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HUTCHYHIBBY
26-03-2016, 07:31 PM
Lothar in the studio, my football hero, what a player.

Keith_M
26-03-2016, 07:36 PM
This might not go down well with some of our support but...


Come on England, hump the Erics!!!

Gatecrasher
26-03-2016, 07:52 PM
Is this available online?

flash
26-03-2016, 07:53 PM
Is this available online?

ITV player?

Gatecrasher
26-03-2016, 07:53 PM
It says not available where I live. :confused:

Hiber-nation
26-03-2016, 07:54 PM
Is this available online?

STV player?

Since90+2
26-03-2016, 08:03 PM
It says not available where I live. :confused:

Put in any English postcode. It won't pickup your location and you can watch the game. Done it a few times.

paddy1875
26-03-2016, 08:05 PM
I'm a fan on the Germany strip!

Benny Brazil
26-03-2016, 08:12 PM
Didnt realise Super John was playing in this one :greengrin

McD
26-03-2016, 08:14 PM
Roy hodgson is England's answer to Craig brown, everything set up so conservatively

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 08:17 PM
German goal wrongly ruled out for offside.

Nakedmanoncrack
26-03-2016, 08:18 PM
Apparently its a meeting of 'two of Europe's Leading Nations'

blackpoolhibs
26-03-2016, 08:19 PM
Very poor decision from the linesman.

BoomtownHibees
26-03-2016, 08:22 PM
Very poor decision from the linesman.

The lino didn't even seem to put his flag up

3pm
26-03-2016, 08:23 PM
Should Hummels have been booked?!

Never mentioned.

Radium
26-03-2016, 08:28 PM
What's up with England's socks? (really by the match)


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HoboHarry
26-03-2016, 08:35 PM
This might not go down well with some of our support but...


Come on England, hump the Erics!!!
Ya scallywag 😜.

Anyhow, hope Germany crush them like grapes....,.

Onceinawhile
26-03-2016, 08:37 PM
1-0 deutschland

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 08:38 PM
1-0 deutschland

Wunderbar! :thumbsup:

Hiber-nation
26-03-2016, 08:39 PM
Why didn't Butland stay down when he got injured? Or is it only these foreigners that do that? Strange that neither the commentator nor Hoddle have even mentioned it.

Nakedmanoncrack
26-03-2016, 08:40 PM
Why didn't Butland stay down when he got injured? Or is it only these foreigners that do that? Strange that neither the commentator nor Hoddle have even mentioned it.

Utterly idiotic, all he had to do was go down - especially in a friendly, someone would have knocked the ball out.

blackpoolhibs
26-03-2016, 08:41 PM
Thank god he was too thick to go down then. :top marks

lucky
26-03-2016, 08:41 PM
The commentators are awful. Hoddle talks crap but his sidekick is murder. England are lucky to be only one down but according to these two England are world beaters

Billy Whizz
26-03-2016, 08:43 PM
Why didn't Butland stay down when he got injured? Or is it only these foreigners that do that? Strange that neither the commentator nor Hoddle have even mentioned it.

He'd have got booked like Oxley, for time wasting

Speedy
26-03-2016, 08:43 PM
Why didn't Butland stay down when he got injured? Or is it only these foreigners that do that? Strange that neither the commentator nor Hoddle have even mentioned it.

He should have thrown the ball out when he first got injured as well.

Mr Grieves
26-03-2016, 08:48 PM
Why didn't Butland stay down when he got injured? Or is it only these foreigners that do that? Strange that neither the commentator nor Hoddle have even mentioned it.
Just inexperience. He had 2 chances to knock it out aswell but he was obviously keen to stay on the pitch

Stax
26-03-2016, 08:57 PM
Deli Alli lmpresive for Engerlund, could of sworn I heard Hoddle say this is what it's all about playing East Germany earlier?

Onceinawhile
26-03-2016, 09:10 PM
2-0 deutschland

Onceinawhile
26-03-2016, 09:12 PM
2-1 englandshire back in it?

ronaldo7
26-03-2016, 09:13 PM
Good goal from Kano

mutley
26-03-2016, 09:15 PM
Ze Germans singing the Super John McGinn song!!


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Col2
26-03-2016, 09:16 PM
Crowd singing the John McGinn song. Ok might not be John McGinn they are shouting for but its the same tune!

Benny Brazil
26-03-2016, 09:18 PM
Didnt realise Super John was playing in this one :greengrin

You guys are too slow....:greengrin

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 09:23 PM
Crowd singing the John McGinn song. Ok might not be John McGinn they are shouting for but its the same tune!

I'm pretty sure it is McGinn they're singing about.

I mean, who else is better than Zidane? :greengrin

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 09:25 PM
2-2, Vardy.

I hate to admit it but that's two cracking goals that England's scored tonight.

Benny Brazil
26-03-2016, 09:25 PM
Wow - Jamie Vardy!!

mikewynne
26-03-2016, 09:26 PM
Stunning goal!

Radium
26-03-2016, 09:27 PM
Vardy


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hibby6270
26-03-2016, 09:28 PM
Decent goal by Vardy.
And now I've seen the replay it's even better than it looked live.

Leanne - get the cheque book out LOL:greengrin:greengrin

Broken Gnome
26-03-2016, 09:28 PM
Slight concern on how an aging slow Scotland are going to cope with a young quick England....

Stax
26-03-2016, 09:28 PM
What a finish vardy, good move.

Radium
26-03-2016, 09:29 PM
https://vimeo.com/160475430


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SteveHFC
26-03-2016, 09:30 PM
Roy should be sacked if he starts Rooney over Vardy in the euro's.

ronaldo7
26-03-2016, 09:30 PM
England have looked like a team tonight. If they can keep these guys fit, they'll be a good bet for the top 3 in the Euro's.

