Barton banned from Greyskull?

[Hibeesmad]

Look forward to the stories once he leaves 😁

[Jim44]

The good thing about all this is, Barton will spill the beans about everything that lot try and do. He will also talk about any sectarian sheite thats alive and kicking through the corridors of ipox.

Its a win win situation for the rest of us. :top marks


Look forward to the stories once he leaves 😁

Popcorn time.:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Popcorn time.:greengrin

Not so sure can see a payoff with non-disclosure type clause agreed.

[magpie1892]

Not so sure can see a payoff with non-disclosure type clause agreed.

I don't see Barton signing an NDA - it's contrary to how he has behaved for as long as he's been a footballer and, presumably, his entire life. The hun don't have the money to pay up his contract as it is - if they ask him to sign an NDA he's entitled to turn round and say: 'what's in it for me?'

The whole thing is absolutely hilarious. Signing Barton has proven to be an horrendous act of folly but bringing in Senderos and Krancjar as well has kept fans of every other club in Scotland endlessly amused.

The funniest part is that a fair proportion of their fans thought they were going to win the SPFL at their first attempt.

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[Jim44]

Not so sure can see a payoff with non-disclosure type clause agreed.

Nah, there's still some juicy meat in this story. Barton's not going to ride off into the sunset without ruffling a few feathers in the next couple of weeks.

[brog]

A horse I have a share in just beat JB's horse at Ffos Las! Barton's is called We are the people!!

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Reporting Scotland more or less saying that he is finished.

[Swedish hibee]

I actually like Joey Barton. Am I the only person who does?

[blaikie]

I actually like Joey Barton. Am I the only person who does?

He didn't have much of an up bringing, he sometimes comes across as reasonable and level headed then does something that makes me reconsider!

[Bostonhibby]

I actually like Joey Barton. Am I the only person who does?
He's doing a great job at ibrox. Senderos will be an even better drain on them than Barton so I am quite fond of him as well[emoji6]

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[Aldo]

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Barton, Senderos, Clint Hill and Kranjaer probably taking close to £50,000 a week between them. Superb business!!

All passengers in a poor Newco team!

[Bostonhibby]

Barton, Senderos, Clint Hill and Kranjaer probably taking close to £50,000 a week between them. Superb business!!

All passengers in a poor Newco team!
Agree, it's like a pensioners lunch club. Just hope the warbler doesn't get sacked over these abysmal signings. We need him to stay.

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[Aldo]

Agree, it's like a pensioners lunch club. Just hope the warbler doesn't get sacked over these abysmal signings. We need him to stay. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using Tapatalk

They can't afford to sack him so he stays I would suggest!

It's what happens when your chairman has no money to put into his club!

I think it's superb.

[Onion]

Reporting Scotland more or less saying that he is finished.

Sevco media briefings are working a treat.

[Golden Bear]

I heard today that JB is on a megabucks salary (in fact the amount was quite unbelievable) Further news was that King is not ploughing in the expected cash and it's not inconceivable that the Rangers could be in further financial difficulties before too long.

[Golden Bear]

Barton, Senderos, Clint Hill and Kranjaer probably taking close to £50,000 a week between them. Superb business!!

All passengers in a poor Newco team!

The £50,000 barely covers one of these guys salaries.

[BoomtownHibees]

I heard today that JB is on a megabucks salary (in fact the amount was quite unbelievable) Further news was that King is not ploughing in the expected cash and it's not inconceivable that the Rangers could be in further financial difficulties before too long.

£30k for JB?

[Onion]

The £50,000 barely covers one of these guys salaries.

Does within an EBT :wink:

[Aldo]

The £50,000 barely covers one of these guys salaries.

Oooofffttt!! Even better!

That's crazy money for a club with not allot of money!!

Keep up the good work bread man

[K-Zazu]

Couldn't a footballer just give his mate say a grand and put a bet on a game?

[JimBHibees]

Starting to think this might be a contrived story of fallouts that may suit both parties.

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[WoreTheGreen]

Couldn't a footballer just give his mate say a grand and put a bet on a game?

He did but the white gloves and ill fitting bowler hat gave the game away

[Onion]

Why does everything the Huns do, and affects them adversely, simply remind me of that great day in May, and make it all the sweeter ?

[magpie1892]

Barton, Senderos, Clint Hill and Kranjaer probably taking close to £50,000 a week between them. Superb business!!

All passengers in a poor Newco team!

Closer to £80k a week between them. Glorious.

[Aldo]

Closer to £80k a week between them. Glorious.

Even better news!!

[jacomo]

Closer to £80k a week between them. Glorious.

Who on earth was in charge of The Rangers transfer policy this summer.

The Scottish league is not the MLS, but I can just about understand one over the hill 'marquee' signing to increase profile and boost shirt sales. It would have to be someone good, of course.

But 4 over the hill signings? 2 of them journeymen defenders, one radge, and one attacking player who peaked a good five years ago??

Lol.

[The Green Goblin]

Closer to £80k a week between them. Glorious.

Blind arrogance and a failure to learn from past experiences are a potent combination. When they die, we will be able to say with some truth that they really are "back where they belong".

[Smartie]

Who on earth was in charge of The Rangers transfer policy this summer.

The Scottish league is not the MLS, but I can just about understand one over the hill 'marquee' signing to increase profile and boost shirt sales. It would have to be someone good, of course.

But 4 over the hill signings? 2 of them journeymen defenders, one radge, and one attacking player who peaked a good five years ago??

Lol.

Particularly considering how good the transfer business was that they did on the previous 2 windows.

I honestly thought that Warburton was doing a cracking job, unearthing very good, young players with a decent potential sell on value at low prices.

These signings are exactly the sort of nonsense that got them into trouble in the first place.

[Deansy]

Who on earth was in charge of The Rangers transfer policy this summer.

The Scottish league is not the MLS, but I can just about understand one over the hill 'marquee' signing to increase profile and boost shirt sales. It would have to be someone good, of course.

But 4 over the hill signings? 2 of them journeymen defenders, one radge, and one attacking player who peaked a good five years ago??

Lol.

It looks like the management of the club, same as it's support, actually believe that the 'success' the previous version of the Hun had - during Murray's time - was actually achieved through football means !. The same's happening (although, sadly, to a lesser extent) at the PBS with it's management and support still regularly talking of winning the league. Both clubs had a run of 30+ years using money they simply didn't have but in that time, a mind-set's been created that's completely erased all memory of how their club's performed BEFORE money came into it !

[leithsansiro]

Who on earth was in charge of The Rangers transfer policy this summer.

The Scottish league is not the MLS, but I can just about understand one over the hill 'marquee' signing to increase profile and boost shirt sales. It would have to be someone good, of course.

But 4 over the hill signings? 2 of them journeymen defenders, one radge, and one attacking player who peaked a good five years ago??

Lol.

They are the club that keeps on giving! If I supported The Rangers, I'd be furious at how badly they'd messed up their debut season in the SPL. But I dont, so it's just funny.

Ha ha!

[GreenLake]

Who on earth was in charge of The Rangers transfer policy this summer.

The Scottish league is not the MLS, but I can just about understand one over the hill 'marquee' signing to increase profile and boost shirt sales. It would have to be someone good, of course.

But 4 over the hill signings? 2 of them journeymen defenders, one radge, and one attacking player who peaked a good five years ago??

Lol.

You observe commercial reasons for signing these players but Robbie Keane, Stevie G, Ashley Cole, Kaka, Drogba, David Villa and Pirlo would not be sitting on the bench in any SPL team. These are truly world class players and still able to play far above the level of anyone I have seen in the SPL apart from SJM. :greengrin

[jacomo]

Barton claims in his autobiography that Celtc tried to sign him from under The Rangers nose.

Today, Lawwell has said that, in fact, an agent called him and said Barton was keen to join Celtc... but they weren't interested.

[Geo_1875]

You observe commercial reasons for signing these players but Robbie Keane, Stevie G, Ashley Cole, Kaka, Drogba, David Villa and Pirlo would not be sitting on the bench in any SPL team. These are truly world class players and still able to play far above the level of anyone I have seen in the SPL apart from SJM. :greengrin

And if SKY weren't chucking obscene amounts of money at the MLS they wouldn't be playing over there.

[DH1875]

And if SKY weren't chucking obscene amounts of money at the MLS they wouldn't be playing over there.

Do SKY pump millions into the MLS?

