General election 2017 voting intention

[SHODAN]

It's that time again folks (again).

[Betty Boop]

Labour all the way.

[Speedy]

Wont be voting this time round

[Sylar]

Paint me in the 'not sure' category.

I'd like to see The Conservatives get destroyed (but don't believe it will happen).

I don't want another Independence referendum (so won't be voting for the SNP).

I couldn't bring myself to vote for the worst opposition party in my lifetime, with one of the most laughable leaders they've had in years.

As a former student, I'll never vote Lib Dem again.

I'm not a bigot, so UKIP are out.

That leaves Green or Independent...

[Haymaker]

As my vote is in a supremely safe Conservative seat (22,000 majority) it's basically wasted. However I'll be putting my cross next to the green.

[G B Young]

Not 100% made up my mind yet. It will come down to which of the Labour or Conservative candidates looks most likely to keep out the SNP.

[Mr White]

Alliance party or sdlp probably, possibly green.

[lucky]

Labour

[Slavers]

I will be voting Conservative here in Upper Boghall.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Edinburgh south, so still very undecided.

[pacoluna]

Not 100% made up my mind yet. It will come down to which of the Labour or Conservative candidates looks most likely to keep out the SNP.

That's madness,but then again doesn't surprise me.this election has no bearing on a referendum. Scotgov already has mandate.

Im intrigued by your political train of thought..Are you socialist or a capitalist?

[cabbageandribs1875]

it really is quite simple, the party that can do the best for this country=SNP :aok: there is NO other

[cabbageandribs1875]

That's madness,but then again doesn't surprise me.this election has no bearing on a referendum. Scotgov already has mandate.

Im intrigued by your political train of thought..Are you socialist or a capitalist?


good luck trying to explain that fact to some on here :hilarious

[Colr]

Striaght fight between Labour and Libs where I am.

[Bristolhibby]

My constituency Chippenham (in Wiltshire) went Tory last election, but is on the Lib Dem hit list. The incumbent Tory has a 2,000 majority (roughly 10%). Pretty much most of this was swing from the Lib Dems.

So Liberal Democrat for me.

[Moulin Yarns]

My constituency Chippenham (in Wiltshire) went Tory last election, but is on the Lib Dem hit list. The incumbent Tory has a 2,000 majority (roughly 10%). Pretty much most of this was swing from the Lib Dems.

So Liberal Democrat for me.

Is there not a big green vote in Bristol or is that not your constituency.

[G B Young]

That's madness,but then again doesn't surprise me.this election has no bearing on a referendum. Scotgov already has mandate.

Im intrigued by your political train of thought..Are you socialist or a capitalist?

Neither, but least of all a nationalist.

Wherever I've lived I've tended to go with the constituency candidate who impresses me most and in recent years that's been Labour's 'last man standing' Ian Murray. He's been a good hard-working constituency MP despite being a yam. But like many voters I only started paying any real attention to politics due to my utter opposition to independence, so if it looks like tactical voting is a necessity this time round to deal the SNP a slap I'll be tempted to do so.

I don't see how the SNP can realistically lose many seats under the first past the post system with the 'yes' voters in their back pocket, but they've clearly got their 'already got a mandate' line well polished just in case they end up not doing so well. They can dress it up any way they want in that event, but the loss of a significant number of seats would most definitely be seen as having a bearing on a referendum.

[pacoluna]

good luck trying to explain that fact to some on here :hilarious

I would have thought it was obvious 😁

I honestly don't know how someone can dither between Tories and labour though, they are polar opposites.

[Just Jimmy]

Just moved to Manchester so i really don't know. I won't ever vote tory though.

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[pacoluna]

Neither, but least of all a nationalist.

Wherever I've lived I've tended to go with the constituency candidate who impresses me most and in recent years that's been Labour's 'last man standing' Ian Murray. He's been a good hard-working constituency MP despite being a yam. But like many voters I only started paying any real attention to politics due to my utter opposition to independence, so if it looks like tactical voting is a necessity this time round to deal the SNP a slap I'll be tempted to do so.

I don't see how the SNP can realistically lose many seats under the first past the post system with the 'yes' voters in their back pocket, but they've clearly got their 'already got a mandate' line well polished just in case they end up not doing so well. They can dress it up any way they want in that event, but the loss of a significant number of seats would most definitely be seen as having a bearing on a referendum.

They had 6 seats in WM when we had indyref1 😁😁

You can dress it up all you want but 56 seats was astronomical .

Tories have nothing to lose in Scotland and will claim change of political persuasion if they gain a few seats,when in reality they are only gaining votes through tactical voting. It's all part of the Tories exploiting political opportunism with regards to snap election

[heretoday]

I have been physically incapable of voting any way but Labour since Harold Wilson in 1974. The joiner's pencil goes unerringly towards the Labour X box. Only once has this pattern been broken - by Charlie Kennedy in 2001.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I would have thought it was obvious ��

I honestly don't know how someone can dither between Tories and labour though, they are polar opposites.


exactly, quite bizarre :agree:

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

exactly, quite bizarre :agree:

And yet both of those views exist within the SNP. So not reallu that bizarre then...

[Moulin Yarns]

I would vote Green, but I understand there won't be a candidate this time round, so a close second has to be SNP to keep the Tory out :wink: Pete Wishart for me

[The Harp Awakes]

It's a general election so it has no direct bearing on Scottish Independence. There's no one party that suits my political views in entirety - probably a mixture of Green, Labour and the SNP. However, the one party that will always stand up for Scotland at Westminster is the SNP, so that’s who will get my vote every time in a general election.

[Just Alf]

It's a general election so it has no direct bearing on Scottish Independence. There's no one party that suits my political views in entirety - probably a mixture of Green, Labour and the SNP. However, the one party that will always stand up for Scotland at Westminster is the SNP, so that’s who will get my vote every time in a general election.

Ditto.... As an aside I'm voting labour then green in the council elections.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

It's a general election so it has no direct bearing on Scottish Independence. There's no one party that suits my political views in entirety - probably a mixture of Green, Labour and the SNP. However, the one party that will always stand up for Scotland at Westminster is the SNP, so that’s who will get my vote every time in a general election.

Alex Salmond apparently disagrees
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/alex-salmond-says-general-election-is-a-vote-on-indyref2-1-4430556

[Pretty Boy]

Either won't vote or Green.

Labour are a joke, Conservatives are still the nasty party, SNP need challenged on their record and this is the best time to do it, Lib Dems are tempting if they run on a pro EU/soft brexit ticket as I don't blame the party as a whole for Cleggs folly and I also think what we have witnessed since suggest they actually did not a bad job of keeping a lid on the worst of the Tories. UKIP etc are of no interest to me whatsoever.

[JeMeSouviens]

Either won't vote or Green.

