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silverhibee
15-10-2016, 04:06 PM
Did Bartley kick out at the player in retaliation.

Bristolhibby
15-10-2016, 04:06 PM
It has not been good enough for 3 seasons now, lack of quality and steel throughout the 3 seasons.

Was at that same game back in March where we lost 2-1, bags of possession and hugged and puffed, but fell foul to two breakaways.

So in that respect a point while down to 10 men for most of the game to go top has to be seen as a good thing.

We are in for a loong season fellas!

J

DaveF
15-10-2016, 04:06 PM
I think it's a great point in the wider scheme of things. Yes, we have a goal scoring problem, but playing with 10 men for 50 minutes or more and still being the better team will be a good boost to the confidence.

Hopefully the crap red card is appealed (which from the reading the comments here it will be) and we can adopt a closed ranks mentality in the group that we'll beat this lot despite what the referee's do to us.

We are top of the league and I'll be heading to EEP next week confident we can use that game as a starting point to build a run of games to see us break clear.

DaveF
15-10-2016, 04:08 PM
All things considered (red card included) one shot on target is utter garbage.

Did they play a diamond today A?

And did I not read that we hit the bar and had one off the line?

gramskiwood
15-10-2016, 04:08 PM
Anybody listen to the s***e on sportscene? Apparently Hibs are "making it hard for themselves".... having all of these shocking decisions against them. :rolleyes:

The BBC really are a shower of a**eholes!

The're part of the same cabal unfortunately, it realy spoils my enjoment of the game. :fuming:

Golden Bear
15-10-2016, 04:09 PM
Did Bartley kick out at the player in retaliation.

I was watching it on RR tv and the pictures proved absolutely nothing. Some say it was for use of an elbow but I certainly couldn't see it.

Mental decision without a doubt.

NAE NOOKIE
15-10-2016, 04:10 PM
Unbelievable that we have played our last 3 league games down to 10 men, considering that, the fact that we are top of the league tonight is pretty remarkable but the other fact is that we have scored 3 goals in our last 5 league games which is pretty abysmal.

Away to Dunfermline next which probably isn't going to be any easier than today's game ...... it wouldn't half be a help if one of our strikers would actually start finding the net and we could keep 11 men on the park for 90 bloody minutes.

emerald green
15-10-2016, 04:10 PM
Anybody listen to the s***e on sportscene? Apparently Hibs are "making it hard for themselves".... having all of these shocking decisions against them. :rolleyes:

The BBC really are a shower of a**eholes!

Why do you listen to the BBC then if it's that bad?

Talk about a total over simplification, describing one of the most respected broadcasting organisations in the world (despite what you and some others may think) a shower of a**eholes because of some comment you've heard on a sports bulletin.

Or is it just politically motivated?

Golden Bear
15-10-2016, 04:12 PM
Unbelievable that we have played our last 3 league games down to 10 men, considering that, the fact that we are top of the league tonight is pretty remarkable but the other fact is that we have scored 3 goals in our last 5 league games which is pretty abysmal.

Away to Dunfermline next which probably isn't going to be any easier than today's game ...... it wouldn't half be a help if one of our strikers would actually start finding the net and we could keep 11 men on the park for 90 bloody minutes.

I felt as though Gary Locke set his team up to defend the 0-0 and didn't even try to change it when we were reduced to 10 men.

greenlex
15-10-2016, 04:14 PM
Did they play a diamond today A?

And did I not read that we hit the bar and had one off the line?

Dunno Dave. Wasn't there. I'm guessing so with Keatings at the tip.

High-On-Hibs
15-10-2016, 04:16 PM
Why do you listen to the BBC then if it's that bad?

Talk about a total over simplification, describing one of the most respected broadcasting organisations in the world (despite what you and some others may think) a shower of a**eholes because of some comment you've heard on a sports bulletin.

Or is it just politically motivated?

It's a broadcasting organisation for a**eholes, respected by a**eholes. It's not just their sport that's the problem. It runs far deeper than that for people who have the sense to see it for what it actually is.

Michael
15-10-2016, 04:19 PM
The referee's performance is irrelevant. It's another toothless performance from Hibs.

