Falkirk game in doubt?

[Diclonius]

Heavy snow forecast for tomorrow night and it'll be snowing all day here on Sunday. Falkirk have a synthetic pitch but could mean hazardous conditions outside the ground? :dunno:

[DarrenSQH]

Do falkirk have heating for the park.

I played last night on a plastic pitch and it was frozen solid.

[MB62]

Do falkirk have heating for the park.

I played last night on a plastic pitch and it was frozen solid.

Strangely enough, I was just talking about this myself last night. Artificial surfaces are brutal to play on if frozen, although I must admit, my experience of it goes back quite a number of years and pitches nowadays are a bit better.

[Golden Bear]

It will be a real money spinner for both Clubs so I would think that Falkirk will do everything possible in order to ensure that the game goes ahead. You might even see some of their staff manning snowploughs on the surrounding roads.

[BoomtownHibees]

It will be a real money spinner for both Clubs so I would think that Falkirk will do everything possible in order to ensure that the game goes ahead. You might even see some of their staff manning snowploughs on the surrounding roads.

In what way will it be a money spinner for Hibs?

[Carheenlea]

In what way will it be a money spinner for Hibs?

Television?

[Golden Bear]

In what way will it be a money spinner for Hibs?

A share of the TV income?

[BoomtownHibees]

Television?

Is the TV money not already divided up between the clubs at the start of the season?

[lord bunberry]

A share of the TV income?
We don't get anything for league games on tv, the money is divided up and allocated according to your league position.

[Carheenlea]

Is the TV money not already divided up between the clubs at the start of the season?


We don't get anything for league games on tv, the money is divided up and allocated according to your league position.

Learn something new every day!

[007 Mickey Weir]

If it's snow on artificial will they not sort 'sweep' it off. Or have covers for the pitch?

[SeanWilson]

If it's snow on artificial will they not sort 'sweep' it off. Or have covers for the pitch?

Yeah, would have thought it would be fairly easy to stop an artificial pitch freezing or being covered in frost/snow? :confused:

[tartanhibee]

I'm in maddiston about 5 mins from the ground and it's been snowing for the last 20 mins and is starting to lie. Nothing to be concerned about at the moment but I'll keep you up to date.

[Billy Whizz]

I'm in maddiston about 5 mins from the ground and it's been snowing for the last 20 mins and is starting to lie. Nothing to be concerned about at the moment but I'll keep you up to date.

A flurry expected this afternoon, and then dry until ko time

[Falkirk Bairn]

Falkirk tweeted earlier to say they envisage no issues with the pitch. The pitch has had snow before and was cleared fine with no issues.

[Sir David Gray]

It's snowing very lightly in Falkirk just now and has been over the last couple of hours.

I would be very surprised if the game's called off unless it gets drastically worse over the next 24 hours.

[Cod Boy]

Stenhousemuir game abandoned at half time

[Hibby Bairn]

Stenhousemuir abandoned at HT

[Hibby Bairn]

https://m.trafficscotland.org/trafficcameras/172?bm=False

Conditions at Bannockburn

[Allant1981]

Snow is getting heavier in falkirk

[Cod Boy]

Falkirk tweeted earlier to say they envisage no issues with the pitch. The pitch has had snow before and was cleared fine with no issues.

Travelling to game will probably decide not the pitch

[bigwheel]

on the basis that we can have 4 seasons in any hour in central Scotland...I wouldn't waste time analysing current conditions...maybe wait until tomorrow??

[Allant1981]

Travelling to game will probably decide not the pitch

Its right off the motorway so cant see that being an issue, the roads here are ok just now and usually are around the stadium as its next to a main road

[hibbypostie]

might not be a bad thing if stoke missed the deadline weather can be a big leveler

[tartanhibee]

We don't really need this game being off creating a fixture pile up. It's still snowing but hoping the game will go ahead.

[Billy]

Its right off the motorway so cant see that being an issue, the roads here are ok just now and usually are around the stadium as its next to a main road

I live just up the road from your location and I reckon that Grangemouth burns everything overhead, so we tend to get less snow etc than everyone else :greengrin

The amount of times I've driven over to Livi and wondered where all the snow had come from :greengrin

[mim]

Stenhousemuir abandoned at HT
Alloa now abandoned as well.

