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ALF TUPPER
19-03-2016, 06:39 AM
All available in the next few weeks.

That's pleasing !!

😃 GGTTH

Spike Mandela
19-03-2016, 06:41 AM
All available in the next few weeks.

That's pleasing !!

 GGTTH

Officially or guesstiimates based on newspaper recovery times quoted?

ALF TUPPER
19-03-2016, 06:59 AM
Official guestimates all based on newspaper recovery times quoted 😉

Hopefully all be in contention - we'll need everyone 👍🏻

hibsbollah
19-03-2016, 07:17 AM
Injuries have been the main factor in our recent three game slump without a shadow of a doubt. Hanlon and McGeogh especially. And folk critical of Stubbs should take it on board more.

GreenCastle
19-03-2016, 07:27 AM
Will be like new signings.

Fans were having a go st Fyfie on here but since we lost him from the team we haven't been the same.

We desperately need Dylan and Hanlon available also.

Carmichael - he's hardly played this season right ? Looked good when he was involved so let's hope he comes back ready to go.

Hopefully Boyle and Farid get more game time also.

Tyler Durden
19-03-2016, 07:44 AM
Injuries have been the main factor in our recent three game slump without a shadow of a doubt. Hanlon and McGeogh especially. And folk critical of Stubbs should take it on board more.

I'm rarely a critic of Stubbs but wouldn't agree that 3/4 injuries is a valid reason for the recent slump. It's a squad game and everyone has injuries and suspensions. We fielded strong line ups against Morton and Dumbarton but we've been too reliant on a core group, there should've been more rotation earlier.

You have to look at Stubbs squad now and say we're heavy on strikers who are too similar. Dagnall in particular a strange signing. And letting Scott Martin and Stanton go on loan was also an error IMO

Ozyhibby
19-03-2016, 08:17 AM
I'm rarely a critic of Stubbs but wouldn't agree that 3/4 injuries is a valid reason for the recent slump. It's a squad game and everyone has injuries and suspensions. We fielded strong line ups against Morton and Dumbarton but we've been too reliant on a core group, there should've been more rotation earlier.

You have to look at Stubbs squad now and say we're heavy on strikers who are too similar. Dagnall in particular a strange signing. And letting Scott Martin and Stanton go on loan was also an error IMO

Stanton is just not good enough. And we are in the business of developing players and Martin needs game time every week, which is possibly the reason Stanton never made the grade. He's nearly 22 with only 62 senior games under his belt. That's nowhere near enough. Martin is 18 and now has 15. That's a lot more like it. There is a fair chance he will spend next season on loan as well and get another 40 under his belt before coming back to get his Hibs career underway properly.
We need to start producing players who are a little more battle ready.
If we get those players beck from injury and don't suffer anymore then I'm confident we go up in the play offs.


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Smartie
19-03-2016, 08:23 AM
Stanton is just not good enough. And we are in the business of developing players and Martin needs game time every week, which is possibly the reason Stanton never made the grade. He's nearly 22 with only 62 senior games under his belt. That's nowhere near enough. Martin is 18 and now has 15. That's a lot more like it. There is a fair chance he will spend next season on loan as well and get another 40 under his belt before coming back to get his Hibs career underway properly.
We need to start producing players who are a little more battle ready.
If we get those players beck from injury and don't suffer anymore then I'm confident we go up in the play offs.


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In a harsh world Stanton may not be good enough but do you not think we could do with him right now?

Since Stubbs appears to be hell-bent on playing this diamond do you not think that Stanton would be a better option that Keatings? Or if we're already playing Bartley, for Thomson?

I think we've been caught out for our lack of midfield cover recently. Stanton is certainly not awful, he's looked handy at times and whilst he may not be the long-term solution many of us thought/hoped he would be there have been a number of games recently where I've thought we really could have used him.

Personally I reckon our January transfer window was catastrophic, both arrivals and departures. We may yet get away with it but the majority of the moves simply haven't worked out. To be fair to Stubbs though it is the first transfer window of his that has been less than brilliant - he has done very will in this area so far.

Tyler Durden
19-03-2016, 08:30 AM
Stanton is just not good enough. And we are in the business of developing players and Martin needs game time every week, which is possibly the reason Stanton never made the grade. He's nearly 22 with only 62 senior games under his belt. That's nowhere near enough. Martin is 18 and now has 15. That's a lot more like it. There is a fair chance he will spend next season on loan as well and get another 40 under his belt before coming back to get his Hibs career underway properly.
We need to start producing players who are a little more battle ready.
If we get those players beck from injury and don't suffer anymore then I'm confident we go up in the play offs.


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Stanton isn't going to be as good as a Scott Allan or a Liam Henderson. But him and Handling are certainly good enough to be pitched in to beat Alloa, Livvy, Dumbarton to give other players a rest.

I agree on the obvious benefits of Martin getting out to play games, just a shame we couldn't invoke the Jambos only rule to recall him early

hibsbollah
19-03-2016, 08:30 AM
I'm rarely a critic of Stubbs but wouldn't agree that 3/4 injuries is a valid reason for the recent slump. It's a squad game and everyone has injuries and suspensions. We fielded strong line ups against Morton and Dumbarton but we've been too reliant on a core group, there should've been more rotation earlier.

