The Thieves.

[vuefrom1875]

Apologies if been posted before,came across a list of Herts creditors.Here's some interesting football related samples...Ayr united fc.£1750.00....Livingston f.c. £282.57...Liverpool f.c.£46,625.49....Musselburgh Ath £5790,20....Stenhousemuir f.c.£5750,00....Scottish youth football Assoc £1700,00....The Rangers £1410,00...and a wee couple of oddities....John Gibson £2526,00...the odious Scott Wilson £1000,00.....Beggars Belief how squeaky clean they are now!!!

[JDHibs]

Apologies if been posted before,came across a list of Herts creditors.Here's some interesting football related samples...Ayr united fc.£1750.00....Livingston f.c. £282.57...Liverpool f.c.£46,625.49....Musselburgh Ath £5790,20....Stenhousemuir f.c.£5750,00....Scottish youth football Assoc £1700,00....The Rangers £1410,00...and a wee couple of oddities....John Gibson £2526,00...the odious Scott Wilson £1000,00.....Beggars Belief how squeaky clean they are now!!!

I believe all their footballing debts have been paid, part of the contract with being issued a football license or something like that.

[duffers]

Apologies if been posted before,came across a list of Herts creditors.Here's some interesting football related samples...Ayr united fc.£1750.00....Livingston f.c. £282.57...Liverpool f.c.£46,625.49....Musselburgh Ath £5790,20....Stenhousemuir f.c.£5750,00....Scottish youth football Assoc £1700,00....The Rangers £1410,00...and a wee couple of oddities....John Gibson £2526,00...the odious Scott Wilson £1000,00.....Beggars Belief how squeaky clean they are now!!!

I believe they had to pay all football creditors otherwise it would have been liquidation.

[Bostonhibby]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

[Bostonhibby]

I believe they had to pay all football creditors otherwise it would have been liquidation.

Actually they wouldn't have got a licence to play football from the authorities otherwise they would have probably welched on those ones as well

[CropleyWasGod]

I believe they had to pay all football creditors otherwise it would have been liquidation.

Not quite. Had they not paid their football creditors, they wouldn't have been granted an SFA Licence.

[WhileTheChief..]

Scottish Water just £100. Think we can ignore the £95k per month thing at Ibrox!

[JimBHibees]

Savills seems appropriate.

[southsider]

David Cameron £110 lol lol

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

The Insolvency Service - £0

LOL! how ironic.......!

[snooky]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

Their mantra is ....
"Hey, we won the cup. Who gives a monkey's about those poor Bs"

[Aldo]

The list is disgusting with some highlights

Lady Haig Poppy Fund (I believe this was paid by a benefactor)

Edinburgh of City Council ...£90 plus grand. This will be unpaid Council tax/rates. Funny how ECC never chased this up yet when joe public goes into a few quid arrears they are on it straight away.

All this businesses done over yet they want to build a new stand etc.

About right for that mob.

I will never ever let them forget. Funny how every time I mention this after 1-5 and 1902 (which is burst) it was "this was in the past and doesn't matter now"" really. Administration will always be part of your history!

[Dashing Bob S]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

I hope all those clubs were paid back. In the case of outfits like Stenny and The, those are potentially life-threatening amounts.

[Ross4356]

A total of 28,421,917 we should never let them forget this

[greenlex]

Struggling to think what John Gibson could have done to be owed that amount.

[southsider]

The Insolvency Service - £0

LOL! how ironic.......!
Did they not take their money first ? Seems they are now peddling a myth that everyone got paid. Give it another couple of years and it would be THEM that was due money.

[GreenCastle]

The 146k they owed Heriot Watt is the one which stands out to me.

Is there any way to see if this was ever settled or just ignored.

[ancient hibee]

Struggling to think what John Gibson could have done to be owed that amount.
Stuff in the match programme?

[CropleyWasGod]

The 146k they owed Heriot Watt is the one which stands out to me.

Is there any way to see if this was ever settled or just ignored.

Nobody, other than the football and secured creditors, were paid by HMFC.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The list is disgusting with some highlights

Lady Haig Poppy Fund (I believe this was paid by a benefactor)

Edinburgh of City Council ...£90 plus grand. This will be unpaid Council tax/rates. Funny how ECC never chased this up yet when joe public goes into a few quid arrears they are on it straight away.

All this businesses done over yet they want to build a new stand etc.

