****transfer deadline day****

[Not In The Know]

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[tamig]

Not being happy clappy but theres no evidence the board didnt try to back the manager. Who knows what the demands were from others involved..Id have like a couple of signings but think we will be fine as we are.

Whos to say new signings would have improved us. They may have but no certainty.

Absolutely. I asked the same poster the same question on the Rougier thread where the evidence was that the manager had not been backed. Made up nonsense.

[Borderhibbie76]

I am not too concerned that we neither signed Stokes nor Commons as I believe we have enough in the squad to win the league and said so earlier, I am though concerned at our transfer business this season for two reasons:

1) It shows a complete lack of imagination, WTF are we paying our much vaunted recruitment team for?

2) I supported the under investment in the summer window grudgingly as I believed at the time that we may face a large fine for the post cup final issue, but to not invest now when that proved not to be the case and season ticket numbers and attendances have rocketed is worrying.

Its either complacent in the extreme or an indication that we overspent massively last year and that this years wage bill is completely over the top and that the windfall monies from the cup, increased season ticket monies and attendances are needed to keep the ship afloat.

Lennon is a clever guy who knows how the game is played, for him to openly state that we need bodies in and not to get any is another concern.

We will win this league, but if heaven forbid we don't there are going to be some hard questions asked and hard times ahead
Very good point when you combine Jan and last Summers windows the lack of signing activity is a concern...especially on back of winning the Cup and record ST holders not to mention HSL and shares. Why haven't we invested further or is money being held back for contract talks with the likes of Daz, Fyvie, Gray etc

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[Borderhibbie76]

Whilst I'm not panicking at the lack of signings and like most I do believe we have enough in the squad to win the championship...I think some on here are very naive or looking at our squad through green tinted specs. Come on guys any squad can be improved upon at anytime and we r hardly Brazil circa 1970....a couple of bad results between now and hopefully winning the league and there will be serious questions asked as to why we never strengthened in Jan when quotes from both Neil Lennon and LD indicated that we would indeed do just that...

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[Iain G]

Commons and Stokes were always ambitious at this level, and the fact that they have not went elsewhere indicates that they are perhaps more in the plans of the current club than we imagine.

Lennon only wanted players he could hang his hat on in this window. When you start moving to plan b and c, you lose that certainty, and he may have had more trust in his squad players than a lesser known quantity, who may not have even played this season.

Commons to negotiate a pay off for his remaining Celtic contract and join us on a free outside of the window? :greengrin

[Liberal Hibby]

Absolutely. I asked the same poster the same question on the Rougier thread where the evidence was that the manager had not been backed. Made up nonsense.

The evidence is surely the other way? If Lennon hadn't been backed to his satisfaction he would have walked. He's not the sort to be snubbed in that way.

[BoomtownHibees]

I don't get the "ran out of time" excuse when Ambrose goes to Blackburn late last night and it gets pushed through in time. How long did we need?

[Smartie]

I'm a wee bit disappointed we didn't get anyone else but I'm not overly concerned.

My main concern is that Lennon expressed a wish to see further arrivals and given that hasn't happened, we should really ask ourselves why.

We should have more than enough already to see us promoted - I saw United on Saturday and I thought they were poor - but for all we slag them for it, the derby in a few weeks has added another dimension to this season. The arrival of Stokes would really have given us an extra threat for that game. Instead it may boil down to the inconsistent, sometimes brilliant Boyle to tear there right-back to pieces.

I don't agree with signing players for the sake of it, which we've done in the past. We've also failed to get business done in the past which left us with a squad hopelessly short on quality and incapable of doing what might be expected of it, and I don't think that's where we are.

If we weren't going to be able to bring anyone in who was better than we already had, I'd have liked to have seen Porteous and Shaw's loans terminated. They could bulk up our squad, and given they've been doing as well as they have for the development side, I would have liked to have seen them getting the odd run before the end of the season.

[GloryGlory]

Commons to negotiate a pay off for his remaining Celtic contract and join us on a free outside of the window? :greengrin

If he didn't get his contract cancelled yesterday, it's too late whatever happens now.

I get the feeling that Commons is waiting for something else - USA perhaps - and didn't see Hibs as his first choice.

[Baw187]

I've only skimmed this thread since it descended in to chaos as the window slammed shut, but it seems a few need to just cool their jets.

Yes Lennon said we could do with some extra bodies but as most are saying, not by bringing in any old pish.

