Teams who try to get rid of the players who get them promoted and completely rebuild always get pumped the year after.

New deal for Keatings, Holt and Fyvie please.

SanFranHibs
27-04-2017, 12:18 AM
Reluctancly he should go he will be no more than a super sub with very little prospect of challanging for a regular start.

I am inclined towards stay and what is wrong with having 'super' subs. We do need subs every week.

givescotlandfreedom
27-04-2017, 12:37 AM
I'm not sure he'd do enough in the top league to merit a placing to be honest. A few flashed of brilliance but too often anonymous.

CathroMustStay
27-04-2017, 01:47 AM
Stay.

kltyhibby
27-04-2017, 01:54 AM
Stay.

Nameless
27-04-2017, 05:03 AM
Stay.

TRC
27-04-2017, 05:08 AM
He drives me nuts, sometimes looks like he could single handedly beat anyone, other weeks he looks like he'd struggle to get into a 5's team at the pitz. Just for his goal v Falkirk i'd keep him.

ALF TUPPER
27-04-2017, 05:40 AM
I like Keats. Keep him

Congruence
27-04-2017, 05:49 AM
yes, def stay, very good player...

BSEJVT
27-04-2017, 06:11 AM
If you give Keatings the ball and space to play in he can look very good from time to time but is very inconsistent.

In games where he needs to compete for and chase the ball he is hopeless, some of his attempts or non attempts to compete for the ball tonight were woeful.

We have offered him a deal which won't be bettered elsewhere so he will stay, how much he will play I don't know

lyonhibs
27-04-2017, 06:15 AM
Stay, if he wants to. We'll be looking to strengthen all areas for next season so he may well be a 3rd striker but all squads need depth and he's a very decent player.

Congruence
27-04-2017, 07:50 AM
If you give Keatings the ball and space to play in he can look very good from time to time but is very inconsistent.

In games where he needs to compete for and chase the ball he is hopeless, some of his attempts or non attempts to compete for the ball tonight were woeful.

We have offered him a deal which won't be bettered elsewhere so he will stay, how much he will play I don't know

:tsk tsk:

Speedy
27-04-2017, 07:54 AM
I'd keep him as an option off the bench but only at the right price.

He's not quite good enough as a regular starter.

JDHibs
27-04-2017, 07:56 AM
Been a back up/fringe player this season in the championship and barring a few occasions, such as last night, hasnt done enough to suggest he would be anything other than a fringe player next season.

Seems to have a good left foot, but isnt consistent enough.

Depends on what he wants for his career, he left Hearts as he didnt want to be a squad player, he joined us and all hes been is a squad player.

Ozyhibby
27-04-2017, 08:02 AM
Go. Can't force his way into the team in the championship, unlikely to make his mark in the prem.
If we are to improve then either Holt or Keating has to go as they are the only out of contract strikers. We need at least one new striker and we also need to make room for Oli Shaw to play a few games next season. Do we really want Keating blocking his way?


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One Day
27-04-2017, 09:26 AM
I think he is worth another year and see how he does. if he is an impact sub so be it, at least he will be making an impact

Peevemor
27-04-2017, 09:32 AM
I think we should definitely keep him. He's exactly the sort of guy who, if he was playing for someone like Dunfermline, there'd be plenty on here suggesting we should sign him.

stantonhibby
27-04-2017, 09:48 AM
Stay. Whilst unless he hits a real purple patch he won't play every week he is an excellent option for the odd game or from the bench. We need a strong squad, not just a strong team and obviously not everyone can be a first pick. He may be 4th choice striker but someone has to be.

Ozyhibby
27-04-2017, 09:50 AM
Stay. Whilst unless he hits a real purple patch he won't play every week he is an excellent option for the odd game or from the bench. We need a strong squad, not just a strong team and obviously not everyone can be a first pick. He may be 4th choice striker but someone has to be.

Oli Shaw could be 4th choice? If he is going to make it we need to start getting him into games soon.


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To deliver...
27-04-2017, 10:17 AM
Just read a tweet saying keatings has had 30 goals in 57 starts over the past 3 years. Not a bad ratio. Keep him.

scooby
27-04-2017, 10:20 AM
Stay, he needs to be more consistent but he's a natural goalscorer.