Labour are a joke, Conservatives are still the nasty party, SNP need challenged on their record and this is the best time to do it, Lib Dems are tempting if they run on a pro EU/soft brexit ticket as I don't blame the party as a whole for Cleggs folly and I also think what we have witnessed since suggest they actually did not a bad job of keeping a lid on the worst of the Tories. UKIP etc are of no interest to me whatsoever.

I don't get this argument - without the Libs there wouldn't have been a Tory government!

And isn't the best time to challenge the SNP's record (assuming you mean as the Scottish government) at a Holyrood election?

[JeMeSouviens]

A couple of interesting charts, which beg the question (at least for me anyway). WTF are Labour doing meekly trotting along behind hard Brexit*? :confused:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-Xsq94XUAAlACR.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-Z2PbXXYAA_Jy_.jpg



* answer I suspect - Corbyn's inner circle are Brexiteers. :rolleyes:

[Moulin Yarns]

I was chatting to an SNP activist at the bus stop this morning in Birnam, and the local branch are looking at both the following likely to happen

Council elections, Perth and Kinross to change from minority SNP to Conservative control

General Election, Conservatives to take Perth and North Perthshire from Pete Wishart

He reckons it is the 16-17 year olds that voted at the referendum, growing up and thinking they are OK with lower taxes, not really knowing what the alternatives are.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I was chatting to an SNP activist at the bus stop this morning in Birnam, and the local branch are looking at both the following likely to happen

Council elections, Perth and Kinross to change from minority SNP to Conservative control

General Election, Conservatives to take Perth and North Perthshire from Pete Wishart

He reckons it is the 16-17 year olds that voted at the referendum, growing up and thinking they are OK with lower taxes, not really knowing what the alternatives are.

Interesting.

The nats usually have really good internal polling.

Or maybe they do know the alternatives and just dont agree with them? Occam's razor and all that?

[Moulin Yarns]

Interesting.

The nats usually have really good internal polling.

Or maybe they do know the alternatives and just dont agree with them? Occam's razor and all that?

Indeed, that is why I was a bit surprised. the local (highland Perthshire) group are usually very active so it is surprising they are already seeing defeat a week and a month before the respective polls open. I would expect them to be more proactive.

So far, for the Council Elections I have received 2 leaflets, SNP introducing a new candidate and a generic Ruth Davidson anti referendum one.

[Moulin Yarns]

A couple of things to contemplate before putting an X in the box


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39730685

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39737981

[overdrive]

I'll probably spoil my ballot paper (I don't believe in not taking part in the democratic process), though I selected Labour in the poll.

Won't vote Conservative as I'm against a hard (or any type of) Brexit and that is the path the party nationally are taking.
Labour - New Labour is where I most closely align politically. I can't stand Corbyn though.
SNP - not a chance am I voting for them.
Green - as above.
Lib Dem - I would consider it but, again, I don't like the party leadership.
UKIP - nope.

As it is, Scotland is pretty much all SNP and I can't really see that changing much at this election. My constituency will be SNP so my vote would be wasted in any case.

[northstandhibby]

I'll probably spoil my ballot paper (I don't believe in not taking part in the democratic process), though I selected Labour in the poll.

Won't vote Conservative as I'm against a hard (or any type of) Brexit and that is the path the party nationally are taking.
Labour - New Labour is where I most closely align politically. I can't stand Corbyn though.
SNP - not a chance am I voting for them.
Green - as above.
Lib Dem - I would consider it but, again, I don't like the party leadership.
UKIP - nope.

As it is, Scotland is pretty much all SNP and I can't really see that changing much at this election. My constituency will be SNP so my vote would be wasted in any case.

I'm the other Labour voter on the poll. I'd encourage you to vote anyway bud. Don't let the nats wear you down and Corbyn won't be around after this election with a leader put in place more attuned to your way of thinking.

I'll definitely be voting Labour and hope the nats lose a lot of seats this time around.

glory glory

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm not able to vote but that's probably a good thing as I'd be damned to eternal hell if I voted SNP.

[northstandhibby]

I'm not able to vote but that's probably a good thing as I'd be damned to eternal hell if I voted SNP.

Bit churlish. Surely you can make a point without adding the irrelevant part?

glory glory

[Magnus]

Any inkling yet as to who will be the Labour candidate in North Edinburgh and Leith?

[allmodcons]

I'm the other Labour voter on the poll. I'd encourage you to vote anyway bud. Don't let the nats wear you down and Corbyn won't be around after this election with a leader put in place more attuned to your way of thinking.

I'll definitely be voting Labour and hope the nats lose a lot of seats this time around.

glory glory

Would you be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives?

Yes or No will suffice.

[northstandhibby]

Would you be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives?
Yes or No will suffice

My one and only answer to your question is -

I'd be ecstatic if Labour won every seat in Scotland and beyond. That would make me very happy indeed. The only other party I would look kindly to at taking seats is the Liberal Democrats, one of whom I had a nice chat with tonight when they were dropping off leaflets.

I guess my answer's not quite the one you're hoping for.

glory glory



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[allmodcons]

My one and only answer to your question is -

I'd be ecstatic if Labour won every seat in Scotland and beyond. That would make me very happy indeed. The only other party I would look kindly to at taking seats is the Liberal Democrats, one of whom I had a nice chat with tonight when they were dropping off leaflets.

I guess my answer's not quite the one you're hoping for.

glory glory





Embarrassing response. It was a very simple yes or no question.
I vote SNP but would put Labour ahead of the Conservatives every single time.

[northstandhibby]

Embarrassing response. It was a very simple yes or no question.
I vote SNP but would put Labour ahead of the Conservatives every single time.

I couldn't care less if you found my response embarrassing. Nice reply from you to what was a perfectly civil answer to you're obviously loaded question.

glory glory

[allmodcons]

I couldn't care less if you found my response embarrassing. Nice reply from you to what was a perfectly civil answer to you're obviously loaded question.

glory glory

Oh come on. Grow up and talk straight.

A loaded question!! Would you be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives?

[northstandhibby]

Oh come on. Grow up and talk straight.

A loaded question!! Would you be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives?

Already gave you a perfectly civil straightforward answer to your'e obviously loaded question.

glory glory

[allmodcons]

Already gave you a perfectly civil straightforward answer to your'e obviously loaded question.

glory glory

Your lack of straight talking tells me all I need to know.

[northstandhibby]

Your lack of straight talking tells me all I need to know.

Your response confirms to me all I needed to know, that I didn't give you the answer you were searching for and my honest straightforward answer was never going to be enough for you.

The correct question you should have asked was -

Which other party/s would you be happy with gaining seats from the SNP if not Labour?

Your specific reference to the tories told everyone you were hoping I'd state they were.

An obvious trap. Must do better.

glory glory

Edit - It also appears very clear if they're not an snp fanatic then smear them as a tory is a mantra by the snp.

