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[SJM]

How do you come to that conclusion?

I never knew i could activate my eticketing account.. people are saying they only have 20-30 .. 428 seems a lot?

Hello Darren

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You shoulnt have to prove anything mate.

[SJM]

Surely it should be people who were on the database on a certain date. Anyone who gets on it now shouldn't be eligible.

I think after the concerns raised it will probably be the case and ammended soon?

[lyonhibs]

Are they regular away supporters too?
Are they on here giving their view points on a Hibs forum?

You're having a total mare here mate.

[BoomtownHibees]

Are they regular away supporters too?
Are they on here giving their view points on a Hibs forum?

As my post said they are away supporters as well.

What does it matter whether they post on here or not?

[IberianHibernian]

Aware that playoffs will provide extra work for office but leaving second wave until 9 days before match seems a bit tight especially as overseas fans and others travelling from a distance will almost all be in second wave . 8 days for wave 1 ? Surely this could be reduced by 2 or 3 days to allow regular attenders , others with lots of points and HIbs TV INTERNATIONAL subscribers ( as mentioned elsewhere a reduced number and club must have details of those who have subscribed for several years paying near to the price of an ER season ticket till last year ) .
Everyone appreciates STHs should get priority and that club should try to boost ST numbers for next year but debatable if bad feeling caused by not rewarding a lot of fans who also put a lot of money into the club will be compensated by higher ST sales ( how many people who haven`t paid in early bird time are likely to pay now still not knowing what division we`ll be in and will a lot be kids ? ).

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

You're having a total mare here mate.

It does seem to be a bit of a one man crusade, quite entertaining though.

[J-C]

You're having a total mare here mate.


Not really I'm big and ugly enough to deal with it :greengrin

So many new members this past month or so with so many disruptive views and posts, just found it so hard to believe someone with a ST an goes to so many away games, didn't have a clue about loyalty points, especially considering he's posting views on a thread about final tickets and loyalty points.

[Ross4356]

All Hibs need to do is add a second wave of 99+ and this whole issue is resolved, seems a no brainer

First Wave - Season tickets
Second Wave - 99+ points
Third wave - 1+ points
General sale

[pacoluna]

You shoulnt have to prove anything mate.

i'm not mate just was ignorant when it came to the loyalty point scheme as it never effected me. I asked a question about how do i go about finding out how many i've got to get shot down by posters presuming i should know if i had STicket. Golden Fleece quickly summed up what i had to do and now i know ( my e-ticketing had to be activated) still though if you get 10 for home games and 5 for away games how have i amassed 428 points?

[SJM]

Not really I'm big and ugly enough to deal with it :greengrin

So many new members this past month or so with so many disruptive views and posts, just found it so hard to believe someone with a ST an goes to so many away games, didn't have a clue about loyalty points, especially considering he's posting views on a thread about final tickets and loyalty points.

Could the disruptive views and posts be based on the fact we have struggled since Feb? Are new posters not allowed to state facts and feelings?

Why shiuld a season ticket holder who goes all the time care about loyalty points? Theres obviously been no issue for him so why would he need to know?

[Albanian Hibs]

Not really I'm big and ugly enough to deal with it :greengrin

So many new members this past month or so with so many disruptive views and posts, just found it so hard to believe someone with a ST an goes to so many away games, didn't have a clue about loyalty points, especially considering he's posting views on a thread about final tickets and loyalty points.

My dad who is a st holder and goes to every away and cup game has no idea how many loyalty he has. I buy all our tickets.

[SJM]

i'm not mate just was ignorant when it came to the loyalty point scheme as it never effected me. I asked a question about how do i go about finding out how many i've got to get shot down by posters presuming i should know if i had STicket. Golden Fleece quickly summed up what i had to do and now i know ( my e-ticketing had to be activated) still though if you get 10 for home games and 5 for away games how have i amassed 428 points?

Semi finals and finals you get points also. I have 273 right now and i have no idea or really care how thdy accumulate this as long as i can get a ticket when i want. If not i might moan and look into it but i should be okay for raith falkirk and killie.

[Albanian Hibs]

i'm not mate just was ignorant when it came to the loyalty point scheme as it never effected me. I asked a question about how do i go about finding out how many i've got to get shot down by posters presuming i should know if i had STicket. Golden Fleece quickly summed up what i had to do and now i know ( my e-ticketing had to be activated) still though if you get 10 for home games and 5 for away games how have i amassed 428 points?

You wont get 10pts for a home game cause you get 180pts for a season ticket at start of season. You will get 5pts for every away game you have attended though. Plus 10pts for a home cup game if you dont have a ctu. Also if you had a season ticket last season that was another 180pts.

[pacoluna]

Semi finals and finals you get points also. I have 273 right now and i have no idea or really care how thdy accumulate this as long as i can get a ticket when i want. If not i might moan and look into it but i should be okay for raith falkirk and killie.

same I have never had any problems getting tickets so i have never had any reason to complain or inquire about how many " loyalty points " i have.

[Ozyhibby]

It's now dead easy to get a ticket. Just make a down payment on a season book for next season.


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[pacoluna]

You wont get 10pts for a home game cause you get 180pts for a season ticket at start of season. You will get 5pts for every away game you have attended though. Plus 10pts for a home cup game if you dont have a ctu. Also if you had a season ticket last season that was another 180pts.

I understand now :thumbsup: cheers

[HNA2]

Not really I'm big and ugly enough to deal with it :greengrin

So many new members this past month or so with so many disruptive views and posts, just found it so hard to believe someone with a ST an goes to so many away games, didn't have a clue about loyalty points, especially considering he's posting views on a thread about final tickets and loyalty points.

So rather than try and out them and,like so many others recently, be proved wrong and look a right trumpet why don't you do as we constantly suggest and alert us to your suspicions then move on instead of keep digging?

[cabbageandribs1875]

So rather than try and out them and,like so many others recently, be proved wrong and look a right trumpet why don't you do as we constantly suggest and alert us to your suspicions then move on instead of keep digging?



post of the day :agree:

[GordonHFC]

You wont get 10pts for a home game cause you get 180pts for a season ticket at start of season. You will get 5pts for every away game you have attended though. Plus 10pts for a home cup game if you dont have a ctu. Also if you had a season ticket last season that was another 180pts.

You will if you buy another ticket for the game. I have been buying tickets on and off throughout the season for my Daughter who is not registered on the system and I get 10 points everytime I buy her a ticket. I became a ST holder this season and I have 320 loyalty points.

[green&left]

The old Rangers did it previously for the match at Easter Road where they won the league, so there is every chance that new Rangers will do it for a cup final.

60% chance of a ticket in Rangers end or 100% chance of ticket in Hibs end .. that's very tempting odds for a zombie

According to a hun colleague if you were successful in the ballot for them v Celtic in the semi finals, you are being excluded for the ballot for the final against us. ER could be a sellout this Sunday :greengrin

[green&left]

All Hibs need to do is add a second wave of 99+ and this whole issue is resolved, seems a no brainer

First Wave - Season tickets
Second Wave - 99+ points
Third wave - 1+ points
General sale

I suspect Hibs have done some maths that if you have 1 point or more you are guaranteed a ticket?

Take out say 13000 season ticket tickets leave 8000. Will we have had 8000 additional fans that would've went to a game this season, bearing in mind the semi-finals and finals we've been involved in already didn't reward any points?

[NAE NOOKIE]

Just wish there was another rugby game on to give me a better chance of a ticket.

Ha ha ha ..... brilliant :faf:

Many a true word spoken in jest as they say :greengrin

[Jonny1875]

I know this might be a silly question but i am able to get a ticket in the second wave. ( Not a ST holder as from and live in Ireland) However as im only able to get one in this wave and if i want to get one more in the general sale is there anyway to get two seats beside eachother? Bit confused. :confused:

[green day]

The old Rangers did it previously for the match at Easter Road where they won the league, so there is every chance that new Rangers will do it for a cup final.

60% chance of a ticket in Rangers end or 100% chance of ticket in Hibs end .. that's very tempting odds for a zombie

Ask yourself if you would want to watch a cup final among THEM? Almost to a man they would rather watch it in a boozer in whichever Lanarkshire hellhole they live - with their mates.

Its also not a 100% chance of a ticket either - if it was, would loads on here be whining about it??

And I come back to my previous point.

Huns at a cup final in our end is very very different to that league game - they will get a pasting if they are outed and they will be well aware of it.

Should any be daft enough to do it and get a doing, I have zero sympathy (of course I don't advocate violence, etc etc).

As an aside, has anyone actually emailed Hibs about this to see if they had thought about this issue?

[StevieC]

I suspect Hibs have done some maths that if you have 1 point or more you are guaranteed a ticket?

I'm not so sure that's the case.

Based on figures previously released, there are around 20,000 supporters with 1+ points on the database. If renewing season ticket holders are allowed 2 tickets then that could add anything from 5-8,000 to that number.

And, based on figures released, that would mean 3,000 supporters with 90+ points being added to another 10,000 on the database for the second wave. 13,000 supporters trying for around 6,000 tickets.

