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Thecat23
15-07-2016, 05:51 PM
I hoped Harris was going to come back to us like the old pre-injury Harris but I felt the early signs weren't promising last night. I know he didn't have long but these are the opportunities he needs to grasp and I think he had a couple of decent opportunities last night that he made a but of an arse of.
Pretty much what I said to my mate after the game. He's not direct and he won't make it at Hibs. If im proved wrong I'll happily hold my hands up but I just can't see it myself.
The_Horde
15-07-2016, 06:57 PM
Pretty much what I said to my mate after the game. He's not direct and he won't make it at Hibs. If im proved wrong I'll happily hold my hands up but I just can't see it myself.
I'd go as far as saying we won't get promoted if we're relying on players like Alex. Good lad, had genuine talent. But not good enough at this minute for what we need.
Andy74
15-07-2016, 06:59 PM
I'd go as far as saying we won't get promoted if we're relying on players like Alex. Good lad, had genuine talent. But not good enough at this minute for what we need.
Yep. Been saying this since folk have been happy to have them back in the squad. They won't improve it.
Dibben
15-07-2016, 07:15 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/07/15/hibs-close-on-aberdeens-peter-pawlett/
Pawlett loan deal close...
Could this mean that Commons deal isn't happening?
Ozyhibby
15-07-2016, 07:19 PM
Yep. Been saying this since folk have been happy to have them back in the squad. They won't improve it.
We have this every window. Harris, Handling and Stanton will be going out on loan again.
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bingo70
15-07-2016, 07:23 PM
Could this mean that Commons deal isn't happening?
I think l'll be in the minority of one but I hope not.
We need pace and less midfielders. Commons would take a big wage and we've already got holt that can't run.
Dunbar Hibee
15-07-2016, 07:26 PM
I think Harris will get a good chance from Lennon, just hope he takes it.
southsider
15-07-2016, 07:32 PM
He seems devoid of confidence. Twice had the chance to go down the line and whip over a cross. Chose easy option by cutting inside and playing short pass. I like the boy and really hope Lenny can give him his pre-Butcher swagger back.
Ozyhibby
15-07-2016, 07:44 PM
I think l'll be in the minority of one but I hope not.
We need pace and less midfielders. Commons would take a big wage and we've already got holt that can't run.
We also need creativity which Commons brings.
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snooky
15-07-2016, 07:51 PM
We mostly need a player who can score goals with half a chance. The likes of Leigh & Stokes.
(Hold on a minute.... :tin hat:)
Sadly we don't have the dosh - I know.
keep the faith
15-07-2016, 08:17 PM
I'm delighted we are letting this squad build on the year together and the mega confidence boost the cup win has given. Let's see how we go and instead wait for quality in August only if we need it. Players start to become available again at that point once new managers make decisions.
I think we may want to see if the likes of Hendo and dare I say it Allan are in Rogers plans. Two players who would fit into this side and enhance it.
jacomo
15-07-2016, 11:13 PM
I'm delighted we are letting this squad build on the year together and the mega confidence boost the cup win has given. Let's see how we go and instead wait for quality in August only if we need it. Players start to become available again at that point once new managers make decisions.
I think we may want to see if the likes of Hendo and dare I say it Allan are in Rogers plans. Two players who would fit into this side and enhance it.
:agree:
We have a good team with potential. McGinn signed 31 July last year, McGeouch and Hendo later than that of course. It seems very quiet on rumours, but there is still a long time til the window shuts.
FWIW I thought Rodgers would keep Hendo. Maybe not. Allan not sure, and I'm not sure I want him back.
Highland_Hibee
15-07-2016, 11:46 PM
:agree:
We have a good team with potential. McGinn signed 31 July last year, McGeouch and Hendo later than that of course. It seems very quiet on rumours, but there is still a long time til the window shuts.
FWIW I thought Rodgers would keep Hendo. Maybe not. Allan not sure, and I'm not sure I want him back.
I'd take him back and make him sit on the bench and tell him watch young John McGinn and how over with the fans he is. That could have been you that could.
Ozyhibby
16-07-2016, 12:20 AM
I would take Allan back no problem. He needs to leave Celtic this window. He has played a ridiculously low amount of first team games for his age.
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jacomo
16-07-2016, 07:20 AM
I would take Allan back no problem. He needs to leave Celtic this window. He has played a ridiculously low amount of first team games for his age.
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I think we'd all like more goals from midfield. Allan doesn't score many.
Hendo doesn't either but offers a lot more IMO.
jacomo
16-07-2016, 07:21 AM
I would take Allan back no problem. He needs to leave Celtic this window. He has played a ridiculously low amount of first team games for his age.
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I think we'd all like more goals from midfield. Allan doesn't score many.
Hendo doesn't either but is a much more rounded player.
Keep Allan away from here, bad influence and a lot of players will not accept him back after what happened before, plus he's had almost zero football in a year and we have just as good here and potentially better in Henderson if and when he comes back.
NORTHERNHIBBY
16-07-2016, 07:42 AM
I would take Allan back no problem. He needs to leave Celtic this window. He has played a ridiculously low amount of first team games for his age.
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No doubt in his ability but if he came back to us and had another season like he had before there would be doubt over his attitude and whether he would take the huff again.
lucky
16-07-2016, 07:46 AM
Scott Allan would be a fantastic signing for any club in Scotland. It's silly to suggest he's not good enough for Hibs. The boy has talent and can open up defences with his ability
spudhib
16-07-2016, 07:59 AM
Scott Allan would be a fantastic signing for any club in Scotland. It's silly to suggest he's not good enough for Hibs. The boy has talent and can open up defences with his ability
This.Would have ran riot cutting in from left mid on Thursday,McGeouch needs to be central with McGinn pronto.
Finn2015
16-07-2016, 08:30 AM
Scott Allan would be a fantastic signing for any club in Scotland. It's silly to suggest he's not good enough for Hibs. The boy has talent and can open up defences with his ability
I'd have him back even if only for a season long loan
Booked4Being-Ugly
16-07-2016, 08:49 AM
We've got winners now, so I wouldn't want that scroate Allan anywhere near Hibs.
Smartie
16-07-2016, 09:23 AM
Keep Allan away from here, bad influence and a lot of players will not accept him back after what happened before, plus he's had almost zero football in a year and we have just as good here and potentially better in Henderson if and when he comes back.
If Lennon decided to bring Allan back, the players would just have to accept him.
If he started doing the business on the park, the players would change their minds soon enough.
We can't have our players picking and choosing who plays for us.
Ozyhibby
16-07-2016, 09:30 AM
Scott Allan got 20 assists in the season he was here. Last season we did not score enough. Of course we should welcome him back if the opportunity arose.
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My_Wife_Camille
16-07-2016, 09:35 AM
Scott Allan is up there with one of the most exciting players I've seen at Hibs. Yes you have to take into account the division we were in at the time and the opposition we faced but that's still exactly where we are now.
That first season in the Championship there were weeks where just knowing I was going to see a player of Scott's quality was enough to get me along to the game. Would love to have him back.
AlbertK86
16-07-2016, 09:44 AM
Scott Allan is up there with one of the most exciting players I've seen at Hibs. Yes you have to take into account the division we were in at the time and the opposition we faced but that's still exactly where we are now. That first season in the Championship there were weeks where just knowing I was going to see a player of Scott's quality was enough to get me along to the game. Would love to have him back.
Agree
However I'm just checking that this is all speculation based on who Rogers MAY let go
hibee92
16-07-2016, 10:01 AM
Wouldn't want Scott Allan back. Prefer we went for Henderson
mentalhibee
16-07-2016, 10:06 AM
Wouldn't want Scott Allan back. Prefer we went for Henderson
Rodgers was saying in the papers last week that he liked Allan and that he wouldn't be going anywhere, said needs to improve his positional sense but has all the attributes he wants in a midfielder. Would much prefer to we brought Henderson back in anyway!
southsider
16-07-2016, 10:11 AM
Wouldn't want Scott Allan back. Prefer we went for Henderson
And Kris Connons
BH Hibs
16-07-2016, 11:01 AM
Would love to see Henderson back and would also take Commons or Allan but where would we play all these centre midfielders as the diamond formation looks to be binned. I think we still need pace and width rather than another 2 central players.
snooky
16-07-2016, 11:09 AM
We've got winners now, so I wouldn't want that scroate Allan anywhere near Hibs.
I'd take him even if it's just so that TRFC, HoM or any other club doesn't get him.
You can't have too much quality.