[magpie1892]

Do SKY pump millions into the MLS?

No.

NBC Sports Network that have the MLS contract for about £70m a season. Sky pick up, I think, two games a week which get pitiful viewing figures, and that will be reflected in what Sky pay for their licence. A few mill a season, absolute tops. As discussed, the the the rangers will pay £4m this year for the unique talents of Barton, Senderdross, Krancjar and Hill in wages alone.

[GreenLake]

No.

NBC Sports Network that have the MLS contract for about £70m a season. Sky pick up, I think, two games a week which get pitiful viewing figures, and that will be reflected in what Sky pay for their licence. A few mill a season, absolute tops. As discussed, the the the rangers will pay £4m this year for the unique talents of Barton, Senderdross, Krancjar and Hill in wages alone.

NBC and ESPN pay $75m between them and Univision pays $15m so total of $90 which is just the US rights I think but that includes USMT international games. I wonder what SKY pays for UK rights.

[3pm]

See Joey has tweeted about today being 'International day of peace'!

'Spread goodwill to all humankind' he says...

[magpie1892]

NBC and ESPN pay $75m between them and Univision pays $15m so total of $90 which is just the US rights I think but that includes USMT international games. I wonder what SKY pays for UK rights.

$90m = £69.33m so I wasn't far off.

As stated, I reckon Sky will pay a few mill per season for the rights. About 1/4 of the the rangers' annual wage bill.

[GreenLake]

$90m = £69.33m so I wasn't far off.

As stated, I reckon Sky will pay a few mill per season for the rights. About 1/4 of the the rangers' wage bill.

You would have been spot on before Brexit!

[magpie1892]

You would have been spot on before Brexit!

A wee bit over!

I do a lot of work for Middle East companies who pay me in USD, so I have inadvertently had a 13% pay rise since June...

[jacomo]

You observe commercial reasons for signing these players but Robbie Keane, Stevie G, Ashley Cole, Kaka, Drogba, David Villa and Pirlo would not be sitting on the bench in any SPL team. These are truly world class players and still able to play far above the level of anyone I have seen in the SPL apart from SJM. :greengrin

They were world class once, you mean. Fine players all, but the MLS is a retirement home.

I do honestly think Sevco thought they'd stroll it this season, and sold these old guys on the dream. But they can't keep up!

[brog]

Who on earth was in charge of The Rangers transfer policy this summer.

The Scottish league is not the MLS, but I can just about understand one over the hill 'marquee' signing to increase profile and boost shirt sales. It would have to be someone good, of course.

But 4 over the hill signings? 2 of them journeymen defenders, one radge, and one attacking player who peaked a good five years ago??

Lol.

John James suggests that Magic Hat had no say in the Barton signing & reacted angrily to the Lying King etc when challenged about the Celtc result. Interesting times!

[GreenLake]

A wee bit over!

I do a lot of work for Middle East companies who pay me in USD, so I have inadvertently had a 13% pay rise since June...

Fund managers would kill for 13%

[GreenLake]

They were world class once, you mean. Fine players all, but the MLS is a retirement home.

I do honestly think Sevco thought they'd stroll it this season, and sold these old guys on the dream. But they can't keep up!

Still, those players would walk out of MLS retirement home into any team in Scotland and bench whoever is in their positions.

[Dashing Bob S]

They were world class once, you mean. Fine players all, but the MLS is a retirement home.

I do honestly think Sevco thought they'd stroll it this season, and sold these old guys on the dream. But they can't keep up!

MLS retirement home for flinty old ****gers in the Californian sun.

Sevco retirement home for drooling incontinents in windswept rainy Saltcoats run by shysters fiddling DHS.

[GreenLake]

MLS retirement home for flinty old ****gers in the Californian sun.

Sevco retirement home for drooling incontinents in windswept rainy Saltcoats run by shysters fiddling DHS.


They are not all in California. Montreal? A wee bit nippy at times. Seattle and Portland? pishing down with rain. Chicago? Windy and cold. New York? Severe weather there. :greengrin

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

Starting to think this might be a contrived story of fallouts that may suit both parties.

Yes a bit like "pick a window, yer leavin..."

The betting thing could be a good way out for both parties. Broke rules but didn't know - daft rule anyway given its a competition The Rangers aren't playing in and it wasn't his team - it would my even be The Gers' rules applied so they're clean and Joey has a route out of his "living Nightmare" whilst retaining a strong sense of injustice and a chapter for his revised book... Plus a hushed payoff.

[Smartie]

They are not all in California. Montreal? A wee bit nippy at times. Seattle and Portland? pishing down with rain. Chicago? Windy and cold. New York? Severe weather there. :greengrin

17474

True, but even Charlotte at the moment looks like a picnic compared to Glasgow.

[magpie1892]

Yes a bit like "pick a window, yer leavin..."

The betting thing could be a good way out for both parties. Broke rules but didn't know - daft rule anyway given its a competition The Rangers aren't playing in and it wasn't his team - it would my even be The Gers' rules applied so they're clean and Joey has a route out of his "living Nightmare" whilst retaining a strong sense of injustice and a chapter for his revised book... Plus a hushed payoff.

I maintain that a pay-off is going to cost the the rangers over a million quid, easy.

It's a toss-up between Barton and Ian Black as to which is the worst signing in newco's brief history. Black got three years out of them at £8k/week plus bonuses...

Loving it.

[worcesterhibby]

just reported on the BBC .. Rangers midfielder Joey Barton is currently serving a three-week club suspension but claims his career with the Ibrox side is not over.

He posted on Twitter: "(I'm) not going anywhere, happy to be judged after the season. Played 8 games. Had to use some for fitness as had no pre season!


"Can't wait to get back and show what am about. Came to be successful. Nothing's changed. Thanks for the support."


Good to hear he is intending to keep his snout in the Ibrox trough !

[CallumLaidlaw]

just reported on the BBC .. Rangers midfielder Joey Barton is currently serving a three-week club suspension but claims his career with the Ibrox side is not over.

He posted on Twitter: "(I'm) not going anywhere, happy to be judged after the season. Played 8 games. Had to use some for fitness as had no pre season!


"Can't wait to get back and show what am about. Came to be successful. Nothing's changed. Thanks for the support."


Good to hear he is intending to keep his snout in the Ibrox trough !

Why did he have no pre season? Wasn't he signed the week of the cup final?


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[worcesterhibby]

Why did he have no pre season? Wasn't he signed the week of the cup final?


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Surely he was training somewhere ? or had he planned giving up being a professional footballer and switching to being a professional Arse on twitter ?

[GreenLake]

True, but even Charlotte at the moment looks like a picnic compared to Glasgow.

I think the huns played over is S Carolina this summer on their first ever USA trip against the Charleston Battery. I wonder what the score was? The Battery are a USL team and The Rangers are unknown to everyone so not going to make news outside the local Charleston papers.

[blackpoolhibs]

I seem to remember he was working for 5 live or talksport during the Euros, maybe that's why he was behind in pre season training?

[oldbutdim]

I thought it was merely the fact that as a convicted thug and criminal he couldn't join the pre-season bash in the goold old U S of A

[Captain Trips]

Why did he have no pre season? Wasn't he signed the week of the cup final?


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He was busy writing his book as you can see from the evidence:

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[staunchhibby]

Yep criminal conviction stopped him going to America

[PatHead]

I maintain that a pay-off is going to cost the the rangers over a million quid, easy.

It's a toss-up between Barton and Ian Black as to which is the worst signing in newco's brief history. Black got three years out of them at £8k/week plus bonuses...

Loving it.

Templeton must be one of the worst value signings in the history of the club. Where is he nowadays?

[GreenLake]

Yep criminal conviction stopped him going to America

I guess King would have missed the trip as well then.

[Bostonhibby]

I guess King would have missed the trip as well then.

Never really thought about the true impact of a "glib and mendacious liar" with 63 tax convictions running your club - Would his many convictions have stopped him from travelling from Hampden to Govan on that fateful Saturday where he allegedly declared Ibrox open for their cup final celebrations just before Stokes left Tavernier for dead at the front post?

[magpie1892]

Templeton must be one of the worst value signings in the history of the club. Where is he nowadays?

Job Centre?


I guess King would have missed the trip as well then.

King now realises he's not going to be able to get any money out of the rangers. The plan was to try and recoup some of the £20m he *****ed on them when Murray was in charge. He wants out and I'd be surprised if he's seen at crumblebrox again.