If everyone on the database tries to get a ticket then there will be supporters that will miss out. The frustrating thing is that some of those supporters missing out could have in excess of 300 loyalty points!

[NAE NOOKIE]

According to a hun colleague if you were successful in the ballot for them v Celtic in the semi finals, you are being excluded for the ballot for the final against us. ER could be a sellout this Sunday :greengrin

I can see what Hibs have done now. Chuck the bait in the water, hook a couple of hundred currant buns and then on Monday morning change the 2nd wave to folk with 20 points or more ..... genius http://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/thumbs%20up.gif

[CallumLaidlaw]

Ask yourself if you would want to watch a cup final among THEM? Almost to a man they would rather watch it in a boozer in whichever Lanarkshire hellhole they live - with their mates.

Its also not a 100% chance of a ticket either - if it was, would loads on here be whining about it??

And I come back to my previous point.

Huns at a cup final in our end is very very different to that league game - they will get a pasting if they are outed and they will be well aware of it.

Should any be daft enough to do it and get a doing, I have zero sympathy (of course I don't advocate violence, etc etc).

As an aside, has anyone actually emailed Hibs about this to see if they had thought about this issue?

Done it this morning. :aok:

[StevieC]

Ask yourself if you would want to watch a cup final among THEM? Almost to a man they would rather watch it in a boozer in whichever Lanarkshire hellhole they live - with their mates.

Personally, no. But I know of Hibs fans that went in the Rangers end at Ibrox a few years back, when we only had that small section in the main stand (stadium development?). I also know that there WERE Rangers fans in the Hibs ends at Easter Road the year they won the league there.

You're right, the vast majority wont be anywhere near the Hibs end, but there will be some in there of that I'm pretty certain. They will sit on their hands during the game, but you can guarantee that if they win they will be trying to get into the Rangers ends after the full time whistle. The point though, they will have deprived a Hibs supporter (however loyal) from getting a ticket for the game.


Its also not a 100% chance of a ticket either - if it was, would loads on here be whining about it??

I've finally got round to doing some calculations, and you are right. If everyone on the database tries for a ticket then there will be some that miss out, so my 100% statement was incorrect.

[Hiber-nation]

I know this might be a silly question but i am able to get a ticket in the second wave. ( Not a ST holder as from and live in Ireland) However as im only able to get one in this wave and if i want to get one more in the general sale is there anyway to get two seats beside eachother? Bit confused. :confused:

Afraid not. If you need 2 together you'll need to get them on the general sale.

[Speedy]

There is no need for further waves, we have loads of tickets. The club got this right.

Using that argument, did we need a wave for season ticket holders?

[marinello59]

Using that argument, did we need a wave for season ticket holders?

You could argue not. My point would be the waves are best kept to a minimum if only due to time constraints. If they ain't needed don't have them.

[3pm]

Will Hibs still add new customer details to the database at this stage?

I suppose if 6000 Rangers fans come along and register for the 1st time, you'd like to think we'd say 'no'.

[dangermouse]

All this talk of scrapping the points system is a bit daft as it puts us back to square one for regular walk ups when tickets are in short supply. The club may have got the points threshold wrong, only time will tell.

I'm tempted to start a thread when the Sold Out notice goes up called "I never got a cup final ticket because..." :greengrin

[JennaFletcher]

Anyone been in touch with the club regarding lack of Wave 2: 90+ Loyalty Points?

Would be interesting to hear the response.

[SunshineOnLeith]

170 points and in Wave 1. Well done Hibs :aok:

[J-C]

Done it this morning. :aok:


Same here but no reply yet.

[Libby Hibby]

Will Hibs still add new customer details to the database at this stage?

I suppose if 6000 Rangers fans come along and register for the 1st time, you'd like to think we'd say 'no'.

I know, it would be rather silly to allow an influx of Glasgow postcodes at this stage

[hibsdaft]

I know, it would be rather silly to allow an influx of Glasgow postcodes at this stage


As we know only too well, there are Huns everywhere.

And there are also plenty Hibees in Glasgow who we should not and can not discriminate against.

[CallumLaidlaw]

As we know only too well, there are Huns everywhere.

And there are also plenty Hibees in Glasgow who we should not and can not discriminate against.

I would be tempted to say, if you're not on the database now, then you can't apply for a cup final ticket. We had 30,000 manage to get tickets for the League cup and seeing as the database goes back a number of years, you'd think if someone wasn't on it yet, it would be strange for them all of a sudden to pop up for the Queen Of the South game. If a genuine Hibby isn't on the database yet, surely they'd have a mate that was that could get their ticket. No one could really moan considering half of Rangers season ticket holders can't even get a ticket.

[hibsdaft]

I would be tempted to say, if you're not on the database now, then you can't apply for a cup final ticket. We had 30,000 manage to get tickets for the League cup and seeing as the database goes back a number of years, you'd think if someone wasn't on it yet, it would be strange for them all of a sudden to pop up for the Queen Of the South game. If a genuine Hibby isn't on the database yet, surely they'd have a mate that was that could get their ticket. No one could really moan considering half of Rangers season ticket holders can't even get a ticket.

I agree with that. The website didn't mention a cut-off date but maybe they will in fact use one.

[Waxy]

We need a bigger national stadium. The place is not worthy.

[GordonHFC]

I would be tempted to say, if you're not on the database now, then you can't apply for a cup final ticket. We had 30,000 manage to get tickets for the League cup and seeing as the database goes back a number of years, you'd think if someone wasn't on it yet, it would be strange for them all of a sudden to pop up for the Queen Of the South game. If a genuine Hibby isn't on the database yet, surely they'd have a mate that was that could get their ticket. No one could really moan considering half of Rangers season ticket holders can't even get a ticket.

Can't see them doing this if they are trying to encourage newbie Season Card Holders for 2016/17 and offering them a guaranteed ticket for the Final.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Can't see them doing this if they are trying to encourage newbie Season Card Holders for 2016/17 and offering them a guaranteed ticket for the Final.

Well, I'm sure they'd make an exception if someone was prepared to spend £360 on a season ticket.

[Golden Bear]

Can't see them doing this if they are trying to encourage newbie Season Card Holders for 2016/17 and offering them a guaranteed ticket for the Final.

I doubt if even the maddest of Huns would consider stumping up the cash for a Hibs Season ticket on the pretence of acquiring a cup final ticket in the Hibs end.

[Billy Whizz]

Had a coffee with a former work colleague today, supports Rangers. He's on the Hibs database, as he went to the play off last year, Hibs v Rangers at Easter Rd, we only gave them 1,800 tickets. Wonder how many more are in the same boat

[GordonHFC]

I doubt if even the maddest of Huns would consider stumping up the cash for a Hibs Season ticket on the pretence of acquiring a cup final ticket in the Hibs end.

I never thought they would. I was commenting on the suggestion of not being allowed a ticket for the Final if you are not currently on the database.

[GreenLake]

Had a coffee with a former work colleague today, supports Rangers. He's on the Hibs database, as he went to the play off last year, Hibs v Rangers at Easter Rd, we only gave them 1,800 tickets. Wonder how many more are in the same boat

Are you going to point him out if you see him at the final sitting amongst us?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo

[Just Jimmy]

Had a coffee with a former work colleague today, supports Rangers. He's on the Hibs database, as he went to the play off last year, Hibs v Rangers at Easter Rd, we only gave them 1,800 tickets. Wonder how many more are in the same boat
Fair but surely the ones we sold to for the rangers end were marked on the dB as buying for the rangers end? That would have been stupid if hibs hadn't. Even for game at er

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[HibsMax]

One notable difference this time round is that they have not made any distinction between UK and overseas Hibs TV subscribers and don't seem to be offering International Hibs TV subscribers travelling back from overseas a ticket, as they have always done in previous years.

When wave 2 starts, for example, a Hibs TV subscriber in Leith and a Hibs TV subscriber in Australia thinking of coming over, and a fan who registers now, as loads of folk will probably do (including The Rangers fans who go to the QotS game?!) will have the same chance of getting a ticket. That chance will come on May 12th, just 9 days before the game. The overseas Hibs TV subscriber contingent is very, very small (maybe 30-40 people at the very most? Possibly even less?) and, IMHO, :greengrin, I always thought it was a decent gesture to offer a single ticket to Hibs TV subscribers coming from the other side of the world (especially as that included me!) given the distance and expense involved. I think this will give a few folk a problem with deciding whether or not to get flights etc. As I said, I'm not arguing those fans like myself are any more deserving, and I was careful with my words earlier: it was a "decent gesture", not an expectation, but we buy a digital ST and watch all the games too. I'll be honest, I'm a bit disappointed they haven't taken it into account this time too. I was in Brazil until last year and a flight back from Lisbon won't be the end of the world if I can't get a ticket in the end. However, if I was one of those lads in the States, or Australia, wondering about buying a flight without knowing for sure...? Hmmm. Just my thoughts on it. Not everyone will be happy, but I do hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.

