John McGinn

[HibsNutter]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4313132/Sunderland-boss-David-Moyes-looking-Hibs-John-McGinn.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

WBA and Sunderland said to be interested. Apparently they'd be able to get him for £1.5m :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

[1van Sprou7e]

Hope we can convince him to sign an extension before he leaves, only got 2 years left on his contract this summer so that might affect his price a little

[SChibs]

I reckon we should be able to hold out for about 3m.

[HibsNutter]

Hope we can convince him to sign an extension before he leaves, only got 2 years left on his contract this summer so that might affect his price a little

Yeh, hopefully a contract that will see him stay for one more year, sure he'd be happy to. Then when he goes he can go down South.

[007]

£1.5m is peanuts for an EPL club. He's worth way more than that.

[Dashing Bob S]

Heard he's going to Rangers.













Remember when people used to do that on here?

:lolrangers::lolrangers::lolrangers::lolrangers:

[Callyballybe]

I hope that's a joke. I'd be very disappointed if there was any truth in him being available for as little as £1.5m.

Hopefully just the ramblings of another trashy, waste of space, newspaper.

[hibbysam]

I reckon we should be able to hold out for about 3m.

£3m???? For a non Old Firm Scottish Cup & League Cup winner, who has played for his country and is only in his early 20's... I certainly hope and expect Leeann to have a bit more ambition than that.

[JackLadd]

Moyes was at the derby replay. Must think he can land JC and SJM for chocolate money.

[Diclonius]

Triple that and we'll think about it.

[TRC]

But Barry Mckay is worth 6m go figure...

[JimBHibees]

Triple that and we'll think about it.

Yep how much was Barrie McKay being quoted at 6 or 7m, lets start at that.

[CapitalGreen]

Moyes was at the derby replay. Must think he can land JC and SJM for chocolate money.

Will Moyes even be employed when the transfer window reopens!

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Triple that and we'll think about it.

And add in Defoe as a makeweight.

[18Hibee75]

I reckon we should be able to hold out for about 3m.
£3M plus defoe...

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[JackLadd]

Will Moyes even be employed when the transfer window reopens!


Hope not if he's trying to take our top young guys away on the cheap. Dour character and turgid football merchant.

[Callyballybe]

I don't know much about his contract other than he has 2 years left this summer. In all honesty, I'd like to see us make a serious attempt at extending this. If he isn't already one of the higher paid players at the club, then if possible, make him one.

We'll be very lucky to keep him over the summer, but if we do get a season out of him in the prem (if we go up!) I'd hate to see him go cheap.

I'm sure the club aren't ignorant of this however, and the quicker we can (hopefully) get promotion secured, I think we'll see movement from the club on this.

[3pm]

Release clause?

[where'stheslope]

John McGinn has only come to the fore since playing in the Championship with us, so that will have a bearing on the price offered.

If we kept him next season in the Premiership, then there is a better chance of getting a better offer.

The only team that has regularly brought big money offers from down south is Celtic, as they appear to win everything up here.

Now even that is taking a turn, look at the players they have been bringing in and the money they are spending to get them!

If we want to progress in the Premiership, we need to keep our best players and get better than we have for the rest of the team, or I fear we could become a yo yo team if we let our best players go!!!!

[jgl07]

I seem to recall Kevin Thomson and Scott Allen going to West Brom and not asking an impression. Also Anthony Stokes didn't make it at Sunderland.

John McGinn needs to be careful here. He is getting into the Scotland squad by playing for Hibs even in the Championship. Will he get in not playing for West Brom?

Not getting a game or being farmed out to an English League 1 or League 2 side is the last thing a player needs at his stage of career.

[jacomo]

Will Moyes even be employed when the transfer window reopens!

Not sure, but I doubt Sunderland will still be a Premiership club.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Seen a link to an article from the local Sunderland paper on Facebook ( sorry cant do one to the article ) that said Moyes was at Tannadice to cast an eye over Ambrose, Cummings and McGinn.

The paper gave a rundown on the merits of each player .... it was very nice about Ambrose, which aint of much interest to us coz he's a Celtic player. It was also complimentary about Cummings, especially his workrate and cited his red card for handball as a sign of his determination to score by hook or by crook and seen it as a positive :greengrin

As for John McGinn .... the article said he was definitely promising, but also said they doubted he would be able to cope with the physical demands of England's top two divisions ???

[SirDavidsNapper]

1.5 million sale wouldn't even be worth it after St Mirrens cut

[Lancs Harp]

When John does move on he needs to think very carefully about where he goes. We all know money turns heads but career wise he needs a club that will improve him as a player and give him game time. As controversial as this may seem on here but I dont think John would regularly figure for any EPL team at present.

Anyone know who his agent is?

[Deansy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4313132/Sunderland-boss-David-Moyes-looking-Hibs-John-McGinn.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

WBA and Sunderland said to be interested. Apparently they'd be able to get him for £1.5m :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

As it's the 'Daily Tory' it's no small wonder you've used the 'ROTHFL' - alao applicable to all the other MSM-Rags as well !

[rodhibs55]

When John does move on he needs to think very carefully about where he goes. We all know money turns heads but career wise he needs a club that will improve him as a player and give him game time. As controversial as this may seem on here but I dont think John would regularly figure for any EPL team at present.

Anyone know who his agent is?

One of the reasons he is involved in the national side is that he can cope with the physical demands so there would be no problem on that side playing for an epl side. Add this to his undoubted ability, then I think he can feature regularly.
On another side, I like all of us, hope he doesn't go for a whileyet.

[Michael]

If he's going to an English club it better be for more than we got for Brown. If his name was Magginici he'd be worth £15m to an daft English club.

[Big L]

Seen a link to an article from the local Sunderland paper on Facebook ( sorry cant do one to the article ) that said Moyes was at Tannadice to cast an eye over Ambrose, Cummings and McGinn.

The paper gave a rundown on the merits of each player .... it was very nice about Ambrose, which aint of much interest to us coz he's a Celtic player. It was also complimentary about Cummings, especially his workrate and cited his red card for handball as a sign of his determination to score by hook or by crook and seen it as a positive :greengrin

As for John McGinn .... the article said he was definitely promising, but also said they doubted he would be able to cope with the physical demands of England's top two divisions ???

I read that, and I think I agree with that, they're always looking for 6ft plus athletes. On the other hand that's good news because it means he might stay with us a bit a bit longer.

[Lancs Harp]

Never mind an English club, sell him to China we'll get about 3 billion for him.

[Onion]

I reckon we should be able to hold out for about 3m.

Sounds about right, with a 20% future sell on clause :thumbsup:

[Cat Stanton]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4313132/Sunderland-boss-David-Moyes-looking-Hibs-John-McGinn.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

WBA and Sunderland said to be interested. Apparently they'd be able to get him for £1.5m :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

There are a great many reasons not to read the Daily Mail. This is just another one.

Don't click the link either - it just encourages them.

[seanshow]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4313132/Sunderland-boss-David-Moyes-looking-Hibs-John-McGinn.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

WBA and Sunderland said to be interested. Apparently they'd be able to get him for £11.5m


I sorted that for the delusional journalist. :wink:

[Allant1981]

cant see him going for anything higher than a couple of million, really good player but how many teams in scotland apart from celtic sell players for that much money

[Greenworld]

Lol 4 / 5 million no problem

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[Keyser Sauzee]

Folk saying "but Barrie McKay is worth 6/7m so we should be looking at that" get real. Firstly a ***** newspaper quoted, sorry, made up that figure so it's nonsense until a bid comes in of that range. Secondly I doubt we will see a figure of more than £4m max for SJM, and even that is a push. £3m is what we will be looking at.