And all the chat of the board not backing the manager.... how does anyone know they circumstance that led us to not getting out targets last night? By all accounts it was Celtic that wouldn't give Commons the pay off he is rightly looking for (they might yet do so), so how is that Hibs' or the board's fault?

How do we know that Blackburn weren't asking for stupid money for Stokes??

Nobody knows so jumping on the board's back when they may have been totally pushing the boat out and still failed is complete nonsense. Trying to get Stokes and Commons was always ambitious for a club our size and less quality players weren't going to add to our squad and would eat unnecessarily in to our wage bill.

[GonzoReturns]

I've only skimmed this thread since it descended in to chaos as the window slammed shut, but it seems a few need to just cool their jets.

Yes Lennon said we could do with some extra bodies but as most are saying, not by bringing in any old pish.

And all the chat of the board not backing the manager.... how does anyone know they circumstance that led us to not getting out targets last night? By all accounts it was Celtic that wouldn't give Commons the pay off he is rightly looking for (they might yet do so), so how is that Hibs' or the board's fault?

How do we know that Blackburn weren't asking for stupid money for Stokes??

Nobody knows so jumping on the board's back when they may have been totally pushing the boat out and still failed is complete nonsense. Trying to get Stokes and Commons was always ambitious for a club our size and less quality players weren't going to add to our squad and would eat unnecessarily in to our wage bill.

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[Leith's finest]

Quite sure LD would have supported NL during January, but if we could not get the players NL wanted due to the fact they did not want to come to ER I would now preffer to use the money saved to offer a new contract to DG, FF, DMc etc and start looking for players who want to come to us for next season after we get promoted

[madhatter]

I've only skimmed this thread since it descended in to chaos as the window slammed shut, but it seems a few need to just cool their jets.

Yes Lennon said we could do with some extra bodies but as most are saying, not by bringing in any old pish.

And all the chat of the board not backing the manager.... how does anyone know they circumstance that led us to not getting out targets last night? By all accounts it was Celtic that wouldn't give Commons the pay off he is rightly looking for (they might yet do so), so how is that Hibs' or the board's fault?

How do we know that Blackburn weren't asking for stupid money for Stokes??

Nobody knows so jumping on the board's back when they may have been totally pushing the boat out and still failed is complete nonsense. Trying to get Stokes and Commons was always ambitious for a club our size and less quality players weren't going to add to our squad and would eat unnecessarily in to our wage bill.

Tbf some people are critical of the club as it is clear we attempted to strengthen but our only clear attempts seem to have been phone Celtic to see if Commons can come back and/or phone Blackburn to see if Stokes can come back. It honestly doesn't say much for player recruitment, there may have and may still be different players in the pipeline but it's the variety and selection that I'm worried about. For years, we've frequently had 1-2 targets - normally local (Scotland) or ex-Celtic. No problem with this exactly but concerned that our market place seems to be extremely limited. That very same market (mass loans from England and Scottish journeyman) got us relegated. We have a good squad, one of the best I can remember for a long time but let's not kid ourselves there is always room for improvement...

[CropleyWasGod]

Tbf some people are critical of the club as it is clear we attempted to strengthen but our only clear attempts seem to have been phone Celtic to see if Commons can come back and/or phone Blackburn to see if Stokes can come back. It honestly doesn't say much for player recruitment, there may have and may still be different players in the pipeline but it's the variety and selection that I'm worried about. For years, we've frequently had 1-2 targets - normally local (Scotland) or ex-Celtic. No problem with this exactly but concerned that our market place seems to be extremely limited. That very same market (mass loans from England and Scottish journeyman) got us relegated. We have a good squad, one of the best I can remember for a long time but let's not kid ourselves there is always room for improvement...

Is this what actually happened?

[Phil MaGlass]

Must say I am pretty disappointed, but, on saying that it seems we were looking at quality players and couldnt get them, we should have had a back up plan if we couldnt get them, maybe we did? You just dont go round signing any old player(see hertz) I think our squad is strong enough to win the league and because we never got our main targets doesnt mean a player or two out of contract wont be joining. I would rather see quality at ER than a scattergun approach.

[calumhibee1]

Having had time to think about it, we should be ok in the league. Dundee Utd are on a poor run and as long as we don't go on another poor run like we did before Christmas, we'll win it.

Kris Commons has won us points and has been a big reason we have the lead we do and could have made the difference at Tynecastle next weekend,but it's now time for the likes of Shinnie and Keatings to chip in with a few more goals.