[Allant1981]

I live just up the road from your location and I reckon that Grangemouth burns everything overhead, so we tend to get less snow etc than everyone else :greengrin

The amount of times I've driven over to Livi and wondered where all the snow had come from :greengrin

I live just next to the inchyra hotel and say that about the BP all the time!!

[Baldy Foghorn]

Falkirk just tweeted that two of their groundsmen are working hard clearing the pitch at the moment.

[Hermit Crab]

Falkirk just tweeted that two of their groundsmen are working hard clearing the pitch at the moment.


Farting against thunder trying to clear a pitch during heavy snowfall, if there's any major doubt just call it off. We don't want another Morton scenario.

[Hermit Crab]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY2vgQPWUAAWfuw.jpg

[Kaff]

I suppose the big advantage with artificial surface is ability to shift snow with tractors etc, you're not going to wreck the playing surface as such.
Listening to reports from killie game and they had cleared pitch prematch with tractor and then had to keep lines clear with regular breaks during snowfall, would that be acceptable?

[ballengeich]

Falkirk just tweeted that two of their groundsmen are working hard clearing the pitch at the moment.

That sounds daft. The weather forecast is for the snow to stop fairly soon, so surely it would be better to leave the snow overnight as some protection against frost then clear it in the morning.

[Hermit Crab]

I suppose the big advantage with artificial surface is ability to shift snow with tractors etc, you're not going to wreck the playing surface as such.
Listening to reports from killie game and they had cleared pitch prematch with tractor and then had to keep lines clear with regular breaks during snowfall, would that be acceptable?


Depends on the tv schedule and if they have a another game on after it in case it drags on for too long. You can only sweep the lines so many times before you have to say enough is enough.

[Kaff]

Depends on the tv schedule and if they have a another game on after it in case it drags on for too long. You can only sweep the lines so many times before you have to say enough is enough.

Which is possibly/probably what happened in Alloa? I'm sure with them being in front they would have tried their best to keep things going.
True about the tv, Killie game finished well after the rest, i'm sure the 2.45pm ko is to shoehorn it between other fixtures

[Diclonius]

Falkirk is covered in snow right now. Not sure transport will be running tomorrow, I'll more than certainly be walking if the game's on.

[Hermit Crab]

Which is possibly/probably what happened in Alloa? I'm sure with them being in front they would have tried their best to keep things going.
True about the tv, Killie game finished well after the rest, i'm sure the 2.45pm ko is to shoehorn it between other fixtures


Our game tomorrow is 3pm kick off. :confused:

[Hermit Crab]

Falkirk is covered in snow right now. Not sure transport will be running tomorrow, I'll more than certainly be walking if the game's on.


Trains will be fine.

[Jack Hackett]

Trains will be fine.

Only if it's the right kind of snow :greengrin

[Hermit Crab]

Only if it's the right kind of snow :greengrin


Well they are running ok just now, like I said earlier if there's any doubt then just call it off now and save everybody the hassle.

[tartanhibee]

I think if the game was tonight it would be off but we're still 20 hours away from kick off. Sensible option is to call an early inspection about 1000 if the snow continues and make a call from there. This would only affect a minority if it get called off as I suspect most people will be travelling from the central belt for this.

[H18S NX]

Only if it's the right kind of snow :greengrin



:faf::faf:

[Hermit Crab]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY287GGWcAAvhiy.jpg

Thats the latest picture.

[Hermit Crab]

We are continuing to work hard to clear the pitch here, folks. We'll keep you updated #COYB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/COYB?src=hash)

[Pete]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY287GGWcAAvhiy.jpg

Thats the latest picture.

Go home mate. You're a bit early.

[blackpoolhibs]

Cant they just boil a kettle and pour it over the pitch, like i did with my windscreen this morning?

[Hermit Crab]

Go home mate. You're a bit early.


:rolleyes:

[green day]

We are continuing to work hard to clear the pitch here, folks. We'll keep you updated #COYB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/COYB?src=hash)

Am I being thick, but - its a plastic pitch, why dont they cover it with a great big tarpaulin and remove it on match days???

[Pete]

:rolleyes:

It was a joke but the same could actually be said about the guy clearing the pitch.

Why are they doing that roughly 20 hours before kick off?

[CB_NO3]

That could turn to ice tonight with temperatures dropping. Is ice easy to scrape of these 4G pitches?

[Jack Hackett]

Well they are running ok just now, like I said earlier if there's any doubt then just call it off now and save everybody the hassle.

