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Carheenlea
23-02-2017, 10:59 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04tr43t

A most enjoyable listen to the post match broadcast on BBC Sportsound. Alan Preston is a bit of a pantomime villain on here, but I thought he was pretty pragmatic amid his obvious hurt. Good interviews from Holt and Lennon too. Good times.

ancient hibee
23-02-2017, 11:09 AM
Much laughter when Preston said "we can't beat them" meaning derby matches for drama and excitement -then realised what he'd said!

Alan62
23-02-2017, 11:42 AM
Cathro's interview is bizarre. His continual use of the word 'we' to deflect the responsibility from himself is amusing. His point blank refusal to accept that he got it wrong tactically was also telling. It will be interesting to see how the Cathro experiment goes for Hearts but the early signs are that it will be a disaster. Pleasing.

calumhibee1
23-02-2017, 11:44 AM
Cathro's interview is bizarre. His continual use of the word 'we' to deflect the responsibility from himself is amusing. His point blank refusal to accept that he got it wrong tactically was also telling. It will be interesting to see how the Cathro experiment goes for Hearts but the early signs are that it will be a disaster. Pleasing.

He's so stubborn that he will only be a failure. He thinks he has it all worked out and is sticking to his ideology through thick and thin. They'll get worked out and any half decent side will beat them at a canter. A bit like what happens with Arsenal when they come up against decent sides.

brog
23-02-2017, 11:51 AM
On 5 live last night they were discussing Cathro & Phil Neville was strongly defending him. He was actually getting quite animated pointing out his coaching experience etc & TBF I mostly agreed with him. However he then ruined it by saying, so, I don't see why Ian Cathro shouldn't get the chance to manage a Scottish Premiership club like Hearts of em em MidAlbion!! Classic! That's how f****** famous they are!!

iwasthere1972
23-02-2017, 11:53 AM
That was thoroughly enjoyable. I don't normally listen to podcasts but I'm now converted.

iwasthere1972
23-02-2017, 11:54 AM
On 5 live last night they were discussing Cathro & Phil Neville was strongly defending him. He was actually getting quite animated pointing out his coaching experience etc & TBF I mostly agreed with him. However he then ruined it by saying, so, I don't see why Ian Cathro shouldn't get the chance to manage a Scottish Premiership club like Hearts of em em MidAlbion!! Classic! That's how f****** famous they are!!

Heart of Midtable. Mediocrity should be their new motto going forward.

bernz
23-02-2017, 11:57 AM
Holt's interview was spot on. Was very impressed

Cathro on the other hand...

Monktonhall 7
23-02-2017, 12:05 PM
That's an excellent listen. Great interviews by Lennon and Holt, and some very good positive comments from the panel about us which is unusual. Even Laptop boys interview made sense for once.

Callyballybe
23-02-2017, 12:07 PM
Much laughter when Preston said "we can't beat them" meaning derby matches for drama and excitement -then realised what he'd said!

Aye, burst out laughing on the way home when he said that. Was a belter.

Jim44
23-02-2017, 12:10 PM
A good listen. I thought Craig Paterson was way off the mark when he said Hearts came off second best .................. they weren't as good as that.:wink:

snooky
23-02-2017, 12:47 PM
At 21.15, does Richard Gordon really say "Hibs play Dunfermline on Saturday. It's a FUNNY fifteen kick off"? :dunno:

monktonharp
23-02-2017, 12:51 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04tr43t

A most enjoyable listen to the post match broadcast on BBC Sportsound. Alan Preston is a bit of a pantomime villain on here, but I thought he was pretty pragmatic amid his obvious hurt. Good interviews from Holt and Lennon too. Good times.listened to the whole of it. excellent and agree about the view of Preston.he did emphasise the pressure is now on Cathro . cant see him lasting the season to be honest

Supermac
23-02-2017, 12:53 PM
Really enjoyed listening to that from the very start with Richard Gordon full of praise for Hibs and even Preston conceding we were by far the better side.

monktonharp
23-02-2017, 12:56 PM
On 5 live last night they were discussing Cathro & Phil Neville was strongly defending him. He was actually getting quite animated pointing out his coaching experience etc & TBF I mostly agreed with him. However he then ruined it by saying, so, I don't see why Ian Cathro shouldn't get the chance to manage a Scottish Premiership club like Hearts of em em MidAlbion!! Classic! That's how f****** famous they are!!:faf:
did not see it, but those comments are very very funny. how come he cant even pronounce the famous ones' name :faf:

Jim44
23-02-2017, 12:59 PM
Really enjoyed listening to that from the very start with Richard Gordon full of praise for Hibs and even Preston conceding we were by far the better side.