I think that Hibs TV international subscribers should be included in wave 1. Nobody else is getting two tickets so even though I think it would be nice to have two so I could sit with my Dad, I will settle as this point for just getting a ticket. People traveling from afar for the game are not more important than any other fans but I think that the number of fans traveling is going to be sufficiently low that they could accommodate us in the first wave. I am sure they have number from previous Cups. I traveled back for Hearts and Celtic and didn't fear getting a ticket. This time I am not so sure. The Hibs hospitality tickets are gone. I do have another offer to consider but that won't last forever.

[HibsMax]

It's now dead easy to get a ticket. Just make a down payment on a season book for next season.


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Is that an option for Hibs TV subscribers too? I don't see that listed on the Hibs TV page. If I could renew for next season to get an opportunity for 2 tickets, I would, but it doesn't seem like Hibs are thinking about ALL season tickets.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Is that an option for Hibs TV subscribers too? I don't see that listed on the Hibs TV page. If I could renew for next season to get an opportunity for 2 tickets, I would, but it doesn't seem like Hibs are thinking about ALL season tickets.

I don't think Hibs TV subscribers would get two. Hardly fair if you attend no games (Due to Location), then get two for a Cup Final IMO

[HibsMax]

I don't think Hibs TV subscribers would get two. Hardly fair if you attend no games (Due to Location), then get two for a Cup Final IMO
I'm not talking about 2 tickets per subscription, I'm talking about 1 ticket for this year's, and one ticket for next year's (same as they are doing for regular season ticket holders). I do appreciate that regular season tickets cost more than Hibs TV. I just think the number of international Hibs TV subscribers will make up less than 0.5% of the overall demand. Seems like an easy gesture to make without upsetting the apple cart. We're talking about maybe 50 tickets.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm not talking about 2 tickets per subscription, I'm talking about 1 ticket for this year's, and one ticket for next year's (same as they are doing for regular season ticket holders). I do appreciate that regular season tickets cost more than Hibs TV. I just think the number of international Hibs TV subscribers will make up less than 0.5% of the overall demand. Seems like an easy gesture to make without upsetting the apple cart. We're talking about maybe 50 tickets.

I knew you were talking about two after renewing. Don't think it would be fair, assumming you hardly go to games (Location) but want two for a major Final.....

[MKHIBEE]

I'm not so sure that's the case.

Based on figures previously released, there are around 20,000 supporters with 1+ points on the database. If renewing season ticket holders are allowed 2 tickets then that could add anything from 5-8,000 to that number.

And, based on figures released, that would mean 3,000 supporters with 90+ points being added to another 10,000 on the database for the second wave. 13,000 supporters trying for around 6,000 tickets.

If everyone on the database tries to get a ticket then there will be supporters that will miss out. The frustrating thing is that some of those supporters missing out could have in excess of 300 loyalty points!

Whether or not everyone on the database who wants a ticket gets one will more than likely be dependent on how many of the season ticket holders 2nd tickets are given to those not on the database.I would imagine most who get tickets from a season ticket holder will be on the database although I could be well wide of the mark here

[lyonhibs]

Fair but surely the ones we sold to for the rangers end were marked on the dB as buying for the rangers end? That would have been stupid if hibs hadn't. Even for game at er

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I assume he means his Hun mate got a ticket from Hibs in the Hibs end as we only gave them 1800 tickets??

[SunshineOnLeith]

I'm not talking about 2 tickets per subscription, I'm talking about 1 ticket for this year's, and one ticket for next year's (same as they are doing for regular season ticket holders). I do appreciate that regular season tickets cost more than Hibs TV. I just think the number of international Hibs TV subscribers will make up less than 0.5% of the overall demand. Seems like an easy gesture to make without upsetting the apple cart. We're talking about maybe 50 tickets.

I'm inclined to agree but the problem would be upsetting a a few hundred folk who don't see it that way for the sake of less than 50 people. I think giving you all one ticket each is probably the correct compromise between making a nice gesture, and risking annoying more people than it helps.

[Just Jimmy]

I assume he means his Hun mate got a ticket from Hibs in the Hibs end as we only have them 1800 tickets??
Yeah maybe. I took it as they were all on the database because we sold direct. How many will this actually be however.

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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I'm not talking about 2 tickets per subscription, I'm talking about 1 ticket for this year's, and one ticket for next year's (same as they are doing for regular season ticket holders). I do appreciate that regular season tickets cost more than Hibs TV. I just think the number of international Hibs TV subscribers will make up less than 0.5% of the overall demand. Seems like an easy gesture to make without upsetting the apple cart. We're talking about maybe 50 tickets.

Apart from the fact that this would suit your situation do you really think its fair to be put into wave 1 ahead of folk with loads of loyalty pts that don't have a ST?

[DH1875]

Had a coffee with a former work colleague today, supports Rangers. He's on the Hibs database, as he went to the play off last year, Hibs v Rangers at Easter Rd, we only gave them 1,800 tickets. Wonder how many more are in the same boat

In order to get a ticket in the Hibs end for that game he would have already had to be on the database so that doesn't make much sense.

[Keith_M]

In order to get a ticket in the Hibs end for that game he would have already had to be on the database so that doesn't make much sense.


Can't they just register now then buy a ticket?


:dunno:

[DH1875]

I'm inclined to agree but the problem would be upsetting a a few hundred folk who don't see it that way for the sake of less than 50 people. I think giving you all one ticket each is probably the correct compromise between making a nice gesture, and risking annoying more people than it helps.

You honestly think overseas fans should get 2 tickets for cup finals :confused:

[DH1875]

Can't they just register now then buy a ticket?


:dunno:

Yeah if they buy for the QOS game. We're talking about last years playoff game though.

[SunshineOnLeith]

You honestly think overseas fans should get 2 tickets for cup finals :confused:

I agree that it would be such a small number of tickets that it could simply be thought of as a good will gesture.

I don't particularly care whether they get any kind of priority/allocation or not.

[CropleyWasGod]

Can't they just register now then buy a ticket?


:dunno:

I've just done it for my old man. He has been a to a few games this season, but has never seen the need to be on the database. Until now :greengrin

Presumably, come Monday, he will have sufficient points for the Final.

[HibsMax]

Apart from the fact that this would suit your situation do you really think its fair to be put into wave 1 ahead of folk with loads of loyalty pts that don't have a ST?

I don't really want to get into the loyalty points debate because of all the reasons already listed here; I think Hibs got it wrong there.

[HibsMax]

I knew you were talking about two after renewing. Don't think it would be fair, assumming you hardly go to games (Location) but want two for a major Final.....

Why do people who renew their season ticket for NEXT year get preferential treatment for a game taking place THIS year? If Hibs get to next year's Cup Final, they will again get preferential treatment so are in effect double dipping.

If this is ALL about money, I'll pay more (but that option is not available to me either).

[The Green Goblin]

I agree that it would be such a small number of tickets that it could simply be thought of as a good will gesture.

I don't particularly care whether they get any kind of priority/allocation or not.

Yup, they have always done it in the past for international HTV subscribers coming from far flung places. One ticket each. Not this time though. Pretty sure the number was around 25-30 total, so, a good will gesture, as you said. :aok:

[GreenLake]

I would have liked to see about 10 tickets up for auction in the benefit of Hibernian Community Foundation. See how much ten people who really want a Cup Final ticket are willing to pay. :greengrin

It would probably be against SFA or UK regulations.

[SunshineOnLeith]

If this is ALL about money, I'll pay more (but that option is not available to me either).

That's not strictly true, you could buy a season ticket for 16/17 regardless of the fact you wouldn't be able to use it.

[Andy74]

Why do people who renew their season ticket for NEXT year get preferential treatment for a game taking place THIS year? If Hibs get to next year's Cup Final, they will again get preferential treatment so are in effect double dipping.

If this is ALL about money, I'll pay more (but that option is not available to me either).

It's not preferential treatment it is something that comes with your purchase of a season ticket.

I think it is sensible to allow a further ticket for a renewal - from both a maximising the support and money for next year and a thank you point of view.

[Michael]

Does it say on your online account anywhere which wave you're eligible for?

[Nicho87]

Just bought a season ticket after joining network. Take it i will just login wednesday an get a final ticket?

[LustForLeith]

If I've got a season ticket and over one loyalty point, could I buy one ticket on Wednesday then buy another ticket the following Thursday when the allocation is open to those with one point or more?

[Waxy]

If I've got a season ticket and over one loyalty point, could I buy one ticket on Wednesday then buy another ticket the following Thursday when the allocation is open to those with one point or more?

No

[BS44]

Just bought a season ticket after joining network. Take it i will just login wednesday an get a final ticket?

If you have a registered online account then you're good to go. Be prepared to wait in the online queue next week though, there's gonna be a load of us on vying for the best seats

[Nicho87]

If you have a registered online account then you're good to go. Be prepared to wait in the online queue next week though, there's gonna be a load of us on vying for the best seats

Thanks for reply. My loyalty points is zero as this seasons points dont count i assume as i was just a walk up.