Benny Brazil
26-03-2016, 09:31 PM
Roy should be sacked if he starts Rooney over Vardy in the euro's.

Yep - a front two of Kane and Vardy with Alli behind them will cause most teams a lot of problems.

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 09:32 PM
Harry Kane's been outstanding tonight.

Stax
26-03-2016, 09:33 PM
What a finish vardy, good move.

SteveHFC
26-03-2016, 09:33 PM
England have looked like a team tonight. If they can keep these guys fit, they'll be a good bet for the top 3 in the Euro's.

Hate to say it but England have a number of decent players at the moment.

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 09:34 PM
Delle Alli scoops an open goal over the bar.

Thecat23
26-03-2016, 09:35 PM
Sitter there to win it.

Jim44
26-03-2016, 09:36 PM
Roy should be sacked if he starts Rooney over Vardy in the euro's.


Yep - a front two of Kane and Vardy with Alli behind them will cause most teams a lot of problems.

One of the commentators suggesting that Rooney and other players back in England won't be enjoying what they are seeing. What happened to team spirit?:greengrin

Thecat23
26-03-2016, 09:36 PM
It's weird as I actually like most of the England players as individuals and enjoy watching most English Prem games but when they come together I just want them pumped!

Stax
26-03-2016, 09:36 PM
Jamie Vardie reminds me of a skinheided version of Richard Ashcroft.

Mon Dieu4
26-03-2016, 09:36 PM
Harry Kane's been outstanding tonight.

He is one of my irrational pet hates, not sure what it is about the guy but I seriously can't stand him, everything about him just annoys the hell out of me, oh and he looks like Fagin from Oliver Twist

HH81
26-03-2016, 09:38 PM
Not watched England in a while, seem to be able to play a bit more football these days.

Just think I have had a burger king with one of the players on this pitch :greengrin

Thecat23
26-03-2016, 09:39 PM
Not watched England in a while, seem to be able to play a bit more football these days.

Just think I have had a burger king with one of the players on this pitch :greengrin

Never knew Nade was playing!!!

Scouse Hibee
26-03-2016, 09:41 PM
Yaaaaaaas get in

Onceinawhile
26-03-2016, 09:42 PM
3-2 dier

Sir David Gray
26-03-2016, 09:42 PM
3-2 England, Dier.

Onceinawhile
26-03-2016, 09:42 PM
Surely the winner

HH81
26-03-2016, 09:42 PM
:greengrin
Never knew Nade was playing!!!

3-2 England.

Northernhibee
26-03-2016, 09:43 PM
England really deserve the win, great football on display in the second half.

ronaldo7
26-03-2016, 09:43 PM
England really deserve the win, great football on display in the second half.

:agree: Fully deserved.

johnbc70
26-03-2016, 09:44 PM
Are England genuinely good or Germany having a poor night. Probably a bit of both.

Should make the Euros interesting.

MartinfaePorty
26-03-2016, 09:44 PM
This reminds me very much of the England v Italy game at WC 2014. England fantastic coming forward but open at back. Great win and deserved, but not sure it'll win them a trophy.

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renato
26-03-2016, 09:45 PM
Good performance from the Engerlish, who always do well in Germany. As always, can they translate that to the crunch games when it matters?

McD
26-03-2016, 09:45 PM
Germany have looked shocking since they made some subs..decent last half hour from England.

Will hodgson have the courage (and willingness) to stick with the in form players or revert back to rooney etc.

lucky
26-03-2016, 09:46 PM
Game changed when Hummels went off and a kid came on. But England have pace and played a decent tempo in the second half. But if the "offside" goal had not been wrongly chopped off. Germany would have been out of sight

Nakedmanoncrack
26-03-2016, 09:47 PM
Are England genuinely good or Germany having a poor night. Probably a bit of both.

Should make the Euros interesting.

Good 2nd half for England, Germany have been very poor since WC, and I'd be surprised if they are serious contenders in the summer.

Mr Grieves
26-03-2016, 09:47 PM
A very inexperienced England looking like a decent team and Hodgson got his tactics spot on. Dunno how many times Germany lost the ball yards from their own box due to decent pressing

Scottie
26-03-2016, 09:48 PM
Great second half performance from England tonight. Hate to say it but I enjoyed watching them tonight. They have some very good young players that are playing with no big tournament disappointments behind them.

Hibby Bairn
26-03-2016, 09:49 PM
Lots of use of the word 'decent'!

Let's be honest. England were very good. Brilliant in parts.

renato
26-03-2016, 09:49 PM
There's probably not a lot between the big nations these days ie Germany, Spain, Italy, France, England and the also the likes of Belgium, Poland etc. Should be a wide open Euro's.

Jonnyboy
26-03-2016, 09:50 PM
Cue the English sporting media announcing the Euro's are in the bag :greengrin

Hiber-nation
26-03-2016, 09:52 PM
With a half decent defence England would be as good a bet as any to win the Euros although I hope to hell it doesn't happen. Germany obviously nowhere near the team they were, neither are Spain, France improving but maybe not quite ready even with a home crowd. Nothing else that stands out.

Mr Grieves
26-03-2016, 09:54 PM
Lots of use of the word 'decent'!

Let's be honest. England were very good. Brilliant in parts.
Decent is the new good

Scouse Hibee
26-03-2016, 09:58 PM
Some excellent football at times from England,a well deserved win and shows the potential we have to have a half decent Euros. Very early days to be predicting being anywhere near the final stages of it but very encouraging none the less.

chrisski33
26-03-2016, 10:02 PM
Its only a friendly england will crumble in the euros but cue the media saying they will win them

ronaldo7
26-03-2016, 10:06 PM
Cue the English sporting media announcing the Euro's are in the bag :greengrin

Talk them up John. Some of them will be telling their wives, it's in the bag.:greengrin

Jonnyboy
26-03-2016, 10:25 PM
Talk them up John. Some of them will be telling their wives, it's in the bag.:greengrin

:greengrin

SkintHibby
26-03-2016, 10:30 PM
Talk them up John. Some of them will be telling their wives, it's in the bag.:greengrin

Love the avatar mate, obviously independence related but I cant read it. Any way of seeing it bigger fellow true Scot?:aok:

Hibrandenburg
26-03-2016, 10:34 PM
This might not go down well with some of our support but...