Let's face it, they had nowhere to hide and would have had no programme if they tried to look for other things to say.

snooky
23-02-2017, 02:29 PM
Really enjoyed listening to that from the very start with Richard Gordon full of praise for Hibs and even Preston conceding we were by far the better side.

The small part I've listened to so far, Gordon seemed to be praising us through clenched teeth and everything he said seemed to have an underlying tone of negativity to it.
Maybe it's just me but, for some unknown reason, I always get a sense that he loathes the Hibs.

Is It On....
23-02-2017, 02:46 PM
Cathro's interview is bizarre. His continual use of the word 'we' to deflect the responsibility from himself is amusing. His point blank refusal to accept that he got it wrong tactically was also telling. It will be interesting to see how the Cathro experiment goes for Hearts but the early signs are that it will be a disaster. Pleasing.

Cathro was dreadfully dull, so dull you can't even really dislike him. And what is it with Preston and the 3 1/2 year contract to to Martin.I hope he is as bad as Preston thinks 🙂

SuperAllyMcleod
23-02-2017, 02:59 PM
The small part I've listened to so far, Gordon seemed to be praising us through clenched teeth and everything he said seemed to have an underlying tone of negativity to it.
Maybe it's just me but, for some unknown reason, I always get a sense that he loathes the Hibs.

It was just you - Richard Gordon is a quality presenter and is paid to try and see both sides. Last night he was very positive towards Hibs and I certainly got the impression that it was genuine.

jodjam
23-02-2017, 03:04 PM
On 5 live last night they were discussing Cathro & Phil Neville was strongly defending him. He was actually getting quite animated pointing out his coaching experience etc & TBF I mostly agreed with him. However he then ruined it by saying, so, I don't see why Ian Cathro shouldn't get the chance to manage a Scottish Premiership club like Hearts of em em MidAlbion!! Classic! That's how f****** famous they are!!

Was Grant Brebner not his best man. If I'm right I'm sure he knows exactly what they are called and might be having a laugh at their expense

northstandhibby
23-02-2017, 03:08 PM
It was just you - Richard Gordon is a quality presenter and is paid to try and see both sides. Last night he was very positive towards Hibs and I certainly got the impression that it was genuine.

I like RG most of the time. Sometimes his voice is dripping with sarcasm towards Yam Preston and their 'big club' mentality.

glory glory

jgl07
23-02-2017, 03:11 PM
Cathro's interview is bizarre. His continual use of the word 'we' to deflect the responsibility from himself is amusing. His point blank refusal to accept that he got it wrong tactically was also telling. It will be interesting to see how the Cathro experiment goes for Hearts but the early signs are that it will be a disaster. Pleasing.
He used 'we' because Harry Potter is taking the real decisions and Cathro is there to take the blame.

Craig_in_Prague
23-02-2017, 03:39 PM
listening to the BBC podcast; Did we really spank them just because of 'effort' ?? Really??

HFCdeb
23-02-2017, 04:04 PM
listening to the BBC podcast; Did we really spank them just because of 'effort' ?? Really??

Struck me as well. Next year let's spank them like that 4 times just to reinforce our message.
Great interviews from Lennon and Holt. Hope both stay.

Baader
23-02-2017, 04:52 PM
Listening live, Hob nob Biscuit heid was screaming "it's a red card, it's a red card" after the 'foul' by McGregor for their penalty. It was out of desperate hope but I thought someone had been sent off. You could hear the dejection in his voice after the commentator intervened reporting the ref had actually shown a yellow. The man is a clown and should be nowhere near a commentary box.