[LustForLeith]

No

Cheers. Should really have read the not so small print..!

[SunshineOnLeith]

Thanks for reply. My loyalty points is zero as this seasons points dont count i assume as i was just a walk up.

If you're a regular walk up and haven't been collecting points then you've got nobody to blame but yourself.

[HibsMax]

That's not strictly true, you could buy a season ticket for 16/17 regardless of the fact you wouldn't be able to use it.

I have done that in the past although that was many years ago and not for the purposes of securing a ticket to another game.

[Carheenlea]

Why do people who renew their season ticket for NEXT year get preferential treatment for a game taking place THIS year? If Hibs get to next year's Cup Final, they will again get preferential treatment so are in effect double dipping.

If this is ALL about money, I'll pay more (but that option is not available to me either).

Those fans who have renewed their Season Tickets effectively have two season tickets - one for this season and one for next. And in many cases paid in full.

[HibsMax]

It's not preferential treatment it is something that comes with your purchase of a season ticket.

I think it is sensible to allow a further ticket for a renewal - from both a maximising the support and money for next year and a thank you point of view.

I'm not arguing about the contribution that Hibs season ticket holders make to the club - I want to be upfront and clear about that before anyone minces my words (like that ever happens around here...)

I think you missed my point about double dipping though. A 2016 Season Ticket gets a fan a ticket for this year's cup final and next years too, should we make it of course. It's not the same as getting two tickets for this year's final, but it does amount to two tickets off the same book. Fans are being rewarded this year, and they will be rewarded again next year - they're getting two Thank Yous.

Strange as it might seem after having said all of that, I don't actually mind season ticket holders getting 1 for this year and 1 for next. What I do mind is the fact that people like me have been bumped down to the second wave and it wasn't like that before. We've been relegated.

[HibsMax]

Those fans who have renewed their Season Tickets effectively have two season tickets - one for this season and one for next. And in many cases paid in full.
I understand that but I think I've made my point in enough other posts.

[we are hibs]

If you're a regular walk up and haven't been collecting points then you've got nobody to blame but yourself.



Not everyone can be as loyal as you eh.

[Onceinawhile]

Not everyone can be as loyal as you eh.

A? He's not scoring points about loyalty, he's merely pointing out that if you haven't followed the rules of the loyalty point scheme then it's your fault you don't have points, no one else's.

[CapitalGreen]

Not everyone can be as loyal as you eh.

Re-read what he was replying to

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What I do mind is the fact that people like me have been bumped down to the second wave and it wasn't like that before.

Perhaps it should have been. :dunno:

[Nicho87]

If you're a regular walk up and haven't been collecting points then you've got nobody to blame but yourself.
Easy princess i never blamed anyone.

[Andy74]

Perhaps it should have been. :dunno:

If a Hibs tv subscription gave the same right to tickets as a season ticket then that was wrong and I'd be glad if that's been changed.

[Sergey]

I'm not arguing about the contribution that Hibs season ticket holders make to the club - I want to be upfront and clear about that before anyone minces my words (like that ever happens around here...)

I think you missed my point about double dipping though. A 2016 Season Ticket gets a fan a ticket for this year's cup final and next years too, should we make it of course. It's not the same as getting two tickets for this year's final, but it does amount to two tickets off the same book. Fans are being rewarded this year, and they will be rewarded again next year - they're getting two Thank Yous.

Strange as it might seem after having said all of that, I don't actually mind season ticket holders getting 1 for this year and 1 for next. What I do mind is the fact that people like me have been bumped down to the second wave and it wasn't like that before. We've been relegated.

Max - You're sorted, pal :aok:

Just drop me an email per the PM I sent you and you have prime seats.

Apologies in advance as Blackpool Hibs is party to the company, but beggars and all that...

[The Green Goblin]

If a Hibs tv subscription gave the same right to tickets as a season ticket then that was wrong and I'd be glad if that's been changed.

It wasn't a Hibs TV subscription he's talking about though. He's talking about the way that the club kept maybe 30-ish tickets aside to give to International Hibs TV subscribers (not UK Hibs TV subscribers) who were travelling back for the game, most of them from the other side of the world.

[Andy74]

It wasn't a Hibs TV subscription he's talking about though. He's talking about the way that the club kept maybe 30-ish tickets aside to give to International Hibs TV subscribers (not UK Hibs TV subscribers) who were travelling back for the game, most of them from the other side of the world.

So if anyone wants to talk about preferential treatment...

I can see why its a nice thing to do for them but it walk over the benefits that others have to pay up for or earn through attending a number of matches.

[blackpoolhibs]

Max - You're sorted, pal :aok:

Just drop me an email per the PM I sent you and you have prime seats.

Apologies in advance as Blackpool Hibs is party to the company, but beggars and all that...


:na na:

[JennaFletcher]

It wasn't a Hibs TV subscription he's talking about though. He's talking about the way that the club kept maybe 30-ish tickets aside to give to International Hibs TV subscribers (not UK Hibs TV subscribers) who were travelling back for the game, most of them from the other side of the world.

Probably because it gives the club more press time. Hardly a cup final goes by without at least two Hibs fans from LA/Aus being featured on STV or in Evening News.

I reckon Hibs will maybe open up a new wave next week, perhaps the next few days are just to boost ST sales. :confused:

[SJM]

Probably because it gives the club more press time. Hardly a cup final goes by without at least two Hibs fans from LA/Aus being featured on STV or in Evening News.

I reckon Hibs will maybe open up a new wave next week, perhaps the next few days are just to boost ST sales. :confused:


False advertising and basically conning fans intomgetting seasons? Cant see it like.

[hibee]

False advertising and basically conning fans intomgetting seasons? Cant see it like.

They do something like this most seasons though whether it's extend early bird date or have a payment plan deadline then bring out a new payment plan later.

As long as they secure more season ticket holders it's ok but could be taken a different way by fans who have signed up early.

[The Green Goblin]

So if anyone wants to talk about preferential treatment...

I can see why its a nice thing to do for them but it walk over the benefits that others have to pay up for or earn through attending a number of matches.

You could argue that it is "preferential treatment", certainly, and that technically, an advantage is being given. If upholding the principle of who has priority at all costs, without any exceptions is the most important thing, then yes, that shouldn't happen.

You could also argue that the club should be able to find around 30 tickets out of 21000, for people who will spend thousands of pounds and several days travelling to come back for it. One person's "preferential treatment" is another's "consideration in exceptional circumstances"?

It is worth pointing out that this offer is not for nothing in return. The price for an International Hibs TV subscription has reduced a lot in recent years, but a few years back, I remember paying nearly 200 pounds for a Hibs TV digital season ticket and I watched all the games every week. Now, it is around 110 pounds (for a vastly superior product too) which is not on a par with a full season ticket, but not a million miles away from a half season ticket. It is still a form of regular financial committment to the club in return for watching the games.

A final point to consider - the tradition of helping overseas fans with a ticket is what has happened for years now and I have never seen one person resenting that or criticising the club for that, on here or anywhere else.

[Ringothedog]

As I am on the Huns database I wonder if I should try and get a ticket in their end ? Could then do a swap with a zombie who has bought one in our end.

[SJM]

They do something like this most seasons though whether it's extend early bird date or have a payment plan deadline then bring out a new payment plan later.

As long as they secure more season ticket holders it's ok but could be taken a different way by fans who have signed up early.


Agree 👍🏻

[GreenLake]

You could argue that it is "preferential treatment", certainly, and that technically, an advantage is being given. If upholding the principle of who has priority at all costs, without any exceptions is the most important thing, then yes, that shouldn't happen.

You could also argue that the club should be able to find around 30 tickets out of 21000, for people who will spend thousands of pounds and several days travelling to come back for it. One person's "preferential treatment" is another's "consideration in exceptional circumstances"?

It is worth pointing out that this offer is not for nothing in return. The price for an International Hibs TV subscription has reduced a lot in recent years, but a few years back, I remember paying nearly 200 pounds for a Hibs TV digital season ticket and I watched all the games every week. Now, it is around 110 pounds (for a vastly superior product too) which is not on a par with a full season ticket, but not a million miles away from a half season ticket. It is still a form of regular financial committment to the club in return for watching the games.

A final point to consider - the tradition of helping overseas fans with a ticket is what has happened for years now and I have never seen one person resenting that or criticising the club for that, on here or anywhere else.

One of the problems faced by International fans is that flight prices increase as time gets closer to travel. The risk would be to book an expensive flight and then not get a ticket. Holding back until less than 30 days before takeoff means close to maximum prices or perhaps even worse, fully booked flights.

I hope everyone who wants a ticket gets one. It is a horrible situation made worse by a shameful national stadium capacity.

[IberianHibernian]

You could argue that it is "preferential treatment", certainly, and that technically, an advantage is being given. If upholding the principle of who has priority at all costs, without any exceptions is the most important thing, then yes, that shouldn't happen.