[allmodcons]

Your response confirms to me all I needed to know, that I didn't give you the answer you were searching for and my honest straightforward answer was never going to be enough for you.

The correct question you should have asked was -

Which other party/s would you be happy with gaining seats from the SNP if not Labour?

Your specific reference to the tories told everyone you were hoping I'd state they were.

An obvious trap. Must do better.

glory glory

Edit - It also appears very clear if they're not an snp fanatic then smear them as a tory is a mantra by the snp.

So, you're now telling me what questions to ask you! Quality form of debate.

Not an SNP fanatic and not trying to smear you as a Tory.

It's Hibs.net ffs. Why can't you just answer a simple yes/no question.

[northstandhibby]

So, you're now telling me what questions to ask you! Quality form of debate.

Not an SNP fanatic and not trying to smear you as a Tory.

It's Hibs.net ffs. Why can't you just answer a simple yes/no question.

Why are you asking it then? You're baffling me now.

glory glory

[allmodcons]

Why are you asking it then? You're baffling me now.

glory glory

Just forget it. Based on your earlier comments I am genuinely interested to know the answer to the question I raised.

Given the make up of some of the Scottish Constituencies in the upcoming election it's a perfectly pertinent question to ask.

I'm at a complete loss as to why you think it's some kind of trap and can't believe you're refusing to answer with a straight yes or no.

[northstandhibby]

Just forget it. Based on your earlier comments I am genuinely interested to know the answer to the question I raised.

Given the make up of some of the Scottish Constituencies in the upcoming election it's a perfectly pertinent question to ask.

I'm at a complete loss as to why you think it's some kind of trap and can't believe you're refusing to answer with a straight yes or no.

Why on earth would I state I would want one nasty party (tories) to take seats from another similarly nasty party (snp)?

I gave you a perfectly civil honest straightforward answer that the only other party i'd like to win seats other than Labour was the Lib dems.

glory glory

[allmodcons]

Why on earth would I state I would want one nasty party (tories) to take seats from another similarly nasty party (snp)?

I gave you a perfectly civil honest straightforward answer that the only other party i'd like to win seats other than Labour was the Lib dems.

glory glory

Stop digging for the night, the hole you're in is huge.

If you're going to post comments on a forum at least have the courage of your convictions to answer a simple question when it's asked of you.

Your comment in bold above is nothing but kids stuff.

[Mr White]

Why on earth would I state I would want one nasty party (tories) to take seats from another similarly nasty party (snp)?

I gave you a perfectly civil honest straightforward answer that the only other party i'd like to win seats other than Labour was the Lib dems.

glory glory

Bit of a tangent here but they are standing in this election so it's not entirely irrelevant to ask your thoughts on the Sinn Fèin party northstandhibby? It's just that I notice you constantly criticise the SNP as a nasty party but IIRC I've read some sympathetic posts from yourself regarding Irish Nationalism.

While I accept it's entirely reasonable to support one without the other and I'm not necessarily accusing you of being a hypocrite, I am interested to hear why one part of the British Isles should remain tied to the union while another should be allowed to go free, if indeed that is your opinion?

[DaveF]

Bit of a tangent here but they are standing in this election so it's not entirely irrelevant to ask your thoughts on the Sinn Fèin party northstandhibby? It's just that I notice you constantly criticise the SNP as a nasty party but IIRC I've read some sympathetic posts from yourself regarding Irish Nationalism.

While I accept it's entirely reasonable to support one without the other and I'm not necessarily accusing you of being a hypocrite, I am interested to hear why one part of the British Isles should remain tied to the union while another should be allowed to go free, if indeed that is your opinion?

Loaded question :-D

[Mr White]

Loaded question :-D

It's ok it's worthy of a response :greengrin

[G B Young]

Would you be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives?

Yes or No will suffice.

It seems the Labour Party themselves would be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives (extract from The Guardian):

Labour’s sole surviving MP, Ian Murray, said he supported tactical voting to defeat the SNP and said that meant Tory and Lib Dem voters had to switch sides too if their primary objective was to block the SNP.
However, he said it would be ludicrous for Tory voters to think their party had any chance of winning his Edinburgh South seat, given that they were 12,000 votes behind Labour in 2015. “If people are saying we want to protect the union, the candidate in the best position is me,” he added.

[cabbageandribs1875]

lmfao@ SNP being a nasty party :hilarious

[allmodcons]

It seems the Labour Party themselves would be happy to see the SNP lose seats to the Conservatives (extract from The Guardian):

Labour’s sole surviving MP, Ian Murray, said he supported tactical voting to defeat the SNP and said that meant Tory and Lib Dem voters had to switch sides too if their primary objective was to block the SNP.
However, he said it would be ludicrous for Tory voters to think their party had any chance of winning his Edinburgh South seat, given that they were 12,000 votes behind Labour in 2015. “If people are saying we want to protect the union, the candidate in the best position is me,” he added.

He's talking about Edinburgh South and asking Tory and Lid Dem voters to help him defeat the SNP.

I asked NSH if he would be happy to see the Conservatives take seats from the SNP.

[Hibrandenburg]

Bit of a tangent here but they are standing in this election so it's not entirely irrelevant to ask your thoughts on the Sinn Fèin party northstandhibby? It's just that I notice you constantly criticise the SNP as a nasty party but IIRC I've read some sympathetic posts from yourself regarding Irish Nationalism.

While I accept it's entirely reasonable to support one without the other and I'm not necessarily accusing you of being a hypocrite, I am interested to hear why one part of the British Isles should remain tied to the union while another should be allowed to go free, if indeed that is your opinion?

We'll have to agree to disagree and that's the last I'm saying on this subject.

[northstandhibby]

Bit of a tangent here but they are standing in this election so it's not entirely irrelevant to ask your thoughts on the Sinn Fèin party northstandhibby? It's just that I notice you constantly criticise the SNP as anasty party but IIRC I've read some sympathetic posts from yourself regarding Irish Nationalism.

While I accept it's entirely reasonable to support one without the other and I'm not necessarily accusing you of being a hypocrite, I am interested to hear why one part of the British Isles should remain tied to the union while another should be allowed to go free, if indeed that is your opinion?

Had a bit time here and there to think it over at work today.

While I'm in favor of Irish unification of which will most probably come to bear sometime soon the situation vastly differs from the UK. While not going into the history of the 300 year union of which has been mainly a peaceful and prosperous one I find i was not being hypocritical and I can be both supportive of Irish unification and the union between Scotland England and Wales.

glory glory

[G B Young]

He's talking about Edinburgh South and asking Tory and Lid Dem voters to help him defeat the SNP.

The SNP seem keen to spin it as him endorsing Labour voters to back the Tories in certain seats:

http://www.thenational.scot/news/15236862.Ian_Murray_backs_tactical_voting_for_Tori es_to_keep_SNP_out/

[allmodcons]

The SNP seem keen to spin it as him endorsing Labour voters to back the Tories in certain seats:

http://www.thenational.scot/news/15236862.Ian_Murray_backs_tactical_voting_for_Tori es_to_keep_SNP_out/

I can't speak for Angus Robertson but IMO this is not what Ian Murray is proposing.