About right for that mob.

I will never ever let them forget. Funny how every time I mention this after 1-5 and 1902 (which is burst) it was "this was in the past and doesn't matter now"" really. Administration will always be part of your history!

I don't understand this one either ....... when it comes to personal council tax it doesn't matter a toss how many creditors a private person has had to bump you still have to pay it, even if that means coming up with a payment plan. Considering the sum of money involved and the well publicised financial difficulties ECC have endured recently under what rule were HoMFC able to avoid paying the 90 thousand pounds?

Speaking as someone who has been chased for unpaid CT in the past I would certainly like to know why a business, any business, is allowed to get away with this when I was badgered and threatened for months over a couple of hundred quid, and I'm sure theres a lot of folk who have been in my position who would like an answer to that question as well.

[CropleyWasGod]

I don't understand this one either ....... when it comes to personal council tax it doesn't matter a toss how many creditors a private person has had to bump you still have to pay it, even if that means coming up with a payment plan. Considering the sum of money involved and the well publicised financial difficulties ECC have endured recently under what rule were HoMFC able to avoid paying the 90 thousand pounds?

Speaking as someone who has been chased for unpaid CT in the past I would certainly like to know why a business, any business, is allowed to get away with this when I was badgered and threatened for months over a couple of hundred quid, and I'm sure theres a lot of folk who have been in my position who would like an answer to that question as well.

You wouldn't have to pay it if you were bankrupted.

[Aldo]

I don't understand this one either ....... when it comes to personal council tax it doesn't matter a toss how many creditors a private person has had to bump you still have to pay it, even if that means coming up with a payment plan. Considering the sum of money involved and the well publicised financial difficulties ECC have endured recently under what rule were HoMFC able to avoid paying the 90 thousand pounds? Speaking as someone who has been chased for unpaid CT in the past I would certainly like to know why a business, any business, is allowed to get away with this when I was badgered and threatened for months over a couple of hundred quid, and I'm sure theres a lot of folk who have been in my position who would like an answer to that question as well.

Yip strange one this.

I bet no normal business would get away with it to the same extend without something being done.

All now forgotten about by that mob and its following.

Disgraceful and despicable club that has no shame!

[NAE NOOKIE]

You wouldn't have to pay it if you were bankrupted.

At the time things were so bad that it was certainly an option ...... in order to avoid it I did everything I could to pay my debts, which left me without a pot to piss in at the end of every month .... it would have been a hell of a lot easier to declare myself bankrupt ..... bloody pride eh?

They tell me the Yams have got spades of pride :greengrin

[0762]

I don't understand this one either ....... when it comes to personal council tax it doesn't matter a toss how many creditors a private person has had to bump you still have to pay it, even if that means coming up with a payment plan. Considering the sum of money involved and the well publicised financial difficulties ECC have endured recently under what rule were HoMFC able to avoid paying the 90 thousand pounds?

Speaking as someone who has been chased for unpaid CT in the past I would certainly like to know why a business, any business, is allowed to get away with this when I was badgered and threatened for months over a couple of hundred quid, and I'm sure theres a lot of folk who have been in my position who would like an answer to that question as well.


Then add to that City of Edinburgh Council (for flats) £2,631
When people find it difficult to get Council Houses in Edinburgh, how can the Council rent flats to a football club, presumable for players to stay in?
Surely the Council couldn't be showing favour to Hearts over people or families in Edinburgh in need of accommodation..........Or were they??

If there is anybody up on how you go about "freedom of information" questions of the council this might be an interesting on.

[Kato]

The 146k they owed Heriot Watt is the one which stands out to me.

Is there any way to see if this was ever settled or just ignored.

Wasn't it found to be triple that once the "final" list of creditors appeared?

[vuefrom1875]

The 146k they owed Heriot Watt is the one which stands out to me.

Is there any way to see if this was ever settled or just ignored.

Looks like they did not want to make waves,and were awarded the Oriam Sports performance centre for their troubles with Stirling Uni losing out!!...STINKS!!

[CropleyWasGod]

Looks like they did not want to make waves,and were awarded the Oriam Sports performance centre for their troubles with Stirling Uni losing out!!...STINKS!!

What waves could they have made?

They ranked with every other unsecured non-football creditor, which meant they got nothing.

[worcesterhibby]

I see they owed "Clouds" £6870

How much did they owe CuckooLand ?

