Hibs & scottish football transfer rumours

[mcfly]

Some great chat and opinions on here but any news on some signings???

[IWasThere2016]

Some great chat and opinions on here but any news on some signings???

Notice in the club shop windae says "Signings Tomorrow" :wink: :greengrin

[ancient hibee]

Yes but the post I replied to specified Keith Wright and Darren Jackson. At this stage JC is inferior to neither.

He is however not even on the same planet as Joe Baker was.


Total diversion but could I appeal to all reading this to nominate Joe for the Scottish Football Hall of Fame.It's an outrage he's not in it.I've nominated him three years in a row(twice on visits to Hampden).When you see some of the people in it-T.Butcher for instance it makes me wild.

[greenpaper55]

Total diversion but could I appeal to all reading this to nominate Joe for the Scottish Football Hall of Fame.It's an outrage he's not in it.I've nominated him three years in a row(twice on visits to Hampden).When you see some of the people in it-T.Butcher for instance it makes me wild.

Well said, lets all nominate Joe and get his name in.

[Hanny]

Total diversion but could I appeal to all reading this to nominate Joe for the Scottish Football Hall of Fame.It's an outrage he's not in it.I've nominated him three years in a row(twice on visits to Hampden).When you see some of the people in it-T.Butcher for instance it makes me wild.


Well said, lets all nominate Joe and get his name in.

http://scottishfootballhalloffame.co.uk/nominations/

Nominations are open for 2016 :aok:

[Smartie]

Well said, lets all nominate Joe and get his name in.

Is he REALLY more deserving than David Gray though?

[ancient hibee]

Is he REALLY more deserving than David Gray though?

We could consider that when Gray does it again next May.

[hibbybrian]

Is he REALLY more deserving than David Gray though?

Really?

[superfurryhibby]

Thread diversion. Joe Baker deserves inclusion in the hall of fame, I just nominated him:aok:

[brog]

I was at the 4-3 game Baker9 refers to, it got quite scary. We were 4-0 up at half time and they came back in the 2nd half to 4-3. Some months before Joeh died I gave him a lift to the waveley after a game, it was just a thrill to listen to him. When he got out my mate who was in the back came round to get in the front, before he got in he gave Joe's seat a wee kiss. I have been privileged to have seen some great Hibs players in my time and Joe was up their with the best.

I agree your sentiments entirely but we were not 4-0 up at PBS, in fact I think Yams scored 1st. From memory we went 4-2 up & Yams pulled one back near the end but we hung on. Here's the stat for you, Yams conceded 11 league goals at Tynie all season, they won the league by 10 points. 17 year old Joe scored 4 at Tynie in 90 minutes!! Unreal! Comparisons between Joe & Jason are rldiculous though, other than they both have the same gallus nature. Jason is a fine talent but still learning his trade. Joe was a genius.

[hibeeron]

I've also just voted for Joe, didn't realise he was not already in hall of fame
Met him a couple of times in Hibs Club - great stories and he was born in Liverpool where I live

[Big L]

I agree your sentiments entirely but we were not 4-0 up at PBS, in fact I think Yams scored 1st. From memory we went 4-2 up & Yams pulled one back near the end but we hung on. Here's the stat for you, Yams conceded 11 league goals at Tynie all season, they won the league by 10 points. 17 year old Joe scored 4 at Tynie in 90 minutes!! Unreal! Comparisons between Joe & Jason are rldiculous though, other than they both have the same gallus nature. Jason is a fine talent but still learning his trade. Joe was a genius.

Totally agree re the comparison between JC & JB and I apologise for getting the half time scores wrong!

[hhibs]

http://scottishfootballhalloffame.co.uk/nominations/

Nominations are open for 2016 :aok:


That is done,could not believe he was not already in there............bloody shameful !

Please ,all Hibs fans. this man was an immense footballer and a hugely nice guy,get nominating !

[Gmack7]

Thread diversion. Joe Baker deserves inclusion in the hall of fame, I just nominated him:aok:

Also voted

[cloudy]

Oxley off to a London club. Should be completed this weekend. Hope this is the correct thread

[Allant1981]

Oxley off to a London club. Should be completed this weekend. Hope this is the correct thread

Thought he was off to southend

[stantonhibby]

Thought he was off to southend

Near London

[Allant1981]

Near London

Its about 40 miles away!!

[brog]

Totally agree re the comparison between JC & JB and I apologise for getting the half time scores wrong!

Sorry for being a sad statto but we share our love & admiration for Joe! Great player, great man!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Someone posted earlier in the thread about the ex Dun Utd and Celtic keeper Zaluska. Do any of the ITK posters know if there's anything in this? Played under Lennon at Celtic and looking for a club....

[bingo70]

Not a Hibs signing but noticed John Rankin is signing for Falkirk, could be a good signing for them IMO

Apologies if old news

[Michael]

Not a Hibs signing but noticed John Rankin is signing for Falkirk, could be a good signing for them IMO

Apologies if old news

What's the deal with Rankin anyway?

He was the invisible man for us and then he was at United for years. I never really heard him mentioned much during his time at United and yet he was in the team every week. Was he any good for them or did they just not notice he was there all those years?

[Finn2015]

Still slightly concerning nothing seems in the offing. Think we still need a forward and to bolster the midfield

[J-C]

Still slightly concerning nothing seems in the offing. Think we still need a forward and to bolster the midfield


Have some patience, it's only 7 days into the window ffs.

[B.H.F.C]

Young keeper on trial from West Brom.

[Big L]

Sorry for being a sad statto but we share our love & admiration for Joe! Great player, great man!

He told us the story about the Barca game when he got of the train at the west end and ran all the way to ER. He got in to the dressing room 15 mins before KO and they beat them 3-2. Their are not many teams that took 7 of Barca over 2 legs.He left us to join Roma I think, then went to Torino where he played up front with Dennis Law. What a front two!

[Big L]

Still slightly concerning nothing seems in the offing. Think we still need a forward and to bolster the midfield

Whatever is happening they are keeping it quiet! Obviously learned from the McDonald carry on.

[Unseen work]

Alex Palmer is the young goalie from West Brom

Only 19 so it's a weird one, will he want an inexperienced goalie battling it out with laidllaw?

[bingo70]

Alex Palmer is the young goalie from West Brom

Only 19 so it's a weird one, will he want an inexperienced goalie battling it out with laidllaw?

I know it's unusual for keepers to play until they're a bit older but I've got no problem with it. I'd rather go for someone that could potentially be brilliant the someone that's only ever been average. Someone said that to be eligible for the Europa league they have to be signed by today though, if he's just starting a trial that suggests we'll be going with Virtannen against Brondby.

Think hearts keeper this season is still under 21 isn't he?

Also worth noting that the young keeper turns 20 in a few weeks which doesn't sound quite as bad as playing a 19 year old.

[Matty_Jack04]

I know it's unusual for keepers to play until they're a bit older but I've got no problem with it. I'd rather go for someone that could potentially be brilliant the someone that's only ever been average. Someone said that to be eligible for the Europa league they have to be signed by today though, if he's just starting a trial that suggests we'll be going with Virtannen against Brondby.

Think hearts keeper this season is still under 21 isn't he?

Also worth noting that the young keeper turns 20 in a few weeks which doesn't sound quite as bad as playing a 19 year old.

Virtannen playing against brondby according to capital city press article, I'm happy with that this guy seemed to be getting overlooked with the possibility of NL bringing in 2 goal keepers you'd have to think virtannens time was up here without really given an opportunity.

[Ronniekirk]

I know it's unusual for keepers to play until they're a bit older but I've got no problem with it. I'd rather go for someone that could potentially be brilliant the someone that's only ever been average. Someone said that to be eligible for the Europa league they have to be signed by today though, if he's just starting a trial that suggests we'll be going with Virtannen against Brondby.

Think hearts keeper this season is still under 21 isn't he?

Also worth noting that the young keeper turns 20 in a few weeks which doesn't sound quite as bad as playing a 19 year old.

Lennon saying Palmer will play in goal on Sunday as part of his Trial He has confirmed Laid law is back up Keeper and that Otto will play against Brondby
Palmer hasn't played this year and only played on loan 11 times for Kidderminster
So if Laidlaw is back up Palmer is being looked at with a view to being No 1 keeper unless Otto has a stormer over two games against Brondby
However if Otto is to play v Bronby You would think he would start on Sunday Maybe keepers will get a half each
Interesting times but given its a key position in a season we need to get promotion in we need to ensure we get this right
Will wait and see but three inexperienced Keepers would be a risk and early mistakes would have the boo boys on his back Need a strong character with good concentration as well as ability



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[SJM]

A number one will be signed I'm sure of it. Lennon doesn't seem to be taking Europe all that seriously though.

[The_Horde]

Signed for Feyenoord.

[Wheat Hound]

Signed for Feyenoord.

Who has?