Come on England, hump the Erics!!!

Nestbeschmutzter!

gaz1875
26-03-2016, 10:35 PM
The short goal kicks by the Germans were embarrassing, especially in the first half, time after time they were getting caught out. Even when they managed to get out their 18 yard box, passing to players who were marked by two players was very poor. Taking nothing away from the Engerlish deserved the win.

Haymaker
27-03-2016, 12:36 AM
Couple of mates follow Engerland away and they got turned over before the game, having a few beers in a boozer and it got rushed by locals. Sad really.

Hibernia&Alba
27-03-2016, 12:47 AM
Didn't see any of the game but saw the goals on the news. Terrific goals by Kane and Vardy.

CentreLine
27-03-2016, 08:30 AM
German bottlers 😯

NORTHERNHIBBY
27-03-2016, 08:31 AM
Always thought that RH was too much of a steady head to really do anything at international football as his tactical thoughts seem to match Italian football from the 1960's. Great showing last night though and I noted that in the press conference Hodgson was emphasising feet being kept on ground and that's probably aimed as much at the press and media as the players.

Michael
27-03-2016, 08:49 AM
Didn't England also beat Spain in a friendly when they were world champions? Reality is that England are not (and have not been since the 60s) at the level of the other top European countries. Quarter final would be an achievement. But you never know, they might "do a Greece".

JimBHibees
27-03-2016, 08:53 AM
Always thought that RH was too much of a steady head to really do anything at international football as his tactical thoughts seem to match Italian football from the 1960's. Great showing last night though and I noted that in the press conference Hodgson was emphasising feet being kept on ground and that's probably aimed as much at the press and media as the players.

An international manager can only use the resources he has and he may well benefit from the great work by coaches like Pocchetino, Martinez and Ranieri. Hodgson is a very good coach and England seem to be strong at the moment however their tournament performances have been poor so let's see where we are in June. Very promising performance for sure.

Hibrandenburg
27-03-2016, 10:51 AM
Couple of mates follow Engerland away and they got turned over before the game, having a few beers in a boozer and it got rushed by locals. Sad really.

Visiting England fans kicked off after landing in Hamburg. Suppose they've got a reputation to keep up.

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-03-2016, 10:51 AM
Sky Sports news falling over themselves as usual with this result but fail to mention that a third choice Scotland beat one of the top European teams during the week. :cb

Scouse Hibee
27-03-2016, 10:57 AM
Sky Sports news falling over themselves as usual with this result but fail to mention that a third choice Scotland beat one of the top European teams during the week. :cb

A third choice?

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-03-2016, 11:23 AM
A third choice?

yeah, as in depleted....

liamh2202
27-03-2016, 11:41 AM
I find it funny how one sided the rivalry is....

marinello59
27-03-2016, 11:47 AM
Sky Sports news falling over themselves as usual with this result but fail to mention that a third choice Scotland beat one of the top European teams during the week. :cb

England coming back from 2-0 to beat Germany last night is a bigger story than what happened in a game a few days ago. I don't see the problem.

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-03-2016, 12:06 PM
I find it funny how one sided the rivalry is....

that's the way it should be in my book, are you going to congratulate the yams for walking away with the 1st division last season?.....:rolleyes:

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-03-2016, 12:07 PM
England coming back from 2-0 to beat Germany last night is a bigger story than what happened in a game a few days ago. I don't see the problem.

Depends on where you come from I suppose, I don't want them winning at tiddlywinks if I'm honest.

HibsNutter
27-03-2016, 12:11 PM
Don't support them at all but coming from 2-0 down to win in the World Champions' back yard is something to shout about, no? They always win friendlies against the big nations - who use friendlies to experiment most of the time - they'll still struggle to get past the quarters at the Euros.

Scouse Hibee
27-03-2016, 12:12 PM
Depends on where you come from I suppose, I don't want them winning at tiddlywinks if I'm honest.

Quite right too.

marinello59
27-03-2016, 12:15 PM
Depends on where you come from I suppose, I don't want them winning at tiddlywinks if I'm honest.

I get that. :greengrin
I have no problem with them celebrating a friendly win though. I don't think they will be celebrating much when the real stuff begins.

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-03-2016, 12:21 PM
I get that. :greengrin
I have no problem with them celebrating a friendly win though. I don't think they will be celebrating much when the real stuff begins.

:thumbsup:

HIBERNIAN-0762
27-03-2016, 12:21 PM
Quite right too.

:wink: :agree:

Hibrandenburg
27-03-2016, 12:28 PM
Bit like Scotland against England friendlies, I don't think the Germans are quite as "up for it" as England were. Still England have every right to be happy about the result.

Haymaker
27-03-2016, 12:49 PM
Visiting England fans kicked off after landing in Hamburg. Suppose they've got a reputation to keep up.

I am sure that they did but as my pals went straight to Berlin, found a 'friendly' boozer and then got attacked I doubt it was them who started it in Hamburg.

Hibrandenburg
27-03-2016, 12:58 PM
I am sure that they did but as my pals went straight to Berlin, found a 'friendly' boozer and then got attacked I doubt it was them who started it in Hamburg.

Didn't say they did.