[GreenLake]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust £589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

Was BIG Hearts Community Trust not their own private charity and was there not a much larger sum of money collected on it's behalf but spent on the team instead? I vaguely remember some rule about charities not being allowed to declare funds which have not arrived in their possession and hence in Administration, Hearts were able to conceal that embezzlement from the final creditor list.

That was almost as bad as stiffing the Lady Haig's Poppy Fund - one of the most shameful acts in the history of Scottish Football.

[GreenCastle]

Looks like they did not want to make waves,and were awarded the Oriam Sports performance centre for their troubles with Stirling Uni losing out!!...STINKS!!

Surely a simple question could be asked to HW - did you ever receive payment from hearts and are they paying for the facility (which isn't cheap hence why their development games are elsewhere ) right now?

[silverhibee]

You wouldn't have to pay it if you were bankrupted.

I think what folk are trying to say is, how were they allowed to get to that amount without the council taking any action against them before they went bankrupt, as folk have said, you miss a few payments and Scott & co are on the case straight away, letters, court action, goods seizure to pay the debt, why were they not chasing them before they went bankrupt.

[CropleyWasGod]

I think what folk are trying to say is, how were they allowed to get to that amount without the council taking any action against them before they went bankrupt, as folk have said, you miss a few payments and Scott & co are on the case straight away, letters, court action, goods seizure to pay the debt, why were they not chasing them before they went bankrupt.

We don't know that the council didn't take action against them.

In the normal course of things, reminders are sent out.

More reminders are sent.

Threats of Court action are sent.

Notice of Court action is sent.

All of that is common to both private and business debts. The whole process can take months. If your balls are big enough, or you have no money, you just ignore it. And ... crucially, in Hearts' case, it's all confidential. Even more importantly, the Council can't withhold services, in the way that the Utility companies can. So, generally, they're at the end of the queue.

It's only when it actually reaches Court that it becomes public... and that could be a year or so down the line. Even at that, if the case goes against you, and you still can't or won't pay..... you don't, and accept the consequences.

[therealgavmac]

Apologies if been posted before,came across a list of Herts creditors.Here's some interesting football related samples...Ayr united fc.£1750.00....Livingston f.c. £282.57...Liverpool f.c.£46,625.49....Musselburgh Ath £5790,20....Stenhousemuir f.c.£5750,00....Scottish youth football Assoc £1700,00....The Rangers £1410,00...and a wee couple of oddities....John Gibson £2526,00...the odious Scott Wilson £1000,00.....Beggars Belief how squeaky clean they are now!!!

"Apologies if been posted before......" that actually made me laugh out loud :rotflmao::rotflmao:

[EastThomasSTboy]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

[Bostonhibby]

The 146k they owed Heriot Watt is the one which stands out to me.

Is there any way to see if this was ever settled or just ignored.

Most determined organisations have mechanisms to pursue debts at tight intervals and to a normal conclusion, if the debtor is actively trading they will tend to get judgements / secure assets etc - draw your own conclusion about the apparent inaction here.


Was BIG Hearts Community Trust not their own private charity and was there not a much larger sum of money collected on it's behalf but spent on the team instead? I vaguely remember some rule about charities not being allowed to declare funds which have not arrived in their possession and hence in Administration, Hearts were able to conceal that embezzlement from the final creditor list.

That was almost as bad as stiffing the Lady Haig's Poppy Fund - one of the most shameful acts in the history of Scottish Football.

Big Hearts - :dunno: I lifted this from their own disclosed creditors list of shame - There was a suggestion there was another list where the trust had a five figured sum "resting" in the yams accounts but a contra rent charge by the yams to their charity disappeared it (?).

Lady Haig Fund - Yep, but if they deny it long enough it will go away?


We don't know that the council didn't take action against them.

In the normal course of things, reminders are sent out.

More reminders are sent.

Threats of Court action are sent.

Notice of Court action is sent.

All of that is common to both private and business debts. The whole process can take months. If your balls are big enough, or you have no money, you just ignore it. And ... crucially, in Hearts' case, it's all confidential. Even more importantly, the Council can't withhold services, in the way that the Utility companies can. So, generally, they're at the end of the queue.

It's only when it actually reaches Court that it becomes public... and that could be a year or so down the line. Even at that, if the case goes against you, and you still can't or won't pay..... you don't, and accept the consequences.