[Winston Ingram]

Folk saying "but Barrie McKay is worth 6/7m so we should be looking at that" get real. Firstly a ***** newspaper quoted, sorry, made up that figure so it's nonsense until a bid comes in of that range. Secondly I doubt we will see a figure of more than £4m max for SJM, and even that is a push. £3m is what we will be looking at.

Weegia journos under the instructions of Jim Traynor i suspect.

Barrie Mackay's stats for a forward playing in the top 3 in Scotland would be lucky if they justified a spend of £200k

[Sir David Gray]

Never mind an English club, sell him to China we'll get about 3 billion for him.

Good idea, then we can finally afford to fill in the corners at ER! :greengrin

[Lancs Harp]

Good idea, then we can finally afford to fill in the corners at ER! :greengrin

We'll call them the McGinn corners in his honour.

It will be brilliant., we'll be top of the SPL, in the Champions league, we'll even have free pies and padded armchairs in the East. Messi, Bale and Holt upfront.

Meanwhile SJM will be living off chow mein and egg foo yung in Tianjin or some place.

[StevieCowan]

If an English EPL club went shopping in Scandinavia for a 22 year old, national Cup winner, internationalist and rated one of the best players in the country then you would've bat an eyelid if they paid £5m for him.

[Smartie]

I seem to recall Kevin Thomson and Scott Allen going to West Brom and not asking an impression. Also Anthony Stokes didn't make it at Sunderland.

John McGinn needs to be careful here. He is getting into the Scotland squad by playing for Hibs even in the Championship. Will he get in not playing for West Brom?

Not getting a game or being farmed out to an English League 1 or League 2 side is the last thing a player needs at his stage of career.

True, but there are players who have gone down South and HAVE made an impression.

McGinn will be a confident boy and will fancy his chances to take a step up and make it. He's played a lot of games in the Scottish premier League for St Mirren, has done the business for us in our biggest games and has done well for Scotland when selected.

Robert Snodgrass has made a big impression down South, Graham Dorrans did well for West Brom. Naismith did well at Everton and Norwich. Plenty of players have gone to the Championship and done well.

Whilst he does need to be careful, I don't think he should be fearful and I'd back him to take a step up and make an impact.

I also think we need to be realistic about our place in the footballing world. Whilst we have a lot to offer players on their way up, if a player does well then they will naturally want to move on to play on a bigger stage and earn the money that goes with that.

[cammy1969]

For me i think what McGinnis worth to us and to other teams down south is worlds apart. The bigger clubs want to come steal pillage and abuse us Scottish clubs let's hope Leann and the tash stay strong and get what we want and not the pennies they think they bully clubs in to taking or even better don't sell.


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[NadeAteMyLunch!]

10 mill for them both and we can start talking. Not even joking.

[silverhibee]

He will be a Celtc player next season, Rodgers is a big fan.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Is St.Mirren not due a cut of any transfer fee? Heard it could be as high as 30%

[SteveHFC]

He will be a Celtc player next season, Rodgers is a big fan.


£3M with Hendo and Mackay-Steven in exchange please.

[1875godsgift]

We'll call them the McGinn corners in his honour.

It will be brilliant., we'll be top of the SPL, in the Champions league, we'll even have free pies and padded armchairs in the East. Messi, Bale and Holt upfront.

Meanwhile SJM will be living off chow mein and egg foo yung in Tianjin or some place.

Can we call one of them The Henderson Corner? :flag:

[houstonhibbee]

He will be a Celtc player next season, Rodgers is a big fan.
if so Rodgers may be happy to wait another season. Why would Hibs sell him anyway in the summer with 2 years left....

[eastcoasthibby]

[QUOTE=JackLadd;4978562]Moyes was at the derby replay. Must think he can land JC and SJM for chocolate money.[/QUOTE

Moyes needs a lot more than these two young boys, yes might fit financial part, but I don't think JC would cope there and being brutally honest I can't make up my mind where Jason in terms of his level of playing ability. Don't doubt he will move in the summer but how it works out will be interesting to see. I think McGinn probably would fit in at Sunderland he has a different mindset and ability, and Championship is probably right stepping stone , but even Sunderland would need to fork out for him and 3-4 million would be about right ..but time will tell.
Would love to see both stay if we get up and see what they can give us in Premier !!

[djs69]

Someone on here was convinced st midden have a 30% sell on clause, hence how we managed to secure him

[Mike_C]

Is St.Mirren not due a cut of any transfer fee? Heard it could be as high as 30%

My info is £250k - and it goes to the previous owners, not St Mirren!! Info re St Mirren is normally spot on, particularly when it relates to the previous board.

[Gmack7]

My info is £250k - and it goes to the previous owners, not St Mirren!! Info re St Mirren is normally spot on, particularly when it relates to the previous board.
My info is that st mirren are 100% getting 30% of any transfer fee, I'm sure their chairman said as much St the AGM

[JimBHibees]

My info is that st mirren are 100% getting 30% of any transfer fee, I'm sure their chairman said as much St the AGM

He did cant imagine he would say that publically if it wasnt true though stranger things have happened.

[HibsNutter]

Someone on here was convinced st midden have a 30% sell on clause, hence how we managed to secure him

I really don't think we'd have had to pay a development fee and offer a sell on percentage for a player who was out of contract at the time.

[mjhibby]

Highly unlikely to be 30%. Most sell on clauses are between 10 and 25% so I would guess it's probably around 20%. McGinn will go for at least £3m as he is such an emerging player. Remember we turned down £1.7m for Jason. I'm sure sjm will want to have a season in the spl with us and I can see him signing a 3 year contract and ensuring we get the proper fee for him. He doesn't seem the type of guy tomove for purely money and given how great we seem to be in the cups he is getting plenty of big games. Definetely stubbsys best bit of business.

[CallumLaidlaw]

There is no reason to doubt the 30%. It was a figure given by the St Mirren chairman at their AGM after he signed for us. My take is, we couldn't reach the development fee that St Mirren were looking for so to avoid it going to a tribunal we agreed to a substantial sell on.

[Johnny_Leith]

Think the St mirren chairman was quoted saying 33% for SJM but I'd be tempted, if they go down this season, to offer to buy that clause out for say 100k, guaranteed to save ourselves a whack of cash and st Mirren probably won't be in a position to refuse 100k upfront.

Anyway, get promoted, new contact for SJM, another year from him and then sell him for £3m+ is probably the way it's going to go(hopefully)

[Hibs90]

Heres a thought, why don't we just don't sell him? Keep him happy, keep his contract decent and we'll have a player for years.

Maybe Super John wants to stay and wants a crack at the Premiership with us?

[Keyser Sauzee]

Heres a thought, why don't we just don't sell him? Keep him happy, keep his contract decent and we'll have a player for years.

Maybe Super John wants to stay and wants a crack at the Premiership with us?

Ok, it's a thought, a pie in the sky thought, but it's a thought none the less

[mjhibby]

There is no reason to doubt the 30%. It was a figure given by the St Mirren chairman at their AGM after he signed for us. My take is, we couldn't reach the development fee that St Mirren were looking for so to avoid it going to a tribunal we agreed to a substantial sell on.

Not my take on it and I'm sure Stubbs mentioned we did pay a fee as we had too but agreed a sell on %. I'm sure sjm wanted to see st mirren looked after.

[mjhibby]

Having checked the evening news again we paid them £100,000 for McGinn. Every club tends to exaggerate if they are selling a player or say they bought them for less if they are buying. I'm sure if/ when sjm eventually goes we will find out.

[patlowe]

I can see McGinn going in the summer for £2-3m and if he does he would still have to go down as the best piece of business the club has ever done in terms of first-team recruitment and sell-on profit. And who's to say that there aren't more John McGinn's out there to invest in with that money, if we do our homework.

If the club was to play hardball to get the sort of fee we would be looking for, would we accept a couple of years more service if he ends up leaving for nothing in 2019?

