Nick Walsh

[Northernhibee]

A red card for McGregor and a booking for Bartley for sweet **** all at the end there.

An utter disgrace of a man and a referee. I hope he's hung out to dry by Neil Lennon, ban the ****er from Easter Road. We should not have to put up with such blatantly incompetant refereeing.

[Joe6-2]

I've never once thought the referees in this country are incompetent! F****ng cheats!

[MWHIBBIES]

Disgraceful, guy tries to break Forsters leg and will get same punishment as Daz.

[pogo]

I thought Marv was already booked in the first half?

[BoomtownHibees]

I thought Marv was already booked in the first half?

He was.

What's your point?

[chasitup]

A red card for McGregor and a booking for Bartley for sweet **** all at the end there.

An utter disgrace of a man and a referee. I hope he's hung out to dry by Neil Lennon, ban the ****er from Easter Road. We should not have to put up with such blatantly incompetant refereeing.
So he failed to send Bartley off (sent him off against Ayr for nothing earlier in the season) for his second non yellow?

[Northernhibee]

Was it Bartley booked at the end? No idea what was going on after our players started getting red carded for no reason.

[Dalianwanda]

I'm almost certain it was him that pushed their player to the ground..could make out what mcgregor did?

[Bristolhibby]

I'm almost certain it was him that pushed their player to the ground..could make out what mcgregor did?

Right enough, Bartley and McGregor do look similar.

J

[pogo]

Just had a look back at the BBC live text, and they're saying it was Graham booked at the end, not Bartley.

[AL-Qaholik]

Was it Bartley booked at the end? No idea what was going on after our players started getting red carded for no reason.



It was Graham. For essentially nothing.

[Scottie]

Right enough, Bartley and McGregor do look similar.

J
:faf:

[chasitup]

It was Graham. For essentially nothing.
Thanks for clearing that up. Nick Walsh is yet another imposter of a referee in a long long line of incompetent fuds.

[Dalianwanda]

Right enough, Bartley and McGregor do look similar.

J

I was talking about the refs push

[madhatter]

I'm almost certain it was him that pushed their player to the ground..could make out what mcgregor did?

Ran close to the player and I think might have been pointing at him and then player decided to fall to the ground. Cheat, simples. Its a mans game and he should get double the suspension for the tackle and cheating but he won't.

We can't buy a penalty really even stonewallers, we tend to get red carded the same time as the opposition for mass brawls after they do their 5-6 bad foul...something isn't right. Bartley gets booked and sent off for touching the opposition.

I pose this question if McGregor hadn't stormed in among the rest would the Morton player have been sent off? No, pretty sure it was going to be a booking...

[stoneyburn hibs]

Right enough, Bartley and McGregor do look similar.

J

S******

[SouthMoroccoStu]

No help from either assistant ref either

East stand side - The Morton keeper gathered the ball outside his box by about a yard - got away with it

West stand side - No way in hell did McGregor touch that hacking bar steward - he'd still be on the ground now if McGregor had decided to go through him.

No doubt hibs will get a fine for "failing to control" our players

[SRHibs]

S******

Wow, we're not in the 1950's anymore!

[SaulGoodman]

S******

Christ I would've checked that about 100 times before hitting the submit button.

[houstonhibbee]

It was Graham. For essentially nothing.
He was shouting at the ref, so maybe said something

[stoneyburn hibs]

Christ I would've checked that about 100 times before hitting the submit button.

Haha, realised that as soon as I did submit, phew!

[davhibby]

SFA see him as their next up and coming ref. Fits the bill, totally full of himself and makes sure he's the centre of attention. Awful standard of refereeing we have in this country

[HibernianJK]

Up until the final 5 minutes I didn't think he had a bad game and people are just looking for excuses to deflect away from another shocking performance. Could just be me though.

[calumhibee1]

Christ I would've checked that about 100 times before hitting the submit button.

:greengrin

[cookin_on_gaz]

Wow, we're not in the 1950's anymore!

Dont think there was any intention there, just an unfortunate similarity between words

[calumhibee1]

Watching these referees who are paid very handsomely for the work that they do take the easy, cowards way out every single ****ing game is ridiculous now. As soon as there boy got sent off, I said McGregor would be sent off. As soon as Lennon was sent off I said Duffy would also get sent off. And you're trying to tell me that in that 30 man stramash that nobody done anything worse than what McGregor done? Or anything else "worthy" of a red card? He didn't have a ****ing clue what happened, wanted to be seen to be dealing with it and so he sent off the obvious one (there player) sent off McGregor to even it up (for nothing) then decided it would be nice and even if he sent off both managers aswell. And to think that these guys are paid a full time footballers wage to perform absolutely horrendously week in week out in a part time job.