Fifehibby74
15-10-2016, 04:20 PM
Thought the team did well today given we were down to ten men. Defence looked pretty solid in the second half. Keatings was my man of the match. Hopefully we start with Cummings , holt and keatings next week. I'm a lot more positive than I was this time last week!

A Hi-Bee
15-10-2016, 04:21 PM
Why do you listen to the BBC then if it's that bad?

Talk about a total over simplification, describing one of the most respected broadcasting organisations in the world (despite what you and some others may think) a shower of a**eholes because of some comment you've heard on a sports bulletin.

Or is it just politically motivated?

The answer is contained in the abbreviation BBC just another arm of the Government which we all or at least most of us have the pleasure of paying for, while the overpaid flunky fronting the majority of its shows reads what he has been told from a telly prompt.
Not political at all, just full of overpaid A**eHoles

Beefster
15-10-2016, 04:23 PM
It's a broadcasting organisation for a**eholes, respected by a**eholes. It's not just their sport that's the problem. It runs far deeper than that for people who have the sense to see it for what it actually is.

A broadcasting organisation for ********s that you were listening to. Fair play, mate. It can't have been easy to admit that in public.

Heisenberg
15-10-2016, 04:23 PM
The referee's performance is irrelevant. It's another toothless performance from Hibs.

It's really not. He's wrongly sent our player off. Third time its happened in the last four games. We were the better side in the second half and deserved more than a point. We're top of the league. Calm down.

A Hi-Bee
15-10-2016, 04:24 PM
The referee's performance is irrelevant. It's another toothless performance from Hibs.

I would have to contend that the referee's performance is crucial to any game of football, what was irrelevant:greengrin was the charges brought against us over the Cup Final.:thumbsup:

monarch
15-10-2016, 04:27 PM
Anybody listen to the s***e on sportscene? Apparently Hibs are "making it hard for themselves".... having all of these shocking decisions against them. :rolleyes:

The BBC really are a shower of a**eholes!


Frustrating too, listening to Richard Gordon on Sportsound's Open All Mics continually going on about it being Hibs 3rd red card in 3 league matches. The fact that Bartley got his previous one rescinded is ignored in Gordon's world.

Callum_62
15-10-2016, 04:27 PM
The referee's performance is irrelevant. It's another toothless performance from Hibs.

sending a man off in the first half is pretty relevant to be honest

Thecat23
15-10-2016, 04:29 PM
The referee's performance is irrelevant. It's another toothless performance from Hibs.

I'd say playing the whole second half a man down away from home and getting a point is actually alright.

cabbageandribs1875
15-10-2016, 04:29 PM
what's the odds on the GFA rescinding todays red card :hmmm:

Heisenberg
15-10-2016, 04:30 PM
Todays referee ladies and gents...

https://twitter.com/FinnieStephen

:wink:

Coco Bryce
15-10-2016, 04:30 PM
Todays referee ladies and gents...

https://twitter.com/FinnieStephen

:wink:

Awfy young is he no :greengrin

emerald green
15-10-2016, 04:30 PM
It's a broadcasting organisation for a**eholes, respected by a**eholes. It's not just their sport that's the problem. It runs far deeper than that for people who have the sense to see it for what it actually is.

The bit in bold - yet you were listening to it? :faf:

So, the millions of people who watch and/or listen to the BBC every day are all a**eholes. Have I got that right? That's what you're saying? OK then. :rolleyes:

SHODAN
15-10-2016, 04:33 PM
I'd say playing the whole second half a man down away from home and getting a point is actually alright.

We played very well second half. Locke was happy to sit back and defend.

RedHibby
15-10-2016, 04:33 PM
They wont rescind this one because they will be worried that sending the same player off twice and getting it wrong twice would make their referee's look incompetent. Which we all know they are.

Heisenberg
15-10-2016, 04:34 PM
Awfy young is he no :greengrin

Exactly what i was thinking :greengrin

Pete
15-10-2016, 04:37 PM
Todays referee ladies and gents...

https://twitter.com/FinnieStephen

:wink:

Is that genuine?

(I don't have a clue about twitter)

hhibs
15-10-2016, 04:37 PM
It's a broadcasting organisation for a**eholes, respected by a**eholes. It's not just their sport that's the problem. It runs far deeper than that for people who have the sense to see it for what it actually is.