You could also argue that the club should be able to find around 30 tickets out of 21000, for people who will spend thousands of pounds and several days travelling to come back for it. One person's "preferential treatment" is another's "consideration in exceptional circumstances"?

It is worth pointing out that this offer is not for nothing in return. The price for an International Hibs TV subscription has reduced a lot in recent years, but a few years back, I remember paying nearly 200 pounds for a Hibs TV digital season ticket and I watched all the games every week. Now, it is around 110 pounds (for a vastly superior product too) which is not on a par with a full season ticket, but not a million miles away from a half season ticket. It is still a form of regular financial committment to the club in return for watching the games.

A final point to consider - the tradition of helping overseas fans with a ticket is what has happened for years now and I have never seen one person resenting that or criticising the club for that, on here or anywhere else.Agreed . At times of 2012 and 2013 finals we were paying nearly 200 pounds a year upfront ( and more for away games and I think some home cup games too ) . Price has been reduced and club has asked for money later ( most subscribers would happily renew now like ER STHs if asked ) in last couple of years but still more than a child`s oo maybe even student`s half ST . I`d also bet that contributions to HSL ( normal shares not available to overseas fans at time of HSL launch ) , Kicks For Kids and merchandise are proportionately higher than for fans who liver nearer to Edinburgh . Anyway , by now some who intend to travel will already have bought expensive hospitality packages and everyone appreciates ticket staff have a lot of work so hopefully everyone who wants a ticket whether they live in Leith or Australia will get one and when things have settled down club can consider setting up a membership for " distant " fans (including people in Ireland , England etc who can`t watch Hibs TV live ) which combines TV with some kind of priority for matches .

[HibbyScott]

Agreed . At times of 2012 and 2013 finals we were paying nearly 200 pounds a year upfront ( and more for away games and I think some home cup games too ) . Price has been reduced and club has asked for money later ( most subscribers would happily renew now like ER STHs if asked ) in last couple of years but still more than a child`s oo maybe even student`s half ST . I`d also bet that contributions to HSL ( normal shares not available to overseas fans at time of HSL launch ) , Kicks For Kids and merchandise are proportionately higher than for fans who liver nearer to Edinburgh . Anyway , by now some who intend to travel will already have bought expensive hospitality packages and everyone appreciates ticket staff have a lot of work so hopefully everyone who wants a ticket whether they live in Leith or Australia will get one and when things have settled down club can consider setting up a membership for " distant " fans (including people in Ireland , England etc who can`t watch Hibs TV live ) which combines TV with some kind of priority for matches .

There used to be a membership which I think only ran for 1 or 2 seasons which included a level of priority below STs. At the time I was a ST holder so never really paid that much attention to it, but nowadays living down south, I would happily pay £X up front or £X a month, however Hibs decided to do it to be part of some sort of membership group!

[My_Wife_Camille]

This thread is tremendous. The outrage from the serial non attenders is just as funny as it was predictable!

Great decision making from Hibs on this one imo

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

There used to be a membership which I think only ran for 1 or 2 seasons which included a level of priority below STs. At the time I was a ST holder so never really paid that much attention to it, but nowadays living down south, I would happily pay £X up front or £X a month, however Hibs decided to do it to be part of some sort of membership group!

I remember that.

I wonder why that was scrapped - anyone know, seemed a good idea?

[IberianHibernian]

There used to be a membership which I think only ran for 1 or 2 seasons which included a level of priority below STs. At the time I was a ST holder so never really paid that much attention to it, but nowadays living down south, I would happily pay £X up front or £X a month, however Hibs decided to do it to be part of some sort of membership group! Yes 25 pounds a year I think but didn`t last long . There seem to be quite a few fans who travel to some games from England , Ireland ,Shetland etc who might have difficulty getting tickets for final though with 1 point wave people who`ve been to every match but don`t have a season ticket could also have the same problem so i suppose that brings us back to a loyalty points debate .

[CallumLaidlaw]

I've always thought that a 10 match ticket would be a good idea. Maybe give a slight discount - make it say £180-£200 and allow some or all category A games. Would suit people that couldn't commit to every single game but still wanted to make a commitment, and would give the club money up front. They could maybe have a seat reserved and if they didnt take up the option of it by a fortnight before the game, then the seat would be released. I'm sure there are plenty flaws in the idea, but it seems like an option that could be looked at. I'm sure there must be other clubs that do something similar.

[J-C]

Max - You're sorted, pal :aok:

Just drop me an email per the PM I sent you and you have prime seats.

Apologies in advance as Blackpool Hibs is party to the company, but beggars and all that...


:faf:

[marinello59]

I've always thought that a 10 match ticket would be a good idea. Maybe give a slight discount - make it say £180-£200 and allow some or all category A games. Would suit people that couldn't commit to every single game but still wanted to make a commitment, and would give the club money up front. They could maybe have a seat reserved and if they didnt take up the option of it by a fortnight before the game, then the seat would be released. I'm sure there are plenty flaws in the idea, but it seems like an option that could be looked at. I'm sure there must be other clubs that do something similar.

I would ditch our three season tickets for a scheme like that where I was guaranteed savings rather than the situation we have just now where so many mid week games have left me paying more than walk up prices for the games we can actually attend.
That might be your flaw.:greengrin

[The Green Goblin]

This thread is tremendous.

I agree, there is some good discussion going on here. :aok:

[pacoluna]

This thread is tremendous. The outrage from the serial non attenders is just as funny as it was predictable!

Great decision making from Hibs on this one imo


slightly tedious in my opinion :wink:

[Waxy]

This thread is tremendous. The outrage from the serial non attenders is just as funny as it was predictable!

Great decision making from Hibs on this one imo
Serial non attenders 😂

[IberianHibernian]

This will be our 7th cup final of the century , so an average of nearly 1 every 2 years . We`ll probably go back to usual 1 or 2 per decade while hopefully challenging more in top division in coming years so debates about cup final ticket distribution will die down but don`t think club can afford to ignore " serial non attenders " ( not sure of exact definition but must include all but about 5000 Hibs fans I`m guessing ) so hopefully some kind of membership will be looked at .

[Andy74]

Agreed . At times of 2012 and 2013 finals we were paying nearly 200 pounds a year upfront ( and more for away games and I think some home cup games too ) . Price has been reduced and club has asked for money later ( most subscribers would happily renew now like ER STHs if asked ) in last couple of years but still more than a child`s oo maybe even student`s half ST . I`d also bet that contributions to HSL ( normal shares not available to overseas fans at time of HSL launch ) , Kicks For Kids and merchandise are proportionately higher than for fans who liver nearer to Edinburgh . Anyway , by now some who intend to travel will already have bought expensive hospitality packages and everyone appreciates ticket staff have a lot of work so hopefully everyone who wants a ticket whether they live in Leith or Australia will get one and when things have settled down club can consider setting up a membership for " distant " fans (including people in Ireland , England etc who can`t watch Hibs TV live ) which combines TV with some kind of priority for matches .

Why would those costs be higher for overseas fans? Travel certainly but that's your lookout - I'd expect that if I ever moved away from the area. Watching Hibs is one of the major reasons I wouldn't by the way.

I live close enough but on top of season tickets for this year and next for me and family I also have an HSL subscription, bought shares direct, buy merchandise for me and family and I pay for an international TV subscription so I can use it when I'm out and about too. I'm sure many are the same.

If I wanted to go and watch a game somewhere else in the world I can't imagine the fact I have to travel would get me very far when they have member schemes in place.

[Beefster]

So basically, the upshot of this thread is that most non-ST holders think that they should be in a category that gives them some kind of priority for the big games?

This is the sort of stuff that will lead to the loyalty point scheme being dumped and us going back to 'ST sale / general sale' for big games. The loyalty point scheme has just given lots of Hibs fans a false sense of entitlement and, more than likely, become a major pain in the arse for the club to administer and keep fielding queries / complaints for.

[Bobby's Cinema]

So basically, the upshot of this thread is that most non-ST holders think that they should be in a category that gives them some kind of priority for the big games?

This is the sort of stuff that will lead to the loyalty point scheme being dumped and us going back to 'ST sale / general sale' for big games. The loyalty point scheme has just given lots of Hibs fans a false sense of entitlement and, more than likely, become a major pain in the arse for the club to administer and keep fielding queries / complaints for.
I think those that have attended however many walk up games, in some cases 20+, have a right to expect more priority than the entire database being left to fight it out for tickets. It's the club who put the scheme in place, and supporters have bought into it, only for it not now to be implemented. It's not subtle what they are doing with regards trying to push STs, fans in this category are rightly feeling disregarded. Shocking treatment really, that's just an opinion, but others in my boat will feel the same. We are meant to be attracting this group back?

It's not that the bar has been set too high or too low in terms of loyalty points brackets. It's that the bar hasn't been set at all. Hibs have scrapped the loyalty point system for this game. It's season tickets holders only. And they've done it without telling us

[SJM]

I think those that have attended however many walk up games, in some cases 20+, have a right to expect more priority than the entire database being left to fight it out for tickets. It's the club who put the scheme in place, and supporters have bought into it, only for it not now to be implemented. It's not subtle what they are doing with regards trying to push STs, fans in this category are rightly feeling disregarded. Shocking treatment really, that's just an opinion, but others in my boat will feel the same. We are meant to be attracting this group back?

