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Jim44
14-08-2016, 11:35 PM
5-3, looks like it's going to a fifth
I reckon Del Potro will win if it goes to five sets.
Baw187
14-08-2016, 11:36 PM
I reckon Del Potro will win if it goes to five sets.
There's every chance.
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Mikey09
14-08-2016, 11:37 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Murray breaks here and wins the set....
JohnM1875
14-08-2016, 11:38 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Murray breaks here and wins the set....
This. Be standard Murray
Onceinawhile
14-08-2016, 11:39 PM
Jmdp back to being knackered! His serve has deserted him.
eezyrider
14-08-2016, 11:40 PM
I reckon Del Potro will win if it goes to five sets.
I don't think he will last the full 5.
EZ
Jim44
14-08-2016, 11:42 PM
I don't think he will last the full 5.
EZ
It's looked like that the whole match but he's managing to dig deeper than Murray.
Onceinawhile
14-08-2016, 11:46 PM
Yes!
Breaks back.
Danderhall Hibs
14-08-2016, 11:46 PM
Back to 5-5
eezyrider
14-08-2016, 11:47 PM
It's looked like that the whole match but he's managing to dig deeper than Murray.
His tank will run dry soon.
EZ
cabbageandribs1875
14-08-2016, 11:47 PM
murrays brother shouting 'ffs andy don't yambottle it'
The Del Potro love in with the 2 commentators is getting sickening, you'd think Murray was up against the world number 1 here.
Danderhall Hibs
14-08-2016, 11:49 PM
Del Potro's forehand is absolutely superb.
eezyrider
14-08-2016, 11:49 PM
The Del Potro love in with the 2 commentators is getting sickening, you'd think Murray was up against the world number 1 here.
To be fair, Del Potro has been playing like the World No 1 for a lot of the game.
EZ
snooky
14-08-2016, 11:49 PM
His tank will run dry soon.
EZ
Has he not taken his pills? :wink:
BroxburnHibee
14-08-2016, 11:50 PM
Murrays first serve is the reason this match is still going
Jonnyboy
14-08-2016, 11:50 PM
Murray to win 3-2? It's a Hibs thing :greengrin
Onceinawhile
14-08-2016, 11:51 PM
Murray to win 3-2? It's a Hibs thing :greengrin
I'll be delighted if he does, but I'll pay for it tomorrow!
Itsnoteasy
14-08-2016, 11:53 PM
And there is some on .net say that our poor wee soles have to play 40/50 90min games in a season.
Onceinawhile
14-08-2016, 11:54 PM
Huuuuge hold. Guaranteed at least a tie break for this set.
Off the bar
14-08-2016, 11:55 PM
Massive hold! He's got balls the size of church bells Murray
snooky
14-08-2016, 11:56 PM
Isn't it odd hopin' the ba' disny hit the net? :confused:
stoneyburn hibs
14-08-2016, 11:56 PM
Finger out Andy please, I'm knackered.
Mikey09
14-08-2016, 11:58 PM
Murray to take this game and win. Mon Andy lad!!!!
Finger out Andy please, I'm knackered.
Snap, sitting on the edge of the couch trying to keep the eyes open.
Off the bar
14-08-2016, 11:59 PM
Snap, sitting on the edge of the couch trying to keep the eyes open.
I think I'll struggle to sleep after all this excitement
Onceinawhile
14-08-2016, 11:59 PM
Ffs. He should've had that.
cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 12:03 AM
murrays brother shouting 'ffs andy don't yambottle it'
Itsnoteasy
15-08-2016, 12:04 AM
Yaaaaaaassss
Finn2015
15-08-2016, 12:05 AM
Yassssss! Great fight by del p but Murray wore him down. Great match
cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 12:05 AM
please, no tears
Onceinawhile
15-08-2016, 12:05 AM
Yes!
Well done Andy!
Fantastic game too.
Off the bar
15-08-2016, 12:05 AM
Yess done it! Well done Andy
Itsnoteasy
15-08-2016, 12:06 AM
Now for the BOLT
HUTCHYHIBBY
15-08-2016, 12:06 AM
What a fantastic match! Well done Andy.
Twiglet
15-08-2016, 12:07 AM
Yaasss!!!! C'mon Andy! Brilliant. Well done. :thumbsup:
stoneyburn hibs
15-08-2016, 12:07 AM
First to defend an Olympic tennis title.
eezyrider
15-08-2016, 12:08 AM
Great match and a great victory.
Well done Andy.
EZ
Brilliant by Andy, amazing game. Quite tired just watching it!
Itsnoteasy
15-08-2016, 12:08 AM
Who just heard commentator. Murray coming over to acknowledge a band of English supporters. Aye right.
Mikey09
15-08-2016, 12:09 AM
Cracking match!! Take a bow Del Potro. Take a bigger bow Sir Andy Murray of Hibernian. :greengrin
Suburban Hibby
15-08-2016, 12:09 AM
" coming over to a band of English supporters he had obviously seen before'
Did I mistakenly hear that?
cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 12:09 AM
did the commentator just say english supporters ?:confused:
snooky
15-08-2016, 12:09 AM
Are the commentators Argentinian? Didn't we just win the gold? :confused:
(Edit: When I say "we" I mean "England" of course :rolleyes:)
Well done Andy, great match I must admit, Del Potro getting back to his best after long term injury to his wrists, on his day can be unstoppable but Murray's returns make his such a great player.
HUTCHYHIBBY
15-08-2016, 12:11 AM
please, no tears
Why?
Now for the BOLT
I think he could have stopped to tie his laces and still won!
Mikey09
15-08-2016, 12:12 AM
Didn't know England were in the Olympics?! Fannys!!!
Baw187
15-08-2016, 12:12 AM
Got to have huge respect for Del Potro. Decent chap and played brilliantly. Murray is just a persistent pain in the hoop the longer these matches go on.
Off to my scratcher.
