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greenlex
18-02-2016, 05:46 PM
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3pm
18-02-2016, 05:48 PM
Is that Cummings?

Edit - Naw. Get it now!

ACLeith
18-02-2016, 05:51 PM
Karma's a bitch, eh, Robbie?

Monts
18-02-2016, 06:04 PM
Should've subbed her on :greengrin

JimBHibees
18-02-2016, 06:09 PM
Better view from down here. :greengrin

NAE NOOKIE
18-02-2016, 06:09 PM
Should've subbed her on :greengrin

I'm now so convinced of the woman's competence that if she had I would have expected nothing less than a hat trick from her :greengrin

21.05.2016
18-02-2016, 06:22 PM
Brilliant to see her pitch side after the game taking in the incredible atmosphere. She must have felt a great deal of personal satisfaction as this club is back to having special nights like that now and a lot of that is down to her and the changes shes made.


Thank you Leaann, hope you enjoyed tuesday night as much as we did :thumbsup:

Jdawg
18-02-2016, 06:25 PM
She is our best signing so far!!

LaMotta
18-02-2016, 06:26 PM
After the Cummings sending off Leeann and Jason were standing side by side, watching from the office window inside the stadium at the back of the Lower West. They were jumping about like dafties when the final whistle went!

BOB MARLEYS DUG
18-02-2016, 06:28 PM
After the Cummings sending off Leeann and Jason were standing side by side, watching from the office window inside the stadium at the back of the Lower West. They were jumping about like dafties when the final whistle went!

Class!!

21.05.2016
18-02-2016, 06:28 PM
After the Cummings sending off Leeann and Jason were standing side by side, watching from the office window inside the stadium at the back of the Lower West. They were jumping about like dafties when the final whistle went!

:thumbsup:

Stantons Angel
18-02-2016, 06:35 PM
Brilliant to see her pitch side after the game taking in the incredible atmosphere. She must have felt a great deal of personal satisfaction as this club is back to having special nights like that now and a lot of that is down to her and the changes shes made.


Thank you Leaann, hope you enjoyed tuesday night as much as we did :thumbsup:


I have to agree with all you say here.
I was looking at that picture last night and thinking that she must have been looking around and thinking " i made this happen" and so she did!

keep the faith
18-02-2016, 06:38 PM
It's time for another one of your posts leanne. What you thinking??? 😊

cabbageandribs1875
18-02-2016, 06:39 PM
15,500 home fans on tuesday, what will she be like seeing/hearing double that in the cup final :cb

hibees 7062
18-02-2016, 06:39 PM
She is our best signing so far!!

Not so long ago I was asked what she's done for Hibs

LaMotta
18-02-2016, 06:40 PM
After the Cummings sending off Leeann and Jason were standing side by side, watching from the office window inside the stadium at the back of the Lower West. They were jumping about like dafties when the final whistle went!


Class!!


:thumbsup:

Also if Leeann is looking in I apologise for:

a/ On clocking you both, shrieking and pointing like a teenage girl who had just seen Harry and Louis from One Direction
b/ Banging the window loudly for no apparent reason
c/ Waving at you both and trying to take a picture
d/ The bad words about James Keatings following his sitter miss
e/ Blowing kisses at you after the relief of the final whistle seconds later

In my defence I'd being drinking strong cider all afternoon :greengrin

iwasthere1972
18-02-2016, 06:41 PM
Karma's a bitch, eh, Robbie?

You should have gone to Specsavers.

Carheenlea
18-02-2016, 06:47 PM
Of all the great images from Tuesday night, that picture was my favourite. I don`t know if she was thinking of anything in particular or just soaking up what was an emotion charged atmosphere after what was a physically and mentally draining second half (for both players and fans!)

greenlex
18-02-2016, 06:58 PM
Of all the great images from Tuesday night, that picture was my favourite. I don`t know if she was thinking of anything in particular or just soaking up what was an emotion charged atmosphere after what was a physically and mentally draining second half (for both players and fans!)

Mine too. A few weeks after agreeing to take charge she really must have been thinking what the hell have I done. Bet that's not the case now.

Weststandwanab
18-02-2016, 07:05 PM
She is our best signing so far!!