[3pm]

Barton charged by the SFA for betting on 44 matches. Timing is probably just one of those strange coincidences.

[Billy Whizz]

Barton charged by the SFA for betting on 44 matches. Timing is probably just one of those strange coincidences.

When's his 3 week ban up?

[3pm]

When's his 3 week ban up?

Next week.

[Spike Mandela]

Barton charged by the SFA for betting on 44 matches. Timing is probably just one of those strange coincidences.

With an SFA of Regan, Ogilvie, 5 way agreements and Lord Nimmo Smith inquiries do you still think coincidences can happen?

I would bet( no pun intended😀) that you could dip your hand into any squad in Scotland and pluck out players who bet on matches and that the convenience of these charges are more than a coincidence if they act as a lever to allow Rangers to ditch Barton without paying up his contract.

[Scorrie]

Why did he have no pre season? Wasn't he signed the week of the cup final?


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He was in the bookies

[Bostonhibby]

With an SFA of Regan, Ogilvie, 5 way agreements and Lord Nimmo Smith inquiries do you still think coincidences can happen?

I would bet( no pun intended😀) that you could dip your hand into any squad in Scotland and pluck out players who bet on matches and that the convenience of these charges are more than a coincidence if they act as a lever to allow Rangers to ditch Barton without paying up his contract.
Agree. You could put your mortgage on it.

Huns can't pay so fellow huns step up and do their bit.

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[emerald green]

Barton charged by the SFA for betting on 44 matches. Timing is probably just one of those strange coincidences.

Grassed up by Lee Wallace.

[magpie1892]

Barton charged by the SFA for betting on 44 matches. Timing is probably just one of those strange coincidences.

I'd believe it was a coincidence if he'd been 'going for 55'.

[jonty]

Given that its an SFA rule and Steven Lawless banned missed 2 weeks (4 suspended until end of season) for 513 matches
he'll be pleading ignorance and shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist.
Unless of course he was betting on the rangers winning, in which case he should get a slap round the head for being so stupid.

[Billy Whizz]

Think he bet on one team/match in Scotland, Barcelona v Celtic, and the rest were all in England

[blackpoolhibs]

That prick Ian Black was done by the SFA while playing for sevco, did they manage to get him sacked with no compensation? :greengrin

They will need a little bit more than this to get him away from their cesspit without paying him a kings ransom. :aok:

[Greentinted]

Was talking about this with the manager of the local bookies I use and he was saying if every player who had a bet on football was sanctioned then there would be little time for the beaks to do anything else.
It's another big conversation granted (the whole match-fixing business and it's myriad vagaries), but for me, as long as they refrain from betting on matches involving themselves or the team they play for, then I'm thinking, so what!

[The Green Goblin]

Was talking about this with the manager of the local bookies I use and he was saying if every player who had a bet on football was sanctioned then there would be little time for the beaks to do anything else.
It's another big conversation granted (the whole match-fixing business and it's myriad vagaries), but for me, as long as they refrain from betting on matches involving themselves or the team they play for, then I'm thinking, so what!

It is a conflict of interest though, isn't it? Players have a certain amount of control or power to manipulate little things which might affect betting outcomes, or collaborate and plan things with fellow professionals to do so. They also have real inside knowledge.

[Onion]

Think he bet on one team/match in Scotland, Barcelona v Celtic, and the rest were all in England

So, we can all expect Sevco fans to be up in arms about this latest attack on one of their star players. Is there no end to the victimisation ?

[hibbysam]

It is a conflict of interest though, isn't it? Players have a certain amount of control or power to manipulate little things which might affect betting outcomes, or collaborate and plan things with fellow professionals to do so. They also have real inside knowledge.

Rubbish. Players betting on games in Spain have no more knowledge or influence on that game than Joe bloggs on the street. The rule is a cop out for the authorities to stop them having to do any work on this matter, and as said before, if they want to do everyone that places a single football bet then there won't be many players left.

I understand the rules around betting on yourself or betting on your own league, however beyond that I can't see any problem at all.

[Jack]

I understood that the bets he made would have been legal down in England.

If that is the case then sevco, knowing he likes a punt, surely have a duty to advise their new player of the differences up here. I wonder if they did.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I understood that the bets he made would have been legal down in England.

If that is the case then sevco, knowing he likes a punt, surely have a duty to advise their new player of the differences up here. I wonder if they did.

Yes and no.

Many of us will have been through the "induction", "on-boarding" or whatever term is used in an "organisation". In my experience a bland Whistle stop tour/ presentation your through the usual stuff and sound-bites with pointers to policy documents with the odd disclaimer here and there to sign, training or the horrible-termed "webinar"... And an intranet "it's all on the intranet" (but maybe the search/navigation leaves a lot to be desired...)

So there might have been a presentation or a policy document thrown in his direction. Whether it registered or was covered who knows. It's probably in the clubs best interest as they don't want folks sitting out games. Then again it would probably all go the same way as the "social media policy" - in one ear out the next ;)

[ian cruise]

My thinking is all Barton needs to do is claim he has an addiction and not only would the club struggle to sack him but they would be obligated to help provide support in his treatment. Anyone with an HR background want to confirm if this is right/wrong?

[CyberSauzee]

I understood that the bets he made would have been legal down in England.

If that is the case then sevco, knowing he likes a punt, surely have a duty to advise their new player of the differences up here. I wonder if they did.

Definitely not legal any more in England.

The FA adopted a strict no betting on any football anywhere in the world from the start of the 14-15 season.

Before that you could bet on competitions if your team was not involved that season.

For example, a Walsall player could punt on a Premiership match but not on an FA Cup match, even if his team had been knocked out.

[Jim44]

Why don't footballers just get a girlfriend, wife, son, daughter, or other trustworthy friend etc. To put the bet on?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

It is a conflict of interest though, isn't it? Players have a certain amount of control or power to manipulate little things which might affect betting outcomes, or collaborate and plan things with fellow professionals to do so. They also have real inside knowledge.

I have worked in betting shops for a few years now. We used to get a current top Scottish manager (in his playing days) in quite often to to pick up his coupons, of course he wouldn't be the one coming back in to put them on!!
Also where I worked, the local 'star' player was a regular after training and was one of my best customers. Would be dogs and horses but if football was on that night then so were the coupons.
Honestly can't see what the problem is if a guy playing in the Scottish leagues is punting on English league2 fixtures ect.
On a Saturday morning my shop can have guys from 4 or 5 different juniors sides in sticking on coupons for the whole team before they head off to their games, again what's the problem if a Maryhill juniors guy is betting on the Patrick Thistle match for example?

[CropleyWasGod]

I have worked in betting shops for a few years now. We used to get a current top Scottish manager (in his playing days) in quite often to to pick up his coupons, of course he wouldn't be the one coming back in to put them on!!
Also where I worked, the local 'star' player was a regular after training and was one of my best customers. Would be dogs and horses but if football was on that night then so were the coupons.
Honestly can't see what the problem is if a guy playing in the Scottish leagues is punting on English league2 fixtures ect.
On a Saturday morning my shop can have guys from 4 or 5 different juniors sides in sticking on coupons for the whole team before they head off to their games, again what's the problem if a Maryhill juniors guy is betting on the Patrick Thistle match for example?

A guy in the Scottish leagues is fairly likely to know guys playing in League 2.

Whether he has an influence on, or inside knowledge of, that game is irrelevant. It's the perception that he might....and, as with all situations of conflict of interest, it's not just what is done...but what is seen to be done.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

A guy in the Scottish leagues is fairly likely to know guys playing in League 2.

Whether he has an influence on, or inside knowledge of, that game is irrelevant. It's the perception that he might....and, as with all situations of conflict of interest, it's not just what is done...but what is seen to be done.

If players have inside info on players/teams in other leagues, he still doesn't have any influence so it is irrelevant. Only one he's hurting is the bookies if their profits are hit, and we have measures in place to minimise losses in these cases.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

I have worked in betting shops for a few years now. We used to get a current top Scottish manager (in his playing days) in quite often to to pick up his coupons, of course he wouldn't be the one coming back in to put them on!!
Also where I worked, the local 'star' player was a regular after training and was one of my best customers. Would be dogs and horses but if football was on that night then so were the coupons.
Honestly can't see what the problem is if a guy playing in the Scottish leagues is punting on English league2 fixtures ect.
On a Saturday morning my shop can have guys from 4 or 5 different juniors sides in sticking on coupons for the whole team before they head off to their games, again what's the problem if a Maryhill juniors guy is betting on the Patrick Thistle match for example?