It's not that the bar has been set too high or too low in terms of loyalty points brackets. It's that the bar hasn't been set at all. Hibs have scrapped the loyalty point system for this game. It's season tickets holders only. And they've done it without telling us


Why is it shocking treatment and not fair? You pay to watch the hibs not for loyalty points in case we make a final surely?

[Andy74]

I think those that have attended however many walk up games, in some cases 20+, have a right to expect more priority than the entire database being left to fight it out for tickets. It's the club who put the scheme in place, and supporters have bought into it, only for it not now to be implemented. It's not subtle what they are doing with regards trying to push STs, fans in this category are rightly feeling disregarded. Shocking treatment really, that's just an opinion, but others in my boat will feel the same. We are meant to be attracting this group back?

It's not that the bar has been set too high or too low in terms of loyalty points brackets. It's that the bar hasn't been set at all. Hibs have scrapped the loyalty point system for this game. It's season tickets holders only. And they've done it without telling us

The second wave isn't a general sale, it is for the category you mention. If all season ticket holders renew, and buy both tickets, there will still be about 5,000 tickets left. The second tickets for season ticket holders need to go to someone so in reality, lots of people in that second wave will be sorted by then.

Seems plenty to cater for the small amount of walk ups we actually have.

[Beefster]

I think those that have attended however many walk up games, in some cases 20+, have a right to expect more priority than the entire database being left to fight it out for tickets. It's the club who put the scheme in place, and supporters have bought into it, only for it not now to be implemented. It's not subtle what they are doing with regards trying to push STs, fans in this category are rightly feeling disregarded. Shocking treatment really, that's just an opinion, but others in my boat will feel the same. We are meant to be attracting this group back?

It's not that the bar has been set too high or too low in terms of loyalty points brackets. It's that the bar hasn't been set at all. Hibs have scrapped the loyalty point system for this game. It's season tickets holders only. And they've done it without telling us

There are different levels of loyalty amongst ST holders too. Using your logic, why should an ST holder who goes to every away game only get to pick their seats at the same time as a 'home only' ST holder or someone who has never had a ST but decides to buy one for next season?

The entire argument is likely moot anyway. I suspect that folk are just going to have to get used to sales being STs and then 'on the database' in any event. Could be worse, Rangers can't even give tickets to all of their season tickets holders so their 'walk-ups' have no chance.

[hibee-boys]

There are different levels of loyalty amongst ST holders too. Using your logic, why should an ST holder who goes to every away game only get to pick their seats at the same time as a 'home only' ST holder or someone who has never had a ST but decides to buy one for next season?

The entire argument is likely moot anyway. I suspect that folk are just going to have to get used to sales being STs and then 'on the database' in any event. Could be worse, Rangers can't even give tickets to all of their season tickets holders so their 'walk-ups' have no chance.

Yeah, good point. Just as well the distribution of tickets is 50/50 and not based on average home gates, we'd be screwed. We're lucky to get 8,000 fans for a home game off late and some of us are bumping our gums about 'only' getting 21,000!

[DH1875]

Why is it shocking treatment and not fair? You pay to watch the hibs not for loyalty points in case we make a final surely?

No. I work on Saturdays and don't live in Edinburgh so have seen myself buying tickets just for the loyalty points i.e. I didn't go to the game.

[Big_Franck]

So basically, the upshot of this thread is that most non-ST holders think that they should be in a category that gives them some kind of priority for the big games?

This is the sort of stuff that will lead to the loyalty point scheme being dumped and us going back to 'ST sale / general sale' for big games. The loyalty point scheme has just given lots of Hibs fans a false sense of entitlement and, more than likely, become a major pain in the arse for the club to administer and keep fielding queries / complaints for.

Of course those that regularly attend games (but don't have a ST for whatever reason) should be given priority over those who never attend. It's what happened in the league cup final and should be what happens with every big game. Otherwise there is no point in the loyalty point scheme at all and it's all been a total waste of everyone's time.

[StevieC]

Seems that a lot of supporters are missing the point when it comes to the loyalty points.

Season ticket holders get priority, no argument with that. Season ticket holders that renew get an extra ticket, a bit of a marketing strategy but again no argument from me. Season ticket exclusivity in first wave, might have taken account of the die-hard walk-ups but they didn't so lets move on.

We then get to the next wave ..

My daughter is in the database, and has been to about 2 games in the last 5 years. For me to even try and say that she is of equal standing as someone that goes home and away and has in excess of 300 loyalty points is stretching it by any level of imagination. And yet if I'm quick enough in the online sale I can secure her a decent seat in the stadium and resign the other supporters to the back of the East Stand.

If I was that supporter I think I'd have a reasonable case to feel aggrieved.


This isn't about getting a ticket .. it's about trying to get a reasonable seat at the worst national stadium in Europe.

[Big_Franck]

Seems that a lot of supporters are missing the point when it comes to the loyalty points.

Season ticket holders get priority, no argument with that. Season ticket holders that renew get an extra ticket, a bit of a marketing strategy but again no argument from me. Season ticket exclusivity in first wave, might have taken account of the die-hard walk-ups but they didn't so lets move on.

We then get to the next wave ..

My daughter is in the database, and has been to about 2 games in the last 5 years. For me to even try and say that she is of equal standing as someone that goes home and away and has in excess of 300 loyalty points is stretching it by any level of imagination. And yet if I'm quick enough in the online sale I can secure her a decent seat in the stadium and resign the other supporters to the back of the East Stand.

If I was that supporter I think I'd have a reasonable case to feel aggrieved.


This isn't about getting a ticket .. it's about trying to get a reasonable seat at the worst national stadium in Europe.

They aren't missing your point at all, they are just deliberately choosing to ignore the point you make in your post so that they can defend the club's decision. If 'everyone who wants a ticket will get one' and it doesn't matter where you sit, why bother giving STs first pick?

[Since90+2]

Seems that a lot of supporters are missing the point when it comes to the loyalty points.

Season ticket holders get priority, no argument with that. Season ticket holders that renew get an extra ticket, a bit of a marketing strategy but again no argument from me. Season ticket exclusivity in first wave, might have taken account of the die-hard walk-ups but they didn't so lets move on.

We then get to the next wave ..

My daughter is in the database, and has been to about 2 games in the last 5 years. For me to even try and say that she is of equal standing as someone that goes home and away and has in excess of 300 loyalty points is stretching it by any level of imagination. And yet if I'm quick enough in the online sale I can secure her a decent seat in the stadium and resign the other supporters to the back of the East Stand.

If I was that supporter I think I'd have a reasonable case to feel aggrieved.


This isn't about getting a ticket .. it's about trying to get a reasonable seat at the worst national stadium in Europe.

Well said.

[TonyStokeprano]

Sorry if this has been covered in this thread. do hibs have any measures in place to stop rangers fans buying a ticket for the qots game on sunday then applying for cup final tickets in the hibs end ? i sure hope so

[Beefster]

They aren't missing your point at all, they are just deliberately choosing to ignore the point you make in your post so that they can defend the club's decision. If 'everyone who wants a ticket will get one' and it doesn't matter where you sit, why bother giving STs first pick?

I've already made the point that, if the issue is getting a good seat, that I had a horrendous seat for the LC final despite buying my ticket within 20 minutes on the first day of sales. Maybe some are deliberately choosing to ignore my post.

[Since90+2]

Sorry if this has been covered in this thread. do hibs have any measures in place to stop rangers fans buying a ticket for the qots game on sunday then applying for cup final tickets in the hibs end ? i sure hope so

A few folk on here have written to the club to ask this. I have not seen a reply posted here so would have to assume no response as yet.

[jgl07]

No. I work on Saturdays and don't live in Edinburgh so have seen myself buying tickets just for the loyalty points i.e. I didn't go to the game.
If you work on Saturdays you would not have missed many Hibs home matches this year. There have been two, both in January.

[StevieC]

I've already made the point that, if the issue is getting a good seat, that I had a horrendous seat for the LC final despite buying my ticket within 20 minutes on the first day of sales. Maybe some are deliberately choosing to ignore my post.

Where was your seat? And if the seat was horrendous, why take it?

Took me about 2 hours to get through online and the seat I got was fine. Not my first choice, but it was fine.
This was of course due to the fact that the club recognised loyalty points for the LC final.

[J-C]

I think a lot of people expected the 2nd wave to be for the more regular but not ST supporters, guys/girls going to 10+ games a season and gathering a good 100+ points per year, then there should be a 3rd wave for general sale. Unfortunately this has not been done and it just seems that loyalty points mean sod all when it comes to games like this, if you're not going to implement a point system then it should be scrapped.