See HWU above. Where there's a desire to pursue the debt the Council can do it and be into your assets / income fairly quickly, the question is how long does it take to rack up the yam debt and how far down the process were the council when they suddenly became aware they couldn't / wouldn't pay?.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Loving Scrubbers Laundry.

[greenginger]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.


This was just the interim list. The final list was published on 2/12/2013.

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On page 41.
An extra £ 646,851 was due for unpaid VAT.

The Heriot Watt debt went up to £ 5,125,528.00 :confused:

[Bostonhibby]

This was just the interim list. The final list was published on 2/12/2013.

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On page 41.
An extra £ 646,851 was due for unpaid VAT.

The Heriot Watt debt went up to £ 5,125,528.00 :confused:
Never knew, is their no end to their infamy?

Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using Tapatalk

[NGP]

Big Hearts lost £36k. They were charged that amount for 'rent' for desk space in one of the club's offices. The club had collected the amount through a variety of ways (can collections, donations, charity grants etc) but used the funds for 'rent' instead of giving the money for the charity to use. Big Hearts until that point had never been asked to pay rent and had to cancel many projects and staff lost out on work. This was when they were struggling to pay the player's wages.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

I see they owed "Clouds" £6870


Mad Vlad holding Bowie and Northern Soul all-nighters for his pals.

[greenlex]

Ironically Neilson on tonight's news waxing lyrical about Hearts having the best facilities in the country!!!!

[ACLeith]

Ironically Neilson on tonight's news waxing lyrical about Hearts having the best facilities in the country!!!!

Heard that as well bad timing as I had a mouthful of food at the time 😱

[Bostonhibby]

Ironically Neilson on tonight's news waxing lyrical about Hearts having the best facilities in the country!!!!
To be fair this is the guy that was looking forward to the money spinning replay against us in the cup so he does have previous for being disconnected from reality.

A bit like saying you have a private jet just because you got a cheap seat on Ryanair.

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[Baader]

Debts of 7 and 8 quid that they owed but didn't pay back. Show them for the two bit low level parasites they are. Bus station conmen.

Ripping off charities is about as low as it gets and they know it.

[BullsCloseHibs]

Ironically Neilson on tonight's news waxing lyrical about Hearts having the best facilities in the country!!!!

Saw this too

Nelson - "we have the best training facilities in Scotland by a country mile".

Fails on two counts.

A) No it isn't.

B) It's not yours.

The rephrased version should have said

"We hire Heriot Watt's facilities when we have cash to do so and it ranks among the best although Hibs, Celtic and The Rangers have their own ones and we extremely jealous that we cannot and never will afford our own"

Nice try though Chewbacka

[Bostonhibby]

Saw this too

Nelson - "we have the best training facilities in Scotland by a country mile".

Fails on two counts.

A) No it isn't.

B) It's not yours.

The rephrased version should have said

"We hire Heriot Watt's facilities when we have cash to do so and it ranks among the best although Hibs, Celtic and The Rangers have their own ones and we extremely jealous that we cannot and never will afford our own"

Nice try though Chewbacka

:agree: They've got the best John Robertson Lounge in the country though.

[GreenLake]

Saw this too

Nelson - "we have the best training facilities in Scotland by a country mile".

Fails on two counts.

A) No it isn't.

B) It's not yours.

The rephrased version should have said

"We hire Heriot Watt's facilities when we have cash to do so and it ranks among the best although Hibs, Celtic and The Rangers have their own ones and we extremely jealous that we cannot and never will afford our own"

Nice try though Chewbacka

The best training facilities stolen by a cant.

[Deansy]

Ironically Neilson on tonight's news waxing lyrical about Hearts having the best facilities in the country!!!!

Really xxxxxxx me off - 'We have the best training facilities in Scotland'. As 'Greencastle' says, that they're so great that they can't afford to play their developement games there !

He also slavered something about 'soon having the infrastructure to challenge Septic for the league' - must be approaching time for half-season ticket sales and they need to milk their Muppets again !

[Kato]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.


To most people on here he's a classless prat with the humour of a spoiled 6 year old.

[KeithTheHibby]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

Nah he's a massive hearts cock.