NORTHERNHIBBY
27-03-2016, 01:11 PM
Think the point about expectations was made by default on Radio Scotland about an hour back. Terry Butcher chipped in with a rentaquote as usual, but Geoff Hurst has England all the way to the semi final already and then seeing how the land lies then .

Keith_M
27-03-2016, 02:13 PM
Nestbeschmutzter!


:na na:

CentreLine
27-03-2016, 02:15 PM
England coming back from 2-0 to beat Germany last night is a bigger story than what happened in a game a few days ago. I don't see the problem.

Not for most of us in Scotland it's not. I personally am fed up being spoon fed English sport to the exclusion of Scottish sport and the detriment of our sport financially.

mjhibby
27-03-2016, 02:18 PM
The defence is their weak link and although going forward,kane vardy and deli Ali are on fire they will be found out when the real stuff starts. Makes it more enjoyable when the are horsed when they have deluded themselves as to how good they are. The fact hodgson says that was his best win sums up where they are at.

One Day Soon
27-03-2016, 02:20 PM
To be fair England did very well and the German football press is apparently raving about their impressive young team. They have an embarrassment of riches and should do well in the world cup.

I hope they go far in the tournament. We should be showing that we're bigger than having an anti-England chip on our shoulders. Its as bad as Yams being obsessed with everything about us. We can start being chippy about other countries once we acquire a tournament qualifying habit again.

One Day Soon
27-03-2016, 02:21 PM
Not for most of us in Scotland it's not. I personally am fed up being spoon fed English sport to the exclusion of Scottish sport and the detriment of our sport financially.

Don't subscribe to Sky then.

Joe's ice cream
27-03-2016, 02:51 PM
The defence is their weak link and although going forward,kane vardy and deli Ali are on fire they will be found out when the real stuff starts. Makes it more enjoyable when the are horsed when they have deluded themselves as to how good they are. The fact hodgson says that was his best win sums up where they are at.

I don't think for a moment England have deluded themselves about how well they will do- I also think that Hodgson claiming that win and as importantly performance against the current world champions as his best is pretty understandable.
Read or listen to what is actually said about the team and expectations by the England press and if anything they seem to always look for fault and improvement as opposed to heaping praise for the sake of it.
As previously said by an earlier poster I see not much between around half a dozen teams who would be capable of winning the championships and in this group I would believe England now find themselves

Dashing Bob S
27-03-2016, 03:01 PM
A third choice?

A first choice Scotland team is enough of a joke. I can't even begin to conceive of what a third choice one might look like.

CentreLine
27-03-2016, 03:03 PM
Don't subscribe to Sky then.

There is a lot more to Sky than English football. As there is all of our broadcasters. I am not against English football or sport for that matter. I am very much against all of our broadcasters favouring English sport disproportionately against that of the other home nations. In my lifetime I have never seen the balance taken so far in one direction. But if my outlook was so narrow as only to watch Scottish football then I certainly would not subscribe to Sky

Northernhibee
27-03-2016, 03:08 PM
Yaaaay, Anglo-centric grievance politics. That's not been done on here before.

G B Young
27-03-2016, 03:08 PM
Sky Sports news falling over themselves as usual with this result but fail to mention that a third choice Scotland beat one of the top European teams during the week. :cb

Why would they feel the need to mention that when it happened the previous week? And the Czech Republic are ranked 25th in the world rankings so hardly a giant of the game. And in what way was it a third choice Scotland? As far as I can see Strachan has a big squad of players who are all of similar, average ability, but whom he manages to get playing quite well as a team. Not well enough to actually win games that matter but better than the shambles under Levein. Bottom line though is that both these games were friendlies so the results are of dubious significance, although the fact England will be at Euro 2016 and Scotland won't (as usual) probably means the England win carries more significance. Who really cares though? If international football was scrapped I'd not miss it.

Also worth pointing out that while the English media are often accused of over-hyping their national team it's nothing compared to the embarrassing guff set to come our way from the Scottish media as soon as the World Cup qualifiers against England come into view.

marinello59
27-03-2016, 03:11 PM
A first choice Scotland team is enough of a joke. I can't even begin to conceive of what a third choice one might look like.

It looks like Larkhall in the rain. On a Monday.

CentreLine
27-03-2016, 03:18 PM
Yaaaay, Anglo-centric grievance politics. That's not been done on here before.

Glad you little world is such a happy place. No doubt you'll enjoy the new format for the Champions League if it comes about favouring only the richest. I'm surprised to find you on here and not favouring one side or the other of the the Glasgow duopoly. On a different scale each has its similarities to what we see in financial bias towards only one of the home nations in televised sport. I have been lucky enough in my lifetime to see many of the top sports played on a relatively level field. I would love it if the present generation were able to get that pleasure too.

CockneyRebel
27-03-2016, 03:37 PM
The defence is their weak link and although going forward,kane vardy and deli Ali are on fire they will be found out when the real stuff starts. Makes it more enjoyable when the are horsed when they have deluded themselves as to how good they are. The fact hodgson says that was his best win sums up where they are at.

You obviously did not see the interview with Hodgson. The press kept battering away asking if that was his best result as England manager and he laughingly eventually replied "okay - if you like, there, you've got your headline but I like to think/hope that the best game is always yet to come ". He spent a lot of the interview talking about 'lets enjoy the result, but still a work in progress and we have to keep our feet on the ground'. Still I wouldn't want you to let the facts prevent you from talking mince.

Northernhibee
27-03-2016, 03:56 PM
Glad you little world is such a happy place. No doubt you'll enjoy the new format for the Champions League if it comes about favouring only the richest. I'm surprised to find you on here and not favouring one side or the other of the the Glasgow duopoly. On a different scale each has its similarities to what we see in financial bias towards only one of the home nations in televised sport. I have been lucky enough in my lifetime to see many of the top sports played on a relatively level field. I would love it if the present generation were able to get that pleasure too.
People like you only ever knock what's successful. Maybe your words would mean more if you were to suggest constructively how we make Scottish football more appealing.

