Neil Findlay Msp

[ronaldo7]

It seems Neil, the tribune of the left(Jimmy Johnstone was more left wing than him), has been trumpeting the Daily express again.

Labour spin and lies found out again.

https://t.co/iX3igf3Kn5

[oldbutdim]

In this case it's just Neil commenting on a press story - you could argue that the Express is hardly likely to be 'factual' all the time, but I can't see that Neil has done anything underhand?

Or am I missing the point..............
:confused:

[marinello59]

In this case it's just Neil commenting on a press story - you could argue that the Express is hardly likely to be 'factual' all the time, but I can't see that Neil has done anything underhand?

Or am I missing the point..............
:confused:

Aye. HE is a Labour MSP so he is evil. Keep up. :greengrin

[Geo_1875]

In this case it's just Neil commenting on a press story - you could argue that the Express is hardly likely to be 'factual' all the time, but I can't see that Neil has done anything underhand?

Or am I missing the point..............
:confused:

He could have checked the facts quite easily (others did) and refrained from having a personal dig when he realised that the Express article was inaccurate.

But maybe that's expecting too much from a public servant.

[SHODAN]

One would think that a supposedly "left-wing" MSP would refuse to associate himself in any way with the Daily "IMMIGRANTS WANT TO KILL YOUR FAMILY/XMAS" Express, the UK's premier bastion of hate. Guess not when it's an SNP BAD story.

[marinello59]

One would think that a supposedly "left-wing" MSP would refuse to associate himself in any way with the Daily "IMMIGRANTS WANT TO KILL YOUR FAMILY/XMAS" Express, the UK's premier bastion of hate. Guess not when it's an SNP BAD story.

Hes a politician being a politician. Regardless of party they are all prone to the same behaviour. He has tweeted this non-news story because it suits him just as the SNP were happy to toady to Murdoch to get the Sun on side when it suited them. They are all the same.

[Geo_1875]

Hes a politician being a politician. Regardless of party they are all prone to the same behaviour. He has tweeted this non-news story because it suits him just as the SNP were happy to toady to Murdoch to get the Sun on side when it suited them. They are all the same.

No he's a twat being a twat the same as everybody else who has retweeted something without checking for accuracy.

His personal dig at Ms Black was something else though and I reckon he should apologise or be held to account.

[Beefster]

Until he's posed in the Express offices with a copy of that day's Express, the faux outrage is a bit hypocritical IMHO.

[SHODAN]

Hes a politician being a politician. Regardless of party they are all prone to the same behaviour. He has tweeted this non-news story because it suits him just as the SNP were happy to toady to Murdoch to get the Sun on side when it suited them. They are all the same.

Sad but true. The day that people on the left refuse to associate in any way with media that promotes hate would be a good day indeed. And a pipe dream.

[ronaldo7]

No he's a twat being a twat the same as everybody else who has retweeted something without checking for accuracy.

His personal dig at Ms Black was something else though and I reckon he should apologise or be held to account.

How do you hold someone to account who canny even dae up his shirt.

17494:tee hee:

[marinello59]

No he's a twat being a twat the same as everybody else who has retweeted something without checking for accuracy.

His personal dig at Ms Black was something else though and I reckon he should apologise or be held to account.

Actually I think you are agreeing with me here. I agree he should apologise. Black did nothing wrong.

[oldbutdim]

How do you hold someone to account who canny even dae up his shirt.

17494:tee hee:

Ouch!

[lucky]

It seems Neil, the tribune of the left(Jimmy Johnstone was more left wing than him), has been trumpeting the Daily express again.

Labour spin and lies found out again.

https://t.co/iX3igf3Kn5

Jeezo is that the best you can come up with? On the day a third SNP MP has been summed to a police station over financial issues you post crap about shirt buttons and a quote in the paper. Any comment on hospital closures or the mess police Scotland is in ? No because your more interested in being anti Labour than anything else.

[ronaldo7]

Jeezo is that the best you can come up with? On the day a third SNP MP has been summed to a police station over financial issues you post crap about shirt buttons and a quote in the paper. Any comment on hospital closures or the mess police Scotland is in ? No because your more interested in being anti Labour than anything else.

:faf: I wondered when you'd come out of hiding.