Agreed .:top marks

660
15-10-2016, 04:42 PM
The BBC sports coverage of Hibs was shown up to be a joke when they were interviewing Falkirk fans at half time after that penalty we got. Never seen it before or since. Truly bizarre.

flash
15-10-2016, 04:43 PM
There is something going on alright. They will happily rescind the red card as the damage is done.

marinello59
15-10-2016, 04:45 PM
It's a broadcasting organisation for a**eholes, respected by a**eholes. It's not just their sport that's the problem. It runs far deeper than that for people who have the sense to see it for what it actually is.

What is it you are actually high on?

murray26
15-10-2016, 04:47 PM
Any footage of the sending off yet..

Lago
15-10-2016, 04:47 PM
:greengrin
A broadcasting organisation for ********s that you were listening to. Fair play, mate. It can't have been easy to admit that in public.

Lago
15-10-2016, 05:01 PM
:top marks
The bit in bold - yet you were listening to it? :faf:

So, the millions of people who watch and/or listen to the BBC every day are all a**eholes. Have I got that right? That's what you're saying? OK then. :rolleyes:

lucky
15-10-2016, 05:04 PM
I enjoyed the second half performance. To a man they were great but Holt was outstanding.

QMU-1875
15-10-2016, 05:08 PM
Calling it a "toothless performance" seems harsh. Listening to the game it sounded like, even with ten men, we dominated putting in a real gutsy performance. With another referee we would have won, no red and by the commentary at least two strong penalty claims denied.

Michael
15-10-2016, 05:10 PM
sending a man off in the first half is pretty relevant to be honest

Maybe I'm being unrealistic, but I think we should still beat a poor Raith side who are set up to not lose even if we have 10 men.

ClewsHibs
15-10-2016, 05:14 PM
McGregor didnt lose a header all game. Brilliant

NAE NOOKIE
15-10-2016, 05:14 PM
I have to say that its quite heartening reading the comments from people who actually watched the game ... most, if not all, appear to be of the opinion that Hibs played very well after going down to 10 men and from my point of view you can hardly criticise a team getting a result away from home in those circumstances ... something we have now done twice in the last few weeks at two of the toughest away venues in the league ... unless you are Morton of course :greengrin

I would be a lot more critical of the team and the manager if our results over the last few weeks had been achieved with a level playing field, but they clearly haven't been ..... That being said, we simply have to find a way to overcome our problem in front of goals, because bad luck or not that's what's killing us.

Phil MaGlass
15-10-2016, 05:14 PM
Thing for me is, if hertz and the huns were still in the league I cant help but think we would be 4th or 5th in the league at the moment. We have not kicked on from the final, and our manager has not been able to fix the problems we have had for the last 2 seasons, which is quite amazing, this team doesnt have what it takes to slug it out, but I hope to hell they waken up. This league is absolutely terrible,were supposed to (on paper) have the best team but were struggling. Really not good enough from the players or the manager.

QMU-1875
15-10-2016, 05:17 PM
Maybe I'm being unrealistic, but I think we should still beat a poor Raith side who are set up to not lose even if we have 10 men.
Not unrealistic, but without doubt difficult for any team to win with ten men no matter who they are playing. We turned in a very good performance after going down to ten and were unlucky not to score. It sounded like the referee has turned down two very strong penalty claims, if you dont get the decisions you dont win games sometimes.

Shrekko
15-10-2016, 05:23 PM
Thing for me is, if hertz and the huns were still in the league I cant help but think we would be 4th or 5th in the league at the moment. We have not kicked on from the final, and our manager has not been able to fix the problems we have had for the last 2 seasons, which is quite amazing, this team doesnt have what it takes to slug it out, but I hope to hell they waken up. This league is absolutely terrible,were supposed to (on paper) have the best team but were struggling. Really not good enough from the players or the manager.

No denying we've hit a rocky patch but you'd still think that we'll get stronger as this season goes on. We're not playing catch up this time.

The league maybe isn't high in quality but it's incredibly competitive and at least we're not capitulating in games.

As far as today goes the 2nd half was a very good performance. We went at them hammer and tongs and there was some excellent stuff from Holt and Keatings in particular. The defence was dogged and aggressive and we were so unlucky that many of the numerous balls across the box didn't quite find a man. Referee made some awful lazy decisions in the box and we can consider ourselves unlucky. 3 points next week will kick us on.