Whooooosh :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Minus temperatures forecast tonight. My prediction is frozen pitch.........

[blackpoolhibs]

That could turn to ice tonight with temperatures dropping. Is ice easy to scrape of these 4G pitches?

Just use a CD case. :agree:

[Golden Bear]

Am I being thick, but - its a plastic pitch, why dont they cover it with a great big tarpaulin and remove it on match days???

Maybe that's what they intend doing ---------- after they've cleared the pitch.

:dunno:

[Pretty Boy]

That could turn to ice tonight with temperatures dropping. Is ice easy to scrape of these 4G pitches?

It used to be the case it was quite difficult to clear artificial pitches because the tiny black rubber balls used to give a bounce used to get caught up in the snow and swept off the pitch as well.

No idea if that's still the case with the newer generation of pitch though.

[Kojock]

Minus temperatures forecast tonight. My prediction is frozen pitch.........

That's why they will leave the snow on the pitch to stop the pitch from freezing.

[SaulGoodman]

Just use a CD case. :agree:

Garry Oconnor top tip.

[Baldy Foghorn]

That's why they will leave the snow on the pitch to stop the pitch from freezing.

The groundsmen are currently clearing the pitch of snow

[SeanWilson]

Garry Oconnor top tip.

😂😂😂

[blackpoolhibs]

Garry Oconnor top tip.


:tee hee:

[givescotlandfreedom]

A postponement could suit us if it allows us to get Stokes registered in time for the rearranged fixture.

[Kojock]

The groundsmen are currently clearing the pitch of snow

Strange, unless they have some sort of pitch protection. But then again I'm not a groundsman :agree:

[Danderhall Hibs]

Cant they just boil a kettle and pour it over the pitch, like i did with my windscreen this morning?

Don't know if you can do it with a pitch but you definitely shouldn't pour boiling water on your windscreen!

[blackpoolhibs]

Don't know if you can do it with a pitch but you definitely shouldn't do it pour boiling water on your windscreen!

I know, but admit it we all do. :greengrin

[Frogga]

Argh, this is only the 2nd away game I've bought tickets for this season - the other being the Morton one :violin::violin:

[3pm]

I know, but admit it we all do. :greengrin

I just started driving last year and haven't actually bought an ice scraper so have been caught out. I did a quick Google investigating ice scraper 'alternatives'.

Boiling water not recommended but pishing on it was suggested. Discretion advisable. Craig Thomson was my neighbour for a while. I suppose if he'd been sharp enough he could have said he was de-icing his windscreen when he got asked why he was exposing himself.

[hibs0666]

I just started driving last year and haven't actually bought an ice scraper so have been caught out. I did a quick Google investigating ice scraper 'alternatives'.

Boiling water not recommended but pishing on it was suggested. Discretion advisable. Craig Thomson was my neighbour for a while. I suppose if he'd been sharp enough he could have said he was de-icing his windscreen when he got asked why he was exposing himself.

In July? 😉

[Hibeesmad]

Falkirk have asked fans on Twitter to help out at 8am to clear the surrounding area

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

@falkirkbairns: We will continue to work throughout the night to clear the pitch. We would really appreciate any fan who could come down from 0730/0800 tomorrow morning with snow shovels to help clear the surrounding areas #COYB

[GreenCastle]

These 3G all weather pitches - just aren't all weather.

It actually damages the pitch if you use a tractor etc to take snow off as someone else pointed out you mess with the fibres and rubber granules.

So many 3G pitches in Scotland are poorly maintained - never brushed enough and as a result will need replacing sooner = not cheap.

[Hibee87]

Am I being thick? Why is there not a cover /tent on the pitch ???

[Kaff]

Our game tomorrow is 3pm kick off. :confused:

Yes, sorry, stupidly thought BT program start time was ko.

[WoreTheGreen]

Am I being thick? Why is there not a cover /tent on the pitch ???

What if every fan brings a can of deicer

[emerald green]

Some attendances today in our top league.

St J V Hamilton - 2,685

Partick v Dundee - 3,262

Kilmarnock v ICT - 2,937

Games postponed and/or abandoned.

Summer football or re-introduce winter shutdown maybe?

[hibby6270]

Argh, this is only the 2nd away game I've bought tickets for this season - the other being the Morton one :violin::violin:

Just think of the Loyalty Points though. :greengrin:wink:

[theonlywayisup]

Some attendances today in our top league.