Not heard from you since you came third a few months ago, although you seem to keep a close eye on the McGarry case:greengrin

You can keep yer Anas sarwar spin for a while thanks, when he gets down to his last £500k, I might start listening

Welcome back.:aok:

[lucky]

:faf: I wondered when you'd come out of hiding.

Not heard from you since you came third a few months ago, although you seem to keep a close eye on the McGarry case:greengrin

You can keep yer Anas sarwar spin for a while thanks, when he gets down to his last £500k, I might start listening

Welcome back.:aok:

Not been anywhere just not bothered replying to your posts. But yet again you post on a thread while failing to answer any questions or stay on the subject. I take it WoS don't a bit for you to link. As finishing third, I take it your happy the Tories are the opposition now?

[ronaldo7]

Not been anywhere just not bothered replying to your posts. But yet again you post on a thread while failing to answer any questions or stay on the subject. I take it WoS don't a bit for you to link. As finishing third, I take it your happy the Tories are the opposition now?

The subject is actually yer pal Neil Findlay, and as you mentioned WOS, I decided to have a look for you, just to see if he'd done anything on Nelly boy.

Low and behold. http://wingsoverscotland.com/expressway-to-lietown/

My best bit is where Neil decides to slate Scotrail on twitter, saying they've cancelled another train, and Scotrail have to tell him the train didn't exist.

He's not the sharpest tool in the box.

On the subject of the Tories being the opposition, it really doesn't matter to me who the opposition is, as long as they stay there. The Tories have left you far behind though, and it seems like Kezia is happy with her lot at the moment. Who am I to upset her little world.:aok:

[Jonnyboy]

The subject is actually yer pal Neil Findlay, and as you mentioned WOS, I decided to have a look for you, just to see if he'd done anything on Nelly boy.

Low and behold. http://wingsoverscotland.com/expressway-to-lietown/

My best bit is where Neil decides to slate Scotrail on twitter, saying they've cancelled another train, and Scotrail have to tell him the train didn't exist.

He's not the sharpest tool in the box.

On the subject of the Tories being the opposition, it really doesn't matter to me who the opposition is, as long as they stay there. The Tories have left you far behind though, and it seems like Kezia is happy with her lot at the moment. Who am I to upset her little world.:aok:

Jeezo, they're cancelling non-existant trains too now? :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

The low threshold of quality of those who currently have either MSP or MP after their names is staggering to me. The selection mechanisms of the parties have a lot to answer for, though to be fair who would want to be a politician these days?

I think there's a lot of truth in the saying that the electorate gets the politicians it deserves.

[ronaldo7]

Jeezo is that the best you can come up with? On the day a third SNP MP has been summed to a police station over financial issues you post crap about shirt buttons and a quote in the paper. Any comment on hospital closures or the mess police Scotland is in ? No because your more interested in being anti Labour than anything else.

Just so we're clear about one of those MP's you've alluded to.

17505

[lucky]

Just so we're clear about one of those MP's you've alluded to.

17505

That's a relief then only TWO SNP MPs being investigated and one with dodgey business practices. I'm sure that's a relief to us all

[steakbake]

That's a relief then only TWO SNP MPs being investigated and one with dodgey business practices. I'm sure that's a relief to us all

Think we've all forgotten the expenses scandal?

[lucky]

Think we've all forgotten the expenses scandal?

I hope no one has. But we did get a reminder this week when a SNP MP claimed £40 for a dog house.

We were promised a new politics but sadly all we've got is a new bunch doing the exact same thing-- feathering their own nests.

[ronaldo7]

That's a relief then only TWO SNP MPs being investigated and one with dodgey business practices. I'm sure that's a relief to us all

Somebody's got to keep you guys right, although right is what you continue to be.:wink:

And I thought you were wanting them to be innocent as well.:rolleyes:

Maybe not eh.

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?305197-Natalie-McGarry-MP-surely-not-another-one

Post 11

[cabbageandribs1875]

did jim murphy ever repay the £1.30 he claimed for 2 cans of irn bru


we need to know



sigh

[givescotlandfreedom]

My best bit is where Neil decides to slate Scotrail on twitter, saying they've cancelled another train, and Scotrail have to tell him the train didn't exist.