Greenworld
16-07-2016, 11:12 AM
Would take Henderson we no what we get...need another striker ...a left back and right back cover
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CallumHibs07
16-07-2016, 11:13 AM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.
adhibs
16-07-2016, 11:15 AM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.
dont know why anyone would welcome him back after he nearly derailed the season, regardless of how talented he is.
Dalianwanda
16-07-2016, 11:21 AM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.
:top marks Why should we give him another chance? We gave him a platform & as soon as there was interest he was off. We have a group of players that seemingly love the team & get what we are about..Put their bodies on the line & try their damnedest for themselves & the team. Why potentially derail all that bringing in SA? Good player undoubtedly but he had has chance with us & shat on us at the first opportunity.
livi hibs 1875
16-07-2016, 11:23 AM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.I don't want him back, but he is a great player , did Allan demand a hun transfer
hibees 7062
16-07-2016, 11:36 AM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.
So did Thomson
Green Fish
16-07-2016, 11:36 AM
I don't think the players would have a problem with SA coming back, they would understand what wages he would likely be on at hibs and potential earnings he could make elsewhere.
However, I believe that the general consensus of opinion amongst us fans is that he was two faced and disrespectful. I for one wouldn't want him back.
AS seemed to maintain a good relationship with SA throughout, wouldn't be surprised if he approached tic for him
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lumbo_hfc
16-07-2016, 11:46 AM
If we were getting a player from Celtic on loan, I would much prefer it was Mackay-Steven or McGregor. Too many centre midfielders. Need a bit pace out wide
Onceinawhile
16-07-2016, 11:55 AM
If we were getting a player from Celtic on loan, I would much prefer it was Mackay-Steven or McGregor. Too many centre midfielders. Need a bit pace out wide
Paul hanlon finished the game on Thursday in central midfield.
We do not have too many central midfielders.
jax67
16-07-2016, 12:10 PM
Scott Allan is up there with one of the most exciting players I've seen at Hibs. Yes you have to take into account the division we were in at the time and the opposition we faced but that's still exactly where we are now.
That first season in the Championship there were weeks where just knowing I was going to see a player of Scott's quality was enough to get me along to the game. Would love to have him back.
This!!👍
SHODAN
16-07-2016, 12:17 PM
Allan won't be back. For all his antics though, he'd be an excellent signing. An ******** but our best midfielder since Brown.
Smartie
16-07-2016, 12:17 PM
Paul hanlon finished the game on Thursday in central midfield.
We do not have too many central midfielders.
Fyvie would be the first choice to play that deep midfield role, Bartley second then probably Dylan third. Fyvie was injured, Dylan had already gone off and Bartley's race was run. Paul Hanlon can play there, he's played there in the past and he's done well. As a fourth choice it was perfectly sensible to play him there. We've got excellent cover at the back in Forster and Fontaine so whilst I think Hanlon is a better centre-half than them, we wouldn't be hugely weakened by putting him in midfield. By all accounts Crane has been impressive in pre-season - maybe we could shuffle Lewis Stevenson in to play defensive mid and have Crane at left-back? Seemingly Danny Handling can play well as a defensive midfielder as well.
How many defensive midfielders do we need? I don't think we need to return to the Fenlon days when we had our pick of about 50 defensive midfielders but when Cairney and Harris got injured no wide players whatsoever.
We must get the goalkeeper situation sorted. After that, I'd want a left footed winger.
We don't have a bottomless pit of cash and we need to use what we have wisely. Remember, this season it is imperative that we go up. Having options to break down packed defences will be what makes or breaks our season and will be the difference between next season and the last 2, not what we do if we are without our 5 first-choice defensive midfielders.
lumbo_hfc
16-07-2016, 12:22 PM
Paul hanlon finished the game on Thursday in central midfield.
We do not have too many central midfielders.
And is more than capable of doing so, considering he always played centre midfield in his youth. If you add McGinn, McGeouch, Fyvie, Bartley and Stanton to that and potentially Scott Martin breaking into the first team then I think that is more than enough centre midfielders. I think Lennon realises that to get out this league, you need to play with width and pace, hence why he is giving the likes of Boyle and Harris the chance to prove it themselves before inevitably bringing in real wide men I.e GMS or CMcG...
SeanWilson
16-07-2016, 12:30 PM
And is more than capable of doing so, considering he always played centre midfield in his youth. If you add McGinn, McGeouch, Fyvie, Bartley and Stanton to that and potentially Scott Martin breaking into the first team then I think that is more than enough centre midfielders. I think Lennon realises that to get out this league, you need to play with width and pace, hence why he is giving the likes of Boyle and Harris the chance to prove it themselves before inevitably bringing in real wide men I.e GMS or CMcG...
we have no chance of getting either IMO
lumbo_hfc
16-07-2016, 12:38 PM
we have no chance of getting either IMO
Depends whether they are gonna be in Rodgers plans for this season. He seems to like Christie, Patrick Roberts will definitely play aswell, which put them down the pecking order. They have a massive squad so i don't see why getting one of them on loan for a season is out the question! Nobody thought we would have got stokes in but it happened.
AlbertK86
16-07-2016, 01:12 PM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.
Massive Rangers fan wanting to sign for boyhood heroes...... Yep I was gutted but if it had been me and Hibs wanted me I would have done the same
Billychaotic182
16-07-2016, 01:21 PM
Don't know where this Hanlon as a midfielder myth came from. He was a striker as a youth player.
southern hibby
16-07-2016, 01:25 PM
Massive Rangers fan wanting to sign for boyhood heroes...... Yep I was gutted but if it had been me and Hibs wanted me I would have done the same
Tin hat firmly on here..... Did he actually say he wanted to go to Der Hun? my recollection of events was he asked for a transfer and never mentioned them at all. What I remember was The Daily Ranger and The Rangers both saying he wanted to go to them even though he was not quoted as saying so. Remember he signed for Celtic if he was that desperate to play for school boy hero's he wouldn't have signed for Celtic.
Though I do agree he probably hoped he'd get a transfer to them.
GGTTH
AlbertK86
16-07-2016, 01:34 PM
Tin hat firmly on here..... Did he actually say he wanted to go to Der Hun? my recollection of events was he asked for a transfer and never mentioned them at all. What I remember was The Daily Ranger and The Rangers both saying he wanted to go to them even though he was not quoted as saying so. Remember he signed for Celtic if he was that desperate to play for school boy hero's he wouldn't have signed for Celtic. Though I do agree he probably hoped he'd get a transfer to them. GGTTH
Nah he never came out and said it which was sensible on his part but was clearly what he was after
lumbo_hfc
16-07-2016, 01:42 PM
Don't know where this Hanlon as a midfielder myth came from. He was a striker as a youth player.
He was a midfielder at Hutchie
Unseen work
16-07-2016, 01:44 PM
Paul hanlon is 26, made is professional debut at 17/18.
I don't know what goes through some people's minds but before the hibs first team he was playing in defence hence getting a chance there.
So what he might of played elsewhere at about 15 years old? That is alot different to playing that position almost 10 years later against professionals especially when you've not played it for that length of time.
Smartie
16-07-2016, 01:46 PM
Tin hat firmly on here..... Did he actually say he wanted to go to Der Hun? my recollection of events was he asked for a transfer and never mentioned them at all. What I remember was The Daily Ranger and The Rangers both saying he wanted to go to them even though he was not quoted as saying so. Remember he signed for Celtic if he was that desperate to play for school boy hero's he wouldn't have signed for Celtic.
Though I do agree he probably hoped he'd get a transfer to them.
GGTTH
Did he not also say that he'd have stayed if we'd gone up?
He's too good a player to be playing in the Championship. He's too good a player to be festering on Celtic's bench.
eastmainsmsh
16-07-2016, 01:54 PM
Gary Harkins worth a one yr deal
Smartie
16-07-2016, 02:11 PM
Gary Harkins worth a one yr deal
Is he out of contract/ available?
Excellent player, I'd love to have him at Hibs.
bigwheel
16-07-2016, 02:24 PM
Is he out of contract/ available?
Excellent player, I'd love to have him at Hibs.
who would you drop for him ? Not someone that fits with the work ethic in our team ...
southern hibby
16-07-2016, 02:35 PM
Nah he never came out and said it which was sensible on his part but was clearly what he was after
I too thought that's what he was aiming for, however when he signed for Celtic I also thought that maybe it was money he was after and not a move to The Rangers.
GGTTH
HibeeDaz6270
16-07-2016, 02:42 PM
Don't know where this Hanlon as a midfielder myth came from. He was a striker as a youth player.