Kato
27-04-2017, 10:24 AM
He's another who looks stronger since being under Stubbs/Lennon's training. A bit more confidence and he'd be a regular.

stantonhibby
27-04-2017, 10:25 AM
Oli Shaw could be 4th choice? If he is going to make it we need to start getting him into games soon.


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He could be yes, but suppose we won't know that until he gets a game. I know he has been banging them in for the development team but don't think he done so well at Stenhousemuir? I just think Keatings is a good option to have around. I'd be delighted if Shaw becomes a regular first team player next season but there's no guarantee that'll happen.

SirDavidsNapper
27-04-2017, 10:32 AM
Keatings was first choice striker this season before his injury and was playing well. 100% want him kept for next season.

Brightside
27-04-2017, 10:32 AM
100% keep him. I fully expect someone will come in for Cummings.

Mick O'Rourke
27-04-2017, 10:36 AM
Should i stay or should i go now:music:

Keats has had a frustrating season i guess.
As have other players, of course .
That is squad football and the nature of the game these days.
I would be fine if James was still at The Holy Ground next season.
I was not at the game last night.
But by all accounts,he had a very good night.
Not likely done him any harm in getting a new contract.

It is going to be a very interesting summer.
We seem to have some funds to spend
Maybe not big transfer fees, but some cash, none the less.
Do we have a ceiling on players wages at ER?

Like others.i do not want to see JC and SJM leave just now.
Inevitable as that may be sometime in the future, if not this year.
But they will command big bucks.
Reminds me of the Scott Brown/Kevin Thomson scenario.

I read that Hendo the Delivery Man was in the stand last night ...again!



To quote an old Budgie phrase. John that is, not Ann.

"He'll do for me!"






Please Stay (The Crying Shames) brought back memories for this old codger.

Great song, mainly the last song played at "the dancing" back in the day
"The Nash" was my haunt.
The moon dance:hug:

New line up for The Crying Shames

Levien (fiddle) Cathro(trumpet) McPhee(didgeridoo)

Not one of them can sing a note.:singing:
Although two are more than adequate at passing notes.

Roll on the new season !

Since90+2
27-04-2017, 10:43 AM
I think it all depends on much money he wants and the length of contract he is after.

I would imagine most supporters would be happy to see him stay but its all relative to him much he is getting paid and whether or not someone better could be brought in for the same money, thats not something we are likely to know so I suppose we have to trust Lennon on this.

If he stays then great I think he is a decent option from the bench but if he does go I dont think he will be a massive loss.

B.H.F.C
27-04-2017, 10:53 AM
Keatings was first choice striker this season before his injury and was playing well. 100% want him kept for next season.

No he wasn't. He started the season in the team, but not as a striker.

HibsNutter
27-04-2017, 10:53 AM
Only if he is going to remain back up and we can still afford to get a better quality of striker in to partner JC. He has not been anywhere near consistent enough for us, and if we want to be serious about challenging for Europe we need better.

JohnM1875
27-04-2017, 11:08 AM
7 goals in 28 games this season. Probably only half of those in the starting line up? He's only 25 and I think he's earned a crack at the premiership and think he'll sign a contract knowing he won't necessarily be first choice. I do like him.

OsloHibs
27-04-2017, 11:29 AM
I'm the first to say go. 3 pages in too!

kaimendhibs
27-04-2017, 11:37 AM
Stay

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supermcginn
27-04-2017, 11:40 AM
Go, 5 league goals in the championship this season says it all!

stoneyburn hibs
27-04-2017, 11:40 AM
Stay, when he's on his game he's pretty good.

Speedy
27-04-2017, 11:43 AM
Just read a tweet saying keatings has had 30 goals in 57 starts over the past 3 years. Not a bad ratio. Keep him.

Does that include goals he scored off the bench?

HibsNutter
27-04-2017, 12:14 PM
Does that include goals he scored off the bench?

Yes, also goals scored for Hearts.

KeithTheHibby
27-04-2017, 12:35 PM
I like Keatings and think he is a great finisher however he can be a frustrating player. I am not sure if that is down to the position he is asked to play or not.

We will need a squad for next season no doubt and he is definitely worthy of a contract. Hopefully he will stay.