[OsloHibs]

Just wondering in Edinburgh how many areas does it get spilt into for voting?

[Colr]

Striaght fight between Labour and Libs where I am.

Our current Labour MP is OK, so do I vote to keep her in the PLP so there are decent representatives to manage what I hope will be the party's re-emergence or do I vote Liberal as they are anti-brexit and will provide a better opposition to the Tories than the current Labour party would?

That's my thinking at the moment.

I was a great admirer of the New Labour government (except the bollocks they made of Iraq, obviously).

[murray26]

Can't vote on my photo but will be SNP for me.

[JeMeSouviens]

Just wondering in Edinburgh how many areas does it get spilt into for voting?

5 I think. W, SW, S, E, N&Leith.

[Pete]

Labour, Labour and Labour again.

Ironically, I can't vote in this poll.

[Sir David Gray]

Whoever has the best chance of keeping out the SNP.

I'll have a look at who's standing in my constituency but it will most likely be Conservative or an Independent candidate if there's a possibility of that.

[lord bunberry]

Whoever has the best chance of keeping out the SNP.

I'll have a look at who's standing in my constituency but it will most likely be Conservative or an Independent candidate if there's a possibility of that.
Who would get your vote if it was a three or four way fight? If you don't mind me asking.

[Colr]

Who would get your vote if it was a three or four way fight? If you don't mind me asking.

I wonder how many are in that situation. It always seems a choice between the incumbent and the closest challenger.

[lord bunberry]

I wonder how many are in that situation. It always seems a choice between the incumbent and the closest challenger.
I agree, but I couldn't vote for the tories to get rid of the incumbent MP. There seems to be a lot of labour voters saying they're going to vote Tory to stop the snp. If that happens labour will be finished completely in Scotland. It's already going to be a long road back for labour and that has to start with them increasing their share of the vote and being the second party ahead of the tories.

[northstandhibby]

I agree, but I couldn't vote for the tories to get rid of the incumbent MP. There seems to be a lot of labour voters saying they're going to vote Tory to stop the snp. If that happens labour will be finished completely in Scotland. It's already going to be a long road back for labour and that has to start with them increasing their share of the vote and being the second party ahead of the tories.

My family are dyed in the wool Labour and I chat with quite a few Labour voters at my place of work and not one of them would dream of voting tory instead of.

Agree with your point however of a rocky road ahead and I'd urge Labour voters to keep the faith and vote Labour if they were indeed considering switching. Every vote counts.

glory glory

[Stranraer]

SNP. My local MP has been a great help to me so I hope he gets re-elected.

[Golden Bear]

Whoever has the best chance of keeping out the SNP.

I'll have a look at who's standing in my constituency but it will most likely be Conservative or an Independent candidate if there's a possibility of that.

And me. There's a strong possibility that I'll be voting Tory for the first time in my life.

[pacoluna]

And me. There's a strong possibility that I'll be voting Tory for the first time in my life.

So the importance of Britishness is more important to you than actual politics.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Im wrestling with the dilemma of voting for ian murray, wee fat jambo that he is.

Really don't want to vote for him, bit dont want to vote SNP at the moment amd tories and lib dems are miles back.

But still undecided.

[Colr]

I was quite impressed with Tim Fallon on andrew Marr this morning. I think the Libs might do well in London.

[ronaldo7]

I was quite impressed with Tim Fallon on andrew Marr this morning. I think the Libs might do well in London.

They'll get a Brexit bounce. :agree:

[offshorehibby]

SNP for me all day long.

I honestly can't believe that any sane person could contemplate voting for a Tory dictatorship (Cause that's what it'll be).

[makaveli1875]

SNP for me all day long.

I honestly can't believe that any sane person could contemplate voting for a Tory dictatorship (Cause that's what it'll be).

The SNP is also a dictatorship , probably even more so than the tories . The sane among us would avoid both of these nasty parties :aok:

[CropleyWasGod]

The SNP is also a dictatorship , probably even more so than the tories . The sane among us would avoid both of these nasty parties :aok:
People generally don't vote for dictatorships.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

People generally don't vote for dictatorships.

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except in turkey

[Colr]

except in turkey

And Zimbabwe

[weecounty hibby]

The SNP is also a dictatorship , probably even more so than the tories . The sane among us would avoid both of these nasty parties :aok:
Is this the latest Labour catchphrase? SNP are nasty. No wonder they are struggling. SNP every single time. The only party that puts Scotland first.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Is this the latest Labour catchphrase? SNP are nasty. No wonder they are struggling. SNP every single time. The only party that puts Scotland first.

Well, that is what nationalists tend to do!

[stoneyburn hibs]

Well, that is what nationalists tend to do!

Hence why they're so popular.

[Just Alf]

The SNP is also a dictatorship , probably even more so than the tories . The sane among us would avoid both of these nasty parties :aok:
I'm voting SNP this time (again), but many of my mates who've discussed this over a beer are in the exact same boat as me.... IF we were independent then the SNP wouldn't be at the races after the 1st term in government.

Actually we're NOT all the EXACT same, some would vote Labour some Green and some even Tory!

I think Politics would have a major "reset" to the benefit of everyone except the SNP if Scotland was ever to get independence.



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[steakbake]

And Zimbabwe

People in Zim don't vote for a dictatorship. MDC won in 2008. They just find that magically, their vote changes party once they put it in the ballot box.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm voting SNP this time (again), but many of my mates who've discussed this over a beer are in the exact same boat as me.... IF we were independent then the SNP wouldn't be at the races after the 1st term in government.

Actually we're NOT all the EXACT same, some would vote Labour some Green and some even Tory!

I think Politics would have a major "reset" to the benefit of everyone except the SNP if Scotland was ever to get independence.



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That's pretty much my sole reason for voting Yes last time out.

Politics in the UK is broken and it's terminally so imo. The whole narrative has shifted irreversibly to the right. An iScotland resets that and would hopefully restore a genuime choice between right, left and centre.

[cabbageandribs1875]

And Zimbabwe


And North Korea

[ronaldo7]

I'm voting SNP this time (again), but many of my mates who've discussed this over a beer are in the exact same boat as me.... IF we were independent then the SNP wouldn't be at the races after the 1st term in government.

Actually we're NOT all the EXACT same, some would vote Labour some Green and some even Tory!

I think Politics would have a major "reset" to the benefit of everyone except the SNP if Scotland was ever to get independence.



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This is exactly where my group is. Apart from the Tory:wink:

[Just Alf]

This is exactly where my group is. Apart from the Tory:wink:

Ha ha! I know some Yams to be fair :greengrin

[northstandhibby]

Is this the latest Labour catchphrase? SNP are nasty. No wonder they are struggling. SNP every single time. The only party that puts Scotland first.