H18 SFR
15-10-2016, 05:23 PM
Top of the league after the first quarter. We take it, we build, and we bloody well get out this league.

We WILL win this league - one point or ten points, we are going to get this done.

HappyAsHellas
15-10-2016, 05:24 PM
I would hardly say we were struggling in the second half. We were the dominant team, the only team trying to win the game and created enough good chances to win a couple of games. Some of the balls put into the box from Holt and Keatings were just begging to be tapped in but no one got the final touch. Disappointed to only draw, but under the circumstances it wasn't too bad.

FifeHibs
15-10-2016, 05:43 PM
Any footage of the red card I never seen anything wrong with challenge

ancient hibee
15-10-2016, 05:50 PM
Thing for me is, if hertz and the huns were still in the league I cant help but think we would be 4th or 5th in the league at the moment. We have not kicked on from the final, and our manager has not been able to fix the problems we have had for the last 2 seasons, which is quite amazing, this team doesnt have what it takes to slug it out, but I hope to hell they waken up. This league is absolutely terrible,were supposed to (on paper) have the best team but were struggling. Really not good enough from the players or the manager.

Do you think it's fair to criticise the manager because in 2/3 months he hasn't been able to fix the problems that you say we have had for two seasons?

staunchhibby
15-10-2016, 06:04 PM
Liked the way our captain tried to reason with the ref.At least he tried.Also Lennon getting on to him at the final whistle then coming across to applaud us

Wheat Hound
15-10-2016, 06:08 PM
A much more encouraging performance today in spite of an abysmal refereeing performance that at best was incompetent.
Holt made a positive difference for us. He held the ball up well and won several headers, bringing others into play. Keep him and Cummings & Keatings up there and let them develop their understanding better. The latter 2 need to anticipate the knock doens better but there were signs today that'll come.
Defence was solid; that's out best back 4 so let's stick with it.
McGinn was poor and again looked out of sorts. It's a concern but he has earned out good will and the laddie will come good again. We need to persevere with him through this bad spell.
Good to see the fans get behind the team and applaud their efforts at the end.
Top of the League by default rather than by design but psychologically I think it's important nonetheless. A win at Dunfy next week solidifies that and thereafter we have 3 of the next 4 games at home; a potentially season defining spell.
All in all, more positives than negatives today and a marked improvement on last week's shocker.

StevieT
15-10-2016, 08:04 PM
Any footage of the red card I never seen anything wrong with challenge

As soon as it happened I was telling the folk around me that it was Bartley who was walking. He was fouled, perhaps more of a barge that a trip, and as he 'stumbled' forward he kicked out with his left foot. It was more of a flick than a kick but the referee was close by and it was always going to be a red. Stupid thing to do and hopefully he gets the blocking he deserves.

The annoying thing is that, under the laws of the game, the referee was right to red card him but it's the persistent, niggly fouls that other teams get away with which really grinds. A red card for a flick and yet the Raith player left his foot in on Fyvie earlier in the half and never even got spoken to.

Heisenberg
16-10-2016, 07:28 AM
Just saw the sending off. Wow :rolleyes: He's clearly saying Bartley kicked out at the Raith player but all i see is the natural action of a player falling over after being fouled? What a joke.

FifeHibs
16-10-2016, 07:42 AM
[QUOTE=Heisenberg;4838298]Just saw the sending off. Wow :rolleyes: He's clearly saying Bartley kicked out at the Raith player but all i see is the natural action of a player falling over after being fouled? What a joke.[/QUOTE

Do you have a link to it please.

Phil MaGlass
16-10-2016, 12:01 PM
Do you think it's fair to criticise the manager because in 2/3 months he hasn't been able to fix the problems that you say we have had for two seasons?

Yes.

Onion
16-10-2016, 01:23 PM
[QUOTE=Heisenberg;4838298]Just saw the sending off. Wow :rolleyes: He's clearly saying Bartley kicked out at the Raith player but all i see is the natural action of a player falling over after being fouled? What a joke.[/QUOTE

Do you have a link to it please.

You REALLY do not want to see it. Horrific decision that will just enrage you and make you question that referee's motives.