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cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 12:12 AM
" coming over to a band of English supporters he had obviously seen before'
Did I mistakenly hear that?
unfortunately no
did the commentator just say english supporters ?:confused:
Aye, very poor i thought
HUTCHYHIBBY
15-08-2016, 12:13 AM
Who just heard commentator. Murray coming over to acknowledge a band of English supporters. Aye right.
Aye, what a fud! :-)
Who just heard commentator. Murray coming over to acknowledge a band of English supporters. Aye right.
did the commentator just say english supporters ?:confused:
Are the commentators Argentinian? Didn't we just win the gold? :confused:
I did say in an earlier post the commentators sounded like a Del Potro love in :confused:
did the commentator just say english supporters ?:confused:
What a tosser the commentator was , well done Andy brilliant performance
heretoday
15-08-2016, 12:45 AM
I don't know how Andy did it. His first serve is awful.
He really must do something about it. Get Goran Ivanisovic to give him lessons.
If nothing else he'll keep our family from going mad watching him!
cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 01:06 AM
Aye, very poor i thought
I did say in an earlier post the commentators sounded like a Del Potro love in :confused:
What a tosser the commentator was , well done Andy brilliant performance
i'm sure we all know how it works, it will be put down as a "slip of the tongue" and any scot questioning why GB fans were called english must have a big chip on their shoulder :agree:
Itsnoteasy
15-08-2016, 01:54 AM
Stayed up for BOLT work in 4 hours aaaaaahhhh
Oscar T Grouch
15-08-2016, 06:52 AM
I don't know how Andy did it. His first serve is awful.
He really must do something about it. Get Goran Ivanisovic to give him lessons.
If nothing else he'll keep our family from going mad watching him!
Think Marin Cilic would have something to say about that 😉
mjhibby
15-08-2016, 07:05 AM
Yes!
Well done Andy!
Fantastic game too.
Just a great spectacle. Andy seems to have discovered the knack of finding a way to win even when he isn't in great form. He is undoubtedly the best British tennis player ever and the best hibby sportsman. Del potro made it gripping stuff and if he was playing anybody bar Andy I would have wanted him to win. Your totally welcome at er Andy and Jamie as well. Just bring the wimbers trophy and your two gold medals. Awesome player and awesome guy.
mjhibby
15-08-2016, 07:08 AM
It would seem also becoming a dad has improved his game a few notches as well. He seems at the moment to be totally focussed and unlikely to lose.
G B Young
15-08-2016, 07:36 AM
Just a great spectacle. Andy seems to have discovered the knack of finding a way to win even when he isn't in great form. He is undoubtedly the best British tennis player ever and the best hibby sportsman. Del potro made it gripping stuff and if he was playing anybody bar Andy I would have wanted him to win. Your totally welcome at er Andy and Jamie as well. Just bring the wimbers trophy and your two gold medals. Awesome player and awesome guy.
Not just tennis, he's the greatest British sportsman ever, no question. In fact he's one of the world's greatest sportsmen. Phenomenal bloke.
Keyser Sauzee
15-08-2016, 07:37 AM
Is Andy the greatest British sportsperson ever?? I can't think of many others of the top of my head.
number9dream
15-08-2016, 07:51 AM
Unbelievable game to break back for 5-5 in the fourth set!
Andy's first serve deserted him for long periods after being at 80% in the semi but he dug in and ground it out against a guy with a rocket of a forehand and a massive serve.
DelPo was hamming it up a bit but both guys deserve enormous credit for fighting spirit in high humidity after a gruelling week.
Now to the serious stuff in New York. Can Muzz keep this amazing run going?
Finn2015
15-08-2016, 08:29 AM
It will be interesting when the US open starts to see what form Djokovic is in. The only barrier left for Murray is if/ when he plays Djokovic again
Onion
15-08-2016, 08:36 AM
Not just tennis, he's the greatest British sportsman ever, no question. In fact he's one of the world's greatest sportsmen. Phenomenal bloke.
This. His skill, determination and ability to perform when under the greatest of pressure (in the era of Nadal, Fed and Djork) marks him out as one of our greatest ever sportsmen. Double Wimbledon champion and now Double Olympic Gold medalist, phenomenal !! If he was English, he'd already be Sir Andy. Forget the PM's wife's hair stylist and get it sorted !!
danhibees1875
15-08-2016, 09:19 AM
Most of us thinking 2016 is a year to remember for Hibs winning the cup. AM has that, Wimbledon, Olympic Gold and becoming a father. Decent year for the lad. :thumbsup:
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15-08-2016, 10:32 AM
I did say in an earlier post the commentators sounded like a Del Potro love in :confused:
The commentators were very poor, and am I the only one astonished that a man as exhausted and distressed as Del Potro appeared to be continued playing as long as he did?
I thought he was going to drop dead at any moment.
He wouldn't have been hamming it up to slow things down and disrupt the flow of the match, would he?
Nah, of course not. That would be GAMESMANSHIP, and this is the Olympics, after all - it's the taking part that's important.
The commentators were very poor, and am I the only one astonished that a man as exhausted and distressed as Del Potro appeared to be continued playing as long as he did?
I thought he was going to drop dead at any moment.
He wouldn't have been hamming it up to slow things down and disrupt the flow of the match, would he?
Nah, of course not. That would be GAMESMANSHIP, and this is the Olympics, after all - it's the taking part that's important.
I thought the unsporting behaviour from Del Potro was shocking, must've got some lessons from Djokovic, another play actor when things not going his was.
Mon Dieu4
15-08-2016, 11:22 AM
I thought the unsporting behaviour from Del Potro was shocking, must've got some lessons from Djokovic, another play actor when things not going his was.
Don't think he did anything untoward, he was just out on his feet
Pedantic_Hibee
15-08-2016, 11:25 AM
Murray does my nut in. Folk go on about his mental strength etc but he reminds me of Hibs in many ways. He flies out the traps, hands his opponent their erse on a plate in the first set and then fades away only to give himself a monumental task (granted he comes good more often than not).
Just wish he'd be a bit more ruthless and absolutely scud his opponent (like Hibs) rather than be so up and down. He probably does it just for the drama.