Can't see him signing a new contract but I said that about Hanlon and Cummings in the summer and the club pulled a couple of rabbits out the hat there. He does seem a sensible chap but he's already shown a willingness to move on for the sake of his career when he left St Mirren. On the other hand, he has found himself in the Scotland squad playing in the Scottish Championship so staying with us clearly won't be a huge barrier from that point of view.

Ach, let's just enjoy him while he's here. A joy to watch, even when he's off form his tenacity and positive attitude mark him out as a top player.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I feel like I've fell into a football twilight zone ...SJM is worth way more than 1.5m

[hibbysam]

I can see McGinn going in the summer for £2-3m and if he does he would still have to go down as the best piece of business the club has ever done in terms of first-team recruitment and sell-on profit. And who's to say that there aren't more John McGinn's out there to invest in with that money, if we do our homework.

If the club was to play hardball to get the sort of fee we would be looking for, would we accept a couple of years more service if he ends up leaving for nothing in 2019?

Can't see him signing a new contract but I said that about Hanlon and Cummings in the summer and the club pulled a couple of rabbits out the hat there. He does seem a sensible chap but he's already shown a willingness to move on for the sake of his career when he left St Mirren. On the other hand, he has found himself in the Scotland squad playing in the Scottish Championship so staying with us clearly won't be a huge barrier from that point of view.

Ach, let's just enjoy him while he's here. A joy to watch, even when he's off form his tenacity and positive attitude mark him out as a top player.

Bit in bold, he would probably have stayed at St Mirren had he not been attacked on the training ground by Stephen Thompson. That's what pushed him out the door, not the fact that Hibs came calling.

[CallumLaidlaw]

I feel like I've fell into a football twilight zone ...SJM is worth way more than 1.5m

Correct. We sold Scott Brown for £4.5m ten years ago. Grant Hanley moved between 2 English Championship clubs for over £5m in the summer.

It is offensive for SJM to be "valued" at £1.5m by the English media when you see some of the absolute tosh that get transferred between their clubs for fees of £5m-£10m.

[MrRobot]

1.5 million sale wouldn't even be worth it after St Mirrens cut

????

Didnt we sign McGinn on a bosman and paid the development fee so therefore there should be no sell on clause?

[NAE NOOKIE]

Correct. We sold Scott Brown for £4.5m ten years ago. Grant Hanley moved between 2 English Championship clubs for over £5m in the summer.

It is offensive for SJM to be "valued" at £1.5m by the English media when you see some of the absolute tosh that get transferred between their clubs for fees of £5m-£10m.

This, with a cherry on top.

Even if Sunderland go down they will pick up a massive parachute payment and look to cut some of the overpaid dross that got them relegated as well. WBA might not be rich in English terms, but in European terms they are I'm willing to bet.

Just as a matter of principle we shouldn't even start talking to any of these clubs at under 2 million for Cummings or McGinn, I don't care what league we are playing in ...... in fact an E Mail saying 2 million should be encouragement to pick up the phone and talk and that's all.

McGinn has been capped for Scotland, has a cup winners medal, two league cup winners medals and runners up medal and by the end of the season will hopefully have a championship winners medal, all at the age of 22 and he will be recognised as having had a big influence in the teams ability to win all that stuff ...... 1.5 million would frankly be an insult, especially from any club to whom that is pocket money.

Cummings has scored 20 goals a season for 3 seasons .... that's impressive in any league and you can see him improving all the time, especially in the last 3 months IMO ..... Of all the players in the world there's a reason goalscorers command the biggest prices, in that context JC's potential is worth a minimum of 2 million and lets not forget we turned down 1.5 from Peterborough .... not Man Utd, Effing Peterborough!!! ...... IMO that makes any offer from WBA, Sunderland or any club of that size under 2 million quid a joke.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

I seem to recall Kevin Thomson going to West Brom.

When was this?

[Rivers Cuomo]

Bit in bold, he would probably have stayed at St Mirren had he not been attacked on the training ground by Stephen Thompson. That's what pushed him out the door, not the fact that Hibs came calling.


I thought it was a "training ground accident"?

[Hermit Crab]

£1.5m is peanuts for an EPL club. He's worth way more than that.



Sunderland might not be an EPL club next season

[kaimendhibs]

I can see McGinn going in the summer for £2-3m and if he does he would still have to go down as the best piece of business the club has ever done in terms of first-team recruitment and sell-on profit. And who's to say that there aren't more John McGinn's out there to invest in with that money, if we do our homework.

If the club was to play hardball to get the sort of fee we would be looking for, would we accept a couple of years more service if he ends up leaving for nothing in 2019?

Can't see him signing a new contract but I said that about Hanlon and Cummings in the summer and the club pulled a couple of rabbits out the hat there. He does seem a sensible chap but he's already shown a willingness to move on for the sake of his career when he left St Mirren. On the other hand, he has found himself in the Scotland squad playing in the Scottish Championship so staying with us clearly won't be a huge barrier from that point of view.

Ach, let's just enjoy him while he's here. A joy to watch, even when he's off form his tenacity and positive attitude mark him out as a top player.
We paid £5000 for Ivan and sold him to Bristol City for half a million iirc

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[HibsNutter]

I thought it was a "training ground accident"?

They were messing about and McGinn got hurt, there was no malice involved and McGinn has joked with Thompson over Twitter about it previously. Quite clearly he moved to Hibs for footballing reasons, he wasn't pushed out by big bully Thompson.

[Onion]

I feel like I've fell into a football twilight zone ...SJM is worth way more than 1.5m

Of course he is. This is typical paper talk about rich English clubs trying to steal the best Scottish talent for pennies.

I've no problem in Hibs selling SJM, as it was always going to happen, but Petrie MUST build in a decent percentage sell on clause as John will be traded down south in future years for a LOT more than £1.5M (possibly 10 x that). If Sunderland or whoever buys him does not like it, then they know full well they are trying to get him on the cheap.

[Spudster]

????

Didnt we sign McGinn on a bosman and paid the development fee so therefore there should be no sell on clause?

Because of his age we still needed to pay a tribunal fee. Instead we agreed on a small fee with a sell on clause.

[Dunbar Hibee]

Bit in bold, he would probably have stayed at St Mirren had he not been attacked on the training ground by Stephen Thompson. That's what pushed him out the door, not the fact that Hibs came calling.

That's a lot of pish I'm afraid, him and Thompson still have a laugh about that to this day. Quite frankly wasn't 'attacked' either.

[Vini1875]

I think our young players - McGinn and Cummings realy need to prove they can do something in the Premier League in Scotland. Even one year of continued improvement would boost their price and options for these guys. Both have talent and time on their side. As hard as the Championship has proved for us, McGinn and Cummings have to do it at a higher level week week out, then we will see them go for a very good price.

£1.5M for McGinn? Chase yersels sunderland.

[hibeemikey21]

That's a lot of pish I'm afraid, him and Thompson still have a laugh about that to this day. Quite frankly wasn't 'attacked' either.

He either skinned or tackled Thompson in training and, for a laugh, Thompson picked up a pole and threw it at him......and it embedded in McGinn's leg

[silverhibee]

There is no reason to doubt the 30%. It was a figure given by the St Mirren chairman at their AGM after he signed for us. My take is, we couldn't reach the development fee that St Mirren were looking for so to avoid it going to a tribunal we agreed to a substantial sell on.

Wonder if McGinn will get a share of it, was he not going to sue St Mirren for having a spike thrown at him, nothing seems to have come of that matter.

[HFCdeb]

Correct. We sold Scott Brown for £4.5m ten years ago. Grant Hanley moved between 2 English Championship clubs for over £5m in the summer.

It is offensive for SJM to be "valued" at £1.5m by the English media when you see some of the absolute tosh that get transferred between their clubs for fees of £5m-£10m.