G B Young
27-03-2016, 05:49 PM
You obviously did not see the interview with Hodgson. The press kept battering away asking if that was his best result as England manager and he laughingly eventually replied "okay - if you like, there, you've got your headline but I like to think/hope that the best game is always yet to come ". He spent a lot of the interview talking about 'lets enjoy the result, but still a work in progress and we have to keep our feet on the ground'. Still I wouldn't want you to let the facts prevent you from talking mince.

Precisely. Whenever I've seen England management or players interviewed they tend to downplay expectations if anything, rather than big themselves up. Indeed, as somebody else has pointed out the accusations levelled against the English media when it comes to talking up England are in my view misplaced as they more usually tend to be more critical than triumphalist. An England boss certainly operates under far more pressure than whoever has the Scotland gig.

MKHIBEE
27-03-2016, 06:06 PM
I am sure that they did but as my pals went straight to Berlin, found a 'friendly' boozer and then got attacked I doubt it was them who started it in Hamburg.

Apparently it was Burnley and Millwall fans who started the trouble in Hamburg. It seems there was a fair amount of trouble. There were around 4000 fans who did not get tickets through the official fan club

CentreLine
27-03-2016, 07:40 PM
People like you only ever knock what's successful. Maybe your words would mean more if you were to suggest constructively how we make Scottish football more appealing.

I would politely invite you to read my posts again. There are no end of positives if you take the time to understand the argument. I will resist the temptation to rise to the "People like you" comment.

Haymaker
27-03-2016, 08:38 PM
Apparently it was Burnley and Millwall fans who started the trouble in Hamburg. It seems there was a fair amount of trouble. There were around 4000 fans who did not get tickets through the official fan club

Not a surprise, easy to get to and a "glamour" friendly for all the donuts to turn out for.

Still, shame my mates got turned over for going to watch their country play.

Scouse Hibee
27-03-2016, 08:55 PM
Precisely. Whenever I've seen England management or players interviewed they tend to downplay expectations if anything, rather than big themselves up. Indeed, as somebody else has pointed out the accusations levelled against the English media when it comes to talking up England are in my view misplaced as they more usually tend to be more critical than triumphalist. An England boss certainly operates under far more pressure than whoever has the Scotland gig.

Yep the English media argument is tired, misplaced and used as a regurgitated excuse far too often by those who just don't like to take responsibility for their own feelings.

Lancs Harp
27-03-2016, 09:01 PM
Roll up Hibs and England half and half scarves just PM me.

Jus joking before you lynch me on my next visit. :wink:

doddsy
27-03-2016, 09:08 PM
Roll up Hibs and England half and half scarves just PM me.

Jus joking before you lynch me on my next visit. :wink:

Sounds like a buisiness plan. How many do you think would sell? Maybe give Alan Sugar a bell?

Lancs Harp
27-03-2016, 09:13 PM
Sounds like a buisiness plan. How many do you think would sell? Maybe give Alan Sugar a bell?

Probably about 6.

doddsy
27-03-2016, 09:19 PM
Probably about 6.

As Lord Sugar would say 'Your'e Fired':cb

Lancs Harp
27-03-2016, 09:25 PM
As Lord Sugar would say 'Your'e Fired':cb

OK 5 then

doddsy
27-03-2016, 09:31 PM
OK 5 then


:aok: Been to Lytham St Annes a few times bud, a lovely place indeed.

Lancs Harp
27-03-2016, 09:38 PM
Give me a shout mate next time youre up. We can talk Hibs on the English Riviera :greengrin

doddsy
27-03-2016, 09:42 PM
Give me a shout mate next time youre up. We can talk Hibs on the English Riviera :greengrin

I certainly will bud, much appreciated. Might not be again now until around September this year. Try to get a short break either Morecambe, Fleetwood, Blackpool at least once a year. Will get in touch later this year. Meet for a pint and a blether about the Hi bees.

Lancs Harp
27-03-2016, 09:53 PM
I certainly will bud, much appreciated. Might not be again now until around September this year. Try to get a short break either Morecambe, Fleetwood, Blackpool at least once a year. Will get in touch later this year. Meet for a pint and a blether about the Hi bees.

http://www.hibs.net/images/icons/icon14.png

Edinburgh the Capital of Scotland.

Blackpool the summer Capital of Scotland.

doddsy
27-03-2016, 09:55 PM
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Edinburgh the Capital of Scotland.

Blackpool the summer Capital of Scotland.

Lol, sounds about right Lancs Harp.

AndyM_1875
28-03-2016, 07:27 AM
Yaaaay, Anglo-centric grievance politics. That's not been done on here before.

:greengrin

Back to the football. I don't see England winning the Euros, Spain for me are the side to beat and a motivated Germany are still stronger.

But England could well be a hell of a lot of fun to watch and that would be a big improvement on the rubbish they've served up at the tournaments recently. I just hope their fans behave.

AndyM_1875
28-03-2016, 07:30 AM
Yep the English media argument is tired, misplaced and used as a regurgitated excuse far too often by those who just don't like to take responsibility for their own feelings.

My two big pals at ER are both English. They cringe themselves inside out every time the lazy nonsense is trotted out. Naturally this makes talkSport completely unlistenable and tabloids to be avoided at all costs.

Scouse Hibee
28-03-2016, 07:39 AM
My two big pals at ER are both English. They cringe themselves inside out every time the lazy nonsense is trotted out. Naturally this makes talkSport completely unlistenable and tabloids to be avoided at all costs.

