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Islington Hibs
29-12-2016, 02:41 PM
I have invited a friend to the Dundee Utd game who is a keen football fan but is actually a neutral- likes to see the under-dog do well.......

His reply when accepting was

'Went to Hearts game recently and it was rather bank-telllerish. Hoping for a more passionate experience in the fair port.'

Interesting comments about his experience at the Famous....... let's hope we can show him.....

CallumLaidlaw
29-12-2016, 02:55 PM
I have invited a friend to the Dundee Utd game who is a keen football fan but is actually a neutral- likes to see the under-dog do well.......

His reply when accepting was

'Went to Hearts game recently and it was rather bank-telllerish. Hoping for a more passionate experience in the fair port.'

Interesting comments about his experience at the Famous....... let's hope we can show him.....

Interestingly, Hearts fans themselves say the atmosphere has been somewhat lacking at Tynecastle over the last 12 months, and they lay the blame at Budge.

Craig_HFC
29-12-2016, 02:58 PM
Well to be fair to them; they did lose 95% of their songbook in May.

:cb

neil7908
29-12-2016, 03:05 PM
I've always felt Tynecastle had one of the better atmospheres in Scotland. I wouldn't necessarily say due to the fans, more the way the stadium has berm built means that it traps the noise.

A couple of my Hearts supporting mates have also said the atmosphere had gone downhill. Now they are having to operate within their means and with us winning the cup I think they are now realising how much harder football is without living off borrowed money.

AlbertK86
29-12-2016, 03:06 PM
Interestingly, Hearts fans themselves say the atmosphere has been somewhat lacking at Tynecastle over the last 12 months, and they lay the blame at Budge.

Aye she has tried to stop their bigoted behaviour that had crept back in.

They don't sing about themselves much just about others misfortunes... In particular 1902 ...... Nae wonder they're quiet now !!

Don Giovanni
29-12-2016, 03:41 PM
Well to be fair to them...

:cb

Outrageous!!

Where's that report button?

:greengrin

NORTHERNHIBBY
29-12-2016, 04:16 PM
The only experience that I have of the atmosphere at Tynie is when we are playing there and it is always good.

erin go bragh
29-12-2016, 04:49 PM
They lost a huge percentage of their songs on the 21/05/16.
But what makes it even worse for them is the fact they were 2-0 up ,,,,,, . Never to be forgotten.
The PBS will be rocking on the 21st :)

Carheenlea
29-12-2016, 04:53 PM
The only experience that I have of the atmosphere at Tynie is when we are playing there and it is always good.

And that's why a lot of us are fooled into believing the "one of the worlds most atmospheric stadiums" line which was up to recently a line from their official club page.
Go to a derby at Easter Road and the atmosphere is electric. Go to a game v Dumbarton at Easter Road and the atmosphere is nothing to write home about. Most grounds are the same I'd imagine.

danhibees1875
29-12-2016, 05:00 PM
I used to work as a steward and be in tynecastle for many of their run of the mill games - the atmosphere was always fairly good (this was back when they were cheating right enough).

Steep stands, narrow pitch, bigger attendances, and a few thousand less seats than us (as it stands) all contribute to this, but generally it's a reputation from most neutrals as having a good atmosphere I've found.

GreenLake
29-12-2016, 05:00 PM
The atmosphere should be muted somewhat without tens of millions of pounds embezzled into the team.

northstandhibby
29-12-2016, 05:14 PM
And that's why a lot of us are fooled into believing the "one of the worlds most atmospheric stadiums" line which was up to recently a line from their official club page.
Go to a derby at Easter Road and the atmosphere is electric. Go to a game v Dumbarton at Easter Road and the atmosphere is nothing to write home about. Most grounds are the same I'd imagine.

There's definitely an agenda from the press to mention the 'atmosphere' everytime they mention Swiney. I may be called a conspiracy theorist but it appears to me it may be part of a bigger plan to make them the press dahlings because Celtic and The Rangers will be moving on soon enough to whatever league. A league without them would be one the Yams would have a very good chance of winning along with us once we get back up there, Aberdeen, DUFC and St johnstone etc. Can you imagine vying with the Yams to win the league our ER and their Swiney would be packed most weeks. As long as no 'Colts' are left behind it would appeal to me if they left. Think the Yams might miss their old stand for a while though.

NAE NOOKIE
29-12-2016, 05:57 PM
If you were going to design a football stadium with atmosphere in mind ( something too often ignored by clubs and architects ) then the PBS is probably what you would come up with. The stands are crammed together and fairly steep which keeps the noise in the stadium ... In reality I don't think the Yams are any better or worse than most fans, but because their ground has accidentally achieved the required configuration it will naturally lend itself to maximizing what atmosphere there is. In other words the atmosphere is certainly because of the stadium, not the actual fans who frequent it.

When its well populated and the game is a relatively exciting one Easter Road is as good as any stadium I've been to, including the PBS, but the truth is that both end stands were originally placed too far back from the ends of the side stands and the new east being built so far back to enable the pitch to be widened has lead to the gaps between the FF, east and south growing even bigger. The current solution of covering the gaps by putting up the stuff they have now is of little use as far as the atmosphere goes.

Once the new stand is completed at the Pink bus shelter that will be it, the Yams will have nowhere else to go so far as redevelopment is concerned and they will be left with their shoe box of a stadium with little or nothing to recommend it as a ground worth seeing.

Easter road on the other hand has all of the bits in place to be something really special ...... If the money is ever available somebody with a bit of imagination could fill in the corners to make the stands join up ( it doesn't have to be with seats ) and by extending the roofs of all 4 by a couple of metres to be nearer the pitch we would have one hell of a stadium, probably the best medium sized ground in the whole of the UK.

Until that's done I for one will always consider ER to be unfinished and sadly failing to realise its full potential.

LithgaeHibby
29-12-2016, 06:07 PM
The "great acoustics" at the PBS also amplifies their howls of derision when things aren't going their way - anyone who saw the second half highlights of their game v Partick would have heard regular booing coming loud and clear from the home stands.

son of haggart
29-12-2016, 06:16 PM
Interestingly, Hearts fans themselves say the atmosphere has been somewhat lacking at Tynecastle over the last 12 months, and they lay the blame at Budge.

None of the Hearts fans I know say that - the atmosphere is worse than it was in the Championship where we were winning the league and scoring for fun, but not much different from last year and I would say Budge has the support of 99% plus of hearts fans. The only ones who don't are probably the ones she has banned and their pals.

Having said that, i;'s different when you get up and play Hamilton four times a year and get beat four times by Celtic who are 20+ points ahead. Most of the folk I know enjoyed the Championship more, but that's Scottish football for you

son of haggart
29-12-2016, 06:19 PM
If you were going to design a football stadium with atmosphere in mind ( something too often ignored by clubs and architects ) then the PBS is probably what you would come up with. The stands are crammed together and fairly steep which keeps the noise in the stadium ... In reality I don't think the Yams are any better or worse than most fans, but because their ground has accidentally achieved the required configuration it will naturally lend itself to maximizing what atmosphere there is. In other words the atmosphere is certainly because of the stadium, not the actual fans who frequent it.

When its well populated and the game is a relatively exciting one Easter Road is as good as any stadium I've been to, including the PBS, but the truth is that both end stands were originally placed too far back from the ends of the side stands and the new east being built so far back to enable the pitch to be widened has lead to the gaps between the FF, east and south growing even bigger. The current solution of covering the gaps by putting up the stuff they have now is of little use as far as the atmosphere goes.



I agree with what you say in these two paragraphs - stadium designers sometimes forget atmosphere in favour of 'comfort' Tynecastle does have a great atmosphere on important match days - rest of the time its much the same as any scottish stadium

Rougier45
29-12-2016, 06:25 PM
There's definitely an agenda from the press to mention the 'atmosphere' everytime they mention Swiney. I may be called a conspiracy theorist but it appears to me it may be part of a bigger plan to make them the press dahlings because Celtic and The Rangers will be moving on soon enough to whatever league. A league without them would be one the Yams would have a very good chance of winning along with us once we get back up there, Aberdeen, DUFC and St johnstone etc. Can you imagine vying with the Yams to win the league our ER and their Swiney would be packed most weeks. As long as no 'Colts' are left behind it would appeal to me if they left. Think the Yams might miss their old stand for a while though.

There is some drive posted on hibs Net but this is up there with anything I have read

northstandhibby
29-12-2016, 06:43 PM
There is some drive posted on hibs Net but this is up there with anything I have read

Don't have any problems at all with polar opposite points of view. Just curious to ask what you disagree with and why it's drivel?

where'stheslope
29-12-2016, 07:03 PM
I don't think it really matters what ground you go to now, as long as four sides have been done.

