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TheFamous1875
14-05-2016, 12:02 PM
How to win the league:



GK.


RB. CB. CB. LB.


RM. CM. CM. LM.


ST. ST.




Fullbacks as full backs, let the wingers burst forward with fullbacks staying back to give them the freedom to do so.


Strikers: little & large combo. 1 Target man, 1 off-the-shoulder, creative, fast type.


Central midfielders: both box-to-box. Defence & attack.


Wingers must be fast.


Keep it simple in the backwaters. Objective is to get back up. Scoring goals and pressuring teams will get us that. Ponderous, "passing" football hasn't (twice!).

We have a bigger budget, better players and better facilities. There really is no excuse for anything less.

SlickShoes
14-05-2016, 12:19 PM
Sure once Stubbs is away we will get some sort of excuse from the usual suspects about rebuilding, it's a hard league, never expected to win with X team in the league.

We can all see what it takes to beat teams here and slow total football isn't it, give teams time to get back in numbers and forget breaking them down.

truehibernian
14-05-2016, 12:26 PM
Only way to win it is to fill half the team with braun and physicality - it's the league it is and we need plan A,B and C. Teams defend in numbers and you need a route 1 approach in many games away from home. Hibs play football, a lost art in a league of anti football.

TheFamous1875
14-05-2016, 12:27 PM
Football's a simple game made complicated by simple people.

Gmack7
14-05-2016, 12:29 PM
Ditch the diamond

TheFamous1875
14-05-2016, 12:29 PM
Sure once Stubbs is away we will get some sort of excuse from the usual suspects about rebuilding, it's a hard league, never expected to win with X team in the league.

We can all see what it takes to beat teams here and slow total football isn't it, give teams time to get back in numbers and forget breaking them down.


Only way to win it is to fill half the team with braun and physicality - it's the league it is and we need plan A,B and C. Teams defend in numbers and you need a route 1 approach in many games away from home. Hibs play football, a lost art in a league of anti football.

Exactly this. Football's a simple game made complicated by simple people.

Cod Boy
14-05-2016, 12:30 PM
Football's a simple game made complicated by simple people.

100% agree

lyonhibs
14-05-2016, 12:30 PM
How to win the league:



GK.


RB. CB. CB. LB.


RM. CM. CM. LM.


ST. ST.




Fullbacks as full backs, let the wingers burst forward with fullbacks staying back to give them the freedom to do so.


Strikers: little & large combo. 1 Target man, 1 off-the-shoulder, creative, fast type.


Central midfielders: both box-to-box. Defence & attack.


Wingers must be fast.


Keep it simple in the backwaters. Objective is to get back up. Scoring goals and pressuring teams will get us that. Ponderous, "passing" football hasn't (twice!).

We have a bigger budget, better players and better facilities. There really is no excuse for anything less.

To be honest, that's how to do well in Scottish football full stop. The quality of the players isn't the problem for a change but we've been using them all wrong and the pass-pass-pass-pass-fall asleep ethos is just not what's needed.

SJM
14-05-2016, 12:33 PM
Phone GJP every 5 mins asking for him back. Get him to get Sauzee back to see the fans. It's a start.

TheFamous1875
14-05-2016, 12:43 PM
To be honest, that's how to do well in Scottish football full stop. The quality of the players isn't the problem for a change but we've been using them all wrong and the pass-pass-pass-pass-fall asleep ethos is just not what's needed.

100%. I have found Stubbs' attitude towards the league contemptuous, arrogant and patronising. That's why he hasn't won it. The man's a fool.

Last season could be forgiven by naïveté. This season it's been unabashed arrogance, and that is unforgivable.

The_Horde
14-05-2016, 12:50 PM
Git two wingers and pure run and Ping Baws in the boax eh it's what iverywun else does harts dun it and the stickies how kin we no eh..

Easy as that aye?

Rangers have wide players but they don't just whip balls into the box. It's not as simple as that.

MWHIBBIES
14-05-2016, 12:54 PM
Gaurantees absolutely nothing tbh, no idea why folk think wingers and hoofball is some kind of secret cheat code for this league.

TheFamous1875
14-05-2016, 12:56 PM
Git two wingers and pure run and Ping Baws in the boax eh it's what iverywun else does harts dun it and the stickies how kin we no eh..

Easy as that aye?

Rangers have wide players but they don't just whip balls into the box. It's not as simple as that.

It's as simple as that when you have a good squad of players at this level already, have a bigger budget and better facilities than the rest of the league. We have all the complicated stuff - all we need is the basic stuff that Stubbs has neglected to address.

ShinyFantastic
14-05-2016, 12:57 PM
Bring in Alex McLeish

truehibernian
14-05-2016, 12:58 PM
Gaurantees absolutely nothing tbh, no idea why folk think wingers and hoofball is some kind of secret cheat code for this league.

When was the last genuine winger you saw at Hibs ? Genuinely want to know ?

Tanner ba' wingers beat men, draw defenders and get crosses into the box - and when did we have a right hard bar steward forward who headed walls to strengthen neck muscles ? Because quite simply, finesse and technique are superb to have, but in football, you need what I've described if it's 0-0, 2-2, and you need a clincher !

lyonhibs
14-05-2016, 01:02 PM
Gaurantees absolutely nothing tbh, no idea why folk think wingers and hoofball is some kind of secret cheat code for this league.

