GAP - Racist (Apparently)

[Hibee87]

This has made me chuckle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787)

In no way shape or form is this a racist image, and the image of an older GAP ad near the bottom proves it. Yet its still bein pulled :confused:

[snooky]

This has made me chuckle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787)

In no way shape or form is this a racist image, and the image of an older GAP ad near the bottom proves it. Yet its still bein pulled :confused:

I could see how this might upset me if I viewed everything from a racism angle.

[easty]

This has made me chuckle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35968787)

In no way shape or form is this a racist image, and the image of an older GAP ad near the bottom proves it. Yet its still bein pulled :confused:

Well Kevin Harper went for the job as the tall white girl leaning on the shorter black girl but didn't get it because he's black. Which is an incredible stat (if true).

[CropleyWasGod]

Well Kevin Harper went for the job as the tall white girl leaning on the shorter black girl but didn't get it because he's black. Which is an incredible stat (if true).

... and wee Russell lived up (down ?) to his short-arsedness by getting the gig as the wee girl.

Apparently, he got the job cos he's black.

Racist ****s, Gap

[steakbake]

It's got the GAP trending on the internet.

Have they been to the same school of media manipulation as United Colors of Benetton?

[Pretty Boy]

Stuff like this saddens me. There will be in the near future something genuinely racist or offensive that will be dismissed because of nonsense like this numbing people to real prejudice.

[Scouse Hibee]

Stuff like this saddens me. There will be in the near future something genuinely racist or offensive that will be dismissed because of nonsense like this numbing people to real prejudice.

Yep just like the crying wolf issue I mentioned on a previous thread.

[RyeSloan]

Stuff like this saddens me. There will be in the near future something genuinely racist or offensive that will be dismissed because of nonsense like this numbing people to real prejudice.

Too true.

[Hibrandenburg]

Stuff like this saddens me. There will be in the near future something genuinely racist or offensive that will be dismissed because of nonsense like this numbing people to real prejudice.

:agree:

[Sir David Gray]

I actually find stuff like this offensive.

How anyone can view that picture and say it is racist just beggars belief.

[snooky]

I actually find stuff like this offensive.

How anyone can view that picture and say it is racist just beggars belief.

If you are LOOKING for racism, then I suppose you could interpret it in that way.
I would think most people will see it for what it is .... i.e. an advert for Gap.

[Scouse Hibee]

If you are LOOKING for racism, then I suppose you could interpret it in that way.
I would think most people will see it for what it is .... i.e. an advert for Gap.

Agreed, I looked at it without knowing what was causing the uproar and saw nothing wrong with it. Now it's been pointed out to me I still don't.

[Hibbyradge]

I could see how this might upset me if I viewed everything from a racism angle.

If I was a white supremacist, I'd be pleased that the blackie was being kept in her place by a taller and more powerful white girl.

To me, the advert looked innocent, but I'm not black and I'm not sensitive to institutional or casual racism.

If you're not on the receiving end of insidious injustice like that, it's often hard to recognise it.

No one south of the border blinks an eye when someone refers to the UK as "England". I notice it and it irritates me. They're not being racist, of course, but it's the best analogy I can think of just now.

GAP were right to withdraw the advert, even if it had innocent intentions.

[snooky]

If I was a white supremacist, I'd be pleased that the blackie was being kept in her place by a taller and more powerful white girl.

To me, the advert looked innocent, but I'm not black and I'm not sensitive to institutional or casual racism.

If you're not on the receiving end of insidious injustice like that, it's often hard to recognise it.

No one south of the border blinks an eye when someone refers to the UK as "England". I notice it and it irritates me. They're not being racist, of course, but it's the best analogy I can think of just now.

GAP were right to withdraw the advert, even if it had innocent intentions.
Your post underlines my point, HR.
The question is, how far do we take 'casual' racism?
Surely it's elastic and depends totally on your perspective of the world around you?