You have to look at Stubbs squad now and say we're heavy on strikers who are too similar. Dagnall in particular a strange signing. And letting Scott Martin and Stanton go on loan was also an error IMO

Whatever Stubbs does, it's unrealistic to expect replacements to come on who can adequately replace a)Hanlon,(by far and away our best defender and most improved player I can remember) b) McGeough who has a unique ability to run at the back 4 and cause chaos. Fyvies injury has let Bartley shine but in general that doesnt happen. A player who will make a big impact will usually force his way into the team regardless. Even Celtc dont have a quality replacement for every position.

OtleyHibs
19-03-2016, 08:32 AM
Fyvie, McGeough and Hanlon would be big losses for any club to deal with for me as they are proven quality players.

Carmichael has looked good when I've seen him and would be great to have as a wide option.

Will be great to have them all back soon, hopefully our slump is over and we can kick on to have a great end of season and I reckon all players will have a big part to play with the fixture congestion we have

GGTTH

Spike Mandela
19-03-2016, 08:59 AM
I was beginning to think we'd be lucky to see McGeouch again this season. Anybody know his current estimated return date.

Jones28
19-03-2016, 08:59 AM
Was Carmicheal injured again?

Billy Whizz
19-03-2016, 09:34 AM
Was Carmicheal injured again?

Hammy

Diclonius
19-03-2016, 09:38 AM
Is El Alagui still fit?

Billy Whizz
19-03-2016, 09:40 AM
Is El Alagui still fit?

He's been on the bench for the last number of games, so he must be

IberianHibernian
19-03-2016, 10:37 AM
Could Harris ( 2 assists when he came on on Tuesday ) , Stanton or Martin be recalled after regular league season finishes for playoffs and cup final ( if not cuptied ) ? Might be useful in case of more injuries and suspensions .

blackpoolhibs
19-03-2016, 10:54 AM
Hanlon is the player we miss the most in my opinion, and with Fyvie nearly fit again he should step in for Thomson and give us a better engine and more quality going forward.

McGeouch is quality but we cant rely on him at all, hopefully his problems are sorted in the summer.

California-Hibs
19-03-2016, 11:40 AM
Could Harris ( 2 assists when he came on on Tuesday ) , Stanton or Martin be recalled after regular league season finishes for playoffs and cup final ( if not cuptied ) ? Might be useful in case of more injuries and suspensions .

The 3 players you mentioned are not good enough for the Hibs midfield.

Tom Hart RIP
19-03-2016, 11:56 AM
AS on Hibs TV says FF could feature tonight but if not certainly after international break. PH close but should be back for St Mirren game. DH available but needs to work on match fitness. DC waiting on word back from specialist and worryingly DMcG seeing specialist in London although he thinks he is OK but wants a second opinion.

Borderhibbie76
19-03-2016, 02:28 PM
AS on Hibs TV says FF could feature tonight but if not certainly after international break. PH close but should be back for St Mirren game. DH available but needs to work on match fitness. DC waiting on word back from specialist and worryingly DMcG seeing specialist in London although he thinks he is OK but wants a second opinion.
Wrong way round mate...Mcgeouch is doing fine and should be back for St Midden, it's carmichael seeing a 2nd specialist according to EEN

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Tom Hart RIP
19-03-2016, 06:45 PM
Wrong way round mate...Mcgeouch is doing fine and should be back for St Midden, it's carmichael seeing a 2nd specialist according to EEN

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EEN has it wrong. Stubbs said Dylan heading to London next week to see same specialist that Carmichael has been seeing. Dylan thinks he is ok but Stubbs wants him to see the specialist to get a second opinion. Hope he is back for St M game though

truehibernian
19-03-2016, 06:49 PM
Hanlon is the player we miss the most in my opinion, and with Fyvie nearly fit again he should step in for Thomson and give us a better engine and more quality going forward.

McGeouch is quality but we cant rely on him at all, hopefully his problems are sorted in the summer.

Agree with all of that.

The_Horde
19-03-2016, 06:51 PM
Hanlon is the player we miss the most in my opinion, and with Fyvie nearly fit again he should step in for Thomson and give us a better engine and more quality going forward.

McGeouch is quality but we cant rely on him at all, hopefully his problems are sorted in the summer.

Disagree entirely. Our midfield is what we miss massively.

ancient hibee
19-03-2016, 06:54 PM
There's one thing sure regardless of which league we're in any signings will have to have a far more rigorous medical that this season's incomers.We just can't afford to have players who don't play.It's quite obvious that McGeoch and Carmichael had long term problems when signed.Although ElAlgui was unlucky with his injury I read today that he has only started 24 games in 4 seasons-it's just not good enough.

rotherhamrob
19-03-2016, 07:12 PM
Disagree entirely. Our midfield is what we miss massively.

100% this.any team in the championship and most in the premier would miss players like henderson, mgeough, fyvvie, here's hoping they are all available for the play-offs.

Smartie
19-03-2016, 07:44 PM
Disagree entirely. Our midfield is what we miss massively.

I disagree with both of you.

We miss all of them equally and we miss them horribly.

I don't think we'd be losing the goals we've been losing if Hanlon was in the team.

I don't think the goals we've been losing would matter so much of we had Fyvie and McGeouch in the team - we'd be scoring more.

These players are a huge, huge loss for us. All of them.