I have certainly heard of junior teams passing on inside info and even colectively deciding to chuck a game wheb they all lumped on the opposition.

Why cant footballers just accept there are rules to their trade, and stick by them?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

I have certainly heard of junior teams passing on inside info and even colectively deciding to chuck a game wheb they all lumped on the opposition.

Why cant footballers just accept there are rules to their trade, and stick by them?
Aye but if they are betting on el classico? If my juniors players were wanting a punt on matches in their leagues I would refuse to take the bet.

[CropleyWasGod]

If players have inside info on players/teams in other leagues, he still doesn't have any influence so it is irrelevant. Only one he's hurting is the bookies if their profits are hit, and we have measures in place to minimise losses in these cases.

You're missing my point. It's not whether he HAS any influence or inside info, it's the perception (by the general public, the football authorities and other punters) that he might. Perception is central to questions of conflict of interest.

[Geo_1875]

If all these footballers have so much inside knowledge and are fixing games, why are they such **** punters that they end up bankrupt?

[Killiehibbie]

If all these footballers have so much inside knowledge and are fixing games, why are they such **** punters that they end up bankrupt?For the same reasons that jockeys make ***** horse tipsters, a little knowledge is not enough to beat multi million pound companies that know more than them. I remember reading that Ladbrokes most profitable shop was in Newmarket and was full of people employed in stables.

[jdships]

Why don't footballers just get a girlfriend, wife, son, daughter, or other trustworthy friend etc. To put the bet on?

Spot on !!
This has been happening for yonks !!
A number of players I know used to pay into a " pool" from which one of their mates placed the bets
One in particular had five " contributors " two of which were "players "

:rolleyes:

[oldbutdim]

http://d3pnhqsyxmeo7b.cloudfront.net/monthly_2016_10/image.jpeg.2e1e590388d576cc903fdc4fd188f61a.jpeg

[Geo_1875]

For the same reasons that jockeys make ***** horse tipsters, a little knowledge is not enough to beat multi million pound companies that know more than them. I remember reading that Ladbrokes most profitable shop was in Newmarket and was full of people employed in stables.

The reason for that is that any decent syndicate won't **** on their own doorstep.

[Killiehibbie]

The reason for that is that any decent syndicate won't **** on their own doorstep.And if you're any good you're not welcome.

[GreenLake]

A guy in the Scottish leagues is fairly likely to know guys playing in League 2.

Whether he has an influence on, or inside knowledge of, that game is irrelevant. It's the perception that he might....and, as with all situations of conflict of interest, it's not just what is done...but what is seen to be done.

Cart horses for courses. :greengrin

Regarding Joey Barton, it seems The Rangers board failed to carry out a due diligence on the background and character of an employee ---------------------- for the umpteenth time.

[Rugy07]

I think Steve Simonsen will be a bit upset that he's not been mentioned on here. He bet on more games than Barton and got the incredibly harsh punishment of a 1 game ban with another suspended. I can only remember about 5 players in Scotland getting done for this, and 3 are West of Scotland footballers. Maybe they should train more and pay their players less?

[GreenLake]

http://d3pnhqsyxmeo7b.cloudfront.net/monthly_2016_10/image.jpeg.2e1e590388d576cc903fdc4fd188f61a.jpeg

In BlackThorn and 32RED I can see 2toked so I imagine there is an interesting anagram yet to be discovered.

[jonty]

In BlackThorn and 32RED I can see 2toked so I imagine there is an interesting anagram yet to be discovered.

3-2 jumps out for some reason.

[ancient hibee]

All seems very strange to me.Who released the info about the number of bets? If he's not supposed to do it whydid a bookie take them?If it was Internet betting is this a breach of Data Protection Regulations?

[HoboHarry]

All seems very strange to me.Who released the info about the number of bets? If he's not supposed to do it whydid a bookie take them?If it was Internet betting is this a breach of Data Protection Regulations?
Exactly what I have been asking. Where and how did Scottish football authorities get information that precise?

[GreenLake]

Exactly what I have been asking. Where and how did Scottish football authorities get information that precise?

Facial recognition software could easily identify a man cross dressed and slapped up to look like tarty female gambler from bookshop security video.

[Allant1981]

All seems very strange to me.Who released the info about the number of bets? If he's not supposed to do it whydid a bookie take them?If it was Internet betting is this a breach of Data Protection Regulations?

It was his personal online account if i remember correctly

[ancient hibee]

It was his personal online account if i remember correctly


In that case the police should be looking for who hacked it.If not hacked it looks that Barton would have a case under the Data Acts.

[s.a.m]

All seems very strange to me.Who released the info about the number of bets? If he's not supposed to do it whydid a bookie take them?If it was Internet betting is this a breach of Data Protection Regulations?

I thought I read somewhere that the bookie reported his online gambling to the SFA? Could be wrong though.
No idea how their systems works, with identifying suspicious gambling, or why he had accumulated so many before it happened though.

[blackpoolhibs]

Maybe Bartons server is not busy anymore? :faf:

[Eyrie]

http://d3pnhqsyxmeo7b.cloudfront.net/monthly_2016_10/image.jpeg.2e1e590388d576cc903fdc4fd188f61a.jpeg

I see that Sevco are currently sponsored by 32 Red. Can anyone remember what sort of business they are in?

[matty_f]

Facial recognition software could easily identify a man cross dressed and slapped up to look like tarty female gambler from bookshop security video.

Are you talking from experience? :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

I see that Sevco are currently sponsored by 32 Red. Can anyone remember what sort of business they are in?
Looks like Barton is doing the bookies tic tac man's signs in that picture, you'd think sevco would have spotted the signs given their experiences with players who break the gambling rules.

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[greenginger]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37600185

They've extended the players ban by another week.

Think they want rid ?

[magpie1892]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37600185

They've extended the players ban by another week.

Think they want rid ?

They wanted rid long before Brown publicly humiliated him on Setpember 10. The problem for the hun is how they do so. Unfortunately, I maintain that it can't be done for less than a million quid in cash. His SFA betting charge is nowhere near enough grounds for cancellation of contract, and the boardroom bigots know it.

Next they need to figure out how they're going to get shot of Senderos and Krancjar, as the lights are close to going out again.

[southern hibby]

They wanted rid long before Brown publicly humiliated him on Setpember 10. The problem for the hun is how they do so. Unfortunately, I maintain that it can't be done for less than a million quid in cash. His SFA betting charge is nowhere near enough grounds for cancellation of contract, and the boardroom bigots know it.

Next they need to figure out how they're going to get shot of Senderos and Krancjar, as the lights are close to going out again.

Not into employment rules/law but could they in theory try and get rid of him by saying it's an accumulation of disciplinary misconducts ????

GGTTH

[jacomo]

They wanted rid long before Brown publicly humiliated him on Setpember 10. The problem for the hun is how they do so. Unfortunately, I maintain that it can't be done for less than a million quid in cash. His SFA betting charge is nowhere near enough grounds for cancellation of contract, and the boardroom bigots know it.

Next they need to figure out how they're going to get shot of Senderos and Krancjar, as the lights are close to going out again.

All good news then.

[magpie1892]

Not into employment rules/law but could they in theory try and get rid of him by saying it's an accumulation of disciplinary misconducts ????

GGTTH

They're certainly going to try, but football contracts - especially now they can often be for ridiculous sums of money - are absolutely airtight and the player's union has never been stronger.

I think sevco have neither the balls nor sufficient levels of infraction by Barton - he's made it public that he's available for immediate selection - to go for a unilateral contract cancellation. They've paid him £120,000+ to have a month's holiday and in that time they've undoubtedly been hunting high and low for a means of getting rid of him via a cancellation. In their private moments, the sevco muppets know full well that they've got no case.

I think we can be certain that he's played his last game for newco, but he's still got 19 months of his contract to run so the only way they can get rid of him is to haggle over the value of the remainder of his contract. You don't need to be a psychologist to know that Barton is going nowhere unless secvo pony up an acceptable amount of money in terms of a settlement. That figure's going to have six zeros after it - in my opinion.

Sevco simply don't have this amount of petty cash lying around while King prepares to sink his £30m 'over investment' into the club (:wink:), especially when they are also paying a combined £33,000/wk plus bonuses for Senderos and Krancjar, too.