BurghHibby
23-02-2017, 05:22 PM
Got this sent to me earlier, not on pusbook so not sure if it'll work OK

https://m.facebook.com/gordon.mcleod.167189/posts/768622806626539

SirDavidsNapper
23-02-2017, 06:34 PM
Hearts were out the dressing room 5mins early for start of second half because they were late in? Aye ok then Cathro.

lapsedhibee
23-02-2017, 07:09 PM
Hearts were out the dressing room 5mins early for start of second half because they were late in? Aye ok then Cathro.

No, he was saying they seemed to be very early because "the other guys" were so late coming out. Couldn't bring himself to mention Hibs. Stopped short of calling us Lochenders though.

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23-02-2017, 07:20 PM
No, he was saying they seemed to be very early because "the other guys" were so late coming out. Couldn't bring himself to mention Hibs. Stopped short of calling us Lochenders though.


It's perfectly possible that he doesn't actually know our name.

His boss Levein probably refers to Hibs as "that load of crap from Leith" ...

And even Catheter knows he can't call us that after a dismantling job like last night's.

Hibbyradge
23-02-2017, 10:28 PM
Cathro's interview is bizarre. His continual use of the word 'we' to deflect the responsibility from himself is amusing. His point blank refusal to accept that he got it wrong tactically was also telling.

Can you give a list of all the managers who blame themselves when their team loses?

Pretty Boy
23-02-2017, 10:34 PM
I said it on another thread but it's an absolute NAP that Cathro will be punted/mutually consented by Christmas. He'll then appear in a Sunday paper giving an interview where he will accuse a 'heirarchy' of 'fearing his methods' and talk of Scottish football 'being scared of him'. He'll finish by saying he'll be 'proven right in the long term' and tell how he was 'misunderstood by those who don't accept change'.

He's that type, you can see it already. No personal responsibility taken, no acknowledgememt he got it wrong twice and no hint he is aware his tenure has been a disaster (from a Hearts point of view) so far.

Joe6-2
23-02-2017, 10:40 PM
Hertz of Midalbion, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Alan62
24-02-2017, 12:11 AM
Can you give a list of all the managers who blame themselves when their team loses?

While it's relatively unusual, you do sometimes hear a manager saying he got it wrong. I'm not suggesting for a second that young Cathro is going to stand in front of the mic and 'fess up to having picked the wrong team (cf. half time substitutions), got the tactics wrong over two matches or made a major error by sending his troops out five minutes early before the restart.

My point is that he shuts the interviewer down immediately when it was suggested he may have got the tactics wrong. There is no doubt in his mind that he is right. Some will see that as a good thing in a manager. I am not sure that absolute belief in himself will serve him well as he has a lot to learn about being the manager of a professional football team. Time will tell though. I'll be watching with interest.

wookie70
24-02-2017, 12:32 AM
Can you give a list of all the managers who blame themselves when their team loses? Neil Lennon did say he would look at his own performance after the Raith draw, saying that it was after tearing a strip off practically the whole team. You do rarely get a manager taking the heat but only when they are in a position of power and they can afford too. Not where Cathro certainly is at present

Baader
24-02-2017, 12:54 AM
I said it on another thread but it's an absolute NAP that Cathro will be punted/mutually consented by Christmas. He'll then appear in a Sunday paper giving an interview where he will accuse a 'heirarchy' of 'fearing his methods' and talk of Scottish football 'being scared of him'. He'll finish by saying he'll be 'proven right in the long term' and tell how he was 'misunderstood by those who don't accept change'.

He's that type, you can see it already. No personal responsibility taken, no acknowledgememt he got it wrong twice and no hint he is aware his tenure has been a disaster (from a Hearts point of view) so far.

Sadly, there is no danger he will be in that post next Christmas. Be lucky to see the end of the season pending Budgies finances of course...

California-Hibs
24-02-2017, 01:07 AM
It's a decent show, was a good listen after the Dundee United match also when someone put the podcast up then aswel.

Enjoyed it, cheers!

snooky
24-02-2017, 01:17 AM
It was just you - Richard Gordon is a quality presenter and is paid to try and see both sides. Last night he was very positive towards Hibs and I certainly got the impression that it was genuine.