This all day long.

[ian cruise]

Bit in bold, he would probably have stayed at St Mirren had he not been attacked on the training ground by Stephen Thompson. That's what pushed him out the door, not the fact that Hibs came calling.

I'm sure he and Thompson are still on good terms. I think you'll find it was more to do with where both clubs were going, it was obvious Hibs were making positive movements to improve the team and club whereas St Mirren were on a downward spiral since parting with Lennon.

[Big L]

????

Didnt we sign McGinn on a bosman and paid the development fee so therefore there should be no sell on clause?

I'm sure that's the case, he was in the USA on trial. Maybe HiBS agreed a sell on % and a small payment rather than take a chance on the Dev fee at a tribunal. He's certainly worth more than the £1.5Mil being quoted IMO.

[ancient hibee]

If we sell him,and Cummings,in the summer we will undoubtedly struggle in the bottom half of the table.Anyone who doesn't think that tell me which superior to them players we will sign.Starting the new league with a weakened team is crazy.

[SirDavidsNapper]

If we sell him,and Cummings,in the summer we will undoubtedly struggle in the bottom half of the table.Anyone who doesn't think that tell me which superior to them players we will sign.Starting the new league with a weakened team is crazy.

We thought we'd be screwed without Scott Alan too then brought in Hendo and Dylan. Wouldn't be the end of the world especially if we got a sizeable fee which it would have to be

[ancient hibee]

We thought we'd be screwed without Scott Alan too then brought in Hendo and Dylan. Wouldn't be the end of the world especially if we got a sizeable fee which it would have to be
Who would we spend the sizeable fee on?Would they be any better?

[SirDavidsNapper]

????

Didnt we sign McGinn on a bosman and paid the development fee so therefore there should be no sell on clause?

Sure I read St Mirren have a 40% sell on

[neil7908]

Who would we spend the sizeable fee on?Would they be any better?

We could go back to St Mirren again and have a look at Mallen, seems a decent player.

With the cash we're talking about we might tempt Hendo back.

[ian cruise]

Sure I read St Mirren have a 40% sell on

150k. FACT.

[WhileTheChief..]

The spike in the leg thing was definitely a factor in St Mirren agreeing to sell him to us at that price. It avoided McGinn taking them to court.

And yes, St Mirren get 40% of any profit made when we sell him on.

[ian cruise]

The spike in the leg thing was definitely a factor in St Mirren agreeing to sell him to us at that price. It avoided McGinn taking them to court.

And yes, St Mirren get 40% of any profit made when we sell him on.

Don't disagree it helped St Mirren make their mind up but McGinn had already decided to move on to further his career. The threat of legal action was because it may have hampered his chances of finding a new club.

[SirDavidsNapper]

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[Big L]

If we sell him,and Cummings,in the summer we will undoubtedly struggle in the bottom half of the table.Anyone who doesn't think that tell me which superior to them players we will sign.Starting the new league with a weakened team is crazy.

It's been a right battle getting up, I wouldn't want to come right back down again. If we have to sell them I think we would be better dealing with Celtic. I say that because we might get a couple of good players and some cash.players like GMS, Hendo, Christie and poss LG. no matter what anyone says, I don't think he's Rodgers type and Leigh won't sit on the bench forever.

[houstonhibbee]

It's been a right battle getting up, I wouldn't want to come right back down again. If we have to sell them I think we would be better dealing with Celtic. I say that because we might get a couple of good players and some cash.players like GMS, Hendo, Christie and poss LG. no matter what anyone says, I don't think he's Rodgers type and Leigh won't sit on the bench forever.
how would we get any of these players except on loan? We can't afford their wages, so what's changed?

[HibsNutter]

It's been a right battle getting up, I wouldn't want to come right back down again. If we have to sell them I think we would be better dealing with Celtic. I say that because we might get a couple of good players and some cash.players like GMS, Hendo, Christie and poss LG. no matter what anyone says, I don't think he's Rodgers type and Leigh won't sit on the bench forever.

Do you want us to act like a feeder club? For ****'s sake.

[rodhibs55]

Regardless of how this all pans out, we can be sure of one thing, love him or hate him, Rod P will ensure we get market value and decent sell on as he did with our golden generation. The paltry £1.5 that is being quoted will not even raise a blink.
Again like all I hope both John and Jason stay for a while longer.

[hibsbollah]

150k. FACT.

I heard this too :agree:

[Big L]

Do you want us to act like a feeder club? For ****'s sake.

We've sold every decent player we've ever had, I can go right back to Joe Baker, Thomson, Brown Whittaker Fletcher, Riordan anyone that was above average got sold and it's not going to change and your naive if you think different. As for coping with Celtic rejects wages, if they want to play they have to accept what's on offer.

[Itsnoteasy]

Never mind an English club, sell him to China we'll get about 3 billion for him.

Hope that's not Yen

[OtleyHibs]

Regardless of how this all pans out, we can be sure of one thing, love him or hate him, Rod P will ensure we get market value and decent sell on as he did with our golden generation. The paltry £1.5 that is being quoted will not even raise a blink.
Again like all I hope both John and Jason stay for a while longer.

100% agree. English clubs may think we will bite their hands off for 1.5 million but these clubs have obviously never deal with Rod Petrie.

Never been his biggest fan (or his biggest critic for that matter!) but when it comes to selling on he always does well for us.

[Deansy]

£3M with Hendo and Mackay-Steven in exchange please.

If we we had to deal with Septic, okay - Hendo (****** MaCkay-Steven) and YOU-KNOW-WHO !. Then arrange with them that we should keep SJM for a further season to really develop him - we'd WIN the SPL !


If we sell him,and Cummings,in the summer we will undoubtedly struggle in the bottom half of the table.Anyone who doesn't think that tell me which superior to them players we will sign.Starting the new league with a weakened team is crazy.

That's what worries me too, all this talk of selling our best players but very little posts/threads on who's gonna replace them. The only good thing is that now the stadium's complete, whatever money we make from them won't vanish into the 'Stadium Development' book like it did for soooooo many years (Petrie's words - not mine - "Once the redevelopement of the stadium is complete, all available money will then be invested into fielding a team that reflects this magnificent stadium"). Should also mean we'd be able to afford a far better quality of replacement-player than we did in those dark-old days !

[rodhibs55]

We've sold every decent player we've ever had, I can go right back to Joe Baker, Thomson, Brown Whittaker Fletcher, Riordan anyone that was above average got sold and it's not going to change and your naive if you think different. As for coping with Celtic rejects wages, if they want to play they have to accept what's on offer.

Few more in the middle, Marinello, Stein, Cormack, Cropley, Blackley, Brownlee, Bremner and probaby a few more I have missed.

[hibbysam]

That's a lot of pish I'm afraid, him and Thompson still have a laugh about that to this day. Quite frankly wasn't 'attacked' either.

Firing the spike of a pole at someone after they take the pish out of you is attacking them. McGinn also started legal action around the incident, and only never pursued when St Mirren agreed compensation with Hibs. Read any article from that time, SJM certainly never found any of it funny and especially when it could have had far greater implications.

[jax67]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4313132/Sunderland-boss-David-Moyes-looking-Hibs-John-McGinn.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

WBA and Sunderland said to be interested. Apparently they'd be able to get him for £1.5m :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Could the £1.5 million be coming from darkheed?
Give it a week and then they come in with a £2 million
offer and we're meant to think it's a great deal.
Hoping SJM signs a new deal, and stays at least another year.

[Heisenberg]

Firing the spike of a pole at someone after they take the pish out of you is attacking them. McGinn also started legal action around the incident, and only never pursued when St Mirren agreed compensation with Hibs. Read any article from that time, SJM certainly never found any of it funny and especially when it could have had far greater implications.