[Finn2015]

A number one will be signed I'm sure of it. Lennon doesn't seem to be taking Europe all that seriously though.

seems that way tbh. Hopeful they can get some signings in before the league kicks off

[Oscar T Grouch]

Lennon saying Palmer will play in goal on Sunday as part of his Trial He has confirmed Laid law is back up Keeper and that Otto will play against Brondby
Palmer hasn't played this year and only played on loan 11 times for Kidderminster
So if Laidlaw is back up Palmer is being looked at with a view to being No 1 keeper unless Otto has a stormer over two games against Brondby
However if Otto is to play v Bronby You would think he would start on Sunday Maybe keepers will get a half each
Interesting times but given its a key position in a season we need to get promotion in we need to ensure we get this right
Will wait and see but three inexperienced Keepers would be a risk and early mistakes would have the boo boys on his back Need a strong character with good concentration as well as ability



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Could Palmer not be for the developement squad? I don't think they have a keeper at the moment?

[The_Horde]

Who has?

Oxley..

Previous poster mentioned Brad Jones. Then deleted it. Making me look rather foolish.

[Ardenttwo]

Young keeper on trial from West Brom.
More goalies ???????

[Ronniekirk]

Could Palmer not be for the developement squad? I don't think they have a keeper at the moment?

Could be but why the rush to play him on Sunday when Otto needs as mutch game time as possible before Brondby game Cant think of other development team signings that have gone straight into first team


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[Oscar T Grouch]

Could be but why the rush to play him on Sunday when Otto needs as mutch game time as possible before Brondby game Cant think of other development team signings that have gone straight into first team


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If he's on trial seeing him in a game is a good way to see he skills and shortcomings? I don't know to be honest, but we need to get a developement goalie too.

[Wheat Hound]

Oxley..

Previous poster mentioned Brad Jones. Then deleted it. Making me look rather foolish.

Ah I see!

[NAE NOOKIE]

A number one will be signed I'm sure of it. Lennon doesn't seem to be taking Europe all that seriously though.

Though getting to the group stages of the Europa league would be a huge money spinner for us, the truth is that we have little to no chance of making it that far. In all honesty my take on the Brondby game is purely hoping that we don't get embarrassed .... I listened to the 2nd half of the Aberdeen game last night and they struggled like hell and were 'lucky' to make it past a team with 4 full time players and that was our 2nd placed club last year.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lennon is of the opinion that Europe is just too early in the season for us and of all the competitions we will play in this year his list of priorities is .... 1 the league ... 2 the league ... 3 the league .... 4 the league ......... with possibly a nod to defending the Scottish cup.

[MyJo]

I know it's unusual for keepers to play until they're a bit older but I've got no problem with it. I'd rather go for someone that could potentially be brilliant the someone that's only ever been average. Someone said that to be eligible for the Europa league they have to be signed by today though, if he's just starting a trial that suggests we'll be going with Virtannen against Brondby.

Think hearts keeper this season is still under 21 isn't he?

Also worth noting that the young keeper turns 20 in a few weeks which doesn't sound quite as bad as playing a 19 year old.

AC Milan's keeper for most of last season was 16.

[SJM]

Could be but why the rush to play him on Sunday when Otto needs as mutch game time as possible before Brondby game Cant think of other development team signings that have gone straight into first team


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It would be a bit weird signing a goalie on loan from west brom so he can get games to place in the development squad.

[SJM]

Though getting to the group stages of the Europa league would be a huge money spinner for us, the truth is that we have little to no chance of making it that far. In all honesty my take on the Brondby game is purely hoping that we don't get embarrassed .... I listened to the 2nd half of the Aberdeen game last night and they struggled like hell and were 'lucky' to make it past a team with 4 full time players and that was our 2nd placed club last year.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lennon is of the opinion that Europe is just too early in the season for us and of all the competitions we will play in this year his list of priorities is .... 1 the league ... 2 the league ... 3 the league .... 4 the league ......... with possibly a nod to defending the Scottish cup.

Yeah, you are probably right. As long as we don't get embarrassed I'm happy sacrificing it the more I think of it because the bee all an end all for Lennon, the team and the club as a whole is to go up this year.

[chinaman]

Signed for Feyenoord.

Oxley signed for feyenoord ????

[mim]

He told us the story about the Barca game when he got of the train at the west end and ran all the way to ER. He got in to the dressing room 15 mins before KO and they beat them 3-2. Their are not many teams that took 7 of Barca over 2 legs.He left us to join Roma I think, then went to Torino where he played up front with Dennis Law. What a front two!

Joe went from Hibs directly to Torino. He never played for Roma. He did play against them for Hibs, tho.

[The_Horde]

Oxley signed for feyenoord ????

He's good enough. But no. :wink:

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Hi all,

The bombardment of Keith Jackson continues unabated. I've got quite a few now tweeting him referencing his article suggesting all 11 The Rangers players were attacked. Please retweet my tweets and contact him directly.

He WILL apologise. I'll make sure of it.

@elblondiso

[southsider]

Joe went from Hibs directly to Torino. He never played for Roma. He did play against them for Hibs, tho.
Hibs got £65,000 for him. Back in 1961 that was a fortune, around £14 million in todays rates.

[J-C]

More goalies ???????


WE hardly have any.

Oxley is moving on, Virtanen and Laidlaw will be our 1st team goalies and Development team has none as Brennan was released at the end of last season.

[The Captain....]

Lennon on Sky Sports interview after game last night saying there are "no permanent signings on the horizon just yet".

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-football/10495509/hibs-look-for-new-goalkeeper

Would have preferred to have had our no1 keeper signed and settled in by now tbh but if it means we're looking at better quality I appreciate it may take more time.

Looks like more patience required and a few more Cummings debates!:greengrin

[Mathias Jack]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/hibernian/7209503/Neil-Lennon-offers-West-Brom-kid-Alex-Palmer-Hibs-trial.html

19 year old keeper on trial from West Brom, no offence to the lad but we need experience, not another back up keeper. A certainty Virtanen will start next Thursday...

[Unseen work]

I wonder if the lack of transfer rumours is down to

Hibs keeping tight lipped about things
Struggling to identify players in out budget
Doesn't think the squad needs strengthened much

Personally think it's the first one however it's boring with no gossip :greengrin

[Smartie]

I wonder if the lack of transfer rumours is down to

Hibs keeping tight lipped about things
Struggling to identify players in out budget
Doesn't think the squad needs strengthened much

Personally think it's the first one however it's boring with no gossip :greengrin

I think it might be a combination of the 2nd and 3rd. We have the bones of a cracking squad and it only needs tweaked.

Adding quality that will be an improvemwnt on what we already have will be a challenge on our budget. Stubbs pulled off a few miracles to get the players he acquired to come and play in this league.

[pacoluna]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/hibernian/7209503/Neil-Lennon-offers-West-Brom-kid-Alex-Palmer-Hibs-trial.html

19 year old keeper on trial from West Brom, no offence to the lad but we need experience, not another back up keeper. A certainty Virtanen will start next Thursday...
Notice he mentions " we lost Conrad " wonder if it was conrad's decision not to stay.

[southsider]

I think it might be a combination of the 2nd and 3rd. We have the bones of a cracking squad and it only needs tweaked.

Adding quality that will be an improvemwnt on what we already have will be a challenge on our budget. Stubbs pulled off a few miracles to get the players he acquired to come and play in this league.
Aye but now they are coming to play for THE SCOTTISH CUP CHAMPIONS !

[GreenPJ]

I wonder if the lack of transfer rumours is down to

Hibs keeping tight lipped about things
Struggling to identify players in out budget
Doesn't think the squad needs strengthened much

Personally think it's the first one however it's boring with no gossip :greengrin

Or are they worried about the level of fine/costs they might incur from the SC final and so looking for clarity on that before committing to significant player spend.

[MSK]

Or are they worried about the level of fine/costs they might incur from the SC final and so looking for clarity on that before committing to significant player spend.I wouldnt think so, hibs are trying to push through the 10,000 season ticket mark to fund Lennons transfer kitty, not to pay a fine.

[Waxy]

Rather we took our time and got quality rather than make three or four signings no better than what we have.

[greenginger]

Or are they worried about the level of fine/costs they might incur from the SC final and so looking for clarity on that before committing to significant player spend.


Paying SFA fines are optional !

Just ask The Rangers F C. We'll pay when they settle up. :greengrin

[hibbypostie]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/hibernian/7209503/Neil-Lennon-offers-West-Brom-kid-Alex-Palmer-Hibs-trial.html

19 year old keeper on trial from West Brom, no offence to the lad but we need experience, not another back up keeper. A certainty Virtanen will start next Thursday...


aye no way can you be good at 19:confused:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

aye no way can you be good at 19:confused:

Not that I would hold you back from making things up, but the quoted post is about lack of experience rather than ability ? That is a fair point to make?