On the theme, I do recall Findlay (along with the greens and SSP) speaking up for the recently striking ScotRail conductors and the importance of the role whilst Sturgeon lied about the role, belittled the RMT members as well as the nature of the dispute in FMQs whilst she and Yosef propped up an army of scab labour to the detriment of public safety and at the taxpayers' expense. Identical tactics to the Tories at Westminster.

[lucky]

Somebody's got to keep you guys right, although right is what you continue to be.:wink:

And I thought you were wanting them to be innocent as well.:rolleyes:

Maybe not eh.

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?305197-Natalie-McGarry-MP-surely-not-another-one

Post 11

You stalking me? I hate the idea she's ripped off the people she was meant to representing. But keep searching through my posts. At least your quoting me not WoS

Your use of emojis is as boring as your arguments. You set up a thread to attack a respected trade union supporting left wing MSP based on the fact he was quoted in a paper. You may never be right but you are very much on the right

[lucky]

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-e71c-The-SNP-might-talk-left-in-Westminster-but-they-act-right-in-Holyrood#.V_ORyJMrIRF

[steakbake]

There is every chance, given the past few days which has seen the likes of obedient retainers Mundell and Davidson jumping on the hard-brexit line, that they could lose support in Scotland. If the UK union is valuable to those recently converted voters, then Labour might be playing their cards right if they remain on that track to represent the views of unionists, remainers and 'soft' leavers who see the huge danger of a 'hard' brexit.

The other issue is the Great Repeal Act. Mundell/Davidson claiming that as it is foreign affairs, it will be reserved. Not quite as simple as that... there's a long amount of track to run on that. Labour should (though I doubt the McBain doctrine will help) get their shoulder to the wheel to make the case that the Scottish Parliament must have a say. It affects a huge range of domestic, devolved legislation though unintentionally so, that does not lessen the impact.

Other funny thing is that this all depends on UKGov getting a deal with the EU. They may not get any agreement as EU27 are very unlikely to agree to a deal if it does not absolutely suit them. Then we're in a very different ballgame... a leave vote, leave negotiations and no deal.

UKGov think that they have the ace hand. Really, they don't.

[ronaldo7]

It looks like Neil, the tribune of the left, voted with the Tories this evening to trigger article 50.

Oh well, at least he didn't abstain eh.:rolleyes:

[allmodcons]

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-e71c-The-SNP-might-talk-left-in-Westminster-but-they-act-right-in-Holyrood#.V_ORyJMrIRF

No surprise there. He, like you, has a "pathological hatred" of the SNP.

Would appear, however, that your heroic left wing MSP is happy to support the Tories in the Scottish Parliament.

I know you admire this guy, but he fast turning himself in to a joke of a MSP.

So blinded by his hatred of the SNP that he simply doesn't think straight.

I've said on here before that I could find common ground with Labour supporters but guys like Findlay can't see the wood for the trees. He needs to accept that the SNP have replaced Labour as Scotland's dominant political party and start acting like a grown up politician.

[lucky]

Many on the left support leaving the EU as they see it as anti worker. That does not mean they are pro Tory. Really quite a narrow view to judge Neil in this manner. But what about MSPs like Alex Neil who voted out in the referendum but failed to follow their own convictions in the Scots parliament? Also I don't get why this was even voted on as it's a reserved matter and we have elected MPs to vote on this. Can you imagine the out cry if Westminster voted on devolved matters.

For the record I voted remain

[ronaldo7]

Oh Neil, what have you done. Lining your pockets from the likes of Amazon, after having a pop at them for being an exploiter.

I would have thought he'd have specified that Amazon should not be used for his upcoming book. I'm sure he never knew the publisher would use one of the world's largest sales outlets.:rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/politics/1476397/neil-findlay-msp-labour-amazon/

[Future17]

Oh Neil, what have you done. Lining your pockets from the likes of Amazon, after having a pop at them for being an exploiter.

I would have thought he'd have specified that Amazon should not be used for his upcoming book. I'm sure he never knew the publisher would use one of the world's largest sales outlets.:rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/politics/1476397/neil-findlay-msp-labour-amazon/

Is it actually possible to prevent Amazon from selling your product?

Surely they could just purchase from wholesalers?

[ronaldo7]

Is it actually possible to prevent Amazon from selling your product?

Surely they could just purchase from wholesalers?

I don't know if Neil asked about it. :greengrin

Maybe he could put any profit to a good cause eh.