The only party that puts independence/nationalism first.

Whether or not that's good for Scotland is a debatable point.

glory glory

[JeMeSouviens]

The only party that puts independence/nationalism first.

Whether or not that's good for Scotland is a debatable point.

glory glory

While that's true, it is also the case that in any conflict of interest between Scotland's interest and the wider UK's interest, the SNP would always take the Scottish position and Lib/Lab/Con in Scotland would all be told to take the UK one.

[northstandhibby]

While that's true, it is also the case that in any conflict of interest between Scotland's interest and the wider UK's interest, the SNP would always take the Scottish position and Lib/Lab/Con in Scotland would all be told to take the UK one.

That's what happens when you're in a coalition of nations in partnership. The EU's the same. Unless you think Scotland is able to survive in absence of entering into wider partnerships in the world because it may not suit Scotland's interests alone?

glory glory

[JeMeSouviens]

That's what happens when you're in a coalition of nations in partnership. The EU's the same. Unless you think Scotland is able to survive in absence of entering into wider partnerships in the world because it may not suit Scotland's interests alone?

glory glory

The EU would try to find a compromise. While Germany and France would have the loudest voices, everyone would be listened to and a group of smaller countries could work together to have influence.

In the UK, what central government says in London, goes, end of. And the same is true of the UK wide political parties.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Scotland would be a far better place if Scottish people ran the country just like any other normal part of the world.

I have yet to meet an Irish person who wants British people to run their country or a Danish person who wants Germans to run their country or a Norwegian who looks to Sweden.

The more you travel and the older you get the more downright weird Scotland's constitutional arrangement looks.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

It seems the election is firmly about independence now, according to sturgeon - and the polarisation of our country takes another step - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-scottish-independence-is-at-the-heart-of-election-1-4434160

Apparently they are thinking of adding a line to their manifesto that anything over half the seats in scotland will count as a further mandate for independence.

[ronaldo7]

It seems the election is firmly about independence now, according to sturgeon - and the polarisation of our country takes another step - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-scottish-independence-is-at-the-heart-of-election-1-4434160

Apparently they are thinking of adding a line to their manifesto that anything over half the seats in scotland will count as a further mandate for independence.

Why wouldn't it?

They already have that mandate tucked up since 2016, however some more Strong and Stable election results would bolster it.:aok:

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Why wouldn't it?

They already have that mandate tucked up since 2016, however some more Strong and Stable election results would bolster it.:aok:

If the mandate is already secure, why need another? And why set such a ridiculously low bar? I think the lady doth protest too much.

I do love the SNP strategy though - make the rules of the game up to suit yourself as you go. You cant lose!

I see what they afe doing and why, of course. But we all know it doesnt mean anything of the sort.

The holyrood route is much more legitimate in my view.

Also, habe you and other nats not argued that it is everyone else who keeps banging on about indy?

[lord bunberry]

It seems the election is firmly about independence now, according to sturgeon - and the polarisation of our country takes another step - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-scottish-independence-is-at-the-heart-of-election-1-4434160

Apparently they are thinking of adding a line to their manifesto that anything over half the seats in scotland will count as a further mandate for independence.
Did you see the Labour Party election broadcast for thursday's COUNCIL elections? All they talked about was independence. The minor parties in Scotland want to talk about independence even more than the SNP. They've got nothing positive to say, they've got nothing to offer the people of Scotland other than the fact they don't want independence. I keep hearing that the people don't want another referendum, they're wrong a huge percentage of us do.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Did you see the Labour Party election broadcast for thursday's COUNCIL elections? All they talked about was independence. The minor parties in Scotland want to talk about independence even more than the SNP. They've got nothing positive to say, they've got nothing to offer the people of Scotland other than the fact they don't want independence. I keep hearing that the people don't want another referendum, they're wrong a huge percentage of us do.

I did see it actually, no the best but ive seen worse.

Ok, so the first minister, who is actively requesting amd pursuing independence as we speak, and has just said this election is all about indy.

And yet you blame other parties for indy being on the agenda?

I find this line of argument from the nats a bit strange. Why are you ashamed to be campaigning for indy, when it is the party's entire reason for existing?

Also your last comment is a bit ironic given the SNP in government have failed to get a single piece of legislation through in over a year. If the opposition parties have no ideas, they arent the only ones!

[marinello59]

I did see it actually, no the best but ive seen worse.

Ok, so the first minister, who is actively requesting amd pursuing independence as we speak, and has just said this election is all about indy.

And yet you blame other parties for indy being on the agenda?

I find this line of argument from the nats a bit strange. Why are you ashamed to be campaigning for indy, when it is the party's entire reason for existing?

I thought Nicola Sturgeon had said this election was not about Independence.
I do agree that the SNP's insistence that they are not the ones talking about it pretty funny though.

Edit: Just read the Scotsman report. She has changed her tune if that is accurate then. I'm not so sure it is.

[ronaldo7]

If the mandate is already secure, why need another? And why set such a ridiculously low bar? I think the lady doth protest too much.

I do love the SNP strategy though - make the rules of the game up to suit yourself as you go. You cant lose!

I see what they afe doing and why, of course. But we all know it doesnt mean anything of the sort.

The holyrood route is much more legitimate in my view.

Also, habe you and other nats not argued that it is everyone else who keeps banging on about indy?

Who's this WE you speak of? Are you the voice of the people these days?

Rules is rules bud, when you get over 50% of the seats, you win. FPTP systems suck eh.:aok:

You've had the evidence on the local election literature. Can you show any local SNP stuff with Indy on it?

Your last sentence. You must have been on Rockall for the last couple of years, or you'd have heard nothing else from the opposition parties in Holyrood, or the Tories in WM.

[lord bunberry]

I did see it actually, no the best but ive seen worse.

Ok, so the first minister, who is actively requesting amd pursuing independence as we speak, and has just said this election is all about indy.

And yet you blame other parties for indy being on the agenda?

I find this line of argument from the nats a bit strange. Why are you ashamed to be campaigning for indy, when it is the party's entire reason for existing?
I'm certainly not ashamed about campaigning for independence. The SNP was formed to promote Scottish independence. There's no doubt in my mind now that the opposition parties have become even more obsessed with the issue than us. Just reading through this thread where we have labour voters contemplating voting Tory to keep the SNP out tells me all I need to know about politics in Scotland. We'll have Scottish labour and tories giving each other high fives in a few marginals as the Tory party sweeps back into power with a huge majority. That's not a country I want to be part off.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I thought Nicola Sturgeon had said this election was not about Independence.
I do agree that the SNP's insistence that they are not the ones talking about it pretty funny though.

I thought she had too, but both her and salmond have now said fifferently it seems.