St J V Hamilton - 2,685

Partick v Dundee - 3,262

Kilmarnock v ICT - 2,937

Games postponed and/or abandoned.

Summer football or re-introduce winter shutdown maybe?

They would still have got those attendances in the summer/spring/autumn.

[bingo70]

They would still have got those attendances in the summer/spring/autumn.

You don't know that as we've never tried it.

[theonlywayisup]

You don't know that as we've never tried it.

What.........we've never tried football in March, April, May, June, July, August, Sept, Oct & November in Scotland

[theonlywayisup]

Some attendances today in our top league.

St J V Hamilton - 2,685

Partick v Dundee - 3,262

Kilmarnock v ICT - 2,937

Games postponed and/or abandoned.

Summer football or re-introduce winter shutdown maybe?

Last time St J played Hamilton at home on 12th September 2015, the attendance was................ 2,648. Maybe that's all they will get irrespective of when they play each other.

[theonlywayisup]

Some attendances today in our top league.

St J V Hamilton - 2,685

Partick v Dundee - 3,262

Kilmarnock v ICT - 2,937

Games postponed and/or abandoned.

Summer football or re-introduce winter shutdown maybe?

Let me see, the last time that Partick played Dundee on the 12th September, the attendance was...........wait for it, 2,946.

All this rubbish about attendances will be higher in the 'summer' time is total guff.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Falkirk tweeting progress being made, due to a band of volunteers this Evening

[jacomo]

Last time St J played Hamilton at home on 12th September 2015, the attendance was................ 2,648. Maybe that's all they will get irrespective of when they play each other.

True enough.

Yet if a smaller club can survive in the top flight, that is their right.

However the Killie attendance does seem really poor. Weren't tegu averaging way more than that not so long ago?

[theonlywayisup]

True enough.

Yet if a smaller club can survive in the top flight, that is their right.

However the Killie attendance does seem really poor. Weren't tegu averaging way more than that not so long ago?

Yes....but is that because they are mince and near the bottom of the league or is it because it's a cold day in the winter. I say the former!!

[Alfred E Newman]

Some attendances today in our top league.

St J V Hamilton - 2,685

Partick v Dundee - 3,262

Kilmarnock v ICT - 2,937

Games postponed and/or abandoned.

Summer football or re-introduce winter shutdown maybe?
You missed Hearts 16000. These other games would have attracted more or less the same attendance no matter the weather.

[theonlywayisup]

You missed Hearts 16000. These other games would have attracted more or less the same attendance no matter the weather.

:agree: in fact for 2 out of those 3 games the attendance is higher today (circa 1 degree Celsius) than when they last met on the 12th September when the temperature was, wait for it 16 degrees.

The only game that had a lower attendance by around 300 was Killie's game, a team that are rubbish to watch. Evidence, if ever there was, that weather has no bearing at all on attendances.

[greenlex]

They would still have got those attendances in the summer/spring/autumn.

I would argue it would be less as football competes with the Summer Sports and pursuits.

[Killiehibbie]

Yes....but is that because they are mince and near the bottom of the league or is it because it's a cold day in the winter. I say the former!!1500 or so regular Killie fans disappeared in the last 2 or 3 years, mostly because they're fed up watching poor football.

[Greencore]

1500 or so regular Killie fans disappeared in the last 2 or 3 years, mostly because they're fed up watching poor football.

Also the chairman Michael Johnston.

[Zazu62]

So what's the latest on tomorrow's game then

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

So what's the latest on tomorrow's game then

Face-off at 1500.

[erin go bragh]

Seen a picture of their pitch on FB , looks no more than an inch of snow , which was getting cleared . No more snow forecast . If that's correct I'd guess the game will go ahead .
Disclaimer ( I'm no Michael Fish tho :)

GGTTH

[Alex Trager]

If it is to be called off it has to happen at around 10.00 tomorrow IMO.
Give people plenty notice.

None of the Morton debacle again

[Zazu62]

Face-off at 1500.

Yaay.. Cmon the Greens

[FromTheCapital]

They're doing a grand job down there so far.
This one will go ahead imo.


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[Carheenlea]

Looking a bit more promising now.

I was going to volunteer my services first thing tomorrow too, but looks like I won`t be needed.. :fibber:

15898

[lord bunberry]

What's the point in having an all weather pitch if you get a game called off after a light dusting of snow? I think people are worrying unnecessarily

[monktonharp]

If it is to be called off it has to happen at around 10.00 tomorrow IMO.
Give people plenty notice.