I just knew the first response would start with my friends are English. :-)

Velma Dinkley
28-03-2016, 08:39 AM
I think the English media argument is often lazily trotted out because it's all too
England
Algeria
Slovenia
Yanks

Hibbyradge
28-03-2016, 08:52 AM
Didn't England also beat Spain in a friendly when they were world champions? Reality is that England are not (and have not been since the 60s) at the level of the other top European countries. Quarter final would be an achievement. But you never know, they might "do a Greece".

When did England last lose a game against European opposition?

Treadstone
28-03-2016, 08:53 AM
When did England last lose a game against European o position?

Spain. A few months ago.

Hibbyradge
28-03-2016, 09:03 AM
Spain. A few months ago.

That's right. 2-0 to Spain in a friendly.

I forgot about that game otherwise I think they're unbeaten in about 2 years.

They're no mugs, despite what some folk would like to believe.

They're 9/1 for the Euros at present. If I could find a bet that they'd reach the semis, I'd take it.

I might even have a wee taste of the outright win.

Treadstone
28-03-2016, 09:14 AM
That's right. 2-0 to Spain in a friendly.

I forgot about that game otherwise I think they're unbeaten in about 2 years.

They're no mugs, despite what some folk would like to believe.

They're 9/1 for the Euros at present. If I could find a bet that they'd reach the semis, I'd take it.

I might even have a wee taste of the outright win.

9/1 is fair. They've never won a Euro knockout game outside England. Expanded tournament should give them a great chance to achieve that feat.

CockneyRebel
28-03-2016, 11:09 AM
My two big pals at ER are both English. They cringe themselves inside out every time the lazy nonsense is trotted out. Naturally this makes talkSport completely unlistenable and tabloids to be avoided at all costs.

Do you not "cringe yourself inside out" when the Scottish meeja do the same thing?

CorrieHibs
28-03-2016, 06:49 PM
I think England can reach the semi's. Providing Hodgson lets them play attacking football. England have a good pool of players. But can see him going back to the likes of milner and Rooney.

Hodgson should believe in his young squad. England have a lot to be excited about. I'm sure the Scottish media would be all over it if we had an exciting youthful squad.

AFKA5814_Hibs
28-03-2016, 07:17 PM
England do have a very good squad at the moment and probably have a team as good as anybody's in Europe at the moment, BUT what they don't have is a tournament winning mentality. The German's have that, as do the Spanish and the Italians and to an extent the French. England will likely get to the later stages, but beating Germany in a friendly and beating Germany in a tournament quarter or semi final is a totally different proposition.

Glory Lurker
28-03-2016, 07:38 PM
Someone's probably said this already, apols, haven't read the whole thread, but I thought it was a game of two halves. Germany were well on top first half but England were just excellent in the second, although it did look as if some of the Germans had switched off come the hour mark.

Total respect for the manner of the comeback, and some enjoyable football with it. I could almost not have a problem with them winning Euro 16,but I expect the hype that would accompany any increasing likelihood of that would have me wanting them punted!

AFKA5814_Hibs
28-03-2016, 07:45 PM
Someone's probably said this already, apols, haven't read the whole thread, but I thought it was a game of two halves. Germany were well on top first half but England were just excellent in the second, although it did look as if some of the Germans had switched off come the hour mark.

Total respect for the manner of the comeback, and some enjoyable football with it. I could almost not have a problem with them winning Euro 16,but I expect the hype that would accompany any increasing likelihood of that would have me wanting them punted!

It's highly unlikely that Germany would lose a 2-0 lead to anybody in a major tournament. :agree:

Hi Heid Yin
28-03-2016, 08:10 PM
To be fair England did very well and the German football press is apparently raving about their impressive young team. They have an embarrassment of riches and should do well in the world cup.

I hope they go far in the tournament. We should be showing that we're bigger than having an anti-England chip on our shoulders. Its as bad as Yams being obsessed with everything about us. We can start being chippy about other countries once we acquire a tournament qualifying habit again.

:top marks

Lancs Harp
28-03-2016, 09:26 PM
England do have a very good squad at the moment and probably have a team as good as anybody's in Europe at the moment, BUT what they don't have is a tournament winning mentality. The German's have that, as do the Spanish and the Italians and to an extent the French. England will likely get to the later stages, but beating Germany in a friendly and beating Germany in a tournament quarter or semi final is a totally different proposition.

A lot of truth in that. On their day England are capable of beating anyone but to win a tournament you have to win several consecutive knock out matches against quality opposition. This is what I doubt England can do and have historically failed to do. On the flip side Spain were in a similar position until fairly recently so you never know.

As an Englishman Im just glad we are appearing to be moving in the right direction, with some exciting new comers moulding into what could be a more than decent team.

I would say down here there isn't an expectation to win anything but hope is certainly rising. I expect quite a few changes to be made for the game against Holland tomorrow and with the media you're only as ever good a your last game, which I'm sure is the same in Scotland as it is in England. I see Milner will be captaining the team, clearly Woy had far too much excitement the other day. :greengrin

Sir David Gray
28-03-2016, 09:37 PM
To be fair England did very well and the German football press is apparently raving about their impressive young team. They have an embarrassment of riches and should do well in the world cup.

I hope they go far in the tournament. We should be showing that we're bigger than having an anti-England chip on our shoulders. Its as bad as Yams being obsessed with everything about us. We can start being chippy about other countries once we acquire a tournament qualifying habit again.

It's got nothing to do with having a chip on my shoulder, I just hope they get pumped.

Hibrandenburg
29-03-2016, 05:25 AM
:agree: I enjoy watching England get pumped for pretty much the same reasons I enjoy watching hearts get pumped! Where's the problem.

Gus
29-03-2016, 06:41 AM
So England are world champions, the fans should have invaded the pitch and stole some turf and still talked about it in 2065.