[ronaldo7]

I'm certainly not ashamed about campaigning for independence. The SNP was formed to promote Scottish independence. There's no doubt in my mind now that the opposition parties have become even more obsessed with the issue than us. Just reading through this thread where we have labour voters contemplating voting Tory to keep the SNP out tells me all I need to know about politics in Scotland. We'll have Scottish labour and tories giving each other high fives in a few marginals as the Tory party sweeps back into power with a huge majority. That's not a country I want to be part off.

:agree: Let's get the local elections out of the way, and then get into the meat of getting the Tories out.

Independence is coming, it's just when.:aok:

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Who's this WE you speak of? Are you the voice of the people these days?

Rules is rules bud, when you get over 50% of the seats, you win. FPTP systems suck eh.:aok:

You've had the evidence on the local election literature. Can you show any local SNP stuff with Indy on it?

Rules is rules eh? So are the SNP going to win hundreds of seats and win power in the Commons are they? Because those are the rules of this game. Scotland is not a separate place in a UK election, amd so no, going strictly by the rules, winning more than half of scottish seats does not mean you win the election. Sorry.

No im not the voice of the people. So is there a mandate already, or do you need another one? Or is it all bollox because a mandate is subjective anyway!

So should national politics not come into local elections then? Is that what you are saying, that the two are distinct amd separate and should be kept that way?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I'm certainly not ashamed about campaigning for independence. The SNP was formed to promote Scottish independence. There's no doubt in my mind now that the opposition parties have become even more obsessed with the issue than us. Just reading through this thread where we have labour voters contemplating voting Tory to keep the SNP out tells me all I need to know about politics in Scotland. We'll have Scottish labour and tories giving each other high fives in a few marginals as the Tory party sweeps back into power with a huge majority. That's not a country I want to be part off.

So the SNP are allowed, quite literally, to be defined by the issue but the other parties aren't? Why is that, amd how is it fair?

Its a nation defining issue, it would be odd if they didnt care.

[Just Alf]

I'm a bit flummoxed re this independence thing

1) the council elections are about local council stuff NOT independence.

2) the General election is about national issues, and in Scotland that includes independence.

Is it deliberate that people keep mixing up the two?

Yes the SNP are going on about independence but it's always in the context of the general election never (to my knowledge) when discussing council elections... The same definitely can't be said for the other parties, and for me at least, it's making it difficult to chose another party over the SNP in the council elections. I'll just muddy that last bit slightly as I'm actually leaning towards Labour as the incumbent seems to have done fairly well!

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[lord bunberry]

:agree: Let's get the local elections out of the way, and then get into the meat of getting the Tories out.

Independence is coming, it's just when.:aok:
:agree: Independence is an absolute certainty. I was devastated when we lost the referendum, but looking back it was the beginning of the end for the union. Young people coming through don't have the reservations of the older generation and they will be the ones that make it happen.

[ronaldo7]

Rules is rules eh? So are the SNP going to win hundreds of seats and win power in the Commons are they? Because those are the rules of this game. Scotland is not a separate place in a UK election, amd so no, going strictly by the rules, winning more than half of scottish seats does not mean you win the election. Sorry.

No im not the voice of the people. So is there a mandate already, or do you need another one? Or is it all bollox because a mandate is subjective anyway!

So should national politics not come into local elections then? Is that what you are saying, that the two are distinct amd separate and should be kept that way?

We win the election in SCOTLAND. Simples.

On the Mandate, you've been around this board long enough to know that the mandate was secured in 2016. You've been told often enough. Don't play silly buggers.

I'd rather we just had the local elections to deal with on Thursday without the need to discuss a GE, however Theresa & co had the PCS breathing down their necks, so she decided to cut and run, after telling us for months, she wouldn't. Fixed term parliament act kicked into touch.

BRING IT ON.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

We win the election in SCOTLAND. Simples.

On the Mandate, you've been around this board long enough to know that the mandate was secured in 2016. You've been told often enough. Don't play silly buggers.

I'd rather we just had the local elections to deal with on Thursday without the need to discuss a GE, however Theresa & co had the PCS breathing down their necks, so she decided to cut and run, after telling us for months, she wouldn't. Fixed term parliament act kicked into touch.

BRING IT ON.

But this isnt a Scottish election. Simples. Rules are rules, as you said.

You think, you dont know. Its highly contestable, as you habe found out to your cost.

[ronaldo7]

But this isnt a Scottish election. Simples. Rules are rules, as you said.

You think, you dont know. Its highly contestable, as you habe found out to your cost.

You'll need to explain what this means please.:aok:

[lord bunberry]

So the SNP are allowed, quite literally, to be defined by the issue but the other parties aren't? Why is that, amd how is it fair?

Its a nation defining issue, it would be odd if they didnt care.
you are correct, but you can't have it both ways. You can't accuse the SNP of being a one policy party, when the opposition concentrate on the very same policy. I watch first ministers questions every week and the amount of time the opposition mention independence is laughable.

[northstandhibby]

you are correct, but you can't have it both ways. You can't accuse the SNP of being a one policy party, when the opposition concentrate on the very same policy. I watch first ministers questions every week and the amount of time the opposition mention independence is laughable.

I don't understand why its laughable for other parts of the UK or other parties to constantly refer to it and if they so wish to argue against it. They don't want Scotland to leave the UK so its entirely reasonable for them to make a case against at every opportunity just as it is for the snp who constantly argue for independence. Its logical.

glory glory

[lord bunberry]

I don't understand why its laughable for other parts of the UK or other parties to constantly refer to it and if they so wish to argue against it. They don't want Scotland to leave the UK so its entirely reasonable for them to make a case against at every opportunity just as it is for the snp who constantly argue for independence. Its logical.

glory glory
It's not logical when you are discussing day to day issues of the country. The opposition parties are more obsessed with independence than the SNP. Read this thread again and tell me I'm wrong. Labour voters contemplating voting Tory. Deary me.

[northstandhibby]

It's not logical when you are discussing day to day issues of the country. The opposition parties are more obsessed with independence than the SNP. Read this thread again and tell me I'm wrong. Labour voters contemplating voting Tory. Deary me.

Its irrelevant who's more obsessed than the other bud. The snp by seeking the UK government's permission to grant a second indy ref 2 have initiated the others to set out their opposing arguments for Scotland to remain within the UK at any and every opportunity if they so wish. It would be politically negligent of the other parties not to argue for Scotland to remain at every political opportunity. It appears perfectly reasonable to me. The snp can't have expected anything otherwise surely.

glory glory

[Just Alf]

Its irrelevant who's more obsessed than the other bud. The snp by seeking the UK government's permission to grant a second indy ref 2 have initiated the others to set out their opposing arguments for Scotland to remain within the UK at any and every opportunity if they so wish. It would be politically negligent of the other parties not to argue for Scotland to remain at every political opportunity. It appears perfectly reasonable to me. The snp can't have expected anything otherwise surely.

glory glory
What you've said makes so much sense... IF... looking back on these threads to a date prior to the GE announcement we didn't see folk against independence going on about it so much.



