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HappyHanlon
14-05-2016, 08:05 AM
So where exactly did we screw up this season?

- The Scott Allan saga. That entire circus should have been sorted out earlier than it was. As a result, we take it into the first game of the season and we lose. Fans turn on each other over Scott Allan.

- Letting Malonga leave. A player who was thriving and had a tremendous partnership with Cummings. They complemented each other. The signing of Stokes and Dagnall basically pushed the departure through. Stubbs could/should have asked Dom to stay until end of the season. He was being linked with Serie B teams for most of that season.

- Replacing quality with unfit players. Granted Stokes in recent weeks has started to flourish but we made a grave error replacing Dom with a player who hadn't kicked a ball in over a year. In the time it took him to get back to a reasonable fitness we failed to win in 7 games. Persevering with a partnership that wasn't working and has showed very little signs that it ever will. As for Dagnall....be better with a shop dummy.

- Livi Away (0-0) Rangers had just dropped points to Alloa and we had the chance to close the gap completley. Team never turned up and it was basically the game that started the 7 game rot (albeit we beat Alloa in between).

- Tactics. No pace, no width. Possession based football where we slow the ball down as much as possible. Diamonds preferred to 3-5-2. AAAARRRRGH!

- No cover for Lewis. Lewis has pretty much player every match this season. No cover for him. We've ran him into the ground. Signed that Eckersley guy who was injured. We essentially paid his medical bills for nothing in return.

- Defeats to Dumbarton x 2 and Alloa. How we dropped 9 points against part time tinpot clubs i'll never know. Next season we cannot afford to lose against the likes of Dumbarton, Morton and Stranraer/Ayr

There's probably more that i've missed.

Benny Brazil
14-05-2016, 08:08 AM
It went wrong when we were unable to kill teams off when leading in a game. That's been a problem all season.

Moody D
14-05-2016, 08:09 AM
There being no league construction in the last 3 years.

lyonhibs
14-05-2016, 08:47 AM
Goalkeeper.

Defence.

Midfield.

Attack.

Manager.

There's a few areas where it went wrong for starters.

Godsahibby
14-05-2016, 09:01 AM
Wasting a wage on Kevin Thomson when another centre mid was the last thing we needed.

Cod Boy
14-05-2016, 09:03 AM
And wasting a wage on Dagnall when Hibs have got a young lad scoring for fun in the under 20s Oli Shaw.

Aldo
14-05-2016, 09:04 AM
Letting Jordan Forster go out on loan.

CRAZYHIBBY
14-05-2016, 09:06 AM
Hibs need to learn how to score against a 10 man defence as that's how is been for most of the season

SJM
14-05-2016, 09:08 AM
Wasting a wage on Kevin Thomson when another centre mid was the last thing we needed.

He's got a coaching wage. Good effort though. Blaming Kevin Thomson 😄😄😄😄😄

Gettin' Auld
14-05-2016, 09:13 AM
Hibs need to learn how to score against a 10 man defence as that's how is been for most of the season

You do it with width, pace and power. Not strolling up the pitch, then fannying around on the edge of the other teams penalty box and making twenty pases while probing for an opening that probably isn't there.

HappyHanlon
14-05-2016, 09:13 AM
You do it with width, pace and power. Not strolling up the pitch, then fannying around on the edge of the other teams penalty box and making twenty pases while probing for an opening that probably isn't there.

Spot on

IberianHibernian
14-05-2016, 09:19 AM
All relevant points and probably made the difference between finishing a comfortable 2nd and 3rd but doubt we`d have got first so would still have had playoff lottery . last autumn many here were boasting about us having the best squad in the division but in the end Stubbs hasn`t been able to rest players like McGinn or drop others like Cummings cause alternatives were even worse . Next year will be different - off to a good start and going for first place from start .

Gatecrasher
14-05-2016, 09:20 AM
Not sacking Stubbs when there was a chance to save the season.

Forza Fred
14-05-2016, 09:21 AM
I think it started to go wrong early in the season.
The warning signs were there.....when we lost to part time Dumbarton..but we were guilty of glossing over it, and a reasonable run gave us false hope.

I still think we were underprepared for the start of the season....we had so many players on the treatment table at the START of the season, it was obvious to me something was amiss.

We signed players who were injured..one never even kicked a ball for us.

A while back there was an accusation by someone, forget his name who said that Stubbsie did not know how to prepare players...we pooh poohed it at the time, but who now knows if there was any credence to it.


The starting date for next season's championship WILLbe known well in advance just like it was this season.

All Ihope is that a squad of fully fit players is ready to go from game 1...I don't want any more of this amateurish.."we'll be ok when the players are match fit'nonsense at the start of the season

kentao
14-05-2016, 09:27 AM
It Went wrong when Stubbs refused to buy anyone with real pace in the wide positions that was direct and could run at defenders, all you have to do is look at Hearts and Rangers they had players who were very direct and if they didnt get to the byline they at least asked the defenders a question that's how they ended up with so many pens.

We stuck with a narrow diamond for most of the season and this resulted in slow build up plays as we were waiting on Gray or Stevenson to get forward by that time we were playing against 10 men behind the ball. We very rarely got any man for man counter attacks against the diddy teams.

Sticking with Oxley for so long didn't help either he is never a keeper and the time it took him to get things going we were playing against 10 defenders.

Farid being injured for all the season really hurt out chances in my opinion a fit Farid is the best striker we have at the club, he has a great touch, can finish with his head or his feet and you always noticed a positive difference when he was on the field.

Not playing 3-5-2 more often, i am sure it was the ICT game at ER where we set up 4-1-2-1-2 we really struggled to get a foothold in the game then Mcgeouch went off injured with big Gunnerson coming on to replace him, we went to a 3-5-2 and completely changed the game.

The Leith Dutch
14-05-2016, 09:33 AM
Not scoring enough goals plain and simple.

Dominating teams with 15 - 20 shots on goal and walking away from most of those games with 2 or fewer goals.

We ony had three games where we scored 4 and five games in the league where we scored 3.
At this level, with the players we have and with the chances we were creating that is not even remotely good enough.

The very fact that we had two extra games to play due to not being able to match Falkirk's goal tally says a lot.

Galls me to say it but look at the yams last season in what was arguably a stronger division:
They scored 4 on five different occassions and another five games scoring 5 or more including a 10-0.

That is *exactly* what we should have been doing this year.

High-On-Hibs
14-05-2016, 09:35 AM
Not sure why people keep referring to the play offs as a "lottery". It's the team that wants it more.

Onion
14-05-2016, 09:38 AM
All went wrong from Xmas. Stubbs got ahead of himself in the media, team selection and decision-making. He and the team weren't good enough to back up his bravado which backfired on us. Also think the talk of his move to Celtic affected the players.