He used the situation to his advantage to get a transfer. He certainly isn't bothered now. He turned up for a party hosted by Stephen Thompson with a mask of his face on and a corner flag pole. They are still good pals and the incident clearly means nothing to either of them now.

[Nicho87]

If Scott brown was sold for 5.5 nice years ago. Hibs would be mad to sell him for a penny less than 4.5 opening offers.

[hibbysam]

He used the situation to his advantage to get a transfer. He certainly isn't bothered now. He turned up for a party hosted by Stephen Thompson with a mask of his face on and a corner flag pole. They are still good pals and the incident clearly means nothing to either of them now.

I never once said he wasn't now, I said a big part of why he isn't at St Mirren is because of that incident and there was certainly ill feeling at the time.

[Heisenberg]

I never once said he wasn't now, I said a big part of why he isn't at St Mirren is because of that incident and there was certainly ill feeling at the time.

Fair enough then, sorry. He definitely used it to his advantage at the time.

[oldbutdim]

Was speaking to an old pal of mine today who is 'besties' with SJM's dad. Going with him to the semi.
He's happy at Hibs and only if we fail to get promoted will he be looking for a move.
No deals agreed with the Smellies.

[cammy1969]

Let's be honest does anybody really believe hibs will take any old bid for john Mc as much as the tash has had his failings over the past few years 1 that can't be levelled at him is his dealings in selling players, he plays hard ball big time the club gets the best deals possible as for replacing him I think Lennon still has a good name in the game and could get descent replacements imo


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[Zazu62]

It's Super John McGinn

[cammy1969]

It's Super John McGinn
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[silverhibee]

100% agree. English clubs may think we will bite their hands off for 1.5 million but these clubs have obviously never deal with Rod Petrie.

Never been his biggest fan (or his biggest critic for that matter!) but when it comes to selling on he always does well for us.


Leeann Dempster deals with this stuff nowadays.

[lapsedhibee]

Few more in the middle, Marinello, Stein, Cormack, Cropley, Blackley, Brownlee, Bremner and probaby a few more I have missed.

Martin, Scott, Hamilton ...

[OtleyHibs]

Leeann Dempster deals with this stuff nowadays.

Good point, different person but similar result I expect (mean that in a good way) when it comes time to sell. Actually, would have more confidence with Leeann that a suitable replacement would be lined up ahead of selling anyone.

[HibernianJK]

I think Mcginn right now is probably valued at somewhere between 2.5/3million. If he finishes this season strongly and has another good season next (i think he will stay) then 4million is probably a fair assessment.

[Big L]

I think Mcginn right now is probably valued at somewhere between 2.5/3million. If he finishes this season strongly and has another good season next (i think he will stay) then 4million is probably a fair assessment.


I agree on your assessment but you won't get £4 Mill for him when he only has one year left on his contract.

[Big L]

Martin, Scott, Hamilton ...

Joe Harper John Parks Andy Goram John Collins I think! Goram & Collins were the first two players to be sold under TF/RP presumably to cover the £2Mil guarantee he gave the bank when he took over. Oh and Paterson to Rangers!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

The minute our promotion is secure, we need to go to guys like SJM, Daz McGregor, Marvin Bartley and offer them improved contracts. Particularly SJM. I'd like to see us push the boat out slightly financially to offer him a decent wedge of cash in return for another season.

I don't think anyone is really expecting us to still have Mcginn come 18/19 season but I don't think we're being unreasonable hoping for another season from him. Has performed magically but he needs a season in the Scottish top flight before moving on.

At that point, I'd be looking for starting bids of £5M. The money flying about down England means they either throw it our way or we keep a hold of the players. They're choice

[houstonhibbee]

We've sold every decent player we've ever had, I can go right back to Joe Baker, Thomson, Brown Whittaker Fletcher, Riordan anyone that was above average got sold and it's not going to change and your naive if you think different. As for coping with Celtic rejects wages, if they want to play they have to accept what's on offer.
and offers may be more than Hibs can afford

[Big L]

and offers may be more than Hibs can afford

You can but try. The worry is that they sell our best players and don't spend the money to replace them, this way we could get a bit of quality.

[RamYer1902]

Straight swap from Duncan Watmore anyone? :faf: Seriously, £1.5m should be a laughed at for a player of his age and calibre.


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[Sammy7nil]

Do you want us to act like a feeder club? For ****'s sake.

We have been a feeder club since the Colin Stein transfer.

[Ronniekirk]

Its no Rod they are dealing with now He is going no where gor that type of fee unless we get a 60 % sell on clause for when he gets dold on for 10 million

[Greenworld]

John is a 4 million pound player and I would be amazed if we don't get that for him just as I will be amazed if that does not happen this summer

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[mjhibby]

Was speaking to an old pal of mine today who is 'besties' with SJM's dad. Going with him to the semi.
He's happy at Hibs and only if we fail to get promoted will he be looking for a move.
No deals agreed with the Smellies.

A lot could depend on Jason. I wouldn't be surprised if both Jason and sjm will have it in their minds to want a full season in the spl with hibs. I'm sure our manager will not sell either unless it's a huge bid and will be planning on his squad with them in it. They are both very early in their career and I'm sure the big money transfer,assuming they continue their form in the spl, will come.

[mjhibby]

Sounds about right, with a 20% future sell on clause :thumbsup:

Reading through aiden smiths persevered book Stubbs mentions that hibs were one of the few clubs to be willing to pay £100,000 which is what st mirren wanted. Once again no sell on clause mentioned. Only seems to be coming from the st mirren end of the deal.

[cmcd]

Few more in the middle, Marinello, Stein, Cormack, Cropley, Blackley, Brownlee, Bremner and probaby a few more I have missed.

All these players wanted to go and our club made lots of money .As for SJM and JC going in the summer I have yet to see a quote from either of them saying they want to go at the end of the season or in the summer.They are both under contract so there is no rush to push them out the door

[Ronniekirk]

Reading through aiden smiths persevered book Stubbs mentions that hibs were one of the few clubs to be willing to pay £100,000 which is what st mirren wanted. Once again no sell on clause mentioned. Only seems to be coming from the st mirren end of the deal.

Would be astonished if they haven't got a decent one in their though as they knew he was going to be a very good player snd was worth way more than what we paid for him


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[Ronniekirk]

A lot could depend on Jason. I wouldn't be surprised if both Jason and sjm will have it in their minds to want a full season in the spl with hibs. I'm sure our manager will not sell either unless it's a huge bid and will be planning on his squad with them in it. They are both very early in their career and I'm sure the big money transfer,assuming they continue their form in the spl, will come.

If Lennon stays and the Club show ambition by investing in the team and we sell 12 ,00 or so Season Tickets i can see them being prepared to stay one more Season
But depends who comes calling and if they think they will be first team picks Think they both want to. be playing week in week out
But the Club may feel they need to cash in on one player in the Summer given we have been three years in the Championship Money must be tight


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[J-C]

If Lennon stays and the Club show ambition by investing in the team and we sell 12 ,00 or so Season Tickets i can see them being prepared to stay one more Season
But depends who comes calling and if they think they will be first team picks Think they both want to. be playing week in week out
But the Club may feel they need to cash in on one player in the Summer given we have been three years in the Championship Money must be tight


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I spoke to him a couple of weeks ago and he didn't sound like he was going anywhere next season, he mentioned his preference was to go south rather than west.

[RamYer1902]

If we go up, manage to hold onto Cummings and McGinn and they both go on to have successful seasons in the top flight then they will get much better clubs in for them and we will get the fee we deserve. Cummings goals are invaluable and £2m should be laughed at. John is a Scotland international with a good amount of time left on his contract. Easily a 4 or 5 million pound plus player.


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[where'stheslope]

When we go up we need to strengthen the team not tear it apart by selling players!