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[northstandhibby]

What you've said makes so much sense... IF... looking back on these threads to a date prior to the GE announcement we didn't see folk against independence going on about it so much.





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A lot more to come from both sides yet I'm afraid in what looks like a long winding road :greengrin

glory glory

[marinello59]

It's not logical when you are discussing day to day issues of the country. The opposition parties are more obsessed with independence than the SNP. Read this thread again and tell me I'm wrong. Labour voters contemplating voting Tory. Deary me.

To suggest that the opposition parties are more obsessed with the party of Independence is pushing it a wee bit. Isn't it? :greengrin
If the SNP lose votes in their rural heartlands in Moray and Perthshire it could just as easily be SNP voters returning to their former natural party of choice. The fishermen of Moray and Banffshire spring to mind. Every single party has floating voters. Pretending that your average Labour voter has any less antipathy towards the Tories than your average SNP voter is just plain wrong.

[ronaldo7]

I thought Nicola Sturgeon had said this election was not about Independence.
I do agree that the SNP's insistence that they are not the ones talking about it pretty funny though.

Edit: Just read the Scotsman report. She has changed her tune if that is accurate then. I'm not so sure it is.

This is what she said.

“The issue at the heart of this election is — whether you support independence or oppose independence — surely that decision should be taken by the Scottish people and the Scottish Parliament, and not by a Tory government at Westminster.”

She was campaigning for the GE, and for MP's in your locale.:wink:

[Just Alf]

A lot more to come from both sides yet I'm afraid in what looks like a long winding road :greengrin

glory glory
You ain't wrong on that score my friend!




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[marinello59]

To answer the OP I will be voting SNP. The sitting MP is doing a decent job of representing my constituency, she deserves longer in position.

[JeMeSouviens]

To suggest that the opposition parties are more obsessed with the party of Independence is pushing it a wee bit. Isn't it? :greengrin
If the SNP lose votes in their rural heartlands in Moray and Perthshire it could just as easily be SNP voters returning to their former natural party of choice. The fishermen of Moray and Banffshire spring to mind. Every single party has floating voters. Pretending that your average Labour voter has any less antipathy towards the Tories than your average SNP voter is just plain wrong.

See what you did there. :wink:

[JeMeSouviens]

I don't understand why its laughable for other parts of the UK or other parties to constantly refer to it and if they so wish to argue against it. They don't want Scotland to leave the UK so its entirely reasonable for them to make a case against at every opportunity just as it is for the snp who constantly argue for independence. Its logical.

glory glory

The point is that if you endlessly criticise a party for banging on about something and then bang on endlessly about the very same thing, that's hypocrisy. Plain and simple.

[lord bunberry]

To suggest that the opposition parties are more obsessed with the party of Independence is pushing it a wee bit. Isn't it? :greengrin
If the SNP lose votes in their rural heartlands in Moray and Perthshire it could just as easily be SNP voters returning to their former natural party of choice. The fishermen of Moray and Banffshire spring to mind. Every single party has floating voters. Pretending that your average Labour voter has any less antipathy towards the Tories than your average SNP voter is just plain wrong.
I don't think it's pushing it tbh. The SNP is by nature a party of independence. Rather than trying to make a positive case for Scotland we have the other parties continuing with the project fear type agenda that worked in the independence referendum.
I have no doubt that the SNP will lose votes in the areas you mention, but that will happen due to the reasons I set out earlier. We now have 2 camps, independence and the union. The Tories have the union vote tied up and obviously the SNP have the independence vote. Where does that leave labour? They've been forced into a position of their own making by concentrating on independence. I watched that party political broadcast from labour tonight and thought, what a shame.

[northstandhibby]

The point is that if you endlessly criticise a party for banging on about something and then bang on endlessly about the very same thing, that's hypocrisy. Plain and simple.

Both sides are equally guilty of stirring up the pot. Its a tom petty argument over who's more obsessed than the other of talking up or down independence . Petty point scoring but then that's a fairly ordinary type behavior in politics :greengrin

glory glory

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3457011/theresa-may-election-scotland-video-blanked-by-homeowner/


poor theresa didn't have much luck tapping folks doors on the campaign trail, still...at least she got two kisses from ruth to console her although i think ruth would have been a tad more excited than theresa

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Wow, diane abbot on LBC today is a total car crash. Cant believe they would let her be so unprepared.

Link here - http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/diane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost/

[CropleyWasGod]

Wow, diane abbot on LBC today is a total car crash. Cant believe they would let her be so unprepared.

Link here - http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/diane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost/

Nah, I like her thinking.

Privatise the polis, get the market to set the rate. £30 a skull sounds fine to me. :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Nah, I like her thinking.

Privatise the polis, get the market to set the rate. £30 a skull sounds fine to me. :greengrin

She's a powerful woman and shouldn't be mocked.

In that intervuew, she made an executive decision to increase the recruitment number from 10k to 250k a year.

She's very impressive.

[Sir David Gray]

Who would get your vote if it was a three or four way fight? If you don't mind me asking.

Sorry just read this message!

If I understand your question, between the main four parties (Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem and SNP) as things stand, I would vote Conservative.

[ronaldo7]

Come on then, which of you Labour chaps wants the Tories to win.:greengrin

https://t.co/rHUnamr5EQ

[lucky]

Come on then, which of you Labour chaps wants the Tories to win.:greengrin

https://t.co/rHUnamr5EQ

Serious question, are you actually a Hibs fan? You frequent this board but I can't remember you ever posting about Hibs. You have over 7000 posts but I had a quick look and after 6 pages of your posts I gave up as none were on football or Hibs.

[Hibrandenburg]

Serious question, are you actually a Hibs fan? You frequent this board but I can't remember you ever posting about Hibs. You have over 7000 posts but I had a quick look and after 6 pages of your posts I gave up as none were on football or Hibs.

That's pretty low, even for you.

[lucky]

That's pretty low, even for you.

Why is that? This is a Hibs forum and I'm asking a straight question. You post on Hibs I'm just asking if he's a Hibbie.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Green for me, though I was very encouraged by Labour's manifesto plans yesterday. It's good to see Labour stand for Labour values once again, after years of Tory-lite, and perhaps their heartlands (who knows, perhaps even Scotland) will start to listen to them again. We shall see.

[CropleyWasGod]

Green for me, though I was very encouraged by Labour's manifesto plans yesterday. It's good to see Labour stand for Labour values once again, after years of Tory-lite, and perhaps their heartlands (who knows, perhaps even Scotland) will start to listen to them again. We shall see.

Are you getting a Green candidate?