I did listen to it all later and I agree he was pretty balanced. It must have been just the selected snippet I listened to first where he sounded a bit so-so.

Hibrandenburg
24-02-2017, 10:14 AM
Cathro nearly put me to sleep listening to that. The guy's a walking Valium tablet.

ian cruise
24-02-2017, 10:29 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04tr43t

A most enjoyable listen to the post match broadcast on BBC Sportsound. Alan Preston is a bit of a pantomime villain on here, but I thought he was pretty pragmatic amid his obvious hurt. Good interviews from Holt and Lennon too. Good times.

Not read the full thread yet so just going to reply to this one, not ignoring any later points made.

I heard Preston on the radio on way in to the game and when driving home and thought, for all the abuse he takes, he came across pretty well. Was playing up the fact he's a hearts supporter who wanted a hearts win but gave Hibs credit and was full of praise for Neil Lennon, sticking up for him quite vehemently.

Holt interview was class, I'm been a sceptic but both his performance (not just the goal) and interview convinced me of the value he's bringing to the team. I've no doubt he's adding an additional level of professionalism and winning spirit that you only get by playing at the higher levels.

heretoday
24-02-2017, 10:32 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04tr43t

A most enjoyable listen to the post match broadcast on BBC Sportsound. Alan Preston is a bit of a pantomime villain on here, but I thought he was pretty pragmatic amid his obvious hurt. Good interviews from Holt and Lennon too. Good times.

I'm a bit of a fan of Preston's. He's a great big Jambo but so what? He was decent enough to concede various things to us although it was amusing to hear the obvious pain it caused him!

We mustn't forget this is just a game.

CapitalGreen
24-02-2017, 11:36 AM
Can you give a list of all the managers who blame themselves when their team loses?

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp blames himself for side's FA Cup exit after defeat to Wolves at Anfield (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/28/liverpool-manager-jurgen-klopp-blames-sides-fa-cup-exit-defeat/)
Hughes blames himself for defeat (http://www.eurosport.com/football/elliott-made-of-right-stuff_sto4417970/story.shtml)
Brown blames himself for defeat (http://www.eurosport.com/football/brown-blames-himself-for-defeat_sto3669807/story.shtml)
Mourinho blames himself for Chelsea defeat (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2015/08/29/14867162/mourinho-blames-himself-for-chelsea-defeat)
Sir Alex Ferguson takes blame after Man Utd defeat by Ajax (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17150134)
Zinedine Zidane blames himself for Real Madrid C.F.’s back-to-back defeats (http://www.hindustantimes.com/football/zinedine-zidane-blames-himself-for-real-madrid-c-f-s-back-to-back-defeats/story-HCY1ma7IwHyx04c9m6hLNM.html)
Pep Guardiola blames himself for Bayern Munich's dismal defeat against Real Madrid (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2616400/Pep-Guardiola-blames-Bayern-Munichs-dismal-defeat-against-Real-Madrid.html)
Ranieri takes the blame for Foxes’ defeat (http://www.kwesesports.com/football/top-teams/leicester-city/ranieri-takes-the-blame-for-foxes-defeat/)
Celtic manager blames himself after SPL defeat at Easter Road (https://stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/celtic/207933-celtic-manager-blames-himself-after-spl-defeat-at-easter-road/)

JimboHibs
24-02-2017, 11:39 AM
I'm a bit of a fan of Preston's. He's a great big Jambo but so what? He was decent enough to concede various things to us although it was amusing to hear the obvious pain it caused him!

We mustn't forget this is just a game.

Preston is a complete rocket,the only reason he gave us any credit was because there wasn't anything to praise the Hearts for,there's been numerous threads on here about him & his utter disgust for us.Preston & the Hearts are well suited for each other.

