Fears for dylan

[humptiedumptie]

Immediately on scoring his goal in the semi, Dylan places his hand to his tummy as if he has strained something again then shortly after, he is taken off. Such a simple thing as taking a shot appears to have aggravated his condition. It would be heartbreaking if he has to retire from football due to his ongoing injury problems. Also, Grant Holt, with no new contract offered, leaves the possibility of our two goalscorers being no longer with us next season.

[woodythehibee]

Immediately on scoring his goal in the semi, Dylan places his hand to his tummy as if he has strained something again then shortly after, he is taken off. Such a simple thing as taking a shot appears to have aggravated his condition. It would be heartbreaking if he has to retire from football due to his ongoing injury problems. Also, Grant Holt, with no new contract offered, leaves the possibility of our two goalscorers being no longer with us next season.

He said he felt his groin as soon as he shot. I'm sure the majority of his injuries have been in relation to the groin and it appears that they cannot find a cure if he is still having bother. Real shame as I really enjoy watching Dylan, but his injury record is likely to end his time with the Hibees as he will be on a decent wage and we can't afford to have him sidelined so often.

[Hibeewilly]

I really hope that during the close season they find a cure. He is the best midfielder we've got

[J-C]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.

[calumhibee1]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.

If that's what's wrong with him then he should be left out for 6 months starting now. He'd be available again by November, before the Scottish cup starts and with about 25 league games remaining.

[jacomo]

Dylan is still young. Other players have repeated groin / muscle injuries as their body adapts to the demands of professional football.

I really want us to keep faith with him. Exactly the type of midfielder we need and not easy to find at our level.

[Golden Bear]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.

No. He's a luxury we can't afford.

Harsh but true.

[Jones28]

If that's what's wrong with him then he should be left out for 6 months starting now. He'd be available again by November, before the Scottish cup starts and with about 25 league games remaining.

This, he'd be like a new signing coming back at that point.

[J-C]

No. He's a luxury we can't afford.

Harsh but true.


It should have been done last season but we were fighting on 3 different fronts game wise, so he never got a chance to really recuperate at anytime.

[Juice-Terry]

DEFINITELY worth taking (another) gamble on. He's a superb footballer and we should go all out to get him healthy - even if, as some have suggested - that would take six months. To replace him with similar quality without the injuries would cost millions.

[Andy74]

No. He's a luxury we can't afford.

Harsh but true.
No it's not true.

[neil7908]

He has a year left on his contract I believe so we need to do all we can to get him fully fit, even if that does mean that him sitting out for say 6 months.

Then in around a year's time the club will have to make a decision on his condition.

It may be he is completely cured at that point and we can offer a him a new deal. If however he's still only able to play only a small percentage of games a year I think we'd be hard pressed to keep him on a big wage.

Possibly a smaller basic wage with big appearance bonus or a play as you play type deal could work?

[Elephant Stone]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.

100% yes. Really hope we stick by him, and if it's as simple as waiting 6 months for it to be properly solved then it's even more of a no-brainer.

[MyJo]

At the rate he is going he's probably going to be out injured for 6 months of the year anyway. If we can get him back to full and ongoing fitness by allowing the 6 months to happen in one go while he gets treatment then go for it. Get it started immediately while there is nothing left to play for and he is only going to miss the first few months of next season

[lord bunberry]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.
I think he's worth the wait. If he started the treatment now it would mean him only missing a few months at the start of the season.

[jacomo]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.


Is this really the case or speculation? I think you mean chronic rather than acute no?

Get him signed up for Ryan Giggs yoga regime and all will be well. First name on the team sheet for me if fit.

[Stevie Reid]

Would be worth a try if the six month thing will definitely work, but I would always fear for any player who misses pre-season training, especially someone as injury prone as Dylan.

If it is successful, we'd also risk losing him at the end of his contract.

It's a conundrum, for sure.

[J-C]

Is this really the case or speculation? I think you mean chronic rather than acute no?

Get him signed up for Ryan Giggs yoga regime and all will be well. First name on the team sheet for me if fit.


Yes I mean chronic.

Yoga or Palates would be perfect for Dylan.

[Fergus52]

The 6 month recuperation period would definitely be worth it if we started now.

McGeouch is easily one of our best players when fit, if he returned and was fully fit for the second half of next season it would provide a great boost and be like a new signing. Well worth paying his wages for during the time he'd be out.

[18Hibee75]

So is that grant Holt leaving then?

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[brog]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.

Your info/thoughts are spot on but there's really no set time frame for correction of this problem. For some people, physio can correct it almost immediately. For others it gets corrected really quickly but recurs almost as quickly. ( Dylan seems closest to this category ). For others, it takes, as you say, months of rest & treatment. The problem with the final category is there's still no guarantee of lasting success. There's therefore a school of thought that you may as well live with it & address as it happens rather than take a lengthy period out without any guarantees. I think this is what we've been doing with Dylan. If that's the case then I think we'll see him available to play at the start of next season. Like every other treatment for this problem though it's a gamble. I really hope a 3 month break now will see him fit & raring to go though I suspect our signing of Danny Swanson means we're not over confident of Dylan's long term future.

[superfurryhibby]

If the speculation about the time of rest and rehabilitation needed is accurate, I would be inclined to support that option. As an incentive, perhaps we could have a gentlemans agreement about contract extension etc. Potential tricky, but if Dylan's condition is as dire as some have intimated, this response might help save his career.

[wookie70]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long. If that is true I hope he is on the physios table as we speak and we make an investment to get a reward.

