NHC- Neville sacked

[snooky]

News flash: Gary Neville has been sacked by Valencia.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

No surprise really, he can talk that talk but can't do the walk. Way out of his depth in that league.

[PISTOL1875]

Always gonna happen I think.. A club full of egos and always going to be a massive challenge keeping them all happy.. Pretty sure Neville will make it as a manager in the future....

[Thecat23]

Fair play to him for trying management. Many Sky pundits talk a good game but never have the bottle to manage.

I think he should stay in England though as he was struggling with the language barrier. That's if he wants to still be a manager!

[Ozyhibby]

To me this does not diminish his worth as a pundit at all. They are very different jobs.
Neville has all the attributes to be a good manager except one, experience. He has made the classic mistake of assuming he could just jump in at a top club without the tiresome process of running reserve and age group teams first.
Doesn't make him a bad pundit though.


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[Haymaker]

Not the easiest of jobs to walk into. Should have started at a lower club, build his way up which I think he will do now.

[blackpoolhibs]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?

[Smartie]

Valencia was a poisoned chalice.

Fair play to him for taking it on.

I'd happily listen to someone who knows what it is like to fail and go wrong talking about where people are failing and going wrong. It adds to his value as a pundit imo.

Never liked him as a player, thought I'd hate him as a pundit but was surprised when I liked him almost immediately.

[SJM]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?


Unless he's speaking in Spanish giving a lowdown on el Classico on Saturday I don't see the issue myself.

[Michael]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?

He is a good pundit. Similarly, Wenger was a poor footballer - does that mean he shouldn't coach footballers?

[MWHIBBIES]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?I can and he'll be even better at it now. He is still one of the best English defenders of all time and extremely knowledgeable about football. There is also far more to management than telling a player if he is or isn't doing his job right, especially in a foreign country.

[easty]

He is a good pundit. Similarly, Wenger was a poor footballer - does that mean he shouldn't coach footballers?

That's not the same thing though is it.

I don't have a problem with Neville going back to being a pundit, he knows football, and if he's analysing a game then he's got plenty experience to call on for his opinions. He might think twice about criticising how a manager has set their team out though.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?

If nothing else, there is a credibility gap.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?

:agree: burnt his bridges a bit. As soon as he makes a critical comment he'll be pounced on.

[MWHIBBIES]

:agree: burnt his bridges a bit. As soon as he makes a critical comment he'll be pounced on.Which is stupid, he should be pounced upon if he is wrong, not because he tried and failed a managers job in a foreign country with a massive club

[Danderhall Hibs]

Which is stupid, he should be pounced upon if he is wrong, not because he tried and failed a managers job in a foreign country with a massive club

Not saying it's right, just that it will be the automatic reaction of the likes of Big Sam or Jose to deflect any unwanted criticism. Justified or not.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not saying it's right, just that it will be the automatic reaction of the likes of Big Sam or Jose to deflect any unwanted criticism. Justified or not.Hopefully Neville responds pointing out their massive failures at Newcastle and Chelsea respectively.

[blackpoolhibs]

He is a good pundit. Similarly, Wenger was a poor footballer - does that mean he shouldn't coach footballers?

Has Wenger won anything as a manager?

[CorrieHibs]

I cant see how he can go back to sky and tell us all how each manager is doing it wrong, and then tell us what they should be doing?

Terry Butcher is sometimes on sky giving his "expert" analysis. So don't see how Neville can't go back.

[blackpoolhibs]

Terry Butcher is sometimes on sky giving his "expert" analysis. So don't see how Neville can't go back.


:greengrin

[SJM]

:agree: burnt his bridges a bit. As soon as he makes a critical comment he'll be pounced on.

Souness isn't?

[Hibernia&Alba]

I'm surprised he took the job; it was a brave thing to do. Apparently Valencia are in a terrible mess, and he doesn't even speak Spanish. He'll certainly have learnt a lot from it, however, which may help him going forward. He should take a job at a British club and work his way up, IMO.