I played with him at Hutchison Vale and he was a centre mid. No idea after that though
lumbo_hfc
16-07-2016, 02:57 PM
Paul hanlon is 26, made is professional debut at 17/18.
I don't know what goes through some people's minds but before the hibs first team he was playing in defence hence getting a chance there.
So what he might of played elsewhere at about 15 years old? That is alot different to playing that position almost 10 years later against professionals especially when you've not played it for that length of time.
My original point was that he has all the attributes to play defensive midfield, even if centre back is his best position.
snooky
16-07-2016, 03:23 PM
What happened to Gunnarsson? I thought he was a good player for us (and forever one of the 'Hampden Heroes'). He had the flexiblity to play anywhere in defence. I know he's gone back home but just wondered why we haven't followed up on signing him permanently.
McIntosh
16-07-2016, 04:32 PM
The inactivity is a bit concerning. We clearly need a solid keeper, and width and a holding forward. At least four players in my opinion.
Hermit Crab
16-07-2016, 04:36 PM
The inactivity is a bit concerning. We clearly need a solid keeper, and width and a holding forward. At least four players in my opinion.
Boyle, Harris, Carmicheal and Holt as a holding forward no?
R'Albin
16-07-2016, 04:38 PM
Boyle, Harris, Carmicheal and Holt as a holding forward no?
The first three haven't really shown that they can consistently perform for us and Holt isn't likely to be able to play every week. We definitely need other options out wide and another similar striker to Holt.
Mr White
16-07-2016, 04:39 PM
The inactivity is a bit concerning. We clearly need a solid keeper, and width and a holding forward. At least four players in my opinion.
It's the usual early window catch 22. Hold out for first choice signings or rush into second choice picks to get the squad settled early?
I'd like an experienced keeper in asap but I feel the squad is strong enough that we can afford to hold out for quality in the other positions for a while yet.
Bostonhibby
16-07-2016, 04:40 PM
Have people forgotten that Allan demanded a transfer to the Huns? **** him.
Yep. He should continue to develop on the celtc bench until he can create a fuss around contract expiry time and walk to his beloved the rangers reincarnation, that or try and hack it down south again, maybe Rotherham this time
jacomo
16-07-2016, 04:53 PM
I too thought that's what he was aiming for, however when he signed for Celtic I also thought that maybe it was money he was after and not a move to The Rangers.
GGTTH
Allan didn't move to the Rangers because we didn't give him that option.
There might not have been a huge difference in terms of wages.
Radium
16-07-2016, 05:21 PM
Vaulks leaving Falkirk? Would be a hammer blow massive player and only McGinn and McGeough better centre midfielders in Championship imo.
From Tam McManus on Twitter ... going to Rotherham apparently
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Billy Whizz
16-07-2016, 05:24 PM
Vaulks leaving Falkirk? Would be a hammer blow massive player and only McGinn and McGeough better centre midfielders in Championship imo.
From Tam McManus on Twitter ... going to Rotherham apparently
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Thought Hears were after him? Stubbs was always an admirer of Vaulks as the Hibs manager
Deek01
16-07-2016, 05:25 PM
[QUOTE=Radium;4762905]Vaulks leaving Falkirk? Would be a hammer blow massive player and only McGinn and McGeough better centre midfielders in Championship imo.
From Tam McManus on Twitter ... going to Rotherham apparently
Rumours that it's Stubbs taking him to Rotherham
Heisenberg
16-07-2016, 05:28 PM
Stubbsy. What a guy. Weakening Falkirk big time
jacomo
16-07-2016, 06:03 PM
I too thought that's what he was aiming for, however when he signed for Celtic I also thought that maybe it was money he was after and not a move to The Rangers.
GGTTH
Allan didn't move to the Rangers because we didn't give him that option.
There might not have been a huge difference in terms of wages.
tamig
16-07-2016, 06:47 PM
Boyle, Harris, Carmicheal and Holt as a holding forward no?
Can someone please explain what a "holding forward" is please? Not a term I've heard before. I've heard of a holding midfielder, someone who "plays in the hole" or a forward who holds the ball up. Is it the latter one that this term relates to?
Smartie
16-07-2016, 06:57 PM
who would you drop for him ? Not someone that fits with the work ethic in our team ...
He's something a bit different though.
Good composure and final ball - something we've lacked at times.
I think he'd be useful for helping unlock packed defences, even if he didn't throw himself around tackling folk.
I've always liked him as a player.
eastmainsmsh
16-07-2016, 07:03 PM
Is he out of contract/ available?
Excellent player, I'd love to have him at Hibs.
Free to go at Dundee puts a shift in good on the ball and scores goals good backup
NikGunnarsson
16-07-2016, 07:07 PM
What happened to Gunnarsson? I thought he was a good player for us (and forever one of the 'Hampden Heroes'). He had the flexiblity to play anywhere in defence. I know he's gone back home but just wondered why we haven't followed up on signing him permanently.
Interesting that Gunnarsson was offered a 3-year deal (not sure which manager) but rejected it as he wants to try and be first team for Valerenga under Ronny Deila, personally think we should try to convince him great player all round.
So did Thomson
That was because he fell out with Collins and not because he wanted to leave, big difference.
Interesting that Gunnarsson was offered a 3-year deal (not sure which manager) but rejected it as he wants to try and be first team for Valerenga under Ronny Deila, personally think we should try to convince him great player all round.
Valerenga are a similar standard to us, be 1st choice or back up, you choose.
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2016, 07:18 PM
Free to go at Dundee puts a shift in good on the ball and scores goals good backup
I disagree, if he did put a shift in he'd not be playing in the SPL.He does have a goal in him, and is good on the ball but defending or tracking his man is definitely his weak points in my opinion.
blackpoolhibs
16-07-2016, 07:21 PM
That was because he fell out with Collins and not because he wanted to leave, big difference.
He would have fell out with Alex Ferguson unless he could give him a huge pay rise and rescue his mother from the 27 jobs she did.
He would have fell out with Alex Ferguson unless he could give him a huge pay rise and rescue his mother from the 27 jobs she did.
Haha very good G, :greengrin
Collins didn't exactly enamour himself with a few of the players when he was here, he and KT didn't exactly see eye to eye, they sold him in January for the good of squad harmony.
hibees 7062
16-07-2016, 07:58 PM
That was because he fell out with Collins and not because he wanted to leave, big difference.
Really ? The money had nowt to do with it eh
Dunbar Hibee
16-07-2016, 08:38 PM
Interesting that Gunnarsson was offered a 3-year deal (not sure which manager) but rejected it as he wants to try and be first team for Valerenga under Ronny Deila, personally think we should try to convince him great player all round.
Where you getting this info from?
Finn2015
16-07-2016, 09:43 PM
Stubbsy. What a guy. Weakening Falkirk big time
👍 Good work agent Stubbs
Ronniekirk
16-07-2016, 09:45 PM
I'm hearing Hendo to the league cup winners.
Would be wrong move for him but Rodgers may want him on loan to team in S P L
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GreenLake
16-07-2016, 10:56 PM
I'm hearing Hendo to the league cup winners.
He's good enough to play for Man City, but maybe not this season.
Really ? The money had nowt to do with it eh
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/kevin-thomson-i-ve-never-lost-my-love-for-hibs-1-1702268
Good wee read here, about half way down he talks about what happened with Collins.
blackpoolhibs
17-07-2016, 12:20 AM
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/kevin-thomson-i-ve-never-lost-my-love-for-hibs-1-1702268
Good wee read here, about half way down he talks about what happened with Collins.
Thats just lie after lie after lie, how come Brown stayed and he never? Thomson wanted more money, he wanted out of Hibs and his mother fewer jobs.
He got his wish.
HoboHarry
17-07-2016, 02:40 AM
Would be wrong move for him but Rodgers may want him on loan to team in S P L
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Just curious as to why going to a top division team would be a wrong move for him? I'd prefer to came to us obviously.......
SouthMoroccoStu
17-07-2016, 04:46 AM
I'm hearing Hendo to the league cup winners.
Ross County?
God help him, they wouldn't know how to use a player like him
vercol36
17-07-2016, 05:49 AM
I'm hearing Hendo to the league cup winners.
I'm completely split on Hendo. One part of me wants to see him come back to Hibs, in the spirit of loyalty to a club he has learnt to love. The other part of me thinks that, if we are ever to see a Scottish player become a star in the foreseeable future, then folk like Hendo need to be going to clubs where they can be properly nurtured (and I don't think an EPL club would be a step too far for him). But County? Daaamn.