JDHibs
27-04-2017, 01:51 PM
12 starts, 9 sub appearance have gotten 4 goals...yet most want him to stay?? 3 have been in the past few weeks. Prolific....

Only thing going for him is he has 6 assists in the same time frame. which i imagine will mostly be from free kicks.

CMurdoch
27-04-2017, 02:06 PM
Keep as squad player. Won't be on big money. 1 year contract with one year option for Hibs. If he can't cut it in the SPL will move on at end of next season.

MWHIBBIES
27-04-2017, 02:16 PM
Go. Can't force his way into the team in the championship, unlikely to make his mark in the prem.
If we are to improve then either Holt or Keating has to go as they are the only out of contract strikers. We need at least one new striker and we also need to make room for Oli Shaw to play a few games next season. Do we really want Keating blocking his way?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf Oli Shaw is worth his place he'll force his way into the team. Right now he can't force his way into the Stenhousemuir team.

CMurdoch
27-04-2017, 02:20 PM
If Oli Shaw is worth his place he'll force his way into the team. Right now he can't force his way into the Stenhousemuir team.

A bottom of League 1 Stenhousemuir at that.
Another Division 1 loan next season me thinks. Maybe till the end of the year then reassess.

Eyrie
27-04-2017, 02:37 PM
On balance, I'd let Keatings leave because I want two new strikers in to join Cummings. I'd keep him however for the bench if we sell Cummings or if Graham moves on.

For all the raving about Shaw, he's not getting a lot of game time for Stenhousemuir so I wouldn't expect him to be more than our fifth choice next year. He could play well enough to be a regular off the bench but I'd prefer Shaw to be loaned to a club where he is likely to start most weeks. We can always recall him in January if he's doing well enough.

corby hibee
27-04-2017, 04:03 PM
I would keep him as back up but would he want to stay for that or will he move for first team football?

Albanian Hibs
27-04-2017, 04:10 PM
Stay

shetlandhibee
27-04-2017, 04:22 PM
stay

Mainstandman
27-04-2017, 09:23 PM
Stay, he strikes the ball well unlike some sclaffers we've had in the past.

weecounty hibby
27-04-2017, 10:45 PM
Keep for me. Chips in with goals and some of them crucial

CMurdoch
27-04-2017, 11:53 PM
Two goals and an assist on Wednesday.
Good effort.

blackpoolhibs
28-04-2017, 06:06 AM
Surely to god he'd not be our first pick next season, we need much better than him as a first choice forward especially if Cummings is sold.

He could stay as a back up player, but if he is in the team at the start of next season, he's either improved beyond recognition, or we've failed to get in the right type of players.

ian cruise
28-04-2017, 06:58 AM
Stay. I think he's a much underrated player, when Jace wasn't scoring he stepped up until his injury. He's been in and out the team and used in different positions since then but on the whole he's still performed and more importantly chipped in with some really important goals. Some players might have switched off the other night with the game almost over and the league won but he gets that all important goal to send us all home happy. We'll need good players in the top league and I'd rather not gamble on an unknown quantity when we have a great striker of the ball who is already familiar with the club and the squad.

makaveli1875
28-04-2017, 07:07 AM
if theres any chance of cummings going then it would be stupid to let keats go . he's the best finisher we have if you take cummings out the equation

Greenworld
28-04-2017, 07:07 AM
Stay great squad player

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Waxy
28-04-2017, 07:16 AM
Stay

pacoluna
28-04-2017, 07:33 AM
meh

Bishop Hibee
28-04-2017, 08:16 AM
I'd like him to stay but there's no way Hibs can guarantee him first team football every week especially if Cummings stays for another season.

J-C
28-04-2017, 09:26 AM
Two goals and an assist on Wednesday.
Good effort.


Unfortunately that was his 1 out of 6 good games and the reason he's never played at a higher level than the championship, back up/impact sub at best. He's 25 now, how much improvement is there?

eastmainsmsh
29-04-2017, 08:45 PM
I think if jc goes we have keatings to step up I think he is a cracking player keep

Golden Bear
29-04-2017, 09:30 PM
Good player but needs more self belief. Worth another contract without a doubt.

ancient hibee
29-04-2017, 11:01 PM
He's got an offer from Hibs.He'll now wait to see if he gets a better offer elsewhere.If he does he'll go and if he doesn't he'll stay.