[Geo_1875]

I think those that have attended however many walk up games, in some cases 20+, have a right to expect more priority than the entire database being left to fight it out for tickets. It's the club who put the scheme in place, and supporters have bought into it, only for it not now to be implemented. It's not subtle what they are doing with regards trying to push STs, fans in this category are rightly feeling disregarded. Shocking treatment really, that's just an opinion, but others in my boat will feel the same. We are meant to be attracting this group back?

It's not that the bar has been set too high or too low in terms of loyalty points brackets. It's that the bar hasn't been set at all. Hibs have scrapped the loyalty point system for this game. It's season tickets holders only. And they've done it without telling us

So how did you find out then?

[Lancs Harp]

How fortunate are we to be in a position to be having this discussion?

[Geo_1875]

I think a lot of people expected the 2nd wave to be for the more regular but not ST supporters, guys/girls going to 10+ games a season and gathering a good 100+ points per year, then there should be a 3rd wave for general sale. Unfortunately this has not been done and it just seems that loyalty points mean sod all when it comes to games like this, if you're not going to implement a point system then it should be scrapped.

They did mention a while back that the loyalty point scheme was being reconsidered. Probably because of all the bitching going on among those people who had been moaning for years about the lack of a loyalty scheme.

[jgl07]

A few folk on here have written to the club to ask this. I have not seen a reply posted here so would have to assume no response as yet.
The obvious answer is not to award points for the Queen of the South match to anyone not already on the database.

Many years ago Rangers had a big match (Championship decider?) at Tannadice. Rangers fans were being blocked from buying tickets for the home end if they were not on the database. A rumour was put around that buying any item online from the club shop would get you onto the database. A mad rush of orders came in for tangerine socks came in and were despatched to Huns throughout Scotland and beyond.

Of course it didn't get them on the database!

[Big_Franck]

I've already made the point that, if the issue is getting a good seat, that I had a horrendous seat for the LC final despite buying my ticket within 20 minutes on the first day of sales. Maybe some are deliberately choosing to ignore my post.

Even if that's true it's clearly not the norm though, is it?

I look forward to seeing the club's response to the emails sent. It will be interesting to see how they justify having one wave for STs and then what is effectively a free for all for everyone else.

[Since90+2]

The obvious answer is not to award points for the Queen of the South match to anyone not already on the database.

Many years ago Rangers had a big match (Championship decider?) at Tannadice. Rangers fans were being blocked from buying tickets for the home end if they were not on the database. A rumour was put around that buying any item online from the club shop would get you onto the database. A mad rush of orders came in for tangerine socks came in and were despatched to Huns throughout Scotland and beyond.

Of course it didn't get them on the database!

There was no mention that you can no longer get on the database for cup final tickets in the official announcement. Which means either :

1. The club overlooked the possibility of Rangers fans doing this.
2. They don't plan to put any restrictions on who can buy tickets.

[Beefster]

Where was your seat? And if the seat was horrendous, why take it?

Took me about 2 hours to get through online and the seat I got was fine. Not my first choice, but it was fine.
This was of course due to the fact that the club recognised loyalty points for the LC final.

I don't recall the exact section but it was down at the corner of the pitch, a few rows from the pitch. I took it because I don't really care where I sit at a cup final and I didn't have the time to be pissing about trying to trick the system into offering better seats or logging on repeatedly to see if things had changed. I get the argument about decent seats when it comes to STs (losing my seat would be a primary consideration if I ever thought about giving up the ST) but not really for a one-off game where we might win a trophy.


...if you're not going to implement a point system then it should be scrapped.

Which is probably what will happen for next season.

[CallumLaidlaw]

The obvious answer is not to award points for the Queen of the South match to anyone not already on the database.

Many years ago Rangers had a big match (Championship decider?) at Tannadice. Rangers fans were being blocked from buying tickets for the home end if they were not on the database. A rumour was put around that buying any item online from the club shop would get you onto the database. A mad rush of orders came in for tangerine socks came in and were despatched to Huns throughout Scotland and beyond.

Of course it didn't get them on the database!

Still, I'm sure many of them were quite happy to get a pair of socks that matched their usual wardrobe.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The obvious answer is not to award points for the Queen of the South match to anyone not already on the database.

Many years ago Rangers had a big match (Championship decider?) at Tannadice. Rangers fans were being blocked from buying tickets for the home end if they were not on the database. A rumour was put around that buying any item online from the club shop would get you onto the database. A mad rush of orders came in for tangerine socks came in and were despatched to Huns throughout Scotland and beyond.

Of course it didn't get them on the database!

This is what should happen .... its a health & safety issue .... I fear for the health & safety of any Currant Bun outed in the Hibs end. Hell we have a number of fans who don't mind having a punch up with each other on these occasions ... imagine what they would do to a Zombie.

[duffers]

For the people who are defending the approach the club are taking with the tickets, can you please explain why you think the following scenario is fair.

I don't have a Season ticket for a number of reasons, but help the club where I can, and attend as many games as I can. I'm on 208 loyalty points, and quite a few of these points have been accumulated for the sole reason of adding points to my tally.

A Rangers fan buys a Hibs ticket for Sunday's game. 5 loyalty points.

Why is it fair that I'm in the same bracket as him?

I don't have any problem with the club giving ST holders priority (Despite me having more points than some half/full season ticket holders). It's the fact I've been giving almost no priority at all that annoys me

[The Green Goblin]

So how did you find out then?


He found out when the ticket purchasing details for the final were published on the club´s website.

[Beefster]

Even if that's true it's clearly not the norm though, is it?

I look forward to seeing the club's response to the emails sent. It will be interesting to see how they justify having one wave for STs and then what is effectively a free for all for everyone else.

Rather than bothering the club employees, who will already be under massive pressure, you should maybe direct your queries at Amit and Frank. You'll probably get a quicker answer too.

[blackpoolhibs]

Only Hibs could cock this up, even allowing for two tickets to season ticket holders who renew, how difficult would it be to then use the loyalty system the club brought in for this very occasion correctly?

A bloody shambles, i don't give a toss because i'm ok i am sorted. Not the right attitude but one the club have contrived.

The i'm alright Jack party are the winners. :rolleyes:

[DH1875]

If you work on Saturdays you would not have missed many Hibs home matches this year. There have been two, both in January.

I also work during the week and still don't live in Edinburgh :wink: . I have plenty of points from the games I have been to. Point is that during the course of the season I bought tickets for games I couldn't go to so that I could add the points to the points I got for the games I did go to, so that in the event I needed points I'd be as high up the list as possible (for me under my circumstances). Turns out I needn't have bothered and only needed to buy ONE ticket for ONE game ALL season. Infact scrap that. You don't even need to have bought the ticket this season. Could have bought it last season and I'd just have as much of the same chance.

Don't care what anyone says, total farce that folks with lots of points are in the same wave as folks with just one.

[JimBHibees]

Still, I'm sure many of them were quite happy to get a pair of socks that matched their usual wardrobe.

:not worth :greengrin

[Big_Franck]

Rather than bothering the club employees, who will already be under massive pressure, you should maybe direct your queries at Amit and Frank. You'll probably get a quicker answer too.

I've not actually sent any queries to the club myself, I meant I was waiting to see the response others got. I didn't see the point in bombaring the club with the same query.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Only Hibs could cock this up, even allowing for two tickets to season ticket holders who renew, how difficult would it be to then use the loyalty system the club brought in for this very occasion correctly?

A bloody shambles, i don't give a toss because i'm ok i am sorted. Not the right attitude but one the club have contrived.

The i'm alright Jack party are the winners. :rolleyes:

Says the guy with Debentures along with boys from London who never attend:aok:

[Big_Franck]

How fortunate are we to be in a position to be having this discussion?

I was just thinking the same to be honest :greengrin I can't wait for the game already.

[Waxy]

For the people who are defending the approach the club are taking with the tickets, can you please explain why you think the following scenario is fair.

I don't have a Season ticket for a number of reasons, but help the club where I can, and attend as many games as I can. I'm on 208 loyalty points, and quite a few of these points have been accumulated for the sole reason of adding points to my tally.

A Rangers fan buys a Hibs ticket for Sunday's game. 5 loyalty points.

Why is it fair that I'm in the same bracket as him?

I don't have any problem with the club giving ST holders priority (Despite me having more points than some half/full season ticket holders). It's the fact I've been giving almost no priority at all that annoys me
It is this point that's annoying most of us "serial non attenders".If your not a season ticket holder then you dont matter.

[surreyhibbie]

Due to circumstances I hardly ever get to games these days (went every week in my youth, but that was a loooooong time ago!) but because I subscribe to HSL and Hibs TV it appears I have 100 loyalty points.

This means I am entitled to as many tickets as someone who attends every week but cant shell out for a ST up front. or someone who is a ST holder actually...

Definitely not fair on these guys.

[Baldy Foghorn]

They did mention a while back that the loyalty point scheme was being reconsidered. Probably because of all the bitching going on among those people who had been moaning for years about the lack of a loyalty scheme.