I echo the opinion hotly followed by Stubbsy

Weststandwanab
18-02-2016, 07:09 PM
It's time for another one of your posts leanne. What you thinking??? 😊

No just enjoy the time to post is either when we gain promotion or the unmentionable

bigwheel
18-02-2016, 07:21 PM
She is our best signing so far!!


Unpopular opinion here I suspect.... She has certainly engaged with the fan base, and her focus on the community activity is clear - Including fan investment. Real strides being made there...

Whilst she came in to a car crash in the footballing side...and she was part of the team who select Stubbs. It is Stubbs and his manager team who have resurrected this club.

In some ways Dempster had a lot of her hard work done for her. Most football club execs have major stadium work to do, or a training ground to build, or big commercial deals to seek. Actually, all of these major issues were in place when she arrived. What I would say is they (and she) have been very good at supporting Stubbs with the right budget so far.

To me she is doing a good job. don't know yet if it's a great job... Certainly a whole lot more engaging and passionate than previous incumbents have been. But to suggest her role as a good football exec is our best signing seems bizarre. Stubbs and his team have done much more than any of the suits have done for this club.

ACLeith
18-02-2016, 07:41 PM
You should have gone to Specsavers.
Eh?

MWHIBBIES
18-02-2016, 07:51 PM
She is thinking ''Imagine how good we'd be if all these fannies turned up every week'' :greengrin

Jdawg
18-02-2016, 07:54 PM
I echo the opinion hotly followed by Stubbsy

Call it a score draw :)

Jdawg
18-02-2016, 07:54 PM
Not so long ago I was asked what she's done for Hibs

Amazing that people with fully functioning eyes still can't see!

Jdawg
18-02-2016, 07:58 PM
Unpopular opinion here I suspect.... She has certainly engaged with the fan base, and her focus on the community activity is clear - Including fan investment. Real strides being made there...

Whilst she came in to a car crash in the footballing side...and she was part of the team who select Stubbs. It is Stubbs and his manager team who have resurrected this club.

In some ways Dempster had a lot of her hard work done for her. Most football club execs have major stadium work to do, or a training ground to build, or big commercial deals to seek. Actually, all of these major issues were in place when she arrived. What I would say is they (and she) have been very good at supporting Stubbs with the right budget so far.

To me she is doing a good job. don't know yet if it's a great job... Certainly a whole lot more engaging and passionate than previous incumbents have been. But to suggest her role as a good football exec is our best signing seems bizarre. Stubbs and his team have done much more than any of the suits have done for this club.

Infrastructure was all in place, I agree. However was it being utilised to anywhere near its full potential? I would say absolutely not.

Hibs were a shambles behind the scenes and on the pitch. She also set the team management structure too (I assume) plus hiring Stubbs and ensuring he was very well supported in the transfer market.

Maybe the alcohol I consumed post match is still in my system. :)

iwasthere1972
18-02-2016, 08:01 PM
Eh?

Well I thought you thought that it was Robbie Nelson sitting on the bench. Don't tell me it and I'm the one needing new specs. :greengrin

ACLeith
18-02-2016, 08:09 PM
Well I thought you thought that it was Robbie Nelson sitting on the bench. Don't tell me it and I'm the one needing new specs. :greengrin

IWT, how could you think any Hibee could confuse our heroine with the puppet? As she is looking towards the away dugout I was following the request of the OP. See you at the spec shop tomorrow? 😀

MyJo
18-02-2016, 08:12 PM
Unpopular opinion here I suspect.... She has certainly engaged with the fan base, and her focus on the community activity is clear - Including fan investment. Real strides being made there...

Whilst she came in to a car crash in the footballing side...and she was part of the team who select Stubbs. It is Stubbs and his manager team who have resurrected this club.

In some ways Dempster had a lot of her hard work done for her. Most football club execs have major stadium work to do, or a training ground to build, or big commercial deals to seek. Actually, all of these major issues were in place when she arrived. What I would say is they (and she) have been very good at supporting Stubbs with the right budget so far.

To me she is doing a good job. don't know yet if it's a great job... Certainly a whole lot more engaging and passionate than previous incumbents have been. But to suggest her role as a good football exec is our best signing seems bizarre. Stubbs and his team have done much more than any of the suits have done for this club.

Leeann is also responsible for setting up the structure behind the scenes that supports Stubbs with player recruitment.