[calumhibee1]

Up until the final 5 minutes I didn't think he had a bad game and people are just looking for excuses to deflect away from another shocking performance. Could just be me though.

The keeper catching the ball outside the box while both his feet were planted outside and the ball was even further outside of it was laughable. Yet again, the easy way out as he would have potentially had to send him off. Instead just pretend it didn't happen and you don't have to make a decision. Same with the goal kick at the very end. Blatant corner, but it could have potentially lead to a goal and Morton players giving him pelters, so what does he do? Gives a goal kick and blows for full time before the keeper has even kicked it. Him, and every other referee employed by the SFA are absolute cowards and a disgrace.

[LaMotta]

No help from either assistant ref either

East stand side - The Morton keeper gathered the ball outside his box by about a yard - got away with it

West stand side - No way in hell did McGregor touch that hacking bar steward - he'd still be on the ground now if McGregor had decided to go through him.

No doubt hibs will get a fine for "failing to control" our players

Exactly this. The ref actually had a relatively decent game - I didn't see Bartleys yellow incident in first half so not sure about that, but he played good advantages and brought back their players to book them when needed. He correctly sent off the Morton fud, and as you say it was the lino that got McGregor sent off and the lino that should have have flagged when keeper out the box.

Lennon had to go as well for parading about the pitch like that, but it was great to see a Hibs manager with who cares so much :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

Exactly this. The ref actually had a relatively decent game - I didn't see Bartleys yellow incident in first half so not sure about that, but he played good advantages and brought back their players to book them when needed. He correctly sent off the Morton fud, and as you say it was the lino that got McGregor sent off and the lino that should have have flagged when keeper out the box.

Lennon had to go as well for parading about the pitch like that, but it was great to see a Hibs manager with who cares so much :greengrin

The linesmen in Scottish football are clearly instructed not to flag for anything without the referees consent other than offsides. They don't even flag for throw ins until the ref has indicated. If that's the way they want to officiate the game then that's fine, however all wrong decisions then become the refs problem, not his flag bearers who are only there to signal things.

[Peevemor]

I was talking about the refs push
It looked to me like it was the ref that pushed the Morton player to the ground (2 handed shove). Must have been a dodgy camera angle.

Just had a look back at the BBC live text, and they're saying it was Graham booked at the end, not Bartley.

[ancient hibee]

Once again an away team at Easter Road chalk up 20 fouls.

[Kato]

The keeper catching the ball outside the box while both his feet were planted outside and the ball was even further outside of it was laughable. Yet again, the easy way out as he would have potentially had to send him off. Instead just pretend it didn't happen and you don't have to make a decision.


Do you think he would have sent Marciano off if he had done the same?

[emerald green]

It's pretty clear to me that Marvin Bartley's card has been marked by Scottish referees.

Foul after foul by various Morton players went totally unpunished, but the first player into the book was Bartley.

[BSEJVT]

It's pretty clear to me that Marvin Bartley's card has been marked by Scottish referees.

Foul after foul by various Morton players went totally unpunished, but the first player into the book was Bartley.

I actually thought the Morton player ran across Bartley who accidently tripped him, but maybe he is just a bit cuter at such things than I was!

[LaMotta]

The linesmen in Scottish football are clearly instructed not to flag for anything without the referees consent other than offsides. They don't even flag for throw ins until the ref has indicated. If that's the way they want to officiate the game then that's fine, however all wrong decisions then become the refs problem, not his flag bearers who are only there to signal things.

They dont flag now for fouls or incidents cos they are miked up to the refs ear instead. They still influence his decisions or lack of as we seen twice tonight!

[SRHibs]

Dont think there was any intention there, just an unfortunate similarity between wordsJust to clarify, I was joking. :wink:

[emerald green]

I actually thought the Morton player ran across Bartley who accidently tripped him, but maybe he is just a bit cuter at such things than I was!

Whatever happened, it looked really soft, and to put Bartley in the book for it just seems to stink to high heaven.

[Smartie]

I also thought he had a generally decent game until the last 5 minutes.

I didn't see Bartley's booking properly but it looked soft.

The goalkeeper handball was the linesman's call and he let him down badly (as he did several times).

He was duped into thinking McGregor head butted their player and he'll be embarrassed to see it back.


I thought the linesmen were very poor tonight and were more culpable than the referee.

[hibbysam]

I also thought he had a generally decent game until the last 5 minutes.