[mjhibby]

So you can forget about the debts of over £20m plus the 16m of debt forgiveness by ukio winkas but as long as you pay the football debt,which was a tiny percentage of the overall debt then that's ok. I'm sure Scott Wilson is a nice guy but when he is spouting his crap at the pbs he's anything but. My mate has stopped going to the pbs and just says he can't be bothered because the football is pish. I think it's more to do with him being a decent person and does feel ashamed at all the time around Romanov. Obviously one of the few from them with a conscious. Can't stomach anything to do with that club. I have to put up with them socially and they talk the biggest load of tripe you've ever heard. I'm sure some of them are those that post on every hibs post in the Scotsman. The club with no class and no shame.

[KeithTheHibby]

Ironically Neilson on tonight's news waxing lyrical about Hearts having the best facilities in the country!!!!

And he's a massive slavoring hearts cock too.

[Waxy]

The list should just simply be pinned.

[Wee Effen Bee]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

This 'praise up' sounds like friends trying to make out their kiddy-fiddling best pal was a good lad at heart because of all the charity work he did:greengrin I think he is a genuinely sound gadgey...apart from being a Jambo. Those of us who haven't met him, or known him in a previous life, can probably only judge him on his behaviour at Tynie. I can see why people get frazzled with him, his constant digs at the 'wee team' and his regular highlighting of hyper-inflated attendances can get on some people's diddies. As you say, we can't get on with everyone. :wink:

[BSEJVT]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

He is an utter bell end whom I wouldn't pish on if he was on fire, let alone speak to.

Not only did he spout the nonsense that he did and get shafted by them for doing it, but he then went back and did it again.

Have a bit of pride man or some self worth.

[hibees 7062]

Loving Scrubbers Laundry.

Strange name for an accountant :greengrin

[EskbankHibby]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

It wasn't the Lady Haig Poppy Fund or the Big Hearts Community Trust your mate did all this charity work for was it?

If so, all that sterling work seems to have been offset a tad.:aok:

[BullsCloseHibs]

He is an utter bell end whom I wouldn't pish on if he was on fire, let alone speak to.

Not only did he spout the nonsense that he did and get shafted by them for doing it, but he then went back and did it again.

Have a bit of pride man or some self worth.

100% this

[Kaiser1962]

A total of 28,421,917 we should never let them forget this

If you add in the debt for eqity swaps, the "debt forgiveness" and the dodgy inter company invoices I believe the figure tops £70m.

But as a yam pointed out the DFE swaps were a transaction and that UBIG got Hearts FC shares in return for their cash.

And folk wonder (usually Yams) how they went bump?

On the poppy fund debt I once had an epic spat with Lord Foulkes on twitter which really, really annoyed the bastirt.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Filthy cheating ****bags.

[Itsnoteasy]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.

They will be disappointed they didn't do the whole apphabet. Q X & Z is all they missed. What a great effort.

[Danderhall Hibs]

If you add in the debt for eqity swaps, the "debt forgiveness" and the dodgy inter company invoices I believe the figure tops £70m.

But as a yam pointed out the DFE swaps were a transaction and that UBIG got Hearts FC shares in return for their cash.

And folk wonder (usually Yams) how they went bump?

On the poppy fund debt I once had an epic spat with Lord Foulkes on twitter which really, really annoyed the bastirt.

They don't like the fact that Sir Tom squared off the poppy debt for them.

[Kaiser1962]

They don't like the fact that Sir Tom squared off the poppy debt for them.


:agree:

I may mention that when he unblocks me.

[jgl07]

Quite a few you'd be ashamed to bump in here. No seen their own full list for a while.

2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue - VAT£0
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Herriot Watt£145,655
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562.
I assume to money owed to Herriot Watt is for vets bills?

I didn't realize that donkey Dave McPherson was still on Hearts' books?

[Bostonhibby]

:agree:

I may mention that when he unblocks me.

Must be terrible not to see his cheery wee coupon, here's something to keep you going until he unblocks you:wink:

[Dunbar Hibee]

:agree:

I may mention that when he unblocks me.

Haha I'm also blocked from pishy pants for the same reason.

[GreenCastle]

This was just the interim list. The final list was published on 2/12/2013.

On page 41.
An extra £ 646,851 was due for unpaid VAT.

The Heriot Watt debt went up to £ 5,125,528.00 :confused:

Sorry the Heriot Watt debt went to ???

Do the University not publish figures or ever make a statement about the large amounts of money they were due?

The crazy thing is that Oriam has somehow brushed it under the carpet and let them continue to use the building (when the students and Hibs Development) aren't playing matches.