That said, greatest British sportsman of all time for me, especially considering he's played in era against three of the best players to ever pick up a racquet. Outstanding achievement.
Biggie
15-08-2016, 11:31 AM
It was one of those games you had to see to believe.....highlights simply wouldn't tell the story.
Murray's defence !!?...JHC he was recovering 200km ph rockets coming over the fence. His work-rate was phenomenal, some of his winners breath-taking and all at a time his 1st serve had deserted him.
Highs and lows a plenty.....Murray getting broken almost every game in the 4th, only to break back.....and that break at 4-5 (I think)....bloody hell.
The crowd didn't help with it more like a football match and the argies quite annoying actually.
All in all, an amazing performance and I bet he slept well.
well done and an amazing athlete.
HibsNutter
15-08-2016, 11:32 AM
Murray does my nut in. Folk go on about his mental strength etc but he reminds me of Hibs in many ways. He flies out the traps, hands his opponent their erse on a plate in the first set and then fades away only to give himself a monumental task (granted he comes good more often than not).
Just wish he'd be a bit more ruthless and absolutely scud his opponent (like Hibs) rather than be so up and down. He probably does it just for the drama.
That said, greatest British sportsman of all time for me, especially considering he's played in era against three of the best players to ever pick up a racquet. Outstanding achievement.
There's a difference between struggling to break down Dumbarton and struggling to break down one of the world's best tennis players.
Finn2015
15-08-2016, 11:45 AM
Murray does my nut in. Folk go on about his mental strength etc but he reminds me of Hibs in many ways. He flies out the traps, hands his opponent their erse on a plate in the first set and then fades away only to give himself a monumental task (granted he comes good more often than not).
Just wish he'd be a bit more ruthless and absolutely scud his opponent (like Hibs) rather than be so up and down. He probably does it just for the drama.
That said, greatest British sportsman of all time for me, especially considering he's played in era against three of the best players to ever pick up a racquet. Outstanding achievement.
Tbh there are a lot of good tennis players out there and particularly in five set matches, there will be fluctuations. The main thing is he has become supremely fit and has the mental strength to get over tough or adverse moments. Del potro was never going to be a pushover
Pedantic_Hibee
15-08-2016, 11:51 AM
There's a difference between struggling to break down Dumbarton and struggling to break down one of the world's best tennis players.
You're forgetting the Colin Nish effect. A test of any man's mental strength.
Shrekko
15-08-2016, 11:56 AM
Murray does my nut in. Folk go on about his mental strength etc but he reminds me of Hibs in many ways. He flies out the traps, hands his opponent their erse on a plate in the first set and then fades away only to give himself a monumental task (granted he comes good more often than not).
Just wish he'd be a bit more ruthless and absolutely scud his opponent (like Hibs) rather than be so up and down. He probably does it just for the drama.
That said, greatest British sportsman of all time for me, especially considering he's played in era against three of the best players to ever pick up a racquet. Outstanding achievement.
He does your head in because he doesn't thrash world class players constantly? Any man inside the top 100 is capable of winning matches and sets against each other. You have to be aware that the opposition are entitled to win points as well. His game management is mainly masterly- I don't see the problem. It's got him to world number 2 and he's won his last 3 tournaments. People are way too picky. He's a bit eccentric at times but most of the criticisms aimed at him are miles OTT.
WeeRussell
15-08-2016, 12:02 PM
I thought the unsporting behaviour from Del Potro was shocking, must've got some lessons from Djokovic, another play actor when things not going his was.
That is an incredibly biased comment. Del Potro has always been one of the slower players and was genuinely knackered (did you not note him struggling to chase down balls as the tank emptied in the latter sets) - the umpire's timing of warnings and refusing challenges were worse than anything he done. Murray swore on a few occasions and was in with one or two very late challenges - I haven't an issue with this but it's unfair to pick on Del Potro and his behaviour certainly wasn't "shocking"!
jacomo
15-08-2016, 12:04 PM
Murray does my nut in. Folk go on about his mental strength etc but he reminds me of Hibs in many ways. He flies out the traps, hands his opponent their erse on a plate in the first set and then fades away only to give himself a monumental task (granted he comes good more often than not).
Just wish he'd be a bit more ruthless and absolutely scud his opponent (like Hibs) rather than be so up and down. He probably does it just for the drama.
That said, greatest British sportsman of all time for me, especially considering he's played in era against three of the best players to ever pick up a racquet. Outstanding achievement.
He has developed the habit of smacking lower-ranked opponents aside.
But in these finals, he is invariably playing against the greatest crop of men's tennis players ever. Dominating the entire match is probably unrealistic.
Andy's achievements are stellar. Watching him develop from a promising teenager to a global star has been a treat. He recognised just how hard he would have to work to win, and rose to the occasion.
jacomo
15-08-2016, 12:06 PM
That is an incredibly biased comment. Del Potro has always been one of the slower players and was genuinely knackered (did you not note him struggling to chase down balls as the tank emptied in the latter sets) - the umpire's timing of warnings and refusing challenges were worse than anything he done. Murray swore on a few occasions and was in with one or two very late challenges - I haven't an issue with this but it's unfair to pick on Del Potro and his behaviour certainly wasn't "shocking"!
IMO, Del Potro was laying it on a bit thick at times - such as when he 'rested' for ages on the net in the 4th set.
WeeRussell
15-08-2016, 12:13 PM
IMO, Del Potro was laying it on a bit thick at times - such as when he 'rested' for ages on the net in the 4th set.
He did do that a couple of times after long rallies - he then smiled and applauded Murray, who was sat leaning on his racquet also taking a rest on occasion. Not bad sportmanship for me.
The Umpire is there to let the players know when they're going too far - I don't think last night's would have had much hesitation!