My best guess for them telling Barton to stay away for another week is that sevco are still scrabbling around for a lawyer who will tell them that they've got enough to sack him. I don't see that they have.

It's brilliant.

[Bostonhibby]

All good news then.
[emoji106] Imagine paying sendhimoff money. Got to wonder who brought him in on big money. Hopeless, he does look to be down to warbler[emoji1]

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[blackpoolhibs]

They might get lucky and tell him he's free to find another club, and some lunatic from the English championship may want him on similar wages? :dunno:

[sleeping giant]

They might get lucky and tell him he's free to find another club, and some lunatic from the English championship may want him on similar wages? :dunno:

I'm hoping he says put.

[Bostonhibby]

I'm hoping he says put.
Yep, he could make all the difference to their season, especially if he's still there after warbler is sacked/walks away.

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[Billy Whizz]

Yep, he could make all the difference to their season, especially if he's still there after warbler is sacked/walks away.

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Think one of the issues is he thinks WAF is not up to the job. Who would you rather stayed

[Radium]

I would imagine that they want to ensure that there is a non disclosure agreement in place, which presumably will only happen if they pay him off. If they don't Talksports ratings will go up ...


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[Bostonhibby]

Think one of the issues is he thinks WAF is not up to the job. Who would you rather stayed
Perm any one from about 5 really, all dead weights, all drawing huge salaries relative to what they contribute. Loving it. Dodgy Dave's over investment is making all the difference.

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[CyberSauzee]

One thing Barton being in Scotland does highlight is the massive hyperbole Sky and the English media have for their own leagues.

Barton was one of the 'best' players in the Championship according to their own spiel. He turned down £35k per week with Burnley for a new challenge, but he's been found wanting.

He's the English media's darling bad boy, but at the moment they can't reconcile how a 'great' player last season can't hack it in the mickey mouse spl.

And I hope he milks Sevco for everything he can.

[sleeping giant]

Yep, he could make all the difference to their season, especially if he's still there after warbler is sacked/walks away.

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Now that would be in the w*** bank .

[ancient hibee]

Don't suppose he can play left back:greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Don't suppose he can play left back:greengrin
A natural at left behind, started against Brown in the the rangers 5-1 thrashing and he's made the left behind role his own ever since.

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[ancient hibee]

Left back when the team's travelling (a very very old joke)

[magpie1892]

He's the English media's darling bad boy, but at the moment they can't reconcile how a 'great' player last season can't hack it in the mickey mouse spl.

And I hope he milks Sevco for everything he can.

That's not entirely true. He was Burnley's player of the season last year - Burnley - and there was precious little eulogising of Barton going on outside of Lancashire.

His legs were going at QPR and he couldn't keep up with the EPL pace at all. Last season (and another year older) he had a bit more time to put his foot on the ball but we all know that what the Scottish game lacks in quality it makes up for in speed, so a year older, and with his Messsiah complex and attitude, not only was he unable to keep up with the pace of the Scottish game, but he couldn't understand why he wasn't the best player in it.

Any media down south that are having the same difficulty with the latter part are simply those that don't know much about the SPL and would struggle to name five players from any team other than Celtc or the the rangers.

As to your last sentence though: he will.

[Dashing Bob S]

That's not entirely true. He was Burnley's player of the season last year - Burnley - and there was precious little eulogising of Barton going on outside of Lancashire.

His legs were going at QPR and he couldn't keep up with the EPL pace at all. Last season (and another year older) he had a bit more time to put his foot on the ball but we all know that what the Scottish game lacks in quality it makes up for in speed, so a year older, and with his Messsiah complex and attitude, not only was he unable to keep up with the pace of the Scottish game, but he couldn't understand why he wasn't the best player in it.

Any media down south that are having the same difficulty with the latter part are simply those that don't know much about the SPL and would struggle to name five players from any team other than Celtc or the the rangers.

As to your last sentence though: he will.

He's just the latest in the long list of chancers who smell gold amidst the self-deluding hubris and pomposity of the Hun. See also; Green, Whyte, The Lying King etc etc. I doubt he'll be the last to jump on this gravy train before it hits the buffers again.

[JDHibs]

Its been a comedy road show since he signed.

They need an extra week to find a loophole, which makes it even better as they may be stuck with him! They will be panicking as they've brought in all these guys on big money, Garner, Barton, No Serenderos, Kranjcar and Hill, who are all on £15k plus, add to that the improved contracts Wallace, Tavernier and Waghorn are on, on the proviso that they get European football, with Hearts and Aberdeen doing as well as they are, its looking unlikely that will happen.

Once again, The Rangers will sink. Bad management again the cause.

IM DELIGHTED.

We r da peeeeeepoooollll

[jacomo]

He's just the latest in the long list of chancers who smell gold amidst the self-deluding hubris and pomposity of the Hun. See also; Green, Whyte, The Lying King etc etc. I doubt he'll be the last to jump on this gravy train before it hits the buffers again.


They need some true Rangers men who put the needs of the club first.

People like McCoist. :faf:

[Bostonhibby]

They need some true Rangers men who put the needs of the club first.

People like McCoist. :faf:
Or watty and greigy who ran away from the old board as soon as the brown stuff hit the fan.

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[magpie1892]

He's just the latest in the long list of chancers who smell gold amidst the self-deluding hubris and pomposity of the Hun. See also; Green, Whyte, The Lying King etc etc. I doubt he'll be the last to jump on this gravy train before it hits the buffers again.

He could probably have got more £ had he stayed put but he must have known he'd have had no impact at all in the EPL this season, so his ego brought him up here where he thought he'd be like Gascoigne/Larsson. Maybe he thought the win bonuses would be greater in number?!

I had to endure four years of this utter fanny at NUFC and it was so frustrating watching him getting injured or his being in jail because on his day he was a very good player - I reckon we got about 20 performances out of him in those four years. But he's finished now, legs are away, and this is another reason why he won't be heading south again without a hefty pay-off.

[steakbake]

At the very least, they're looking at shelling out a cool half mill if they can move him on in January. Otherwise, he's in with the bricks till his contract ends.

In other news, apparently invoices are piling up at Ibrox once again.

[magpie1892]

At the very least, they're looking at shelling out a cool half mill if they can move him on in January. Otherwise, he's in with the bricks till his contract ends.

In other news, apparently invoices are piling up at Ibrox once again.

I don't think they'll get off so lightly.

The invoices are piling up at Ibrox. The usual online sources are reporting this but I've spoken to a couple of non-partisan parties who've pretty much confirmed this as the truth. King will not spend another bean at sevco - he's there to try and recoup (good luck!) his £20m losses from last time, not spend this mythical £30m that he doesn't even have.

Liquidation of TRIFC is not out of the question by a long way. I wonder if they'll 'buy' the titles again, to 'transfer' to a third company?!

Set to run and run, this one.

[Biggie]

I don't think they'll get off so lightly.

The invoices are piling up at Ibrox. The usual online sources are reporting this but I've spoken to a couple of non-partisan parties who've pretty much confirmed this as the truth. King will not spend another bean at sevco - he's there to try and recoup (good luck!) his £20m losses from last time, not spend this mythical £30m that he doesn't even have.

Liquidation of TRIFC is not out of the question by a long way. I wonder if they'll 'buy' the titles again, to 'transfer' to a third company?!

Set to run and run, this one.

The the rangers ? :hyper

[magpie1892]

The the rangers ? :hyper

Instead of playing 'One Step Beyond' when they score, the the rangers could play 'Infected'.

[CyberSauzee]

Instead of playing 'One Step Beyond' when they score, the the rangers could play 'Infected'.

Armageddon days are here again

[Deansy]

Armageddon days are here again

Spare a thought for Regan, Doncaster & Co ................................ on second thoughts - ****** EM !!

If they'd done their job PROPERLY in the first place, the Hun would now be a distant, nasty memory rather the current nasty, shower-of-**** that continues to soil our game, society and country !

[PatHead]

The the rangers ? :hyper

Third Rangers?

[Bostonhibby]

Third Rangers?

:greengrin

The team formerly known as the team formerly known as Glasgow rangers?

New Sevco?

[jacomo]

:greengrin

The team formerly known as the team formerly known as Glasgow rangers?

New Sevco?


New Newco.

Sevco 2 - this time it's personal.

West of Scotland / Scottish Cup FC.

So many choices!

[CyberSauzee]

:greengrin

The team formerly known as the team formerly known as Glasgow rangers?