Remember when she first took over and it was revealed we only had 3 scouts on the books for the entire club or something ridiculous like that, now we have an entire team and its thanks to that we are able to furnish Stubbsy with signings like McGinn, Henderson, Bartley, McGregor & Stokes.

iwasthere1972
18-02-2016, 08:13 PM
IWF, how could you think any Hibee could confuse our heroine with the puppet? As she is looking towards the away dugout I was following the request of the OP. See you at the spec shop tomorrow? 

Well in my defence I was viewing it on my phone. Couldn't work out why Robbie was sitting in the home dug out either. Sorry Leeann if you're viewing this thread.

Sammy7nil
18-02-2016, 08:15 PM
Leeann is also responsible for setting up the structure behind the scenes that supports Stubbs with player recruitment.

Remember when she first took over and it was revealed we only had 3 scouts on the books for the entire club or something ridiculous like that, now we have an entire team and its thanks to that we are able to furnish Stubbsy with signings like McGinn, Henderson, Bartley, McGregor & Stokes.

Dont tell me we were scouting Stokes and McGregor :greengrin i could do that :aok:

Peevemor
18-02-2016, 08:35 PM
I reckon that in the photo she's both knackered and delighted at the same time. We've not long finished a fairly busy transfer window added to which there's been the additional organisation required for the semi at Tynie and this week's replay. I would think that those behind the scenes at ER are feeling as done-in and as elated as the players. The past few weeks have been a real test that everyone at the club has passed with flying colours. I think we can even forgive the draw on a miserable night and a dodgy pitch at Livingston. I hope people will be able to bear all this in mind the next time we don't win a match, instead of the usual suspects' kneejerk radgeness.

Franck Stanton
18-02-2016, 08:48 PM
Don't really know if the upturn in my Clubs fortunes are down to any one individual, however, am thankful for whoever is due the credit for restoring the pride I feel in my Club just now. Really great time to be a Hibby. Onwards and upwards.

0762
18-02-2016, 08:49 PM
Unpopular opinion here I suspect.... She has certainly engaged with the fan base, and her focus on the community activity is clear - Including fan investment. Real strides being made there...

Whilst she came in to a car crash in the footballing side...and she was part of the team who select Stubbs. It is Stubbs and his manager team who have resurrected this club.

In some ways Dempster had a lot of her hard work done for her. Most football club execs have major stadium work to do, or a training ground to build, or big commercial deals to seek. Actually, all of these major issues were in place when she arrived. What I would say is they (and she) have been very good at supporting Stubbs with the right budget so far.

To me she is doing a good job. don't know yet if it's a great job... Certainly a whole lot more engaging and passionate than previous incumbents have been. But to suggest her role as a good football exec is our best signing seems bizarre. Stubbs and his team have done much more than any of the suits have done for this club.

I agree the hard work has been done by AS and his coaching staff for me. What the Board and I give them credit for this as a group (not just LD), have done is give AS the budget to put together a good squad. A good Premiership Squad.

Football CEO's and Board Directors don't win matches. The manager and players do that and they should rightfully be given the credit for it.

In any company, and Football is no different, the CEO is there to run the business side of things and the Board there to support the CEO and the Management Team giving direction and specialist support when needed in the operation of the business to maximise revenue. A Board are therefore usually judged by a balance sheet - last seasons numbers weren't good, but no surprise there given where we were. A Cup Final (maybe 2!!) should improve these numbers this year but we need to see improvements on the revenue side of the club when you strip cup performance. Better attendances, increased revenue. Without better financial performance off the pitch things won't be able to be sustained on it unless someone's throwing in cash year on year.

The infrastructure of our Club is second to none in Scotland and LD doesn't need to worry about that because that hard work has already been done. This infrastructure will serve the club for years to come. Having visited Tynecastle twice in recent weeks they have a country mile to catch up on what we have. Hearts have still to address their ageing problem of a main stand and at a time when construction costs are going through the roof again the cost to replace that asbestos ridden wreck will cost them dear.

mca
18-02-2016, 09:28 PM
She is our best signing so far!!


I echo the opinion hotly followed by Stubbsy

LD was Doing a Great job at Motherwell - With A Seriously Limited Budget...

It was a Good Signing for RP... And he knew it... :wink:

silverhibee
18-02-2016, 09:46 PM
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She was known to do this when she was at Motherwell.