OK so we will get money for them (not as much as we would like?) and that can be used to enhance the squad!

We need to start bringing through more of our home grown talent and stop this loanee crap we seem to be into at the moment.

The money paid to these loanees, is wasted as they all seem to go back to their respective clubs at the end of the loan deal?

Although we have had some success with loanees helping win the Scottish Cup and probably this League, they still return to their clubs a our team is the worst off for this, use this money to help bring in good young talent not loanees!!!!

[BSEJVT]

I love threads where folk state with certainty their opinion that so and so is worth x and others disagree

Most things in life have a price and that price is subject to many things, not least amongst which is the sellers desire to sell compared to the buyers need to buy.

Often these factors have more of an impact than the underlying value of the item itself.

This is particularly true of perishable items (such as a player running down his contract) and items with subjective assessment of their value rather than ones in which there is a readily tradable market such as gold where valuations are known.

There are also the unknowns of form or injury where footballers are concerned.

The late lamented Vlad failed spectacularly in his attempt at bankrolling a football club to profit from their transfer dealings and this side of someone having a Pogba moment over our 2 starlets value, I wouldn't be betting on some of the megabucks I have seen quoted on this thread for either.

[Big L]

All these players wanted to go and our club made lots of money .As for SJM and JC going in the summer I have yet to see a quote from either of them saying they want to go at the end of the season or in the summer.They are both under contract so there is no rush to push them out the door

Their was no bosman or player power in these days, their was no pressure on Hibs to sell but they always took the money. I can only hope your right as far as J McG & JC are concerned, if and when we get up we will need all our best players but I won't hold my breath.

[neil7908]

After tonight I'm not sure being a Scottish international is going to add any value to John's price. In fact, it may even be seen as a negative!

[silverhibee]

After listening to Srapons interview, he said something about players being rusty because they haven't being played for there club and he would rather see that tonight than on Sunday, looks like he will go with players who are playing in week week out, and it wouldn't surprise me if McGinn is in the squad for Sunday, He can't play D Fletcher and Broonie might not do 90 minutes which gives McGinn a shout as he is a hard worker who if he gets forward will always get back to defend.

Not the 1st time Strapon has pissed Lennon off in football.

[B.H.F.C]

After listening to Srapons interview, he said something about players being rusty because they haven't being played for there club and he would rather see that tonight than on Sunday, looks like he will go with players who are playing in week week out, and it wouldn't surprise me if McGinn is in the squad for Sunday, He can't play D Fletcher and Broonie might not do 90 minutes which gives McGinn a shout as he is a hard worker who if he gets forward will always get back to defend.

Not the 1st time Strapon has pissed Lennon off in football.

No chance McGinn will play.

Brown and Armstrong will both play. Fletcher will still be picked ahead of him. Cairney and Bannan as well.

Won't matter, Strachan still won't release him to play for us.

[silverhibee]

No chance McGinn will play.

Brown and Armstrong will both play. Fletcher will still be picked ahead of him. Cairney and Bannan as well.

Won't matter, Strachan still won't release him to play for us.

Not saying he will start, but there could now be a few pull outs with injuries after playing on that pitch tonight, it looked brick hard and would have taken it's toll on players legs, but with that in mind then Strapon will more than likely have McGinn in the Scotland squad for Sunday and probably not play him or give him the last 5-10 minutes at the end of the game on Sunday and ruling him out for our game on Saturday.

[jgl07]

I recall Rangers wanting to sign Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson for £2 million the pair. The full forces of the Record and the Sun were deployed to say that it was a good deal for Hibs.

Petrie told them to stuff it.

Rangers paid £2 million for Thomson and Celtic paid £4.5 million for Brown.

Transfer fees have gone up significantly since 2007.

[JimBHibees]

No chance McGinn will play.

Brown and Armstrong will both play. Fletcher will still be picked ahead of him. Cairney and Bannan as well.

Won't matter, Strachan still won't release him to play for us.

Personally think he will unless 3 or 4 injuries in midfield. He done us a favour only playing him for 15 mins problem would have been if he started and was outstanding. Hopefully he is in the Hibs team on Saturday.

[theonlywayisup]

I love threads where folk state with certainty their opinion that so and so is worth x and others disagree

Most things in life have a price and that price is subject to many things, not least amongst which is the sellers desire to sell compared to the buyers need to buy.

Often these factors have more of an impact than the underlying value of the item itself.

This is particularly true of perishable items (such as a player running down his contract) and items with subjective assessment of their value rather than ones in which there is a readily tradable market such as gold where valuations are known.

There are also the unknowns of form or injury where footballers are concerned.

The late lamented Vlad failed spectacularly in his attempt at bankrolling a football club to profit from their transfer dealings and this side of someone having a Pogba moment over our 2 starlets value, I wouldn't be betting on some of the megabucks I have seen quoted on this thread for either.

:agree: who would have imagined that Craig Gordon woud have been a £11m (or whatever it was) a few years ago - more likely now that he's playing for a 'bigger' team and teams like Chelsea are quoted as being interested.

[Bristolhibby]

Apparently SJM not being released by Scotland for Saturday.

J

[Ronniekirk]

Apparently SJM not being released by Scotland for Saturday.

J

He is a big miss in terms of his work rate snd getting stuck in which is what we need via Falkirk
Is Rocky awAy with Israel

Two big players to have missing for an important game Laidlaw is useful deputy in goal but S J M on form is a blow
Dylan may not be risked for whole game


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[hibbysam]

He is a big miss in terms of his work rate snd getting stuck in which is what we need via Falkirk
Is Rocky awAy with Israel

Two big players to have missing for an important game Laidlaw is useful deputy in goal but S J M on form is a blow
Dylan may not be risked for whole game


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Dylan, on that pitch, would probably find himself injured for the rest of the season. He has issues with his muscles, and playing on on a heavy mudbath won't help that one bit.

[B.H.F.C]

He is a big miss in terms of his work rate snd getting stuck in which is what we need via Falkirk
Is Rocky awAy with Israel

Two big players to have missing for an important game Laidlaw is useful deputy in goal but S J M on form is a blow
Dylan may not be risked for whole game


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We are forever 'not risking Dylan' and it doesn't do him any favours. He was fit enough to come on last week so it's time to put him in and tell him to get on with it.

[Heisenberg]

What a waste of time. Strachan can get himself to ****.

[Carheenlea]

Find this absolutely astonishing that we are being denied someone who would be first name on the team sheet for reasons other than injury or suspension for one of our biggest games of the season.

[Argylehibby]

Find this absolutely astonishing that we are being denied someone who would be first name on the team sheet for reasons other than injury or suspension for one of our biggest games of the season.

To wam a bench at Hampden if he even gets that far.

[Since90+2]

The midfield will be Brown , Darren Fletcher and Armstrong so McGinn wont start and I would be surprised if he gets on.

Guaranteed if this was Sevco in our position last season the media would be kicking up a storm and no doubt the player would be released. Strachan can GTF as far as I am concerned now , Hibs fan my arse.

[lucky]

Farce that our game is going ahead, we are being punished for having international players. As for the future value SJM not one really knows what English clubs are willing to pay but it will be less than JC and I think both will move on in the summer

[killie-hibby]

The midfield will be Brown , Darren Fletcher and Armstrong so McGinn wont start and I would be surprised if he gets on.

Guaranteed if this was Sevco in our position last season the media would be kicking up a storm and no doubt the player would be released. Strachan can GTF as far as I am concerned now , Hibs fan my arse.


The SPFL should have postponed our game with Falkirk when the pool was announced. That would have been a sensible outcome,but far too logical for the idiotic clowns in charge of the SPFL.Despite players from the Championship being selected for previous international pools,once again only the "big clubs" matter.
Ten clubs ,not playing tomorrow contribute zero amount of players to this current pool.
Sporting integrity my a--e.