I didn't see Bartley's booking properly but it looked soft.

The goalkeeper handball was the linesman's call and he let him down badly (as he did several times).

He was duped into thinking McGregor head butted their player and he'll be embarrassed to see it back.


I thought the linesmen were very poor tonight and were more culpable than the referee.

Duped?? He was standing between the pair when it happened. The fact he had to ask his linesman shows how utterly inept he is.

[telford hibbee]

It's pretty clear to me that Marvin Bartley's card has been marked by Scottish referees.

Foul after foul by various Morton players went totally unpunished, but the first player into the book was Bartley.

and not for the first time this season either

[speedy_gonzales]

The linesmen in Scottish football are clearly instructed not to flag for anything without the referees consent other than offsides. They don't even flag for throw ins until the ref has indicated. If that's the way they want to officiate the game then that's fine, however all wrong decisions then become the refs problem, not his flag bearers who are only there to signal things.
N'ah, unless something's been briefed out that I've missed that's not the case. Just last week the ref gave a throw in against us but the west stand official gave it to us, the ref then changed his mind as the assistant clearly had the better view.
Could have been a one off mind!

[calumhibee1]

N'ah, unless something's been briefed out that I've missed that's not the case. Just last week the ref gave a throw in against us but the west stand official gave it to us, the ref then changed his mind as the assistant clearly had the better view.
Could have been a one off mind!

It's definitely not the norm, I find myself exasperated at nearly every game watching the ref give the wrong decision while the linesman stands there holding onto his flag for dear life looking terrified.

[calumhibee1]

Do you think he would have sent Marciano off if he had done the same?

The way the red cards have went for us this season? There's a good chance he would have.

[mim]

Up until the final 5 minutes I didn't think he had a bad game and people are just looking for excuses to deflect away from another shocking performance. Could just be me though.


Exactly this. The ref actually had a relatively decent game - I didn't see Bartleys yellow incident in first half so not sure about that, but he played good advantages and brought back their players to book them when needed. He correctly sent off the Morton fud, and as you say it was the lino that got McGregor sent off and the lino that should have have flagged when keeper out the box.

Lennon had to go as well for parading about the pitch like that, but it was great to see a Hibs manager with who cares so much :greengrin

Agree with the above. People are looking for excuses here. That was one of the better referreeing performances this season imho. - I did miss the pagger at the end tho.

[WhileTheChief..]

It wasn't a niggly game at all and for the most part the ref was fine.

No problem with a few decisions not going our way or vice versa, it's part of the game.

The over analysis of refs after every game we drop points is mind numbingly boring and smacks of sour grapes though. They make mistakes in every game in every league in the world, just as all of our players do.

Not worth getting worked up about last nights game that's for sure.

[seanoheimhin]

Watching these referees who are paid very handsomely for the work that they do take the easy, cowards way out every single ****ing game is ridiculous now. As soon as there boy got sent off, I said McGregor would be sent off. As soon as Lennon was sent off I said Duffy would also get sent off. And you're trying to tell me that in that 30 man stramash that nobody done anything worse than what McGregor done? Or anything else "worthy" of a red card? He didn't have a ****ing clue what happened, wanted to be seen to be dealing with it and so he sent off the obvious one (there player) sent off McGregor to even it up (for nothing) then decided it would be nice and even if he sent off both managers aswell. And to think that these guys are paid a full time footballers wage to perform absolutely horrendously week in week out in a part time job.

That's exactly it!

Without fail I watch and pull my hair out at the vast majority of referees constantly taking the easy decision, irrespective of whether it's the correct decision. Not only big decisions like last night, but every single little niggle, throw in, goal kick, offside, and shirt pull in the whole game. I think it often tends to be the case down south as well, but the standard of officiating up here is honking right down to the nitty gritty. There are no doubt some biased referees in Scotland, but I'm more worried about the severe infestation of bottlers in these positions, always looking to give themselves the handiest afternoon possible rather than doing their ****ing job for once.

[snooky]

Ran close to the player and I think might have been pointing at him and then player decided to fall to the ground. Cheat, simples. Its a mans game and he should get double the suspension for the tackle and cheating but he won't.

We can't buy a penalty really even stonewallers, we tend to get red carded the same time as the opposition for mass brawls after they do their 5-6 bad foul...something isn't right. Bartley gets booked and sent off for touching the opposition.

I pose this question if McGregor hadn't stormed in among the rest would the Morton player have been sent off? No, pretty sure it was going to be a booking...