Thats just lie after lie after lie, how come Brown stayed and he never? Thomson wanted more money, he wanted out of Hibs and his mother fewer jobs.
He got his wish.
Brown didn't hate Collins as much as KT but still disliked him enough to move in he summer.
That's the same story I got from KT himself a few years back and I had no reason to doubt him, he and Collins despised each other that simple, Rangers were the only club to come up with £2m in the January window.
Cat Stanton
17-07-2016, 07:43 AM
I'm completely split on Hendo. One part of me wants to see him come back to Hibs, in the spirit of loyalty to a club he has learnt to love. The other part of me thinks that, if we are ever to see a Scottish player become a star in the foreseeable future, then folk like Hendo need to be going to clubs where they can be properly nurtured (and I don't think an EPL club would be a step too far for him). But County? Daaamn.
On a different thread, two of our 'ITK' posters seem pretty sure he's coming back to Hibs:
http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?313294-Hendo
Ronniekirk
17-07-2016, 08:16 AM
Just curious as to why going to a top division team would be a wrong move for him? I'd prefer to came to us obviously.......
Don't think they are the team that would develop him as a player any better than us but will see what happens if thats where he ends up
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Allant1981
17-07-2016, 08:39 AM
Michael mcgovern interesting norwich according to the bbc, amazing what a couple of good performances in a competition will do
Ozyhibby
17-07-2016, 09:54 AM
Brown didn't hate Collins as much as KT but still disliked him enough to move in he summer.
That's the same story I got from KT himself a few years back and I had no reason to doubt him, he and Collins despised each other that simple, Rangers were the only club to come up with £2m in the January window.
And whenever KT doesn't like a Hibs manager all hell breaks loose, no matter the consequences for the club.
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SeanWilson
17-07-2016, 09:59 AM
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/kevin-thomson-i-ve-never-lost-my-love-for-hibs-1-1702268
Good wee read here, about half way down he talks about what happened with Collins.
thats just a poor me story.
I do agree with him though, as a husband and father of three children - someone says i'll 10* your weekly wage son.... where do i sign? The zombies or not.
And whenever KT doesn't like a Hibs manager all hell breaks loose, no matter the consequences for the club.
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Just a wee bit OTT :confused:
Collins was a well publicised fall out and we all know what happened with Butcher, that one you cannot blame KT for but I'm sure you'll try to twist it to show Butcher and Malpas bullied players all because they didn't get along with KT.
As far as I know Thomson hasn't left any other club due to personal issues but lets not let facts get in the way of a good old KT bashing eh?
He would have fell out with Alex Ferguson unless he could give him a huge pay rise and rescue his mother from the 27 jobs she did.
You don't half talk some nonsense Blackpool
easty
17-07-2016, 10:10 AM
Brown didn't hate Collins as much as KT but still disliked him enough to move in he summer.
That's the same story I got from KT himself a few years back and I had no reason to doubt him, he and Collins despised each other that simple, Rangers were the only club to come up with £2m in the January window.
They both moved for money, and career progression. To make out like they left because they weren't keen on the manager is nonsense.
blackpoolhibs
17-07-2016, 10:11 AM
You don't half talk some nonsense Blackpool
In my defence i have been doing that all my life, and when i posted it last night i was a bit pissed.
I'm sober now though and stand by every word.:aok:
blackpoolhibs
17-07-2016, 10:20 AM
They both moved for money, and career progression. To make out like they left because they weren't keen on the manager is nonsense.
Exactly, would he have stayed and played his entire career if he was best pals with Collins?
Players dont get on with managers all the time, but if they manufacture their exit the way he did, dont come back and lie about what happened and try and change it to make you look better.
I'd respect him more if he just said he was an idiot and was wrong the way he did it.
Mr White
17-07-2016, 10:29 AM
Exactly, would he have stayed and played his entire career if he was best pals with Collins?
Players dont get on with managers all the time, but if they manufacture their exit the way he did, dont come back and lie about what happened and try and change it to make you look better.
I'd respect him more if he just said he was an idiot and was wrong the way he did it.
Tbf to KT he has said he regrets the way things happened in 06/07. Don't ask me for a link, just take my word for it :greengrin
Ozyhibby
17-07-2016, 10:31 AM
Just a wee bit OTT :confused:
Collins was a well publicised fall out and we all know what happened with Butcher, that one you cannot blame KT for but I'm sure you'll try to twist it to show Butcher and Malpas bullied players all because they didn't get along with KT.
As far as I know Thomson hasn't left any other club due to personal issues but lets not let facts get in the way of a good old KT bashing eh?
99% the buck stops with Butcher but the other 1% rests with senior players. Over the months the feuding was happening, it would have been great if at some point the players had just backed down and got on with to get us through the season. Instead they were still having stand up rows at training the week of the play offs. KT and McPake share most responsibility for this.
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blackpoolhibs
17-07-2016, 10:58 AM
Tbf to KT he has said he regrets the way things happened in 06/07. Don't ask me for a link, just take my word for it :greengrin
:agree: I have read something over the years about how he regrets the way things happened, what he regrets though are anyones guess?
I have yet to hear him say he was wrong in the way he manufactured his exit, because thats what he did.
We all know players will never stay as long as we'd like them, well the good ones. :greengrin But we had a side that were breathtaking at times, and he was an integral part of it.
All we wanted was that team to get through the season, remember we were in both cups and doing reasonably well in the league.
The way he caused trouble by disrupting things, his piece in the record and subsequent quotes about walking over broken glass were not words any Hibs fan would or should say.
He is a Hibs fan, and he would know by saying what he said he would get a reaction from the fans.
He would know the hatred we have of the now deceased club, but that did not bother him.
We are not daft, we've all done daft things. Sometimes you just need to hold your hands up and say you were wrong.
They both moved for money, and career progression. To make out like they left because they weren't keen on the manager is nonsense.
I think you'll find the majority of players look for transfers to increase their money, Thomson said as much and the reason why he and Brown changed agents was to make sure their next move was for their own good. What he didn't expect was the ill feeling between him and Collins, that rushed his transfer through just a wee bit quicker, the fact he came back to play for nothing showed his love for the club.
snooky
17-07-2016, 11:04 AM
Tbf to KT he has said he regrets the way things happened in 06/07. Don't ask me for a link, just take my word for it :greengrin
Be nice if he'd come out and put the record straight.
(Sorry, that was an unintentional pun - honest).
99% the buck stops with Butcher but the other 1% rests with senior players. Over the months the feuding was happening, it would have been great if at some point the players had just backed down and got on with to get us through the season. Instead they were still having stand up rows at training the week of the play offs. KT and McPake share most responsibility for this.
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I think you'll find that the senior players were sticking up for the younger ones by standing up to Butcher, his tactics and his bullying, what they got for doing that was either training with the kids, sitting on the bench or in McPake's case not being chosen at all when he was fully fit and Butcher lying on tv telling everyone he was still not fit to be selected.
Unseen work
17-07-2016, 11:09 AM
This is the worst transfer rumours thread iv seen.
Be nice if he'd come out and put that on record.
(Sorry, that was an unintentional pun - honest).
It’s no secret that Thomson, then Hibs captain at the age of 21, and manager John Collins didn’t see eye-to-eye, the relationship deteriorating as the midfielder and his best friend Scott Brown, along with their agent Willie McKay, began making noises agitating for a move.
But while remorseful and apologetic about some aspects of the affair and the way it was handled, Thomson has no regrets at his move to Rangers. He said: “I was 21 and felt I was as good as anyone in the country. I had the opportunity to move to Rangers, which was financially very rewarding, a great opportunity in my opinion to play for a team that was potentially going to win the league rather than a team that was potentially going to finish third or fourth.
“It was a no-brainer, but did I say things that I shouldn’t have? Of course I did. The whole thing got blown out of proportion, people were saying things they should not have and I have had to live with that, coming back to the club I loved and getting booed, the whole stadium singing ‘Kevin Thomson is gay’ and I was spat on, which was the lowest point for me. I loved playing for the club, my dad Alan was as proud as anyone sitting watching me every Saturday because he was a massive Hibs fan. But I am not naive, being a Hibs fan does not mean you can play for Hibs all your life. Did I say the wrong things? Yeah, I probably did.”
Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news-2-7535/football-2-8125/hibs/hibs-kevin-thomson-chasing-scottish-cup-win-1-2852560#ixzz4EfBXM6me
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This is the worst transfer rumours thread iv seen.