New Sevco?

Whatever guise they're in they're definitely the beaten generation.

[The Captain....]

I don't think they'll get off so lightly.

The invoices are piling up at Ibrox. The usual online sources are reporting this but I've spoken to a couple of non-partisan parties who've pretty much confirmed this as the truth. King will not spend another bean at sevco - he's there to try and recoup (good luck!) his £20m losses from last time, not spend this mythical £30m that he doesn't even have.

Liquidation of TRIFC is not out of the question by a long way. I wonder if they'll 'buy' the titles again, to 'transfer' to a third company?!

Set to run and run, this one.

Few of the usual internet suspects dropping broad hints re unpaid VAT at Ibrox. Along with the unpaid invoice rumours that have been circulating the past couple of months it surely can't be long now before the money runs out again.


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[magpie1892]

Whatever guise they're in they're definitely the beaten generation.

Ouch. I like it.

[magpie1892]

Few of the usual internet suspects dropping broad hints re unpaid VAT at Ibrox. Along with the unpaid invoice rumours that have been circulating the past couple of months it surely can't be long now before the money runs out again.



Yeah, apparently they've not paid the VAT on the ST sales but I'm not convinced by that one. I am convinced by the unpaid bills from a number of creditors, even their embarrassing PR outfit co-owned by Monsieur Creosote.

Then there's the wage bill. Barton, Senderos, Krancjar, Hill - £90k+ a week and bonuses (and NI to Hector)

Then there's the sky about to fall in on three of their stands.

Then there's no line from any bank. The club's Experian score isn't a number, it simply says: 'As if!'

Then there's no revenue from merchandising, as Ashley has RRL sewn up like a kipper. The hunco twats think they've got rid of him. Hilarious.

Then there's the Lying King. If he has either the cash or the inclination to 'invest' £30m in Rangers then I'm a Cossack.

Popcorn. We need more popcorn.

[HoboHarry]

Yeah, apparently they've not paid the VAT on the ST sales but I'm not convinced by that one. I am convinced by the unpaid bills from a number of creditors, even their embarrassing PR outfit co-owned by Monsieur Creosote.

Then there's the wage bill. Barton, Senderos, Krancjar, Hill - £90k+ a week and bonuses (and NI to Hector)

Then there's the sky about to fall in on three of their stands.

Then there's no line from any bank. The club's Experian score isn't a number, it simply says: 'As if!'

Then there's no revenue from merchandising, as Ashley has RRL sewn up like a kipper. The hunco twats think they've got rid of him. Hilarious.

Then there's the Lying King. If he has either the cash or the inclination to 'invest' £30m in Rangers then I'm a Cossack.

Popcorn. We need more popcorn.

Not sure about popcorn but if they go breasts skywards again I will be needing incontinence knickers.......

[greenlex]

Todays press confrence is quite entertaining. Traynors a welt but we knew that. :greengrin

[silverhibee]

Jim Traynor having a go at the media for asking questions about JB at the managers press conference today. :faf::faf:

[WhileTheChief..]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10614709/rangers-refuse-barton-questions

It just gets better and better :greengrin:greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Jim Traynor having a go at the media for asking questions about JB at the managers press conference today. :faf::faf:
They probably want a conference without questions, one where they can issue statements.

It's not fair people asking questions at press conferences. Especially when they don't have any answers.

Kafflik conspiracy.

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[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Jim Traynor is an utterly detestable creature. The type of character that epitomises every single thing that is wrong with our game.

[Malthibby]

Traynor's a complete embarrassment & therefore the perfect stooge for the rangers.
Any pretensions he ever had of being a journalist died years ago & he's left picking up the Sevco shilling.
A pompous prat with zero credibility.
Magic Hat at least had the grace to look discomforted at dancing to Traynor's tune, he really must now know what he's
got himself into.
Carry On Sevco keeps delivering.

[WhileTheChief..]

Traynor all about Respect too eh. Now we know where Warburton gets it from!

[southern hibby]

I'm going for Rangers the third or Rangers the turd....


GGTTH

[Oscar T Grouch]

They really are the gift that keeps on giving. I am glad the reporter didn't let jabba away with spraffing rubbish. Jabba is one of the most detestable people you are ever likely to meet (if you're unlucky enough to meet him), the man is a welt of the highest order and an egoist to the extreme, he kinda suits the the rangers to a tee.

[Jonnyboy]

They really are the gift that keeps on giving. I am glad the reporter didn't let jabba away with spraffing rubbish. Jabba is one of the most detestable people you are ever likely to meet (if you're unlucky enough to meet him), the man is a welt of the highest order and an egoist to the extreme, he kinda suits the the rangers to a tee.

I've met him and can confirm you are 100% right in your description:greengrin

[lapsedhibee]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10614709/rangers-refuse-barton-questions

It just gets better and better :greengrin:greengrin

Thought Traynor wasn't far off having a Jim McLean moment there. Which would have been nice.

[magpie1892]

I've met him and can confirm you are 100% right in your description:greengrin

Me too, oddly enough (!). He's a ****.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I've met him and can confirm you are 100% right in your description:greengrin

Yes unfortunately I've been in his company too. He has no redeeming features to his personality at all.

[jonty]

:greengrin

The team formerly known as the team formerly known as Glasgow rangers?

New Sevco?

The Sevco, obviously :greengrin

[Wee Effen Bee]

Traynor all about Respect too eh. Now we know where Warburton gets it from!

It's a disgrace WTC is it not? He showed nothing but utter contempt for the journalists there: 'How very dare you do your job and ask pertinent questions?'
R.E.S.P.E.C.T. - a virtue outwith their comprehension.

[Kojock]

I've met him and can confirm you are 100% right in your description:greengrin

I've never met him and can confirm you are 100% right in your description.

[WhileTheChief..]

R.E.S.P.E.C.T. - a virtue outwith their comprehension.

Also another cracking song that's been ruined for me. Used to really like Simply The Best as well but can't listen to that for obvious reasons.

If they start saying "You Can't Always Get What You Want" I'll be spewing.

[Mr White]

If they start saying "You Can't Always Get What You Want" I'll be spewing.

They've been saying that to their creditors for a few years now.

[Kavinho]

The Sevco, obviously :greengrin

3rd Rangers works for me

[Wee Effen Bee]

Also another cracking song that's been ruined for me. Used to really like Simply The Best as well but can't listen to that for obvious reasons.

If they start saying "You Can't Always Get What You Want" I'll be spewing.


:grr:Aye, I've no sympathy for the Devil Traynor, he's so Tangled up in Blue!
Sorry, not meaning to start a pun fest!:greengrin

[Hibernia&Alba]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10614709/rangers-refuse-barton-questions

It just gets better and better :greengrin:greengrin

Traynor is almost as protective of The Rangers now as he was as a 'journalist'. His attitude reflects that of a great deal of the Scottish media.

[Carheenlea]

The media did get told there would be no comment on the Joey Barton situation, but the guy continued to ask about him. For once, Traynor was right.

[Kojock]

The media did get told there would be no comment on the Joey Barton situation, but the guy continued to ask about him. For once, Traynor was right.

Warburton was dealing with the reporter and didn't need Traynor to fight his battles. Warburton actually looked embarrassed at Jabbas intervention.

[blackpoolhibs]

Warburtons a puppet

He's traynors puppet man

He'll answer any questions

Just no about Joe Barton.

Ask any other question

That traynor will accept

And show THE Glasgow Rangers

A little bit respect.

[Dashing Bob S]

Warburtons a puppet

He's traynors puppet man

He'll answer any questions

Just no about Joe Barton.

Ask any other question

That traynor will accept

And show THE Glasgow Rangers

A little bit respect.


That one could be a tough sell in the East.

[Kato]

They probably want a conference without questions, one where they can issue statements.

It's not fair people asking questions at press conferences. Especially when they don't have any answers.


Agree, it shows a complete lack of respect.

[blackpoolhibs]

That one could be a tough sell in the East.

Might try it first in the Famous 5.:wink:

[Keith_M]

Jabba is a total d1ck, but...


The guy asked the same question four times in a row, despite being told by Warbo that he wasn't going to discuss it. I think I would have been a bit annoyed if I was 'Mr Respectfully'.

[Bishop Hibee]

Traynor seems a nasty little man. Arrogant on Radio Scotland, now at home at a nasty club.

[WhileTheChief..]

It gives a good insight into the workings of that club.