Anyway - great match (almost as good as the one between Nadal and Del Potro the previous round) and another great achievement for Murray. I just think some go a little overboard and are very unbalanced in their views because of who Murray is :aok:
JimBHibees
15-08-2016, 12:16 PM
Was great to see the players genuie affection at the end of the game obviously Andy has forgiven DelPo's comments about his mum a few years back. :greengrin
grunt
15-08-2016, 12:34 PM
Andy's achievements are stellar. Watching him develop from a promising teenager to a global star has been a treat. Agreed.
Pedantic_Hibee
15-08-2016, 12:47 PM
He does your head in because he doesn't thrash world class players constantly? Any man inside the top 100 is capable of winning matches and sets against each other. You have to be aware that the opposition are entitled to win points as well. His game management is mainly masterly- I don't see the problem. It's got him to world number 2 and he's won his last 3 tournaments. People are way too picky. He's a bit eccentric at times but most of the criticisms aimed at him are miles OTT.
I'm not on about the worlds greatest players, I should have made that clear. It's a testament to him that he not only competes against them but also wins more often than not. I just think after excellent starts against weaker opponents he should be steamrollering them. Much like Hibs.
blackpoolhibs
15-08-2016, 12:51 PM
Andy Murray wins almost every match he plays in, and folk want him to do it better? :confused:
Pedantic_Hibee
15-08-2016, 12:54 PM
Andy Murray wins almost every match he plays in, and folk want him to do it better? :confused:
More ruthless I mean. He's got it in him. He starts like a train and then causes a whole lot of unnecessary drama, falls out with himself and then goes for a grandstand finish and wins. Nae need.
blackpoolhibs
15-08-2016, 12:58 PM
More ruthless I mean. He's got it in him. He starts like a train and then causes a whole lot of unnecessary drama, falls out with himself and then goes for a grandstand finish and wins. Nae need.
I think you do the other players a real disservice, the players that are in the top 20 maybe even higher are all very good players in their own right.
All capable of beating the very best at any given time, but Murray has a toughness about him these days that 99% of the time gets him through.
stantonhibby
15-08-2016, 01:04 PM
I'm not on about the worlds greatest players, I should have made that clear. It's a testament to him that he not only competes against them but also wins more often than not. I just think after excellent starts against weaker opponents he should be steamrollering them. Much like Hibs.
He hardly dropped a set on his way to his to his win at Wimbledon.
Andy.1875
15-08-2016, 01:35 PM
Has he ever been seen at Easter Road?
cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 01:48 PM
Has he ever been seen at Easter Road?
no idea, but judy has, her and kim are welcome anytime :)
judy was also at the SC final
That is an incredibly biased comment. Del Potro has always been one of the slower players and was genuinely knackered (did you not note him struggling to chase down balls as the tank emptied in the latter sets) - the umpire's timing of warnings and refusing challenges were worse than anything he done. Murray swore on a few occasions and was in with one or two very late challenges - I haven't an issue with this but it's unfair to pick on Del Potro and his behaviour certainly wasn't "shocking"!
Why biased?
It's my perception of what I saw last night, Dell Potro is well known for his gamesmanship, taking ages between shots a day making miraculous recoveries, he's been doing it his whole career.
cabbageandribs1875
15-08-2016, 01:53 PM
Why biased?
It's my perception of what I saw last night, Dell Potro is well known for his gamesmanship, taking ages between shots a day making miraculous recoveries, he's been doing it his whole career.
at the end of one mega rally he was leaning on the net for about 10 mins(well, plenty seconds anyway) at first i thought he was just exhausted, then i started getting suspicious :greengrin then the camera pans in on murray and he's looking at him saying c'mon man get on with it ffs
Shrekko
15-08-2016, 02:01 PM
Has he ever been seen at Easter Road?
When he was a kid yeah- plenty pictures of that and also him wearing Hibs gear. He's been kind of busy the past 15 years though....
Wilson
15-08-2016, 02:09 PM
Why biased?
It's my perception of what I saw last night, Dell Potro is well known for his gamesmanship, taking ages between shots a day making miraculous recoveries, he's been doing it his whole career.
In that case why didn't he feign a proper injury and get the trainer on? Or take an extended 'bathroom' break? I'm afraid you are seeing what you want to see. Yes he was dragging points out but it was tactical because it suits his game. You can't berate him for managing his own game because it doesn't suit Murray.
In that case why didn't he feign a proper injury and get the trainer on? Or take an extended 'bathroom' break? I'm afraid you are seeing what you want to see. Yes he was dragging points out but it was tactical because it suits his game. You can't berate him for managing his own game because it doesn't suit Murray.
Of course it was tactical, football teams do it all the time, doesn't mean to say I agree with him doing it. Djokovic used to do it all the time when things didn't go his way, out came the physio and a wee 10 min treatment to gather his thoughts and disrupt his opponent.
G B Young
15-08-2016, 02:28 PM
I thought the unsporting behaviour from Del Potro was shocking, must've got some lessons from Djokovic, another play actor when things not going his was.
Del Potro has been injured for much of the last few years so I've not really been aware of any perceived gamesmanship from him, but I'd agree about Djokovic. He was renowned for it earlier in his career, pulling out of matches due to alleged injuries on a regular basis. Then came the apparent 'gluten free miracle'. He's still not above a spot of gamesmanship though, especially in matches where he's struggling against Andy Murray.
I think Del Potro was just shattered last night rather than trying to disrupt the match. That forehand of his is pretty much unplayable for most mortals, but the relentlessness which which Andy was getting it back in court must have been soul destroying for Del Potro and it finally wore him down.
As for Andy being like Hibs, well for me he's everything Hibs are not ie he never knows when he's beaten and has a winner's mentality at all times!
Has he ever been seen at Easter Road?
Dunno about Easter Road but he was at East Mains last summer.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-sets-up-meeting-with-with-andy-murray-1-3829486
I think being a world-class, professional athlete who competes all over the world might restrict his opportunity to be in Leith any given saturday :wink:
Finn2015
15-08-2016, 02:46 PM
Dunno about Easter Road but he was at East Mains last summer.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-sets-up-meeting-with-with-andy-murray-1-3829486
I think being a world-class, professional athlete who competes all over the world might restrict his opportunity to be in Leith any given saturday :wink:
He's just not as committed as the rest of us world class athletes, like me, on hibs.net 😄
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15-08-2016, 03:40 PM
In that case why didn't he feign a proper injury and get the trainer on? Or take an extended 'bathroom' break? I'm afraid you are seeing what you want to see. Yes he was dragging points out but it was tactical because it suits his game. You can't berate him for managing his own game because it doesn't suit Murray.