We're all bored because nothing is happening right now, almost every thread is going off in tangents.
Borderhibbie76
17-07-2016, 11:12 AM
This is the worst transfer rumours thread iv seen.
This 100% why the f### are we discussing events of years ago on a transfer rumours thread ....boring 😴😴
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Ultrabee1-0
17-07-2016, 11:20 AM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
tamig
17-07-2016, 11:26 AM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
Lol.
Mr White
17-07-2016, 11:27 AM
:agree: I have read something over the years about how he regrets the way things happened, what he regrets though are anyones guess?
I have yet to hear him say he was wrong in the way he manufactured his exit, because thats what he did.
We all know players will never stay as long as we'd like them, well the good ones. :greengrin But we had a side that were breathtaking at times, and he was an integral part of it.
All we wanted was that team to get through the season, remember we were in both cups and doing reasonably well in the league.
The way he caused trouble by disrupting things, his piece in the record and subsequent quotes about walking over broken glass were not words any Hibs fan would or should say.
He is a Hibs fan, and he would know by saying what he said he would get a reaction from the fans.
He would know the hatred we have of the now deceased club, but that did not bother him.
We are not daft, we've all done daft things. Sometimes you just need to hold your hands up and say you were wrong.
I'm not sure what else he can do tbh. He behaved badly 10 years ago. The club did well financially from his transfer. He came back and said he regretted the way he left and played for free. Then returned a third time and played a part in us winning the scottish cup. No hard feelings from me as in the grand scheme of players who have treated the club badly KT is in credit overall I'd say. And I'm no big fan of his btw, but I do recognise contrition when I see it though.
It surely would have been a lot easier for him to have gone elsewhere and been paid in 2013 than come back to Hibs, play for free and face the music from the less forgiving section of the support. That says more to me than any full and frank confession and admission would have.
Brightside
17-07-2016, 11:28 AM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
Hahahahahahahaha.
NORTHERNHIBBY
17-07-2016, 11:30 AM
Guess when there are no rumours to discuss this is the kind of thread you end up with?
SaulGoodman
17-07-2016, 11:31 AM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
I don't know if that last sentence is aimed at Lennon or its how you sign off emails.
Tobias Funke
17-07-2016, 11:57 AM
I don't know if that last sentence is aimed at Lennon or its how you sign off emails.
:rotflmao:
I don't know if that last sentence is aimed at Lennon or its how you sign off emails.
Are you suggesting his user name in reality is Twat? :greengrin
Ultrabee1-0
17-07-2016, 12:07 PM
I don't know if that last sentence is aimed at Lennon or its how you sign off emails.
Aimed at lennon, he better get the finger oot
Eyrie
17-07-2016, 12:26 PM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
Laidlaw, Hanlon and Cummings as well.
Signed,
Not a twat.
keep the faith
17-07-2016, 12:28 PM
I'm not sure what else he can do tbh. He behaved badly 10 years ago. The club did well financially from his transfer. He came back and said he regretted the way he left and played for free. Then returned a third time and played a part in us winning the scottish cup. No hard feelings from me as in the grand scheme of players who have treated the club badly KT is in credit overall I'd say. And I'm no big fan of his btw, but I do recognise contrition when I see it though.
It surely would have been a lot easier for him to have gone elsewhere and been paid in 2013 than come back to Hibs, play for free and face the music from the less forgiving section of the support. That says more to me than any full and frank confession and admission would have.
Exactly. Some posters on here can't seem to grow up or let go about the whole thing.
keep the faith
17-07-2016, 12:29 PM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
Yes, you do seem to be.
K-Zazu
17-07-2016, 12:32 PM
Laidlaw, Hanlon and Cummings as well.
Signed,
Not a twat.
Forster too
Ultrabee1-0
17-07-2016, 12:43 PM
Laidlaw, Hanlon and Cummings as well.
Signed,
Not a twat.
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
CapitalGreen
17-07-2016, 12:49 PM
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
I'll get to watch the Scottish cup winners every week, of course I'm excited.
Ultrabee1-0
17-07-2016, 12:54 PM
I'll get to watch the Scottish cup winners every week, of course I'm excited.
That wont last for long if we are 3rd or 2nd in January yous will all **** off back to your caves.I'm just saying nothing bar the league is acceptable, and we have got no-one of real quality in the door
Ozyhibby
17-07-2016, 12:55 PM
It has to be said that its been a dull window so far and we are currently weaker than last season.
20 days till we play Falkirk. Time to get the finger out Hibs.
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Heisenberg
17-07-2016, 12:55 PM
That wont last for long if we are 3rd or 2nd in January yous will all **** off back to your caves.I'm just saying nothing bar the league is acceptable, and we have got no-one of real quality in the door
Think there's only one poster here who needs to **** off back to their cave...
Allant1981
17-07-2016, 12:55 PM
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
Is henderson a pensioner?
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France. Twat.
O dear!!
Aimed at lennon, he better get the finger oot
Hanlon, Cummings and now Holt.
Would suggest none of our rivals have signed players of that quality??
That wont last for long if we are 3rd or 2nd in January yous will all **** off back to your caves.I'm just saying nothing bar the league is acceptable, and we have got no-one of real quality in the door
You got it right at the start of the third sentence and I would suggest it's pretty apt and isn't far from where you will be off very shortly!
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
I'm gonnae just say it
LTYF
Platinum Scotty
17-07-2016, 01:25 PM
I'm gonnae just say it
LTYF
Have to agree
Frogga
17-07-2016, 01:58 PM
A few wingers and Henderson and I'd feel happy with the team.
On the basis of Thursday I'm feeling confident and believe that Lennon will get more out of this team than Stubbs (Cup Final excluded :wink:).
Scouse Hibee
17-07-2016, 02:06 PM
Grant Holt who's 35, only signing what is lennon upto? Spent to long out in France.
Twat.
Does your Mum/Sister know you're on the net?
Eyrie
17-07-2016, 02:21 PM
Forster too
Good catch.
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
Holt, Hanlon and Forster could very easily have gone elsewhere, and if Cummings hadn't signed then I expected him to be sold.
If you look at our current squad and compare it to the rest of Scottish football, you'd be looking forward to this season as well. We only need a goalkeeper, winger and another big forward to complete the squad, and we're also expecting Henderson (hardly a pensioner) to return.
H18 SFR
17-07-2016, 02:27 PM
Anyone heard anything about Gary Harkins signing up, I heard there just now that we are interested - source, an Ayr Utd academy coach.
Slim Shady
17-07-2016, 02:34 PM
If Harris comes back and Improves on last season (15 assists for QoS) and can find his confidence again then we could have our winger.
Borderhibbie76
17-07-2016, 03:17 PM
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
Oh u think so do u?? U reckon players the calibre of Hanlon and Cummings would consign themselves to a 3rd championship season for any manager?? I think not
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Scorrie
17-07-2016, 03:29 PM
If Harris comes back and Improves on last season (15 assists for QoS) and can find his confidence again then we could have our winger.
Was just about to post along these lines. If Lennon can get Harris, Handling and Stanton playing at the top of their games and improving them then that's in effect three signings.
Ozyhibby
17-07-2016, 03:34 PM
Was just about to post along these lines. If Lennon can get Harris, Handling and Stanton playing at the top of their games and improving them then that's in effect three signings.
That would be one helluva gamble for him to take.
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That would be one helluva gamble for him to take.
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I don't see how, he sees them in training, he knows their skills and if he feels he can nurture them into better players I'm all for that. We have 3 young lads who showed great talent a couple of years back and with injuries/mis management at the time their progress has been hindered.
In the right environment and with the correct coaching these 3 should develop into top players for the club, it's now up to them to grasp the opportunity being given to them.
neil7908
17-07-2016, 03:40 PM
Was just about to post along these lines. If Lennon can get Harris, Handling and Stanton playing at the top of their games and improving them then that's in effect three signings.
If he can then great but I'm sorry, we can't rely on these 3. We need more depth in the squad and anything they can produce should be seen as a bonus.
Michael
17-07-2016, 04:25 PM
Was just about to post along these lines. If Lennon can get Harris, Handling and Stanton playing at the top of their games and improving them then that's in effect three signings.
They've had plenty of opportunity and have failed to produce. If they can't get into a championship side then they're simply not good enough.
B.H.F.C
17-07-2016, 04:43 PM
I don't see how, he sees them in training, he knows their skills and if he feels he can nurture them into better players I'm all for that. We have 3 young lads who showed great talent a couple of years back and with injuries/mis management at the time their progress has been hindered.