[Bristolhibby]

Should have the international breaks like the Premiership.

We are kidding ourselves in thinking that there is a jot in difference in quality between us, Hearts, ICT or St. Johnstone. If the Premier shuts down, so too should the Championship.

Now as bad as it is, we need to craic on and beat Falkirk cause it ain't changing by Saturday.

J

[Real Emerald]

Falkirk getting unfair advantage, cheating in my book! Can Peter Houston confirm they are getting an unfair advantage please?

It's shocking we're being disadvantaged like this but let's wipe the floor with them anyway.

[Bristolhibby]

Falkirk getting unfair advantage, cheating in my book! Can Peter Houston confirm they are getting an unfair advantage please?

It's shocking we're being disadvantaged like this but let's wipe the floor with them anyway.

The silence from Houston will be deafening. And here was me thinking he'd ask for the game to be postponed in the interests of fairness.

J

[Real Emerald]

The silence from Houston will be deafening. And here was me thinking he'd ask for the game to be postponed in the interests of fairness.

J

I'm sure that's what he'll do! 😂

I can't wait for the game TBH, right up for this one.

[Billy Whizz]

We'll miss John, but we've got Fyvie back from suspension, and hopefully a fit McGeough, thought not sure if Dylan should play on the Tattie field

[Ronniekirk]

We'll miss John, but we've got Fyvie back from suspension, and hopefully a fit McGeough, thought not sure if Dylan should play on the Tattie field

Just cant see him starting on that surface too big a risk given his injury issues which is a pity as a fit on form dylan is the one player you would want to come back in at this important point of season against them to enhance ourchances of winning



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[Onceinawhile]

Scott Martin can also come in and play his part.

Certainly did at brockville.

[B.H.F.C]

We'll miss John, but we've got Fyvie back from suspension, and hopefully a fit McGeough, thought not sure if Dylan should play on the Tattie field

When will McGeough ever play though?

There is always some reason not to play him. If he can't play on a poor pitch then he shouldn't be playing in Scotland because the pitches are ruined for half the year. A central midfield pairing of Bartley and Fyvie doesn't sound very exciting. With no McGinn we need Dylan this weekend. We need someone to play a forward pass in there.

[hibbysam]

When will McGeough ever play though?

There is always some reason not to play him. If he can't play on a poor pitch then he shouldn't be playing in Scotland because the pitches are ruined for half the year. A central midfield pairing of Bartley and Fyvie doesn't sound very exciting. With no McGinn we need Dylan this weekend. We need someone to play a forward pass in there.

Not sure if you seen the pitch last night, but far better players than Dylan couldn't get the ball down, control, dribble, and pass forwards as it's a total mudbath.

[scoopyboy]

We'll miss John, but we've got Fyvie back from suspension, and hopefully a fit McGeough, thought not sure if Dylan should play on the Tattie field

I would play McGeouch from the start, he can't be wrapped in cotton wool forever.

If he breaks down we take him off.

Worse would be putting him on as a sub and then having to take him back off again.

Unless in an emergency I don't think Fyvie and Bartley should be in the same midfield, especially at Easter Road.

[Billy Whizz]

I would play McGeouch from the start, he can't be wrapped in cotton wool forever.

If he breaks down we take him off.

Worse would be putting him on as a sub and then having to take him back off again.

Unless in an emergency I don't think Fyvie and Bartley should be in the same midfield, especially at Easter Road.

I'd start him too, just asking the question

[green day]

I would play McGeouch from the start, he can't be wrapped in cotton wool forever.

If he breaks down we take him off.

Worse would be putting him on as a sub and then having to take him back off again.

Unless in an emergency I don't think Fyvie and Bartley should be in the same midfield, especially at Easter Road.

Ditto, Martin on the bench in case he breaks down.

[scoopyboy]

I'd start him too, just asking the question

And a good question it was too.

I'm hoping the pitch will be a bit better on Saturday, temperatures due to climb and the sun out will help.

[ancient hibee]

Just cant see him starting on that surface too big a risk given his injury issues which is a pity as a fit on form dylan is the one player you would want to come back in at this important point of season against them to enhance ourchances of winning



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There's absolutely no risk in my opinion.As he hardly ever plays anyway if he breaks down it won't matter as long as one sub is kept free to take his place.
McGinn has definitely lost his edge.He's beginning to remind me of Willie Wallace when he was at Hearts.He was scoring for fun when he went off the boil,still put in 90 minutes but he wasn't quite there.Next thing he was off to Celtic when normal service was resumed.Became clear later that Jock Stein had advised him to take it easy and not get injured as he would be moving soon.

[Smartie]

I've not seen John McGinn lose his edge or develop a fear of getting injured. He's had the odd game where he hasn't played as well as he can but this is nonsense.

I take it this new poor attitude has emerged since he stretched every part of his body to get a toe on the ball ahead of a defender in the Ayr United game, leading to him taking a waist high tackle?

I can't really be bothered about the national team right now but I respect the system and Scotland should always get priority. We're a Championship club and we should be grateful that we've got players of enough quality to be in and around the Scotland squad again.

It's part and parcel of being in this bloody league and if we miss out, tough s***.

[ancient hibee]

I didn't say anything about him being afraid of getting injured but he is nowhere near the player he was last season and has certainly not progressed.

[Speedy]

The SPFL should have postponed our game with Falkirk when the pool was announced. That would have been a sensible outcome,but far too logical for the idiotic clowns in charge of the SPFL.Despite players from the Championship being selected for previous international pools,once again only the "big clubs" matter.
Ten clubs ,not playing tomorrow contribute zero amount of players to this current pool.
Sporting integrity my a--e.

No chance of that when they've let teams play without a keeper. Complete joke.

That said, this is our chance to prove we are a premier league side. We shoupd be winning without McGinn & Rocky.

[Bishop Hibee]

Huge loss. I'd play McGeoch. If he gets injured then bring on Fyvie or Martin.

[IWasThere2016]

Annoying - particularly as there is the heehaw cubed chance of Scotland qualifying!

[rupert.bollocks]

I've not seen John McGinn lose his edge or develop a fear of getting injured. He's had the odd game where he hasn't played as well as he can but this is nonsense.

I take it this new poor attitude has emerged since he stretched every part of his body to get a toe on the ball ahead of a defender in the Ayr United game, leading to him taking a waist high tackle?

I can't really be bothered about the national team right now but I respect the system and Scotland should always get priority. We're a Championship club and we should be grateful that we've got players of enough quality to be in and around the Scotland squad again.

It's part and parcel of being in this bloody league and if we miss out, tough s***.

Pretty much this.

[Ken]

I think we would accept about £3.5m if an offer came in this summer


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[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I think we would accept about £3.5m if an offer came in this summer


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And the phrase " current Scottish International Midfielder" does not harm to the valuation either.

[JimBHibees]

I've not seen John McGinn lose his edge or develop a fear of getting injured. He's had the odd game where he hasn't played as well as he can but this is nonsense.

I take it this new poor attitude has emerged since he stretched every part of his body to get a toe on the ball ahead of a defender in the Ayr United game, leading to him taking a waist high tackle?

I can't really be bothered about the national team right now but I respect the system and Scotland should always get priority. We're a Championship club and we should be grateful that we've got players of enough quality to be in and around the Scotland squad again.

It's part and parcel of being in this bloody league and if we miss out, tough s***.

Couldn't agree more think he has been very good this season.

[majorhibs]

I didn't say anything about him being afraid of getting injured but he is nowhere near the player he was last season and has certainly not progressed.