[The_Horde]

Not that I would hold you back from making things up, but the quoted post is about lack of experience rather than ability ? That is a fair point to make?

Folk said the same about Oxley and look how that turned out..

Aw wait.

[SJM]

Rather we took our time and got quality rather than make three or four signings no better than what we have.


I've heard that yin before.

[Iain G]

I wouldnt think so, hibs are trying to push through the 10,000 season ticket mark to fund Lennons transfer kitty, not to pay a fine.

I thought she had left?! :greengrin

[Shrekko]

I've heard that yin before.

Turned out to be true though did it not?

[SJM]

Turned out to be true though did it not?

What under Fenlon and Yogi? It didnae really.

[Shrekko]

What under Fenlon and Yogi? It didnae really.

Only time I remember that being said (and subsequently ridiculed) was when Stubbs said it on arrival .. and then went on to get guys like Gray, Allan, Malonga, McGeouch etc etc despite a slow start in bringing guys in.

[GloryGlory]

Danny Rogers going back on loan to Falkirk. Another one to tick off the list.

[SJM]

Only time I remember that being said (and subsequently ridiculed) was when Stubbs said it on arrival .. and then went on to get guys like Gray, Allan, Malonga, McGeouch etc etc despite a slow start in bringing guys in.


http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/hibs-boss-pat-fenlon-relishing-challenge-of-restoring-easter-road-side-to-spl-s-top-six-1-2410604

[Shrekko]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/hibs-boss-pat-fenlon-relishing-challenge-of-restoring-easter-road-side-to-spl-s-top-six-1-2410604

Looks like David Hardie used the phrase and not Fenlon eh? ;-)

[SJM]

Looks like David Hardie used the phrase and not Fenlon eh? ;-)

Never looked TBH and it doesn't bother me that much I just commented we have heard it before under a few managers. It's Friday and I cannae be arsed searching as works busy also. Peace.

[Tobias Funke]

Never looked TBH and it doesn't bother me that much I just commented we have heard it before under a few managers. It's Friday and I cannae be arsed searching as works busy also. Peace.

You are cracking entertainment on here I must say. :tee hee:

[Nutmegged]

Danny Rogers going back on loan to Falkirk. Another one to tick off the list.

I really don't understand that one, while I accept he'll likely be more comfortable settling back into that environment you'd think the best keeper in the League last season would want to go to the biggest team in the League and vice versa, you'd imagine the biggest club in the Division would want the best keeper, all a bit strange.

[mcfly]

Great to see so many season ticket holders.

Just need a couple of good signings hopefully ASAP

[Greencore]

I really don't understand that one, while I accept he'll likely be more comfortable settling back into that environment you'd think the best keeper in the League last season would want to go to the biggest team in the League and vice versa, you'd imagine the biggest club in the Division would want the best keeper, all a bit strange.

Maybe they are offering him more money then us?

[SJM]

Maybe they are offering him more money then us?

They would be paying Aberdeen surely? Maybe Aberdeen see him progressing better there as he's probably going to be a busier 'keeper at Falkirk?

[Billy Whizz]

They would be paying Aberdeen surely? Maybe Aberdeen see him progressing better there as he's probably going to be a busier 'keeper at Falkirk?

Or we can't guarantee Aberdeen that he'll be 1st pick every week

[AlbertK86]

I really don't understand that one, while I accept he'll likely be more comfortable settling back into that environment you'd think the best keeper in the League last season would want to go to the biggest team in the League and vice versa, you'd imagine the biggest club in the Division would want the best keeper, all a bit strange.

Did we even make any concrete move to get him ?

[Brightside]

I really don't understand that one, while I accept he'll likely be more comfortable settling back into that environment you'd think the best keeper in the League last season would want to go to the biggest team in the League and vice versa, you'd imagine the biggest club in the Division would want the best keeper, all a bit strange.

Hibs made no attempt to sign him.

[AlbertK86]

Hibs made no attempt to sign him.

Yep I was sure you posted that previously - hence my post

Cheers my man

[The Captain....]

Hibs made no attempt to sign him.

Any mileage in the Zaluska rumours.. or is it just people linking him with us due to the managers past association.

Would be good to know we have at least identified and are persuing who we see as our no1 keeper - Lennon didn't sound too optimistic about getting anyone in soon in his post match interview with Sky last night.

[SJM]

Or we can't guarantee Aberdeen that he'll be 1st pick every week

Yet west brom would lend us their keeper in the same situation? Weird one like.

[tamig]

Lennon on Sky Sports interview after game last night saying there are "no permanent signings on the horizon just yet".

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-football/10495509/hibs-look-for-new-goalkeeper

Would have preferred to have had our no1 keeper signed and settled in by now tbh but if it means we're looking at better quality I appreciate it may take more time.

Looks like more patience required and a few more Cummings debates!:greengrin

Is the Cummings/Sow swap deal back on?

[hibbypostie]

Not that I would hold you back from making things up, but the quoted post is about lack of experience rather than ability ? That is a fair point to make?


so how do you get that experience by playing like it or not we are a championship club for the moment but we need to get real about who we will sign we need to find a few young players that will be around a while cant mind his name but a few eyebrows were raised when Real Madrid put a 17 or 18 yo in goals best way to get experience play games

[Billy Whizz]

Yet west brom would lend us their keeper in the same situation? Weird one like.

You really think he's coming to Hibs to be no 1, more like a player for the development team

[SJM]

You really think he's coming to Hibs to be no 1, more like a player for the development team

Why would he want to leave west broms development side to come to ours and why would they let him when it's a loan deal Lennon has confirmed?

[Big L]

Joe went from Hibs directly to Torino. He never played for Roma. He did play against them for Hibs, tho.

Just testing you, well done Ha Ha!!

[Big L]

Joe went from Hibs directly to Torino. He never played for Roma. He did play against them for Hibs, tho.

Just testing you, well done Ha Ha!! He signed for Hibs from Armadale with Johnny McLeod.

[hibbypostie]

Just testing you, well done Ha Ha!! He signed for Hibs from Armadale with Johnny McLeod.

had the pleasure of working with Johnny Mcleod a few years back he was a waiter in the royal overseas league on princes st great guy quiet but always talking footy shows just how over paid todays players are

[Billy Whizz]

Why would he want to leave west broms development side to come to ours and why would they let him when it's a loan deal Lennon has confirmed?

Myself and a few others would be concerned, if a 19 year old was going to be our goalie for the new season, are you not?

[SJM]

Myself and a few others would be concerned, if a 19 year old was going to be our goalie for the new season, are you not?

Of course I would be, which is why I find the whole situation bizarre. Verro in goals next week to begin with. He looked shaky as anything when he came on in Inverness never mind Brondby.

[hibbypostie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iker_Casillas

I'm not saying this guy will be as good as just as we aint Real
and he is probably just back so lets not get ahead of ourselves

[Big L]

Is the Cummings/Sow swap deal back on?

Sow has played 13 games for the Chinese team and scored once, so naw, nae deal!

[WoreTheGreen]

He is crap he couldnot kick himself of a dyke

[WoreTheGreen]

He is crap he couldnot kick himself of a dyke

Oops thought his name was snow

[Iggy Pope]

Why would he want to leave west broms development side to come to ours and why would they let him when it's a loan deal Lennon has confirmed?

I'm missing something. I read it was a trial. Lennon says he's come from West Brom, not that he's on loan. A trial wouldn't be a loan deal and would explain why the player might fancy a move to Hibs. Maybe he doesn't have a club?

[PatHead]

That is done,could not believe he was not already in there............bloody shameful !

Please ,all Hibs fans. this man was an immense footballer and a hugely nice guy,get nominating !

Done

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not all that worried about how old or how experienced a keeper is tbh.

If either Virtanen, Laidlaw or Palmer are an improvement on Logan and Oxley then they can do their school homework on the team bus for all I care. The whole old keepers are better is a bit of myth now anyway. Look at the top keepers in the world at the moment and the majority are in their early to mid 20s and have been playing 1st team football since their late teens. The same goes for the EPL were a lot of good goalkeepers are youngers guys either playing regularly or pushing for their chance.

[Mantis Toboggan]

Oops thought his name was snow

He knows nothing

[ian cruise]

I really don't understand that one, while I accept he'll likely be more comfortable settling back into that environment you'd think the best keeper in the League last season would want to go to the biggest team in the League and vice versa, you'd imagine the biggest club in the Division would want the best keeper, all a bit strange.

Aside from the fact it seems we were never in for him, maybe he enjoyed his time there last season so much that it's the only loan move he'd consider. Maybe he feels like he has unfinished business in this league with Falkirk. We're all hoping that is the case with Liam after all.

[SJM]

I'm missing something. I read it was a trial. Lennon says he's come from West Brom, not that he's on loan. A trial wouldn't be a loan deal and would explain why the player might fancy a move to Hibs. Maybe he doesn't have a club?

He's on trial to come in on loan. Lennon has said himself. That's why it's bizarre.

[eastmainsmsh]

Any mileage in the Zaluska rumours.. or is it just people linking him with us due to the managers past association.

Would be good to know we have at least identified and are persuing who we see as our no1 keeper - Lennon didn't sound too optimistic about getting anyone in soon in his post match interview with Sky last night.

I'm sure he is playing in the bundesliga

[Platinum Scotty]

I'm sure he is playing in the bundesliga

He is out of contract - joined that German team as 3rd choice keeper until 30th June 2016 seemingly

[Pretty Boy]

He is out of contract - joined that German team as 3rd choice keeper until 30th June 2016 seemingly

3rd choice is about his level.

I'd be disappointed if Zaluszka was deemed the answer to our goalkeeping problems. I'd rather have a youngster with potebtial who may make a few mistakes due to inexperience rather than an experienced keeper who will make a few mistakes just because he's not very good.

[BSEJVT]

Interesting part of the interview with Grant Stott and Leeann Dempster in so far as transfers are concerned.

The impression I got was that there wouldn't be the same number of players recruited as there were last year as there wasn't seen the need, but that we would be recruiting and we weren't afraid of paying fees for the right player.

She re-iterated that this wouldn't have been possible either in the past or going forward without HSL or direct share purchase by fans.

Can anyone tell me the ratio of HSL v direct fan purchases since this initiative launched.

Like many I will continue my HSL subscription even after the year is up and long term beyond when all the shares are secured, but the individual share purchases will by definition drop off at that point and I would be interested to know how much of the income that has been raised will drop off in time.

This will of course be offset by more folk signing up to HSL, but the bean counter in me is interested.

[Since90+2]

Oxley will be away by early next week at the latest.

[ancient hibee]

Oxley will be away by early next week at the latest.


Or late next week at the earliest?

[Ozyhibby]

Interesting part of the interview with Grant Stott and Leeann Dempster in so far as transfers are concerned.

The impression I got was that there wouldn't be the same number of players recruited as there were last year as there wasn't seen the need, but that we would be recruiting and we weren't afraid of paying fees for the right player.

She re-iterated that this wouldn't have been possible either in the past or going forward without HSL or direct share purchase by fans.

Can anyone tell me the ratio of HSL v direct fan purchases since this initiative launched.

Like many I will continue my HSL subscription even after the year is up and long term beyond when all the shares are secured, but the individual share purchases will by definition drop off at that point and I would be interested to know how much of the income that has been raised will drop off in time.

This will of course be offset by more folk signing up to HSL, but the bean counter in me is interested.

I seem to remember HSL give about £25-30k per month to the club. It probably covers the cost of two of our top earners.



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[Since90+2]

Or late next week at the earliest?

He has already agreed terms with his new club and has told the other players so will just be a case of when it's announced.

[Scottie]

Peter Pawlett may be allowed to join Hibs on loan from Aberdeen according to the Sun.

Great wee player but would give Tom Daly a run for his money. :greengrin

[theonlywayisup]

Peter Pawlett may be allowed to join Hibs on loan from Aberdeen according to the Sun.

Great wee player but would give Tom Daly a run for his money. :greengrin

I'm sure that Peter "my players never dive" Houston would have plenty to say about that.

[eastmainsmsh]

Peter Pawlett may be allowed to join Hibs on loan from Aberdeen according to the Sun.

Great wee player but would give Tom Daly a run for his money. :greengrin

For campness or Diving 😂

[Finn2015]

Peter Pawlett may be allowed to join Hibs on loan from Aberdeen according to the Sun.

Great wee player but would give Tom Daly a run for his money. :greengrin

I'd love that to happen, hope it comes true

[Marco G]

He's on trial to come in on loan. Lennon has said himself. That's why it's bizarre.
Not a direct comparison, but Fraser Foster was 21 or 22 when Lennon signed him on loan, and he turned out not too bad! Dont think its that unusual for a proposed loan player to get a game and for both parties to have a look at whats on offer?

There are a lot of good young goalies looking for games. Its the older ones who dont now have a team that we should be wary about maybe!

[Nutmegged]

Hibs made no attempt to sign him.

That is exactly what I don't understand, it was a no brainer.

[brog]

That is exactly what I don't understand, it was a no brainer.

No stranger than Aberdeen not wanting him, especially given the keepers they had in 2nd half of last season.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hibs got £65,000 for him. Back in 1961 that was a fortune, around £14 million in todays rates.



considerably less than that.... = £1,351,825.93p ....or did you miss a point between the 1 and 4 :)

[southsider]

considerably less than that.... = £1,351,825.93p ....or did you miss a point between the 1 and 4 :)

My mother bought out first flat in 1961 for £700 now for sale for £150,000. 220 times the 1961 price. £65,000 x 220-. Maybe a wrong way to compare. How did u get ur figure ? Similarly in 1961 I think entrance to ER was 2bob (10p). Thursday's game is £22 again 220 times the 1961 rate.

[Big L]

My mother bought out first flat in 1961 for £700 now for sale for £150,000. 220 times the 1961 price. £65,000 x 220-. Maybe a wrong way to compare. How did u get ur figure ? Similarly in 1961 I think entrance to ER was 2bob (10p). Thursday's game is £22 again 220 times the 1961 rate.
That's 55 yrs ago Cabbage, how did you turn £65K in to £ 1.3 Mill plus?

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I see Ziggy Gordon has signed for Partick - he was rated highly by Hamilton and was apparently leaving to "move on to a bigger club to further his career" i wouldn't have put Partick Thistle as a step up. Think he could have done a job for us to challenge wee Lewis

[Callum_62]

I see Ziggy Gordon has signed for Partick - he was rated highly by Hamilton and was apparently leaving to "move on to a bigger club to further his career" i wouldn't have put Partick Thistle as a step up. Think he could have done a job for us to challenge wee Lewis

hes a right back

[scoopyboy]

I see Ziggy Gordon has signed for Partick - he was rated highly by Hamilton and was apparently leaving to "move on to a bigger club to further his career" i wouldn't have put Partick Thistle as a step up. Think he could have done a job for us to challenge wee Lewis

Apart from the fact he's a right back I think Lewis can expect a challenge from Callum Crane soon.

[Mr White]

I see Ziggy Gordon has signed for Partick - he was rated highly by Hamilton and was apparently leaving to "move on to a bigger club to further his career" i wouldn't have put Partick Thistle as a step up. Think he could have done a job for us to challenge wee Lewis
They've got 3 permanent stands in their stadium compared to Hamilton's 2 so in that respect at least it's a step up :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

My mother bought out first flat in 1961 for £700 now for sale for £150,000. 220 times the 1961 price. £65,000 x 220-. Maybe a wrong way to compare. How did u get ur figure ? Similarly in 1961 I think entrance to ER was 2bob (10p). Thursday's game is £22 again 220 times the 1961 rate.


That's 55 yrs ago Cabbage, how did you turn £65K in to £ 1.3 Mill plus?


i just put the figure in here
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html


:dunno: it's certainly a lot less than the 14 million i quoted :)

[Geo_1875]

i just put the figure in here
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html


:dunno: it's certainly a lot less than the 14 million i quoted :)

No real comparison as football has changed so much over the years. Given the money sloshing around nowadays a £65k transfer fee in 1961 would work out at a £90k bid from The Rangers.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Apart from the fact he's a right back I think Lewis can expect a challenge from Callum Crane soon.

ah my bad - genuinely thought he was left footed. Must admit I've been really impressed with what I've seen from Crane in pre-season. Hopefully he can make the step up

[SJM]

Oxley having a medical with Southend today. :thumbsup:

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

They've got 3 permanent stands in their stadium compared to Hamilton's 2 so in that respect at least it's a step up :greengrin

:top marks:top marks:top marks belter

[southsider]

The EPL are buying non-descript players for £10 million +. If the 1961 Joe came around bids would start at £25 million. Already a full England cap and having scored at least 30 goals in each of his 4 years at ER. Scored a hat-trick against Danny Blanchflower in only his 3rd ever 1st team game.

[hibs0666]

i just put the figure in here
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html


:dunno: it's certainly a lot less than the 14 million i quoted :)

That's way understated. Here is some football inflation data going back to 1993.

https://sports.vice.com/en_uk/article/football-inflation-and-the-transfer-window

Cumulative inflation between 1961 and 1993 is around 1000%, and that would take your £65K to £730K. Then football inflation goes nuts.

Between 1993 and 2015 your £730K would then increase 11-fold to £8.2 million. Sounds more like it to be honest.

[Lago]

Oxley having a medical with Southend today. :thumbsup:
Are we getting a fee for him?

[staunchhibby]

Do not think we are getting a feefor him.All the best ox and hope you get peace now.Possibly no boo boys there.

[Logie]

What's happening with Cummings? Surely if he did sign would have been announced at earliest opportunity especially leading upto Thursday's game? Makes me think it's not happening tbh.

[hibs0666]

What's happening with Cummings? Surely if he did sign would have been announced at earliest opportunity especially leading upto Thursday's game? Makes me think it's not happening tbh.

No news is good news.

[SJM]

Oxley having a medical with Southend today. :thumbsup:

Passed it then :greengrin: no fee, he was told he was free to join another club and wouldn't stand in his way.

[mjhibby]

Passed it then :greengrin: no fee, he was told he was free to join another club and wouldn't stand in his way.

Good luck mark. Leaves a Scottish cup winner. Wonder who will be the new boo boys target.

[Steve20]

Good luck mark. Leaves a Scottish cup winner. Wonder who will be the new boo boys target.

Do we really have boo boys?

[Kato]

Do we really have boo boys?


Booooo

[staunchhibby]

Either we have or somebody has a good radio.To give us that impression

[jacomo]

Do we really have boo boys?

Have you ever been to Easter Road?

[Steve20]

Have you ever been to Easter Road?

Every home game. There's this myth from some people that our fans are somehow worse than others when it comes to getting on players backs. It's just not true.

[Famous Fiver]

Looking forward to finding out what effect the Scottish Cup win has had on Mr 'Unbelievable' who sits behind me in the East.

[Del Boy]

Dundee Utd sign Cammy Smith on loan from Aberdeen. Decent signing but for a forward he doesn't score many goals.

[jgl07]

Do we really have boo boys?

No. It's just a malicious rumour put about by Hibs players who have been booed.

[HappyHanlon]

Starter for 10 about booboys

Season 15/16 - Oxley + Malonga
Season 14/15 - Craig
Season 13/14 - Pick anyone out of the relegation squad (with maybe the exception of Stanton and Cummings)

[neil7908]

Every home game. There's this myth from some people that our fans are somehow worse than others when it comes to getting on players backs. It's just not true.

I agree with this actually. The only times I can remember more than one or two folk booing the team is half time at the Falkirk semi when we were 0-3 down and at full time in the SC final against Hearts. Frankly I think it was pretty reasonable in the circumstances. Yes you'll get one or two idiots giving players grief sometimes in games but I promise that's the same with every team. As you say we're no better or worse than any other club in Scottish football. If you want to see real boo boys try going to the Bernabau, now that is something else!

[PeterboroHibee]

Dundee Utd sign Cammy Smith on loan from Aberdeen. Decent signing but for a forward he doesn't score many goals.

I may be proven wrong, but I still think their squad looks really average. As it stands I dont see them posing much threat for automatic promotion.

[Del Boy]

I may be proven wrong, but I still think their squad looks really average. As it stands I dont see them posing much threat for automatic promotion.

Don't really disagree. I think their signings - Bell, Toshney and Smith - are decent if unspectacular.

The boy Murray up front finished the season well but beyond that I don't see much quality in their squad. Apparently signing Willo Flood too, who again would be a decent championship player but nothing to worry about IMO

[Big L]

I like the boy Murray, very direct and certainly knows where the goals are. Wish we had him!

[Jonnyboy]

I like the boy Murray, very direct and certainly knows where the goals are. Wish we had him!

Maybe his Dad, who played for Hibs, could have a word? :greengrin

[PeterboroHibee]

I like the boy Murray, very direct and certainly knows where the goals are. Wish we had him!

He works hard and is quick, but ability wise he is nowhere near any of our strikers imo.

[J-C]

Must admit I don't hear booing but you get the usual moaning faced gets but that's about it.

[Diclonius]

There's also the guy in the North end of the West that regularly goes "RE-FAH-REE, YOU'RE COMPLETELY USELESS" at least once every game.

[Squealing pig]

Rumours?

[WoreTheGreen]

Maybe his Dad, who played for Hibs, could have a word? :greengrin

His dad was a saw doctor true but he was not the sharpist tool in the box

[I'm_cabbaged]

[QUOTE=Famous Fiver;4759033]Looking forward to finding out what effect the Scottish Cup win has had on Mr 'Unbelievable' who sits behind me in the East.[/

Guy with a golf cap?

[Big L]

He works hard and is quick, but ability wise he is nowhere near any of our strikers imo.

It's a matter of opinion, I would swap him for any striker we have except JC.

[West lower]

Rumours?

Easy. Fleetwood Mac.

[erin go bragh]

There's also the guy in the North end of the West that regularly goes "RE-FAH-REE, YOU'RE COMPLETELY USELESS" at least once every game.

Tbh . I'd agree with him for most home games last season :)

[Wee Effen Bee]

Easy. Fleetwood Mac.
What about Graham Parker's mates?:greengrin

[Saturday Boy]

What about Graham Parker's mates?:greengrin

Don't ask me questions. :wink::wink:

[Eyrie]

Easy. Fleetwood Mac.

Don't stop. We want some second hand news of signings for our dreams.

[Big L]

Maybe his Dad, who played for Hibs, could have a word? :greengrin

Who was his dad? It couldn't be Willies son!

[Keyser Sauzee]

It's a matter of opinion, I would swap him for any striker we have except JC.


True its all about opinions but I think you will be in the minority if u think he's better than Keatings & Holt

[southsider]

Who was his dad? It couldn't be Willies son!

Gary Murray. Think he signed from Montrose. Bit of a head-less chicken

[Bostonhibby]

Who was his dad? It couldn't be Willies son!
Gary Murray? Striker signed from Montrose.

[Jonnyboy]

Who was his dad? It couldn't be Willies son!

Gary Murray. Signed from Montrose

Edit: Oops, beaten to it twice :greengrin

[Jones28]

Don't stop. We want some second hand news of signings for our dreams.

Stone Roses 👍

[Big L]

True its all about opinions but I think you will be in the minority if u think he's better than Keatings & Holt

Sorry, but that wouldn't change mu opinion!

[hibbypostie]

Easy. Fleetwood Mac.

nah easy was by the commadores
:wink:

[Wheat Hound]

The Sun (yes I know!) States Palmer will sign on loan but we're still looking for another goalie. Seems strange to have 3 inexperienced goalies but still looking for another, unless Otso is being primed for a loan move or transfer?

[Diclonius]

I'm curious as to whether Palmer will be first choice or if we're still looking for someone. Seems a little young/inexperienced to go straight into the first XI.

[southsider]

I'm curious as to whether Palmer will be first choice or if we're still looking for someone. Seems a little young/inexperienced to go straight into the first XI.
He just seems too little. Need a big guy to command the box. Come and collect crosses etc.

[Scotthibs1875]

He just seems too little. Need a big guy to command the box. Come and collect crosses etc.

He's 6ft. Just because he's not a giant doesn't mean he can't take a cross. Makalamby was hardly commanding was he.

[southsider]

He's 6ft. Just because he's not a giant doesn't mean he can't take a cross. Makalamby was hardly commanding was he.
6ft ? Was he really. Looked smaller and seemed to want to punch away crosses. Anyway best of luck to him if he signs.

[hibs0666]

The Sun (yes I know!) States Palmer will sign on loan but we're still looking for another goalie. Seems strange to have 3 inexperienced goalies but still looking for another, unless Otso is being primed for a loan move or transfer?

The Sun should get a bad rep for all sorts of reasons, but it is pretty much on the money regarding Hibs transfer activity.

[Stevie Reid]

He's 6ft. Just because he's not a giant doesn't mean he can't take a cross. Makalamby was hardly commanding was he.

Same with Morten Hyldgaard - remember being excited when we signed a goalkeeper of such physical stature, yet played one game in the Festival Cup v Hearts and flapped at crosses the whole game. Was never seen again.

[J-C]

The Sun (yes I know!) States Palmer will sign on loan but we're still looking for another goalie. Seems strange to have 3 inexperienced goalies but still looking for another, unless Otso is being primed for a loan move or transfer?


Probably need 4, 2 per team.

[Hero76]

We need to resolve the goalkeeping situation now I can believe we are going with untried and tested .

[CapitalGreen]

What age/experience defines when a keeper is good enough?

Craig Gordon was 21 when he became a regular for Hearts having only played 15 senior games previously (13 for Cowdenbeath), full international by 22.
Thibaut Courtois signed for Chelsea aged 19 only having played 45 senior games for Genk and played in the Europa League final at 20.
Iker Casillas, Real Madrid at 18.
Gianluigi Buffon, Parma at 18.
Gianluigi Donnarumma, AC Milan at 16
David De Gea, Atletico Madrid at 19
Manuel Neuer, Schalke at 20
Peter Cech, Sparta Prague at 19

I'm not suggesting any of our keepers are close to the above standard before anyone goes off on one. I would be interested to get folks views on the age/experience question though.

[snooky]

What age/experience defines when a keeper is good enough?

Craig Gordon was 21 when he became a regular for Hearts having only played 15 senior games previously (13 for Cowdenbeath), full international by 22.
Thibaut Courtois signed for Chelsea aged 19 only having played 45 senior games for Genk and played in the Europa League final at 20.
Iker Casillas, Real Madrid at 18.
Gianluigi Buffon, Parma at 18.
Gianluigi Donnarumma, AC Milan at 16
David De Gea, Atletico Madrid at 19
Manuel Neuer, Schalke at 20
Peter Cech, Sparta Prague at 19

I'm not suggesting any of our keepers are close to the above standard before anyone goes off on one. I would be interested to get folks views on the age/experience question though.

"If you're good enough, you're old enough." - Matt Busby

End off.

[scoopyboy]

What age/experience defines when a keeper is good enough?

Craig Gordon was 21 when he became a regular for Hearts having only played 15 senior games previously (13 for Cowdenbeath), full international by 22.
Thibaut Courtois signed for Chelsea aged 19 only having played 45 senior games for Genk and played in the Europa League final at 20.
Iker Casillas, Real Madrid at 18.
Gianluigi Buffon, Parma at 18.
Gianluigi Donnarumma, AC Milan at 16
David De Gea, Atletico Madrid at 19
Manuel Neuer, Schalke at 20
Peter Cech, Sparta Prague at 19

I'm not suggesting any of our keepers are close to the above standard before anyone goes off on one. I would be interested to get folks views on the age/experience question though.

Watched a program on BT sports after Celtic game.

It was all about old League Cup Finals from England.

When Notts Forest beat Liverpool they had 18 yo Chris Woods in goals. He kept a clean sheet at Wembley and at the Old Trafford replay.

[GlesgaeHibby]

What age/experience defines when a keeper is good enough?

Craig Gordon was 21 when he became a regular for Hearts having only played 15 senior games previously (13 for Cowdenbeath), full international by 22.
Thibaut Courtois signed for Chelsea aged 19 only having played 45 senior games for Genk and played in the Europa League final at 20.
Iker Casillas, Real Madrid at 18.
Gianluigi Buffon, Parma at 18.
Gianluigi Donnarumma, AC Milan at 16
David De Gea, Atletico Madrid at 19
Manuel Neuer, Schalke at 20
Peter Cech, Sparta Prague at 19

I'm not suggesting any of our keepers are close to the above standard before anyone goes off on one. I would be interested to get folks views on the age/experience question though.

:agree: Danny Rogers at Falkirk was the best goalie in the Championship (by some way IMO) last year and is still only 22.

[Smartie]

I quite like Falkirk's goalie policy.

They rarely seem to have one of their own but get a top young goalkeeper in on loan, in the past they've had Krul and Schmeichel.

Rodgers did very well for them last season. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be able to get a chance at Aberdeen.

I think we should pull out all the stops to get highly rated English club goalies in on loan. Get someone who has big things expected of them in a few years, maybe in their late teens who could benefit from having a season playing every week that they're not going to get elsewhere.

It didn't do Krul or Schmechel any harm at all.

[theonlywayisup]

What age/experience defines when a keeper is good enough?

Craig Gordon was 21 when he became a regular for Hearts having only played 15 senior games previously (13 for Cowdenbeath), full international by 22.
Thibaut Courtois signed for Chelsea aged 19 only having played 45 senior games for Genk and played in the Europa League final at 20.
Iker Casillas, Real Madrid at 18.
Gianluigi Buffon, Parma at 18.
Gianluigi Donnarumma, AC Milan at 16
David De Gea, Atletico Madrid at 19
Manuel Neuer, Schalke at 20
Peter Cech, Sparta Prague at 19

I'm not suggesting any of our keepers are close to the above standard before anyone goes off on one. I would be interested to get folks views on the age/experience question though.

Some good stats! I've never been sure about the belief that you need an experienced goalkeeper - as others have said, if your good enough your old enough.

Contrast our last three cup winning goalies - a thirty nine John Burridge, a twenty year old Andy McNeil and a thirty year old Conrad Logan - at time of their greatest achievement

[CapitalGreen]

I quite like Falkirk's goalie policy.

They rarely seem to have one of their own but get a top young goalkeeper in on loan, in the past they've had Krul and Schmeichel.

Rodgers did very well for them last season. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be able to get a chance at Aberdeen.

I think we should pull out all the stops to get highly rated English club goalies in on loan. Get someone who has big things expected of them in a few years, maybe in their late teens who could benefit from having a season playing every week that they're not going to get elsewhere.

It didn't do Krul or Schmechel any harm at all.

Agreed, they would have been dismissed by many as too young or inexperienced.

Tim Krul was 19 and had made no senior appearances.
Kasper Schmeichel was 20 and had made only 43 senior appearances.

We won the League Cup in 2007 with a keeper who had just turned 20.
We got relegated in 2014 with a 31 year old with over 250 senior appearances.

[Ozyhibby]

Age is not important if you are good enough. That cuts both ways though, it can't be trotted out as an excuse more than a couple of times. First team football is a steep learning curve and any young goalie better be up for learning quickly.


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[Gordy M]

Age is not important if you are good enough. That cuts both ways though, it can't be trotted out as an excuse more than a couple of times. First team football is a steep learning curve and any young goalie better be up for learning quickly.


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Well if thats the case then David de Gea shouldve been dumped by man utd about halfway through his first season?? Of course age/experience can be a factor as long as you can see that the keeper has talent. Silly mistakes happen to all keepers but your post seems to suggest that a couple of mistakes and its open season to critisize??

[West lower]

I quite like Falkirk's goalie policy.

They rarely seem to have one of their own but get a top young goalkeeper in on loan, in the past they've had Krul and Schmeichel.

Rodgers did very well for them last season. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be able to get a chance at Aberdeen.

I think we should pull out all the stops to get highly rated English club goalies in on loan. Get someone who has big things expected of them in a few years, maybe in their late teens who could benefit from having a season playing every week that they're not going to get elsewhere.

It didn't do Krul or Schmechel any harm at all.

Is that not what we are doing with Palmer ?

[J-C]

Fraser Forster was 22 when he went to Celtic.
Joe Hart was 21 when he had that brilliant season on loan at Birmingham.
Jack Butland is only 23 and has racked up 152 1st team games.
Ben Foster was 22 when he went on loan to Watford for 2 seasons and played 73 times in 2 seasons there.

[bingo70]

The problem with goalies being young isn't the number of years they've been alive, it's the attributes and confidence most only develop as they get a bit older.

Young keepers will be more than capable of making the same saves and catching the same crosses as their older counterparts, where i think they struggle is the ability to bully the box, whether that being the opposing strikers or their own experienced older defenders, it takes a lot of balls for a young keeper just starting out to take control of the box and making sure they're listened to. Some can do it some can't, I'd hate for us to rule out a young keeper because of their age but it's why I think managers tend to lean towards the older keepers.

[BT58]

Aberdeen sign a winger from Bristol city ( loan ) . Wonder if Pawlett heading our way, has pace but a bit slippery when wet...oooh matron

[HibsNutter]

Tbh our last goalie was inexperienced, it doesn't come with age. He'd hardly played many first team games in his career.

[seanoheimhin]

Really disappointed so far with the lack of ambition and imagination Lennon is showing with his attempted signings.

I really hope I'm made to eat my words, but we're not being linked with anyone exciting never mind looking like getting a deal done. So frustrating given the feel-good factor that has been around the club the last couple of months.

[Geo_1875]

Really disappointed so far with the lack of ambition and imagination Lennon is showing with his attempted signings.

I really hope I'm made to eat my words, but we're not being linked with anyone exciting never mind looking like getting a deal done. So frustrating given the feel-good factor that has been around the club the last couple of months.

Anybody in particular you think we should be linked with?

I'm happy for Hibs to announce signings when they are finalised rather than discussing why we didn't get/go after everybody that's available.

[CapitalGreen]

Really disappointed so far with the lack of ambition and imagination Lennon is showing with his attempted signings.

I really hope I'm made to eat my words, but we're not being linked with anyone exciting never mind looking like getting a deal done. So frustrating given the feel-good factor that has been around the club the last couple of months.

Personally think the squad is strong enough to win this division. Maybe another striker in for depth in that area. Our failings in the league last season were tactical not personnel.

[Smartie]

Getting a big target man was the number one priority and he did that immediately.

It was a really important signing which might revitalise several other fringe players - Boyle, Carmichael and Harris will all have more worth with a big man to hit with crosses.

Getting Hanlon, Cummings and Forster signed up again is a huge boost - Hanlon and Cummings would have taken a bit of replacing on our budget and in our league.

It's always fun bringing players in, we like the excitement and we always crave change. But I'm 100% happy with Lennon, his business done so far and his general approach.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Really disappointed so far with the lack of ambition and imagination Lennon is showing with his attempted signings.

I really hope I'm made to eat my words, but we're not being linked with anyone exciting never mind looking like getting a deal done. So frustrating given the feel-good factor that has been around the club the last couple of months.

He re-signed Hanlon and Cummings - and stated they could well be his most important signings. Let alone Holt, who could have a superb partnership with Jason.

I don't think we need much, we have Boyle, Harris, Carmichael, Handling all going to get a chance - and under Lennon could be good players.

Moreover, there's a long way to go until window slam shuts. Lennon knows some good players can become available later.

4 year deal for Cummings, IMO, is a tremendous signing - I don't know what more fans want for a feel good factor than that!

[Smartie]

Is that not what we are doing with Palmer ?

Possibly. If we are, I'm fine with it.

All that matters is that he's good enough.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Getting a big target man was the number one priority and he did that immediately.

It was a really important signing which might revitalise several other fringe players - Boyle, Carmichael and Harris will all have more worth with a big man to hit with crosses.

Getting Hanlon, Cummings and Forster signed up again is a huge boost - Hanlon and Cummings would have taken a bit of replacing on our budget and in our league.

It's always fun bringing players in, we like the excitement and we always crave change. But I'm 100% happy with Lennon, his business done so far and his general approach.

:agree:

couldn't agree more. If anything I'm actually surprised how easily it seems to have been to get the out of contract players tied down on long term contracts. Next thing for me would be to offer Super John Mcginn an extension and a wage rise.

We may end up signing another few players but i don't see any hurry - as you've said, we've got our number 1 priority in (a target man) which will open up play to the other players that are returning from injury/loans.

We can walk this league with the squad we have and i'd like the lad Insall to get a chance this season before stepping up to the premiership

[Andy74]

:agree:

couldn't agree more. If anything I'm actually surprised how easily it seems to have been to get the out of contract players tied down on long term contracts. Next thing for me would be to offer Super John Mcginn an extension and a wage rise.

We may end up signing another few players but i don't see any hurry - as you've said, we've got our number 1 priority in (a target man) which will open up play to the other players that are returning from injury/loans.

We can walk this league with the squad we have and i'd like the lad Insall to get a chance this season before stepping up to the premiership

We finished third last time with a better squad so let's not pretend it doesn't need improving.

I'd expect to see 3 or 4 good additions before the league gets going.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

We finished third last time with a better squad so let's not pretend it doesn't need improving.

I'd expect to see 3 or 4 good additions before the league gets going.

Playing a different style with the same players could yield different results. Already we've seen Lennon using the wings more which has created more opportunities. Perhaps just a couple of additions and a new way of playing will be all that's required?

[Craig_in_Prague]

We finished third last time with a better squad so let's not pretend it doesn't need improving.

I'd expect to see 3 or 4 good additions before the league gets going.

Rangers were in the league; and we finished on same points as Falkirk ..... and we all know fine margins cost us 2nd (as well as soft minded performances in March - won't happen under Lennon)
Let's not pretend 3rd was some miserable failure.

Holt will prove to be worth a lot to the team and Jason himself, who we know just signed a 4 year deal, he's clearly going to knuckle down and give his all for the team.

We won the SC, shown over the last 2 years we could match Rangers (in fact a 7-6 head to head in Hibs favour), beat loads of SPL teams as well -
We will romp the league this season (+10 pts at least)

Yes we can state we finished 3rd, but it's such a negative response - fact or not!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

We finished third last time with a better squad so let's not pretend it doesn't need improving.

I'd expect to see 3 or 4 good additions before the league gets going.

We had a plan A last season and when that didny work against the teams that camped in their 18 yard box we didn't know what to do. Balls in to the box didny work for Cummings/Keatings and stokes but wi Holt we've got that target man now

I am in no way concerned with the squad as it is. Maybe 1 striker and possibly a winger for me

[21.05.2016]

We've been very quiet on the new signing front but delighted we've managed to wrap up new deals for Cummings and Hanlon and as someone already mentioned, there isn't a great deal we need to add. Not like 2 seasons ago when we were basically building a whole new team.

The signings will come. Lennon has good contacts so hopefully he can pull some strings and bring in a couple exciting new additions. Keep calm, I have faith in Lennon, Leann and her team behind the scenes. They know what their doing.

[Hero76]

We need to resolve the goalkeeping situation now I can believe we are going with untried and tested .

This

[Zazu62]

Michael McGovern no got a club yet ?

[bingo70]

Can any new signings play next week or was the transfer deadline for both legs?

[Logie]

Michael McGovern no got a club yet ?


That would be class!

[pacoluna]

Liam Henderson was in the stand today

[Vault Boy]

That would be class!

Absolutely no chance. Last January - maybe, now, his stock has skyrocketed. Wouldn't be surprised to see him in the BPL or English Championship, Southampton & Burnley were interested fairly recently.

[HibeeMassive]

Can new signings play next week?

I know there is a cut off but wasn't sure if there was one for each match or if you need to have the same squad for both matches?

[Michael]

Liam Henderson was in the stand today

:hyper :pray: Lenny pls!

[Heisenberg]

Rudi Skacel apparently signing for Raith. Can't wait to see Bartley take care of that situation in our first meeting with them :greengrin

[IWasThere2016]

We finished third last time with a better squad so let's not pretend it doesn't need improving.

I'd expect to see 3 or 4 good additions before the league gets going.

This - we're weaker and need quality players.

[neil7908]

This - we're weaker and need quality players.

Still think we need 4 players at least. Goalkeeper, left back, winger and a striker. Probably need some competition for Gray at right back as well

[GreenOnions]

Still think we need 4 players at least. Goalkeeper, left back, winger and a striker. Probably need some competition for Gray at right back as well

I think this is bang on. You can see some of the things Lennon is trying to do. The existing squad doesn't match exactly the things he'd like to do though and tonight there were a few examples of square pegs in round holes eg McGeouch out on the left, Keatings on the right of a front three when he came on etc. He'd probably love to see Harris, Boyle or Carmichael stand out from the crowd in a wide role but none of them has really set the heather on fire ........ yet.

A goalkeeper is probably top priority followed by someone who can play wide and run at/past defenders with a bit of pace, another striker and then a left back. Interesting though that he tried Hanlon in centre midfield. Bartley was probably our poorest performer tonight but it could also be an indication that he wants a bit more physical presence in midfield all the time and not just on the odd occasion.

[Diclonius]

Rudi Skacel apparently signing for Raith. Can't wait to see Bartley take care of that situation in our first meeting with them :greengrin

He can **** off.

I never want to see his face at ER again.

[snooky]

Still think we need 4 players at least. Goalkeeper, left back, winger and a striker. Probably need some competition for Gray at right back as well

Maybe we'll going back to the good old days when we shop in the bargain basement 10mins before closing time.
This trick has been pulled before. Cheat me once, fool you. Cheat me twice, fool me.

[The_Horde]

Maybe we'll going back to the good old days when we shop in the bargain basement 10mins before closing time.
This trick has been pulled before. Cheat me once, fool you. Cheat me twice, fool me.

Good troll m8.

[Ozyhibby]

I keep reading on here that we have enough centre mids but first game of the season and we have to play Paul Hanlon there? We have to strengthen.


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[The Captain....]

We need to get signings in soon imo..we have the bones of a good side but we lack the 2 or 3 important ingredients to really guarantee promotion imo. As it stands we are weaker than last season.

Im really disappointed we haven't brought in an experienced keeper before now. Exposing a young(ish) keeper with confidence issues in a big European match was absolute folly and has cost us a cheap goal. As I said this position should have been dealt with.

I like the look of Holt, he runs himself into the ground, is a real handful and seems to be excited by the prospect of the season ahead. Lets be realistic tho, he;s going to need a rest from time to time and we need cover. A striker with strength and pace is sorely needed.

Creativity, we lacked it at times tonight, a tricky position to fill but desperately needed to augment the effort and teamwork elsewhere in this side.

Its not about quantity for once with us close season, but we really need better quality in a few key positions.

[seanoheimhin]

Anybody in particular you think we should be linked with?

I'm happy for Hibs to announce signings when they are finalised rather than discussing why we didn't get/go after everybody that's available.

Just compared to the likes of McGinn, Allan, Henderson, Stokes, McGeoch, this window we've been linked with Heskey (38!) and missing out on someone like Scott McDonald (32) and supposed to be buzzed about 35 year old Grant Holt.

Holt could yet turn out to be a good signing for a year, but it's hardly thinking outside the box is it?

Understand where you're coming from about just announcing signings, but they aren't exactly rolling in.

[MWHIBBIES]

We need to get signings in soon imo..we have the bones of a good side but we lack the 2 or 3 important ingredients to really guarantee promotion imo. As it stands we are weaker than last season.

Im really disappointed we haven't brought in an experienced keeper before now. Exposing a young(ish) keeper with confidence issues in a big European match was absolute folly and has cost us a cheap goal. As I said this position should have been dealt with.

I like the look of Holt, he runs himself into the ground, is a real handful and seems to be excited by the prospect of the season ahead. Lets be realistic tho, he;s going to need a rest from time to time and we need cover. A striker with strength and pace is sorely needed.