In the right environment and with the correct coaching these 3 should develop into top players for the club, it's now up to them to grasp the opportunity being given to them.
They can only develop with games, and there is nothing to suggest they will get that, particularly Stanton and Handling IMO.
Harris might stand half a chance as he plays in a position where we don't have many options. But as far as the other two are concerned they just aren't going to get many chances ahead of the players we already have.
KeithTheHibby
17-07-2016, 04:53 PM
That wont last for long if we are 3rd or 2nd in January yous will all **** off back to your caves.I'm just saying nothing bar the league is acceptable, and we have got no-one of real quality in the door
You are funny.
blackpoolhibs
17-07-2016, 05:05 PM
You are funny.
I think you put a u where an a was needed.
I think you put a u where an a was needed.
Very guid G....
jgl07
17-07-2016, 05:17 PM
In my defence i have been doing that all my life, and when i posted it last night i was a bit pissed.
I'm sober now though and stand by every word.:aok:
I thought it was one of your best postings for a while.
Ozyhibby
17-07-2016, 05:24 PM
They can only develop with games, and there is nothing to suggest they will get that, particularly Stanton and Handling IMO.
Harris might stand half a chance as he plays in a position where we don't have many options. But as far as the other two are concerned they just aren't going to get many chances ahead of the players we already have.
Exactly. They were available for free to anybody who wanted them last season and not a single prem team wanted them. Why would they be good enough for Hibs?
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MWHIBBIES
17-07-2016, 05:43 PM
People seem to want signings for the sake of signings. McGinn, Henderson, McGeouch, and McGregor all joined late on last season. A bit of patience required.
Finn2015
17-07-2016, 05:49 PM
People seem to want signings for the sake of signings. McGinn, Henderson, McGeouch, and McGregor all joined late on last season. A bit of patience required.
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Jdawg
17-07-2016, 06:44 PM
People seem to want signings for the sake of signings. McGinn, Henderson, McGeouch, and McGregor all joined late on last season. A bit of patience required.
Great post, stubbs has built a very decent squad, we only need to add to the quality we already have. Those type of players will be harder to come by and patience is required.
SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
17-07-2016, 07:09 PM
If Harris comes back and Improves on last season (15 assists for QoS) and can find his confidence again then we could have our winger.
I didnt realisr he was that good for them.
I havey doubts about him, but fingers crossed.
Eyrie
17-07-2016, 07:29 PM
If he can then great but I'm sorry, we can't rely on these 3. We need more depth in the squad and anything they can produce should be seen as a bonus.
I'd be worried if we were relying on Harris, Stanton and Handling, but they're not even going to be regular starters let alone key players. All three provide depth for the squad at a relatively low cost.
I've pretty much given up on any of them making it with Hibs but have no problem with Lennon using them in that way.
BH Hibs
17-07-2016, 07:36 PM
Player's that would have signed regardless, are you excited? All we have been linked with is ex celtic pensioners.
So show us your medals and sing us your songs
jacomo
17-07-2016, 11:22 PM
I'd be worried if we were relying on Harris, Stanton and Handling, but they're not even going to be regular starters let alone key players. All three provide depth for the squad at a relatively low cost.
I've pretty much given up on any of them making it with Hibs but have no problem with Lennon using them in that way.
2 of them had decent seasons at this level.
Handling had a run in Stubbs' first season which got that league campaign going.
Don't know if any of them will make it at hibs but they shouldn't be dismissed as 'never good enough'.
Steve20
18-07-2016, 07:09 AM
People seem to want signings for the sake of signings. McGinn, Henderson, McGeouch, and McGregor all joined late on last season. A bit of patience required.
We have also been six points behind the leaders in the past two seasons by not having a team ready for kick off.
Get players in before the first game and not play catch up for once. To not have a first choice keeper with under three weeks to go is concerning. The rest of the team should be OK to win the league.
Another midfielder and striker to give us better options would be ideal.
We have also been six points behind the leaders in the past two seasons by not having a team ready for kick off. Get players in before the first game and not play catch up for once. To not have a first choice keeper with under three weeks to go is concerning. The rest of the team should be OK to win the league. Another midfielder and striker to give us better options would be ideal.
I agree with what your are saying but I would suggest that any of our starting 11 along with a few others would walk into other Championship team whilst very few would walk into our starting 11.
Keeper aside our starting 11 is and should be strong enough to win this league!
MacGruber
18-07-2016, 07:36 AM
I agree with what your are saying but I would suggest that any of our starting 11 along with a few others would walk into other Championship team whilst very few would walk into our starting 11.
Keeper aside our starting 11 is and should be strong enough to win this league!
It should be but then again a stronger hibs squad last season finished behind Falkirk (albeit amount of other games took its toll)
Patience required but it's a little concerning is all
GGTTH
Hibby Kay-Yay
18-07-2016, 07:36 AM
The odds should be in our favour but Leicester changed everything for a lot of teams mindsets.
For me, a Keeper (unless Palmer is the answer) a winger and another striker and we're good to go :agree:
It should be but then again a stronger hibs squad last season finished behind Falkirk (albeit amount of other games took its toll) Patience required but it's a little concerning is all GGTTH
Indeed.
Lennon will know what is required so as you have said patience is needed!
It should be but then again a stronger hibs squad last season finished behind Falkirk (albeit amount of other games took its toll)
Patience required but it's a little concerning is all
GGTTH
Finishing behind Falkirk was down to Stubbs, we had the players to change things on the park but he persisted with his diamond and played the same players till they were ready to drop, especially McGinn who looked goosed in the last 10-12 games. Players like Boyle and Carmichael were fit but never got a chance.
MacGruber
18-07-2016, 07:47 AM
Indeed.
Lennon will know what is required so as you have said patience is needed!
I know, you're right.
I'm just an impatient bugger!
GGTTH
500miles
18-07-2016, 07:56 AM
Team selection was often restricted by injuries during periods of fixture congestion last season. In fact, take away March and maintain out points average throughout that period, and we would've been breathing down the Rangers neck.
Rangers also took advantage of their financial superiority by unsettling our team and signing our targets (for example, Holt was training with us, and leading the club on). Quite frankly, we done well to recover at the start of the season.
We'll take our A list trophy, they can have their C list promotion that they bought for tend of millions.
nellio
18-07-2016, 10:41 AM
Finishing behind Falkirk was down to Stubbs, we had the players to change things on the park but he persisted with his diamond and played the same players till they were ready to drop, especially McGinn who looked goosed in the last 10-12 games. Players like Boyle and Carmichael were fit but never got a chance.
Spot on, exactly how I saw it.
MWHIBBIES
18-07-2016, 10:45 AM
Finishing behind Falkirk was down to Stubbs, we had the players to change things on the park but he persisted with his diamond and played the same players till they were ready to drop, especially McGinn who looked goosed in the last 10-12 games. Players like Boyle and Carmichael were fit but never got a chance.Boyle played 33 games last season. Carmichael got injured again after Alloa so he wasn't fit.
eastmainsmsh
18-07-2016, 11:36 AM
Think Lennon will wait till Jan window
Winston Ingram
18-07-2016, 11:51 AM
Boyle played 33 games last season. Carmichael got injured again after Alloa so he wasn't fit.
Boyle did play 33 games but 19 were as sub and the vast majority of those were after the 80th minute.
Hermit Crab
18-07-2016, 11:53 AM
Think Lennon will wait till Jan window
Based on what? He's already said he will strengthen the squad this window.
NikGunnarsson
18-07-2016, 12:11 PM
Spot on, exactly how I saw it.
Same way I feel,if he went 352 in LC Final and played Boyle,Keatings and Gunnarsson we would have won that aswell
Smartie
18-07-2016, 12:15 PM
Finishing behind Falkirk was down to Stubbs, we had the players to change things on the park but he persisted with his diamond and played the same players till they were ready to drop, especially McGinn who looked goosed in the last 10-12 games. Players like Boyle and Carmichael were fit but never got a chance.
Yep, me too.
Overall, Stubbs was excellent for us and I'm immensely grateful for the work he did for us.
But I do think he was too stubborn when it came to his favourite formation and had too much loyalty to certain players who were either dead on their feet or out of form. I'll forever be mystified that he didn't use Boyle more during the second half of the season and it was a bit of a mystery that he allowed so many players to go out on loan.
Farid has also made noises that he thought he was fit to play more often than Stubbs did.
snooky
18-07-2016, 12:16 PM
Think Lennon will wait till Jan window
Too late, IMO.