[Future17]

I don't know if Neil asked about it. :greengrin

Maybe he could put any profit to a good cause eh.

Nope, you've lost me. Is this something you're saying he should have done but didn't, or something he shouldn't have done but did?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I don't know if Neil asked about it. :greengrin

Maybe he could put any profit to a good cause eh.

I believe all proceeds are going to good causes.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Oh Neil, what have you done. Lining your pockets from the likes of Amazon, after having a pop at them for being an exploiter.

I would have thought he'd have specified that Amazon should not be used for his upcoming book. I'm sure he never knew the publisher would use one of the world's largest sales outlets.:rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/politics/1476397/neil-findlay-msp-labour-amazon/

If you click on that you're helping fund the Murdoch press too so that's a toughie. Nicola likes the Sun though which cemented my vote for the Greens.

[marinello59]

If you click on that you're helping fund the Murdoch press too so that's a toughie. Nicola likes the Sun though which cemented my vote for the Greens.

I can only assume that R7 has come up with one of the most contrived digs at any politician you are ever likely to see in order to boost clicks on one of his favoured publications. :greengrin

[ronaldo7]

I believe all proceeds are going to good causes.

Which "Good causes" would these be?


I can only assume that R7 has come up with one of the most contrived digs at any politician you are ever likely to see in order to boost clicks on one of his favoured publications. :greengrin

Ahh, the gangs all here.:greengrin

It's certainly got this place moving again, and even you know my fav blogger is far superior to the Murdoch minions.

As for Findlay, he's been more than outed by the current bun for the hypocrite he is. Happy to use Amazon for his ill gotten gains, when he could have ensured they were never to be used for distribution.

He's been leading Jeremy a merry dance throughout Scotland for the last few days, it's like watching John McTernan at work.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Which "Good causes" would these be?



Ahh, the gangs all here.:greengrin

It's certainly got this place moving again, and even you know my fav blogger is far superior to the Murdoch minions.

As for Findlay, he's been more than outed by the current bun for the hypocrite he is. Happy to use Amazon for his ill gotten gains, when he could have ensured they were never to be used for distribution.

He's been leading Jeremy a merry dance throughout Scotland for the last few days, it's like watching John McTernan at work.

I dont know which good causes, i just know that he specified good causes would receive all funds.

Take from that what you will.

[CropleyWasGod]

I dont know which good causes, i just know that he specified good causes would receive all funds.

Take from that what you will.Kez's leaving present [emoji13]

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[snooky]

Kez's leaving present [emoji13]

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A prez for Kez for leaving a mez. --> :chop:

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Kez's leaving present [emoji13]

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😁

[lucky]

Oh Neil, what have you done. Lining your pockets from the likes of Amazon, after having a pop at them for being an exploiter.

I would have thought he'd have specified that Amazon should not be used for his upcoming book. I'm sure he never knew the publisher would use one of the world's largest sales outlets.:rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/politics/1476397/neil-findlay-msp-labour-amazon/

Two things, one you can't stop booksellers selling a book on Amazon and secondly he's making no money out of the book. But FFS Ron quoting the Sun is worse than your usual sources

[ronaldo7]

I see, Neil, has been having a go again. Not sure what to make of his ramblings this time. I wonder if his book is written in the same form. :wink:

https://t.co/o0k649wO4F

[johnbc70]

I see, Neil, has been having a go again. Not sure what to make of his ramblings this time. I wonder if his book is written in the same form. :wink:

https://t.co/o0k649wO4F

Before I click is that another link to the Sun you have posted?

[One Day Soon]

Before I click is that another link to the Sun you have posted?

lol

[ronaldo7]

Before I click is that another link to the Sun you have posted?

Torygraph, you'll be used to that. :wink:

[lucky]

Before I click is that another link to the Sun you have posted?

Don’t worry it’s a non story he’s pushing this time from the most balanced of Scottish newspapers the National obviously his favoured “wings” website must be down just now

[bawheid]

Don’t worry it’s a non story he’s pushing this time from the most balanced of Scottish newspapers the National obviously his favoured “wings” website must be down just now

I saw the tweet from Neil Findlay and was genuinely confused at what he was getting at. He’s always seemed a decent sort to me. You seem to know him quite well; can you clear it up?

[ronaldo7]

Don’t worry it’s a non story he’s pushing this time from the most balanced of Scottish newspapers the National obviously his favoured “wings” website must be down just now

It took you a while. Maybe you could answer for, Neil, regarding his tweet. What was he saying? Why was he responding to the FM in such a way?

How can you feel it a non story, when the public purse is paying for, Neil, and he comes out with this drivel?

Surely you want better from your elected officials?

[marinello59]

It took you a while. Maybe you could answer for, Neil, regarding his tweet. What was he saying? Why was he responding to the FM in such a way?

How can you feel it a non story, when the public purse is paying for, Neil, and he comes out with this drivel?

Surely you want better from your elected officials?

Wow. Even more contortions as you try to make this a major news item. It was a stupid tweet, only he knows what he was going on about. There’s nowt so dumb as politicians of all parties at times.

[ronaldo7]

Wow. Even more contortions as you try to make this a major news item. It was a stupid tweet, only he knows what he was going on about. There’s nowt so dumb as politicians of all parties at times.

Are we not allowed to ask questions of someone who is close to Neil?

Maybe Lucky knows more to the tweet than we do. Others on here have asked the same questions, what's the problem with asking?

[marinello59]

Are we not allowed to ask questions of someone who is close to Neil?

Maybe Lucky knows more to the tweet than we do. Others on here have asked the same questions, what's the problem with asking?

Nowt wrong with asking if you really think this is one of the most pressing issues of our time. The stench of hypocricy here as SNP supporters take offence is breathtaking though. When Johann Lamont was getting pelters for her Scottish working class accent I didn’t notice any SNP supporters here rushing to her defence.
Civic Nationalists seem to love a wee bit of mock outrage though so fill your boots.:aok:

[ronaldo7]

Nowt wrong with asking if you really think this is one of the most pressing issues of our time. The stench of hypocricy here as SNP supporters take offence is breathtaking though. When Johann Lamont was getting pelters for her Scottish working class accent I didn’t notice any SNP supporters here rushing to her defence.
Civic Nationalists seem to love a wee bit of mock outrage though so fill your boots.:aok:

Thanks for that, I thought we were having restrictions imposed for our line of questioning. Maybe Lucky will be along in an hour or so to help us out.

Your straw man argument on JOLO is deflection at it's best.

[marinello59]

Thanks for that, I thought we were having restrictions imposed for our line of questioning. Maybe Lucky will be along in an hour or so to help us out.

Your straw man argument on JOLO is deflection at it's best.

If I was attempting to defend the tweet or the politicician who sent it then it would be deflection. I’m not.

[ronaldo7]

If I was attempting to defend the tweet or the politicician who sent it then it would be deflection. I’m not.

Great.

Maybe we can get back on track now with regards to the tweet and what it was about.

[jonty]

Wow. Even more contortions as you try to make this a major news item. It was a stupid tweet, only he knows what he was going on about. There’s nowt so dumb as politicians of all parties at times.

to be fair, a quoted tweet in a post on hibs.net isn't likely to turn it into a major news article.
Imagine the chaos. Every front page and website would be pushing 'YAM', 'LTYF', 'Striker Required', and my personal favourite 'Match Day Thread - 40 page supplement' :greengrin

[lucky]

I’m not on Twitter or Neil’s spokesman but Ronnie seems to have an agenda against him. I wish there were more working class socialist Msp’s in the Parliament like Neil

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I’m not on Twitter or Neil’s spokesman but Ronnie seems to have an agenda against him. I wish there were more working class socialist Msp’s in the Parliament like Neil

Wasnt he a teacher? Thats a middle class profession surely!

I hear he is a decent guy who is actually quite a good guy to habe a beer with. I dont particuarly agree with his politics, but i do believe he genuinely holds them, which cant be said of them all.

Ronnie pushing an agenda...no way 😂

[JeMeSouviens]

I’m not on Twitter or Neil’s spokesman but Ronnie seems to have an agenda against him. I wish there were more working class socialist Msp’s in the Parliament like Neil

Here's the tweet (you don't need to be registered on twitter to see it btw, just click):

https://twitter.com/NeilFindlay_MSP/status/957036397864603648

I've no idea what point he's trying to make with the spelling btw, is it meant to be a pisstake on a Scots accent? Seems odd anyway.