Scotland is the only nation that doesn't really hype it's national team as it's had nothing to hype up about in 18 years other than friendlies and qualifying campaigns which have mostly been poor. (Well all of them
as the remit is to qualify)

England were superb the other night, imagine what Scotland would be like if you beat England at Wembley........

Will England win the Euro's, probably not, but we have a chance as we are there, like everyone else. Over 90 minutes, who knows. I await the cringeworthy ABE chat this summer, but I will enjoy it with NI, ROI and Wales

Scouse Hibee
29-03-2016, 06:53 AM
So England are world champions, the fans should have invaded the pitch and stole some turf and still talked about it in 2065.

Scotland is the only nation that doesn't really hype it's national team as it's had nothing to hype up about in 18 years other than friendlies and qualifying campaigns which have mostly been poor. (Well all of them
as the remit is to qualify)

England were superb the other night, imagine what Scotland would be like if you beat England at Wembley........

Will England win the Euro's, probably not, but we have a chance as we are there, like everyone else. Over 90 minutes, who knows. I await the cringeworthy ABE chat this summer, but I will enjoy it with NI, ROI and Wales

I don't have a problem with the ABE brigade,good on them I love the rivalry banter and the folk who genuinely tell you that they just love to see England get pumped. It's the ones who use the press and media excuse that piss me off, just say it how it is,you're Scottish and want England your big rivals to get pumped in whatever sport they play. .....I get that,no problem.

superfurryhibby
29-03-2016, 07:13 AM
So England are world champions, the fans should have invaded the pitch and stole some turf and still talked about it in 2065.

Scotland is the only nation that doesn't really hype it's national team as it's had nothing to hype up about in 18 years other than friendlies and qualifying campaigns which have mostly been poor. (Well all of them
as the remit is to qualify)

England were superb the other night, imagine what Scotland would be like if you beat England at Wembley........

Will England win the Euro's, probably not, but we have a chance as we are there, like everyone else. Over 90 minutes, who knows. I await the cringeworthy ABE chat this summer, but I will enjoy it with NI, ROI and Wales


Do you await the ABE chat so you can come on here and offer thougt provoking insight on the nature of sporting rivalry.

Gus
29-03-2016, 07:27 AM
I don't have a problem with the ABE brigade,good on them I love the rivalry banter and the folk who genuinely tell you that they just love to see England get pumped. It's the ones who use the press and media excuse that piss me off, just say it how it is,you're Scottish and want England your big rivals to get pumped in whatever sport they play. .....I get that,no problem.

I agree

Gus
29-03-2016, 07:28 AM
Do you await the ABE chat so you can come on here and offer thougt provoking insight on the nature of sporting rivalry.

Exactly what I'm waiting for

blackpoolhibs
30-03-2016, 06:41 AM
World domination on the back burner for a while now. :greengrin

Thecat23
30-03-2016, 07:12 AM
So England are world champions, the fans should have invaded the pitch and stole some turf and still talked about it in 2065.

Scotland is the only nation that doesn't really hype it's national team as it's had nothing to hype up about in 18 years other than friendlies and qualifying campaigns which have mostly been poor. (Well all of them
as the remit is to qualify)

England were superb the other night, imagine what Scotland would be like if you beat England at Wembley........

Will England win the Euro's, probably not, but we have a chance as we are there, like everyone else. Over 90 minutes, who knows. I await the cringeworthy ABE chat this summer, but I will enjoy it with NI, ROI and Wales

I've nothing against England, but you talk about press not hyping us up. It's the total opposite down there. Pile the pressure on saying "we will win it" then when you fail the press go to town on the players and manager.

Talk about two faced the English press are right up there.

Mr White
30-03-2016, 07:15 AM
Beaten at home by the poorest dutch side in 50 years who finished below the czech republic, iceland and turkey in qualification. It's just as well it was a meaningless friendly as that's even more embarrassing for england than chucking a 2 goal lead at home to mediocre opposition was for the germans on saturday :greengrin

Bishop Hibee
30-03-2016, 07:43 AM
ABE and proud! Hup Holland!

stoneyburn hibs
30-03-2016, 10:43 AM
Beaten at home by the poorest dutch side in 50 years who finished below the czech republic, iceland and turkey in qualification. It's just as well it was a meaningless friendly as that's even more embarrassing for england than chucking a 2 goal lead at home to mediocre opposition was for the germans on saturday :greengrin


Well when you put it like that lol.

I'm firmly in the ABE camp regarding anything, checked both shoulders and they appear to be fine.

HUTCHYHIBBY
30-03-2016, 12:24 PM
I'm firmly in the ABE camp regarding anything, checked both shoulders and they appear to be fine.

Me too but, for some reason I quite enjoy them winning at cricket.

HUTCHYHIBBY
30-03-2016, 04:47 PM
Me too but, for some reason I quite enjoy them winning at cricket.

Good win v NZ in todays T20 Semi.

Smartie
30-03-2016, 04:57 PM
I reckon it was a good couple of results for England.

A good result and performance to give them belief and a poor result to temper the expectation and protect against complacency.

I could see them doing well this summer. They have an opportunity to play a team full of young, fast players whose careers are on an upward trajectory and for the first time in years they don't have to work out how to keep a bunch of over-rated superstars happy (maybe other than Rooney).

As long as Woy has the balls to keep Rooney out the team then I could see them doing very well. They're maybe a quality centre-half short but they're generally a solid team.

cabbageandribs1875
30-03-2016, 05:02 PM
so, goed gedaan Holland :aok:







ABE

Onion
30-03-2016, 05:15 PM
I reckon it was a good couple of results for England.

A good result and performance to give them belief and a poor result to temper the expectation and protect against complacency.

I could see them doing well this summer. They have an opportunity to play a team full of young, fast players whose careers are on an upward trajectory and for the first time in years they don't have to work out how to keep a bunch of over-rated superstars happy (maybe other than Rooney).