None of the Morton debacle again:agree: someone told me today that the St.Mirren game was called off at 2:50pm. that canny be right, is it?

[BoomtownHibees]

:agree: someone told me today that the St.Mirren game was called off at 2:50pm. that canny be right, is it?

Wrong. 2.55pm is closer to the truth

[Falkirk Bairn]

Groundstaff and volunteers (30+) are doing a great job at the stadium tonight. Don't see any issues with the pitch assuming no more snow.

[Ronniekirk]

:agree: someone told me today that the St.Mirren game was called off at 2:50pm. that canny be right, is it?

Disgrace lots of my neighbours fuming .it was certainly round about that time after two inspections had said it could go on but snow kept falling and in the end I can confirm it was the right decision I couldn't even see the ball in my back garden




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[Hibby Bairn]

If it is to be called off it has to happen at around 10.00 tomorrow IMO.
Give people plenty notice.

None of the Morton debacle again

You don't need 5 hours notice to get to Falkirk surely?

[oconnors_strip]

Snow forecasted tomorrow in day time, about 8cm I've read on metcheck

[Alex Trager]

You don't need 5 hours notice to get to Falkirk surely?

No I don't personally.

[Falkirk Bairn]

Snow forecasted tomorrow in day time, about 8cm I've read on metcheck

Not according to met office app

[Deek01]

Snow is now back on in Falkirk

[Stuarty27]

Ive just checked weather forecast on three different sites and all saying no more snow so I reckon the game will defo be on.

Not sure why folk on here are so negative, like they want the game to be off!

[Frazerbob]

Mate if mine is pals with the guy that does the PA at Falkirk. According to him they expect the game to be fine. Pitch has been cleared tonight and they have plans in place for the carparks etc in the morning.

[Hibeesmad]

Hail or snow or thunderstorms I'd go Hi-Bee Hibernian

[monktonharp]

You don't need 5 hours notice to get to Falkirk surely?all depends on where your coming from.:wink: but, having had a similar debate/argument before, I would point out that some people travel on supporters buses , get picked up at various points and bus organisers need a good leeway to allow for all situations, apart from the fact that some like to have a few drinks and make a day of it. you might walk into to your driveway, start the car and you're off. not everyone has that, or wants that. however, buses ordered, need to be paid. despite late posponments and supporters branches can be left out of pocket even with cancellations and not travelling. at what point would you consider being a reasonable point to postpone a match? let's say you stayed in West Edinburgh, about 30mins by car to Falkirk?:confused:

[monktonharp]

Disgrace lots of my neighbours fuming .it was certainly round about that time after two inspections had said it could go on but snow kept falling and in the end I can confirm it was the right decision I couldn't even see the ball in my back garden




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[YehButNoBut]

Falkirk Football Club (https://www.facebook.com/falkirkfootballclub/?fref=photo)

Getting there folks! Really has been an outstanding effort so far tonight #COYB (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/coyb)


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[hibeesjoe]

Why don't these artificial pitches have massive roll on, roll off tarpaulins fitted too them. Must be a cheapish investment comsidering how much they can lose financially

[Hibby Bairn]

all depends on where your coming from.:wink: but, having had a similar debate/argument before, I would point out that some people travel on supporters buses , get picked up at various points and bus organisers need a good leeway to allow for all situations, apart from the fact that some like to have a few drinks and make a day of it. you might walk into to your driveway, start the car and you're off. not everyone has that, or wants that. however, buses ordered, need to be paid. despite late posponments and supporters branches can be left out of pocket even with cancellations and not travelling. at what point would you consider being a reasonable point to postpone a match? let's say you stayed in West Edinburgh, about 30mins by car to Falkirk?:confused:

Fair dos.

[weststandhibby]

Just drove past the stadium, roads are all clear and car park doesn't look bad. Snow off but temp has dropped below freezing. Game will go ahead no problem. GGTTH

[Lago]

My Son in Law travellrd to Blackburn juniors for todays game, which went aheah on a artificial pitch, the point he made to me tonight was that althought the snow had been cleared the pitch frozen and it was like playing on concrete. He thought it dangerous if some one had fallen on it.