For me, parties like the Greens are disadvantaged by this election. They will have budgeted for a GE in 2020, as was initially agreed, and can't just field candidates at the drop of a hat. There's an unfairness in that which will disenfranchise many who would have voted for them.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why is that? This is a Hibs forum and I'm asking a straight question. You post on Hibs I'm just asking if he's a Hibbie.

He is.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Are you getting a Green candidate?

For me, parties like the Greens are disadvantaged by this election. They will have budgeted for a GE in 2020, as was initially agreed, and can't just field candidates at the drop of a hat. There's an unfairness in that which will disenfranchise many who would have voted for them.

I hope we have a candidate! You make a good point, though, and, if there isn't a Green, I will probably go Labour. I wouldn't have considered supporting them before Corbyn, which is perhaps emblematic of the tightrope Labour are walking: the balance between satisfying their traditional left wing base, on the one hand, and winning over moderate Tories and Lib Dems. A move either way risks alienating the other block.

[CropleyWasGod]

I hope we have a candidate! You make a good point, though, and, if there isn't a Green, I will probably go Labour. I wouldn't have considered supporting them before Corbyn, which is perhaps emblematic of the tightrope Labour are walking: the balance between satisfying their traditional left wing base, on the one hand, and winning over moderate Tories and Lib Dems. A move either way risks alienating the other block.

There are only 3 in Scotland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39873325

[Hibernia&Alba]

There are only 3 in Scotland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39873325

Edinburgh North and Leith. I got lucky :thumbsup:

Shame they can only stand in three seats, though. I wonder why they chose those three.

[pacoluna]

Serious question, are you actually a Hibs fan? You frequent this board but I can't remember you ever posting about Hibs. You have over 7000 posts but I had a quick look and after 6 pages of your posts I gave up as none were on football or Hibs.

I prefer the holy ground myself, the main forum half the time is full of absolute drivel, specially at this time of the season.

[ronaldo7]

Serious question, are you actually a Hibs fan? You frequent this board but I can't remember you ever posting about Hibs. You have over 7000 posts but I had a quick look and after 6 pages of your posts I gave up as none were on football or Hibs.

This has to be the most disgusting comment I've had to respond to on this board for many a year. I'll put it down to you being in the pub again last night.

Many people, and I mean Many people on here know my credentials as a Hibs fan/Sponsor/Friend.

I'll leave it at that, I'll be off the board for a few days as I'm off to my son's stag do, I'll try and not let your comment bother me, however it does leave a putrid smell lingering.

[ronaldo7]

Are you getting a Green candidate?

For me, parties like the Greens are disadvantaged by this election. They will have budgeted for a GE in 2020, as was initially agreed, and can't just field candidates at the drop of a hat. There's an unfairness in that which will disenfranchise many who would have voted for them.

Patrick Harvie said as much in an interview recently. The branches were saying they'd no funds left after the local elections.

[Moulin Yarns]

Patrick Harvie said as much in an interview recently. The branches were saying they'd no funds left after the local elections.

My local branch has 2 westminster constituences to consider, and while a candidate came forward and offered to put up their own election fee to stand in Perth and North Perthshire the branch were of the opinion that there were insufficient funds to support a campaign at such short notice.

The Scottish Greens don't have huge donors coming forward like the more established parties

[danhibees1875]

Edinburgh North and Leith. I got lucky :thumbsup:

Shame they can only stand in three seats, though. I wonder why they chose those three.

Me too.

I would assume they've looked at where they are most likely to pick up seats and there must be a relatively strong Green presence in EN&L - the Green candidate did come first in the local elections in my ward by a decent margin but then she was quite active locally, so not sure how much of that would translate into GE voting for the wider constituency.

I'm relatively torn for this one:

Green - probably the party whose policies I feel I'm most in line with
Labour - I like their new manifesto enough that I can let go of the odd thing I disagree with in order to give my vote to a more influential/large party with a "chance" of winning
SNP - Enough of their policies are in line with my beliefs that I'd happily see them win at the expense of the Tories who could mount more of a challenge around Scotland/Edinburgh than in the past.

[xyz23jc]

This has to be the most disgusting comment I've had to respond to on this board for many a year. I'll put it down to you being in the pub again last night.

Many people, and I mean Many people on here know my credentials as a Hibs fan/Sponsor/Friend.

I'll leave it at that, I'll be off the board for a few days as I'm off to my son's stag do, I'll try and not let your comment bother me, however it does leave a putrid smell lingering.

Keep the faith amigo, keep the faith! :thumbsup:

[Hfcwilson3192]

Hibs fans voting tory what an actual embarrassment. Is this the same guys who take green union jacks to the games and denounce our irish heritage by any chance?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Hibs fans voting tory what an actual embarrassment. Is this the same guys who take green union jacks to the games and denounce our irish heritage by any chance?

Your ignorance is more of an embarrassment.

[CropleyWasGod]

Hibs fans voting tory what an actual embarrassment. Is this the same guys who take green union jacks to the games and denounce our irish heritage by any chance?
Hibs fans are a broad church. The only thing that binds us all is the team we support. In that light, we can have whatever political views we want.

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[marinello59]

Hibs fans are a broad church. The only thing that binds us all is the team we support. In that light, we can have whatever political views we want.

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Well said.

[Mr White]

Guys can we try and leave out the petty personal gripes and snipes please. It makes pretty grim reading for everyone else :aok:

[ronaldo7]

Come on then, which of you Labour chaps wants the Tories to win.:greengrin

https://t.co/rHUnamr5EQ

Any Labour guys swithering, and ready to vote Tory?

According to the link 1 in 4 actually want the Tories to win.

[Pretty Boy]

Guys can we try and leave out the petty personal gripes and snipes please. It makes pretty grim reading for everyone else :aok:

Can I just follow this up by saying no one has the right to post 'what they like, when they like, where they like'. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on here but we have rules and personal slurs, whoever they are directed at, aren't acceptable. I hate closing threads but when they become dominated by disrespect and pettiness then there is often little choice. I'd rather this one didn't go down that route.

Please show other posters a bit more respect, if you wouldn't say something to their face maybe that's a sign it's a bit below the belt and shouldn't be said via keyboard either. We're all growns ups so let's try and act like it. That goes for everyone.

Thanks.

[ronaldo7]

Can I just follow this up by saying no one has the right to post 'what they like, when they like, where they like'. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on here but we have rules and personal slurs, whoever they are directed at, aren't acceptable. I hate closing threads but when they become dominated by disrespect and pettiness then there is often little choice. I'd rather this one didn't go down that route.

Please show other posters a bit more respect, if you wouldn't say something to their face maybe that's a sign it's a bit below the belt and shouldn't be said via keyboard either. We're all growns ups so let's try and act like it. That goes for everyone.

Thanks.

Are you going to remove post 135 of this thread, as it calls into question my Hibbieness. Their are also posts on here claiming that I might be in the employment of the SNP or some kind of Political officer, both of which are untrue.

Can we have some balance please.