Skacels challenge and gestures

[staunchhibby]

Surely this is where the compliance officer should justify his existence,He should be looking into Skacels carry on in Saturdays game and take action.
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[LithgaeHibby]

I think many folk on here would want the compliance officer to do what many hibs fans did - just ignore him as he is completely irrelevant. As many have said on here already, his actions were in fact actually quite tragic.

[sleeping giant]

We're all he has left.

[Hibby Bairn]

I thought it was a decent bit of banter. Time to lighten up a bit.

[Waxy]

We've win the cup since in more dramatic fashion than we could have made up, and we did it without cheating.

[Golden Bear]

It was more than banter, in my eyes he brought the game into disrepute and his actions could have provoked trouble.

He deserves to be reported and I hope he will be.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

It was more than banter, in my eyes he brought the game into disrepute and his actions could have provoked trouble.

He deserves to be reported and I hope he will be.

Yep

Imagine the media attention if someone like El Hadj Djouf done it in an old firm game? The guy is a complete irrelevance to me and seems his only existence is to noise up hibs fans but,for me anyway, he crossed the line with some of his antics.

It's a shame our players are too nice at times. He should have been put in the air at every opportunity and he'd soon quieten down

[Heisenberg]

It's makes me happy to know that his sole purpose on that pitch was to be there to wind us up and kick our players. He's a finished old man and I'm surprised the Raith fans are willing to put up with him. Dundee United fans certainly figured him out quickly enough.

[J-C]

I noticed Gray having a right go at the ref as Skacel was going off making his gestures, I think he was pointing out he was already booked and what he was doing was a yellow card offence.

Loved it when Martin went right through him to win the ball, he doesn't like it when that happens but should've been off with his challenge on Dylan.

[Onion]

Knew exactly what he was doing and trying incite a reaction, possibly even trouble from Hibs fans. The officials should have had a word with him and taken action. Went beyond "banter". The guy is a another obsessed idiot.

[easty]

He does it to get a reaction, if more folk would just ignore the irrelevant obsessed ****, then it wouldn't be an issue.

He done a 5-1 hand gesture, it's no like he spat on a ballboys face, he's a comedy villain that we play along with, by reacting how he wants us to.

**** him.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Don't care about the hand gestures personally but once again it's a rule for one and a rule for another. Last season Andy Halliday was shown a second yellow for punching the air in celebration after scoring for Rangers and Jason Cummings was booked for holding his hands out in front of the Hearts support. It wasn't that long ago that Griffiths was receiving retrospective bans for making gestures to supporters too so why is Skacel any different? I wasn't bothered or offended by it but he should have been booked for it.

And anyone who thinks that challenge at the West Touchline just before half time was just a bit of banter needs their head looked at.

[wookie70]

I'm more worried the ref thought his tackle was a yellow. It was as bad as I have seen all season. He could have been booked twice while being subbed. When his number was held up his first five steps or so were away from his dugout. Time wasting as clear as you will ever see and the 1-5 gesture was a booking too and he was still on the pitch at that point. He walked off having been booked when I think there was a red and two yellow card offences. The same punishment Scott Martin faced for a pretty soft challenge. Big nose is an irrelevance now but the way referees are performing is not.

[emerald green]

Here's what Dylan McGeouch had to say about the rodent Rudi.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/rudi-skacel-lucky-to-avoid-red-card-says-hibs-dylan-mcgeouch-1-4325604

[NAE NOOKIE]

Dylan wasn't impressed with his challenge on him and said so in the EEN. As for the hand gesture, whether it upset folk or not isn't the point, the point is it was intended to and if he had done it in front of the east whose to say he wouldn't have got a 50p in the eye or worse and then we would have been in trouble ..... for that reason it was a 2nd yellow all day long, other players have been booked for less.

With Skacel its all about maintaining his love in with the Yams, which unfortunately for Raith Rovers means they are an afterthought to him .... if what he showed against us is typical of the way he plays for them I'm surprised he gets a game, he was rubbish.

[Carheenlea]

Here's what Dylan McGeouch had to say about the rodent Rudi.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/rudi-skacel-lucky-to-avoid-red-card-says-hibs-dylan-mcgeouch-1-4325604

Gary Cocke is missing the point a wee bit. We were going to angry at anyone who makes a disgraceful challenge like the one on McGeouch. The fact he thinks we would sit quietly had anyone else made the challenge says a lot about what he classes as unacceptable challenges. That's the Hearts way of things of course. Skacels walk to the front of the East after he was told he was coming off was just so he could get a minute where it was going to be all about him and an opportunity to make childish gestures.
The guy seems to cares about Hibs, himself, Hearts then maybe Raith - in that order of priority, and if I were a Raith fan, I'd be angry at my club for employing someone like him, and angry at my clubs manager for selecting him to purely wind up an oppositions support at the expense of someone who might contribute something positive to the side.

[emerald green]

Would any Hibs player have got away without a red card if he had acted in the manner Skacel did on Saturday at lets say Ibrox, Tynecastle or Celtic Park?

I very much doubt it. Yet another example of a referee not doing his job properly.

[HappyHanlon]

Skacel is irrelevant.

Since the 5-1 cup final, he's scored about the same as Mark Oxley has.

It's clear to see from his body language that he's not liked or wanted by his Raith team mates (think he touched the ball about 4 times throughout the match).

Every Raith corner, he was at the edge of the box unmarked and ignored on all occasions.

His patter is guff, designed to wind our fans up (same as Nade at Dumbarton last season). Simply obsessed, washed up footballers (look at Nade, chowing down McDonalds in Annan these days).

Skacel and his crooked beak won't be around much longer - unless it's pulling pints in some inbred watering hole in Gorgie.

[JimBHibees]

Don't care about the hand gestures personally but once again it's a rule for one and a rule for another. Last season Andy Halliday was shown a second yellow for punching the air in celebration after scoring for Rangers and Jason Cummings was booked for holding his hands out in front of the Hearts support. It wasn't that long ago that Griffiths was receiving retrospective bans for making gestures to supporters too so why is Skacel any different? I wasn't bothered or offended by it but he should have been booked for it.

And anyone who thinks that challenge at the West Touchline just before half time was just a bit of banter needs their head looked at.

That is where I am we have had players booked or reported for less. His gesture when subbed was a yellow every day of the week. Another weak as a kitten ref. Same every week.

[JimBHibees]

Would any Hibs player have got away without a red card if he had acted in the manner Skacel did on Saturday at lets say Ibrox, Tynecastle or Celtic Park?

I very much doubt it. Yet another example of a referee not doing his job properly.

Agree totally.

[Eyrie]

Let's have a little perspective here on Skacel's actions by comparing them to two other incidents.

Steve Fulton was booked for blowing the old East a kiss in response to chants about his weight.

The police are still hunting Hibs fans for being exuberant on the pitch last May.

All Skacel did was make an unprovoked and unnecessary gesture at opposing fans in a bid to get a reaction, or at least his existence acknowledged.

[green day]

There is something really quite odd about some ex-hearts players isnt there?

Skacel with his stuff and that Australian nobody (Mcgowans?) who was doing 5-1 signs when he played in the world cup - I mean these are grown men, who appear to be obsessed with a club they only ever played against.

I know some decent jambos, but this pair seem to have clicked with the type of foaming at the mouth, windae licking Hearts fan that posts on the EEN website / Kickback.

There is something slightly creepy about those types - I do wonder if they are intellectually a bit on the slow side - perhaps if the same applies to Rudi??

[JimBHibees]

Let's have a little perspective here on Skacel's actions by comparing them to two other incidents.

Steve Fulton was booked for blowing the old East a kiss in response to chants about his weight.

The police are still hunting Hibs fans for being exuberant on the pitch last May.

All Skacel did was make an unprovoked and unnecessary gesture at opposing fans in a bid to get a reaction, or at least his existence acknowledged.

Which Hibs players have been punished for. All looking for is consistency.

[Aalborg Hibs]

Steve Fulton was booked for blowing the old East a kiss in response to chants about his weight.

No he wasn't.

He was booked for being ugly.:flag:

[NZ Green]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ctXtiXgAUlio7.jpg

To be honest I laughed out loud at this picture, it is pretty funny, he looks like a cheeky wee boy pissing off alot of grown men.

It is pretty sad that it was a while ago now and that he is playing for Raith Rovers, also the fact we currently own the cup he is referring too. What's sadder though are the people who are crying about it.

[The_Horde]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ctXtiXgAUlio7.jpg

To be honest I laughed out loud at this picture, it is pretty funny, he looks like a cheeky wee boy pissing off alot of grown men.

It is pretty sad that it was a while ago now and that he is playing for Raith Rovers, also the fact we currently own the cup he is referring too. What's sadder though are the people who are crying about it.

Don't think anyone's crying about it. More just having a pop at the ref for A. Not sending him off for that red card challenge and B: not sending him off for the several gestures he made which, by the letter of the law, were all yellow card offences.

The ref was pants all day actually. Helped them slow the game down on several occasions when he could've played on, didn't acknowledge any time wasting or players kicking the ball away and somehow gifted raith set pieces and throw ins that were clearly the other way.

It does make you wonder sometimes.

[hibee62]

I thought it was a decent bit of banter. Time to lighten up a bit.

The gestures didn't bother me, but the time wasting did and should have led to a second yellow card.

[The_Horde]

I thought it was a decent bit of banter. Time to lighten up a bit.

Aye. Top bants right enough.