[Hibbyradge]

Your post underlines my point, HR.
The question is, how far do we take 'casual' racism?
Surely it's elastic and depends totally on your perspective of the world around you?

Yes, I understood your point and I knew I was backing it.

How much casual racism should people have to accept?

If a company does something and it is perceived as racist or sexist etc, who are they, or we, to say "tough, deal with it?"

The golden rule of "treat others as you'd wish to be treated" isn't enough.

The Platinum rule, "Treat people as they wish to be treated" is much better.

[Future17]

The article I read didn't even suggested GAP were being accused of "casual racism", but rather "passive racism". What exactly is that (in the context of this ad)?

The only thing I can think of is that they're being accused of not thinking about how the advert may be interpreted by black people who believe they are (metaphorically) held down by white people. In which case, would they be accused of passive racism if a black girl was leaning on a white girl (as in the older ad)? If so, does that mean that any picture of one person leaning on another is racist? Or only if they are of a different race to one another?

I'm so confused...

[lapsedhibee]

The Platinum rule, "Treat people as they wish to be treated" is much better.
Nah, don't think that really works as a general principle. Huns, for example, wish to be treated as the saviours of Scottish fitba. I say **** em.

[Sir David Gray]

Agreed, I looked at it without knowing what was causing the uproar and saw nothing wrong with it. Now it's been pointed out to me I still don't.

:agree: I looked at the BBC headline last night and then looked at the picture and I stared at it for a good few minutes before I looked at the article itself and I couldn't figure out what the perceived racism was.

I just shook my head when I went on to read the article and saw the "explanation".

[Hibee87]

:agree: I looked at the BBC headline last night and then looked at the picture and I stared at it for a good few minutes before I looked at the article itself and I couldn't figure out what the perceived racism was.

I just shook my head when I went on to read the article and saw the "explanation".

Exactly what I done yesterday when I seen it, stared for a about minutes trying to work out what was wrong with it.

The quote of one person on the second picture is a belter. Something like the white girl looks fierce but the black girl looks raging.

[McD]

I actually find stuff like this offensive.

How anyone can view that picture and say it is racist just beggars belief.


Whilst there is is without doubt racism in the world, some people look for ways to be offended (to be clear, I'm not meaning you Trig, I'm talking about people seeing racism in this picture).

[Sir David Gray]

Whilst there is is without doubt racism in the world, some people look for ways to be offended (to be clear, I'm not meaning you Trig, I'm talking about people seeing racism in this picture).

Some people just love nothing more than being constantly offended by things.

I actually pity them.

[Scouse Hibee]

Being offended is a choice.

[Colr]

Some people just love nothing more than being constantly offended by things.

I actually pity them.

.... And I think they enjoy polarising racial groups rather than bringing them together.

[snooky]

Some people just love nothing more than being constantly offended by things.

I actually pity them.

Me too.

[The_Exile]

What if the roles had been reversed? Would it have been racist to white folk? Don't understand any of it, my girlfriend is of African descent and she can't fathom this particular incident out either?

[speedy_gonzales]

What if the roles had been reversed? Would it have been racist to white folk?
If you read all of the link you'll see that the roles had been reversed in the past, but it wasn't racist as the wee white girl looked 'fierce' as opposed to oppressed,,,,nope, I don't see it either!

[Future17]

If you read all of the link you'll see that the roles had been reversed in the past, but it wasn't racist as the wee white girl looked 'fierce' as opposed to oppressed,,,,nope, I don't see it either!

Can something be reversed in the past? :wink:

[speedy_gonzales]

Can something be reversed in the past? :wink:
Depends on what vein of time travel and consequential affects you subscribe to. :wink:

[Colr]

Can something be reversed in the past? :wink:

Revisionists do it all the time!

[Future17]

Depends on what vein of time travel and consequential affects you subscribe to. :wink:

Ah, fair enough. I suppose, if you were to go backwards in a Delorean, you would be reversing in the past...or would you? :greengrin