There's 14 games left. We would need to lose at least 3 with Dundee United winning them all just for them to catch us. They're in the middle of a brutal run, we're in the middle of a good run, chances are we'll be further ahead within a few weeks. There's not a chance in hell that we're not winning this league.

[Baw187]

Tbf some people are critical of the club as it is clear we attempted to strengthen but our only clear attempts seem to have been phone Celtic to see if Commons can come back and/or phone Blackburn to see if Stokes can come back. It honestly doesn't say much for player recruitment, there may have and may still be different players in the pipeline but it's the variety and selection that I'm worried about. For years, we've frequently had 1-2 targets - normally local (Scotland) or ex-Celtic. No problem with this exactly but concerned that our market place seems to be extremely limited. That very same market (mass loans from England and Scottish journeyman) got us relegated. We have a good squad, one of the best I can remember for a long time but let's not kid ourselves there is always room for improvement...

Of course there's room for improvement. Commons and / or Stokes would have improved us.

But January is notoriously difficult to get the type of players on that will improve and already decent squad usually cause clubs have you over a barrel.

I can't think of any realistic targets that we could have / should have gone for that would have improved us and brining in players to bolster the numbers is a gamble and can often disrupt a squad that is settled and playing well.

So from what I can gather, we've identified 2 targets we think would add to our current crop, we've failed for whatever reason (probably other clubs playing hardball as they do in Jan) so fair enough as far as in concerned.

Disappointed but not more so than I'd be if we brought in a few unknowns who ended up derailing our form and keeping us down. Something I don't think will happens with the squad we currently have.

[hibsbollah]

I don't care what Lennon said, I don't think we need anyone else. A bloated squad is hard to shift.

[SlickShoes]

Tbf some people are critical of the club as it is clear we attempted to strengthen but our only clear attempts seem to have been phone Celtic to see if Commons can come back and/or phone Blackburn to see if Stokes can come back. It honestly doesn't say much for player recruitment, there may have and may still be different players in the pipeline but it's the variety and selection that I'm worried about. For years, we've frequently had 1-2 targets - normally local (Scotland) or ex-Celtic. No problem with this exactly but concerned that our market place seems to be extremely limited. That very same market (mass loans from England and Scottish journeyman) got us relegated. We have a good squad, one of the best I can remember for a long time but let's not kid ourselves there is always room for improvement...

How did we sign Humphrey then? The winger that people have been saying we needed for about 8 years now, he was in on day 1 on of the window opening.

[Speedway]

Tbf some people are critical of the club as it is clear we attempted to strengthen but our only clear attempts seem to have been phone Celtic to see if Commons can come back and/or phone Blackburn to see if Stokes can come back. It honestly doesn't say much for player recruitment, there may have and may still be different players in the pipeline but it's the variety and selection that I'm worried about. For years, we've frequently had 1-2 targets - normally local (Scotland) or ex-Celtic. No problem with this exactly but concerned that our market place seems to be extremely limited. That very same market (mass loans from England and Scottish journeyman) got us relegated. We have a good squad, one of the best I can remember for a long time but let's not kid ourselves there is always room for improvement...

Do you happen to know where Mathie has been flying to over the past 3 months.

Suggesting that player recruitment is/was limited to two clubs based on what you've read/heard is to perhaps be unaware of what goes on in a football club each week and also to be unaware of the three sets of negotiations that take place in each transfer of a currently contracted player.

[snooky]

There's 14 games left. We would need to lose at least 3 with Dundee United winning them all just for them to catch us. They're in the middle of a brutal run, we're in the middle of a good run, chances are we'll be further ahead within a few weeks. There's not a chance in hell that we're not winning this league.

I hate to remind you CH, but that is similar to the kind of talk that was going on the season we got relegated. i.e. "there's not a chance in hell we'll get relegated".
While I agree we are currently sitting pretty, there could be a few banana skins between now and May.
Que Sera Sera.

[GloryGlory]

Do you happen to know where Mathie has been flying to over the past 3 months.

Suggesting that player recruitment is/was limited to two clubs based on what you've read/heard is to perhaps be unaware of what goes on in a football club each week and also to be unaware of the three sets of negotiations that take place in each transfer of a currently contracted player.

Yep. Who's to say what could have happened at the last minute to scupper a deal?

Maybe an agent decided he wanted a bigger cut up front. Maybe the selling club got cold feet and decided to renegotiate. Maybe the player changed his mind.