Spoke about her at the weekend, said she had went a bit quiet which i think is a good sign, everything going well, let Allan get on with the good things, she backed Stubbs in the window and he is doing the damage along with the players.

Penny for her thoughts.

The elephant won't find me down here. :greengrin

hibees 7062
18-02-2016, 09:48 PM
LD was Doing a Great job at Motherwell - With A Seriously Limited Budget...

It was a Good Signing for RP... And he knew it... :wink:

Look at the state of them since she left

Hibernian Verse
18-02-2016, 10:00 PM
Look at the state of them since she left

Petrie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(And it actually is his fault :greengrin)

Leith Mo
18-02-2016, 10:21 PM
I was fortunate to be in Leeann's company at a midweek game last the same night as Chelsea playing in a European game and her knowledge and passion for watching the game (extra time vs PSG? but after the midweek Livi game) shone through. Firmly believe never mind "the wind of change" on a more personal level to what our Club means she is a "breath of fresh air" as well as being a hurricane when needed. All I can say is a big thank you to Leeann and of course everyone connected. Love the attitude of working WITH your colleagues at all levels whilst working FOR Our Club.

leithsansiro
18-02-2016, 10:28 PM
Unpopular opinion here I suspect.... She has certainly engaged with the fan base, and her focus on the community activity is clear - Including fan investment. Real strides being made there...

Whilst she came in to a car crash in the footballing side...and she was part of the team who select Stubbs. It is Stubbs and his manager team who have resurrected this club.

In some ways Dempster had a lot of her hard work done for her. Most football club execs have major stadium work to do, or a training ground to build, or big commercial deals to seek. Actually, all of these major issues were in place when she arrived. What I would say is they (and she) have been very good at supporting Stubbs with the right budget so far.

To me she is doing a good job. don't know yet if it's a great job... Certainly a whole lot more engaging and passionate than previous incumbents have been. But to suggest her role as a good football exec is our best signing seems bizarre. Stubbs and his team have done much more than any of the suits have done for this club.


I would agree with this to an extent. That said, I think she has done a load of stuff behind the scenes in terms of trying to re-engage the club with the fans and community as a whole.

Jdawg
18-02-2016, 10:52 PM
I agree the hard work has been done by AS and his coaching staff for me. What the Board and I give them credit for this as a group (not just LD), have done is give AS the budget to put together a good squad. A good Premiership Squad.

Football CEO's and Board Directors don't win matches. The manager and players do that and they should rightfully be given the credit for it.

In any company, and Football is no different, the CEO is there to run the business side of things and the Board there to support the CEO and the Management Team giving direction and specialist support when needed in the operation of the business to maximise revenue. A Board are therefore usually judged by a balance sheet - last seasons numbers weren't good, but no surprise there given where we were. A Cup Final (maybe 2!!) should improve these numbers this year but we need to see improvements on the revenue side of the club when you strip cup performance. Better attendances, increased revenue. Without better financial performance off the pitch things won't be able to be sustained on it unless someone's throwing in cash year on year.

The infrastructure of our Club is second to none in Scotland and LD doesn't need to worry about that because that hard work has already been done. This infrastructure will serve the club for years to come. Having visited Tynecastle twice in recent weeks they have a country mile to catch up on what we have. Hearts have still to address their ageing problem of a main stand and at a time when construction costs are going through the roof again the cost to replace that asbestos ridden wreck will cost them dear.

Infrastructure was there but the club from top to bottom was a shambles.

theonlywayisup
18-02-2016, 11:17 PM
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"Women's work is never done".

You ain't seen nothing yet!

KeithTheHibby
19-02-2016, 08:18 AM
Playing devils advocate here however should Rod Petrie and the board who overseen our relegation not get a bit of credit for appointing Leanne Dempster and having the foresight to change the clubs infrastructure and direction?
I know Leanne, George Craig and Stubbs have all been excellent appointments and it feels like a different club however it had to start somewhere and with someone I guess:wink:

jacomo
19-02-2016, 08:50 AM
Playing devils advocate here however should Rod Petrie and the board who overseen our relegation not get a bit of credit for appointing Leanne Dempster and having the foresight to change the clubs infrastructure and direction?
I know Leanne, George Craig and Stubbs have all been excellent appointments and it feels like a different club however it had to start somewhere and with someone I guess:wink:

Fair enough. Shame we had to wait so long for them to make the change though.

lyonhibs
19-02-2016, 09:04 AM
Playing devils advocate here however should Rod Petrie and the board who overseen our relegation not get a bit of credit for appointing Leanne Dempster and having the foresight to change the clubs infrastructure and direction?
I know Leanne, George Craig and Stubbs have all been excellent appointments and it feels like a different club however it had to start somewhere and with someone I guess:wink:

I'd hesitate to call it "foresight" by the time he actually made the call. By then, the need for comprehensive change was waving its boaby in his face whilst singing the Hearts song.