He had the physio on more than once. There is actually a rule that play should be continuous - Potroast was making a mockery of it at times.
I'm saying 'gamesmanship' - which is behaviour just next door to actual cheating. In other words, dragging points out in a 'tactical' fashion by pretending to be exhausted and in distress when he obviously wasn't. If he had been, he wouldn't have been able to keep playing as long as he did.
So if we're playing a vital game towards the close of the season, and we're 1-0 down and the opposition start taking ages over throw-ins and free-kicks, and falling down and having to physio on for 'cramp' etc, and they manage to disrupt play and run the clock down and prevent us from playing, that'll be OK?
blackpoolhibs
15-08-2016, 03:56 PM
He had the physio on more than once. There is actually a rule that play should be continuous - Potroast was making a mockery of it at times.
I'm saying 'gamesmanship' - which is behaviour just next door to actual cheating. In other words, dragging points out in a 'tactical' fashion by pretending to be exhausted and in distress when he obviously wasn't. If he had been, he wouldn't have been able to keep playing as long as he did.
So if we're playing a vital game towards the close of the season, and we're 1-0 down and the opposition start taking ages over throw-ins and free-kicks, and falling down and having to physio on for 'cramp' etc, and they manage to disrupt play and run the clock down and prevent us from playing, that'll be OK?
If we are 1-0 up and we are doing it i will be over the moon. :greengrin
Albanian Hibs
15-08-2016, 05:19 PM
Think its time that he came to easter road and brought his olympic gold and wimbledon trophy with him, and he could probably carry out the scottish cup too! Would love to see that.
mjhibby
15-08-2016, 07:00 PM
Has he ever been seen at Easter Road?
He has attended a couple of games I read. Been at East mains a couple of times too. I'm sure his grandad keeps him up to date in all things hibs and he tweets regularly about us.
Dom'sFirstTouch
15-08-2016, 08:19 PM
It's pretty rare to completely dominate matches against top 100 players over 5 sets, especially on slower courts like last night. Everyone is capable of stringing together periods of high quality play. You see players ranked well into the hundreds smacking winners for a game or two, the difference is the top guys can sustain it. Murray has marginally more dips than Federer/Nadal/Djokovic at their best, but I'd say there's very little in it.
He'll be frustrated that he played two average service games to get broken immediately after winning sets which did allow Del Potro back in to an extent, but he played some stunning tennis outside of that. The flip side is the amount of times Murray is apparently getting pasted by someone playing incredible tennis but he hangs in, then turns it around with a few inspirational points before running away with it.
He's an absolute champ and I really hope he wins a few more slams to cement his place among the best. He deserves it.
northstandhibby
15-08-2016, 08:47 PM
I thought Andy was beat several times and it was marvelous at the end to see him win it. Got to hand to Del Potro for his part in what was a brilliant game to watch. The fans of both men were brilliant too with their non-stop loud vocal support. A fantastic game of tennis. Well done Andy Murray, different class!
Glory Glory
HUTCHYHIBBY
15-08-2016, 09:26 PM
I think being a world-class, professional athlete who competes all over the world might restrict his opportunity to be in Leith any given saturday :wink:
A bit like myself, or not being able to use my old mans concession ticket, people that know me will know its the former. :-)
HUTCHYHIBBY
15-08-2016, 09:30 PM
The fans of both men were brilliant too with their non-stop loud vocal support. A fantastic game of tennis. Well done Andy Murray, different class!
Glory Glory
Particularly the group of English fans with the Jimmy Hats and Scotland tops on that he went to greet at the end of the final.
Finn2015
15-08-2016, 09:32 PM
I thought Andy was beat several times and it was marvelous at the end to see him win it. Got to hand to Del Potro for his part in what was a brilliant game to watch. The fans of both men were brilliant too with their non-stop loud vocal support. A fantastic game of tennis. Well done Andy Murray, different class!
Glory Glory
There seemed to be a really great atmosphere during the match
RoYO!
15-08-2016, 10:19 PM
I'm not on about the worlds greatest players, I should have made that clear. It's a testament to him that he not only competes against them but also wins more often than not. I just think after excellent starts against weaker opponents he should be steamrollering them. Much like Hibs.
The vast majority of the time he cruises thru to later stages. That's been the case for what seems at least like a couple of years. The olympics was the anomaly- it's very rare to see him not press on once he's in the lead.
WeeRussell
16-08-2016, 11:32 AM
Was great to see the players genuie affection at the end of the game obviously Andy has forgiven DelPo's comments about his mum a few years back. :greengrin
This is another thing that is always made out to be more than it ever was. It was something along the lines of "You and your mum, always the same" while Murray was losing the head and Judy was shouting from the stand. Granted, Del Potro probably shouldn't have said it but it was an over reaction from Murray during the heat of the moment, and for a while after it - and a bigger over reaction from media/some Murray fans.
The way my mate told me about it, I believed for ages that he had made some derogatory, insulting, 'your mum' type comment.. then watched the video and seen exactly what it was, really.
The incident (if you can call it that) was almost a decade ago. I'm not surprised at all that they get on fine now.
I realise my last couple of posts may make some people think I am anti-Murray and Pro-Del Potro :greengrin I actually only really started to like the latter after this weekend, and looking forward to seeing him in the US Open! I just think there are a lot of blinkered views when it comes to Murray and his opponents, as you would expect in any sporting excitement!
G B Young
20-08-2016, 08:29 AM
I see Andy's gone straight from that gruelling Olympic triumph to the Cincinnati Masters and has won through to the semi-finals despite carrying a back injury. Plays Raonic today which will be a test after Raonic gave the Olympics a miss to focus on the US open.