It's also interesting that rather than replying to Sturgeon's tweet, he's screenshotted it and "replied" to the picture so she won't see it. Big woose. :rolleyes:

[lucky]

Wasnt he a teacher? Thats a middle class profession surely!

I hear he is a decent guy who is actually quite a good guy to habe a beer with. I dont particuarly agree with his politics, but i do believe he genuinely holds them, which cant be said of them all.

Ronnie pushing an agenda...no way 😂

He was a bricklayer and went to teach after gaming the qualifications whilst grafting as a brickie

[lucky]

Here's the tweet (you don't need to be registered on twitter to see it btw, just click):

https://twitter.com/NeilFindlay_MSP/status/957036397864603648

I've no idea what point he's trying to make with the spelling btw, is it meant to be a pisstake on a Scots accent? Seems odd anyway.

It's also interesting that rather than replying to Sturgeon's tweet, he's screenshotted it and "replied" to the picture so she won't see it. Big woose. :rolleyes:

I believe it was a dig at the National rather than NS but that’s me guessing

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

He was a bricklayer and went to teach after gaming the qualifications whilst grafting as a brickie

So he bettered himself... social mobility in action 😈

[Hibrandenburg]

So he bettered himself... social mobility in action 😈

I'll take the bait. It depends on what you consider as bettering yourself. I know a few brickies that earn 10 times that what teachers do.

[ronaldo7]

I’m not on Twitter or Neil’s spokesman but Ronnie seems to have an agenda against him. I wish there were more working class socialist Msp’s in the Parliament like Neil

It was Neil that tweeted what he did, are we not to hold msp's to account for their actions, or does that only hold when it's in other parties.

If only people didn't have an agenda against mcgarry and Thompson eh.

Let he who is without sin "chuck the first stane".😁

I suppose we'll never know what he meant as he's not responding to the requests to explain himself.

Big fearty.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I'll take the bait. It depends on what you consider as bettering yourself. I know a few brickies that earn 10 times that what teachers do.

You know people who earn 250k - 300k+ a year from laying bricks? Where do i sign?

Might explain the cost rises at tynie though...

[Hibrandenburg]

You know people who earn 250k - 300k+ a year from laying bricks? Where do i sign?

Might explain the cost rises at tynie though...

I know a few brickies that invest in building land and then build and sell houses. I know a couple who buy old rundown properties and then modernise them before selling on for massive profits.

[JeMeSouviens]

I know a few brickies that invest in building land and then build and sell houses. I know a couple who buy old rundown properties and then modernise them before selling on for massive profits.

Does "property developer" == "brickie"?

[Beefster]

It was Neil that tweeted what he did, are we not to hold msp's to account for their actions, or does that only hold when it's in other parties.

If only people didn't have an agenda against mcgarry and Thompson eh.

Let he who is without sin "chuck the first stane".😁

I suppose we'll never know what he meant as he's not responding to the requests to explain himself.

Big fearty.

We should definitely hold them to account on the stuff that matters. A relatively benign tweet that has only really sparked faux outrage? Not so much.

[Hibrandenburg]

Does "property developer" == "brickie"?

If they're brickies then yes. The fact they're brickies with initiative doesn't alter the fact they're brickies.

[marinello59]

If they're brickies then yes. The fact they're brickies with initiative doesn't alter the fact they're brickies.

So you would describe Stewart Milne’s occupation as joiner?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I know a few brickies that invest in building land and then build and sell houses. I know a couple who buy old rundown properties and then modernise them before selling on for massive profits.

So they have become property developers then? Reinforces my point about social mobility.

[Hibrandenburg]

So they have become property developers then? Reinforces my point about social mobility.

So if someone spends months building something and only a day selling it he's a salesman? I think they are how they see themselves and not how others decide to label them. Haven't we just had the same conversation on another thread about political parties? :greengrin

[RyeSloan]

So you would describe Stewart Milne’s occupation as joiner?

Tom Farmer = Tyre Fitter [emoji16]

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

So if someone spends months building something and only a day selling it he's a salesman? I think they are how they see themselves and not how others decide to label them. Haven't we just had the same conversation on another thread about political parties? :greengrin

But surely you can see the distinction between someone being paid to lay bricks, and someone devlopinh and building homes? The point being that the person laying the bricks isnt paid a six figure salary. The person with the capital to buy the land, invest in building the house then sell it, is. Thats not being a brickie, thats owning a building company.