Were ye watchin Sat. 1 player for all early part of game had potential to do something, all other alleged creative players (+Bartley) naewhere, - seriously, saturday wouldve taxed ANY good players when (we aw ken the names) there is ONE threat & the oppo are out to stop him. Sat. wasn't Jonn Mcgijnns failings, it was the absolute lack of anything close to support from the rest who basically hid, IMO.

[neil7908]

And the phrase " current Scottish International Midfielder" does not harm to the valuation either.

I'm honestly not sure it helps either given the state of the Scottish national team.

Put it this way, I don't think folk like Snodgrass are getting moves for good money due to anything at international level, it's because they've performed domestically. That's my worry with McGinn. There's so much cash down south I suspect we'll get a decent amount when he goes but equally he's playing in the Scottish second tier - that matters far more to his value than a handful of substitute appearances for a terrible Scotland side.

[mjhibby]

If he plays a full season in the sphell and shines them I'm sure his value will increase. There is no reason to suggest hell leave this summer unless hibs get a bid they can't refuse. I'm sure will will get a summer of endless speculation about sjm and Jason. It's always like this when you have very good young players. McGinn to leipzig that sounds believable. You heard it here first.

[Greenworld]

Just cant see him starting on that surface too big a risk given his injury issues which is a pity as a fit on form dylan is the one player you would want to come back in at this important point of season against them to enhance ourchances of winning



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Here's the thing we are starting to run out of games the most important ones are the next two.
Play him in these win them and he can have the rest of the season off

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[oneone73]

Here's the thing we are starting to run out of games the most important ones are the next two.
Play him in these win them and he can have the rest of the season off

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I want him back for the Cup Final.

[greenginger]

Here's a puzzler that someone came up with at the pub.

If McGinn had a couple more cautions and was due to serve a one match suspension tomorrow but could not play because he was in the Scotland squad, would tomorrow still be his one match league suspension ?

Or, would the suspension have carried forward to Wednesday night's game.

[JimBHibees]

Here's a puzzler that someone came up with at the pub.

If McGinn had a couple more cautions and was due to serve a one match suspension tomorrow but could not play because he was in the Scotland squad, would tomorrow still be his one match league suspension ?

Or, would the suspension have carried forward to Wednesday night's game.

Tomorrow would be his suspension.

[ancient hibee]

Doubt it.I see Mark McGhee on the bench yet he's not supposed to be.

[Libby Hibby]

Martin has started the last 2 Falkirk games that we have won.

[where'stheslope]

I think we would accept about £3.5m if an offer came in this summer


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Not trying to be funny, but Celtic paid £4.5 Million for Scott Sinclair who was a proven player in a top League.

Yet you honestly think we will get £3.5 million for a Scottish Championship player????

I hope your right, but in the real world I think your about 3 X over his real asking price!

I know that there was supposed to be a bid in for Jason Cummings of £1.7 million, but for some extraordinary reason it was turned down?

If any of them do move on, I think that there is more chance of getting better money selling to the Ugly Sisters than down south!!!

[JimBHibees]

Not trying to be funny, but Celtic paid £4.5 Million for Scott Sinclair who was a proven player in a top League.

Yet you honestly think we will get £3.5 million for a Scottish Championship player????

I hope your right, but in the real world I think your about 3 X over his real asking price!

I know that there was supposed to be a bid in for Jason Cummings of £1.7 million, but for some extraordinary reason it was turned down?

If any of them do move on, I think that there is more chance of getting better money selling to the Ugly Sisters than down south!!!

Scott Sinclair in no way was proven at top level he could barely get a game for a very poor Villa side.

[Tyler Durden]

Scott Sinclair in no way was proven at top level he could barely get a game for a very poor Villa side.

He also had a season at Swansea where he scored about a dozen goals and then signed for the league champions. Also made several appearances for Chelsea. He was definitely on a downward spiral before Celtic but he was a PL player

I think we'll struggle to get more than £2m for SJM. Depending on this apparent sell on clause, that would be pretty fair price IMO

[Tyler Durden]

Not trying to be funny, but Celtic paid £4.5 Million for Scott Sinclair who was a proven player in a top League.

Yet you honestly think we will get £3.5 million for a Scottish Championship player????

I hope your right, but in the real world I think your about 3 X over his real asking price!

I know that there was supposed to be a bid in for Jason Cummings of £1.7 million, but for some extraordinary reason it was turned down?

If any of them do move on, I think that there is more chance of getting better money selling to the Ugly Sisters than down south!!!

The extraordinary reason it was turned down is because he is worth more than that, as he has proved this season

[Just Jimmy]

He also had a season at Swansea where he scored about a dozen goals and then signed for the league champions. Also made several appearances for Chelsea. He was definitely on a downward spiral before Celtic but he was a PL player

I think we'll struggle to get more than £2m for SJM. Depending on this apparent sell on clause, that would be pretty fair price IMO
Fair price for a league cup, scottish cup (neither with the old firm) winning, full international whilst in the second tier? With 2 years on his contract and no apparent desire to move on yet?

Glad you're not running the club.

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[Ronniekirk]

Not trying to be funny, but Celtic paid £4.5 Million for Scott Sinclair who was a proven player in a top League.

Yet you honestly think we will get £3.5 million for a Scottish Championship player????

I hope your right, but in the real world I think your about 3 X over his real asking price!

I know that there was supposed to be a bid in for Jason Cummings of £1.7 million, but for some extraordinary reason it was turned down?

If any of them do move on, I think that there is more chance of getting better money selling to the Ugly Sisters than down south!!!

If you are right about clubs trying to get our players on the cheap because we are a Championship Club .Then the answer is simple ,get promoted and wait till they are playing well in the top flight .But for me both have proved in Cup games they can do this
They are our 2 biggest saleable assets, and am confident the Club will hold out for what we see as a realistic valuation .Unless of course the Players and their Agents start to rock the boat
But i think both players recognise what Hibs have done for them and their careers and don't anticipate the latter happening


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[MWHIBBIES]

If he plays a full season in the sphell and shines them I'm sure his value will increase. There is no reason to suggest hell leave this summer unless hibs get a bid they can't refuse. I'm sure will will get a summer of endless speculation about sjm and Jason. It's always like this when you have very good young players. McGinn to leipzig that sounds believable. You heard it here first.It wont because he'll only have 12 months on his contract after it.

[Hibs90]

Hoping for a curveball today and he is named in the starting 11

[JimBHibees]

He also had a season at Swansea where he scored about a dozen goals and then signed for the league champions. Also made several appearances for Chelsea. He was definitely on a downward spiral before Celtic but he was a PL player

I think we'll struggle to get more than £2m for SJM. Depending on this apparent sell on clause, that would be pretty fair price IMO

Will get way more than 2m.

[Wilson]

Will get way more than 2m.

He is worth more than that to us. We will struggle to replace him with similar quality. We should hold out for as much as possible.

[Bishop Hibee]

I'm convinced McGinn will go in the summer. There will be a number of clubs with big budgets in for him and that will help us get a good deal.

[pacorosssco]

I'm convinced McGinn will go in the summer. There will be a number of clubs with big budgets in for him and that will help us get a good deal.

Yes sadly I also think the same. Hes also ready to play at a higher level and time to play v better players week in week out

[where'stheslope]

If you are right about clubs trying to get our players on the cheap because we are a Championship Club .Then the answer is simple ,get promoted and wait till they are playing well in the top flight .But for me both have proved in Cup games they can do this
They are our 2 biggest saleable assets, and am confident the Club will hold out for what we see as a realistic valuation .Unless of course the Players and their Agents start to rock the boat
But i think both players recognise what Hibs have done for them and their careers and don't anticipate the latter happening


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When we get promoted, we should be adding to the team not selling it off?

You're other point on recognising what the club has done for them, is fair comment, but i'm afraid money talks, it will be up to Hibernian to make them an offer they can't refuse.

That way on the wage to transfer, the money will then definitely go up!