As long as Woy has the balls to keep Rooney out the team then I could see them doing very well. They're maybe a quality centre-half short but they're generally a solid team.

:agree: Those two results should give Englandshire some confidence going into the tournament. Problem is and always has been the media who love to build Ingerland up almost as much as they love to assassinate them. Roy H is an intelligent guy and good at dealing with the press, but as soon as Westminster FC win their first game, the media will be slobbering all over their latest batch of Masters of the Universe... until it collapses in a sorry mess courtesy of the Germans :greengrin

Mr White
30-03-2016, 05:21 PM
I reckon it was a good couple of results for England.

A good result and performance to give them belief and a poor result to temper the expectation and protect against complacency.

I could see them doing well this summer. They have an opportunity to play a team full of young, fast players whose careers are on an upward trajectory and for the first time in years they don't have to work out how to keep a bunch of over-rated superstars happy (maybe other than Rooney).

As long as Woy has the balls to keep Rooney out the team then I could see them doing very well. They're maybe a quality centre-half short but they're generally a solid team.
You think including their all time record scorer weakens them?

Treadstone
30-03-2016, 05:27 PM
You think including their all time record scorer weakens them?

I agree with Smartie.

Mr White
30-03-2016, 05:32 PM
I agree with Smartie.

On what basis? They have some great options up front but rooney is the only one who has been there and done it at that level. I don't see how his exclusion strengthens them. But tbh i don't really care as i hope they go out on pens in the first knock out stage :greengrin

Wee Effen Bee
30-03-2016, 05:37 PM
It's got nothing to do with having a chip on my shoulder, I just hope they get pumped.

I am a bit ABE and a lot of it is due to the press and pundits such as Ian Wright. I remember him saying it was OK for Michael Owen? to dive as "...everyone does it against us!" In saying that, I do want them to do well in tournaments as it helps retain my interest in the competition. I also want domestic English teams to progress when they are in Europe: Yes, I am a bit confused!:confused:

Treadstone
30-03-2016, 05:43 PM
On what basis? They have some great options up front but rooney is the only one who has been there and done it at that level. I don't see how his exclusion strengthens them. But tbh i don't really care as i hope they go out on pens in the first knock out stage :greengrin

Rooney on the downgrade. Always been a streaky player but now the barren runs are longer and the scoring ones shorter. Eleven months between scoring away in the EPL. 7 in 22 this season with 2 pens. Already talk of Alli playing left to accommodate Rooney. Kane is a better player currently. Reputation shouldn't command a place over contribution.

Mr White
30-03-2016, 05:47 PM
Rooney on the downgrade. Always been a streaky player but now the barren runs are longer and the scoring ones shorter. Eleven months between scoring away in the EPL. 7 in 22 this season with 2 pens. Already talk of Alli playing left to accommodate Rooney. Kane is a better player currently. Reputation shouldn't command a place over contribution.
Actually i agree with that in that picking the team around him and shifting others to accommodate him wouldn't make any sense but then neither would completely discounting him offer any advantage imo. A lot will depend on his form in the last part of the season after his injury but i think roy would be daft to completely exclude him. What with his 51 goals in 109 internationals.

Treadstone
30-03-2016, 05:58 PM
Actually i agree with that in that picking the team around him and shifting others to accommodate him wouldn't make any sense but then neither would completely discounting him offer any advantage imo. A lot will depend on his form in the last part of the season after his injury but i think roy would be daft to completely exclude him.

Rooney has barely been a factor in tournaments for England since he burst onto the scene in 2004. Automatic pick in those years. Not so now. England have better options.

Mr White
30-03-2016, 06:02 PM
Rooney has barely been a factor in tournaments for England since he burst onto the scene in 2004. Automatic pick in those years. Not so now. England have better options.

He scored against Uruguay in the wc 2 years ago right? He might not have set them alight but he has the experience of major tournaments kane vardy etc don't. I'm not saying that makes him an automatic starter but discounting him completely seems a bit counter-productive. Plus he offers a decent option as an attacking midfielder playing behind a couple of the younger attacking players.

Treadstone
30-03-2016, 06:06 PM
He scored against Uruguay in the wc 2 years ago right? He might not have set them alight but he has the experience of major tournaments kane vardy etc don't. I'm not saying that makes him an automatic starter but discounting him completely seems a bit counter-priductive.

One tournament goal since 2004. Defoe has better record this season, experience and same tournament goals in last ten years. Does he go ?

Mr White
30-03-2016, 06:07 PM
One tournament goal since 2004. Defoe has better record this season, experience and same tournament goals in last ten years. Does he go ?

Aye, hopefully.

Treadstone
30-03-2016, 06:09 PM
Aye, hopefully.

Made me laugh.

Mr White
30-03-2016, 06:12 PM
One tournament goal since 2004. Defoe has better record this season, experience and same tournament goals in last ten years. Does he go ?

He scored in 2012 too but it's irrelevant. He's a quality player and i reckon roy will use him if he's available.

Smartie
30-03-2016, 07:18 PM
Rooney still has something to offer but it's bending over backwards to accommodate players who have "been there and done it all in the past" over men in form or the best player for the job that has been England's undoing in recent years.

They should take him, and not be afraid to use him if necessary, but they need to fit him around the likes of Kane, Vardy and Delle Alli and not vice versa.

Mr White
30-03-2016, 07:40 PM
Rooney still has something to offer but it's bending over backwards to accommodate players who have "been there and done it all in the past" over men in form or the best player for the job that has been England's undoing in recent years.

They should take him, and not be afraid to use him if necessary, but they need to fit him around the likes of Kane, Vardy and Delle Alli and not vice versa.
Yeah I'd agree with that smartie :agree: