What would you prefer - President Trump or Brexit?

[Hibbyradge]

I realise that some people would be happy with one or both, but it's an interesting conundrum for the rest of us.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/10/president-trump-brexit-which-worse-britain-votes-leave-hammer-blow-peace?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign =GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=176807&su bid=16631905&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

[GlesgaeHibby]

Interesting read. The prospect of Clinton becoming president is also terrifying. Either way, there is going to be a nutjob in the white house for the next 4 years.

[Holmesdale Hibs]

I do find some articles in (and some readers of) the guardian to be quite smug and self righteous. But at least they're usually well written and sometimes entertaining.

To suggest Trump and Brexit are equally as crazy is just wrong. Trump is a nutter, end of. Anyone in the uk that supports him is highly likely to be a nutter too, although I'd assume that the vast majority of Brits are against him (without being pro Clinton). Approximately 50% of Brits want Brexit so the 2 are hardly equivalents.

I guess there are some similarities in that both Trump and Brexit are (partially at least) a result of the voters saying **** you to the usual BS and cronies in mainstream politics.

[RyeSloan]

I do find some articles in (and some readers of) the guardian to be quite smug and self righteous. But at least they're usually well written and sometimes entertaining. To suggest Trump and Brexit are equally as crazy is just wrong. Trump is a nutter, end of. Anyone in the uk that supports him is highly likely to be a nutter too, although I'd assume that the vast majority of Brits are against him (without being pro Clinton). Approximately 50% of Brits want Brexit so the 2 are hardly equivalents. I guess there are some similarities in that both Trump and Brexit are (partially at least) a result of the voters saying **** you to the usual BS and cronies in mainstream politics.

The article is thought provoking in a sense that it makes you think just how the membership of the EU is being equated to being so important to so many things..to read that would have you believe that not being in the EU automatically results in abject poverty and war and the U.K. suddenly being hewn in the image of Farage.

[Jack]

The article is thought provoking in a sense that it makes you think just how the membership of the EU is being equated to being so important to so many things..to read that would have you believe that not being in the EU automatically results in abject poverty and war and 《《《《the U.K. suddenly being hewn in the image of Farage.》》》》


I can see why.

I can't get my head round these totally unrelated questions, Are we all of a sudden swapping votes and the USA votes on our referendum and we elect their president? It's nonsense.

Anyway I'm having burgers for lunch so the weather will be fine for the girls doing the moonwalk tonight.

[Holmesdale Hibs]

..to read that would have you believe that not being in the EU automatically results in abject poverty and war and the U.K. suddenly being hewn in the image of Farage.

Absolutely. It's every bit as bad as some of the sensationalist anti-immigration nonsense that's written in the tabloids. Worse in fact, as there is at least some confidence in the projections for net migration.

[lucky]

Well one we can influence and one we can't. I "m confident of a comprehensive vote to leave the EU. Out on the doors people who don't normally vote are saying they've registered and are voting out. There are as many SNP supporters saying leave as Labour. Whilst nearly every Tory is for leave. Scotland is not as pro Europe as our politicians are making out.

[SHODAN]

Trump.

[RyeSloan]

Well one we can influence and one we can't. I "m confident of a comprehensive vote to leave the EU. Out on the doors people who don't normally vote are saying they've registered and are voting out. There are as many SNP supporters saying leave as Labour. Whilst nearly every Tory is for leave. Scotland is not as pro Europe as our politicians are making out.

Just as its not as left wing or as socialist as its made out either. Interesting to hear your feedback from the doorstep...it really does look like this could go either way.

While I have little time for the politicos campaigning for one or the other I must say that Corbyn's performance has been pathetic. For a man promising a new kind of politics his non stance on this rather important subject has been quite something (or nothing as the case maybe!)

[Sir David Gray]

Brexit without a doubt.

Donald Trump becoming President of the United States of America is a truly terrifying prospect.

[Pretty Boy]

Well one we can influence and one we can't. I "m confident of a comprehensive vote to leave the EU. Out on the doors people who don't normally vote are saying they've registered and are voting out. There are as many SNP supporters saying leave as Labour. Whilst nearly every Tory is for leave. Scotland is not as pro Europe as our politicians are making out.

I know referendum polling can be tricky but the last poll I saw had Scotland at about 65% for remain. Even allowing for a significant margin for error that's pretty clear cut.

[Smartie]

Brexit would be better.

I'm fairly easy-going on this referendum although I'm swaying towards remain - one way or another we'll adapt, move on and make the best of the situation.

Donald Trump is an imbecile and has absolutely none of the qualities needed in a president.

He is frankly everything I loathe about a human being and it is depressing that someone like him can get so far.

Although I almost have to admire his opportunism - to tap into the fears of the disaffected so effectively has been clever.

[NYHibby]

Well one we can influence and one we can't.

I vote in both countries. While I think I may be the only American on this board, I thought there were a couple of other dual US-UK citizens on this site from people moving the other direction.

Between the primary, Scottish elections, and the referendum I will vote in like a dozen races in a two month period.

[High-On-Hibs]

One of the interesting arguments IMO is the argument of Turkey finding its way into the EU if we choose to remain.

Not because I believe that would actually happen, but because I could see the UK turning into a Turkey at some point after leaving.

[lyonhibs]

It's like being asked whether you'd rather give yourself a Prince Albert with a rusty claw hammer or go boozing in Gorgie wearing a Hearts top on Derby day.

In that gawd awful scenario, I'd marginally go for Brexit, even though in reality I'm implacably against it.