Only moaning and bitching was by those with not enough points to qualify for tickets AFAIK

[green day]

how difficult would it be to then use the loyalty system the club brought in for this very occasion

Probably quite difficult as to satisfy all the competing "deserving causes". That would mean loads of waves and lots of people unable to sit with their mates - IIRC this was a criticism of ticketing arrangements at Ibrox?

Appreciate there are some walk up fans who might feel annoyed about this - but actually how many I am less sure about, I cant remember that many crowds over season ticket numbers this year, and plenty about bang on our ST numbers??.

......and its not only hibs that have this issue, I know a couple of Gunts who say they have the exact same issues with their system.....not that its been an issue for them recently :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Says the guy with Debentures along with boys from London who never attend:aok:

Exactly, and the reason i personally went this way was because the way the club issued these tickets. The loyalty scheme is a shambles, and folk like me have said sod the rest of you, we will get tickets another way.

[blackpoolhibs]

Probably quite difficult as to satisfy all the competing "deserving causes". That would mean loads of waves and lots of people unable to sit with their mates - IIRC this was a criticism of ticketing arrangements at Ibrox?

Appreciate there are some walk up fans who might feel annoyed about this - but actually how many I am less sure about, I cant remember that many crowds over season ticket numbers this year, and plenty about bang on our ST numbers??.

......and its not only hibs that have this issue, I know a couple of Gunts who say they have the exact same issues with their system.....not that its been an issue for them recently :greengrin

I cant believe anyone would miss a cup final because they couldn't bare to sit next to a stranger? With a system in place that rewards EVERYONE ON MERIT, to then ignore it and have this shambles is ridiculous.

But as i said, i'm alright jack. :rolleyes:

[Thecat23]

Exactly, and the reason i personally went this way was because the way the club issued these tickets. The loyalty scheme is a shambles, and folk like me have said sod the rest of you, we will get tickets another way.

I personally have no issue how fans get tickets, if folk want to pay whatever it is for a 3 course meal etc that's fine. I also think Hibs have got it spot on and season ticket members deserve to get at least one and I'm delighted we get another if we renew.

I think I'll have 2 spare tickets and if I do I'll be giving them to my mates who couldn't get one but do walk ups most weeks.

[lucky]

It's laughable to think that any Rangers fan is going to buy a ticket for the QOS game to get a chance to sit in the Hibs end at the final. The way Hibs have done the ticket distribution is in line with what the fans were wanting. ST holders first then registered supporters, that way it gives everyone a chance to sit in their groups

[green day]

I cant believe anyone would miss a cup final because they couldn't bare to sit next to a stranger? With a system in place that rewards EVERYONE ON MERIT, to then ignore it and have this shambles is ridiculous.

But as i said, i'm alright jack. :rolleyes:

OK, I understand the merit bit FFS ! I am on 345 points but get the same one (1 ) ticket as the guy along from me with just a season ticket who has 180 points.

Thats life.

But to explain my point further? If you have the multiple waves that (lots appear to) want, you absolutely wouldget the situation where parents could have more points than their kids/relatives, so have to wait for the lower wave to get seats together.

Then they would whinge as they only got tickets up the back of the east - That situation would 100% happen if hibs did it the 'multiple waves' route.

Its no win for the club.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Exactly, and the reason i personally went this way was because the way the club issued these tickets. The loyalty scheme is a shambles, and folk like me have said sod the rest of you, we will get tickets another way.

Loyalty scheme was fine until HSL points got added in. Then those who didn't have enough points moaned, causing aggravation towards TO staff etc, causing scheme to be reviewed. Now the same folk who were moaning about scheme been "useless", are now wanting it implemented.

I would not have set it at 1 point in second wave, that is stupidity, but Hibs always get in wrong in some people's eyes.

[blackpoolhibs]

OK, I understand the merit bit FFS ! I am on 345 points but get the same one (1 ) ticket as the guy along from me with just a season ticket who has 180 points.

Thats life.

But to explain my point further? If you have the multiple waves that (lots appear to) want, you absolutely wouldget the situation where parents could have more points than their kids/relatives, so have to wait for the lower wave to get seats together.

Then they would whinge as they only got tickets up the back of the east - That situation would 100% happen if hibs did it the 'multiple waves' route.

Its no win for the club.

I'm just repeating myself here, but the loyalty points system rewarded loyalty. If you have 150 points or 300 points you deserve a better seat and a chance to buy that seat before someone who has 1 point.

Maybe its just me, but thats how i personally thought the loyalty system should work.

Its fair and how anyone could complain that was further down the points tally that they get their tickets on a sliding scale is beyond me.

There's still 3 weeks to go, plenty time for at least 4 waves of sales, maybe even more?

[ronaldo7]

Says the guy with Debentures along with boys from London who never attend:aok:

You have to agree though B, that the scheme which should have been a skoosh to operate, has been poorly operated by the club.

I remember we used to speak about players on here.:greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Loyalty scheme was fine until HSL points got added in. Then those who didn't have enough points moaned, causing aggravation towards TO staff etc, causing scheme to be reviewed. Now the same folk who were moaning about scheme been "useless", are now wanting it implemented.

I would not have set it at 1 point in second wave, that is stupidity, but Hibs always get in wrong in some people's eyes.

I'm not someone who buys tickets online, i have only bought one ticket this season online and that game was cancelled. :faf:

I have bought from the pods and used a mates season ticket too. I have never moaned about the loyalty system apart from how its taken away the benefits of a season ticket holder.

The loyalty system if its to be used has to be used fairly, and its clear its not.

[seanoheimhin]

While it benefits me, agree it's unfair on a lot of fans. I've been to 7 games this season, why should I get the same preference as someone who has been to 25?! Definitely some more nuance needed.

[blackpoolhibs]

While it benefits me, agree it's unfair on a lot of fans. I've been to 7 games this season, why should I get the same preference as someone who has been to 25?! Definitely some more nuance needed.

Don't worry about it matey, i'm certainly not. :greengrin

[NAE NOOKIE]

Loyalty scheme was fine until HSL points got added in. Then those who didn't have enough points moaned, causing aggravation towards TO staff etc, causing scheme to be reviewed. Now the same folk who were moaning about scheme been "useless", are now wanting it implemented.

I would not have set it at 1 point in second wave, that is stupidity, but Hibs always get in wrong in some people's eyes.

The HSL fiasco discredited the loyalty points scheme the minute they did it.

IMO they should have made the 2nd tranche folk with 90 or more loyalty points, who were not ST holders ..... but Hibs have obviously worked the second tranche at 1 point to try and get as many folk as possible to buy or renew for next season, from their point of view that's far from stupid.

Having said that, they obviously didn't factor in the QOTS game ..... IMO there's still time to do something about that and they should, even if it means not awarding loyalty points for that game or setting the 2nd tranche at 4 points or more ... IIRC its 3 points for buying a home ticket.

[TamHibs]

The HSL fiasco discredited the loyalty points scheme the minute they did it.

IMO they should have made the 2nd tranche folk with 90 or more loyalty points, who were not ST holders ..... but Hibs have obviously worked the second tranche at 1 point to try and get as many folk as possible to buy or renew for next season, from their point of view that's far from stupid.

Having said that, they obviously didn't factor in the QOTS game ..... IMO there's still time to do something about that and they should, even if it means not awarding loyalty points for that game or setting the 2nd tranche at 4 points or more ... IIRC its 3 points for buying a home ticket.

10 points for a home ticket, 5 for an away ticket

[NAE NOOKIE]

10 points for a home ticket, 5 for an away ticket

I stand corrected :greengrin ......... Set the 2nd tranche at 11 points or more then :aok:

[CallumLaidlaw]

Feedback from the club -
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/6450

[hibee]

Feedback from the club -
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/6450

Sensible explanation.

[1987kev]

The club have done this to make more sells on season ticket. What was the point in the points system???

[blackpoolhibs]

The club have done this to make more sells on season ticket. What was the point in the points system???


To cause arguments on here. :wink:

[Hermit Crab]

To cause arguments on here. :wink:


We've established that you're ok jack and you're sorted for the cup final so why don't you take a back seat from the thread now....? You know you just wind people up.

[blackpoolhibs]

We've established that you're ok jack and you're sorted for the cup final so why don't you take a back seat from the thread now....? You know you just wind people up.

Yes it was a flippant remark, but made as a joke. As for posting to wind people up, its not done at all for that reason. Its done to point out the hypocrisy and i'm alright jack attitude of some.

People worried about getting tickets for a cup final really is no laughing matter.

I have enough points to get a ticket apparently, but i fancy a bit of a drink and a dinner beforehand which i will pay for.

My ticket IS going to someone else, if its ok for others to give it the alright jack attitude i am doing the same.

Just because someone has a different opinion does not make them a troll or at the wind up. :rolleyes:

[trev the hat]

Says the guy with Debentures along with boys from London who never attend:aok:

Plenty adendees here S & from the Capital 👍
Club have got this wrong in terms of the loophole,
Regardless anything that allows an away support to register, buy & purchase a cup final ticket is the biggest let down to us Hibs fans, we have no authority over & should never be an option.