I certainly didn't have that picture in my head of a goon standing guard over proceedings telling journos what to do. Traynor looked a complete fool.

Brilliant that it was on Sky and not just STV.

[fishybeaver]

Lol....who thinks Warburton let lose on that fat prick for making him look completely stupid and getting dragged away like a naughty school boy.
That was brilliant!!

[Bostonhibby]

Lol....who thinks Warburton let lose on that fat prick for making him look completely stupid and getting dragged away like a naughty school boy.
That was brilliant!!
It looks bizarre, conference about the football team with the manager there. Made to look like assistant tea boy with a minder to make sure he knows what to do and say. Warbler seemed brighter than that so maybe he is just along for the cash until someone in England wants him?

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[ACLeith]

3rd Rangers works for me

"The club that finally died" does it for me. In one generation's time youngsters could then say "The who?" and not be talking about music.

[CyberSauzee]

Certainly looked like an uncertain smile on the bread man's face when he came back into the room.

[Sir David Gray]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10614709/rangers-refuse-barton-questions

It just gets better and better :greengrin:greengrin

Can't help but have this song stuck in my head after watching that press conference. :greengrin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34icYC8zA0

[O'Rourke3]

Link I was on was Sky so they refuse to talk to the BBC and are pissing off Sky now. They must surely know that Barton is at least someone they'd want to talk about or to. Soon there'll only be the Record and Follow Follow. Save them the bother of press conference though as they'll print anything.

[jacomo]

It gives a good insight into the workings of that club.

I certainly didn't have that picture in my head of a goon standing guard over proceedings telling journos what to do. Traynor looked a complete fool.

Brilliant that it was on Sky and not just STV.

Oh that's embarrassing.

Plenty of people will be having a good chuckle at Sevco today.

[sambajustice]

Oh that's embarrassing.

Plenty of people will be having a good chuckle at Sevco today.

Warburton looked embarrassed when that fat joker got involved!!

[steakbake]

He looked under pressure - pinching his eyes, deep red face. Looked like he wanted to be anywhere else but there.

[Jonnyboy]

I've never met him and can confirm you are 100% right in your description.

:tee hee:

[silverhibee]

How do I get the feeling that Jabba & Magic hat man are now not best buddies after Jabba made the fanny look a right fanny in front of the press today.

All good though.

Respect.

[Captain Trips]

The Rangers, Warburton, Traynor and Barton, thank you for this weeks installment of "Embarrassing since 2012"

[The Green Goblin]

That made me think of this:

https://youtu.be/So0HMAi_nsM

[silverhibee]

The Rangers, Warburton, Traynor and Barton, thank you for this weeks installment of "Embarrassing since 2012"

ICT pumping them up North would be the perfect end to the week for them, and us. :thumbsup:

[HoboHarry]

If Rangers are paying top money for that balloon to be representing them then frankly they deserve everything they get. Good grief that was a hoot - Traynor is useless.... lol, lol and lol again........

[Oscar T Grouch]

Link I was on was Sky so they refuse to talk to the BBC and are pissing off Sky now. They must surely know that Barton is at least someone they'd want to talk about or to. Soon there'll only be the Record and Follow Follow. Save them the bother of press conference though as they'll print anything.

Bizzarly enough the the rangers supporters feel that the record is actually a celtc loving cafflik rag that no one should go near or buy. Follow follow just putting out Jabba's statements would suit them to a T!

[rotherhamrob]

To be fair I actually thought Warburton was handling the questions pretty well and you could see by the way he raised his arms that has wasn't impressed with traynor.

[Moulin Yarns]

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10614709/rangers-refuse-barton-questions

It just gets better and better :greengrin:greengrin

I love it that the film trailer before it when I watched is for 'Trolls' :greengrin

[lucky]

The fanny looked like a fanny as he sat there taking his orders from from Traynor. It's amazing that JT still has a job after his cup final crap but surely Barton's got a brighter future at Ibrox than JT. Once the PR man becomes the story it's time for them to go.

[jacomo]

Bizzarly enough the the rangers supporters feel that the record is actually a celtc loving cafflik rag that no one should go near or buy. Follow follow just putting out Jabba's statements would suit them to a T!

Shows that pandering to these a holes gets you nowhere.

The DR has lost all credibility as a newspaper, and not even managed to buy the loyalty of the nasty little West of Scotland FC fan base in return.

[Smartie]

To be fair I actually thought Warburton was handling the questions pretty well and you could see by the way he raised his arms that has wasn't impressed with traynor.

I agree. He had the situation totally under control and the interviewer was making himself look like a twat until Jabba came in and totally undermined Warburton.

[easty]

I agree. He had the situation totally under control and the interviewer was making himself look like a twat until Jabba came in and totally undermined Warburton.

I don't think the reporter looked a twat at all.

He asked if Warburton had spoken with Barton, then he asked if Barton had intimated he wanted to stay, then he asked about the time line, then he asked if it was distracting. He didn't just ask the same question over and over again. Just because someone says they aren't going to make a comment, doesn't mean the press should just stop with the questions.

[Hibs Class]

If that is Traynor's reaction to what were some pretty benign questions about Barton, I'd love to see how he'd react if asked about this:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/james-traynor-spl-will-not-be-able-1129166

[Geo_1875]

If that is Traynor's reaction to what were some pretty benign questions about Barton, I'd love to see how he'd react if asked about this:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/james-traynor-spl-will-not-be-able-1129166

I couldn't help myself. Had to have a look and this is priceless "They’re cheats and liars. Everybody knows that. They can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA." Obviously being sarcastic but a joy to see it in print.

[Keith_M]

If that is Traynor's reaction to what were some pretty benign questions about Barton, I'd love to see how he'd react if asked about this:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/james-traynor-spl-will-not-be-able-1129166



"But Rangers FC won’t. They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended.

No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died."

- James Traynor, 2012

[The Captain....]

Traynor is an absolute car crash as a so called PR operator...everything he touches or is involved in blows up in his face causing der hun more humiliation...to be fair I'd agree with the previous comments that Warburton was handling the questions (with uncustomary) good humour before Traynor waddled in and made a complete tool of himself. He didn't even have the wit, composure or vocabulary to debate it with the reporter and instead shouted over him aggressively before mincing out the door in the huff demanding Warburton discontinue the presser. Must've been comedy gold for the hacks...I would imagine Traynor is as popular with his former colleagues as he is with the rest of the population.

[Billy Whizz]

Traynor is an absolute car crash as a so called PR operator...everything he touches or is involved in blows up in his face causing der hun more humiliation...to be fair I'd agree with the previous comments that Warburton was handling the questions (with uncustomary) good humour before Traynor waddled in and made a complete tool of himself. He didn't even have the wit, composure or vocabulary to debate it with the reporter and instead shouted over him aggressively before mincing out the door in the huff demanding Warburton discontinue the presser. Must've been comedy gold for the hacks...I would imagine Traynor is as popular with his former colleagues as he is with the rest of the population.

Most PR men sit at the same table as the manager, why want Tranyor not on the platform

[CyberSauzee]

Traynor relishes his role in the black art of spin. King of the angels of deception. He's just crap at it.

[Jim44]

If that is Traynor's reaction to what were some pretty benign questions about Barton, I'd love to see how he'd react if asked about this:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/james-traynor-spl-will-not-be-able-1129166

The thing is tho' that Traynor won't ever be in the front line answering or deflecting awkward or incriminating questions like that.

[Captain Trips]

I cannot wait for the next installment of "What Jim did next".

[Northernhibee]

Jim Traynor demands respect. Leeann Dempster commands it. The big difference we seen post cup final.

[MrSmith]

good article in the Guardian :)


https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/oct/14/brief-encounter-illustrates-difference-between-journalists-and-prs

[Oscar T Grouch]

good article in the Guardian :)


https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/oct/14/brief-encounter-illustrates-difference-between-journalists-and-prs

Brilliant, some great comments at the bottom too, though many have been deleted by The Guardian, probably from the the rangers supporters.

[magpie1892]

Barton suspended 'indefinitely'.

Do the hun think this somehow strengthens their case for cancelling his contract?!

[Spike Mandela]

Barton suspended 'indefinitely'.

Do the hun think this somehow strengthens their case for cancelling his contract?!

I bet he's not getting paid ' indefinitely' as well.:cb

[magpie1892]

I bet he's not getting paid ' indefinitely' as well.:cb

He's on full pay.

