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Diclonius
14-05-2016, 08:20 AM
The best way to illustrate is to compare the margins of victory between us and the two previous Championship winners.

Season 2014-15

Hearts winning margins:
2 goals or more: 18
3 goals or more: 13
4 goals or more: 7
5 goals or more: 2

Hibs winning margins:
2 goals or more: 14
3 goals or more: 7
4 goals or more: 3
5 goals or more: 1

Season 2015-16

Rangers winning margins:
2 goals or more: 15
3 goals or more: 9
4 goals or more: 7
5 goals or more: 2

Hibs winning margins:
2 goals or more: 9
3 goals or more: 5
4 goals or more: 1
5 goals or more: 0

The stats, particularly from last season, are particularly clear. We do not score enough of our chances, and do not finish teams off. Hearts and Rangers won the league because they won the ball in the middle of the park and attacked extremely quickly with fast wingers so the slow as **** anti-football merchants in this division did not know what was coming. Teams who would sit back and defend against us quite happily did not know what hat hit them when they played these teams, as it makes light work of their tactics.

If we want to get promoted next season, we need to adopt this strategy. Patient, probing build up ten-passes-around-the-box build-up play does not work in this division, as it gives our opposition plenty time to stick even more men in front of us. You can guarantee that every side we play in this *****y division next season - with the possible exception of Dundee United - will do exactly this to us, every game. We can either persist with this nice-guy football and scrape lots more 2-1 wins and 1-1 draws next season, or we can pull the finger out and batter these teams.

sesoim
14-05-2016, 10:30 AM
I agree with what you are saying. We take forever in possesion and take too many touches, which makes it easy for the oppostion to get men behind the ball. We brought Stokes in and instead of being a goalscorer, he drops back and dwells on the ball all the time as well. The whole team needs wakened up before the final. But there are no signs there that we can play differently under Stubbs.

As I've said elsewhere, I hope whoever replaces Stubbs goes more down the Leicester approach - 40% possession and fast attacking play will do me if, ultimately, it leads to us scoring more goals and beating teams like we should be. If Stubbs stays and we continue to play this way next season, we will never go up.

Nicho87
14-05-2016, 10:36 AM
We simply didnt score enough goal when we were on top in games all season. Soft centred, for stubbs being a centre half we are weak in defence. Grays header for their second is not excusable

Eyrie
14-05-2016, 10:37 AM
That point was made last summer and nothing was done to address it.

That point was made in the early part of this season and nothing was done to address it in January.

We need a new approach to personnel and tactics this summer to address the problem.

Nicho87
14-05-2016, 10:42 AM
Big mean striker. Big mean defenders. Sick of this tip tap sideways garbage. Easy on the eye granted. But results make us fans happy.

Deansy
14-05-2016, 11:30 AM
Cumming's shot that rocketed off the bar last night highlights our biggest reason for failure this season - WHY wasn't he (and the other players) trying it more often instead of the 'Tippy-tappy - every goal must be Barcalonaesque' mentality that's been evident the whole season ??

SlickShoes
14-05-2016, 11:34 AM
We've been saying this stuff for over a year now, no matter how many times it's posted we won't be able to fix it, neither can Alan Stubbs.

Diclonius
14-05-2016, 11:43 AM
We've been saying this stuff for over a year now, no matter how many times it's posted we won't be able to fix it, neither can Alan Stubbs.

Then we know what the root of the problem is then.