Could be a dozen reasons that a deal doesn't go through that Hibs have no control over.

[makaveli1875]

lennon tried to bring in quality players and it didnt come off , none of our rivals have strengthened so no need to panic . weve got super john mcginn and we will win the league :flag:

[givescotlandfreedom]

I know it was a long shot but I'm a bit gutted we didn't get Commons. I'm not sure we need Stokes as much.

[Colr]

I don't get the "ran out of time" excuse when Ambrose goes to Blackburn late last night and it gets pushed through in time. How long did we need?

Maybe they/he were dragging their feet. If they were really keen to get him over to us it would have been flagged up earlier.

We gave it a go to get some good players. It didn't come off but I'm glad were not just bringing players in for the sake of it.

We've got a good enough squad especially when we get injured players coming back in.

[Big L]

If at the start of the season we had been offered an eight point lead plus massive goal diff with 14 games to go, we would more than likely be happy with that. Don't forget, if not for the three sending off's, that never should have happened, you could add another six points to that total. The squad got us to this point, they are more than capable of finishing the job. Have faith!

[Kato]

Is this what actually happened?

C'mon!! That was a decent straw-man he was building there.

[Steve20]

If at the start of the season we had been offered an eight point lead plus massive goal diff with 14 games to go, we would more than likely be happy with that. Don't forget, if not for the three sending off's, that never should have happened, you could add another six points to that total. The squad got us to this point, they are more than capable of finishing the job. Have faith!

If you're adding six points for debatable sendings off, you'd need to take away four points for the games that Kris Commons won for us. His winning goals are a big reason we have that lead.

But yes, the squad we still have should have enough to go up with the eight point cushion we now have. I still worry we lack real creativity to win at Tynecastle as we do struggle creating chances away from home, even in this league.

[al1875]

maybe the most pleasing aspect of the window closing was that we didn't lose anyone:dunno:

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I heard that commons is in talks with celtic to end his contract but if he does sign he won't be able to play right away as hes carrying an injury.....no idea if its true but a guy at work was saying it this morning...we will just Have to wait and see i supose

[Andy74]

I heard that commons is in talks with celtic to end his contract but if he does sign he won't be able to play right away as hes carrying an injury.....no idea if its true but a guy at work was saying it this morning...we will just Have to wait and see i supose

Can't happen now unless he was released yesterday.

[snooky]

We are not exactly blowing the opposition away by winning 4-0 every week. We've scraped a few 1-0 results even though we were generally on top in those games.
Before I get confident, I need to see us winning with a bit more of a margin.
Every week we say we are going to win easily only to hear 'come on Hibs this is rubbish' on match days. Okay, we are top of this league but the reality is we damn well should be given the resources we have over the rest of the teams.
Our biggest threat is complacancy and also lack of taking scoring chances.

[jodjam]

The January window is horrible. The managers don't seem to like it much and in most cases it is a succession of loan deals being done. I'm happy we have kept our squad intact. Would have been nice to add to it but there are so many factors involved in a transfer or even a loan that any potential deal can collapse.

Take Chelsea. With their mega bucks and yet they still couldn't get a deal over the line for a new reserve keeper.

[Smartie]

maybe the most pleasing aspect of the window closing was that we didn't lose anyone:dunno:

It was - easy to lose sight of that too.

The month of January saw the arrival of Humphrey (we'd been crying out for a player like him), nobody leave and the return to fitness of McGeouch, Fyvie and McGinn.

It was a very good month for us, all things considered.

Another signing would have been the icing on the cake but we can't complain really.

[Big L]

If you're adding six points for debatable sendings off, you'd need to take away four points for the games that Kris Commons won for us. His winning goals are a big reason we have that lead.

But yes, the squad we still have should have enough to go up with the eight point cushion we now have. I still worry we lack real creativity to win at Tynecastle as we do struggle creating chances away from home, even in this league.

I would like to see McGeough in the playmaker role, he has all the attributes required to be a success in that position. Great football brain, always has space, see's a pass and never gives the ball away. Surely worth a try!

[northstandhibby]

maybe the most pleasing aspect of the window closing was that we didn't lose anyone:dunno:

Agree with this. Personally i'm growing tired of loan deals albeit I understand we probably wouldn't have won the cup without them and I'm not against them persay but we have some cracking players already and we didn't lose any of them. Let's win this league soon and we can begin to see some of the younger prospects of which we're hearing really good things said of them being eased in.