Finn2015
20-08-2016, 08:40 AM
I see Andy's gone straight from that gruelling Olympic triumph to the Cincinnati Masters and has won through to the semi-finals despite carrying a back injury. Plays Raonic today which will be a test after Raonic gave the Olympics a miss to focus on the US open.
That's my worry about his chances in he upcoming US Open. Needs a rest really
blackpoolhibs
20-08-2016, 12:06 PM
FFS he's not gone and won again has he?
greenteam
20-08-2016, 12:47 PM
FFS he's not gone and won again has he?
I think its 21 wins in a row
greenteam
20-08-2016, 12:49 PM
Think its 22 wins in a row
PatHead
20-08-2016, 01:04 PM
Think it is 22 wins on the spin.
He is also closing up on the number 1 ranking spot. If he wins this tournament he will be on 8225 points while Djokavic is on 9040. Not sure how many points you get for a slam event.
Must be in with a shout of being world number 1 by the end of the year.
number9dream
20-08-2016, 05:03 PM
Think it is 22 wins on the spin.
He is also closing up on the number 1 ranking spot. If he wins this tournament he will be on 8225 points while Djokavic is on 9040. Not sure how many points you get for a slam event.
Must be in with a shout of being world number 1 by the end of the year.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles
He's a long way behind Djokovic at the moment. No points for Olympics or Davis Cup exploits, unfortunately.
Djoko will lose points by missing Cincinatti but Muzz reached semis last year so he won't pick up too many more even if he wins the title since it's a complicated system of defending points.
A win in New York would be a big help!
HibbyAndy
20-08-2016, 05:06 PM
Time is Andy on tonight ?
iwasthere1972
20-08-2016, 05:07 PM
Time is Andy on tonight ?
Tennish. :wink:
hibee_nation
20-08-2016, 05:09 PM
Tennish. :wink:
As Sean Connery would say. 😀
HibbyAndy
20-08-2016, 05:09 PM
Tennish. :wink:
:greengrin
Eire hibs
20-08-2016, 05:15 PM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles
He's a long way behind Djokovic at the moment. No points for Olympics or Davis Cup exploits, unfortunately.
Djoko will lose points by missing Cincinatti but Muzz reached semis last year so he won't pick up too many more even if he wins the title since it's a complicated system of defending points.
A win in New York would be a big help!
You get points for the Davis Cup. 250 as I recall.
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PatHead
20-08-2016, 05:19 PM
Time is Andy on tonight ?
Not before 7pm their time. Is that midnight?
iwasthere1972
20-08-2016, 05:20 PM
Not before 7pm their time. Is that midnight?
11pm I think.
RoYO!
20-08-2016, 05:20 PM
Think it is 22 wins on the spin.
He is also closing up on the number 1 ranking spot. If he wins this tournament he will be on 8225 points while Djokavic is on 9040. Not sure how many points you get for a slam event.
Must be in with a shout of being world number 1 by the end of the year.
Is it not 2000 for a slam win? Not looked it up. Can see Andy doing it!
Viva_Palmeiras
20-08-2016, 05:21 PM
Think its 22 wins in a row
Now thAts a proper 22-in-a-row...
PatHead
20-08-2016, 05:23 PM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles
He's a long way behind Djokovic at the moment. No points for Olympics or Davis Cup exploits, unfortunately.
Djoko will lose points by missing Cincinatti but Muzz reached semis last year so he won't pick up too many more even if he wins the title since it's a complicated system of defending points.
A win in New York would be a big help!
I had obviously looked up wrong table. In the race for the end of this year he might win but he is still far behind in the rankings. Are they over more than 1 year?
http://live-tennis.eu/race
number9dream
20-08-2016, 05:48 PM
I had obviously looked up wrong table. In the race for the end of this year he might win but he is still far behind in the rankings. Are they over more than 1 year?
http://live-tennis.eu/race
They must be since Federer has hardly played in 2016.
Hope Andy has enough left in the tank for US Open. Reports suggest he was pretty knackered against Tomic last night.
resident_Arab
20-08-2016, 05:57 PM
Tomic win was #21 in a row
greenteam
20-08-2016, 06:49 PM
Tomic win was #21 in a row
Was never good at maths lol
Anyway 21 games unbeaten. .lets replicate that.
mjhibby
20-08-2016, 06:59 PM
There's a weeks break after the Cincinnati open then Andy will play a week on Tuesday at the us open so has ten days for niggles to heal. I wish he wouldn't bother chasing the no 1 spot and just concentrate on the majors as that is what he will be judged on. Probably lendl trying to install a totally winning mentality is behind his desire to be ranked no 1.
HibbyAndy
20-08-2016, 07:18 PM
There's a weeks break after the Cincinnati open then Andy will play a week on Tuesday at the us open so has ten days for niggles to heal. I wish he wouldn't bother chasing the no 1 spot and just concentrate on the majors as that is what he will be judged on. Probably lendl trying to install a totally winning mentality is behind his desire to be ranked no 1.
Is he chasing number 1 spot though ?
I genuinely think Murray plays to win EVERY single game/tournament/match he plays in..I don't think he is actively seeking number 1 status, Though it would be a bonus.
Andy74
20-08-2016, 07:53 PM
Is it not 2000 for a slam win? Not looked it up. Can see Andy doing it!
Not sure it works quite that way. The points change relative to how you did in the tournament the previous year I think.
HibbyAndy
20-08-2016, 07:55 PM
Not sure it works quite that way. The points change relative to how you did in the tournament the previous year I think.
Wimbledon is in the bag then.
Dom'sFirstTouch
20-08-2016, 08:36 PM
There are two Ranking systems that run concurrently, the Singles Rankings (points gained over the last 12 months) and the Singles Race (points gained this season, or since January 1st), also referred to as the 'Race to London'. They should match by the end of the season. I think it's based on points gained in the Slams, Master 1000s and a small selection (maybe 5?) of best results gained in smaller tournaments.