In a nutshell. I wonder what we did wrong to upset the SFA officials? :cup:

[ancient hibee]

I've never been one for conspiracy theories but I'm beginning to wonder about the "competence"of our referees.Yet again I see a team that commits far more fouls than us not reflected in the number of cards.I see a player taken aside while the referee points to various parts of the field (5 I think)where he has fouled but there is no card.A few Minutes later I see Marvin booked for a push from behind his first foul.I read the newspapers this morning and discover that my eyes did not deceive me,Gaston did catch the ball outside his area.A season where red cards have been rescinded.It stinks.

[mjhibby]

It's pretty clear to me that Marvin Bartley's card has been marked by Scottish referees.

Foul after foul by various Morton players went totally unpunished, but the first player into the book was Bartley.

Classic tactics in the championship. No wonder scottish football is so bad when we have managers like Duffy and Houston sending out teams to disrupt the other team rather than go and try and win the game. Only the pars have come at us this season and even away we've have been faced with 4-5-1. We are never going to develop players when teams like hibs spend most of the game trying to get past fouls and gamesmanship. Lets see how we do in the spl. I suspect we will surprise a lot of people though it shouldn't be that much of a surprise given our cup runs. The one thing this season has shown and the two under Stubbs is we are inconsistent. That's what Lennon needs to get to grips with.

[Geo_1875]

I've never been one for conspiracy theories but I'm beginning to wonder about the "competence"of our referees.Yet again I see a team that commits far more fouls than us not reflected in the number of cards.I see a player taken aside while the referee points to various parts of the field (5 I think)where he has fouled but there is no card.A few Minutes later I see Marvin booked for a push from behind his first foul.I read the newspapers this morning and discover that my eyes did not deceive me,Gaston did catch the ball outside his area.A season where red cards have been rescinded.It stinks.

Oliver committed 3 fouls within 90 seconds of play, and had committed a couple prior to that, before being spoken to by the referee and told no more. He committed at least 2 more that I noticed during the game without receiving a caution.

Bartley conceded a free-kick, his first foul of the game, and the referee proceeded to give himself a wedgie while running towards Bartley as he tried to extricate his yellow card from his pocket.

No sour grapes, just baffled by the inconsistency.

[mjhibby]

I've never been one for conspiracy theories but I'm beginning to wonder about the "competence"of our referees.Yet again I see a team that commits far more fouls than us not reflected in the number of cards.I see a player taken aside while the referee points to various parts of the field (5 I think)where he has fouled but there is no card.A few Minutes later I see Marvin booked for a push from behind his first foul.I read the newspapers this morning and discover that my eyes did not deceive me,Gaston did catch the ball outside his area.A season where red cards have been rescinded.It stinks.

I do believe that for whatever reason there is a bias against hibs. The one in the media is clear to see but I find that funny and just makes winning all the sweeter. Having officials bias against us is no laughing matter. Every time we get Stephen McLean as ref you don't notice he is there as he is great at what he does. most of the other refs wait far too long to get the cards our and the other mgrs exploit it. Plus Bartley's two sending off rescinded. As long as we go up I'll consign this season to the bin but next season it needs to be sorted. Btw who in their right mind thought putting Walsh in charge of last night's game thought it was a good idea. Surely we must speak to the refs supremo re the fouling we have to put with. It's so blatant or do they just rotate the refs. Had McLean been in charge of a few of our games we would be out of sight by now.

[WeeRussell]

Bartley deserved his booking last night. Was frustrated after chasing after a couple of their boys but was a completely needless and petulant trip that rightly earned a yellow card.

[ancient hibee]

Don't think so.

[Ringothedog]

The officials last night were worse than the officials on Saturday and that is saying something. Nick Walsh is nothing short of incompetent. This was the same referee that sent Bartley off against Ayr United.

[R'Albin]

Right enough, Bartley and McGregor do look similar.

J

Absolute nonsense. Bartley's hair is shaved while McGregor's is spiky.

[hibees59]

It wasn't a niggly game at all and for the most part the ref was fine.

No problem with a few decisions not going our way or vice versa, it's part of the game.

The over analysis of refs after every game we drop points is mind numbingly boring and smacks of sour grapes though. They make mistakes in every game in every league in the world, just as all of our players do.

Not worth getting worked up about last nights game that's for sure.

Agree with this. As for the keeper catching the ball outside the box we were inline and I thought he was just outside, mate thought he was inside. Itwasveryclose.

[WeeRussell]

Don't think so.

But you also thought he was booked for a "push". The incident took place in front of me and he very clearly deliberately tripped his opponent's legs, off the ball.