Foresight would have been to make these changes sometime after Mixu left and we -as we now know with hindsight - really entered the cycle of doom.

Yorkshire HFC
19-02-2016, 09:14 AM
For me, it's the players - a football team is a team of players - that's who inspires the fans - not an accountant or businessman.

I didn't grow up wanting to be Eddie Turnbull or Tom Hart - I wanted to be Ally McLeod or Jackie McNamara.

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19-02-2016, 12:11 PM
I would agree with this to an extent. That said, I think she has done a load of stuff behind the scenes in terms of trying to re-engage the club with the fans and community as a whole.

Best signing? Best appointment? Of course she is. She had Motherwell buzzing and when she left there was real fear among the Motherwell fans as to what would come next. With her they were a growing force in the League; now they're struggling. Without her - with RP and his cronies at the helm, Hibs were rapidly becoming everybody's bitch. Now Hibs are a well-run club with a team that plays good football and a feeling of optimism in the club and support.

(Or at least that section of the support that doesn't spend its time actively seeking out reasons to whinge and moan and bad-mouth players, coaches, and senior management. Unfortunately, we have a LOT of them at ER; we always have had.)


For me, it's the players - a football team is a team of players - that's who inspires the fans - not an accountant or businessman.

I didn't grow up wanting to be Eddie Turnbull or Tom Hart - I wanted to be Ally McLeod or Jackie McNamara.

Matt Busby, Manchester Utd.
Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley Liverpool.
Jock Stein, Celtic.
Alex Ferguson, Aberdeen and Man Utd.
Bill Nicholson, Spurs.
Herbert Chapman, Bertie Mee, Arsene Wenger, Arsenal.
Brian Clough, Nottingham Forest.
Willie McCartney, Hugh Shaw, Hibernian.

All long-term managers with a huge commitment to their clubs and a massive influence on the way their teams played.

Every one achieved infinitely more for their clubs and their supporters than any single individual player.

Each one proof that the right appointment of the man (or woman) at the top of the club pyramid can change the club beyond imagining.

Of course the players are the people the fans adulate and with whom they identify.

And it doesn't matter how efficiently or economically the club's being run by the chairman if the team's going down the tubes.

I can think of a formerly prominent football team - former League champions, European competitors, contributing players to the national team - with up-to-the minute stadium and training facilities and a beautifully-balanced set of accounts meticulously presented to the shareholders each year at a well-run AGM? That had a team the mere mention of which had most other football supporters in the country laughing themselves silly, it was bad?

Hibs.

We changed the management team regularly - every 18 months at the latest.

Each new management team then changed the playing staff - every freakin transfer window, in fact, IIRC.

Directors came - and went.

Everything changed, and nothing changed.

Even Albion Rovers fans were laughing at Hibs. And looking forward to playing us, and beating us, when we finally sank to their level and below.

I don't know how we got into that situation, and the immediate aftermath of a Cup win over Hearts and with a League Cup Final in prospect, as well as an ongoing campaign to gain promotion to the Premiership, isn't the time to start throwing blame about.

Something radical had to change at ER, and Leeann (it seems to me) has been the most obvious agent of that change, along with Alan Stubbs, along with a whole host of good appointments made over the past 20 months.

So yes, I'd say her appointment was the most important appointment made by RP and STF in the last decade at least at ER.

(Apologies for going on as long - I keep thinking of something else to say, and then I forget how to stop.)

KeithTheHibby
19-02-2016, 12:16 PM
I'd hesitate to call it "foresight" by the time he actually made the call. By then, the need for comprehensive change was waving its boaby in his face whilst singing the Hearts song.

Foresight would have been to make these changes sometime after Mixu left and we -as we now know with hindsight - really entered the cycle of doom.

I get that change was needed, as you say that much was obvious however making changes and getting them right is another story.

Anyway it's great to be a Hibby now and I can now only see good things happening at the club now regardless of who is pulling the strings.

proud_and_green
19-02-2016, 12:37 PM
Leanne is without doubt the most important signing/appointment we have made in a long time.

If she had not been appointed but AS had I suspect that he would not have done half as well as he has.

Leanne has created the conditions for the club to do well and to allow AS to operate to the optimum.

ACLeith
19-02-2016, 12:40 PM
(Apologies for going on as long - I keep thinking of something else to say, and then I forget how to stop.)

You were a Minister though, Doddie, that just goes with the territory surely :wink:

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19-02-2016, 12:53 PM
You were a Minister though, Doddie, that just goes with the territory surely :wink:


I still am - retired, but still working on and off.

And yes, I blush to admit it. You're absolutely right. :blushie:

weecounty hibby
19-02-2016, 05:41 PM
Great post Doddie. Although I have always been proud to be a Hibby, i've not always been proud of the team or the way the club was run. Right now I am immensely proud of absolutely everything about Hibernian Football Club. There is something fantastic building here and I just hope that we continue to grow and develop as a club and team. We have all the foundations in place we just need to keep on building

HibbiesandtheBaddies
19-02-2016, 05:52 PM
Well I thought you thought that it was Robbie Nelson sitting on the bench. Don't tell me it and I'm the one needing new specs. :greengrin


Neilson would have been scurrying up the Western Approach road by the time that picture was taken :greengrin

Sergey
19-02-2016, 05:58 PM
Great post Doddie. Although I have always been proud to be a Hibby, i've not always been proud of the team or the way the club was run. Right now I am immensely proud of absolutely everything about Hibernian Football Club. There is something fantastic building here and I just hope that we continue to grow and develop as a club and team. We have all the foundations in place we just need to keep on building

We're in the 2'nd division of Scottish football. Huge karma if that rocks your boat.

I'm not immensely proud, but then again I don't happen to live in Clackmannanshire.

FranckSuzy
19-02-2016, 06:24 PM
Great post Doddie. Although I have always been proud to be a Hibby, i've not always been proud of the team or the way the club was run. Right now I am immensely proud of absolutely everything about Hibernian Football Club. There is something fantastic building here and I just hope that we continue to grow and develop as a club and team. We have all the foundations in place we just need to keep on building


We're in the 2'nd division of Scottish football. Huge karma if that rocks your boat.

I'm not immensely proud, but then again I don't happen to live in Clackmannanshire.

Yes, and as weecounty hibby also stated, we need to keep on building so I'm not really sure what your point is? :confused: We're in the Championship but you can only pee with the you-know-what you have.

Mind you, :top marks for not bringing non-league English football into at least one of your posts :devil:

Sergey
19-02-2016, 06:48 PM
Yes, and as weecounty hibby also stated, we need to keep on building so I'm not really sure what your point is? :confused: We're in the Championship but you can only pee with the you-know-what you have.

Mind you, :top marks for not bringing non-league English football into at least one of your posts :devil:

I think (at least I hope so) that we might be singing off the same hymn sheet.

Now to sell the Alloa game to the London Hibs lads :greengrin

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19-02-2016, 07:10 PM
At least the Albion Rovers boys I meet around Coatbridge have stopped laughing.

That's a BIG start.

greenlex
19-02-2016, 07:25 PM
I think (at least I hope so) that we might be singing off the same hymn sheet.

Now to sell the Alloa game to the London Hibs lads :greengrin

If they're real London Hibs lads it won't take much selling.

givescotlandfreedom
19-02-2016, 07:48 PM
Leeann's wearing unmistakeable expression of rage with CTU holders if you ask me.

Deansy
19-02-2016, 08:34 PM
Playing devils advocate here however should Rod Petrie and the board who overseen our relegation not get a bit of credit for appointing Leanne Dempster and having the foresight to change the clubs infrastructure and direction?
I know Leanne, George Craig and Stubbs have all been excellent appointments and it feels like a different club however it had to start somewhere and with someone I guess:wink:

Whoa - hold on here, let's not get too carried away !!. It was last chance saloon for RP and whether he knew how things would turn out by appointing her or whether he got lucky, don't forget WHY her appointment was necessary in the 1st place. Thanks to his leadership/decisions etc, we ended-up in the state we were in and why CHANGE ws necessary !