Further, as a first-team squad member who is available for selection, he should be getting win bonuses as well.

[northstandhibby]

Barton suspended 'indefinitely'.

Do the hun think this somehow strengthens their case for cancelling his contract?!

I think it's called 'gardening leave'. Maybe they're hoping to sicken him and he will look elsewhere for other employment. It would appear to me they don't have sufficient grounds yet or he would have been sacked with immediate effect.

GGTTH

[Eyrie]

Could Barton claim constructive dismissal if Sevco keep extending his suspension without giving him a proper hearing?

[magpie1892]

Could Barton claim constructive dismissal if Sevco keep extending his suspension without giving him a proper hearing?

As long as he keeps getting paid for doing nothing, he's clearly going to dig in.

He could walk and claim constructive dismissal, a case he'd most likely win, but why take the chance when you're getting money for nothing? He almost certainly picked up a bouns for the huns' win last night, also.

[Spike Mandela]

He's on full pay.

Further, as a first-team squad member who is available for selection, he should be getting win bonuses as well.
He may be entitled to it....doesn't mean he is actually getting it.

[Keith_M]

He may be entitled to it....doesn't mean he is actually getting it.


Which would mean even better grounds to sue T'Rangers for breaking his (presumably watertight) contract, and probably winning the right to the remainder of the money due under it.


Which would be nice

:wink:



p.s. Does anybody remember how long his contract is for? Three years?

[Jack Hackett]

He may be entitled to it....doesn't mean he is actually getting it.

If he wasn't being paid Spike, I feel sure he'd be making a noise about it. Going by his silence over the last few weeks, it's more than likely a condition of continuing payment.

[Northernhibee]

Which would mean even better grounds to sue T'Rangers for breaking his (presumably watertight) contract, and probably winning the right to the remainder of the money due under it.


Which would be nice

:wink:



p.s. Does anybody remember how long his contract is for? Three years?

Two year contract, so not cheap. Being reported he won't play for the club again. This is brilliant!

[Keith_M]

Two year contract, so not cheap. Being reported he won't play for the club again. This is brilliant!


Cheers.


Starting to sound better every day :greengrin

[Jack Hackett]

Cheers.


Starting to sound better every day :greengrin

The Rangers Football Club.....Stabbing themselves in the back for four years :lolrangers:

....Gets me wondering exactly how much money they've s***ked in that time

[NAE NOOKIE]

Leaving aside the obvious comedy content at the Huns expense this provides the whole thing doesn't exactly improve my already low opinion of Barton.

He obviously thought he was going to walk into Scottish football and be some sort of 'top boy' who was gonna rip up the Mickey Mouse Jock league ..... as far as I can see he is a limited human being and an even more limited footballer who is 10 times better in his head than he actually is on the pitch. He obviously thinks his opinions are intellectual gold because he was on Question time once, but what footballer with any intelligence, especially one who is as mystifyingly high profile as him, would go betting on matches when he must know its frowned upon by the beaks.

It says everything about the folk in charge at Ibrox that they didn't sit down and think what they were getting before giving this clown a contract ..... he obviously has no regard for Scottish football, no regard for the Huns and by his actions since being suspended not much interest in playing football just so long as he's still getting paid.

Sevco and Barton ..... a match made in heaven :greengrin

[Spike Mandela]

If he wasn't being paid Spike, I feel sure he'd be making a noise about it. Going by his silence over the last few weeks, it's more than likely a condition of continuing payment.

I am talking about not being paid going forward. They get paid monthly so purely a delaying tactic till they can trump up some gross misconduct charge. I am sure Sevco won't care about any legal challenge from Barton , he'll just become another creditor.

We've seen all these tactics before from Oldco Rangers and the Charity thieves.

[Eyrie]

As long as he keeps getting paid for doing nothing, he's clearly going to dig in.

He could walk and claim constructive dismissal, a case he'd most likely win, but why take the chance when you're getting money for nothing? He almost certainly picked up a bouns for the huns' win last night, also.

So as long as he doesn't do something stupid like interrupting Warburton's press conference then they're stuck with him and his contract. They can pay him to stay away or pay him to go away but either way he's bleeding them white.

Good news, thanks :thumbsup:

[magpie1892]

I am sure Sevco won't care about any legal challenge from Barton.

They do care, and then some. They are absolutely terrified of a legal challenge from Barton if they cancel his contract because if they lose it, they'll have to pay up his contract in full, plus costs, plus legal costs, plus the catastrophic PR message this sends out to players about what Sevco think of legally-binding players' contracts.

The only way Barton would become 'just another creditor' is if 5088 entered liquidation. They'd have no option but to pay him up - with money they don't have, so it's kind of a nice paradox.

They're obviously still trying to build a case for cancelling his contract. I don't think SFA censure for betting will be enough, but that's what the hun are hanging their hat on, or they would have launched him already.

[Jack Hackett]

They do care, and then some. They are absolutely terrified of a legal challenge from Barton if they cancel his contract because if they lose it, they'll have to pay up his contract in full, plus costs, plus legal costs, plus the catastrophic PR message this sends out to players about what Sevco think of legally-binding players' contracts.

The only way Barton would become 'just another creditor' is if 5088 entered liquidation. They'd have no option but to pay him up - with money they don't have, so it's kind of a nice paradox.

They're obviously still trying to build a case for cancelling his contract. I don't think SFA censure for betting will be enough, but that's what the hun are hanging their hat on, or they would have launched him already.

Par for the course with Jabba writing the scripts :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Cant take the credit for this, stolen from facebook. :greengrin

Oooooh Barton is a fanny and so's his gaffer Mark. They thought he'd come to Scotland and play teams off the park. But now he's banned from Ibrox and he's sent another Tweet. He's Scotland's richest gardener on 20 Grand a week

[Bostonhibby]

Cant take the credit for this, stolen from facebook. :greengrin

Oooooh Barton is a fanny and so's his gaffer Mark. They thought he'd come to Scotland and play teams off the park. But now he's banned from Ibrox and he's sent another Tweet. He's Scotland's richest gardener on 20 Grand a week
Someone deserves credit for a very decent effort[emoji106]

Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using Tapatalk

[Jonnyboy]

Cant take the credit for this, stolen from facebook. :greengrin

Oooooh Barton is a fanny and so's his gaffer Mark. They thought he'd come to Scotland and play teams off the park. But now he's banned from Ibrox and he's sent another Tweet. He's Scotland's richest gardener on 20 Grand a week

:greengrin Like it

[silverhibee]

They do care, and then some. They are absolutely terrified of a legal challenge from Barton if they cancel his contract because if they lose it, they'll have to pay up his contract in full, plus costs, plus legal costs, plus the catastrophic PR message this sends out to players about what Sevco think of legally-binding players' contracts.

The only way Barton would become 'just another creditor' is if 5088 entered liquidation. They'd have no option but to pay him up - with money they don't have, so it's kind of a nice paradox.

They're obviously still trying to build a case for cancelling his contract. I don't think SFA censure for betting will be enough, but that's what the hun are hanging their hat on, or they would have launched him already.

Would the challenge come from Barton? Is it not the case that if a player is not paid by the club for over 3 months then the case is taken up by Fifa and the player is allowed to leave the club and find another one and Fifa can threaten with sanctions if the contract is not paid, sure this was the case with Kenny Miller Kris Boyd & Mikey Stewart when they signed for clubs in Turkey.

[magpie1892]

Would the challenge come from Barton? Is it not the case that if a player is not paid by the club for over 3 months then the case is taken up by Fifa and the player is allowed to leave the club and find another one and Fifa can threaten with sanctions if the contract is not paid, sure this was the case with Kenny Miller Kris Boyd & Mikey Stewart when they signed for clubs in Turkey.

The challenge could come from a number of sources, but they are paying him in full. The hun (surely to God) are not so foolish as to just stop his pay.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Can't see it mentioned on here, but Barton has updated his twitter profile and removed any mention of Rangers. He has added #Kaisen which is Japanese for good change.

[Jack]

I am talking about not being paid going forward. They get paid monthly so purely a delaying tactic till they can trump up some gross misconduct charge. I am sure Sevco won't care about any legal challenge from Barton , he'll just become another creditor.

We've seen all these tactics before from Oldco Rangers and the Charity thieves.

IF Sevco do go down the tubes then I think they current idiots in charge will have a plan for the future. Barton won't be just a creditor but a football creditor and the debt would have to be paid by the new regime.