Djokovic is well ahead currently because of all the points he accumulated in the first half this season and the end of last season (US Open, Australian Open, French Open, World Tour Finals and 6 Master 1000s). Realistically, to achieve Number 1 in the near future Andy would have to completely dominate from now until Wimbledon next year. Or Djokovic to get horribly injured for a while!
It's definitely possible but I think he'd be happy with some more Slams.
mjhibby
20-08-2016, 08:37 PM
Not sure it works quite that way. The points change relative to how you did in the tournament the previous year I think.
It's 2000 for majors,1000 for the bigger masters tournaments and 500 for the smaller master tournaments. Andy is 6400 points behind djokovic but could reduce that by 1000 if he wins in Cincinnati. He will have to win a couple of majors in succession and djokovic not reach the finals to overtake him. Andy is defending a very good years total so it will be extremely tough to get near him. He did state that being no1: was a goal for him but did say it would be very hard to achieve.
mjhibby
20-08-2016, 08:43 PM
I can see Andy winning in Oz and then targeting the French for the grand slam so to speak. He's in a great groove at the moment and is winning even when his serve isn't at its best. If he gets more consistent on his 1st serve he is going to take some stopping. None of the up and coming players are at Andy's level yet though raonic and del potro if he can stay injury free could be dangerous in the next couple of years.
Marco G
20-08-2016, 09:48 PM
There's a weeks break after the Cincinnati open then Andy will play a week on Tuesday at the us open so has ten days for niggles to heal. I wish he wouldn't bother chasing the no 1 spot and just concentrate on the majors as that is what he will be judged on. Probably lendl trying to install a totally winning mentality is behind his desire to be ranked no 1.
Plus practice on fast hot courts after the slow Rio courts will be useful. He will have enough time to be ready for New York.
mjhibby
21-08-2016, 12:05 AM
Plus practice on fast hot courts after the slow Rio courts will be useful. He will have enough time to be ready for New York.
Indeed.
Shrekko
21-08-2016, 01:05 AM
#22 in the books and what a superb performance. Hopefully one more win then a rest before the US Open. Incredible run.
number9dream
21-08-2016, 03:52 AM
Muzz saying he's "not feeling perfect" but just oozing confidence right now. He brushed big Raonic aside...
Oscar T Grouch
21-08-2016, 06:18 AM
Can't see Cilic causing Andy and problems in the final today. Get this under his belt and get a good rest before the US Open kicks off.
PatHead
21-08-2016, 10:14 AM
Murray's 50th win of the year. What a machine.
BTW Think the final should be on about 9pm.
PatHead
21-08-2016, 08:15 PM
On now
pedroorange1875
21-08-2016, 08:36 PM
Interesting that Djokovic was shocking in the month before and at the Olympics, strange.....maybe just getting things out his system :wink:
Sir David Gray
21-08-2016, 08:42 PM
Cilic serving for the first set, 5-2.
Sir David Gray
21-08-2016, 08:47 PM
Murray gets one of the breaks back, 3-5.
Sir David Gray
21-08-2016, 08:52 PM
Cilic takes the first set 6-4.
Finn2015
21-08-2016, 09:13 PM
Be interesting to see how Djokovic performs at the us open, hopefully recent woes continue
Finn2015
21-08-2016, 09:43 PM
Cilic will be serving for the game in a min. Looks like a game to far for Murray
Jim44
21-08-2016, 09:43 PM
Cilic serving for the match.
Sir David Gray
21-08-2016, 09:45 PM
Cilic wins 6-4 7-5.
Murray now has a week to rest and prepare for the start of the US Open.
cabbageandribs1875
21-08-2016, 09:46 PM
did i spot this top in the crowd :greengrin
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Scottish_Football_League/Hibernian/images/hibernian-2010-2011-away.gif
Jim44
21-08-2016, 09:48 PM
Murray wasn't at the races. He looked physically but more so, mentally knackered.
cabbageandribs1875
21-08-2016, 09:53 PM
was cillic not just doing the same as del pedro(whatever) done.... keep hitting the ball long
jacomo
21-08-2016, 09:58 PM
Murray wasn't at the races. He looked physically but more so, mentally knackered.
He last won the US Open in 2012, after winning gold in London, so you never know, but I'm not surprised he's tired. He's had a momentous year, both professionally and personally.
Finn2015
21-08-2016, 10:04 PM
Best thing he can do is have a good rest for the next two weeks and get his mind right for the US open
Sir David Gray
21-08-2016, 10:52 PM
Best thing he can do is have a good rest for the next two weeks and get his mind right for the US open
The US Open starts a week tomorrow.
Hermit Crab
22-08-2016, 01:20 AM
Pumped in straight sets in his latest final.
Finn2015
22-08-2016, 01:59 AM
The US Open starts a week tomorrow.
Fair enough. The commentator said two weeks
mjhibby
22-08-2016, 03:05 AM
I'm amazed he got as far as he did. Winning Wimbledon and more so the Olympic gold must have drained him. I wonder if he ever thought of giving the tournament a miss. It has been a fabulous year but winning the us open will be tough even though he will be favourite with Novak out of sorts at the moment.
Marco G
22-08-2016, 09:50 AM
Pumped in straight sets in his latest final.
Thanks for your usual insightful comment. You must have been watching a different match to me. First set he had early chances but Cilic played v well and won it 6-4. Second set could have easy gone to tie breaker but Cilic won 7-5. Murray was clearly tired after the Olympics, but was he pumped? No. Oh and by the way he had won his last 23 matches. Will be happy if we can do the same!
Hermit Crab
22-08-2016, 10:51 AM
Thanks for your usual insightful comment. You must have been watching a different match to me. First set he had early chances but Cilic played v well and won it 6-4. Second set could have easy gone to tie breaker but Cilic won 7-5. Murray was clearly tired after the Olympics, but was he pumped? No. Oh and by the way he had won his last 23 matches. Will be happy if we can do the same!