It's always write funny going to the Hibs development games at Oriam and you see the Hearts players watching the Hibs games..surely can't feel like a proper home training ground for them.

Before the derby last season they were silly enough to do a shaping practice on the open Heriot Watt grass - East Mains may be far away but least it's private.

[Enough said]

Just caught up on this post this morning. Can't believe all that soap dodging gets. How they managed to get away with that is unbelievable.

[banarc7062]

The 146k they owed Heriot Watt is the one which stands out to me.

Is there any way to see if this was ever settled or just ignored.

Well, do they still have training facilities there or have they been emptied?

[flash]

Charities, the Red Cross, struggling local small businesses, both council tax and national tax payer all ripped off by these jokers yet still they attempt to claim some sort of moral high ground as they strut around Edinburgh in their blooded turd outfits.
These lists should be reposted regularly to remind us all just what they did and to whom.

[ruthven_raiders]

Well, do they still have training facilities there or have they been emptied?

Robbie Nielson saying in papers that Hearts have the best training facilities by a mile 😂😂
Also access to the Oriam facilities Oh my sides....

[Bostonhibby]

Robbie Nielson saying in papers that Hearts have the best training facilities by a mile 😂😂
Also access to the Oriam facilities Oh my sides....
I really wouldn't take anything "replay robbie" has to say that seriously. I mean he's front man for potter!

Not the brightest bulb on the tree!

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[greenginger]

Charities, the Red Cross, struggling local small businesses, both council tax and national tax payer all ripped off by these jokers yet still they attempt to claim some sort of moral high ground as they strut around Edinburgh in their blooded turd outfits.
These lists should be reposted regularly to remind us all just what they did and to whom.


Maybe we should frame a copy of the list of shame and present it to their new museum. :greengrin

[flash]

Maybe we should frame a copy of the list of shame and present it to their new museum. :greengrin

They could hang it between their World War 1 winners pennant and one of Cicero's gold discs.

[Coco Bryce]

Weatherseal - £42.00

That must have been to keep the January Trasnfer window shut tight that year :greengrin

[northstandhibby]

Maybe we should frame a copy of the list of shame and present it to their new museum. :greengrin

An additional touch of irony would be if we had it framed at Macraes of Gorgie.

:greengrin

GGTTH

[21.05.2016]

The list is disgusting with some highlights

Lady Haig Poppy Fund (I believe this was paid by a benefactor)

Edinburgh of City Council ...£90 plus grand. This will be unpaid Council tax/rates. Funny how ECC never chased this up yet when joe public goes into a few quid arrears they are on it straight away.

All this businesses done over yet they want to build a new stand etc.

About right for that mob.

I will never ever let them forget. Funny how every time I mention this after 1-5 and 1902 (which is burst) it was "this was in the past and doesn't matter now"" really. Administration will always be part of your history!

I'm sure it matter to the poor people/businesses/charities etc etc they cheated out of money! Thats who the real victims in all this are so they can shove their "oh but but we didn't know what was happening, we are the victims, it was big bad Romanov" up their arse. They knew fine well the sort of corrupt establishment that was being run at their club but they didn't give a **** as it was reeping them a wee bit of cheated glory and fuelling their wee delusion that they are some sort of super mega club.

Shameless doesn't even begin to cover it with that lot. They got away with absolute murder as usual but instead of showing a wee but of remorse or humility about their shameless past they are back giving it the big un, gloating about "this heart still beats" and other such guff which is basically giving a big two fingers up to everyone they cheated. Quite astonishing even for them.

Their obsession of being "the big team" drove them to nearly killing their club, thats how bad it is. They cheated and conned just about everyone they came across just to cheat some glory. Despicable club.

[Sergio sledge]

Sorry the Heriot Watt debt went to ???

Do the University not publish figures or ever make a statement about the large amounts of money they were due?

The crazy thing is that Oriam has somehow brushed it under the carpet and let them continue to use the building (when the students and Hibs Development) aren't playing matches.

It's always write funny going to the Hibs development games at Oriam and you see the Hearts players watching the Hibs games..surely can't feel like a proper home training ground for them.

Before the derby last season they were silly enough to do a shaping practice on the open Heriot Watt grass - East Mains may be far away but least it's private.

To be fair to Hearts, the total Heriot Watt debt related to the total amount due over the length of the lease, which still had quite a few years to run and which will have been replaced with a new lease, so Heriot Watt aren't really out of pocket by that much. I'm not sure how much in arrears Hearts were with their payments, perhaps this is the £145k that was originally claimed.

[Aldo]

I'm sure it matter to the poor people/businesses/charities etc etc they cheated out of money! Thats who the real victims in all this are so they can shove their "oh but but we didn't know what was happening, we are the victims, it was big bad Romanov" up their arse. They knew fine well the sort of corrupt establishment that was being run at their club but they didn't give a **** as it was reeping them a wee bit of cheated glory and fuelling their wee delusion that they are some sort of super mega club.

Shameless doesn't even begin to cover it with that lot. They got away with absolute murder as usual but instead of showing a wee but of remorse or humility about their shameless past they are back giving it the big un, gloating about "this heart still beats" and other such guff which is basically giving a big two fingers up to everyone they cheated. Quite astonishing even for them.

Their obsession of being "the big team" drove them to nearly killing their club, thats how bad it is. They cheated and conned just about everyone they came across just to cheat some glory. Despicable club.

Spot on G.
They might want to try and forget it but I never will and as long as a breathe I will always remind them.

Hate is a horrible word but my hatred towards them will never cease to be.






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[jacomo]

To be fair to Hearts, the total Heriot Watt debt related to the total amount due over the length of the lease, which still had quite a few years to run and which will have been replaced with a new lease, so Heriot Watt aren't really out of pocket by that much. I'm not sure how much in arrears Hearts were with their payments, perhaps this is the £145k that was originally claimed.

And to be fair to the Jambos, many of them really are so dumb that they thought Vlad fell in love with 'The Famous' and possessed a magic money tree.

[hibees 7062]

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[Bostonhibby]

To be fair to Hearts, the total Heriot Watt debt related to the total amount due over the length of the lease, which still had quite a few years to run and which will have been replaced with a new lease, so Heriot Watt aren't really out of pocket by that much. I'm not sure how much in arrears Hearts were with their payments, perhaps this is the £145k that was originally claimed.
It was £145k. That's a fair bit of money in my world.

The real scandal here is HWU letting it get that far and jumping straight back into bed with them. Cosy wee relationship somewhere?

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[GreenCastle]

It was £145k. That's a fair bit of money in my world.

The real scandal here is HWU letting it get that far and jumping straight back into bed with them. Cosy wee relationship somewhere?

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This is how I see it.

They weren't paying for it and what figure are they actually paying now ?

Would this be shown in the Hearts accounts ?

It is odd they can't afford for their youth team to play their home games there but we can afford it. They don't even play their games in Edinburgh !

[greenginger]

This is how I see it.

They weren't paying for it and what figure are they actually paying now ?

Would this be shown in the Hearts accounts ?

It is odd they can't afford for their youth team to play their home games there but we can afford it. They don't even play their games in Edinburgh !


The only published figures for training facilities were the report at the end of administration.

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page 13 shows training facilities hire costs for the year June 2013 to June 2014 as £ 278,389.00. Does not say if its all for Heriot Watt or includes other hires.

[greenginger]

Sorry bad link, try


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If not its on their companies house page published 11/6/2014, End of Administration.

[Scouse Hibee]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

Most people form an opinion on folk they haven't actually met by judging their actions and comments especially if that person is in the public eye. So no great surprise that some people have concluded that Scott Wilson is on their dislike list.

[Dr Jimmy]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

Never understand why this is put forward as justification on a person's character. There are quite a few recent examples of individuals who "did a lot for charity" that can be described as odious at best.

The man is pathetic and this is evident by his need to get a reaction from opposition fans whilst trying to appeal to the pond life in their support.
If he wants to have a bit of banter he should at least try to be funny instead of craving a reaction. For a grown man it's actually quite pathetic.

[greenginger]

An unnecessary request from captain Caveman .....


http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/neilson-tells-hearts-to-be-horrible-after-loss-to-killie-1-4270261

[brog]

An unnecessary request from captain Caveman .....


http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/neilson-tells-hearts-to-be-horrible-after-loss-to-killie-1-4270261

Jeez! That's like asking Trump to be less truthful!

[green day]

Re the first post on this thread:

It has the line……the Odious Scott Wilson £1000.?

I have known Scott for over 35 years and he has always been a daft Jambo who wears his Heart on his sleeve.
He was actually a very good goalkeeper in his younger days, and played behind me for quite a few years.