Billychaotic182
18-07-2016, 12:21 PM
So what's the script with Henderson, Commons, Pawlett and Palmer then?
hibs0666
18-07-2016, 12:24 PM
So what's the script with Henderson, Commons, Pawlett and Palmer then?
It complicated.
jacomo
18-07-2016, 12:40 PM
Same way I feel,if he went 352 in LC Final and played Boyle,Keatings and Gunnarsson we would have won that aswell
If Fyvie had been fit we would have won it IMO.
Franck Stanton
18-07-2016, 12:47 PM
So, there's no rumours then ? :dunno:
snooky
18-07-2016, 12:48 PM
So what's the script with Henderson, Commons, Pawlett and Palmer then?
'Arial' by default I think :wink:
Billychaotic182
18-07-2016, 01:26 PM
'Arial' by default I think :wink:
Hahahahaha
SHODAN
18-07-2016, 05:03 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36829648
Hamilton sign Donati. Blast from the past.
Ardenttwo
18-07-2016, 05:24 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36829648
Hamilton sign Donati. Blast from the past.
Dundee Utd sign a Dutch striker.
Scott Allan Key
18-07-2016, 05:34 PM
dundee utd sign a dutch striker.
wzf?
churchie16
18-07-2016, 05:45 PM
Dunfermline sign higginbottom on a year deal! And willo flood to Dundee Utd on a year! Sir David gray and super John mcginn should be worried 😂😂 👎
keep the faith
18-07-2016, 05:51 PM
Dunfermline sign higginbottom on a year deal! And willo flood to Dundee Utd on a year! Sir David gray and super John mcginn should be worried 😂😂 👎
Exactly why we need to keep the head and not sign players for the sake of it. We have the best side in the league absolutely brimming with the confidence a Scottish cup gives you. If we don't sign anyone this window it's fine but if we do let's wait and get players who will make us even better.
KTF
churchie16
18-07-2016, 05:54 PM
Exactly why we need to keep the head and not sign players for the sake of it. We have the best side in the league absolutely brimming with the confidence a Scottish cup gives you. If we don't sign anyone this window it's fine but if we do let's wait and get players who will make us even better.
KTF
Exactly best squad in championship and most of spl keep these guys together strengthen correctly and get out of this league where's teams see guys like flood and higginbottom as major signings!
Finishing behind Falkirk was down to Stubbs, we had the players to change things on the park but he persisted with his diamond and played the same players till they were ready to drop, especially McGinn who looked goosed in the last 10-12 games. Players like Boyle and Carmichael were fit but never got a chance.
Carmichael got his chance against Alloa, played well & scored. Unfortunately he was injured after that so wasn't fit. As for being goosed, the players looked fit & well on 21 May & the diamond, or 3-5-2 worked pretty well!! It's easy to apportion blame, if JC hadn't missed from a yard we would have finished above Falkirk. If Conrad hadn't dived over a ball we could have been in play-off final & if Liam hadn't committed a howler we could have won the LC as well. They're all in the past & none of us can say in hindsight what may or may not have happened. I do know however that we won the Cup on 21/5 & therefore that makes AS the most successful manager we've had in my 60+ years of supporting our club.
Carmichael got his chance against Alloa, played well & scored. Unfortunately he was injured after that so wasn't fit. As for being goosed, the players looked fit & well on 21 May & the diamond, or 3-5-2 worked pretty well!! It's easy to apportion blame, if JC hadn't missed from a yard we would have finished above Falkirk. If Conrad hadn't dived over a ball we could have been in play-off final & if Liam hadn't committed a howler we could have won the LC as well. They're all in the past & none of us can say in hindsight what may or may not have happened. I do know however that we won the Cup on 21/5 & therefore that makes AS the most successful manager we've had in my 60+ years of supporting our club.
All very true, just me wanting my cake and eating it, I still feel a few mistakes were made in the league and League cup final and the diamond worked against Rangers as it always seemed to work when teams came out and played open football against us but as you say all in the past and onwards we go.
Betty Boop
19-07-2016, 12:52 PM
Tony Watt signing for Hertz on loan.
seanoheimhin
19-07-2016, 12:57 PM
Not wanting to sound snide here, but if the Henderson deal is just a matter of time as some have suggested - then why is it not carried by any outlets, and what's the actual hold up?
Surely, it would benefit everyone for it to be completed sooner rather than later.
jgl07
19-07-2016, 01:18 PM
Not wanting to sound snide here, but if the Henderson deal is just a matter of time as some have suggested - then why is it not carried by any outlets, and what's the actual hold up?
Surely, it would benefit everyone for it to be completed sooner rather than later.
I suspect that no-one is going anywhere from Celtic until their injury crisis is over and they get through (or not) the CL qualification matches.
Rodgers will need time to go through the fringe players in the squad and make some signings. The window does not close for some time yet.
The_Horde
19-07-2016, 01:22 PM
Tony Watt signing for Hertz on loan.
Would've hoped we could get him! Good signing.
snooky
19-07-2016, 01:25 PM
Would've hoped we could get him! Good signing.
Let's all just sit back and enjoy the parade :angelic:
Geo_1875
19-07-2016, 01:49 PM
Would've hoped we could get him! Good signing.
Who's loaning him to hertz? I thought he'd be pushing for a start at Juve or Bayern or whoever prised him away from Celtc by now.
pacoluna
19-07-2016, 02:03 PM
Norwich sign Michael McGovern
hfcnic
19-07-2016, 02:13 PM
Not wanting to sound snide here, but if the Henderson deal is just a matter of time as some have suggested - then why is it not carried by any outlets, and what's the actual hold up?
Surely, it would benefit everyone for it to be completed sooner rather than later.
I though this would have been sewn up by now, but heard more than once its a done deal. Never know what/who to believe. I will just wait on an announcement from the club.
SteveHFC
19-07-2016, 03:44 PM
Tony watt to sign for hearts on loan
Franck Stanton
19-07-2016, 04:23 PM
Norwich sign Michael McGovern
Keek, That'll be that then. Heard from a mate, [usually has good info about Hibs] that Lennon had in-depth talks with McGovern re signing for us and he said he would be interested but was going on holiday and wanted to keep his options open and see what interest there was after the Euros. Ah well, time to move on, hopefully Lennon has another keeper in mind.
Tony watt to sign for hearts on loan
Murmer that Zeefuik back to them on a free as well
Watt-Zeefuik
bingo70
19-07-2016, 05:37 PM
Murmer that Zeefuik back to them on a free as well
Watt-Zeefuik
Probably wouldn't be the worst signing in the world for us to provide competition for Holt.
I wasn't a big fan of his but you couldn't argue with his scoring record and he'd certainly provide the presence that'd be missing if holt wasn't playing.
West lower
19-07-2016, 06:21 PM
Tony Watt signing for Hertz on loan.
Surely not. The Hearts fans at my work have been telling me since the 21st May that loan signings are an admittance that your own youth system is flawed. They have bleated on about it to anyone who would listen, although to be fair most just laughed. Apparently this one is ok though.
Ryan69
19-07-2016, 06:51 PM
Probably wouldn't be the worst signing in the world for us to provide competition for Holt.
I wasn't a big fan of his but you couldn't argue with his scoring record and he'd certainly provide the presence that'd be missing if holt wasn't playing.
He's not coming to us
bingo70
19-07-2016, 06:53 PM
He's not coming to us
I know, was just bored and an observation that he's the sort of signing that might not be too bad for us.
Craig_HFC
20-07-2016, 07:38 AM
Scott McDonald could be leaving Motherwell 2 weeks after renewing his contract... he's in talks with a team in Australia apparently.
After seeing him in the friendly at ER; I'm so glad we didn't sign him. Overweight wee rat.
GloryGlory
20-07-2016, 07:49 AM
Scott McDonald could be leaving Motherwell 2 weeks after renewing his contract... he's in talks with a team in Australia apparently.
After seeing him in the friendly at ER; I'm so glad we didn't sign him. Overweight wee rat.
Motherwell would still hold his registration, presumably, so he would need their permission to move on (unless he had a clause in his contract that he could go home if an Australian team came in for him).
Anyway, seems we dodged a bullet, as he had agreed a contract with us then ratted on it to re-sign for Motherwell. Now he's ratting on Motherwell, too.
AlbertK86
20-07-2016, 08:01 AM
Thought he was that fond of Motherwell that's why he wanted to stay 😂
mjhibby
20-07-2016, 08:06 AM
Scott McDonald could be leaving Motherwell 2 weeks after renewing his contract... he's in talks with a team in Australia apparently.
After seeing him in the friendly at ER; I'm so glad we didn't sign him. Overweight wee rat.
I think we can now safely say he was telling porkies about hibs offer. We definitely cut a break with him. Strange behaviour from a so called professional player.
Booked4Being-Ugly
20-07-2016, 08:16 AM
I think we can now safely say he was telling porkies about hibs offer. We definitely cut a break with him. Strange behaviour from a so called professional player.As well as a previous friend of Lennon's!
Anyway, the Hibs defence had him in their back pocket and he looked well past it on that showing in the friendly.
I think we can now safely say he was telling porkies about hibs offer. We definitely cut a break with him. Strange behaviour from a so called professional player.Motherwell looked poor against us, I think he can see a relegation struggle happening and he's not up for it.
Finn2015
20-07-2016, 08:57 AM
Thought he was that fond of Motherwell that's why he wanted to stay 😂
Vindicates lennons version of events really
Stubbsy trying to keep in the good books..
Hearts head coach Robbie Neilson is interested in making a move for former Celtic striker Tony Watt. The Jambos are ready to bring the Charlton frontman back to Scotland on a one-year loan deal. (The National)
Discussions between Watt and Hearts have not yet reached an advanced stage, with Alan Stubbs interested in taking the 22-year-old to Rotherham United. (The Herald)
Tha Cabbage Kid
20-07-2016, 01:32 PM
Mark Schwarzer anyone?
Tha Cabbage Kid
20-07-2016, 01:53 PM
heard Scott McDonald (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3699374/Motherwell-striker-Scott-McDonald-set-quit-Fir-Park-two-weeks-committing-future-amid-talks-return-Australia.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490) has decided to leave Motherwell. wonder why he decided he wants to go after stating he refused hibs to stay at his beloved Well???
HoboHarry
20-07-2016, 01:59 PM
I also think we dodged a bullet, but I find it difficult to be critical of him. He has been a long way from home for a long time and now has the opportunity to return. Nothing wrong with wanting that.
Ell_Chrisso
20-07-2016, 02:05 PM
Mark Schwarzer anyone?
Take him in an absolute heartbeat
Mikeystewart
20-07-2016, 02:46 PM
Not heard anything on here re Brad Guzan.
To be released by Aston Villa but linked to Middlesbrough.
No chance of first team football at Boro now they've signed Victor Valdes.
Would be guaranteed 1st team football at Hibs but would be a very long shot even if we had the budget.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/19/aston-villa-to-give-brad-guzan-a-free-transfer-to-speed-up-middl/
sleeping giant
20-07-2016, 03:16 PM
Mark Schwarzer anyone?
Same age as me :-)
You can't beat experience .
How old was budgie when we signed him ?
bingo70
20-07-2016, 03:24 PM
Mark Schwarzer anyone?
This a rumour you've heard or a suggestion?
Stevie Reid
20-07-2016, 03:30 PM
Same age as me :-)
You can't beat experience .
How old was budgie when we signed him ?
He was 39 and turned 40 in the December of that year.
ancient hibee
20-07-2016, 03:35 PM
Same age as me :-)
You can't beat experience .
How old was budgie when we signed him ?
You usually can if you roll the ball into the corner.
sleeping giant
20-07-2016, 03:47 PM
Not championing him by the way.
It's horses for courses this year though.
Anyone that gets released will be linked on here.
HoboHarry
20-07-2016, 04:02 PM
Not championing him by the way.
It's horses for courses this year though.
Anyone that gets released will be linked on here.
If that's true, can you put out the rumour that Hobo Harry is a free agent and looking for a club. I've played in front of an 80,000 crowd if anyone asks my credentials........
Hamish
20-07-2016, 04:38 PM
Stubbsy trying to keep in the good books..
Hearts head coach Robbie Neilson is interested in making a move for former Celtic striker Tony Watt. The Jambos are ready to bring the Charlton frontman back to Scotland on a one-year loan deal. (The National)
Discussions between Watt and Hearts have not yet reached an advanced stage, with Alan Stubbs interested in taking the 22-year-old to Rotherham United. (The Herald)
He's signed on loan at Tynie. Strikes me Levein's influence is showing again, going for the 1980's Hearts model, a big striker Sammon and a wee forward Watt mirroring Clark and Colquhoun.
Having said that what I have seen of Watt he will be decent for them.
Bostonhibby
20-07-2016, 04:47 PM
He's signed on loan at Tynie. Strikes me Levein's influence is showing again, going for the 1980's Hearts model, a big striker Sammon and a wee forward Watt mirroring Clark and Colquhoun.
Having said that what I have seen of Watt he will be decent for them.
You could be right, wonder who he will go for as the Craig Levein figure, crucial presence in that key league title winning match at Dens Park.
mowgli
20-07-2016, 05:05 PM
He's signed on loan at Tynie. Strikes me Levein's influence is showing again, going for the 1980's Hearts model, a big striker Sammon and a wee forward Watt mirroring Clark and Colquhoun.
Having said that what I have seen of Watt he will be decent for them.
Watt is 6ft.
ShadesLongThrow
20-07-2016, 05:32 PM
Watt is 6ft.
A highish wall?
A set of triplets?
Two yards?
Tha Cabbage Kid
20-07-2016, 05:32 PM
This a rumour you've heard or a suggestion?
Nah just a suggestion. See he was a free as well as berbatov;)
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Hamish
20-07-2016, 05:34 PM
Watt is 6ft.
Ok, nippy then.😊
Bostonhibby
20-07-2016, 05:37 PM
Watt is 6ft.
Didn't think the current yam style has much room for anyone under six feet.
ancient hibee
20-07-2016, 05:43 PM
Ok, nippy then.
Try again-he runs like he's wearing wellies.
HIBERNIAN-0762
20-07-2016, 05:51 PM
Who cares who they sign? they are crap and they know it, finishing 3rd in arguably the worst SPFL in recent times.
**** them!
Hamish
20-07-2016, 05:59 PM
Try again-he runs like he's wearing wellies.
Ok, pants then.😊
SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
20-07-2016, 07:02 PM
He's signed on loan at Tynie. Strikes me Levein's influence is showing again, going for the 1980's Hearts model, a big striker Sammon and a wee forward Watt mirroring Clark and Colquhoun.
Having said that what I have seen of Watt he will be decent for them.
If stubbs really was in for him and he's been pied again, thats him and stokes hes lost out on.
Who wouls have thought the glamour of rotheram utd could be so resistable
renato
20-07-2016, 07:42 PM
Watt is 6ft.
Aye but that's still wee by Potter / Hearts standards
:greengrin
Greenworld
20-07-2016, 08:12 PM
So no news again ...of any Hibs news transfer wise...I've heard a hotel will be built at the corner of famous 5 stand and bars will be moved to east stand
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StevieCowan
20-07-2016, 08:17 PM
So no news again ...of any Hibs news transfer wise...I've heard a hotel will be built at the corner of famous 5 stand and bars will be moved to east stand
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That's actually got a lot of substance to it, the architect drawings were completed a few weeks ago.
Greenworld
20-07-2016, 08:18 PM
That's actually got a lot of substance to it, the architect drawings were completed a few weeks ago.
That's true I saw them
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Wheat Hound
20-07-2016, 08:59 PM
So, no Henderson in the squad for Celtc tonight.....
Ronniekirk
20-07-2016, 10:24 PM
So, no Henderson in the squad for Celtc tonight.....
No but that was no teal surprise He will be going out on Loan when the timing suits Rodgers
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Stevie Reid
21-07-2016, 09:03 AM
McDonald staying at Motherwell: -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36854205
McDonald staying at Motherwell: -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36854205
I believe Scott called David Cameron for advice on how best to further one's career!! He's truly screwed up, shame!
Ozyhibby
21-07-2016, 09:59 AM
So no news again ...of any Hibs news transfer wise...I've heard a hotel will be built at the corner of famous 5 stand and bars will be moved to east stand
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When the East was build, there was a plan for this but I assumed it was shelved. It makes sense. Could be a great earner for the club.
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Greenworld
21-07-2016, 11:34 AM
When the East was build, there was a plan for this but I assumed it was shelved. It makes sense. Could be a great earner for the club.
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Looks like it but it's top secret so shhhh
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Ozyhibby
21-07-2016, 12:15 PM
Looks like it but it's top secret so shhhh
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Ah, I see. [emoji23]
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