[21.05.2016]

Awck leave the desperate, attention seeking wee nobody to it. He's finished, contributed nothing to the game the other day so had to do the 5-1 as an alternative means of getting attention. Its all about him, loves being the centre of attention hense why he loves the tramps so much. The hearts fans are drooling over his 5-1 gesture.

This is the man who leeched off them during the Romanov days then when **** hit the fan and he was asked to re-sign on a reduced (but still perfectly reasonable) wage he ****ed off. So much for his dying love for them eh. The bottom line is that he simply hates hibs more than he loves hearts. Just look at how he sucks up to the tramps, all about hibs and having a dig at hibs, never about how much he loves hearts. He's a nobody but craves the attention. He knew his oh so hillarious 5-1 gesture would have the mutants flocking around him, bigging him up.

Some hearts fans on twitter even said "you've never had anyone near the class of skacel". Oh my ****ing sides :faf::faf::faf: Skacel wouldn't know class if it bit him on the arse. The Skacel **** fest over there is embarrasing.

[GreenLake]

In a market where yield is difficult to come by, a retired player like him, who thought he was wealthy, might need to take on odd jobs like pulling pints or playing for Raith Rovers.

[Billy Whizz]

In a market where yield is difficult to come by, a retired player like him, who thought he was wealthy, might need to take on odd jobs like pulling pints or playing for Raith Rovers.

Or trying to sell tickets for his tribute dinner in March

[SteveHFC]

There is something really quite odd about some ex-hearts players isnt there?

Skacel with his stuff and that Australian nobody (Mcgowans?) who was doing 5-1 signs when he played in the world cup - I mean these are grown men, who appear to be obsessed with a club they only ever played against.

I know some decent jambos, but this pair seem to have clicked with the type of foaming at the mouth, windae licking Hearts fan that posts on the EEN website / Kickback.

There is something slightly creepy about those types - I do wonder if they are intellectually a bit on the slow side - perhaps if the same applies to Rudi??


Tbf to McGowan he did post this after the final.

Ryan McGowan ‏@rmcgowan89 (https://twitter.com/rmcgowan89) May 21 (https://twitter.com/rmcgowan89/status/734050281680310274)What a way to win the cup https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.png Congratulations to all my hibs pals....enjoy the celebrations #ScottishCupFinal (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ScottishCupFinal?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.png

[Billy Whizz]

Tbf to McGowan he did post that after the final.

Ryan McGowan ‏@rmcgowan89 (https://twitter.com/rmcgowan89) May 21 (https://twitter.com/rmcgowan89/status/734050281680310274)What a way to win the cup https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.png Congratulations to all my hibs pals....enjoy the celebrations #ScottishCupFinal (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ScottishCupFinal?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.png


He was the 1st person to text me after the final whistle

[Big L]

Awck leave the desperate, attention seeking wee nobody to it. He's finished, contributed nothing to the game the other day so had to do the 5-1 as an alternative means of getting attention. Its all about him, loves being the centre of attention hense why he loves the tramps so much. The hearts fans are drooling over his 5-1 gesture.

This is the man who leeched off them during the Romanov days then when **** hit the fan and he was asked to re-sign on a reduced (but still perfectly reasonable) wage he ****ed off. So much for his dying love for them eh. The bottom line is that he simply hates hibs more than he loves hearts. Just look at how he sucks up to the tramps, all about hibs and having a dig at hibs, never about how much he loves hearts. He's a nobody but craves the attention. He knew his oh so hillarious 5-1 gesture would have the mutants flocking around him, bigging him up.

Some hearts fans on twitter even said "you've never had anyone near the class of skacel". Oh my ****ing sides :faf::faf::faf: Skacel wouldn't know class if it bit him on the arse. The Skacel **** fest over there is embarrasing.

Spot on! Just endearing himself to the Gorgie knuckle draggers.

[21.05.2016]

Spot on! Just endearing himself to the Gorgie knuckle draggers.

Exactly. Awck well let the wee scrote have his wee moment in the sun living off past glories from an era that HMFC should really be hanging their heads in shame over.

He's a nobody, playing hibs this season was like his big cup final. He played utterly rank, if he really wanted to wind us up properly he would have scored but he couldn't so his gesture was all he had in the locker.

[Sir David Gray]

Skacel and that other prick Bobby Barr should both be charged by the compliance officer.

Their actions at the weekend were out of order.

[oldbutdim]

On the strength of this thread I had a wee look at Sickbag and the reaction the mutants had to the sad wee mans pantomime villainy.
My goodness.
Every club must have its share of dafties, but boy do the Gunts excel at this.
I don't think there can be another football club in the world which has fans that can only define themselves in relation to their rivals.

[green day]

Tbf to McGowan he did post this after the final.

Ryan McGowan ‏@rmcgowan89 (https://twitter.com/rmcgowan89) May 21 (https://twitter.com/rmcgowan89/status/734050281680310274)What a way to win the cup https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.png Congratulations to all my hibs pals....enjoy the celebrations #ScottishCupFinal (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ScottishCupFinal?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c6.png


I saw that at the time - pure deflection so poeple like you say "aw, hes an alright lad".

Still doesnt change the fact that his timeline is practically full of hearts crap, retweets and pictures of him doing the same gesture as Rudi etc and little about his current employers.

Anyway, whether you think hes a decent lad or not - I think hes a jambo dick :greengrin:greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Irrelevant has been.

People getting wound up by him are worse than him. It's exactly what he wants. Best ignored.

[lyonhibs]

Irrelevant has been.

People getting wound up by him are worse than him. It's exactly what he wants. Best ignored.

Yup. Clapped out old banger. Folk getting het up are losing to him and his one dimensional "banter".

A wry smile at the inevitability of it all coupled with the warming knowledge that he's a wee scroat that's not even any good at football any more will do me fine.

[emerald green]

I thought it was a decent bit of banter. Time to lighten up a bit.


:faf:

[where'stheslope]

Irrelevant has been.

People getting wound up by him are worse than him. It's exactly what he wants. Best ignored.

So true!!!

Yet most Hibs fans are up in arms, Hibs players in the press talking about him, people want the compliance officer involved ect. ect.????

Who's the more obsessed with who???

Just let it go!!!

[Velma Dinkley]

If Jason Cummings gets yellow cards for making gestures to Hibs fans, surely the same should apply to opposition players. Just weak refereeing and a pandering player stuck in the past.

[Hermit Crab]

Certainly a lot of sensitive people on this thread. Let it go, fans give him it tight every time he plays against us. The same fans then can't complain if he retaliates with some daft hand gesture. Get over it and stop being childish ffs.

[Hillsidehibby]

I was in Portugal with two jambo mates and we met a guy from the Czech Republic. They started creaming themselves about RS to him. His response was "who?"

[Velma Dinkley]

Certainly a lot of sensitive people on this thread. Let it go, fans give him it tight every time he plays against us. The same fans then can't complain if he retaliates with some daft hand gesture. Get over it and stop being childish ffs.

If he doesn't get booked for it of course they can.

[GreenLake]

Or trying to sell tickets for his tribute dinner in March

It's a pity for him he can't sell tickets per finger rather than head.

[21.05.2016]

I was in Portugal with two jambo mates and we met a guy from the Czech Republic. They started creaming themselves about RS to him. His response was "who?"

surely some mistake, I mean we were told that the 5-1 game "sent shockwaves around the world"

[Onion]

Certainly a lot of sensitive people on this thread. Let it go, fans give him it tight every time he plays against us. The same fans then can't complain if he retaliates with some daft hand gesture. Get over it and stop being childish ffs.

Banter is dead in football and there's no point telling folk not to be childish. Just ask the 11 Sevco players who were all hospitalised after the verbal taunting they took last May :rolleyes:.

In a crowd of 15500 you will find a fair few headcases who will come nowhere near this thread and who might take deep exception to Skatchel's attention seeking. Then it's the club and all of us who get hammered.

Like it or not, players have a higher responsibility for their behaviour and that's why they get booked and SO when they overstep the mark. Skatchel running across park (timewasting) when his number was called, and then goading :cb the Hibs fans should have seen him get a 2nd yellow. Nothing to do with banter.

[hibsbollah]

Has anyone asked themselves why Skacel behaves like this whenever he comes across Hibs in his professional career? It's fairly obvious. The song. It offended him and he's never forgiven us for it.

[JimBHibees]

Certainly a lot of sensitive people on this thread. Let it go, fans give him it tight every time he plays against us. The same fans then can't complain if he retaliates with some daft hand gesture. Get over it and stop being childish ffs.

Nonsense should have walked for tackle and gesture when subbed was much more than your mate Jason gets booked for. He gets second yellow or red with tackle we probably win game. Complaining about ref not doing his job again.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

As DM said he didn't trouble us with his football. No doubt Garry Locke will be telling the other Raith Rovers players why the 5-1 stuff is acceptable.

[21.05.2016]

Leigh Griffith is our equivalent of Skacel. The hearts fans hate him and he hates them. The big difference being that Griffith doesn't obsess himself with hearts and shows his love for hibs by constantly saying positive things for hibs rather than feeling the need to dig at hearts every time he opens his mouth in order to try sook up to us.

Another huge difference is, Griffith does his winding up ON the pitch by scoring against them. Skacel has no such ability anymore. Unfortunatly when skacel was at hearts he was playing in an financially inflated hearts squad against a very very poor hibs side. Sadly we made him look like a far better player than he actually was.

Just noticed a few Raith fans on twitter who are pretty pissed off with Skacels "oh look at me, 5-1" antics. Once again its all about Skacel and his hearts legacy not the club who are currently paying his wages. Was the same situation at Dundee Utd when they played hearts at tynecastle, Skacel was subbed off but instead of acknowleding the Utd fans, was more concerned with doing a lap of honour to the hearts support.

[lyonhibs]

Has anyone asked themselves why Skacel behaves like this whenever he comes across Hibs in his professional career? It's fairly obvious. The song. It offended him and he's never forgiven us for it.

Skacel behaved like a spoilt brat from the first time he scored against us at Tynie and made the "get out" gesture in front of the Roseburn end. This was long before "the song" got its unfortunate day in the sun so that's that justification out the window.

He's just an obsessed window licker, desperate to ingratiate himself to the hordes.

The big difference these days is that he's now an insignificance on the football pitch and thus not worthy of the teeth gnashing that he may once have justified from us.

[hibsbollah]

Skacel behaved like a spoilt brat from the first time he scored against us at Tynie and made the "get out" gesture in front of the Roseburn end. This was long before "the song" got its unfortunate day in the sun so that's that justification out the window.

He's just an obsessed window licker, desperate to ingratiate himself to the hordes.

The big difference these days is that he's not a insignificance on the football pitch and thus not worthy of the teeth gnashing that he may once have justified from us.

Its not 'out the window'. Your justification is just 'please miss he did it first'. The fact is I've been in the East Stand when it sounded like ALL of us were pounding out a lovely racist ditty at him. He's said in interview before that he bore a grudge at Riordan for singing it and it clearly bothers him. If you don't think that's at the root of his dislike of us you're dreaming.

[hibsbollah]

Leigh Griffith is our equivalent of Skacel. The hearts fans hate him and he hates them. The big difference being that Griffith doesn't obsess himself with hearts and shows his love for hibs by constantly saying positive things for hibs rather than feeling the need to dig at hearts every time he opens his mouth in order to try sook up to us.

Another huge difference is, Griffith does his winding up ON the pitch by scoring against them. Skacel has no such ability anymore. Unfortunatly when skacel was at hearts he was playing in an financially inflated hearts squad against a very very poor hibs side. Sadly we made him look like a far better player than he actually was.

Just noticed a few Raith fans on twitter who are pretty pissed off with Skacels "oh look at me, 5-1" antics. Once again its all about Skacel and his hearts legacy not the club who are currently paying his wages. Was the same situation at Dundee Utd when they played hearts at tynecastle, Skacel was subbed off but instead of acknowleding the Utd fans, was more concerned with doing a lap of honour to the hearts support.

I don't think bringing Leigh into it helps your argument, for obvious reasons.

[lyonhibs]

Its not 'out the window'. Your justification is just 'please miss he did it first'. The fact is I've been in the East Stand when it sounded like ALL of us were pounding out a lovely racist ditty at him. He's said in interview before that he bore a grudge at Riordan for singing it and it clearly bothers him. If you don't think that's at the root of his dislike of us you're dreaming.

Well what was going on in his pea brain to make him act like he did before that song? That'll play part of the root as well, whatever it is.

FWIW, that song is horrid and of course I'm sure plays a role. He's hardly "taken the high road" with the nature of his behaviour since mind.

[Sir David Gray]

Certainly a lot of sensitive people on this thread. Let it go, fans give him it tight every time he plays against us. The same fans then can't complain if he retaliates with some daft hand gesture. Get over it and stop being childish ffs.

I just want the laws of the game applied in every case.

If Leigh Griffiths gets punished for gesturing to his own fans, Skacel should be punished here.

It's not about being childish, what he did should have resulted in a second yellow card and the referee didn't do his job properly.


Has anyone asked themselves why Skacel behaves like this whenever he comes across Hibs in his professional career? It's fairly obvious. The song. It offended him and he's never forgiven us for it.

It's nothing to do with that. As others have said, he's been behaving like that since before that song first started.

It also doesn't mean that the referee should turn a blind eye to him behaving like that. As stated above, his actions when being substituted should have resulted in him being sent off.

[Pete]

Well what was going on in his pea brain to make him act like he did before that song? That'll play part of the root as well, whatever it is.

FWIW, that song is horrid and of course I'm sure plays a role. He's hardly "taken the high road" with the nature of his behaviour since mind.

I think you're both right in a way. He was a twat before the song but I doubt he would have been this bitter had it not been sung. If you're abused in such a manner by the fans and players of a specific club you're not going to like them.

Still, nothing we can do about it now but laugh at his antics, which are over the top for a supposedly grown man.

[Eyrie]

Certainly a lot of sensitive people on this thread. Let it go, fans give him it tight every time he plays against us. The same fans then can't complain if he retaliates with some daft hand gesture. Get over it and stop being childish ffs.

I agree with your sentiments but until the laws of the game are changed then referees have to apply those laws consistently. There are plenty of examples of other players being booked for gesturing to opposing fans, so why is an exception to be made for a never-was who is being substituted?

[hibbydog]

Skacels assault was a straight red. Shocking.

That aside, I couldn't go very flying one about his gestures or winding up of the Hibs fans. He clearly enjoys his pantomime villain role otherwise he wouldn't do it.

I don't really mind it. Yes he's a prick but it adds a bit of spice to an otherwise dull league where very few of our opponents are worth noting.

[RoxburghHibs]

Its not 'out the window'. Your justification is just 'please miss he did it first'. The fact is I've been in the East Stand when it sounded like ALL of us were pounding out a lovely racist ditty at him. He's said in interview before that he bore a grudge at Riordan for singing it and it clearly bothers him. If you don't think that's at the root of his dislike of us you're dreaming.

That song is a symptom of Skacels weird obsession of Hibs not the cause. As mentioned earlier he took every opportunity to wind up long before that song came along.
He's a classless rat and in truth is a perfect match for the cheats.

[Seveno]

I just feel sorry for the Raith fans, having to put up with a no-good, has-been, wage thief.

[Galahibby]

Dylan wasn't impressed with his challenge on him and said so in the EEN. As for the hand gesture, whether it upset folk or not isn't the point, the point is it was intended to and if he had done it in front of the east whose to say he wouldn't have got a 50p in the eye or worse and then we would have been in trouble ..... for that reason it was a 2nd yellow all day long, other players have been booked for less.

With Skacel its all about maintaining his love in with the Yams, which unfortunately for Raith Rovers means they are an afterthought to him .... if what he showed against us is typical of the way he plays for them I'm surprised he gets a game, he was rubbish.

This in a nutshell. I think the guy's just a pathetic twat and can't say I was overly upset by his gesture but, as I said on another thread, we're now 7 months into a seemingly never ending investigation for a supposed riot caused by us 'goading' The Rangers fans. So is goading allowed or is it not? What would've happened if some pissed guy had run on and lamped him one?

[Sir David Gray]

Dylan wasn't impressed with his challenge on him and said so in the EEN. As for the hand gesture, whether it upset folk or not isn't the point, the point is it was intended to and if he had done it in front of the east whose to say he wouldn't have got a 50p in the eye or worse and then we would have been in trouble ..... for that reason it was a 2nd yellow all day long, other players have been booked for less.

With Skacel its all about maintaining his love in with the Yams, which unfortunately for Raith Rovers means they are an afterthought to him .... if what he showed against us is typical of the way he plays for them I'm surprised he gets a game, he was rubbish.

This sums it up for me.

It's not about whether people were offended by it or not or a case of how sad people are to have been upset by it.

The fact is what he did was worthy of a booking and considering he had already been booked earlier in the match, he should have been sent off.

All you ask is that the referees are consistent.

[SGE HIBS]

The guys a weapon that deserves no attention .. Best days well behind him and hanging on for grim death for a bit attention.

Best thing to shut him up would have been to have hammered Raith

[SGE HIBS]

He was the 1st person to text me after the final whistle

His Mrs Laura is one of my laddies pals and there were a few texts sent so fair play to him .
Gonzo is a tosser though

[Mikey09]

This in a nutshell. I think the guy's just a pathetic twat and can't say I was overly upset by his gesture but, as I said on another thread, we're now 7 months into a seemingly never ending investigation for a supposed riot caused by us 'goading' The Rangers fans. So is goading allowed or is it not? What would've happened if some pissed guy had run on and lamped him one?


About 15,000 Folk would have pished themselves laughing...

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

That lunge could have easily have separated Dylans ankle if he hadn't got out of the way.

The rat knew exactly what he was doing given our current injuries.

[#FromTheCapital]

I thought it was a decent bit of banter. Time to lighten up a bit.

Aye, was pishin maself! What a character!!

[Galahibby]

About 15,000 Folk would have pished themselves laughing...

Haha, aye well there's also that I suppose, as well as a generous round of applause from myself :tee hee: There was a thread a couple of weeks ago though, about a crowd of pished guys in the West Lower who were getting a bit abusive. One of them gets wound up and decides to have a go at him, and it maybe doesn't end well for the Club. If he'd done it after he scored a goal (hypothetically, obviously :wink:) he would've got booked for it.

[Jim44]

Nothing wrong with a bit of good humoured spontaneous banter but this muppet treats it as a serious gesture intended to get a reaction Remember the time when that ugly wee Jambo runner tried to organise a taunting 5-1 gesture with Rudolph linked to race time a couple of years ago ....... pathetic.

[Hibby Bairn]

3 days on and the thread is still going strong.

It really is just a bit of banter. From wearing 51 on his shirt at Dundee Utd to giving it the Rudi messiah we're not worthy arm bowing. Our dull fitba needs characters. Like it of not Skacel brings a bit of banter (and edge) to games against us.

Made me smile when he went off on Saturday watching him and the reaction he provoked.

[pedroorange1875]

3 days on and the thread is still going strong.

It really is just a bit of banter. From wearing 51 on his shirt at Dundee Utd to giving it the Rudi messiah we're not worthy arm bowing. Our dull fitba needs characters. Like it of not Skacel brings a bit of banter (and edge) to games against us.

Made me smile when he went off on Saturday watching him and the reaction he provoked.

Im with you i thought it was a fantastic edge that he was kept on the park when should have been sent off, laughed heartily when the yellow was shown...I smiled from ear to ear remembering bookings for Griffiths with a compliance officer involved and Cummings not even leaving the field in celebrating a derby goal, whilst potential serious incitement was ignored coupled with the fact the Raith bench were indicated to by the ref to get him off before he got sent off....Strange even then no second yellow, but i chuckled into my Bovril

3 days later and no sign of the compliance officer....Who cares about banter...not me...but the laws of the game are a different matter.....chuckle

[Pretty Boy]

3 days on and the thread is still going strong.

It really is just a bit of banter. From wearing 51 on his shirt at Dundee Utd to giving it the Rudi messiah we're not worthy arm bowing. Our dull fitba needs characters. Like it of not Skacel brings a bit of banter (and edge) to games against us.

Made me smile when he went off on Saturday watching him and the reaction he provoked.

It's strange because a lot of people getting so wound up on this thread said events in May had put the 5-1 stuff to bed. The reaction to Skacels gesture suggests they are lying to themselves.

I get people being wound up by a cynical and dangerous tackle, not on and worthy of comment. Getting into a lather about a pantomine villain gesture and giving him the reaction and attention he craves? Pointless and disproves those in questions claims to the contrary that they 'are not bothered by it'.

[macca70]

Regardless if it's banter or not, it's just another example of the inconsistent application of the rules.

If that's Cummings putting in those challenges or gesturing to the fans then he's defo getting sent off.

Refs in this league are completely useless!! Or Scottish refs in general!!

The keepers blatant time wasting was driving me nuts, refs are so niaive!!

[JimBHibees]

Im with you i thought it was a fantastic edge that he was kept on the park when should have been sent off, laughed heartily when the yellow was shown...I smiled from ear to ear remembering bookings for Griffiths with a compliance officer involved and Cummings not even leaving the field in celebrating a derby goal, whilst potential serious incitement was ignored coupled with the fact the Raith bench were indicated to by the ref to get him off before he got sent off....Strange even then no second yellow, but i chuckled into my Bovril

3 days laterw and no sign of the compliance officer....Who cares about banter...not me...but the laws of the game are a different matter.....chuckle

is that right. Surely not.

[ALF TUPPER]

Dont take the bait guys. He set out to wind us up and its working.

He's an insignificant piece of yam filth. Let McGeoch and the rest of the team sort him out when we play them next. Our supporters ... ignore him. He'd hate that.

#GGTTH

[JimBHibees]

It's strange because a lot of people getting so wound up on this thread said events in May had put the 5-1 stuff to bed. The reaction to Skacels gesture suggests they are lying to themselves.

I get people being wound up by a cynical and dangerous tackle, not on and worthy of comment. Getting into a lather about a pantomine villain gesture and giving him the reaction and attention he craves? Pointless and disproves those in questions claims to the contrary that they 'are not bothered by it'.

Not bothered by his antics more bothered the ref chose to not punish him as he should have which may have got us 2 points we needed.

[High-On-Hibs]

About 15,000 Folk would have pished themselves laughing...

With chants of Rudolph the rednosed w****r to go along with it.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Here's what annoys me. David Gray scores in the last minute of the cup final and runs to his own fans to celebrate = booking.
Skacel takes a detour and makes gestures solely to antagonise people = no booking.

[hibsbollah]

The conclusion is, he was trying to wind us up and he succeeded. Ffs we won the cup. We ****ed the hearts songbook for ever. Why we give them the satisfaction of getting all vein popping about Skacel I have no idea.

[northstandhibby]

It's strange because a lot of people getting so wound up on this thread said events in May had put the 5-1 stuff to bed. The reaction to Skacels gesture suggests they are lying to themselves.

I get people being wound up by a cynical and dangerous tackle, not on and worthy of comment. Getting into a lather about a pantomine villain gesture and giving him the reaction and attention he craves? Pointless and disproves those in questions claims to the contrary that they 'are not bothered by it'.

I've never acknowledged the 5-1 game purely because they were clearly playing players they could never have afforded without going into administration and they only avoided liquidation by the skin of their teeth.

In contrast we won the Cup Roy of the Rovers style and capped it off by humiliating the yams twice with the best ever 2-2 comeback and then beat Robbie Replay's team and went on to win it.

:lolyam:

2 nil and they f****d it up, 2 nil and they f****d it up.

[EastCalderHibby]

Cant be arsed with all this ( ITS ONLY BANTER ***** )The 5 1 yes but the tackles on mc Geough and young martin
were deliberately out to hurt them guy's a total bignosed tramp :jamboclow

[Sir David Gray]

It's strange because a lot of people getting so wound up on this thread said events in May had put the 5-1 stuff to bed. The reaction to Skacels gesture suggests they are lying to themselves.

I get people being wound up by a cynical and dangerous tackle, not on and worthy of comment. Getting into a lather about a pantomine villain gesture and giving him the reaction and attention he craves? Pointless and disproves those in questions claims to the contrary that they 'are not bothered by it'.

The problem I have is mainly with the referee. He should have received a second booking as he was being subbed on Saturday as what he did was a bookable offence.

I expect that type of nonsense from him, much like that other clown Nade and his similar antics last season. At least Skacel actually played in the cup final though.

[pedroorange1875]

is that right. Surely not.

Absolutely.. Saw the gesturing to the bench and Locke... Disgraceful refereeing throughout all his incidents.. Mcgeough tackle right in front of me.. Red all day long

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

It's strange because a lot of people getting so wound up on this thread said events in May had put the 5-1 stuff to bed. The reaction to Skacels gesture suggests they are lying to themselves.

I get people being wound up by a cynical and dangerous tackle, not on and worthy of comment. Getting into a lather about a pantomine villain gesture and giving him the reaction and attention he craves? Pointless and disproves those in questions claims to the contrary that they 'are not bothered by it'.

Totally disagree. 5-1 doesn't bother me at all after last May but I'm still raging that he wasn't sent off for his antics leaving the field. What he did is a yellow card offence every day of the week. Them going down to 10 men at that stage might have allowed us to break them down and get the win, we'll never know but it might have. I'd be saying the same if he had kicked the ball away, wasted time or jumped the advertising boards after scoring. They are all yellow card offences and should be punished as such. Folk aren't getting wound up about what he did with his bandaged up hands, they are annoyed at the ref clearly bottling a decision that would have given us a big advantage for the final 15 mins of the game. Lost count how many players we've had punished for less in the last few seasons. Zero consistency yet again.

[Pretty Boy]

The problem I have is mainly with the referee. He should have received a second booking as he was being subbed on Saturday as what he did was a bookable offence.

I expect that type of nonsense from him, much like that other clown Nade and his similar antics last season. At least Skacel actually played in the cup final though.

Is that not just refs showing the 'common sense' we always want them to? Most refs at a decent level will have a word along the lines of 'calm him down before I come over' when it comes to things like this.

I wonder if, hypothetically speaking, Jason Cummings gave a '3-2' at Ibrox and wasn't booked how many Hibs fans would be calling on the ref to book him in the interests of fairness.

It seems everyone wants the 'good old days' when the game had 'characters' until it doesn't suit them then they want red and yellow cards dished out and the rules applied to the letter.

[Velma Dinkley]

Is that not just refs showing the 'common sense' we always want them to? Most refs at a decent level will have a word along the lines of 'calm him down before I come over' when it comes to things like this.

I wonder if, hypothetically speaking, Jason Cummings gave a '3-2' at Ibrox and wasn't booked how many Hibs fans would be calling on the ref to book him in the interests of fairness.

It seems everyone wants the 'good old days' when the game had 'characters' until it doesn't suit them then they want red and yellow cards dished out and the rules applied to the letter.

Jason Cummings has been booked for making gestures to the fans, which people have repeatedly pointed out on this thread. All referees at any level need to apply the rules to everyone. If a Hibs player gets carded, sent off and ultimately banned for doing something an opposition player doesn't even get cautioned for its obviously going to irritate Hibs fans.

[hibsbollah]

Is that not just refs showing the 'common sense' we always want them to? Most refs at a decent level will have a word along the lines of 'calm him down before I come over' when it comes to things like this.

I wonder if, hypothetically speaking, Jason Cummings gave a '3-2' at Ibrox and wasn't booked how many Hibs fans would be calling on the ref to book him in the interests of fairness.

It seems everyone wants the 'good old days' when the game had 'characters' until it doesn't suit them then they want red and yellow cards dished out and the rules applied to the letter.

:agree:

[Sir David Gray]

Is that not just refs showing the 'common sense' we always want them to? Most refs at a decent level will have a word along the lines of 'calm him down before I come over' when it comes to things like this.

I wonder if, hypothetically speaking, Jason Cummings gave a '3-2' at Ibrox and wasn't booked how many Hibs fans would be calling on the ref to book him in the interests of fairness.

It seems everyone wants the 'good old days' when the game had 'characters' until it doesn't suit them then they want red and yellow cards dished out and the rules applied to the letter.

Derek Riordan was booked for giving the Hearts fans the GIRUY gesture as he left the field to a chorus of jeers against them a few years ago, Leigh Griffiths was retrospectively banned a few years ago as well for gesturing to his own fans.

All I ask for is a bit of consistency and it didn't happen on Saturday. The referee didn't even have a word along the lines of 'calm him down before I come over' either. He did nothing at all. He didn't do anything with Barr either, despite his antics.

And if Jason Cummings did do a 3-2 gesture at Ibrox the next time we play them then of course I would enjoy it at the time but I would fully expect him to be punished for doing so and I would be shocked if he wasn't dealt with, if not at the time by the match referee then at least retrospectively by the compliance officer.

[Sir David Gray]

Jason Cummings has been booked for making gestures to the fans, which people have repeatedly pointed out on this thread. All referees at any level need to apply the rules to everyone. If a Hibs player gets carded, sent off and ultimately banned for doing something an opposition player doesn't even get cautioned for its obviously going to irritate Hibs fans.

Correct, I honestly can't understand how people don't get this.

[hibsbollah]

Derek Riordan was booked for giving the Hearts fans the GIRUY gesture as he left the field to a chorus of jeers against them a few years ago.

No he wasn't. He had already got a red card for kicking Skacel in a tantrum because we were 2-0 down when he did the GIRU to the hearts fans.

[CropleyWasGod]

No he wasn't. He had already got a red card for kicking Skacel in a tantrum because we were 2-0 down when he did the GIRU to the hearts fans.
2 different games.

He got booked for the GIRUY.

He got sent off for halfing Skacel.

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[Paisley Hibby]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ctXtiXgAUlio7.jpg

To be honest I laughed out loud at this picture, it is pretty funny, he looks like a cheeky wee boy pissing off alot of grown men.

It is pretty sad that it was a while ago now and that he is playing for Raith Rovers, also the fact we currently own the cup he is referring too. What's sadder though are the people who are crying about it.

Me too. His antics are entertaining and we can afford to laugh as he no longer presents any threat to us in a football sense. It's Raith fans who should be raging at him. More interested in winding us up than doing a job for them. A waste of a wage for a club which can ill afford it.

[hibsbollah]

2 different games.

He got booked for the GIRUY.

He got sent off for halfing Skacel.

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Aye apologies, (and to falkirkhibs) there were a few similar occasions involving the same pair :greengrin Coin throwing andcalling Skacel a ****ing refugee were the common denominators on both occasions. (although this has nothing to do with him hating us, apparently).

[Sir David Gray]

No he wasn't. He had already got a red card for kicking Skacel in a tantrum because we were 2-0 down when he did the GIRU to the hearts fans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/7824081.stm

[RoxburghHibs]

calling Skacel a ****ing refugee were the common denominators on both occasions. (although this has nothing to do with him hating us, apparently).

Not sure why you keep banging on about this and trying to defend the sad low life that is skacel?

He hates us cause he is a total fud - end of story. Has done so since the first derby when we had no idea who he was.

[hibsbollah]

He hates us cause he is a total fud - end of story. Has done so since the first derby when we had no idea who he was.

That isn't really plausible but you're entitled to your opinion of course.

[RoxburghHibs]

That isn't really plausible but you're entitled to your opinion of course.

What isn't plausible and why do you feel the need to defend Mr anti-Hibs all the time?

You're wrong is that plausible enough for you?

[hibsbollah]

What isn't plausible and why do you feel the need to defend Mr anti-Hibs all the time?

You're wrong is that plausible enough for you?

You seem angry.

[RoxburghHibs]

You seem angry.

You seem confused 😝

[Marco G]

That isn't really plausible but you're entitled to your opinion of course.
Seems like a good plausible theory to me too. He is a guy who has had a brief bit of glory, in his opinion, and has gone downhill ever since. These games against us are the only chance he has to try to revive his memories, while we can all see that he is a sad, over the hill and washed up, has been.

[hibsbollah]

You seem confused 😝

About your anger? I assumed you just had a below average festive period.

[RoxburghHibs]

About your anger? I assumed you just had a below average festive period.

Are you drunk? Hope so cause you are talking nonsense (or maybe you are just a tad odd like your pal Skacel 😉).

So stop deflecting and explain what about my post wasn't plausible or have you already forgotten?

[northstandhibby]

Seems like a good plausible theory to me too. He is a guy who has had a brief bit of glory, in his opinion, and has gone downhill ever since. These games against us are the only chance he has to try to revive his memories, while we can all see that he is a sad, over the hill and washed up, has been.


https://youtu.be/H6_MDRj_9ZY

He's not even a has been he's a never was.

The Yams couldn't afford to pay players like him and because of hiring him and others on wages they could never afford they were placed into administration because of it not long after. Almost as bad as Murray's huns!!!

Lowlife cheats. They ran up colossal debts that were never going to be paid back. Financial doping.

That's why I refuse to acknowledge their cheated to cup win against us. Never won fairly and therefore does not register.

Glory Glory

[hibsbollah]

Are you drunk? Hope so cause you are talking nonsense (or maybe you are just a tad odd like your pal Skacel 😉).

So stop deflecting and explain what about my post wasn't plausible or have you already forgotten?

You said 'he hates us cos he is a total fud-end of story'.

I think this is implausible because there is a great deal more to it than that. Our players and him have had repeated bust-ups on the pitch, our fans have sung the refugee song which he has said he took exception to, and the Leigh Griffiths and Riordan sing songs took it to a very public level.

Its not complicated.

[Shrekko]

Really surprised to see Skacel being defended anywhere on here.

Generally agree that fans need to take a bit back from players and there are some real pantomime villains like Stevie Fulton and Jamie Hamill that have been good value, but Skacel is a low life with real hatred and bitterness towards Hibs.

The way he has disrespected Dundee United and now Raith is criminal and his current employers should be seeing him for what he is.

It's also true that he started the hateful relationship with his bizarre celebration in front of Hibs fans during his first derby, when he had 15,000 Hearts fans to celebrate with. I didn't agree with the refugee chant but he made a point of trying to be our number 1 enemy. That's the type of character he is and I'm amazed even the Jambos swallow it. When he still had value he left them in double quick time twice and only ever went back when he needed a home. He even took expenses from Save our Hearts, to come across and make a few guest appearances in pubs when surely he could have afforded a couple of flights from Prague after the money he'd taken from the club?! Horrible and pathetic human being who was a very decent player at SPL level once but nothing more.

[RoxburghHibs]

You said 'he hates us cos he is a total fud-end of story'.

I think this is implausible because there is a great deal more to it than that. Our players and him have had repeated bust-ups on the pitch, our fans have sung the refugee song which he has said he took exception to, and the Leigh Griffiths and Riordan sing songs took it to a very public level.

Its not complicated.

So why did he hate us before all this (first derby)and why are you his pal?

Think your theory falls into the "not plausible" or even "not possible" category.

[RoxburghHibs]

Really surprised to see Skacel being defended anywhere on here.

Generally agree that fans need to take a bit back from players and there are some real pantomime villains like Stevie Fulton and Jamie Hamill that have been good value, but Skacel is a low life with real hatred and bitterness towards Hibs.

The way he has disrespected Dundee United and now Raith is criminal and his current employers should be seeing him for what he is.

It's also true that he started the hateful relationship with his bizarre celebration in front of Hibs fans during his first derby, when he had 15,000 Hearts fans to celebrate with. I didn't agree with the refugee chant but he made a point of trying to be our number 1 enemy. That's the type of character he is and I'm amazed even the Jambos swallow it. When he still had value he left them in double quick time twice and only ever went back when he needed a home. He even took expenses from Save our Hearts, to come across and make a few guest appearances in pubs when surely he could have afforded a couple of flights from Prague after the money he'd taken from the club?! Horrible and pathetic human being who was a very decent player at SPL level once but nothing more.


Spot on buddy

[hibsbollah]

Really surprised to see Skacel being defended anywhere on here.

Generally agree that fans need to take a bit back from players and there are some real pantomime villains like Stevie Fulton and Jamie Hamill that have been good value, but Skacel is a low life with real hatred and bitterness towards Hibs.

The way he has disrespected Dundee United and now Raith is criminal and his current employers should be seeing him for what he is.

It's also true that he started the hateful relationship with his bizarre celebration in front of Hibs fans during his first derby, when he had 15,000 Hearts fans to celebrate with. I didn't agree with the refugee chant but he made a point of trying to be our number 1 enemy. That's the type of character he is and I'm amazed even the Jambos swallow it. When he still had value he left them in double quick time twice and only ever went back when he needed a home. He even took expense from Save our Hearts, to come across and make a few quest appearances in pubs when surely he could have afforded a couple of flights from Prague after the money he'd taken from the club?! Horrible and pathetic human being who was a very decent player at SPL level once but nothing more.

There's a difference between defending someone and putting things in context. 'I didn't agree with the refugee chant but he made a point of trying to be our number one enemy'...doesnt make much sense to me. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

[hibsbollah]

why are you his pal?



:rolleyes:
Aye OK.

[RoxburghHibs]

There's a difference between defending someone and putting things in context. 'I didn't agree with the refugee chant but he made a point of trying to be our number one enemy'...doesnt make much sense to me. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

Nobody is defending that chant - it's horrid - but you are defending his actions which are wrong. He created this relationship with Hibernian not the other way around. As you would say "it's not complicated ".

So spill the beans....come on tell us the real reason why you are going OTT to defend such a low life. Are you Rudolph maybe?

[oldbutdim]

He's a stupid wee man.
Carrying on the way he does has no effect on most folk who just shrug their shoulders at his antics.
But for every hundred or so Gunts who masturbate themselves into a frenzy over the self important saddo, there will be a Hibby who will see fit to giving him a sore one.
Hopefully he will remain a ****stain rather than having a Hibby punished for reacting to his pantomime villainy.

[Shrekko]

There's a difference between defending someone and putting things in context. 'I didn't agree with the refugee chant but he made a point of trying to be our number one enemy'...doesnt make much sense to me. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

The chant was 100% wrong but I'm only making the point that the hate/hate relationship was already well underway at that point and that was driven mainly by the player. Despite how vile it was I'm not sure we can say that it's the reason he hates us- he'd already decided that he wanted to anyway. He rightly didn't like it (the song) but most of us didn't like it either.

Hearts had lots of new players from new countries when he arrived and none of them made a point of trying to enflame opposition fans like he did.

[Onion]

Headline in todays Daily Ranger "After Hearts hero Rudi Skacel winds up Hibs fans we look at the stars who just can't forget about their old club"

So, this was a simple "wind up", whereas Hibs fans casting similar gestures at Sevco fans is "goading" and deserving of a violent reaction. :confused:

[northstandhibby]

Headline in todays Daily Ranger "After Hearts hero Rudi Skacel winds up Hibs fans we look at the stars who just can't forget about their old club"

So, this was a simple "wind up", whereas Hibs fans casting similar gestures at Sevco fans is "goading" and deserving of a violent reaction. :confused:

Please tell me you didn't pay money for that horrible rag?

Glory Glory

[where'stheslope]

Once again we lose the plot over a washed up player?

What he did in the 5-1 gesture was a pure wind up, and by looking on here its worked 100%?

If we are sitting in seats shouting at him in the dugout, we are not backing the team on the park, end off!

These people who do wind ups don't do it for gratification, they do it to break up the game.

So next time turn away shout for the team and only person with egg on face is him!

[Pete]

Once again we lose the plot over a washed up player?

What he did in the 5-1 gesture was a pure wind up, and by looking on here its worked 100%?

If we are sitting in seats shouting at him in the dugout, we are not backing the team on the park, end off!

These people who do wind ups don't do it for gratification, they do it to break up the game.

So next time turn away shout for the team and only person with egg on face is him!

I don't think anyone has really "lost the plot" or was wound up simply by the gesture.

[O'Rourke3]

I don't think anyone has really "lost the plot" or was wound up simply by the gesture.
I wasnt wound up. I did beleive he should have been booked though.

Sent via the bushes @ EM

[Onion]

Please tell me you didn't pay money for that horrible rag?

Glory Glory

Should have made it clear, an online headline. Links are prohibited to avoid injury, insult or contamination of .net.

[northstandhibby]

Should have made it clear, an online headline. Links are prohibited to avoid injury, insult or contamination of .net.

And rightly so!!! :agree:

:thumbsup:

[nonshinyfinish]

Skacel is tragic. Ignoring him is a kindness.

[JimBHibees]

So assuming no compliance officer action once again strange double standards.

[emerald green]

Correct, I honestly can't understand how people don't get this.

Me neither. Yet some seem to be going out of their way to defend and/or excuse Skacel's actions. Very odd.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

So assuming no compliance officer action once again strange double standards.

I fully expected action to have been taken by now since it wasn't at the time.

[where'stheslope]

I fully expected action to have been taken by now since it wasn't at the time.

Quoted in the papers this morning that the Compliance Officer is on holiday?

This could only happen in Scotland, he goes on holiday when the games are coming thick and fast over the Festive Period?

When he comes back, the Premiership is on a four week winter break!

Plus, he only works Monday to Friday?

Yet most games are played Saturday and Sunday????

[CropleyWasGod]

Quoted in the papers this morning that the Compliance Officer is on holiday?

This could only happen in Scotland, he goes on holiday when the games are coming thick and fast over the Festive Period?

When he comes back, the Premiership is on a four week winter break!

Plus, he only works Monday to Friday?

Yet most games are played Saturday and Sunday????
Why would he need to work Saturday and Sunday?
If he works on a Monday, he has the opportunity to review all of the weekend's games. A much more efficient use of his time IMO.

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[Hermit Crab]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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[greenlex]

So Rudi is off Scot free after gesturing to opposition fans and winding them up but Police Scotland are still investigating and chasing Hibs fans for the same " offence" . Have I got this correct?

[tamig]

So Rudi is off Scot free after gesturing to opposition fans and winding them up but Police Scotland are still investigating and chasing Hibs fans for the same " offence" . Have I got this correct?

Are the Hibs fans not being chased for alleged acts of violence? Whatever that covers.

[GreenOnions]

FFS I think we just need to man-up and stop moaning. Some of our fans started it on Skacel with a vile, racist song and he gives it back. IMO that is legitimate on his part. That's what happens. Let it go.

The people who have a real right to be annoyed are the management and players of Skacel's current club. If Hibs had a player in their team who made it clear that he is pre-occupied with a love for a different club and a hatred for another I would be pretty annoyed. I would be even more upset if he let that carry on onto the pitch and allowed it to affect his game thus letting down his team-mates and manager.

I understand the point about comparisons with police treatment of this and the Scottish Cup Final but I don't think it's as clear-cut as some make out. The Scottish Cup Final is a major national showpiece event and some fans from both sides embarrassed themselves, their clubs and Scotland with their behaviour. As far as I can see it is fans from both clubs who are being charged for criminal damage and violence so there is no direct link between those charges and Skacel's actions.

Skacel does appear to be a bit of a t*t but that's not a crime. It's Raith Rovers who are the victims here - not Hibs. They should demand professionalism and loyalty from their player and get him to stamp it out.

[QMU-1875]

Who cares he's an irrelevance. Giving him what he wants. Close thread please.

[WoreTheGreen]

A total irrelevance a waste of oxygen. A really sad pathetic attention seeking rat mugging RR off embarrasing to watch

[greenlex]

FFS I think we just need to man-up and stop moaning. Some of our fans started it on Skacel with a vile, racist song and he gives it back. IMO that is legitimate on his part. That's what happens. Let it go.

The people who have a real right to be annoyed are the management and players of Skacel's current club. If Hibs had a player in their team who made it clear that he is pre-occupied with a love for a different club and a hatred for another I would be pretty annoyed. I would be even more upset if he let that carry on onto the pitch and allowed it to affect his game thus letting down his team-mates and manager.

I understand the point about comparisons with police treatment of this and the Scottish Cup Final but I don't think it's as clear-cut as some make out. The Scottish Cup Final is a major national showpiece event and some fans from both sides embarrassed themselves, their clubs and Scotland with their behaviour. As far as I can see it is fans from both clubs who are being charged for criminal damage and violence so there is no direct link between those charges and Skacel's actions.

Skacel does appear to be a bit of a t*t but that's not a crime. It's Raith Rovers who are the victims here - not Hibs. They should demand professionalism and loyalty from their player and get him to stamp it out. There are Hibs fans in court charged with gesticulating to rangers fans and not actual violence. Being on the pitch is not a criminal offence so it can't be for that.

[GreenOnions]

There are Hibs fans in court charged with gesticulating to rangers fans and not actual violence. Being on the pitch is not a criminal offence so it can't be for that.

Maybe. If that is the case I'd say that was a bit harsh - although I have little sympathy I have to say.

The main point from me re Skacel though is the fact that the antipathy between him and Hibs was started by some Hibs fans in a particularly ugly way. When Skacel bites back is that not understandable? Those Hibs fans need to be able to take it if they want to give it out.

Sometimes we should leave the law out of it and use common sense. Raith Rovers have a right to expect more professionalism from their player and, if they ensure that, then the situation will resolve itself.

[Billy Whizz]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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Used to quite like Raith as a club, but this is taking it too far.

[northstandhibby]

Used to quite like Raith as a club, but this is taking it too far.

Can't be right surely? Are Raith really attempting to suck money out of Yams by getting that piece of turd and Locke to do a Q and A session for twats that pay £120.

If so it's obviously aimed at Yams for the turd to have a go at the Hi bees.

What a rip off and a dishonorable act by Raith towards us.

Dearie me, a new low in what is Scottish Fitba!!!

:yawn:

Glory Glory to the Hi bees.

[Carheenlea]

Raith fans must be livid with their club and this pandering to Hearts. Their club has a great tie to look forward to, but they come out with this guff for what - a few hundred quid?

[A Hi-Bee]

Who cares he's an irrelevance. Giving him what he wants. Close thread please.

Hear, hear to the above, and while I am at it, just seems like yesterday when I was standing in the dump around gorgie way that masqurades as a football stadium, and we were 5 up (going on 8) by half time, bumping into some old school pals as we wound our way around the other end and they just happened to be jambos, one of them even refused my kind offer of a nip from my half bottle, once a fud always a fud.
It should really have been ten (10) and they had not a bad team at the time having only conceded some 3 goals in x amount of games untill they met the class of 1973 Hibernian F.C. so really nothing that they fuds can come up with could possibly compare, F..k them all I say.
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[21.05.2016]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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Absolute boak. What a cringeworthy attempt to sook up to the tramps.

[Sir David Gray]

Maybe. If that is the case I'd say that was a bit harsh - although I have little sympathy I have to say.

The main point from me re Skacel though is the fact that the antipathy between him and Hibs was started by some Hibs fans in a particularly ugly way. When Skacel bites back is that not understandable? Those Hibs fans need to be able to take it if they want to give it out.

Sometimes we should leave the law out of it and use common sense. Raith Rovers have a right to expect more professionalism from their player and, if they ensure that, then the situation will resolve itself.

No it wasn't.

And, once again, at the risk of repeating myself, the issue that people like me had was with the referee. We have come to expect that sort of behaviour from Skacel but when it happens, I would also expect the referee to stick to the laws of the game. What he did last week when being subbed should have resulted in him receiving a second yellow card. When that didn't happen, it should have been picked up by the compliance officer.

That neither of these things happened is out of order and I'll expect the same treatment to be given to Jason Cummings, should he find himself in a similar situation at some point.

[GreenOnions]

No it wasn't.

And, once again, at the risk of repeating myself, the issue that people like me had was with the referee. We have come to expect that sort of behaviour from Skacel but when it happens, I would also expect the referee to stick to the laws of the game. What he did last week when being subbed should have resulted in him receiving a second yellow card. When that didn't happen, it should have been picked up by the compliance officer.

That neither of these things happened is out of order and I'll expect the same treatment to be given to Jason Cummings, should he find himself in a similar situation at some point.

We disagree. Fair enough.

The reason you're repeating yourself to me though is that you're ignoring the main point in my original post (i.e. Raith Rovers are actually the victims here rather than Hibs) and continuing the theme you prefer to focus on - which is how unfair everything is. I have no problem with that but it's not my fault you choose to return to it.

I merely pointed out initially that generally in life things are more complicated than one person is to blame for everything. Skacel is clearly an idiot and I'd like to see us hammer any team he plays for but I can understand his dislike for Hibs.

[RoxburghHibs]

I can understand his dislike for Hibs.

I can't understand his dislike of Hibernian? As pointed out many times, by various posters, Skacel had a dislike off Hibs fans from the first time he played against us - before we had any idea what a sad fud he is. Many other foreign players have come and gone without feeling the need to antagonise opposition supporters but for some weird reason (and I do find him a weirdo) Skacel just had this mentality from the off. Was always going to result in us disliking him back.

[21.05.2016]

I can't understand his dislike of Hibernian? As pointed out many times, by various posters, Skacel had a dislike off Hibs fans from the first time he played against us - before we had any idea what a sad fud he is. Many other foreign players have come and gone without feeling the need to antagonise opposition supporters but for some weird reason (and I do find him a weirdo) Skacel just had this mentality from the off. Was always going to result in us disliking him back.

He had the dislike from the off because he knew the best way to sook up to the hearts support was to show a hate towards hibs. As i mentioned above, Skacel is a hibs hater more than a hearts lover.

[RoxburghHibs]

He had the dislike from the off because he knew the best way to sook up to the hearts support was to show a hate towards hibs. As i mentioned above, Skacel is a hibs hater more than a hearts lover.

Agree totally 👍🏼

[GreenOnions]

I can't understand his dislike of Hibernian? As pointed out many times, by various posters, Skacel had a dislike off Hibs fans from the first time he played against us - before we had any idea what a sad fud he is. Many other foreign players have come and gone without feeling the need to antagonise opposition supporters but for some weird reason (and I do find him a weirdo) Skacel just had this mentality from the off. Was always going to result in us disliking him back.

Do you consider singing what many consider to be a racist song about Skacel to be a reasonable and proportionate response to any pre-existing dislike? Do you also think that singing that song didn't escalate matters?

[Dr Jimmy]

He had the dislike from the off because he knew the best way to sook up to the hearts support was to show a hate towards hibs. As i mentioned above, Skacel is a hibs hater more than a hearts lover.

Exactly.
He is the modern(ish) equivalent of the badge kisser. Here today in love with the club, gone tomorrow when anyone offers more money. In his case it was Southampton.

[JimBHibees]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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How many tickets you buying?

[RoxburghHibs]

Do you consider singing what many consider to be a racist song about Skacel to be a reasonable and proportionate response to any pre-existing dislike? Do you also think that singing that song didn't escalate matters?

As posted by me previously that song is awful and shouldn't be sung. The real question is why are you hell bent on defending the weirdo?

[GreenOnions]

As posted by me previously that song is awful and shouldn't be sung. The real question is why are you hell bent on defending the weirdo?

Ha, ha - good question. It's not easy by the way. I really hope we demolish Raith the next time we play them with Rudi getting his marching orders for diving three minutes after deflecting a cross into his own net for our opening goal :greengrin

[RoxburghHibs]

Ha, ha - good question. It's not easy by the way. I really hope we demolish Raith the next time we play them with Rudi getting his marching orders for diving three minutes after deflecting a cross into his own net for our opening goal :greengrin

A good question that you can't answer 🤔

Anyway this thread is going round in circles. In summary..

Rudi weirdo Skacel took to winding up Hibs fans from the off (before we had a clue who he was). This clearly was always going to result in him getting pelters from the Hibs fans. So anyone attempting to lay any of the blame for this with the Hibs fans is in a word wrong.

Hope you are right about the next meeting 😁

[PatHead]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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Don't blame raith for milking it. Good chance for a well run club to make some money.

[Dashing Bob S]

Don't blame raith for milking it. Good chance for a well run club to make some money.

Those morons have been walking around with 'fleece me' signs round their necks for years. Their own club has ruthlessly taken advantage of this. Budge 'buy me the club under fan ownership' and 'build me a new stand with debentures' so why shouldn't others get in on the act?

If they want to play at ER while building the new stand Petrie should install maroon collection boxes and tell them it's for some former Hearts players war orphans poppy charity embezzlement fund.

[Biggie]

Hear, hear to the above, and while I am at it, just seems like yesterday when I was standing in the dump around gorgie way that masqurades as a football stadium, and we were 5 up (going on 8) by half time, bumping into some old school pals as we wound our way around the other end and they just happened to be jambos, one of them even refused my kind offer of a nip from my half bottle, once a fud always a fud.
It should really have been ten (10) and they had not a bad team at the time having only conceded some 3 goals in x amount of games untill they met the class of 1973 Hibernian F.C. so really nothing that they fuds can come up with could possibly compare, F..k them all I say.
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It's 44 😏

[Mikey09]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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Match Ticket- £20
Programme- £3
Champagne- £4
Bacon Roll- £2
3 course meal- £25

A bargain at £120!! Just as well the Yams are ***** at adding up eh?!

[Sir David Gray]

Match Ticket- £20
Programme- £3
Champagne- £4
Bacon Roll- £2
3 course meal- £25

A bargain at £120!! Just as well the Yams are ***** at adding up eh?!

That's just the pre-match stuff, there's the post-match events as well included in the £120.

Personally you couldn't pay me enough to attend anything that involves Gary Locke and Rudi Skacel but each to their own.

[Pete]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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Question 1 to the both of you:

Who are the Scottish cup holders?

[HappyHanlon]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

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Wow!

Always suspected some affiliation between Raith and the charity robbers!

[O'Rourke3]

I know a couple of Rovers fans who will be sickened by this Hospitality package. Probably means RS won't even play against his former donators to ensure he's fit for the Q&A. Real value foe money this boy....

[GreenOnions]

(To RoxburghHibs) Do you consider singing what many consider to be a racist song about Skacel to be a reasonable and proportionate response to any pre-existing dislike? Do you also think that singing that song didn't escalate matters?


As posted by me previously that song is awful and shouldn't be sung. The real question is why are you hell bent on defending the weirdo?


Rudi weirdo Skacel took to winding up Hibs fans from the off (before we had a clue who he was). This clearly was always going to result in him getting pelters from the Hibs fans. So anyone attempting to lay any of the blame for this with the Hibs fans is in a word wrong.

Sorry RoxburghHibs but I can't help pointing out the above sequence :tee hee:

So - to answer your earlier question about why I have given Skacel some slack in this thread: Well - I like to think that people should always consider the possibility that there might be two sides to any story before they form a full opinion and I was speculating regarding what Skacel's might be in this situation.

You seem to have done that and then just completely ignored your own conclusion :wink:

This is a very interesting technique

[mjhibby]

A good question that you can't answer 🤔

Anyway this thread is going round in circles. In summary..

Rudi weirdo Skacel took to winding up Hibs fans from the off (before we had a clue who he was). This clearly was always going to result in him getting pelters from the Hibs fans. So anyone attempting to lay any of the blame for this with the Hibs fans is in a word wrong.

Hope you are right about the next meeting 😁

Can't say he bothers me in the slightest. Seems a sad excuse of a player and the 51 shirt at utd showed he is living in the past. Don't think he contributes anything to the raith team and is a wage thief if ever there was one. Btw does he know who won the Scottish cup on may 21. Maybe he was out of the country when we won the holy grail.

[Hermit Crab]

How many tickets you buying?


Depends how many you want.....

[Hermit Crab]

Match Ticket- £20
Programme- £3
Champagne- £4
Bacon Roll- £2
3 course meal- £25

A bargain at £120!! Just as well the Yams are ***** at adding up eh?!

These doughnuts will pay that. £120 plus you have to buy their own drink, I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of the price is going to Skacel as an appearance fee.

[21.05.2016]

I know a couple of Rovers fans who will be sickened by this Hospitality package. Probably means RS won't even play against his former donators to ensure he's fit for the Q&A. Real value foe money this boy....

It'll be one big skacel hearts drool over fest. Skacel wont give a **** about Raith, it'll all be about sooking up to the tramps in the away end. Just like when he played for utd against them.

[O'Rourke3]

It'll be one big skacel hearts drool over fest. Skacel wont give a **** about Raith, it'll all be about sooking up to the tramps in the away end. Just like when he played for utd against them.

Maybe a bargain. Apparently Tattoo Man has also just joined Rovers. Be a threefur...

[Sir David Gray]

Maybe a bargain. Apparently Tattoo Man has also just joined Rovers. Be a threefur...

He has and is playing today.

As an aside, Nade has resigned for Dumbarton so expect another 5-1 taunt in a few weeks when we go through there.

[221000]

Another big contribution from Skacel for Raith today, seeing him subbed after 57 minutes in a home 2-0 defeat to the Pars. Such a shame.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Another big contribution from Skacel for Raith today, seeing him subbed after 57 minutes in a home 2-0 defeat to the Pars. Such a shame.

Big cheer when he went off apparently


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[Capt Mainwaring]

Another big contribution from Skacel for Raith today, seeing him subbed after 57 minutes in a home 2-0 defeat to the Pars. Such a shame.

Match report outlines substitution made for the " ineffective Skacel". Not the first time those words used this season!

[CallumLaidlaw]

Match report outlines substitution made for the " ineffective Skacel". Not the first time those words used this season!

All he's done all season is the 5-1 gesture


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[greenpaper55]

Another big contribution from Skacel for Raith today, seeing him subbed after 57 minutes in a home 2-0 defeat to the Pars. Such a shame.

His nose went off two minutes before him !

[JimBHibees]

It'll be one big skacel hearts drool over fest. Skacel wont give a **** about Raith, it'll all be about sooking up to the tramps in the away end. Just like when he played for utd against them.

The ideal of course would be Raith beat Hearts with rudolf having played no part and he then turns up to the financial doping jerk fest.

[dchibs]

Wow!

Always suspected some affiliation between Raith and the charity robbers!

Cant be including vat the yams don't pay vat.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I see their hospitality package for the cup game features a Q and A with Skacel after the game.... Me thinks lots of 1-5 comfort photos will be taken. £120 a head with a pay bar!!! The game will be rigged anyway. Locke and co will lie down to them anyway.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170101/b8e81dd0133fa2499d88df403ca2e814.png

Can't see too many raith fans wanting to pay for this over priced Jambo love-in

[RoxburghHibs]

Sorry RoxburghHibs but I can't help pointing out the above sequence :tee hee:

So - to answer your earlier question about why I have given Skacel some slack in this thread: Well - I like to think that people should always consider the possibility that there might be two sides to any story before they form a full opinion and I was speculating regarding what Skacel's might be in this situation.

You seem to have done that and then just completely ignored your own conclusion :wink:

This is a very interesting technique


Firstly let me say I have no problem with Yams defending Skacel - they are a perfect fit after all.

As for the three posts you have highlighted WTF are you on about? I can only assume you are reading a meaning into them that isn't there. Let me be crystal clear about this 'Skacel created the relationship he has with the Hibernian support not the other way round' - this may have been mentioned by me and others once or twice already. :wink:

That song you seem to keep bringing up as being a reason for Skacel's dislike of Hibs is nonsense. Put it this way if that song had never been sung Skacel's sad weird actions would be exactly the same as they are now - they certainly were before the song was belted out.

[heretoday]

Ah get over this Skacel.

Are we all wee stupid numpties?

Easy to wind up any road.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

My Raith supporting pal told me back in August that Skacel's wages were being paid by a local businessman as he was being paid far more than Raith could afford. Not sure if true or not but even more ridiculous if he's picking up a half decent wage for his lame contributions on the pitch so far.

The guy certainly likes to get his money's worth out of folk. I would agree with the poster above who suggests he may be getting a cut from this Q&A. There's surely no other way it could be £120 for hospitality in some Kirkcaldy hotel with the bar not included.

[A Hi-Bee]

It's 44 😏

How time fly's eh, 44 years after awe and still seems like yesterday. :flag:

[Famous Fiver]

Wonder if he threw his jersey into the crowd today?

Didn't take long for Karma to catch up with him. Pity it wasn't the 51st minute he was hooked.

Wage thief.

[GreenOnions]

Firstly let me say I have no problem with Yams defending Skacel - they are a perfect fit after all.

As for the three posts you have highlighted WTF are you on about? I can only assume you are reading a meaning into them that isn't there. Let me be crystal clear about this 'Skacel created the relationship he has with the Hibernian support not the other way round' - this may have been mentioned by me and others once or twice already. :wink:

That song you seem to keep bringing up as being a reason for Skacel's dislike of Hibs is nonsense. Put it this way if that song had never been sung Skacel's sad weird actions would be exactly the same as they are now - they certainly were before the song was belted out.

I'm just posing questions. The reason for that is because I don't know Skacel's side of the story. You have either spoken to Skacel himself about this or you only know one side of the argument. You've made up your mind without asking these questions. That's your prerogative but I think it makes it much more likely that your opinion will not be an informed one.

I know you have made some of your points more than once but I'm afraid that doesn't make those things true. They are just your views.

I do not dispute that Skacel has always shown an antipathy towards Hibs and acted-up when he's played against us. Let's face it though - he wouldn't be the first player who seems to enjoy winding up opposition players and fans - particularly local rivals.

These players are often loved by their own fans but hated by those of all other clubs. Our manager was one of those in his playing days. I think the likes of Darren Jackson, Scott Brown and Derek Riordan did similar. I loved those players when they played for us and I loved that they liked a bit of needle too. Maybe for some it helps them get motivated?

The point though is that it's part of the game. I do not like what I've seen of Rudi Skacel one bit but how would we have reacted if he'd been a Hibs player acting the same way against Hearts?

The reason I mention the song is because it was an escalation from banter with an edge to it to something quite horrible.

[RoxburghHibs]

I'm just posing questions. The reason for that is because I don't know Skacel's side of the story. You have either spoken to Skacel himself about this or you only know one side of the argument. You've made up your mind without asking these questions. That's your prerogative but I think it makes it much more likely that your opinion will not be an informed one.



You are not just posting questions you are also posting opinions.

Skacels side of the story has no importance to me (couldn't care a less why he acts in the way he does) I certainly don't need to speak to him in person to be aware of his dislike of Hibernian - he has shown this in abundance since the first derby. However again, lets be very clear, his actions are his own - they are not caused by Hibs supporters. You seem to be getting yourself all confused and are trying to turn this into "Hibs fans caused Skacel to be a complete dick" argument so should suck it up. This angle you are trying to create is wrong and is not even up for debate (or shouldn't be!).

I know you have made some of your points more than once but I'm afraid that doesn't make those things true. They are just your views. Again you are wrong. Skacel did abuse Hibs supporters the first time he played against us. That is fact and it's not just me who has repeated this message to you on this thread - hoping I guess that the penny will drop eventually. I live in hope :)


I do not dispute that Skacel has always shown an antipathy towards Hibs and acted-up when he's played against us. Let's face it though - he wouldn't be the first player who seems to enjoy winding up opposition players and fans - particularly local rivals.

True but as someone else pointed out he loves to hate Hibs more than he loves Hearts. It's always been like this and that is why I find him sad and weird.



The point though is that it's part of the game. I do not like what I've seen of Rudi Skacel one bit but how would we have reacted if he'd been a Hibs player acting the same way against Hearts?
I guess I would have laughed the first couple of times as you do. But I would have started to cringe with embarrassment over time as it's just an odd fixation from a "has been". It's certainly not normal behaviour and I can't recall any other player on either side acting to the levels he does. I guess it would be more understandable if he grew up supporting the cheats but he didn't.


The reason I mention the song is because it was an escalation from banter with an edge to it to something quite horrible. Sure and your arguing with yourself as we all agree but again it's not relevant to his sad obsession with Hibernian.

[GreenOnions]

You are not just posting questions you are also posting opinions.

Skacels side of the story has no importance to me (couldn't care a less why he acts in the way he does) I certainly don't need to speak to him in person to be aware of his dislike of Hibernian - he has shown this in abundance since the first derby. However again, lets be very clear, his actions are his own - they are not caused by Hibs supporters. You seem to be getting yourself all confused and are trying to turn this into "Hibs fans caused Skacel to be a complete dick" argument so should suck it up. This angle you are trying to create is wrong and is not even up for debate.

Again you are 100% wrong. Skacel did abuse Hibs supporters the first time he played against us. That is fact.

True but as someone else pointed out he loves to hate Hibs more than he loves Hearts. It's always been like this and that is why I find him sad and weird.

I guess I would have laughed the first couple of times as you do. But I would have started to cringe with embarrassment over time as it's just an odd fixation from a has been.

Sure and your arguing with yourself as we all agree but again it's not relevant to his sad obsession with Hibernian.

Ah well - if it's not up for debate then we'd better stop :rules:

[RoxburghHibs]

Ah well - if it's not up for debate then we'd better stop :rules:

Glad you are finally seeing sense. And if I have upset you and your pal Skacel then please accept my sincere apologies.

Actually nah screw that "7-0, 56 years in a row, in yer pink bus shelter slums"!! haha