Who is mentioning hoofball??

There are shades of grey here. Football isn't just tiki taka at one end then "Stoke under Pulis" at the other with nothing in between.

GlasgowHibee
14-05-2016, 01:11 PM
Dundee United looking good against Kilmarnock, no doubt they'll be more organised than us come August.

MWHIBBIES
14-05-2016, 01:14 PM
When was the last genuine winger you saw at Hibs ? Genuinely want to know ?

Tanner ba' wingers beat men, draw defenders and get crosses into the box - and when did we have a right hard bar steward forward who headed walls to strengthen neck muscles ? Because quite simply, finesse and technique are superb to have, but in football, you need what I've described if it's 0-0, 2-2, and you need a clincher !Boyle is a winger so yeah, probably him.

ShinyFantastic
14-05-2016, 01:30 PM
Boyle is a winger so yeah, probably him.

Boyle might be a winger but is he a good one? Personally I don't understand why people rate him, he loses possession nearly every time he gets the ball. Maybe it's just because we've been starved of having a good winger for so long that people are clutching at straws.

Glory Lurker
14-05-2016, 01:33 PM
Hit the byline.

truehibernian
14-05-2016, 01:44 PM
Boyle is a winger so yeah, probably him.

Played at wing back, midfield - never asked to hug that touch line.

We've not had wingers in decades mate much to my angst. And I love Boyle and his energy.

HibsNutter
14-05-2016, 01:46 PM
Dundee United looking good against Kilmarnock, no doubt they'll be more organised than us come August.

Bollocks. They'll be in the same position as we were at the start of last season, a complete overhaul.

Onion
14-05-2016, 01:54 PM
Get in a bunch of hammer throwers on same wages as Falkirk, use remaining funds to pay off the referees and watch our 'luck' change over night. The Huns title and the PO games prove that it's the officials who are the king makers in Scottish football.

renato
14-05-2016, 02:28 PM
When was the last genuine winger you saw at Hibs ? Genuinely want to know ?

Tanner ba' wingers beat men, draw defenders and get crosses into the box - and when did we have a right hard bar steward forward who headed walls to strengthen neck muscles ? Because quite simply, finesse and technique are superb to have, but in football, you need what I've described if it's 0-0, 2-2, and you need a clincher !

Ivan was probably the closest we've had to a proper winger, in recent times. And Mixu was the last (capable) brute we've had up front, in my mind. Both in their prime would tear this league up and are exactly what we're missing, currently.

1987kev
14-05-2016, 02:30 PM
Simple play with width and pace the same way the last 2 winners of the league done.

blackpoolhibs
14-05-2016, 02:43 PM
The wide men dont have to be wingers, they need to be comfortable on the ball with a bit of pace who can also deliver a ball that beats the first man.

We also need to have forwards who will burst a gut to get into positions for those deliveries.

We dont stretch teams nearly enough, and opposition players will always tell you they'd prefer to play against teams facing them rather than on the turn.

Tippy tappy football is fine if its varied with width and pace, width and pace with a delivery is what we've not had in years.

nickwhibs
14-05-2016, 03:00 PM
How to win the league:



GK.


RB. CB. CB. LB.


RM. CM. CM. LM.


ST. ST.




Fullbacks as full backs, let the wingers burst forward with fullbacks staying back to give them the freedom to do so.


Strikers: little & large combo. 1 Target man, 1 off-the-shoulder, creative, fast type.


Central midfielders: both box-to-box. Defence & attack.


Wingers must be fast.


Keep it simple in the backwaters. Objective is to get back up. Scoring goals and pressuring teams will get us that. Ponderous, "passing" football hasn't (twice!).

We have a bigger budget, better players and better facilities. There really is no excuse for anything less.

This 100 percent.

Green_one
14-05-2016, 03:09 PM
If there was ever a bigger bunch of LOSERS than Hibs then iDU win it by a mile United will do a Dunfermline.

Their owners is looking for a quick sale :rolleyes::rolleyes:

JC94
14-05-2016, 03:19 PM
Get in a bunch of hammer throwers on same wages as Falkirk, use remaining funds to pay off the referees and watch our 'luck' change over night. The Huns title and the PO games prove that it's the officials who are the king makers in Scottish football.

Thats the most idiotic thing someone's said on here, the Huns won the league because they were better/more consistent than us. Not the officials fault.

Baldy Foghorn
14-05-2016, 03:22 PM
Nullify Tavernier and Wallace and we will have a real chance

Newcastlehibby
14-05-2016, 04:59 PM
Only way to win it is to fill half the team with braun and physicality - it's the league it is and we need plan A,B and C. Teams defend in numbers and you need a route 1 approach in many games away from home. Hibs play football, a lost art in a league of anti football.

I don't see how an electric shaver is going to help. :greengrin

theonlywayisup
14-05-2016, 05:08 PM
Whilst Dundee United have been poor this season I'm 100% confident that McKinnon will know what to do to get out of the league at the first opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if they win the championship next year. I've no confidence at all that Hibs will learn from this and get promotion.