Hibeewilly
29-04-2017, 11:10 PM
Definitely let go for me. Decent in the Championship but the SPL is a bit different

HoboHarry
29-04-2017, 11:12 PM
Three goals in his last two games, let's get rid of him. Seriously???

My_Wife_Camille
29-04-2017, 11:48 PM
5 league goals this season. Very poor return. Time to go

BarneyHibby
29-04-2017, 11:56 PM
Stay

My_Wife_Camille
30-04-2017, 12:08 AM
Stay. I think he's a much underrated player, when Jace wasn't scoring he stepped up until his injury.
Keatings only scored 1 goal all season until his injury.

If he stays then it has to be back up at most. The notion that he could actually replace Cummings (if he goes) is up there with Yogi believing he could replace Anthony Stokes with Darryl Duffy.

Captain Trips
30-04-2017, 12:13 AM
Three goals in his last two games, let's get rid of him. Seriously???

Its not the 3 goals in 2 games thats the problem its the 20 other games.

Keep him but I want us to sign somebody to go straight into team.

northstandhibby
30-04-2017, 12:17 AM
Good player but needs more self belief. Worth another contract without a doubt.

Agree with this.

James is one of the heroes who made a direct impact along with Hendo when coming on as a sub when winning the holy grail.

Stay for me please.

glory glory

Dashing Bob S
30-04-2017, 12:19 AM
Leave it to Lenny

CMurdoch
30-04-2017, 12:37 AM
He's got an offer from Hibs.He'll now wait to see if he gets a better offer elsewhere.If he does he'll go and if he doesn't he'll stay.

He should grab it quick before they change their mind

Ronniekirk
30-04-2017, 07:07 AM
He is now saying he wants more game time for first team so bit of gamesmanship going on right enough


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calumhibee1
30-04-2017, 08:17 AM
If he stays then fine, although I'd like to think we can get better.

Unseen work
30-04-2017, 09:07 AM
Is it just me that's kind of frustrated he has scored 3 in his last 2?


Dont get me wrong it's brilliant he has scored but i can't help but feel annoyed as he clearly has the ability so why has he just started showing it so late on and not do it consistently.

is it cause the pressure is off? Because he is playing as an actual striker?

I think thats the thing thay that frustrates me the most, you can tell he has ability, good left foot and good finishing but he doesn't show it enough.

you have to think of his time over 2 years here and not the past 2 games.

Billy Whizz
30-04-2017, 09:33 AM
He's got an offer from Hibs.He'll now wait to see if he gets a better offer elsewhere.If he does he'll go and if he doesn't he'll stay.

Yet 2 weeks ago he was telling his agent to get the deal done

ancient hibee
30-04-2017, 09:40 AM
Yet 2 weeks ago he was telling his agent to get the deal done

That was for the fans.Like all footballers he rightly wants the best deal he can get.

18Hibee75
30-04-2017, 09:45 AM
Is it just me that's kind of frustrated he has scored 3 in his last 2?


Dont get me wrong it's brilliant he has scored but i can't help but feel annoyed as he clearly has the ability so why has he just started showing it so late on and not do it consistently.

is it cause the pressure is off? Because he is playing as an actual striker?

I think thats the thing thay that frustrates me the most, you can tell he has ability, good left foot and good finishing but he doesn't show it enough.

you have to think of his time over 2 years here and not the past 2 games.
I think he looks like he's really trying to prove a point - to either the fans or Neil Lennon. He is much better as an out and out striker and I think he wants to try and prove that.

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500miles
30-04-2017, 09:53 AM
Is it just me that's kind of frustrated he has scored 3 in his last 2?


Dont get me wrong it's brilliant he has scored but i can't help but feel annoyed as he clearly has the ability so why has he just started showing it so late on and not do it consistently.

is it cause the pressure is off? Because he is playing as an actual striker?

I think thats the thing thay that frustrates me the most, you can tell he has ability, good left foot and good finishing but he doesn't show it enough.

you have to think of his time over 2 years here and not the past 2 games.

To be fair, his goals to minutes ratio last season wasn't far behind Jason.

This season, Lennon tried to mould him into a Commons type player, which he needs greater strength for.