If you have full or near full stadia, and one stand full of away supporters, the atmosphere generated is normally electric.

For the home fans it is more likely to resonate when the away team scores and its like a cannon being fired, the noise can be deafening.

The reason I chose the away team scoring, was, when the home team scores you only hear yourself and those around you shouting!!

Bostonhibby
29-12-2016, 07:27 PM
I'm assuming the guy wasn't sitting anywhere near the "toilets" or maybe had a heavy cold and therefore missed the smell of the real "atmosphere"

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Hi Heid Yin
30-12-2016, 12:04 AM
Tynecastle, for me, is definitely the most atmospheric stadium I have experienced. The acoustics are phenomenal, simply because of the claustrophobic dimensions and steep inclined stands. It's like sitting in a shoe box with the lid off. Tynecastle also has that old world look and feel to it - which this old head (59) feels kind of nostalgic about. We've had some great atmospheres at ER too, but our 4 open corners and wider pitch and more open sky diminishes the sound significantly. Talking of great atmospheres, I recall an incredible night against Leeds United back in Nov 73 when I sat with my dad in the old wooden stand. The sound was deafening as we all stomped our feet on the wooden decking. I also loved the old and huge open terracing when there was big crowd and game on. Sigh! We certainly made a lot of noise in those games against Celtic and Rangers - roof or no roof!

Steve-O
30-12-2016, 10:06 AM
I think Ibrox is a lot louder than Tynecastle.

hibbysam
30-12-2016, 10:24 AM
I think Ibrox is a lot louder than Tynecastle.

I have never heard an atmosphere/noise like the one on December 28th last year at Ibrox. Celtic Park, with the new standing area, seems to have a very good atmosphere to it this season, with it being full lost weeks and winning also helps.

Colr
30-12-2016, 11:01 AM
Interestingly, Hearts fans themselves say the atmosphere has been somewhat lacking at Tynecastle over the last 12 months, and they lay the blame at Budge.

Does she not sing load enough for them?

Speedy
30-12-2016, 11:08 AM
'Beware of pickpockets' :greengrin

Waxy
30-12-2016, 11:16 AM
Nothing to do with hearts as a club or there fans. Its just the way the small stadium is enclosed by buildings. Look at West Ham and what happens when its all taken away. I can envisage hearts playing in a stadium on the outskirts of town in alot of years ahead in some multipurpose stadium(maybe with running track).The population is rising and people will flock to football. If it wasnt so expensive we'd be overflowing with people now.Guess that's part of why the price is kept high.

Jack Hackett
30-12-2016, 02:50 PM
Nothing to do with hearts as a club or there fans. Its just the way the small stadium is enclosed by buildings. Look at West Ham and what happens when its all taken away. I can envisage hearts playing in a stadium on the outskirts of town in alot of years ahead in some multipurpose stadium(maybe with running track).The population is rising and people will flock to football. If it wasnt so expensive we'd be overflowing with people now.Guess that's part of why the price is kept high.

That's probably a bit unfair, especially in Scotland. I don't think overflowing grounds is ever going to be a problem, and with the abject amount of money coming into the game, clubs need to balance the books...apart from a couple of notable exceptions who never gave a s*** :rolleyes:...it's not as if they are all posting huge profits. It's a different scenario in the EPL where for the most part, it's probably down to greed and a total lack of responsibility in managing the massive amounts of cash they receive...paying 20 times more for a player than you sold him for a couple of years earlier springs to mind.

where'stheslope
30-12-2016, 07:39 PM
That's probably a bit unfair, especially in Scotland. I don't think overflowing grounds is ever going to be a problem, and with the abject amount of money coming into the game, clubs need to balance the books...apart from a couple of notable exceptions who never gave a s*** :rolleyes:...it's not as if they are all posting huge profits. It's a different scenario in the EPL where for the most part, it's probably down to greed and a total lack of responsibility in managing the massive amounts of cash they receive...paying 20 times more for a player than you sold him for a couple of years earlier springs to mind.

Quite true about Scotland.

However in England some of the debts they have, made the YAMS look like penny pinchers!

I think it's Chelsea who have debts in the region of £958 million, and that's with the EPL handout per season of £150 million.

It is truly crazy times, and if anything was to happen to SKY, you'll smell it from here!!!

Scottie
30-12-2016, 07:48 PM
20 seconds in and Crocker says PBS one of the best atmospheric grounds in Northern Europe. :rolleyes:

greenlex
30-12-2016, 08:08 PM
20 mins in and it's like a morgue. More atmosphere on the moon.

Bostonhibby
30-12-2016, 08:15 PM
20 seconds in and Crocker says PBS one of the best atmospheric grounds in Northern Europe. :rolleyes:
Did he say which part of northern Europe? The faroes? Shetland?

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Canon Hannan
30-12-2016, 08:18 PM
I personally think Ibrox has a really good atmosphere. Easter Road and Tynecastle are very similar and both decent. Easter Road is bigger and better though 🙏

Pete
30-12-2016, 08:28 PM
20 seconds in and Crocker says PBS one of the best atmospheric grounds in Northern Europe. :rolleyes:

:faf:

Even hearts fans will be embarrassed hearing that one.

greenlex
30-12-2016, 08:31 PM
It's getting a bit noisy now. I can hear Come on ye reds loud and clear.

Waxy
30-12-2016, 08:56 PM
The atmosphere at the end of this years Scottish cup replay against them was better than anything i've ever witnessed from them at tincastle.

3pm
30-12-2016, 09:00 PM
:faf:

Even hearts fans will be embarrassed hearing that one.

I doubt it.

Itsnoteasy
30-12-2016, 09:11 PM
The atmosphere at the end of this years Scottish cup replay against them was better than anything i've ever witnessed from them at tincastle.

AEK at Easter Road was better for me. From start to finish that whole night was electric.

Waxy
30-12-2016, 09:14 PM
AEK at Easter Road was better for me. From start to finish that whole night was electric.

Yes it was.If only Paco scored at the end.

Itsnoteasy
30-12-2016, 09:47 PM
Yes it was.If only Paco scored at the end.

The game in Athens was some atmosphere also. A Greek in the stadium at the top of a 30 feet high fence burning an American flag then getting pelted with coins & lighters when they scored. Then the riot police escorts after the game. That was a different kind of atmosphere.

northstandhibby
30-12-2016, 09:59 PM
Swiney is just like a sardine box which will be worse when the old stand goes as it is the only part of it with any character. It will be a soulless cheap looking place no matter how much the media try to hype it. It's also one which does not meet UEFA requirements.

Cheap and nasty!!!

:lolyam::giruy2:

Ringothedog
30-12-2016, 10:03 PM
The game in Athens was some atmosphere also. A Greek in the stadium at the top of a 30 feet high fence burning an American flag then getting pelted with coins & lighters when they scored. Then the riot police escorts after the game. That was a different kind of atmosphere.
There were no escorts for us independent travellers, before the game the taxi driver dropped us off at the wrong end deliberately, we just sang Hibs songs all the way. After the game was "fun".

Itsnoteasy
30-12-2016, 10:10 PM
There were no escorts for us independent travellers, before the game the taxi driver dropped us off at the wrong end deliberately, we just sang Hibs songs all the way. After the game was "fun".

Dearest game of football I had ever been to. Went the week b4 when cancelled. Then went to this game.

Ringothedog
30-12-2016, 11:02 PM
Dearest game of football I had ever been to. Went the week b4 when cancelled. Then went to this game.

Snap, although we only got to London before we heard the game had been cancelled.Fantastic trip which lives long in the memory.

Bishop Hibee
31-12-2016, 01:13 AM
Great atmosphere at Tiny. McInnes mentioning Hertz were booed off at half time 😀

hibsdaft
31-12-2016, 08:16 AM
'Beware of pickpockets' :greengrin

They steal from their own.

Pretty Boy
31-12-2016, 08:23 AM
I think Ibrox is a lot louder than Tynecastle.

Agreed.

It probably won't go down well on here but Ibrox is a favourite of mine as a stadium. It's showing it's age a bit now but the 4 stands with the the extra tier on the main stand and the filled in corners is conductive to a very loud atmospehre when it gets going. It also must be quite claustrophobic for players and feel like the stands are closing in on you.

If Hibs could find something to do with the corners, obviously not unrequired extra seating, we could have something not massively dissimilar on a smaller scale

Famous Fiver
31-12-2016, 08:38 AM
Great atmosphere right enough.

Booed off at half time and again at full time.

Big team. my erkie.