[jimmythefish]

You don't need 5 hours notice to get to Falkirk surely?
I do

[dp00]

You have to give Falkirk credit for there efforts to get the game played... Some other teams could learn a thing or two


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[Hibeewilly]

Just phoned Falkirk and its GAME ON - its not in any danger at all. GGTTH

[Hermit Crab]

Just phoned Falkirk and its GAME ON - its not in any danger at all. GGTTH

Baws. Could be doing with staying in ma bed.....

[linlithgowhibbie]

Falkirk Twitter shows photos of clear pitch and access roads, looks like game on:gwa:

[JimBHibees]

Falkirk Twitter shows photos of clear pitch and access roads, looks like game on:gwa:

Yep looks like volunteers have cleared the area well done to them.

Forecast is cold but dry.

[Allant1981]

Its actually quite a nice morning through here, cold though

[monktonharp]

I just phoned Falkirk fc, pitch inspection already done and the game is on.

[IanM]

Falkirk Twitter

MATCH ON! This would not have been possible without the phenomenal support of our fans who worked tirelessly to clear the pitch. THANK YOU!

[Keith_M]

Falkirk Twitter

MATCH ON! This would not have been possible without the phenomenal support of our fans who worked tirelessly to clear the pitch. THANK YOU!


What a nice bunch of Bairns!


:greengrin

[Hibby Bairn]

Well done to all the volunteers. Now let's make sure they wished they hadn't bothered come 5pm.

[dp00]

Is the game on TV or is there another reason the game is today instead of yesterday ?


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[SteveHFC]

is the game on tv or is there another reason the game is today instead of yesterday ?


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bt 1

[dp00]

bt 1

Booo, liked BT sports last season but prices this season are really expensive


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[Green Man]

Looks like a great effort from Falkirk and the volunteers to get the game to go ahead. Well done all.

[Mikey09]

Am I the only one a wee bit worried about the surface?! When you clear snow off a 3G pitch you also remove a lot of the rubber crumb which helps with grip and the bounce of the ball. The rubber crumb is there for a reason and removing a lot of it is surely gonna make it worse?!

[lucky]

Am I the only one a wee bit worried about the surface?! When you clear snow off a 3G pitch you also remove a lot of the rubber crumb which helps with grip and the bounce of the ball. The rubber crumb is there for a reason and removing a lot of it is surely gonna make it worse?!

There should only be grass pitches in professional football. These artificial pitches give the home sides an advantage

[West hamBERNIAN]

Didn't think they used the dreaded rubber on the modern pitches. Watching the county vs Aberdeen game just now and it's really scrappy so I don't think real grass will make the difference. Both teams have the same conditions.

[emerald green]

They would still have got those attendances in the summer/spring/autumn.

Do you have a crystal ball?


Last time St J played Hamilton at home on 12th September 2015, the attendance was................ 2,648. Maybe that's all they will get irrespective of when they play each other.

Maybes aye, maybes naw.


Let me see, the last time that Partick played Dundee on the 12th September, the attendance was...........wait for it, 2,946.

All this rubbish about attendances will be higher in the 'summer' time is total guff.

So you're not in favour then? :greengrin I dont know for certain whether attendances would be higher or lower if matches were played, generally, in better weather.

My post was just drawing attention to the size of some attendances, which are not good by any stretch of the imagination. Just because that's what they were before is no reason not to consider alternative options for trying to get more people to attend matches, is it?

Anyway, the size of attendances is not the only factor that needs to be considered. For example, it's the state of playing surfaces and whether they are dangerous for players, whether or not they are condusive to playing good football. The approaches to stadia is often a factor too. Ask supporters who wasted time and money travelling through to Greenock recently.


You missed Hearts 16000. These other games would have attracted more or less the same attendance no matter the weather.

I deliberately didn't mention the attendance at Tynecastle because, whether we like it or not, their attendances at the moment seem to me to be the exception rather than the rule (they haven't always been). I wish Hibs could get over 16,000 at ER for a game against Motherwell on a freezing winter afternoon. Sorry, I don't like saying it, but there you go.


:agree: in fact for 2 out of those 3 games the attendance is higher today (circa 1 degree Celsius) than when they last met on the 12th September when the temperature was, wait for it 16 degrees.

The only game that had a lower attendance by around 300 was Killie's game, a team that are rubbish to watch. Evidence, if ever there was, that weather has no bearing at all on attendances.

I think to say the weather has "no bearing at all" on attendances isn't quite 100% accurate. Just IMHO though.