Glory Glory

[Ozyhibby]

I think without the Hearts game coming up everybody would have been quite relaxed. It's added a bit of pressure.


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[JimBHibees]

Can't happen now unless he was released yesterday.

Would we still be able to get him on an emergency loan?

[Andy74]

I think without the Hearts game coming up everybody would have been quite relaxed. It's added a bit of pressure.


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Don't know about that - we should be fine in the league but the uncertainty is that the tide turned when Commons created one then scored a free kick v Falkirk and he also got the winner at Dumbarton. That's given us the gap and hopefully without him we can keep that gap going. It would have been nice to have that type of quality available to turn some of these draws into wins.

[Lago]

:top marks
Don't know about that - we should be fine in the league but the uncertainty is that the tide turned when Commons created one then scored a free kick v Falkirk and he also got the winner at Dumbarton. That's given us the gap and hopefully without him we can keep that gap going. It would have been nice to have that type of quality available to turn some of these draws into wins.

[Jim44]

Can't happen now unless he was released yesterday.


Would finances have been the main reason for not signing some players? Maybe the Board have prevented Neil signing who he wanted? We will never know.

........ but some Muppet on KB knows. Apparently, someone 'deep in ER', has told him that Lennon is not getting on with Dempster and Petrie and he is on the verge of walking out.:faf::faf::faf:

[gegs70]

We should start a thread with any decent free agents..... football ones that is!

[ian cruise]

Would have liked to have seen Commons come back but I'm more than happy with the quality in our squad. Keatings is back so there is cover for the gap left by Commons plus he is a good option if we rest JC too.

Danny Handling scored I the development game too, hopefully he comes back from his injury and reproduces the form he showed at the tip of the diamond at Ibrox, I still have faith he'll come good a believe we have a player in him.

[gegs70]

I thought I had read somewhere that handling has been loaned out to Raith? And Lewis Allan to Edinburgh City?

[Waxy]

Do believe Handling deserves a chance.He was extremely unlucky.

[scoopyboy]

Do believe Handling deserves a chance.He was extremely unlucky.

I think he might get one.

Last night about 5pm Falkirk and Raith were both trying to get him on loan, however no sign of him going to either.

I'm wondering if we are keeping him cos we got no one in.

[JimboHibs]

I think he might get one.

Last night about 5pm Falkirk and Raith were both trying to get him on loan, however no sign of him going to either.

I'm wondering if we are keeping him cos we got no one in.

I hope so the boy has been very very unlucky with injuries.

[Jim44]

I think without the Hearts game coming up everybody would have been quite relaxed. It's added a bit of pressure.


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At the risk of being shot down in flames, I am the opposite ...... relaxed about the Cup game but more concerned about continuing our success in our number one priority. Last season we had a poll which basically established that a majority of h.net members ( of those who voted anyway) were willing to sacrifice promotion for the long awaited Cup win. Well we did that and the monkey's jumped on to the other shoulder. Let's get rid of that monkey, even if it means sacrificing retaining the Cup. There's no reason why we can't achieve both but let's avoid creating pressure where it's unnecessary.

[Thecat23]

Would we still be able to get him on an emergency loan?

Yes.

[livi hibs 1875]

Yes.

Do you think we are going to try get him as a loan again

[Jim44]

Would we still be able to get him on an emergency loan?


Yes.

I hope that happens. I'd like to think that the deal fell through because of a Celtic decision and not a Commons decision. The poor guy's going to go stir crazy twiddling his thumbs for the remainder of the season.

[HoboHarry]

I thought emergency loans only covered a 28 day period?

[Billy Whizz]

I thought emergency loans only covered a 28 day period?

Think it can be up to 90 days, or it used to be

[Baw187]

Can't happen now unless he was released yesterday.

How come? I though if he became a free agent at any point, we could sign him? I'm sure we've signed free agents out with the window before.

[BSEJVT]

How come? I though if he became a free agent at any point, we could sign him? I'm sure we've signed free agents out with the window before.

The critical point is that they need to be free agents before the end of the window.

If you think of it nothing else would work

Hibs want player A, he is under contract, his club free him and Hibs sign him and pay his club whatever his transfer fee would be to buy a lawnmower or whatever from them.

[SanFranHibs]

For me there are a few thoughts that come to mind.

1) Before the January transfer window I was confident we would win the Championship. I still am.

2) No other team in our league has strengthened noticeably and probably can't afford to.