So, I think its a bit much, too call him odious, even though he always refers to us as the Wee Team.(He's actually a very funny bloke and great to have a bit of banter with!!).

I don't think any of my Hibby teammates from that era would ever say anything bad about him and he's done a fair amount of Charity Work over the years.

To "the vue from 1875" have you ever met him or been in his company?.

IF you have and thats still your opinion, then thats fair enough, as I realise that we can't get on with everybody.

GGTTH.

He is your mate, good you are sticking up for him - but, that bit in bold?

There is a boy at my work who - regardless of the situation, work, play, out with mates - does that "5-1" thing if there is a camera about and puts it on facebook.

We are talking about a man in his mid 40s.

On the face of it, he comes across as an ok guy with good chat, but for that one thing - I class him as a prize c0ck.

Same with the bit in bold re Scott Wilson.

[Bostonhibby]

He is your mate, good you are sticking up for him - but, that bit in bold?

There is a boy at my work who - regardless of the situation, work, play, out with mates - does that "5-1" thing if there is a camera about and puts it on facebook.

We are talking about a man in his mid 40s.

On the face of it, he comes across as an ok guy with good chat, but for that one thing - I class him as a prize c0ck.

Same with the bit in bold re Scott Wilson.
Jeez. I know a yam who won't hear a word against romanov, he will not accept they went into administration and when given a copy of their own list of shame he says a guy in the supporters club who is an accountant has proof that it was made up by a "hobo" - whatever that is.



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[northstandhibby]

Jeez. I know a yam who won't hear a word against romanov, he will not accept they went into administration and when given a copy of their own list of shame he says a guy in the supporters club who is an accountant has proof that it was made up by a "hobo" - whatever that is.Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using Tapatalk Denial or shameless is a common trait among some yams and huns. Of course they want to move it along and pretend their clubs didn't shaft the taxpayer and numerous others whilst pretending also their cup wins are valid and were not paid with either on the never to be paid or in the case of Romanov and out and out money launderer. Maybe the Scrubbers laundry was the shop front for the dirty money.

GGTTH

[Mikey09]

Never understand why this is put forward as justification on a person's character. There are quite a few recent examples of individuals who "did a lot for charity" that can be described as odious at best.

The man is pathetic and this is evident by his need to get a reaction from opposition fans whilst trying to appeal to the pond life in their support.
If he wants to have a bit of banter he should at least try to be funny instead of craving a reaction. For a grown man it's actually quite pathetic.


Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work...

[givescotlandfreedom]

He is your mate, good you are sticking up for him - but, that bit in bold?

There is a boy at my work who - regardless of the situation, work, play, out with mates - does that "5-1" thing if there is a camera about and puts it on facebook.

We are talking about a man in his mid 40s.

On the face of it, he comes across as an ok guy with good chat, but for that one thing - I class him as a prize c0ck.

Same with the bit in bold re Scott Wilson.

I know one like that too, sad cases. Barely goes to games either and really can't take it back. He scampered away from me when I went into work after the last derby which was enough for me.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Our Scottish Cup win has certainly tipped them over the edge, used to be a bit of banter but it's now a seething hatred for us.

Long may it continue.

Liars, cheats, fantasists and thieves....always.

[mjhibby]

Our Scottish Cup win has certainly tipped them over the edge, used to be a bit of banter but it's now a seething hatred for us.

Long may it continue.

Liars, cheats, fantasists and thieves....always.

Our glorious cup win has left them like a child who has his fav toy taken away from him. They are bitter,delusional and bemused as us winning it after being 2 down at the pbs. They are really from a different planet and the 5-1 is like their Spock Klingon sign.

[KeithTheHibby]

Jeez. I know a yam who won't hear a word against romanov, he will not accept they went into administration and when given a copy of their own list of shame he says a guy in the supporters club who is an accountant has proof that it was made up by a "hobo" - whatever that is.



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People like that deserve a punch in the face, simple as. Either than ignored completely. Wasting anything more than 30 seconds entertaining a moron like that is a crime.

[Bostonhibby]

People like that deserve a punch in the face, simple as. Either than ignored completely. Wasting anything more than 30 seconds entertaining a moron like that is a crime.
Problem is I am related to him. Rarely goes to a game and stopped his foh donation as soon as they were "saved".

His partner is a hibs ST holder[emoji1]

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