[HibsNutter]

He should be able to go back into a pundit role, he has a great knowledge of the game and is indeed a great pundit. However, I get the feeling he won't wish to do so.

He clearly has the attributes to succeed in management, and if given the right club in England I imagine he will.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Souness isn't?

It could be argued that Souness was fairly successful.

And most folk are still **** scared of him.

[Lago]

Does he not have a coaching role with the England national team?

[jdships]

No surprise really, he can talk that talk but can't do the walk. Way out of his depth in that league.

Absolutely living off his being ex Man U , I'm sorry to say :rolleyes:

[Scouse Hibee]

Always thought it was a strange move for him until I realised his connection to the owner. I guess he thought it was too good an opportunity to turn down and one that won't really harm his chances of future management as no one really expected such a rookie manager to succeed in a foreign country anyway.Great experience for him and I am sure it will serve him well whatever he decides to do next. Get him back on SKY with Carra, he was outstanding and sorely missed in my opinion.

[B.H.F.C]

Always thought it was a strange move for him until I realised his connection to the owner. I guess he thought it was too good an opportunity to turn down and one that won't really harm his chances of future management as no one really expected such a rookie manager to succeed in a foreign country anyway.Great experience for him and I am sure it will serve him well whatever he decides to do next. Get him back on SKY with Carra, he was outstanding and sorely missed in my opinion.

A scouser saying something nice about Gary Neville.....that's a first!

[Scouse Hibee]

A scouser saying something nice about Gary Neville.....that's a first!

What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch😁

[3pm]

Always thought it was a strange move for him until I realised his connection to the owner. I guess he thought it was too good an opportunity to turn down and one that won't really harm his chances of future management as no one really expected such a rookie manager to succeed in a foreign country anyway.Great experience for him and I am sure it will serve him well whatever he decides to do next. Get him back on SKY with Carra, he was outstanding and sorely missed in my opinion.

When appointed, I think he was quoted as saying nobody would have taken him seriously in future (as a pundit) if he'd turned the job down.

[SJM]

It could be argued that Souness was fairly successful.

And most folk are still **** scared of him.


Fair point. Still a hertz **** 👍

[Stevie Reid]

When appointed, I think he was quoted as saying nobody would have taken him seriously in future (as a pundit) if he'd turned the job down.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4631447.ece

[patch1875]

Sure he will be back on sky, it was like he was still sponsored by them the amount of coverage he got.

Good luck to him comes across well as a pundit and on the programme about Salford.

[Edson Arantes]

Man. United could do worse than Neville.

Got to be better than LVG.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I reckon it's racist. There just seems to be far too many white managers being sacked these days

[Stevie Reid]

Don't care about his time at Valencia, hope he's back on Sky soon - would much rather listen to him than any other pundit.

[JimBHibees]

Fair play to him for trying management. Many Sky pundits talk a good game but never have the bottle to manage.

I think he should stay in England though as he was struggling with the language barrier. That's if he wants to still be a manager!

Agree at least he had the kahoonas to try it. Very difficult job given the language barrier and different style of football. Let's see how he gets on in England though as you say he could be happy to get a cushy pundit role at Sky again.

When you hear the nonsense that guys like Nicholas and McInally come out with who haven't managed or coached then to me they have much less credibility than others who have. Nicholas in particular struggles with English at the best of times.

[JimBHibees]

Don't care about his time at Valencia, hope he's back on Sky soon - would much rather listen to him than any other pundit.

Agree his analysis is brilliant and on a different level.

[JimBHibees]

Man. United could do worse than Neville.

Got to be better than LVG.

On what basis?

[Unseen work]

Get him in for stubbs.

[Pete]

Get him in for stubbs.

So your suggestions so far are a dream team of Neville and Nade?

Any more?

[Unseen work]

So your suggestions so far are a dream team of Neville and Nade?

Any more?

Yes.

James collins and makalambay

[Pete]

Yes.

James collins and makalambay

:greengrin

My eyes!