lapsedhibee
24-02-2017, 04:36 PM
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp blames himself for side's FA Cup exit after defeat to Wolves at Anfield (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/28/liverpool-manager-jurgen-klopp-blames-sides-fa-cup-exit-defeat/)
Hughes blames himself for defeat (http://www.eurosport.com/football/elliott-made-of-right-stuff_sto4417970/story.shtml)
Brown blames himself for defeat (http://www.eurosport.com/football/brown-blames-himself-for-defeat_sto3669807/story.shtml)
Mourinho blames himself for Chelsea defeat (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2015/08/29/14867162/mourinho-blames-himself-for-chelsea-defeat)
Sir Alex Ferguson takes blame after Man Utd defeat by Ajax (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17150134)
Zinedine Zidane blames himself for Real Madrid C.F.’s back-to-back defeats (http://www.hindustantimes.com/football/zinedine-zidane-blames-himself-for-real-madrid-c-f-s-back-to-back-defeats/story-HCY1ma7IwHyx04c9m6hLNM.html)
Pep Guardiola blames himself for Bayern Munich's dismal defeat against Real Madrid (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2616400/Pep-Guardiola-blames-Bayern-Munichs-dismal-defeat-against-Real-Madrid.html)
Ranieri takes the blame for Foxes’ defeat (http://www.kwesesports.com/football/top-teams/leicester-city/ranieri-takes-the-blame-for-foxes-defeat/)
Celtic manager blames himself after SPL defeat at Easter Road (https://stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/celtic/207933-celtic-manager-blames-himself-after-spl-defeat-at-easter-road/)

Yes yes, but any involving clubs of the stature of The Famous?

ancient hibee
24-02-2017, 04:42 PM
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp blames himself for side's FA Cup exit after defeat to Wolves at Anfield (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/28/liverpool-manager-jurgen-klopp-blames-sides-fa-cup-exit-defeat/)
Hughes blames himself for defeat (http://www.eurosport.com/football/elliott-made-of-right-stuff_sto4417970/story.shtml)
Brown blames himself for defeat (http://www.eurosport.com/football/brown-blames-himself-for-defeat_sto3669807/story.shtml)
Mourinho blames himself for Chelsea defeat (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2015/08/29/14867162/mourinho-blames-himself-for-chelsea-defeat)
Sir Alex Ferguson takes blame after Man Utd defeat by Ajax (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17150134)
Zinedine Zidane blames himself for Real Madrid C.F.’s back-to-back defeats (http://www.hindustantimes.com/football/zinedine-zidane-blames-himself-for-real-madrid-c-f-s-back-to-back-defeats/story-HCY1ma7IwHyx04c9m6hLNM.html)
Pep Guardiola blames himself for Bayern Munich's dismal defeat against Real Madrid (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2616400/Pep-Guardiola-blames-Bayern-Munichs-dismal-defeat-against-Real-Madrid.html)
Ranieri takes the blame for Foxes’ defeat (http://www.kwesesports.com/football/top-teams/leicester-city/ranieri-takes-the-blame-for-foxes-defeat/)
Celtic manager blames himself after SPL defeat at Easter Road (https://stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/celtic/207933-celtic-manager-blames-himself-after-spl-defeat-at-easter-road/)

Yes but we all know that none of them mean it.

brog
24-02-2017, 04:43 PM
Not read the full thread yet so just going to reply to this one, not ignoring any later points made.

I heard Preston on the radio on way in to the game and when driving home and thought, for all the abuse he takes, he came across pretty well. Was playing up the fact he's a hearts supporter who wanted a hearts win but gave Hibs credit and was full of praise for Neil Lennon, sticking up for him quite vehemently.

Holt interview was class, I'm been a sceptic but both his performance (not just the goal) and interview convinced me of the value he's bringing to the team. I've no doubt he's adding an additional level of professionalism and winning spirit that you only get by playing at the higher levels.

Agreed 100% re Holt's interview. Articulate, intelligent & humorous, in fact the complete opposite of Cathro. You can definitely see he would be an asset both on & off the field.

Joe6-2
24-02-2017, 04:46 PM
Preston is a complete rocket,the only reason he gave us any credit was because there wasn't anything to praise the Hearts for,there's been numerous threads on here about him & his utter disgust for us.Preston & the Hearts are well suited for each other.

This!

Pete
24-02-2017, 04:49 PM
Agreed 100% re Holt's interview. Articulate, intelligent & humorous, in fact the complete opposite of Cathro. You can definitely see he would be an asset both on & off the field.

Sounds like he wants to be here next year as well.

Hopefully Lennon will stay with him and we can build something.