Creativity, we lacked it at times tonight, a tricky position to fill but desperately needed to augment the effort and teamwork elsewhere in this side.

Its not about quantity for once with us close season, but we really need better quality in a few key positions.No player Hibs can afford will guarantee promotion so you really shouldn't be expecting that.

[berwickhibee]

Just compared to the likes of McGinn, Allan, Henderson, Stokes, McGeoch, this window we've been linked with Heskey (38!) and missing out on someone like Scott McDonald (32) and supposed to be buzzed about 35 year old Grant Holt.

Holt could yet turn out to be a good signing for a year, but it's hardly thinking outside the box is it?

Understand where you're coming from about just announcing signings, but they aren't exactly rolling in.

patience sir:greengrin lennon said very early on that we will be ready when the league starts, that's what is important.

I for 1 trust him and also think we will be pleasantly surprised with who we get, lennon is a shrewd operator and the 3 or 4 still to come in,will come in, but they must be right, and if that means playing the long game a wee bit,fine by me. we have a strong nucleus but need the same strength on the bench. lennon will get it right:flag:

[Smartie]

Last night was the first time I've seen us this season and my opinion on what we need has only changed slightly.

The GK position needs sorted. If we had budget for 3-4 players I'd pretty much blow it all on a top keeper if one became available. They can save (and cost) you points like no other player.

It is such an important position and that goal was a disgrace. I know Otso's only young and all that but you will never get anywhere if you chuck goals in only seconds into a cup tie. I do think we need to be tough and ruthless - it just wasn't good enough. Oxley was a decent keeper, not spectacular but you generally trust him. We've had so much worse. So that is currently priority 1,2 and 3 for me.

After that I'd still like a left-sided winger.

We won't face as good a side as Brondby this season unless we draw Celtic in the cup. Even then, I didn't think they were that great. What we have should be more than enough to achieve what we need to.

Hanlon did well when he went into midfield, as would Stevenson if we played him there. Carmichael can play centrally as well.

I think we've got more than enough quality AND depth to see us fine.

[Geo_1875]

Just compared to the likes of McGinn, Allan, Henderson, Stokes, McGeoch, this window we've been linked with Heskey (38!) and missing out on someone like Scott McDonald (32) and supposed to be buzzed about 35 year old Grant Holt.

Holt could yet turn out to be a good signing for a year, but it's hardly thinking outside the box is it?

Understand where you're coming from about just announcing signings, but they aren't exactly rolling in.

We're 2 weeks into a 9 week transfer period. We've just played our first competitive game of the season. I think there will be signings before the window closes and probably before our first league game. Who that might be, I've not got a clue because I don't know who the manager thinks we need cover for or who is available in our price range. Personally, if we got Henderson back from Celtc, Gunnarsson back from Valerenga and an experienced goalkeeper I'd be more than happy.

[007 Mickey Weir]

[QUOTE=seanoheimhin;4761713]Just compared to the likes of McGinn, Allan, Henderson, Stokes, McGeoch, this window we've been linked with Heskey (38!) and missing out on someone like Scott McDonald (32) and supposed to be buzzed about 35 year old Grant Holt.

Holt could yet turn out to be a good signing for a year, but it's hardly thinking outside the box is it?

Yes but the last two seasons we didn't have these players signed or ready to play until well into August. This season we have held onto big players like Hanlon, Cummings and McGinn. Also have the squad fit and ready.

As said before. We need to get keeper in ASAP. Add in Henderson and another and we are looking good.

[Stevie Reid]

Last night only filled me with encouragement, can't see why anyone would be concerned by the depth of squad - especially given we are almost guaranteed to sign at least three more players, IMO.

For mid July we were full of energy for most of the game, and played with real intensity and were quick and incisive in the final third. Play like that in the Championship and few will match us.

[southsider]

Oh for Hendo back last night. Free kick in last minute, Fontaine takes it and blasts it out for a bye. Praying for a decent ball into the box. Keatings ? McGinn ? Anyone but a centre-half.

[Hermit Crab]

Interestingly I see aberdeen signed a boy the day before the game or on the day of the game and he played last night. Does that mean if Hendo signed he could play in the second leg?

[CapitalGreen]

Just compared to the likes of McGinn, Allan, Henderson, Stokes, McGeoch, this window we've been linked with Heskey (38!) and missing out on someone like Scott McDonald (32) and supposed to be buzzed about 35 year old Grant Holt.

Holt could yet turn out to be a good signing for a year, but it's hardly thinking outside the box is it?


Signing a player (Holt) who does not fit the mould of our previous signings is surely the definition of an "outside the box" signing. Signing another young Scottish player like those listed would be very much thinking inside the box!

[The Captain....]

No player Hibs can afford will guarantee promotion so you really shouldn't be expecting that.

Wasn't what I said and I dont

[bingo70]

Interestingly I see aberdeen signed a boy the day before the game or on the day of the game and he played last night. Does that mean if Hendo signed he could play in the second leg?

I've asked that a couple of times and not seen an answer yet.

Anyone know if we can add any additional players to the squad before next week?

[Hermit Crab]

I've asked that a couple of times and not seen an answer yet.

Anyone know if we can add any additional players to the squad before next week?


I found this on kickback so don't take as gospel. This was in response to the same question we have asked, Hearts fan asked the same thing and this is the reply.

In the qualifying rounds, clubs are allowed to register one extra player after the deadline, providing it is done before midnight on the day of the match.

[Skyegreen]

I've heard we're in talks with Henderson. Not sure how true or false this is bit fingers crossed. Love the guy 💚😜

[neil7908]

I've heard we're in talks with Henderson. Not sure how true or false this is bit fingers crossed. Love the guy 💚😜

This is going to be controversial but signing Hendo wouldn't be my top priority. We desperately need a quality goalkeeper, followed by a winger and I'd also like to see us sign a striker and a left back that is decent going forward. If we can do all that and get Hendo then brilliant but we've loads of options in central midfield and gaps in other areas that I'd like to see us deal with 1st

[Borderhibbie76]

Maybe we'll going back to the good old days when we shop in the bargain basement 10mins before closing time.
This trick has been pulled before. Cheat me once, fool you. Cheat me twice, fool me.
😴😴😴

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[CapitalGreen]

This is going to be controversial but signing Hendo wouldn't be my top priority. We desperately need a quality goalkeeper, followed by a winger and I'd also like to see us sign a striker and a left back that is decent going forward. If we can do all that and get Hendo then brilliant but we've loads of options in central midfield and gaps in other areas that I'd like to see us deal with 1st

I'm not 100% sure but I think the club is allowed to work on different transfer targets simultaneously.

[Heisenberg]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/07/15/hibs-close-on-aberdeens-peter-pawlett/

Pawlett loan deal close...

[edwards]

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/07/15/hibs-close-on-aberdeens-peter-pawlett/

Pawlett loan deal close...

That would be a very good signing and might mean someone else being shown the door, possibly Carmichael

[Ronniekirk]

That would be a very good signing and might mean someone else being shown the door, possibly Carmichael

Has hardly featured for us and hasn't had a lot of game time under Lennon so thats a possibility and its hard to see Harris Stanton and Handling all being kept if they haven't forced their way into first team by first few games of season


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[bingo70]

Has hardly featured for us and hasn't had a lot of game time under Lennon so thats a possibility and its hard to see Harris Stanton and Handling all being kept if they haven't forced their way into first team by first few games of season


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I hoped Harris was going to come back to us like the old pre-injury Harris but I felt the early signs weren't promising last night. I know he didn't have long but these are the opportunities he needs to grasp and I think he had a couple of decent opportunities last night that he made a but of an arse of.

[The_Horde]

That would be a very good signing and might mean someone else being shown the door, possibly Carmichael

I'd be willing to bet either Stanton or Harris before Carmichael.

[number9dream]

Pawlett had a good 13-14 season but has toiled over the last couple of campaigns since he went all Walcott and insisted he wanted to play a central role.
If he's happy to be used as a winger then it could be a decent bit of business but he's no better than what we have in central positions.

[CallumHibs07]

I hoped Harris was going to come back to us like the old pre-injury Harris but I felt the early signs weren't promising last night. I know he didn't have long but these are the opportunities he needs to grasp and I think he had a couple of decent opportunities last night that he made a but of an arse of.

He's too predictable, cutting in every time. Needs the confidence to go on his left too.

[Dunbar Hibee]

I'd be willing to bet either Stanton or Harris before Carmichael.

I'd disagree.

[Green Fish]

I hoped Harris was going to come back to us like the old pre-injury Harris but I felt the early signs weren't promising last night. I know he didn't have long but these are the opportunities he needs to grasp and I think he had a couple of decent opportunities last night that he made a but of an arse of.
100% agree, I hope he proves me wrong but I think he will have a limited amount of games to impress, otherwise I think he'll leave in some capacity.

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