3) We might be a bit weak for cover should we sustain a few injuries concurrently but that possibility faces most teams, so no excuses. Hopefully our league position will allow us to bring in one or two of the Development squad at a push. I can't see any of our top of the development league players being overawed if asked to fill in against the likes of Ayr, no disrespect intended.

4) Although I think our squad is overrated by some on this forum, I still think it is good enough and if Hibs were to blow an 8 point lead, the January transfer window should not be used as an excuse. After Dundee Utd, 8pts there is Morton 11pts with game in hand, Falkirk 14pts and then QOTS 20pts. I am 100% behind Lennon and think he will be a lot better next season in the top division but even I would be shaken if he let this go. I have said in previous posts I expect us to slowly build a lead and pull further away, even if unspectacularly. I still do. Lennon has certainly improved us in one respect.....I actually feel confident holding on to early 1 goal leads. That will go a long way to helping us win the division.

Notwithstanding the above, of course it would have been nice to bring in a couple of 'marquis' signings but I would have hoped for good signings leaning towards next season. Had the likes of Stokes and Commons been available under favourable conditions we would have been foolish not to grab them. But we do not 'need' them. This could also be interpreted as a vote of confidence by Lennon in his current squad. He thinks they are good enough. If the right player comes along then get him. If not, wait until he does.

Also, is it just me that thinks January transfer windows are becoming successively quieter throughout football? People should only panic buy if they wake up on the morning of their wives birthday and have forgotten to buy them a present. Even then, a high level of composure should be adopted..."Oh just wait...it's a surprise."

Well, no shocks or surprises in this transfer window. Just a good amount of composure.

Now, as for the old ladies in Gorgie sticking pins in the Grand National field trying to find a winner.....it's ok!

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[snooky]

For me there are a few thoughts that come to mind.

1) Before the January transfer window I was confident we would win the Championship. I still am.

2) No other team in our league has strengthened noticeably and probably can't afford to.

3) We might be a bit weak for cover should we sustain a few injuries concurrently but that possibility faces most teams, so no excuses. Hopefully our league position will allow us to bring in one or two of the Development squad at a push. I can't see any of our top of the development league players being overawed if asked to fill in against the likes of Ayr, no disrespect intended.

4) Although I think our squad is overrated by some on this forum, I still think it is good enough and if Hibs were to blow an 8 point lead, the January transfer window should not be used as an excuse. After Dundee Utd, 8pts there is Morton 11pts with game in hand, Falkirk 14pts and then QOTS 20pts. I am 100% behind Lennon and think he will be a lot better next season in the top division but even I would be shaken if he let this go. I have said in previous posts I expect us to slowly build a lead and pull further away, even if unspectacularly. I still do. Lennon has certainly improved us in one respect.....I actually feel confident holding on to early 1 goal leads. That will go a long way to helping us win the division.

Notwithstanding the above, of course it would have been nice to bring in a couple of 'marquis' signings but I would have hoped for good signings leaning towards next season. Had the likes of Stokes and Commons been available under favourable conditions we would have been foolish not to grab them. But we do not 'need' them. This could also be interpreted as a vote of confidence by Lennon in his current squad. He thinks they are good enough. If the right player comes along then get him. If not, wait until he does.

Also, is it just me that thinks January transfer windows are becoming successively quieter throughout football? People should only panic buy if they wake up on the morning of their wives birthday and have forgotten to buy them a present. Even then, a high level of composure should be adopted..."Oh just wait...it's a surprise."

Well, no shocks or surprises in this transfer window. Just a good amount of composure.

Now, as for the old ladies in Gorgie sticking pins in the Grand National field trying to find a winner.....it's ok!

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Good post, SFH. Pretty much says it all.
I would qualify it by saying if we do get plagued with injuries/suspensions en masse (esp. in key positions)and blow promotion, I think there will be a big backlash for the lack of activity in this window. While I agree it's very unlikely, as I've said before, so was relegation the year we got relegated.
All it takes is the perfect storm.

[Stevie Reid]

Some interesting stuff in here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38799466

[MrSmith]

Oooft!

what does this say about our city neighbours :|


"Well-run clubs are not going to sign players for the sake of it," said Match of the Day pundit Danny Murphy. "They will only do it if they can improve the team."

[Jim44]

Some interesting stuff in here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38799466

So we're rubbing shoulders with the big boys, eh? :rockin: Good point, 'tho.