Did id he lose in straight sets? Yes. He got pumped. Not slagging him off. He lost, big deal. This is a football forum anyway, this thread should be in other sports.
WeeRussell
22-08-2016, 11:36 AM
Did id he lose in straight sets? Yes. He got pumped. Not slagging him off. He lost, big deal. This is a football forum anyway, this thread should be in other sports.
:hilarious Someone is feeling the Monday Morning effects today!! That was a very miserable post, even for you Hermit :greengrin
G B Young
01-09-2016, 07:43 PM
Andy's moving nicely through the gears at the US Open. Through to the third round without dropping a set. 24 wins in his last 25 matches including Queen's, Wimbledon and Olympic titles. Must be the best spell of his career.
theonlywayisup
30-10-2016, 04:02 PM
Is Andy the most famous Hibs supporter ever ?
Double Wimbledon Champion, Olympic Gold Medalist, captain of Davis Cup Winning team and now flag bearer for the British Olympic Team in Rio. Sir Andy only a matter of time ?
Soon to be World No. 1
It could happen as early as next week.
Sir David Gray
30-10-2016, 05:23 PM
Soon to be World No. 1
It could happen as early as next week.
He'll go to number one if he wins in Paris next week and Djokovic doesn't get to the final or if Murray gets to the final and Djokovic goes out before the semis.
It would be a great achievement if/when it happens.
Speedy
30-10-2016, 09:07 PM
He'll go to number one if he wins in Paris next week and Djokovic doesn't get to the final or if Murray gets to the final and Djokovic goes out before the semis.
It would be a great achievement if/when it happens.
Don't think he's as close as that. Still around 2000 points behind is he not?
Sir David Gray
30-10-2016, 09:54 PM
Don't think he's as close as that. Still around 2000 points behind is he not?
His victory today puts him 1915 points behind Djokovic.
However the tennis rankings are worked out so that you are always compared with your performance from exactly 12 months ago.
For the Paris Masters, Djokovic won the tournament last year so he has 1000 points to defend there. If he goes out at the semi final stage, he'll lose 640 points and if Murray wins the tournament he'll gain 400 points (he lost in the final last year).
That would put Djokovic on 12260 points and Murray on 11385 points going into the World Tour Finals in London.
When the points for last year's Finals event get deducted before this year's event, Murray would then be on 11185 and Djokovic would be on 10960.
theonlywayisup
31-10-2016, 06:39 AM
His victory today puts him 1915 points behind Djokovic.
However the tennis rankings are worked out so that you are always compared with your performance from exactly 12 months ago.
For the Paris Masters, Djokovic won the tournament last year so he has 1000 points to defend there. If he goes out at the semi final stage, he'll lose 640 points and if Murray wins the tournament he'll gain 400 points (he lost in the final last year).
That would put Djokovic on 12260 points and Murray on 11385 points going into the World Tour Finals in London.
When the points for last year's Finals event get deducted before this year's event, Murray would then be on 11185 and Djokovic would be on 10960.
100% true Sir
Speedy
31-10-2016, 07:44 AM
His victory today puts him 1915 points behind Djokovic.
However the tennis rankings are worked out so that you are always compared with your performance from exactly 12 months ago.
For the Paris Masters, Djokovic won the tournament last year so he has 1000 points to defend there. If he goes out at the semi final stage, he'll lose 640 points and if Murray wins the tournament he'll gain 400 points (he lost in the final last year).
That would put Djokovic on 12260 points and Murray on 11385 points going into the World Tour Finals in London.
When the points for last year's Finals event get deducted before this year's event, Murray would then be on 11185 and Djokovic would be on 10960.
Fair enough. I was thinking the Tour Finals points would come off when it was played.
Hope he does it in style and wins the next 2. If he does he'll have a great chance to stay there for a while because Djokovic had a very good start to the year.
Sir David Gray
02-11-2016, 08:17 PM
Hard fought victory for Murray tonight against Fernando Verdasco, into the third round of the Paris Masters.
Murray wins 6-3 6-7 7-5.
Verdasco had two breaks points at 5-5 in the final set and would have been serving for the match.
The world number one dream lives on.
HUTCHYHIBBY
04-11-2016, 07:53 AM
Murray and Djokovic both win, Murray beat Pouille 6-3 6-0 and Djokovic beat Dimitrov 4-6 6-2 6-3
Speedy
04-11-2016, 12:08 PM
Murray and Djokovic both win, Murray beat Pouille 6-3 6-0 and Djokovic beat Dimitrov 4-6 6-2 6-3
Very impressive win for Murray.
Oscar T Grouch
04-11-2016, 04:49 PM
Djokovic loses in quarters today. If Andy get to the final he will be worlds number 1 on Monday. Well deserved on his form this year.
Sir David Gray
04-11-2016, 06:48 PM
Murray comes from 6-1 down in the tiebreak to win the first set 7-6 vs Tomas Berdych.
jodjam
04-11-2016, 06:49 PM
Murray comes from 6-1 down in the tiebreak to win the first set 7-6 vs Tomas Berdych.
That was a stunning tie break
Sir David Gray
04-11-2016, 07:24 PM
That was a stunning tie break
Brilliant - so many twists and turns.
Sir David Gray
04-11-2016, 07:30 PM
Murray broken when serving for the match - 5-5 second set.
Sir David Gray
04-11-2016, 07:41 PM
Murray wins 7-6 7-5 and is one win away from being world number one. :aok:
Ryan91
05-11-2016, 01:35 PM
Andy Murray Now confirmed as new World Number 1, after Raonic withdrew from their Semi-Final matchup in Paris
One of our Own
s.a.m
05-11-2016, 01:36 PM
....and he's not going to need his win, because Raonic has pulled out. Well done, Andy!
HUTCHYHIBBY
05-11-2016, 02:00 PM
Nice one Andy!
Speedy
06-11-2016, 02:21 PM
Great hold for Murray after being 0-40 down.
Won the first & 4-4 up in the second. Isner to serve.
Speedy
06-11-2016, 02:43 PM
1 set all. Great serving from Isner.
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