[NAE NOOKIE]

If 6 months out will sort Dylan then it will be well worth it to give him that time, I can only imagine what an impact a fully fit Dylan would be able to make, he must be hampered just now fearing that at any time his injury will flare up.

I remember Colin Cameron ( I think it was ) when he was at the Yams having a long standing ongoing pelvic problem that was putting his career in danger, he visited a specialist on Paris who sorted his problem practically overnight by of all things fitting him with a brace in his mouth ..... I don't know if Dylan's problem is similar, but I would like to hope that Hibs are scouring the earth in search of out of the box thinkers like the guy who sorted Cameron.

[southern hibby]

Excellent talent the lad has and an injury from reading above about 6 months to cure. I'm all for giving him time to heal and if he does giving him a new contract.
Do we really want to be like them not getting JC fit and letting him go? However we know what happened to him as a player. In my honest opinion give him time, if it doesn't work out at least players we go after will know Hibs do the honourable thing and stick by their players. Not saying it will but could be a factor in a future player signing for us over other teams.


GGTTH

[J-C]

As Brog said there is no real guarantee 6 months out will actually help Dylan but in saying that, he's never had long enough rest to see if it will really work.

I've had both my hips done 2009 and 2013, the hip twists when the stronger side muscles take over the weaker side, this then creates problems in the groin, buttocks, hamstrings etc which are all connected to each other. This is similar to Dylans problem, the stronger side putting pressure on the weaker side ( an imbalance ) which then creates the muscular tweaks he gets on a regular basis. Pilates and corrective physio could work and should be recommended but complete rehab is a must.

[emerald green]

I'd like to wish Dylan all the very best in trying to find a permanent solution to his physical problem, if I may describe it that way. It must be very frustrating for him as a professional footballer, so good luck and hope it's sorted soon.

[21.05.2016]

So is that grant Holt leaving then?

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Shame if true as I would have liked to have seen how he faired in the premiership

[18Hibee75]

Shame if true as I would have liked to have seen how he faired in the premiership
Agree.

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[Stevie Reid]

If 6 months out will sort Dylan then it will be well worth it to give him that time, I can only imagine what an impact a fully fit Dylan would be able to make, he must be hampered just now fearing that at any time his injury will flare up.

I remember Colin Cameron ( I think it was ) when he was at the Yams having a long standing ongoing pelvic problem that was putting his career in danger, he visited a specialist on Paris who sorted his problem practically overnight by of all things fitting him with a brace in his mouth ..... I don't know if Dylan's problem is similar, but I would like to hope that Hibs are scouring the earth in search of out of the box thinkers like the guy who sorted Cameron.

Very true about Cameron. Easy to forget that Hearts were bottom of the league with only a few games of the season left when we were on our way back from the First Division. Cameron returned form that injury, scored many goals and quickly eased their relegation fears.

[Dashing Bob S]

Very true about Cameron. Easy to forget that Hearts were bottom of the league with only a few games of the season left when we were on our way back from the First Division. Cameron returned form that injury, scored many goals and quickly eased their relegation fears.

I'd much rather see posts like this, demonstrating a game plan to sort out the problem rather than the pointless 'we need him, even if it's only for a few weeks' or 'luxury we can't afford'.

[Ken]

I know the 6 months physio and treatment isn't guaranteed to fix the problem but I think it's worth trying. He's an exceptionally talented player but I see him missing at least half the season if he continues as he is and by giving him the lengthy layoff he'll only miss the 1st round of league games. If we fix the problem I think he would be loyal and sign another contract or at least a years extension and if the problem comes back he'll probably leave next summer anyway. He's got age on his side which is a positive thing


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[weecounty hibby]

We need to explore every avenue to getting him for. We would have won the semi if he had stayed on, he was really controlling the game at that point . Very very good player.

[edwards]

Just makes a difference to the team and him and Henderson used to click when playing.

[jacomo]

Very true about Cameron. Easy to forget that Hearts were bottom of the league with only a few games of the season left when we were on our way back from the First Division. Cameron returned form that injury, scored many goals and quickly eased their relegation fears.


IIRC Steven Gerrard had his wisdom teeth removed to sort his chronic groin injuries.

[Lex7zero]

No it's not true.

Dylan on the pitch is without a doubt our best player, persevere and let's hope he comes back fitter next season. If not I would still give him a contract if he gives us 15 games. Different class.

[Lex7zero]

DEFINITELY worth taking (another) gamble on. He's a superb footballer and we should go all out to get him healthy - even if, as some have suggested - that would take six months. To replace him with similar quality without the injuries would cost millions.

Totally agree, a blind man could see that Dylan is the MAn pulling all the strings in midfield. Love McGinn and Bartley but Mc Geoch is class and hope he can stay injury free and strut his stuff in the Pemiership.

[alihibs1]

Dylan has an acute pelvic problem, his hips are imbalanced which means one side has a little twist and causes a weakness. He needs to be not playing for about 6 months with intense physio and rehab to bring his hips back into alignment, can he/we afford to have him out for so long.
If that's right then surely this was the season to do it?

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[J-C]

IIRC Steven Gerrard had his wisdom teeth removed to sort his chronic groin injuries.


http://www.sport.co.uk/football/van-persie-follows-gerrard-and-malouda-wisdom-in-dental-stakes/20730

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/english-football/2010/12/08/2251875/arsenal-captain-cesc-fabregas-considered-dental-surgery-to-solve-


I thought you were talking BS until I read these :greengrin

[Stevie Reid]

IIRC Steven Gerrard had his wisdom teeth removed to sort his chronic groin injuries.

Were wisdom teeth not the cause of some of Basher Lavety's injury problems for us after he first arrived?

Extra curricular activities, aside :greengrin